It’s absolutely insane they just happened to find the seal from the Han dynasty given how much is lost to history. This also symbolizes the idea that at least there was some decent trade between Japan and China.
Another form of media relating to Himiko is a rather rare movie by director Shinoda Masahiro (篠田 正浩). The movie is called Himiko (卑弥呼) and it is very beautiful but extremely strange and unsettling ! It will put you like in a trance. Knowing not much about the Yayoi period going in, it was a very peculiar experience to say the least (watched it with japanese subtitles to assure myself fatal death...) Another amazing movie by this director taking roots in japanese folklore is 1979's Demon Pond (夜叉ヶ池). Maybe my favorite japanese movie, with an emphasis on the spirit world and mythology. Both are very theatrical.
Man, these look like some seriously deep cuts. It's unfortunate they're not on Netflix, as that's my go-to streaming service, but it looks like they are available on Amazon Prime, so I'll keep them on the short list!
I just found ur channel randomly and you definitely are making progress with your videos. I'm only 2 videos in, but the second video is drastically better than the first (although I really enjoyed the history in the 1st one). I like that you take criticism(constructive or not) and learn from it. It really shows that you're a true creator trying to not only teach others but yourself. Keep up the great work, man! U got a new subscriber!
Thank you, I really appreciate that! I'm still a relative newbie when it comes to making videos, so I just have to assume there are a lot of things I'm doing that are sub-par, and plus I know that my viewers always bring a fresh set of eyes and ears to notice a lot of things that I don't (compliment sandwiches are always appreciated though haha). For me, the most important thing is that I'm delivering good, interesting information -- the technical stuff will come along with time and experience. Anyway, thanks very much for the subscription! Honored to have you on board!
i'm super late to the video, but i have to seriously thank you for the detailed captions including pronunciations🙏🏼 i know how long it can take to write those out, but i'm hard of hearing and it means so much to find a video series covering my main interest with excellent captions
Hi there! Just found your channel and I’m really enjoying it so far (my undergrad students are, too!). One additional point: The 騎馬民族説 (Horse Rider Theory) gained some traction in Japan before the turn of the millennium and some academics in Japan still use it to explain the sudden explosion of metalworks and weapons etc in Japan at this time. It’s an interesting idea, if nothing else. Looking forward to the rest of the series!
I literally just came across that yesterday while browsing through a book on the history of Korea! It wasn't mentioned in any of the textbooks or pseudo-textbooks I have, but then again they seem to like to keep things rather vague and noncommittal. I would love to dive into some more academic material eventually to check out the various academic theories on all the riddles of these ancient periods. I hope you and your students enjoy the rest of the series! (And I hope you will guide them around all the little mistakes that I inevitably make!😅)
had to look up TUMULUS: A tumulus (pl.: tumuli) is a mound of earth and stones raised over a grave or graves. Tumuli are also known as barrows, burial mounds
Thank you for putting this together. It was an interesting overview, with really illustrative pictures. I'm intrigued by the thatched roofs. They existed on western european houses in a similar time period as well, (although not at the same time, I think). Always neat to find similar thinking in completely different parts of the world.
The warring states period and the Han dynasty's conquests' of the Korean peninsula would have created a lot of proto Chinese and proto Korean refugees all looking for a new place to live. There was really no peace in that region from about 475BCE to 668 CE when Tang China their ally Silla (a Korean kingdom) defeated all their rivals and were the only two kingdoms left standing in north east Asia.
Wow, I have never seen any video that would be at least as good as yours. Thank you for sharing this knowledge with us! ありがとうございます！💜 It's really helpful when having an exam about it.
Chronology of Himiko: 108 AD - Hinotori Appears and “For some seventy or eighty years after that there were disturbances and warfare.” It will be 72 years exactly. 180 AD - Himiko Assumes the Throne. 246 AD - After 66 years of ruling. Hinotori Appears and Darkens the Sun. The people revolt against Himiko. She would ask for help from China, but it would be too late. 247 AD - Himiko Dies. After her Reign - This account is likely the basis for the Legend of Amaterasu. The story of JIMMU occurs after Himiko. Osamu Tezuka had an accurate Real-World Chronology of the appearances of Hinotori. That work you cite from him is more of a documentary than entertainment. That appearance of Hinotori in 246 AD must have left a lasting memory in the minds of the Japanese. So much so that they fabricated a fictional narrative that begins with JIMMU going back to the year 721 bc. 721 BC was yet another appearance of Hinotori (one cycle of 60 before JIMMU’s enthronement), recorded by Babylonia, but its effects felt everywhere. Excellent video btw.
