Frankly Paul, I thought Neal Brown should have gone the year before last. I think last year was an anomaly. I don't think Brown is good enough for Power 4 football. He was great at Troy but has move up beyond his capabilities. Not only with X's & O's, but with choosing coordinators and coaches. Time to go.
GET RID OF NEIL BROWN PERIOD. They should let the asst Coach do what Neil Brown should be doing Coach the rest of this season. We couldn't do any worse.
I think we are being too hard on GG, his backstep is completely on the coaching staff. The packages have been subpar for Greenes ability and it feels like they have spent so much time trying to force Greene to have a better pocket presence and have taken his strengths away and coached the dog out of him. The recievers have not been getting separation for him either. Garrett plays his tail off for us every game. Edit, also Nicco has had very few snaps and his first decently long pass was in inception. Yeah he might catch fire, but GG is just guilty by association with drops, bad coaching, and poor route running.
The worst thing about Garrett is he doesn't play defense. While Nico would be a good replacement, he has the same problem, he doesn't play defense.. You can't fix the defense without fixing the secondary and bringing in quality defensive coaches. The offense is not perfect but they and the defensive line and linebackers are not to blame for losing. Tinkering with the offense will not fix the main problem. With a decent secondary we would be 2 and 1.
A coach deleting his social Media because of common sports criticism is really weak and sad. The guy has made well over a million dollars as a coach here. Take any criticism like a man and keep moving forward. Criticism is just part of the game.
After this season we gotta make a change at HC. Neal Brown is a good man but power 4 football is over his head. They showed him on the sideline and he looks like a deer in head lights. I wish him well.
The coaching possibility I don’t see anybody mentioning is Curt Cignetti at Indiana. He’s won big everywhere. Looks like he’s turned Indiana into a dangerous team in year one. He’s a former QB at WV.
GG has gotten away from what he is. He’s a scrambler. Never was a great passer. Instead of taking off when he has room to run he’s trying to throw it. And when he does run it’s a terrible designed run play by the coaching staff that’s so obvious to the opposing team he has to no chance.
I’ve been saying it since day 1 … Brown”s success at Troy was because of Vic. Vic’s defenses at WVU played way better than the talent they had. The defense has been terrible since Vic left. Forget the statistics. Forget the rankings. Where Lesley sucks is in-game adjustments. Game after game it’s the same thing. I hate it for him and for Brown. I want them to be successful. But Lesley has to go. And if Brown isn’t willing to make a change then he needs to get fired.
@@erics6883 That was back at a time when the Black Lives Matter protests were happening and some people were claiming "racism" for almost everything. Vic didn't march in the parade and didn't speak out fast enough. The culture of the team was bad and he got caught up in it. The defense hasn't been the same since - and as a result Brown hasn't had much success.
With all the money being thrown around, we are wholly justified to criticize the team. Time to move on folks, there is nothing here. Look at our schedule. KU qb is going to eat our d-line for lunch and im sure he is pumped to get out there. He will scramble and go up top, or run it for 200 yards.
I think that GG has been hampered by NB because he calls the plays and also the WR starters have been less than stellar like you said. I think Bray and Robinson need to start.
Greene can do two things: run and throw the deep ball. They want him to be something he isn’t. One off-season can’t fix his mechanics and accuracy. Change the offense to match his skills.
Absolutely amazing how quickly your tune has changed lol from telling the guy from Locked On Penn State that GG was unstoppable to benching him after 3 games
Okay AND? I based those opinions on what happened the season prior. Did u know that opinions change based off information? I know it may be a crazy concept to some, but it happens. Second... I asked the question and made no definitive statement on that, that I remember. I did say his play has been AWFUL through 3 games and that's just the truth. Do u want me to die on hills even though I'm wrong? Or adapt and change when I'm wrong about an opinion? Either way I can't win because I'm the one putting a face and name on it. Try that before you try some "gotcha" statement again.
The coaching staff tamed Greene over the past year Paul. They castrated him. No fire, dead in his eyes. They finally beat it out of him and this is what we get. This defense will get better and more questions will come on Greene.
Nicco came in with a lot of hype-which makes me wonder why we’re not seeing him more? He’s been here 2+ years and I have to think that if he has the skills we’ve been led to believe, then it’s time for him to see the field. If in reality, he hasn’t produced in practice-then next year looks bleak.
I'd normally agree Phil - EXCEPT, it has become PAINFULLY obvious for awhile now that Brown is loyal to certain individuals to a disastrously painful fault (and I would argue now, it has gone beyond "loyalty" to chronic dependency). Just like Leslie and others on the staff - it has filtered to players. Brown sees Greene as his "guy" thru thick and thin, even if it means a losing season and his job.
