@@alexgonzalezMI For horrendous prices though. You can get two usable mini PCs with 16GB of RAM for the price of an extra 8GB of RAM at Apple. (You didnt claim that it were overpriced but I believe that is the point hugolol was trying to make).
There will be a 32gb option for another $500 and a 1tb SSD option for another $500 and a stand for the desktop monitor for ..... $500 and a cleaning cloth for $99.99
@@Corteum It's an i4790k with whatever the fastest RAM of the time was (and probably still is I think... DDR3). It had a 512GB m2 which I swapped to a 1TB Samsung EVO 970 and the GPU is now a 3060 Ti because of my work I really wanted 3 x 4k monitors without hassle. I honestly do not know when I'll swap this machine out. Windows 11 / GTAV (pretty much the only modern game I play) / software dev it's totally smooth.
I have to say that I have seldom run out of Ram on my M1 with 16GB. I’m not seeing any problem with 16GB being a base spec at this point. Memory pressure is low all the time with all kinds of apps and tabs running. It tends to max out when I do an LLM query with a 7B model, and then goes right back to normal. 16GB will not handle a 70B model however, so for that a Ram upgrade would be advisable. But yea 16GB base will handle just about anything most people will do.
That Mac mini's design is pure unobstructed perfection. I feel as though any other design would be a step backward. So i'm not surprised they've kept it so long, and will likely iterate on the design rather than change it completely.
To be fair it does show how timeless the Mac Mini design is, probably because its a lot more practical than the trash can Mac. On the outside it looks mostly the same, but internally its literally as different as it could possibly be.
Its a box with rounded corners. I guess that makes it timeliness but not very impressive. IBM XT was a rectangular box and PCs of today still are, but also isn't impressive.
@@username7763 I mean in terms of complexity, its simultaniously not very impressive but also impressive that its so minimalist-looking and small, yet completely functional. The early IBM PCs also had many design decisions that have stuck around, like the keyboard layout, while the monitor included was a lot better than a lot of others at the time. I wouldn’t call it timeless, because the overall design like having the monitor stand on a horizontal case didn’t last long (the AT did however make horizontal cases more standard).
"Copilot's copilot" is a great title for Sam. Reminds me of an old Martin Mull line from Fernwood Tonight said to Fred Willard "...you're the second banana's second banana." Yea that's a Fernwood Tonight reference for you kids. God my back hurts.
Nice, so people will have to pay more for the increased RAM in the base version and get a thunderbolt dock just like they do for their macbooks just in order to get basic I/O connectivity. Truly visionary. The only thing missing now is Siri Copilot.
There are already mini pcs in the market with upgradable ram and storage and good performance. Considering the limitations of MacOS Apple really needs to price them right this time.
I was just reminded yesterday why I'll never go back to Apple. Back in 2006 I had a Mac. Migrated off it 3 years later and just now found that I was missing one photo collection. I have a few backups from that time. Popped the disk into my Linux system. Whatever sparsefile they are using can't be opened in Linux. So I fired up a VM with Windows and had to download a 3rd party tool just to open the archive. Joy. Proprietary backups. Instead of just using something like tar to compact the file or a standard img format or a number of other standard options. Apple = Never again.
That is one of the issues I have with Apple. The compatibility of Apple stuff with anything else that is not Apple stuff is non-existent. Once you buy one Apple thing, you basically have to buy everything else from Apple, else your lone Apple device will not communicate with anything. And I really like the freedom of choice.
16 GB? only now? The current base amount for a Windows PC to function correctly is already 32GB and the possibility is already raised that 64GB is the most comfortable amount for a Windows PC and Apple's base is only 16GB? I'm not even surprised the CPU is the only technology that Apple can be proud of, the rest is a shame, a 5 year delay in many technologies compared to Windows and Android
32 is absolutely not the base required for minimum on Windows. 8 for general web browsing, 16 for light gaming, 32 for hardcore gaming, 64+ for specialized workloads
@@DunktLOL yes 8GB is the minimum but with 8GB you can't do almost anything in Windows these days, it's almost the same thing as saying that it may not be in the specifications but 16GB is already the unofficial Windows minimum to work correctly, With 16GB I can barely play CS Go, nowadays, at least in the people I see, a PC is used for everything and anything, what I was trying to say is that 32GB is the minimum to do things in general without worrying about ram, and ram are very cheap now, I can't imagine anyone putting less than 32GB in a new PC for an average user
@@Bluestarferies I don't doubt it, but consuming 16GB is easier than it seems, furthermore considering that RAM starts to lose performance after 70%, you only have 11GB to use without losing performance, 32GB is more for using Windows comfortably, after some windows updates the ram consumption skyrocketed easily, I don't know what they added to the update but the RAM consumption increased a lot, I at least put the 32GB right away because after these updates the ram consumption increased a lot, I formatted the PC at the time but Not much has changed, Windows has received a lot of useless stuff lately that just wastes RAM, Windows is a RAM-eating machine
@@nebuloso6527 I have a 16gb m1 MacBook Air and I mostly do audio production. I never swap and never exceed 12gb of ram usage and a lot of it is cache. Also doing office work on it.