Do archeologists search in the sea around japan for structures or artifacts since they believe there use to be land bridges? That allowed ppl to migrate?
I’ve gotta imagine that would be a challenge given how much the currents would have moved stuff around over the centuries, but… I honestly don’t know for sure! If anyone has any info, please chime in!
Hey bro!! I had heard of that in 1000BC Korean people came to japan and in 300Bc that’s when Han Chinese migrated to the Japan in somewhere in southern japan
I feel like I’ve heard something like this before as well but I’d need to do some further research to offer my take on it. The sources I used for this video painted everything in pretty broad strokes. The recent trend of placing the start of the Yayoi period in the 10th century BC definitely backs up the idea of 1000~900 BC Korean immigration though.
Japonic language is unique and has no close relatives (except maybe Koreanic but that's still controversial), whereas Sinitic is part of the Sino-Tibetan family. The two aren't related.
Koreans definitely did, and it is thought that some Chinese came as well. Koreans are mostly the ones talked about it in my sources, but they all make offhand mentions to some Chinese having been mixed in too. There's actually a 1990 paper by a guy named Wang Xiang-ron called "The Chinese Who Came to Japan in the Yayoi Period" which makes the case for there having been a lot of Chinese immigrants, but I don't know what the scholarly consensus is on his theory.
@Aspelta Interesting. This definitely makes me want to read deeper into the subject. Honestly, I would almost prefer them to have the same ancestors, as it might provide a bridge to more friendly relations in the future… but if the science says they don’t, then I’m not going to argue 🤷♂️
Malaysian Chinese here, I'm come from Goh family (吴/呉), according to study to my ancestry research. After the fall of Kingdom of Wu (吴) located in Shanghai (上海) today. The refugees has flee to Japan that can be traced one of the earliest record of Yayoi Immigration in Japan. The Imperial Yamato family was descendents of Wu. Come and give me your opinion please?. 🙏🙏
Genetics has largely debunked this hypothesis. According to the latest genetic tests on Yayoi remains (Cooke et al. 2021), the Yayoi were a mixture of indigenous Jomon with incoming Amur people from West Liao river or the Amur river in Manchuria, neither of which had anything to do with the Yangtse Delta or anywhere else in Central and Southern China.
Some argue that Japanese O1b2 y-dna haplogroup proves thay are Korean origin.. but think about it. Y-dna only comes from paternal lineage.. Since Han Chinese conquered and sinicized the Yangtze river civilization and married the women, no modern Yangtzean Chinese would still carry their original y-DNA, their y-DNA became O3, Han y-DNA because their great grandfather's were Han who moved from the North. Those Yangtzean refugees who escaped brought the original Yangtzean O1b2 y-DNA to southern Korean peninsula, and ultimately Japan..
O1b2 has never been detected in any ancient DNA sample from South China or SE Asia (geneticists already tested dozens of them in different locations from different time periods), and the upstream clade of Japonic O1b2-47z, namely O1b2-CTS713, can be found in Manchuria at low frequencies. It's much much more likely that O1b2 ultimately came from somewhere in Manchuria or the Korean peninsula.
Yayoi origins are ultimately the Yangtze river delta. If, as Koreans claim, that Japanese rice farmers migrated through Liaodong and Korean peninsula, then why does DNA of Korean rice not match Japanese rice? Did rice suddenly mutate upon arrival in Kyushu to match exactly the same as southern China? The reality is that the Mumun culture were probably from Yangtze (how they got there is unknown) and became absorbed by Koreans migrating south from Manchuria, some fled to Wa Japan. The conjecture of Yangtzean civilization being Austronesian is also questionable.. where's the proof? This is like saying Finland is a slavic tribe.. Far eastern China was far enough from Austroasiatic and Tai Kradai that a new culture already emerged. The identical tattooing, teeth blackening, teeth pulling, rice paddy, and similar phonology of Japanese and Wu/Yangtzean language cannot just be a coincidence..
@antibrandon2690 Thanks bro, really. It shows that you have been following the latest researches in genetics and archaeology as well as linguistics. I'm really tired of seeing all these trolls spamming every video related to Japanese or East Asian history with their "Yayoi originated from South China" nonsense.