Garrett Greene was hyped too. Neal Brown can't coach a QB. This is year 6, every single qb has struggled with Neal Brown. Everyone gets worse, not better the following year. Ask yourself why? It's play calling, it's coaching. Should have moved on in 2022 and the fans had blinders on last year. Neal Brown may be a nice go, I don't know him, but I can see that he isn't s good coach. Trump bashes Biden and Harris for not having fired anyone in the administration, same complaint with Brown. He doesn't fire his coaching staff and he doesn't bench players. Terrible leader.
I don’t understand calling plays where GG drops straight back. He’s 5’11 if lucky and can’t see over the line. Move him out of the box and give options more. Play calling with 32 seconds left was awful,, take the 10-15 for a few plays and set up for a deep shot at the end just to have that chance. This is GG’s team to win or die with this year.
That happened when Kyler Murray of the AZ Cardinals missed a wide open Marvin Harrison JR who evaded his defender and was wide open in the end zone. The Bills won. Why isn't OC's doing plays in the best interest of shorter QBs?
Now that I have had some time to calm myself down, I take back what I said yesterday about starting Nicco, I don’t think it’s that bad yet, now if you start 0-2 or 0-3 in big 12 play then yes, but right now Greene is still the leader of the team and benching him 3 games in will completely kill what morale if any we have left. I would also like to add, I don’t think Greenes struggles are on him and more so on the coaching staff, it seems like they want him to be a pocket passer and to add im almost convinced he seems like he was banged up during practice or something. He seems timid, it seems like the coaches want him to be a pocket passer, and they won’t let him control the offense. I believe in Greene and Nicco, but right now, GG deserves to run the offense to start big 12 play, and if it doesn’t improve, then at that point it doesn’t matter anyway.
Great show, ive been following you since the beginning and im glad to see you continue to move up in the social media arenas. Beown needs forced to hire a true OC and get rid of Leslie at the least. He needs to give Greene more control and see how he does before we bring in Nicco, imo
Neal Brown is the problem and his playcalling is absolutely terrible. I mean embarrassingly terrible. GG has been off a little this year and his confidence isn’t the same. The problem is he doesn’t have great receivers to throw to and he’s not a great passer. Put all that together was terrible playcalling and you have a recipe for Disaster Garrett Green is not the problem. he’s a great kid with a lot of heart and a lot of passion. However, I do think there are times where Neal Brown needs to rotate Nico in just to see how well he can do. The trouble is Neal Brown’s timing is always terrible for things like that.
Yeah, cowardice may be a bad word to describe it. But it's just a huge sign of weakness and those people can be blocked, or deleted. All you gotta do is hire someone to filter for it.... but it equates to..... heat too hot? Get out of the kitchen, ya know?
Hey Paul...I called this game...due to the defense. Not at Pitt, Man! And think about it also....AN OFFENSIVE FOULS (SUBTRACT 7 PTS). Casteel or Gibson. Bring back the 3-3-5 defense and someone knows how to run it. And Greene...Heisman ego1
If you can't cover, you have to bring pressure from everywhere. You can't force our secondary to have to cover until a pass is thrown. Change the defense! On offense, we need more designed runs for Greene. The WRs WILL get open when the secondary has their eyes in the backfield on a running QB. He is not running so there is no threat. If it's a passing only competition, I'll take Nico all day. The one thing that set them apart was Greene's legs. If he's not running, he's no good to us.
If wvu is going to have a chance this year Nico needs to start against Kansas if Nico does not start Brown is doing the same with Greene who has regressed very much this year over last year. Remember what Brown did with his other quarterback that Greene replaced. Now Greene needs replaced, but Brown will not replace him.
Of the defensive transfers, 3 guys have been good -Jackson the DL, Carrico the LB and Jaheem Joseph the DB look to be P4 athletes. However French Hollis Crandall Garnes and Fagan look totally lost and overmatched out there.
Hard to see. I pull for WVU in every game now since PSU been playing them the last 2 years. That 3 min letdown was unacceptable. two many guys moving slow on defense. on GG, ya know what he is ya dont with Nico, make the switch! find out!
Nicco might be the future but he has not shown much in our limited looks at him. He is definitely not the runner Green is but he is bigger and has decent arm talent. That being said Nicco has 3 tds and 5 picks in limited mostly garbage time minutes.
