No idea why he keeps making assumptions that the victim may have also punched someone with literally zero evidence. I've wrestled for years and never once ever punched anyone nor have I seen anyone else ever do this. There was no need to put that out there with zero proof.
In years I wrestled I NEVER saw this type of thing, not at a practice, meet or tournament. The kid that threw the punch needs to be removed from the wrestling mat he does not have the sportsmanship for it. Go put him in an MMA school that seems to be more of what he is looking for.
If this kid has a "natural power," it sounds like the parents should've enrolled him in boxing instead. Maybe have him fight a bigger kid as punishment.
Why wouldn't he clock a member of the oppression class? These kids are taught this very young these days. He was only banned for a year by the company that put on the event.
This is such a bad take lol. He’s not going to be “out on the streets” lol. Chael lives in a fantasy where these kids are devoting their life to wrestling like pro athletes… if the kid has half way decent parents THEY would ban him for life, and all time previously spent wrestling would be sued on hard community work - that’ll “tire” him out chael. But if Chael really thinks he’s some kind of community athletic project, then Chael should have the kid move in with him, so he can train him, and mold him lol.
How is this kid going to learn any lesson when he isn't punished for the assault he committed against a fellow competitor? It's this coddling attitude by "coaches" like this that gives violent athletes the affirmation that what they did was not really wrong , and in fact was a good thing. They don't have to suspend him for life , but to simply let him walk away means nothing. It corrupts any social value sports may have to allow any type of behavior for the sake of winning.
Correct is talking bs. Thinking the worst instead of saying the kid will learn to control his temper after being banned from competing for a year. Nothing stopping the kid from training as most people train without competing.
Kid has a deviated septum that he will now have to deal with for the rest of his life. That being said, the lifetime ban is probably too much, but banning the whole school for a year would be a start. The coaches need a lesson at this school as well. OK, ban the wrestling team for a year of competition. They can go to the matches and compete, but the school shows a loss for the rest of the season in wrestling.
he condemned the sucker punch many times throughout the course of this video. his point is not to ban the kid from competing, bc it won’t help him learn his lesson.
@@st.thomasaquinas19 This is why the kid who did the sucker punching and many kids in todays age act the way they do... People who have a few words to say like it matters and then is happy to send the kid back too it, like nothing happened. I knew right from wrong at the kids age, i knew not too sucker someone, ESPECIALLY when they're going for a handshake after he just beat you.. Needs FAR more than a few words and a years suspension. He needs to never step another foot on a matt. I guess one thing comes out of this though.. Just teach your kid too sucker punch their next opponent if they beat you when they go for the handshake,you only get a slap on the wrists and a years break.
This is what people mean when they talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations. The yt savior has already determined the trajectory of the errant boy's life and he's here to provide him with infinite chances because heaven forbid we actually expect the parents to do their jobs.
This blame everything on the parents fad is complete non sense.. People act like kids are mindless dolts that are programmable and with enough discipline you can completely control their behavior...
Of course the young thug should be banned for life for viciously suckerpunching the guy who just beat him fair and square. Instead of shaking his hand. Pandering to violent criminals like Sonnen is with all his fine words just leads to more violent crime against innocents. And we can all see how that warped attitude has degraded our society into a violent cesspool.
Banned for life and arrested for assault. Simple. You don't keep bad apples with the rest of the barrel or you corrupt the entire barrel. You don't keep bad cops around either. He needs to be out of wrestling. There is absolutely no excuse for his behavior.
I couldn't disagree with Chael Sonnen more. This kid should be banned for life, but unfortunately, Hafid Alicea is s good wrestler with potential so his coaches will surely do their best to find a way to sweep this incident under the rug and hope that ten years from now they can be recognized for coaching a successful wrestler.
100000% agree, that should be something that follows him in life. When u start any kind of sport in fighting then there are rules that must be followed, and like the rest of us if we fight like that beside the ring it has serious precautions. as well this should have!
Someone did this to Chael in a youth tournament once after becoming the latest victim of yet another "West Linn Pin". The kid broke his hand! Gawrsh, what a GOAT of GOATs!!!!
What if: don't sucker punch anybody so you won't get a lifetime ban. There, I fixed it. Chael Sonnen has had his head shaken from too much fighting he became stupid.