Even if Yayoi people didn't come from southern china, yayoi culture was at least taken from eastern china. All the evidence suggests that the yayoi and jiangnan cultures were in direct contact, despite being distinct groups of people
This is indeed one theory... of many. There is no universal scholarly consensus on exactly what meaning was intended to be conveyed by the 倭 character. Some of the others suggest that it meant "obedient" or "docile," or even that it referred to a custom of the Yayoi era Japanese having face tattoos (!). One interesting argument I've seen AGAINST it being a pejorative is that the kanji that the Cao Wei used to refer to themselves, 魏, also includes the 委 component in it, so... were they insulting themselves too? Anyway, it's an interesting debate.
@@BuyuudenJapaneseHistory I disagree with the assertion that it wasn’t a pejorative. It is a known fact that the Ancient Chinese of that time thought themselves superior to the less advanced peoples surrounding them. Many advanced civilizations thought that way. There are a number of number of less than flattering names they used for other groups they were in conflict with or with whom they had a tribute based relationship with. Early Japan was the latter. The name 中國 or Middle Kingdom wasn’t just in reference to China’s geographical location. That’s how they saw themselves in regards to importance and influence in contrast to their neighbors. This is analogous to the use term “barbarian” used by the Greeks and later Romans towards the lesser advanced Gauls Celts, Thracians, and Germanic tribes of Europe. Let me ask you this: If the term 倭seemed fitting to the Japanese, why did they change it to 和soon after the beginning of the Asuka period? From what I’ve read, the early Yamato court was trying to get away from 倭as an exonym for their land/people by the Chinese. I really don’t blame them. They were trying to get more respect from the Chinese. At times the Chinese saw it as insulting that the Wajin would even try to put themselves on equal footing with them. I found it interesting that you chose the 魏Wei period as an example. Im aware of the Chinese character component委 of 魏as the phonetic component of 魏 with 彈劾semantic component being that of guí鬼 meaning ghost or demon. I know you’re being a little facetious at the end your reply, but to answer your question Its most likely that the Chinese wouldn’t use those self deprecating terms to describe themselves. This would be especially true to outsiders. To me, in that instance it seems to have been some sort of word play, symbolism, or double meaning. I’m not overly familiar with that aspect of the Chinese languages particularly the Chinese of that era. As you said earlier, it’s hard to know exactly.
@@daron6616 I certainly agree with your assessment that the Chinese viewed the Japanese of the time in a similar way to how the Romans viewed the Celts, etc. I'm just saying that, from what I've read, the actually implied *meaning* of the 倭 character doesn't seem to yet be a settled debate among historians, and there are a number of respected theories out there in addition to the pejorative theory. One tangential theory I've come across a few times is the idea that the Japanese kind of "accidentally" introduced themselves as the "wa" to the Chinese -- this being the "wa" meaning "I" or "we," later assigned the Chinese 我 character. In other words, they tried to say "us" or "our country" in Japanese, and it accidentally got interpreted as the country's name. They thus worked to get it changed in later centuries (to 日本) simply because it was a name born out of misunderstanding. This theory doesn't touch on the actual meaning of the 倭 character, but it does offer an alternate explanation as to why the Japanese were eager to have the Chinese stop using it. Anyway, you're clearly knowledgeable about the subject, and I certainly wouldn't stake my life on it not having been a pejorative -- I just think it's worth noting that there are a number of historians (like... regular ones, not weird fringe ones) who are suggesting other theories.
@@Igorooooleynikov It does seem to be the most common theory. When you Google it in Japanese a bunch of different theories come up though. Anyway, none of the books I used for the video touched on it so I just opted not to talk about it in the video.
The chopstick myth makes absolutely zero sense. When I find those nonsensical stories in mythology, it makes me wonder why they would write such seemingly meaningless stories. Were the writers on drug, or just writing a comedy piece? Or maybe it was some sort of encrypted message which can only be understood by those who know their code (e.g. a snake represents assassination or something).
Yeah I went and checked several different sources for this story just to make sure I was understanding it correctly, because it seemed so egregiously weird -- like someone's strange dream or something. I would love to be able to ask the writers of the Nihon Shoki how they perceived it.
I study Japanese history. And arimasa Kubo. Also study ancient Japanese history and me and him have the same conclusion. Have a amazing day today. Who were the yayoi yamato people.