That long completion right before the half in the Penn State game was obvious offensive pass interference . If it wasn't then there's no such thing as offensive pass interference. . He pushed off and every one saw it . Penn State got a cheap TD and it did change everything
LMAO what a look.... Coaches who are so mentally weak they are deleting social media and shaving their beards off because they are so bothered by what the fanbase says. They hyped this team up to NO END! All the stuff they said preseason, in camp, calling out polls and ESPN for lack of respect in the rankings and not having GG on Heisman lists. Brown and his staff are all talk. All they ever hold on to is the what ifs, should have been, could have been, if we only did ____ insert any excuse you can blame on a player. Tired of it. It's over here Neal, we're fed up with the BS.
No, Nicco is not the answer dude. Damn, Nicco is a copy of Greene who could not beat him out. Same old thing, please bring in a more dynamic QB next year.
Defense has been a huge let down and trouble spot. But, Brown is not the guy for WVU
34 points by the offense should be enough to win the game. I also felt like the D-Line and the LBs played well. Especially Trey Laython.
Frankly Paul, I thought Neal Brown should have gone the year before last. I think last year was an anomaly. I don't think Brown is good enough for Power 4 football. He was great at Troy but has move up beyond his capabilities. Not only with X's & O's, but with choosing coordinators and coaches. Time to go.
GET RID OF NEIL BROWN PERIOD.
They should let the asst Coach do what Neil Brown should be doing Coach the rest of this season. We couldn't do any worse.
It’s not Greens fault. Throwing the long ball and running the ball are his strengths. He is stuck in Brown’s dink and dunk offense .
I think we are being too hard on GG, his backstep is completely on the coaching staff. The packages have been subpar for Greenes ability and it feels like they have spent so much time trying to force Greene to have a better pocket presence and have taken his strengths away and coached the dog out of him. The recievers have not been getting separation for him either. Garrett plays his tail off for us every game.
Edit, also Nicco has had very few snaps and his first decently long pass was in inception. Yeah he might catch fire, but GG is just guilty by association with drops, bad coaching, and poor route running.
The worst thing about Garrett is he doesn't play defense. While Nico would be a good replacement, he has the same problem, he doesn't play defense.. You can't fix the defense without fixing the secondary and bringing in quality defensive coaches. The offense is not perfect but they and the defensive line and linebackers are not to blame for losing. Tinkering with the offense will not fix the main problem. With a decent secondary we would be 2 and 1.
A coach deleting his social
Media because of common sports criticism is really weak and sad. The guy has made well over a million dollars as a coach here. Take any criticism like a man and keep moving forward. Criticism is just part of the game.
He's making around $750,000 a year.
@@RedBone-q2v yes. So add the last 5 years up and it’s well over a million dollars he’s made here. Do you know math brother
@@MountaineerAthletes Oh yeah, I wasn't contradicting you at all. He's made way more than he's worth. I knew what you meant.
After this season we gotta make a change at HC. Neal Brown is a good man but power 4 football is over his head. They showed him on the sideline and he looks like a deer in head lights. I wish him well.
The coaching possibility I don’t see anybody mentioning is Curt Cignetti at Indiana. He’s won big everywhere. Looks like he’s turned Indiana into a dangerous team in year one. He’s a former QB at WV.
Nicco is gonna be the real deal. That arm strenth is unreal, that throw he made against Pitt last year into triple coverage was beautiful
GG has gotten away from what he is. He’s a scrambler. Never was a great passer. Instead of taking off when he has room to run he’s trying to throw it. And when he does run it’s a terrible designed run play by the coaching staff that’s so obvious to the opposing team he has to no chance.
I’ve been saying it since day 1 … Brown”s success at Troy was because of Vic. Vic’s defenses at WVU played way better than the talent they had. The defense has been terrible since Vic left.
Forget the statistics. Forget the rankings. Where Lesley sucks is in-game adjustments. Game after game it’s the same thing.
I hate it for him and for Brown. I want them to be successful. But Lesley has to go. And if Brown isn’t willing to make a change then he needs to get fired.
Have to agree on Coach Koenning. It was a shame what happened to him. I read what he said and it all seemed blown way out of proportion.
@@erics6883 That was back at a time when the Black Lives Matter protests were happening and some people were claiming "racism" for almost everything. Vic didn't march in the parade and didn't speak out fast enough. The culture of the team was bad and he got caught up in it. The defense hasn't been the same since - and as a result Brown hasn't had much success.
Lesley is gone. Glad Brown made the move.
I think I am done with this team. They obviously can’t stand progress. A bad team will always find a way to lose.
Now Brown needs to delete his
Brown needs his contract deleted.
With all the money being thrown around, we are wholly justified to criticize the team. Time to move on folks, there is nothing here. Look at our schedule. KU qb is going to eat our d-line for lunch and im sure he is pumped to get out there. He will scramble and go up top, or run it for 200 yards.