@@thearianmandalorian he is a 14 year old kid . He still has alot to learn . Kids fight every day . He needs so punishment and taught sportsmanship. Or I could say what would Jesus do ??? Think about that . 🤔
Great take on this. Absolutely not my original though after watching the news on this. I have wrestled since Junior High, was Co-Captain in High School and went on to try at the Collegiate level (not for long). Wrestled a number of Free Style tourney's in the summer. This sport keeps a lot of kids out of trouble, including myself. You learn a lot of humility, as I did in the College level. These Youth need to understand that some day no matter how good you are, someone is going to wipe the mat up with you. Maybe on a different day that same opponent the sides reverse. I have experienced that as well, sweet revenge. With that said I think with a little time that young Man may understand, that the other wrestler did not do anything dirty that I could see in the video and he just had his ass handed to him. I now agree with the commentator after listening to this perspective. Keep him in the sport, maybe go back and do a real hand shake.
So chael is saying the kid should hsve another chance to knock someone elses kid out in the next wrestling match. Lifetime ban no. That kid could do boxing for a year then come back to wrestling.
Sonnen is talking out of his ass projecting about the victim here. As far as Alicea, fuck him and ban him. He can go do something else. Let him work his frustrations out... as a cashier at 7-11 or something.
If I was a judge & I had the power! He'd be the water boy! For the rest of the year! This way! He's gonna be doing something. Not loose on the streets. That may teach him. A good lesson. & after a bit of time. Like a month or 2. Or maybe next year. He can try out again. If he does! The Water Boy thing. For an unspecified amount of time. & if that unruly boy decides. Not to do that! Then it's after school detention. For an unspecified amount of time. & to read out loud. To the detention teacher. Books on one's character. & sportsmanship. & on how! To be a better person. & w reading out loud! The teacher will know! That he's reading. if he's reading out loud! That may help. Get him past. That lapse of bad judgement! & to move on to better things. Hey! When I was 41/2 maybe 5! A lil friend & I. We started a camp fire. & in doing that. We accidently! Burned a small mountain hillside. & for 1 week! Twice a day. We carried a large tin garbage can. With as much water! As we could possibly carry. Inside that garbage can. We carried that garbage can. Up the hill w water. & down again. For 1 whole week! So as I remember! & as I was told. & w that! I never burned anything! Never again! Not until! I was old enough! To know better! - True Canadian Story from The Real North! Canada! Hahahahaha. 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
Punish the EFF out of him. Just don't give him a lifetime ban. 14 year old kids need learn that "wrong" can have severe consequences. We with our adult wisdom need to punish firmly and effectively but also make sure that there is a path for redemption.
Banned for life the person who came up with that idea is mad and dumb. No parents raised their kids to do things like that ok. This kid have problems a real problem maybe is home we don't know but have to help him don't throw him out like that help him
BS that's assault.. the guy should serve two weeks in jail a $2,500 fine and community service and banned from all sports for one year..
No idea why he keeps making assumptions that the victim may have also punched someone with literally zero evidence. I've wrestled for years and never once ever punched anyone nor have I seen anyone else ever do this. There was no need to put that out there with zero proof.
No kidding, you can tell by interviews, there is No Way in Hell, the victim has ever done something like this. Strange thing for Chael to even mention
@@clinicaltranscription1190 It's because Chael always wants to play the contrarian.
In years I wrestled I NEVER saw this type of thing, not at a practice, meet or tournament.
The kid that threw the punch needs to be removed from the wrestling mat he does not have the sportsmanship for it.
Go put him in an MMA school that seems to be more of what he is looking for.
If this kid has a "natural power," it sounds like the parents should've enrolled him in boxing instead. Maybe have him fight a bigger kid as punishment.
After he serves his time in prison.
That kid had his head knocked back, if u r not a boxer u don't know to take a punch, so it can dangerous, especially a suck punch
Man this guy is on something.
Why wouldn't he clock a member of the oppression class? These kids are taught this very young these days. He was only banned for a year by the company that put on the event.
You must’ve been the kind of kid to hit ppl after you lost lol
This is such a bad take lol. He’s not going to be “out on the streets” lol. Chael lives in a fantasy where these kids are devoting their life to wrestling like pro athletes… if the kid has half way decent parents THEY would ban him for life, and all time previously spent wrestling would be sued on hard community work - that’ll “tire” him out chael. But if Chael really thinks he’s some kind of community athletic project, then Chael should have the kid move in with him, so he can train him, and mold him lol.