The original O2b is thought to have evolved in the lower yangtze region of east china. O2b1 is its subclade, which probably came to Japanese islands directly from southeast coastal China over the sea (and those formed a small group of Yayoi people). It is highly likely that O2b1 in Korean peninsula originated from immigrants from Japanese islands. (Currently, O2b is almost absent from most populations in China, though.) Also, rice cultivation is older in japan than in korea by carbon dating samples
Both Korean and Japanese received O2b input from the yangtze migrants who were non-sinitic. There's no proof that these ancient yangtze people were austronesian either; they could be unique group of people. We don't know the specifics..
"Rice with a side of WAR!!!" is my favorite summary of any historical era ever anywhere, now. Good job!
😁😁😁
It’s absolutely insane they just happened to find the seal from the Han dynasty given how much is lost to history. This also symbolizes the idea that at least there was some decent trade between Japan and China.
Another form of media relating to Himiko is a rather rare movie by director Shinoda Masahiro (篠田 正浩). The movie is called Himiko (卑弥呼) and it is very beautiful but extremely strange and unsettling ! It will put you like in a trance. Knowing not much about the Yayoi period going in, it was a very peculiar experience to say the least (watched it with japanese subtitles to assure myself fatal death...)
Another amazing movie by this director taking roots in japanese folklore is 1979's Demon Pond (夜叉ヶ池). Maybe my favorite japanese movie, with an emphasis on the spirit world and mythology. Both are very theatrical.
Man, these look like some seriously deep cuts. It's unfortunate they're not on Netflix, as that's my go-to streaming service, but it looks like they are available on Amazon Prime, so I'll keep them on the short list!
So glad you’re still putting out videos! I have never learned as much about the different time periods of Japan as I have watching your videos!
Still slowly chugging away! And thank you, that makes me super happy to hear 🙏
I just found ur channel randomly and you definitely are making progress with your videos. I'm only 2 videos in, but the second video is drastically better than the first (although I really enjoyed the history in the 1st one). I like that you take criticism(constructive or not) and learn from it. It really shows that you're a true creator trying to not only teach others but yourself.
Keep up the great work, man! U got a new subscriber!
Thank you, I really appreciate that! I'm still a relative newbie when it comes to making videos, so I just have to assume there are a lot of things I'm doing that are sub-par, and plus I know that my viewers always bring a fresh set of eyes and ears to notice a lot of things that I don't (compliment sandwiches are always appreciated though haha). For me, the most important thing is that I'm delivering good, interesting information -- the technical stuff will come along with time and experience. Anyway, thanks very much for the subscription! Honored to have you on board!
i'm super late to the video, but i have to seriously thank you for the detailed captions including pronunciations🙏🏼 i know how long it can take to write those out, but i'm hard of hearing and it means so much to find a video series covering my main interest with excellent captions
Cant wait for the next video!
Thank you!! Coming very soon
Hi there! Just found your channel and I’m really enjoying it so far (my undergrad students are, too!). One additional point:
The 騎馬民族説 (Horse Rider Theory) gained some traction in Japan before the turn of the millennium and some academics in Japan still use it to explain the sudden explosion of metalworks and weapons etc in Japan at this time. It’s an interesting idea, if nothing else.
Looking forward to the rest of the series!
I literally just came across that yesterday while browsing through a book on the history of Korea! It wasn't mentioned in any of the textbooks or pseudo-textbooks I have, but then again they seem to like to keep things rather vague and noncommittal. I would love to dive into some more academic material eventually to check out the various academic theories on all the riddles of these ancient periods.
I hope you and your students enjoy the rest of the series! (And I hope you will guide them around all the little mistakes that I inevitably make!😅)
I love the opening!!!
had to look up TUMULUS: A tumulus (pl.: tumuli) is a mound of earth and stones raised over a grave or graves. Tumuli are also known as barrows, burial mounds
観るのをやめられないぐらい面白いです!
ぜひたくさん観てください！
Thank you for putting this together. It was an interesting overview, with really illustrative pictures.
I'm intrigued by the thatched roofs. They existed on western european houses in a similar time period as well, (although not at the same time, I think). Always neat to find similar thinking in completely different parts of the world.
That’s an interesting point to notice! I had never really thought about that.
Grasses, and hence, thatch, are common all over the world. It's a nearly universal material :D
Immediately subscribed, tyvm for the amazing video!!
This is really good stuff!
amazing video. Thank you
Brilliant stuff man! Keep it coming!