Man, I can't wait for the new Mac Minis announcement. My current 2012 MacMini is on its last. Tried to focus stack two Jpeg photos and... heart attack.
@@scod3908 "surface" is not a serious laptop, it's a glorified tablet. I have 32gb ram on my windows laptop and that's considered mid-range, not even close to the high-end stuff.
16gb ram in the base model, ok. But it will keep the same price? I strongly doubt it. Most likely it will start at 2000e, at least in Europe, instead of the actual 1600e.
Kinda curious, what is the point of this PC, especially with no USB-a ports? You can bring it everywhere, but can't use a solid chunk of devices without an adapter? 🤔
This one's a bit all over the place and a bit too technical for most people. The real question is why Apple can get away with putting a mobile CPU in ... something released as a computer. The technical answer is that ARM is blurring the lines of mobile vs low-end desktop CPUs, and the software is tuned and optimized. For the handful of 5 apps Apple computer users use. If you want to use other demanding software, you need a real computer. They just made sure none of their users can install other demanding software. Yes, 'Store.
There’s something called speedstep and throttling. You should put a desktop class chip on a computer because it can turn off cores when the apps don’t demand much horsepower because their instruction set executing on the chip is simplistic and optimized for that chipset. But when you have need for complex and long instruction sets waiting in the pipeline it can process them in a jiffy(actual unit on kernel schedulers for time). Without that some apps will feel sluggish and slow even on a new computer and people will avoid that computer. Apple shouldn’t put mobile cpus to save money but continue to charge us more
I swear the "That's just incredible" bit never gets old. 🤣
WHAT AN... AMAAAAAZING MOMENNNNN
me too 😂
@@lad4694 The "██████"
Chips of tomorrow
Ram of yesterday
What a quote
Poetry in motion
One step forward, One step back . Am I right?
@@bojidarvladev4890 damn
why is 16 gigs considered 'yesterday' in 2024, did software updates get more advanced ❔❔
@@SeniorHeel bro for computer most of the have 32 GB even some mini PC do
"CHIPS OF TOMORROW.....
RAM OF YESTERDAY"
- Sam 2024
He shoud put that on a mug.
JerryRigEverything "technology of yesterday for tomorrow's price"
1 step forward, possibly 3 ports behind
1 step forwards, 1 step behind, and another three ports behind
1 step forward and 16 Gb behind
"we are feeling both micro, and soft"🤣🤣🤣
How does he think of this stuff? I’ve heard of Microsoft for 30 year and never thought of that one.😂
@@martinjackson909well he works at Microsoft 😏
@@angelite143he works at every tech company in existence.
@@mr.perfect6300 Even ones in the future! lol
@@angelite143 he probably had a micro soft as well
WOW finally 16 GB of ram
Base RAM. You could always get more than that.
@@alexgonzalezMIalways? Only while ordering 😂
@@alexgonzalezMI For horrendous prices though. You can get two usable mini PCs with 16GB of RAM for the price of an extra 8GB of RAM at Apple. (You didnt claim that it were overpriced but I believe that is the point hugolol was trying to make).
Invented by apple!!
@@tedzards509 Mexican Cartels are rich though
“Apple pencil fucking Ipad Before” 😂
There will be a 32gb option for another $500 and a 1tb SSD option for another $500 and a stand for the desktop monitor for ..... $500 and a cleaning cloth for $99.99
Just $500 for the stand?
@@scientificidiot4165what a steal right 😂
O M stevey, this cheap!!!! Where do I dump my money?
And a mouse for $499.99
@@muhdiversity7409 featuring a bottom usb c port for charging (cable sold separately)
Literally the last machine I built 9 years ago had 32gb ram, and I still use that machine today
my thinkpad from 2012 has 32gb as well
What cpu/gpu combo did you put in that one?
@@Corteum It's an i4790k with whatever the fastest RAM of the time was (and probably still is I think... DDR3). It had a 512GB m2 which I swapped to a 1TB Samsung EVO 970 and the GPU is now a 3060 Ti because of my work I really wanted 3 x 4k monitors without hassle.