I think that GG has been hampered by NB because he calls the plays and also the WR starters have been less than stellar like you said. I think Bray and Robinson need to start.
Great show Paul, The wall is crumbling and that is what is needed.
Thanks Gary
Greene can do two things: run and throw the deep ball.
They want him to be something he isn’t. One off-season can’t fix his mechanics and accuracy.
Change the offense to match his skills.
Absolutely amazing how quickly your tune has changed lol from telling the guy from Locked On Penn State that GG was unstoppable to benching him after 3 games
Okay AND? I based those opinions on what happened the season prior. Did u know that opinions change based off information? I know it may be a crazy concept to some, but it happens. Second... I asked the question and made no definitive statement on that, that I remember. I did say his play has been AWFUL through 3 games and that's just the truth. Do u want me to die on hills even though I'm wrong? Or adapt and change when I'm wrong about an opinion? Either way I can't win because I'm the one putting a face and name on it. Try that before you try some "gotcha" statement again.
Glad you put the summer koolaid down and realize he and the team are mediorce.
The coaching staff tamed Greene over the past year Paul. They castrated him. No fire, dead in his eyes. They finally beat it out of him and this is what we get. This defense will get better and more questions will come on Greene.
Nicco came in with a lot of hype-which makes me wonder why we’re not seeing him more? He’s been here 2+ years and I have to think that if he has the skills we’ve been led to believe, then it’s time for him to see the field. If in reality, he hasn’t produced in practice-then next year looks bleak.
I'd normally agree Phil - EXCEPT, it has become PAINFULLY obvious for awhile now that Brown is loyal to certain individuals to a disastrously painful fault (and I would argue now, it has gone beyond "loyalty" to chronic dependency).
Just like Leslie and others on the staff - it has filtered to players. Brown sees Greene as his "guy" thru thick and thin, even if it means a losing season and his job.
Garrett Greene was hyped too. Neal Brown can't coach a QB. This is year 6, every single qb has struggled with Neal Brown. Everyone gets worse, not better the following year. Ask yourself why? It's play calling, it's coaching. Should have moved on in 2022 and the fans had blinders on last year. Neal Brown may be a nice go, I don't know him, but I can see that he isn't s good coach. Trump bashes Biden and Harris for not having fired anyone in the administration, same complaint with Brown. He doesn't fire his coaching staff and he doesn't bench players. Terrible leader.
I don’t understand calling plays where GG drops straight back. He’s 5’11 if lucky and can’t see over the line. Move him out of the box and give options more. Play calling with 32 seconds left was awful,, take the 10-15 for a few plays and set up for a deep shot at the end just to have that chance. This is GG’s team to win or die with this year.
That happened when Kyler Murray of the AZ Cardinals missed a wide open Marvin Harrison JR who evaded his defender and was wide open in the end zone. The Bills won. Why isn't OC's doing plays in the best interest of shorter QBs?
Now that I have had some time to calm myself down, I take back what I said yesterday about starting Nicco, I don’t think it’s that bad yet, now if you start 0-2 or 0-3 in big 12 play then yes, but right now Greene is still the leader of the team and benching him 3 games in will completely kill what morale if any we have left. I would also like to add, I don’t think Greenes struggles are on him and more so on the coaching staff, it seems like they want him to be a pocket passer and to add im almost convinced he seems like he was banged up during practice or something. He seems timid, it seems like the coaches want him to be a pocket passer, and they won’t let him control the offense. I believe in Greene and Nicco, but right now, GG deserves to run the offense to start big 12 play, and if it doesn’t improve, then at that point it doesn’t matter anyway.
Great show, ive been following you since the beginning and im glad to see you continue to move up in the social media arenas. Beown needs forced to hire a true OC and get rid of Leslie at the least. He needs to give Greene more control and see how he does before we bring in Nicco, imo
GG has his issues, but he’s not the problem
Neal Brown is the problem and his playcalling is absolutely terrible. I mean embarrassingly terrible. GG has been off a little this year and his confidence isn’t the same. The problem is he doesn’t have great receivers to throw to and he’s not a great passer. Put all that together was terrible playcalling and you have a recipe for Disaster Garrett Green is not the problem. he’s a great kid with a lot of heart and a lot of passion. However, I do think there are times where Neal Brown needs to rotate Nico in just to see how well he can do. The trouble is Neal Brown’s timing is always terrible for things like that.
Thanks
WVU pays Leslie $750,000 a year for this???😢
It’s not cowardice if he’s getting threats, which is possible. We have a few morons in our fanbase.
Yeah, cowardice may be a bad word to describe it. But it's just a huge sign of weakness and those people can be blocked, or deleted. All you gotta do is hire someone to filter for it.... but it equates to..... heat too hot? Get out of the kitchen, ya know?