Great background tracks man!
You may hear some familiar ones in the next few videos haha
I love your Intro music.
The warring states period and the Han dynasty's conquests' of the Korean peninsula would have created a lot of proto Chinese and proto Korean refugees all looking for a new place to live.
There was really no peace in that region from about 475BCE to 668 CE when Tang China their ally Silla (a Korean kingdom) defeated all their rivals and were the only two kingdoms left standing in north east Asia.
Absolutely! I regret not spending more time in this video talking about the conditions on the continent that led to the influx of people to Japan.
Yes, My ancestors was ruler of Wu(吴) in Modern day Shanghai. I learnt that my people was fleeing to Japan became the Yayoi people
Good job!
I've been wonder about this for awhile, what's the full map used in around 6:31 ?
please tell me the music gets toned down eventually
Wow, I have never seen any video that would be at least as good as yours. Thank you for sharing this knowledge with us! ありがとうございます！💜
It's really helpful when having an exam about it.
Diggin it.
Excellent! I’m eager for 16th.
Chronology of Himiko:
108 AD - Hinotori Appears and “For some seventy or eighty years after that there were disturbances and warfare.” It will be 72 years exactly.
180 AD - Himiko Assumes the Throne.
246 AD - After 66 years of ruling. Hinotori Appears and Darkens the Sun. The people revolt against Himiko. She would ask for help from China, but it would be too late.
247 AD - Himiko Dies.
After her Reign - This account is likely the basis for the Legend of Amaterasu. The story of JIMMU occurs after Himiko.
Osamu Tezuka had an accurate Real-World Chronology of the appearances of Hinotori. That work you cite from him is more of a documentary than entertainment.
That appearance of Hinotori in 246 AD must have left a lasting memory in the minds of the Japanese. So much so that they fabricated a fictional narrative that begins with JIMMU going back to the year 721 bc.
721 BC was yet another appearance of Hinotori (one cycle of 60 before JIMMU’s enthronement), recorded by Babylonia, but its effects felt everywhere.
Excellent video btw.
Do archeologists search in the sea around japan for structures or artifacts since they believe there use to be land bridges? That allowed ppl to migrate?
I’ve gotta imagine that would be a challenge given how much the currents would have moved stuff around over the centuries, but… I honestly don’t know for sure! If anyone has any info, please chime in!
What's the name of the opening theme?
It is a hip-hop remix I made of the song Tetego-bashi (ててご橋) from the old Lone Wolf and Cub movie series.
@@BuyuudenJapaneseHistory It is fantastic!
What was the music in the intro?
Hey bro!! I had heard of that in 1000BC Korean people came to japan and in 300Bc that’s when Han Chinese migrated to the Japan in somewhere in southern japan
I feel like I’ve heard something like this before as well but I’d need to do some further research to offer my take on it. The sources I used for this video painted everything in pretty broad strokes. The recent trend of placing the start of the Yayoi period in the 10th century BC definitely backs up the idea of 1000~900 BC Korean immigration though.
If this is the best Japan can offer about history I am not convince! It's more believable that Japan began from small group of Chinese migration.
As a Chinese myself, I very agree strongly
Japonic language is unique and has no close relatives (except maybe Koreanic but that's still controversial), whereas Sinitic is part of the Sino-Tibetan family. The two aren't related.
Did ancient Han Chinese and Koreans come to japan in ancient times?
Koreans definitely did, and it is thought that some Chinese came as well. Koreans are mostly the ones talked about it in my sources, but they all make offhand mentions to some Chinese having been mixed in too. There's actually a 1990 paper by a guy named Wang Xiang-ron called "The Chinese Who Came to Japan in the Yayoi Period" which makes the case for there having been a lot of Chinese immigrants, but I don't know what the scholarly consensus is on his theory.
@Aspelta Interesting. This definitely makes me want to read deeper into the subject. Honestly, I would almost prefer them to have the same ancestors, as it might provide a bridge to more friendly relations in the future… but if the science says they don’t, then I’m not going to argue 🤷♂️
Bringers
Malaysian Chinese here, I'm come from Goh family (吴/呉), according to study to my ancestry research. After the fall of Kingdom of Wu (吴) located in Shanghai (上海) today. The refugees has flee to Japan that can be traced one of the earliest record of Yayoi Immigration in Japan. The Imperial Yamato family was descendents of Wu.