Why is he yelling?
How is this kid going to learn any lesson when he isn't punished for the assault he committed against a fellow competitor? It's this coddling attitude by "coaches" like this that gives violent athletes the affirmation that what they did was not really wrong , and in fact was a good thing. They don't have to suspend him for life , but to simply let him walk away means nothing. It corrupts any social value sports may have to allow any type of behavior for the sake of winning.
Correct is talking bs. Thinking the worst instead of saying the kid will learn to control his temper after being banned from competing for a year. Nothing stopping the kid from training as most people train without competing.
Kid has a deviated septum that he will now have to deal with for the rest of his life. That being said, the lifetime ban is probably too much, but banning the whole school for a year would be a start. The coaches need a lesson at this school as well. OK, ban the wrestling team for a year of competition. They can go to the matches and compete, but the school shows a loss for the rest of the season in wrestling.
Would you look at that.... An advocate for wrestling sticking up for the Sucker puncher. Man what has this world come too lol
he condemned the sucker punch many times throughout the course of this video. his point is not to ban the kid from competing, bc it won’t help him learn his lesson.
@@st.thomasaquinas19 This is why the kid who did the sucker punching and many kids in todays age act the way they do... People who have a few words to say like it matters and then is happy to send the kid back too it, like nothing happened.
I knew right from wrong at the kids age, i knew not too sucker someone, ESPECIALLY when they're going for a handshake after he just beat you.. Needs FAR more than a few words and a years suspension. He needs to never step another foot on a matt.
I guess one thing comes out of this though.. Just teach your kid too sucker punch their next opponent if they beat you when they go for the handshake,you only get a slap on the wrists and a years break.
@@WunnSEN the kid should be suspended, not banned. In my humble opinion.
This is what people mean when they talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations. The yt savior has already determined the trajectory of the errant boy's life and he's here to provide him with infinite chances because heaven forbid we actually expect the parents to do their jobs.
This blame everything on the parents fad is complete non sense.. People act like kids are mindless dolts that are programmable and with enough discipline you can completely control their behavior...
Of course the young thug should be banned for life for viciously suckerpunching the guy who just beat him fair and square. Instead of shaking his hand. Pandering to violent criminals like Sonnen is with all his fine words just leads to more violent crime against innocents. And we can all see how that warped attitude has degraded our society into a violent cesspool.
Maybe not life. A few years, apology etc. It depends on the damage to the victim.
Today a fist. Tomorrow a GUN!
Banned for life and arrested for assault. Simple. You don't keep bad apples with the rest of the barrel or you corrupt the entire barrel. You don't keep bad cops around either. He needs to be out of wrestling. There is absolutely no excuse for his behavior.
Let Alvin Bragg deal with him and give them both a participation trophy
bad guy with a lot of charm, does a lot of harm, and has the biggest arms😫
scumbags cheap shot when u shake hands = fact.
I couldn't disagree with Chael Sonnen more. This kid should be banned for life, but unfortunately, Hafid Alicea is s good wrestler with potential so his coaches will surely do their best to find a way to sweep this incident under the rug and hope that ten years from now they can be recognized for coaching a successful wrestler.
100000% agree, that should be something that follows him in life. When u start any kind of sport in fighting then there are rules that must be followed, and like the rest of us if we fight like that beside the ring it has serious precautions. as well this should have!
Someone did this to Chael in a youth tournament once after becoming the latest victim of yet another "West Linn Pin". The kid broke his hand! Gawrsh, what a GOAT of GOATs!!!!
Chael, I usually love your takes, but this is straight dog water....
Suspend the kid from the sport for a year or more and move on.
Should be banned for at least a year or more for his actions.
Of course a bad guy supports another bad guy.
The undefeated undisputed chael has spoken, speak when spoken to
@@starzz7221 Your mum is calling... It's past your bed time.
@@WunnSEN only chael can decides when he has to sleep
A washed up cheater defending a cheat...imagine that
i think you mean *undefeated and undisputed
He loves to be held until it's accountable.
Ban that guy for LIFE!
ABSOLUTELY A LIFETIME BAN FOR THE PUNK. NO EXCUSES. IN FACT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE PUNK IMPRISONED.
Protect yourself at all times. Don't shake hands. Use your left fist to bump fist and use the right up high and be ready.