I honestly do not know when I'll swap this machine out. Windows 11 / GTAV (pretty much the only modern game I play) / software dev it's totally smooth.
@@thesolver1970 Nice - keep out of landfill and save your pennies, double win!
@@judewestburner That's a nice rig for 2015! even by today's standards id say
They finally give you 16GB of Ram and then waste it all on processing Ai features nobody wants 😂 How do you switch this off ?
😂😅😅😅
Go live in the EU
They need it to steal your privacy
Imma just say that there’s an actual switch in the settings menu to switch Apple intelligence off.
@@sjh199 That's not possible, the intelligence was never there in the first place.
The “what’s a compooter “ ad enrages me so much.
so, after 13 years Apple will redesign MacMini and put same amount of RAM as it was 13 years ago? *courage*
The period between the old and new "MC Mini Burger box" is representing Apples natural innovation cycle.
And when will Apple come out saying that 16Gb of RAM on a Mac is like 32Gb on a PC?
In a few years when 32GB has become the standard everywhere beside Apple devices.
@@Psychx_that'd be a couple of years
I have to say that I have seldom run out of Ram on my M1 with 16GB. I’m not seeing any problem with 16GB being a base spec at this point.
Memory pressure is low all the time with all kinds of apps and tabs running.
It tends to max out when I do an LLM query with a 7B model, and then goes right back to normal.
16GB will not handle a 70B model however, so for that a Ram upgrade would be advisable.
But yea 16GB base will handle just about anything most people will do.
This is the only "commedy" content I like, great job
Lol charging for Usb ports... What's next? Charging for a charger lol
They already doing that on phones, laptops is next courage move
I say 1 full function USB C port is enough. Dongles are cheap and I can care less about them when I know I’m using a mini pc.
It was almost THE SIZE of a TV 🤣
"Chip of tomorrow, RAM of yesterday"... perfect
2:05 ‘as powerful as an iPad’ that was hilarious 😂
“And you thought the Apple Pencil was fucking you before” 😂😂
The roast on point as usual. 😂
That Mac mini's design is pure unobstructed perfection. I feel as though any other design would be a step backward. So i'm not surprised they've kept it so long, and will likely iterate on the design rather than change it completely.
16GB memory, Apple finally reached the year 2005
yeah probably around mid to late 2000s
Nah, 2005 was 4GB in high end gaming PCs.
It's more than yesterday, I've had 16GB of ram in my main PC for over a decade. A DECADE!
Big deal. Most people use their computers for email and facebook....
Microsoft only just increased the base memory on their Macbook competitor from 8GB to 16GB a few months ago 🤣
That 16 GB will be a single ram chip- so it'll slower than the current model as well.
Absolutely NOT gonna look at the real Apple event.
It's a master-class in customer trance induction 😂
@@Corteum I had iPhones, they aren't anything special. The whole thing is just a huge ripoff.
Why take away Ethernet? 😂 The whole point of a desktop is to have more ports
because port cost $0.5 and cut into Apple margins 🤣
To be fair it does show how timeless the Mac Mini design is, probably because its a lot more practical than the trash can Mac. On the outside it looks mostly the same, but internally its literally as different as it could possibly be.
Its a box with rounded corners. I guess that makes it timeliness but not very impressive. IBM XT was a rectangular box and PCs of today still are, but also isn't impressive.
@@username7763 I mean in terms of complexity, its simultaniously not very impressive but also impressive that its so minimalist-looking and small, yet completely functional. The early IBM PCs also had many design decisions that have stuck around, like the keyboard layout, while the monitor included was a lot better than a lot of others at the time. I wouldn’t call it timeless, because the overall design like having the monitor stand on a horizontal case didn’t last long (the AT did however make horizontal cases more standard).
that last line is gold
"Copilot's copilot" is a great title for Sam. Reminds me of an old Martin Mull line from Fernwood Tonight said to Fred Willard "...you're the second banana's second banana." Yea that's a Fernwood Tonight reference for you kids. God my back hurts.
Hey You Kids! Get Off My Internet!
omg that windows 8 joke got me lol
I can't stop laughing! Great Video! Thank You
Sam makes the best video
"....make Microsoft, micro-hard...." , that was very creative and I'm astonished I never thought of it. :)
" with the chips of tomorrow, and the *RAM of yesterday* "
holy swipes that was hard af
Best goddamn tech channel on TH-cam
Apple Gets EU Warning to Open Up iPhone Operating System just like Android 🤣
Yeah I wished I didn't get the mac mini m2 pro with 16gigs.... I wished I would have gotten 32 gigs or got the base studio. Hard lesson to learn
Chips of tomorrow, Ram of yesterday * Miriam Pataki singing at the restaurant *
0:11 That's sounds so . . . Apple-ish: "I'm the Same Tucker!"