Come and give me your opinion please?. 🙏🙏
Genetics has largely debunked this hypothesis. According to the latest genetic tests on Yayoi remains (Cooke et al. 2021), the Yayoi were a mixture of indigenous Jomon with incoming Amur people from West Liao river or the Amur river in Manchuria, neither of which had anything to do with the Yangtse Delta or anywhere else in Central and Southern China.
What is the number of Han Chinese coming to Japan? And did Han Chinese come to Korea in ancient times?
Of course
Yes
Some argue that Japanese O1b2 y-dna haplogroup proves thay are Korean origin.. but think about it. Y-dna only comes from paternal lineage.. Since Han Chinese conquered and sinicized the Yangtze river civilization and married the women, no modern Yangtzean Chinese would still carry their original y-DNA, their y-DNA became O3, Han y-DNA because their great grandfather's were Han who moved from the North. Those Yangtzean refugees who escaped brought the original Yangtzean O1b2 y-DNA to southern Korean peninsula, and ultimately Japan..
O1b2 has never been detected in any ancient DNA sample from South China or SE Asia (geneticists already tested dozens of them in different locations from different time periods), and the upstream clade of Japonic O1b2-47z, namely O1b2-CTS713, can be found in Manchuria at low frequencies. It's much much more likely that O1b2 ultimately came from somewhere in Manchuria or the Korean peninsula.
Interesting, the history of Japan is found from Chinese history books, but the history of South Korea depends on imagination and bragging
The OP is talking about a verifiable history of Japan. Ancient authors wrote about Japan without restraint on mythology. 😅
Yayoi origins are ultimately the Yangtze river delta. If, as Koreans claim, that Japanese rice farmers migrated through Liaodong and Korean peninsula, then why does DNA of Korean rice not match Japanese rice? Did rice suddenly mutate upon arrival in Kyushu to match exactly the same as southern China? The reality is that the Mumun culture were probably from Yangtze (how they got there is unknown) and became absorbed by Koreans migrating south from Manchuria, some fled to Wa Japan. The conjecture of Yangtzean civilization being Austronesian is also questionable.. where's the proof? This is like saying Finland is a slavic tribe.. Far eastern China was far enough from Austroasiatic and Tai Kradai that a new culture already emerged. The identical tattooing, teeth blackening, teeth pulling, rice paddy, and similar phonology of Japanese and Wu/Yangtzean language cannot just be a coincidence..
@antibrandon2690 Thanks bro, really. It shows that you have been following the latest researches in genetics and archaeology as well as linguistics. I'm really tired of seeing all these trolls spamming every video related to Japanese or East Asian history with their "Yayoi originated from South China" nonsense.
Even if Yayoi people didn't come from southern china, yayoi culture was at least taken from eastern china. All the evidence suggests that the yayoi and jiangnan cultures were in direct contact, despite being distinct groups of people
Jomon passed it onto the Yayoi (modern japanese)
Then the Jomon left.
I'm getting nervous
Yamato-Totohi-Momoso-Hime. That is pretty hard to say
It’s one of the most ridiculous names I’ve ever encountered (haha)
倭 (WA) was an Ancient Chinese pejorative for the Japanese meaning “dwarf” The Japanese then changed it to this 和 (WA) meaning peace and harmony.
This is indeed one theory... of many. There is no universal scholarly consensus on exactly what meaning was intended to be conveyed by the 倭 character. Some of the others suggest that it meant "obedient" or "docile," or even that it referred to a custom of the Yayoi era Japanese having face tattoos (!). One interesting argument I've seen AGAINST it being a pejorative is that the kanji that the Cao Wei used to refer to themselves, 魏, also includes the 委 component in it, so... were they insulting themselves too? Anyway, it's an interesting debate.