The GM they brought in from The Cowboys is the one who tells them who to go after in The Portal.
Wow good thanks for the news Paul
Never been less enthusiastic about wvu football. Time to move on
Hey Paul...I called this game...due to the defense. Not at Pitt, Man! And think about it also....AN OFFENSIVE FOULS (SUBTRACT 7 PTS). Casteel or Gibson. Bring back the 3-3-5 defense and someone knows how to run it. And Greene...Heisman ego1
If you can't cover, you have to bring pressure from everywhere. You can't force our secondary to have to cover until a pass is thrown. Change the defense! On offense, we need more designed runs for Greene. The WRs WILL get open when the secondary has their eyes in the backfield on a running QB. He is not running so there is no threat. If it's a passing only competition, I'll take Nico all day. The one thing that set them apart was Greene's legs. If he's not running, he's no good to us.
Been a Wv Fan forever. I ain't going nowhere 😊
The problem isn’t the players it the play calling and coaching. A Ferrari can lose a race to a Honda if you can’t drive
His demise isn't what I'd call "getting worse."
Let Casteel take over
Bring Gary P in and have him as coach in waiting
If wvu is going to have a chance this year Nico needs to start against Kansas if Nico does not start Brown is doing the same with Greene who has regressed very much this year over last year. Remember what Brown did with his other quarterback that Greene replaced. Now Greene needs replaced, but Brown will not replace him.
Of the defensive transfers, 3 guys have been good -Jackson the DL, Carrico the LB and Jaheem Joseph the DB look to be P4 athletes. However French Hollis Crandall Garnes and Fagan look totally lost and overmatched out there.
Where are the long passes?
Hard to see. I pull for WVU in every game now since PSU been playing them the last 2 years. That 3 min letdown was unacceptable. two many guys moving slow on defense. on GG, ya know what he is ya dont with Nico, make the switch! find out!
Nicco might be the future but he has not shown much in our limited looks at him. He is definitely not the runner Green is but he is bigger and has decent arm talent. That being said Nicco has 3 tds and 5 picks in limited mostly garbage time minutes.
That long completion right before the half in the Penn State game was obvious offensive pass interference . If it wasn't then there's no such thing as offensive pass interference. . He pushed off and every one saw it . Penn State got a cheap TD and it did change everything
Sure, but it's what he said he was doing as a COORDINATOR is what bothers me. He was playing man instead of backing our corners WAY off!
LMAO what a look.... Coaches who are so mentally weak they are deleting social media and shaving their beards off because they are so bothered by what the fanbase says. They hyped this team up to NO END! All the stuff they said preseason, in camp, calling out polls and ESPN for lack of respect in the rankings and not having GG on Heisman lists. Brown and his staff are all talk. All they ever hold on to is the what ifs, should have been, could have been, if we only did ____ insert any excuse you can blame on a player. Tired of it. It's over here Neal, we're fed up with the BS.
it isn’t hudson clement’s fault.. THEY WONT THROW THE BALL TO HIM? Neal Brown is an idiot. Kole Taylor is our best hope. and that’s sad
He just dont want to hear it. Brown wont fire him during season
Maybe so!
Deleting account is always a foreshadowing of the person leaving. Seems like a good dude, but he should've been let go sometime ago.
Agreed
Addae is in Buffalo but is my pick for DC
No, Nicco is not the answer dude. Damn, Nicco is a copy of Greene who could not beat him out. Same old thing, please bring in a more dynamic QB next year.
We disagree. But it's fine.
Sheesh!
Give # 85 a chance
I think it's finally happening... and sorry buddy but good.
EJ Horton sucked & couldn't catch a cold in Alaska , I dont recall Horton doing anything but dropping passes
Might wanna check again. He caught quite a few bombs last year. And it's the THREAT. That matters.
@@hoopsfromthehills 4 catches for 59 yards & a td , is not what I consider a threat , I will say it again he sucked
Who will take his place Paul
Gonna have to wait and see man!
Miller Amy Robinson Amy Thomas Joseph
He sucks so it's to move on. Neil Brown doesn't have a good defensive scheme, so he hires guys with his same crap ideas of how to play defense...
All your NIL money players have done nothing against Pitt and Penn State.
Outside of Jackson and To some extent, Carrico
You don't know he's gone.
Did u watch the video?
😂😂😂😂😂
All us fans should protest Wren Bakers office and make sure both those mofos (Brown, Lesley) are gone by the end of the week.
When Pitt beats you and makes your coach delete their social medias 🫡😂😱🚬
It was Jamihle.Addae