I'm assuming you live somewhere I would never want to go 😅
Why you so adamant of putting possible blame on the victim❓
Woke idiocy
If that kid was from the majority, he'd 100% be banned for life, in addition to having himself and his parents all canceled for being a supreme.
DAMN RIGHT!
Plain n simple kid should be banned for life
What if: don't sucker punch anybody so you won't get a lifetime ban. There, I fixed it. Chael Sonnen has had his head shaken from too much fighting he became stupid.
The kid that was hit said that the 1 year suspension the other kid got seems fair.
He shouldn't be banned for life but punishment should be done .
yes he should!
6 of the best.
@@thearianmandalorian he is a 14 year old kid . He still has alot to learn . Kids fight every day . He needs so punishment and taught sportsmanship. Or I could say what would Jesus do ??? Think about that . 🤔
Yes he was caught on tape. Yes, he should have his ass kicked, brutally.
Great take on this. Absolutely not my original though after watching the news on this. I have wrestled since Junior High, was Co-Captain in High School and went on to try at the Collegiate level (not for long). Wrestled a number of Free Style tourney's in the summer. This sport keeps a lot of kids out of trouble, including myself. You learn a lot of humility, as I did in the College level. These Youth need to understand that some day no matter how good you are, someone is going to wipe the mat up with you. Maybe on a different day that same opponent the sides reverse. I have experienced that as well, sweet revenge. With that said I think with a little time that young Man may understand, that the other wrestler did not do anything dirty that I could see in the video and he just had his ass handed to him. I now agree with the commentator after listening to this perspective. Keep him in the sport, maybe go back and do a real hand shake.
nah, he's still an idiot for defending this shit.
Banned.
That kid should be banned from wrestling if he wants to hit people he needs to go into boxing so he can feel what it feels like to be hit!!
I bet that kid is being sucker punched by his dad .
The next crime he commits remember all of you that don't think he needs a harsh punishment for this. Society today is too fuking soft.
Chanel he should be banned. What happens when he does it a second time. You need to talk a little slower. WOW! They are pressing charges against him.
So chael is saying the kid should hsve another chance to knock someone elses kid out in the next wrestling match. Lifetime ban no. That kid could do boxing for a year then come back to wrestling.
Sonnen is talking out of his ass projecting about the victim here.
As far as Alicea, fuck him and ban him. He can go do something else. Let him work his frustrations out... as a cashier at 7-11 or something.
Hehehe it's the kid who got punched in the faces fault. Everyone's almost always recording anywhere.
If I was a judge & I had the power! He'd be the water boy! For the rest of the year! This way! He's gonna be doing something. Not loose on the streets. That may teach him. A good lesson. & after a bit of time. Like a month or 2. Or maybe next year. He can try out again. If he does! The Water Boy thing. For an unspecified amount of time. & if that unruly boy decides. Not to do that! Then it's after school detention. For an unspecified amount of time. & to read out loud. To the detention teacher. Books on one's character. & sportsmanship. & on how! To be a better person. & w reading out loud! The teacher will know! That he's reading. if he's reading out loud! That may help. Get him past. That lapse of bad judgement! & to move on to better things. Hey! When I was 41/2 maybe 5! A lil friend & I. We started a camp fire. & in doing that. We accidently! Burned a small mountain hillside. & for 1 week! Twice a day. We carried a large tin garbage can. With as much water! As we could possibly carry. Inside that garbage can. We carried that garbage can. Up the hill w water. & down again. For 1 whole week! So as I remember! & as I was told. & w that! I never burned anything! Never again! Not until! I was old enough! To know better! - True Canadian Story from The Real North! Canada! Hahahahaha. 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
1 too many hits to the head there Chael?
Punish the EFF out of him. Just don't give him a lifetime ban. 14 year old kids need learn that "wrong" can have severe consequences. We with our adult wisdom need to punish firmly and effectively but also make sure that there is a path for redemption.
Maybe Maybe Maybe?
Who's this guy 😳
Sand wrestlers. What can we do? We made the mistake by letting them in the country in the first place.
2 year ban would be enough
Banned for life the person who came up with that idea is mad and dumb. No parents raised their kids to do things like that ok. This kid have problems a real problem maybe is home we don't know but have to help him don't throw him out like that help him
Ban the Ah for life and get the police to sort him