@@BuyuudenJapaneseHistory
I disagree with the assertion that it wasn’t a pejorative. It is a known fact that the Ancient Chinese of that time thought themselves superior to the less advanced peoples surrounding them. Many advanced civilizations thought that way. There are a number of number of less than flattering names they used for other groups they were in conflict with or with whom they had a tribute based relationship with. Early Japan was the latter. The name 中國 or Middle Kingdom wasn’t just in reference to China’s geographical location. That’s how they saw themselves in regards to importance and influence in contrast to their neighbors. This is analogous to the use term “barbarian” used by the Greeks and later Romans towards the lesser advanced Gauls Celts, Thracians, and Germanic tribes of Europe. Let me ask you this: If the term 倭seemed fitting to the Japanese, why did they change it to 和soon after the beginning of the Asuka period? From what I’ve read, the early Yamato court was trying to get away from 倭as an exonym for their land/people by the Chinese. I really don’t blame them. They were trying to get more respect from the Chinese. At times the Chinese saw it as insulting that the Wajin would even try to put themselves on equal footing with them. I found it interesting that you chose the 魏Wei period as an example. Im aware of the Chinese character component委 of 魏as the phonetic component of 魏 with 彈劾semantic component being that of guí鬼 meaning ghost or demon. I know you’re being a little facetious at the end your reply, but to answer your question Its most likely that the Chinese wouldn’t use those self deprecating terms to describe themselves. This would be especially true to outsiders. To me, in that instance it seems to have been some sort of word play, symbolism, or double meaning. I’m not overly familiar with that aspect of the Chinese languages particularly the Chinese of that era. As you said earlier, it’s hard to know exactly.
@@daron6616 I certainly agree with your assessment that the Chinese viewed the Japanese of the time in a similar way to how the Romans viewed the Celts, etc. I'm just saying that, from what I've read, the actually implied *meaning* of the 倭 character doesn't seem to yet be a settled debate among historians, and there are a number of respected theories out there in addition to the pejorative theory. One tangential theory I've come across a few times is the idea that the Japanese kind of "accidentally" introduced themselves as the "wa" to the Chinese -- this being the "wa" meaning "I" or "we," later assigned the Chinese 我 character. In other words, they tried to say "us" or "our country" in Japanese, and it accidentally got interpreted as the country's name. They thus worked to get it changed in later centuries (to 日本) simply because it was a name born out of misunderstanding. This theory doesn't touch on the actual meaning of the 倭 character, but it does offer an alternate explanation as to why the Japanese were eager to have the Chinese stop using it.
Anyway, you're clearly knowledgeable about the subject, and I certainly wouldn't stake my life on it not having been a pejorative -- I just think it's worth noting that there are a number of historians (like... regular ones, not weird fringe ones) who are suggesting other theories.
@@BuyuudenJapaneseHistory
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@@Igorooooleynikov It does seem to be the most common theory. When you Google it in Japanese a bunch of different theories come up though. Anyway, none of the books I used for the video touched on it so I just opted not to talk about it in the video.
Keep your war, I ordered tokiyaki, now where is it? Don't make me call your mananger!😂😂😂
弥生人是呉国的避難民
我从来吴性家庭!
根据最新的基因研究（Cooke et al 2021），弥生人是日本原住民绳纹人与东北亚西辽河夏家店人群的混血，跟长江流域的吴国越国毫无关系。
The chopstick myth makes absolutely zero sense. When I find those nonsensical stories in mythology, it makes me wonder why they would write such seemingly meaningless stories. Were the writers on drug, or just writing a comedy piece? Or maybe it was some sort of encrypted message which can only be understood by those who know their code (e.g. a snake represents assassination or something).
Yeah I went and checked several different sources for this story just to make sure I was understanding it correctly, because it seemed so egregiously weird -- like someone's strange dream or something. I would love to be able to ask the writers of the Nihon Shoki how they perceived it.
I believe Yamatai was/is actually Yamato
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I study Japanese history. And arimasa Kubo. Also study ancient Japanese history and me and him have the same conclusion.
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Who were the yayoi yamato people.
Would have preferred the strong jomon than weak looking yayoi.
lmao I love these videos but no sir, the pneumonics are not helpful to me 🤣
they ARE interesting though and I'm glad they're included!
The original O2b is thought to have evolved in the lower yangtze region of east china. O2b1 is its subclade, which probably came to Japanese islands directly from southeast coastal China over the sea (and those formed a small group of Yayoi people). It is highly likely that O2b1 in Korean peninsula originated from immigrants from Japanese islands. (Currently, O2b is almost absent from most populations in China, though.) Also, rice cultivation is older in japan than in korea by carbon dating samples
Both Korean and Japanese received O2b input from the yangtze migrants who were non-sinitic. There's no proof that these ancient yangtze people were austronesian either; they could be unique group of people. We don't know the specifics..
It will always be known as the era before Christ.
Loved it apart from all the ce and bvr nonsence which just plays into the moder hatred of Christians. Do YOU hate Cvhristians?
Go away, evil troublemaker.