Sam never disappoints
Nice, so people will have to pay more for the increased RAM in the base version and get a thunderbolt dock just like they do for their macbooks just in order to get basic I/O connectivity. Truly visionary. The only thing missing now is Siri Copilot.
16GB of RAM...
want another extra 8GB? 200 dollars
another extra 8GB? 200 dollars
3:19 😂😂tf
0:19 I was expecting a "that's what she said" here
What’s a computer?
What’s a woman?
Why is AI spyware nobody asked for now on my device?
Apple: The Innovative Company❌ Apple: The Rebranding Company✅
He looks like the type of person that would not lie🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
When you say:"all new", I always hear:"the old nude...".
Apple must not have realized 12 gigs was an option
Should have minimum 32 given the premium price
There are already mini pcs in the market with upgradable ram and storage and good performance. Considering the limitations of MacOS Apple really needs to price them right this time.
I was just reminded yesterday why I'll never go back to Apple. Back in 2006 I had a Mac. Migrated off it 3 years later and just now found that I was missing one photo collection. I have a few backups from that time. Popped the disk into my Linux system. Whatever sparsefile they are using can't be opened in Linux. So I fired up a VM with Windows and had to download a 3rd party tool just to open the archive. Joy. Proprietary backups. Instead of just using something like tar to compact the file or a standard img format or a number of other standard options. Apple = Never again.
never used apple and never will be :D Tons of brands in the world not to stick with that sick one.
That is one of the issues I have with Apple. The compatibility of Apple stuff with anything else that is not Apple stuff is non-existent. Once you buy one Apple thing, you basically have to buy everything else from Apple, else your lone Apple device will not communicate with anything. And I really like the freedom of choice.
a few years from now, when 32gb of ram becomes the norm, people will complain that a computer is unusable with only 16gb of ram.
@@Pwnopolisimagine flexing ram amount when we all know that’s it’s dirt cheap on pc.. I bet you have ddr4 too lol
There will still be slow as molasses plastic laptops being sold in department stores with 4GB
Hasn’t it been the norm for gaming rigs already?
нет
Chip of tomorrow, RAM of yesterday, PRICE of the next decade 🤑
Wow copilots copilot? XD
16Gb of soldered RAM. I am never buying laptops or computers with soldered RAM again.
They can be a good value second hand, since the previous owner couldn't upgrade it
NEW PC will tell you off as most of them are now soldered
@@leonidas14775 I got my Macbook with M1 16GB ram 512GB for £699
Well everybody’s doing the same thing nowadays not just Apple
@@Stormlywing That's why you buy the business models, they usually come with upgradable RAM.
16 GB? only now? The current base amount for a Windows PC to function correctly is already 32GB and the possibility is already raised that 64GB is the most comfortable amount for a Windows PC and Apple's base is only 16GB? I'm not even surprised the CPU is the only technology that Apple can be proud of, the rest is a shame, a 5 year delay in many technologies compared to Windows and Android
32 is absolutely not the base required for minimum on Windows. 8 for general web browsing, 16 for light gaming, 32 for hardcore gaming, 64+ for specialized workloads
@@DunktLOL yes 8GB is the minimum but with 8GB you can't do almost anything in Windows these days, it's almost the same thing as saying that it may not be in the specifications but 16GB is already the unofficial Windows minimum to work correctly, With 16GB I can barely play CS Go, nowadays, at least in the people I see, a PC is used for everything and anything, what I was trying to say is that 32GB is the minimum to do things in general without worrying about ram, and ram are very cheap now, I can't imagine anyone putting less than 32GB in a new PC for an average user
If the base required for a pc to work properly is 32gb then something is wrong with its software.
@@Bluestarferies I don't doubt it, but consuming 16GB is easier than it seems, furthermore considering that RAM starts to lose performance after 70%, you only have 11GB to use without losing performance, 32GB is more for using Windows comfortably, after some windows updates the ram consumption skyrocketed easily, I don't know what they added to the update but the RAM consumption increased a lot, I at least put the 32GB right away because after these updates the ram consumption increased a lot, I formatted the PC at the time but Not much has changed, Windows has received a lot of useless stuff lately that just wastes RAM, Windows is a RAM-eating machine
@@nebuloso6527 I have a 16gb m1 MacBook Air and I mostly do audio production. I never swap and never exceed 12gb of ram usage and a lot of it is cache. Also doing office work on it.
Cover whole head while calling? ME bad boys cancel order.
Apple Redesigns ???🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
nvidia also subs to the ram of yesturday setup.
by the time they have 16gb in the normal models it will be too small and everything will have 32gb
Man, I can't wait for the new Mac Minis announcement. My current 2012 MacMini is on its last. Tried to focus stack two Jpeg photos and... heart attack.
I miss "Funky Time" at the end of your videos. What happened to it Sam?
Finally getting 16 GB
wow its so increadible to have 16 Gb of RAM, i like it.... (meanwhile sitting on 256 GB DDR5 windows Casual workstation)
What do you need all that ram for?
Copilot's copilot 💀
That’s not how you use the skull emoji
Good job
Dongles are fine for Mac Minis if you like the old ports
I'll never understand why anyone would like bothering with dongles.
Removing ethernet port? Well, sure, in apple, there is never to late to repel some more customers.
16gb ram in 2024 is a massive joke.
Then the joke is on Microsoft/Windows too; they only just increased the base RAM on the surface laptop from 8GB to 16GB a few months ago
@@scod3908 "surface" is not a serious laptop, it's a glorified tablet. I have 32gb ram on my windows laptop and that's considered mid-range, not even close to the high-end stuff.
Only 16GB Ram ??? Bruhh they into Sweet 16s 😂
128 GB of Ram on Apple computer.😂
Well that’s a league of own
My dell.vostro hackintosh makes the 8gb on windows feel like 12 gb on mac os though.
Where is the graphic with lines to show how faster it is compared to a pc in 2011?
WHAT??? Apple now makes computers?? I thought they were in the Watch and Phone business.
Everything will be soldered in I suppose.. no upgrades..
not to mention that massive 256 gig ssd? yeah right hehe
be crazy apple comes out with a handheld before microsoft
16gb ram in the base model, ok. But it will keep the same price? I strongly doubt it. Most likely it will start at 2000e, at least in Europe, instead of the actual 1600e.
That's good humour.
Got an ASUS ROG STRIX G17 and it floors everything about any Apple device I’ve used!
Until your battery runs out halfway thru a workday in the field
Oh I have 64 gig in my Mac Pro 2009 model
So much Ram that you can't even used in 2025 as the OS no longer can be used
Did they ever fix the CPU cache snooping issue?
Bring back to sliding keyboards
Kinda curious, what is the point of this PC, especially with no USB-a ports? You can bring it everywhere, but can't use a solid chunk of devices without an adapter? 🤔
they put 16gb of ram and remove all the other usefull features lmaoo
iNeed that 2012 iPod Nano back.
Finally MINI 7 ! 🔥
This one's a bit all over the place and a bit too technical for most people. The real question is why Apple can get away with putting a mobile CPU in ... something released as a computer. The technical answer is that ARM is blurring the lines of mobile vs low-end desktop CPUs, and the software is tuned and optimized. For the handful of 5 apps Apple computer users use. If you want to use other demanding software, you need a real computer. They just made sure none of their users can install other demanding software. Yes, 'Store.
There’s something called speedstep and throttling. You should put a desktop class chip on a computer because it can turn off cores when the apps don’t demand much horsepower because their instruction set executing on the chip is simplistic and optimized for that chipset. But when you have need for complex and long instruction sets waiting in the pipeline it can process them in a jiffy(actual unit on kernel schedulers for time). Without that some apps will feel sluggish and slow even on a new computer and people will avoid that computer.
Apple shouldn’t put mobile cpus to save money but continue to charge us more
Wouldn’t it be the opposite and be more for removing an option?
16 is not enough anymore, 32 is the new standard
Copilot's Copilot 😂
1:24 I guess no normal keyboard or mouse can connect to that Mac Mini.
Exactly, now more people can but the magic mouse
Cutting of the USB A is stupid...people have a lot of older stuff around you maybe still need the A like USB Sticks, externe Harddrives....and so on.
My pc literally had 16gb in 2011.
RAM of Yesterday 😂😅😅😅😅😅
One chin per 8 gigabytes RAM I see.
WHAT AN... AMAAAAAZING MOMENNNNN
I have 8GB of shared RAM, that is, 5.67GB of usable ram...
Apple will introduce twice the RAM at half the speed
Now that apple base products start at 16gb, it is safe to say that 16gb is not enough anymore
"16gb is unusable, i need at least 32gb of ram"