The irony! One of Bob's big gripes was that Ray wasn't paying him what he was supposed to, and then Bob not paying Victor is basically what got him caught.
I was thinking the exact thing. There were so many vile, evil people involved in this case, including the ones with ZERO conscience who stayed quiet, ie, Katie and the therapist girlfriend. They never heard of the Golden Rule. Scumbags!
@saimo2498 because for some of us who are mature we don't go out drinking and driving we drink on special occasions and have fun while doing it which is totally fine the idiots who drink and cause issues are pathetic I'm just glad I'm not like that .
But it reminds me of the old prank call on Stern where they prank Tradio. Ray on Tradio took the day off so they keep calling and asking where's Ray, and they keep arguing with the host about Ray. Hilarious.
There is an old saying from my country that my dad says that street people use back in times: real men never trust serious issues to alcoholics, drug addicts, or gays....We live in very tough times. God protect us!
That Meth dealer reminds me of an ex-uncle. He was the most narcissistic, drug-dealing, wife beating sociopath who denied EVERYTHING he did wrong. And he'd look you in the eye while lying!
Or did he turn that way after the accident? Near death experiences change people. They say he was a meth dealer, but was that prior to the accident or after the accident is very important detail.
Before n after n if no t before lots of ppl have life n death experiences n dnt just turn into a meth dealer. No excuses for taking that man's life. Come on now!l
Thank you for pointing out that some of the worst most despicable Liars will look you dead in the eye . I have been using that as one of the arguments explaining why body language is it dangerous pseudoscience because it can make innocent people look guilty and it can make guilty people look innocent . Yeah I've noticed also that some of the biggest Liars definitely stare you straight in the eye .
Rio Vista isn't a big money area. I'm surprised he was doing construction there, instead of Sacramento, honestly. It's a very small population, & mostly small farmers.
God bless his sweet family ( daughters, friends, brother, and, of course, the mother of his kids). My prayer is that someone comes forward and discloses where his remains are...so that he can be properly laid to rest, in the name of Jesus. ✝️
Absolutely don't drink and drive the thing of it is regardless he did spend 18 months in jail now some may think that that's a minor sentence term but it wasn't vehicular manslaughter
It’s an interesting case-one man, seemingly an all-around amazing guy, relapses and makes the worst mistake of his life, permanently altering the lives of 2 strangers for the worse. If we did not know those 2 people to be dealing meth, would 18 months seem long enough? Not me, if it were me or someone I love…the 2 people whose lives were harmed happened to make their living by supporting addiction and its cycle of loss and death in society that causes immeasurable harm…the guy who was under the influence of addiction, was the perpetrator of a terrible act, and the consequences fell on this drug lord, who felt so wronged
Rage and revenge can tear a person apart. Taking justice on your own can have consequences. Ray had a debt to pay, and didn’t. The two convicts got what they deserved, they too took revenge on each other for a debt that was owed. No one wins.. what a tragic crime.
“Ray had a debt to pay and didn’t?” They didn’t say that. I believe they said he was behind on payments? Food for thought… If it was $215,000 for example, or whatever it was, it could take 17+ years of paying $1000/month which most people cannot afford. They could’ve garnished his wages, maybe they were (it wasn’t mentioned here), but if one literally cannot afford it, what do they do… bring back debtors prisons? Is that where Ray belonged?
Damn I feel bad for the family. Ray didnt deseve to be killed but a part of me understands the man wanting revenge. Just a series of unfortunate events leading to a tragedy.
@@jefft8597 And he was living in Rocklin (one of the nicest parts of Sacramento) while Bob was living in the slums of North Sacramento (looks like Del Paso Heights).
I wonder how common this type of vengeance/vigilante crime is. I wonder if it’s so rare (as far as a DUI incident) and that’s why they didn’t consider it so quickly 🤔
That's the likely scenario. The accident happened years earlier and it's understandable that no-one made the connection. In the end good investigative work solved the case.@@nbaoldgirl
@spiderwebb33, I'm guessing that since it had been 6years, it wasn't the most obvious connection. The moment the letter mentions revenge, I thought of the car accident.
I had to scroll and read other people's comments. My initial gut reaction is so sad that he got killed but, damn, it sucks living with lifelong pain and, then, not even being paid properly for it. I am so sorry for everyone involved.
Who has 275,000 dollars? If the "victim " of accident had hurt or killed someone in his high speed chase, he wouldn't have money to pay them either. Either way, neither is responsible or think of others
@@mightymouse1005 Smart thinking, Watson! You fail to pay child support and alimony, and when the sum is 100,000, you ask the judge: who has 100,000? lol
The man outraged from not being paid by Ray then proceeds to stiff the guy who delivered the debtor to him. Damn hypocrite. Victor would be justified delivering the same "justice" on him that he did on Ray.
@@geneticfreak84I thought it said he built the crib himself but I could have heard that wrong. Edit: just listened again and that’s what it said. He built her a custom crib. And it does look pretty homemade.
Agreed. You don't realize the damage you cause to someone's family when you drink and drive. In this case the guy he hit wanted revenge. Sad situation for all involved
Alcohol and drugs are the two most deadliest chemicals that lead to human tragedies. Murderers have the ability to lie and to believe their lies as well!
"Ray Wright was convicted of felony DUI and ordered to pay more than $275,000 to the victims. Placer County District Attorney Investigator Ashley Englefield said, "he had occasionally made payments on that debt, but not very much."" He didn't deserve his fate, but you can't say that Ray was a saint when he wouldn't even pay restitution to the victims he horribly impaired
Must of the cases I can’t understand the motivation behind murders but in this case… is very clear. Don’t drink and drive. Also pay the people you owe.
Yea the part where he didn’t pay was arrogant, there was no explanation as to why Ray didn’t pay and from that perspective he didn’t come across as such a nice guy. Sad story all around though
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@@MichaelWilliams-oe5rnalso in Integrity is wrong ... I think he means didn't have any integrity . I just dawned on me , I don't think English is his first language ; so I do give him credit for that actually.
Im glad i dont have drama in my life like this. Any drama i have is being so exhausted from work and health related issues. Its tough enough buying a home, paying the bills, keeping good credit. No alcohol or drug issues. Surviving cancer surgery, keeping my wife happy. I do my best to stay away from conflict and toxic people. I guess im at peace, just wish i felt better.
Keeping your wife happy? You aren't responsible for her happiness; my friend. I hope she is taking good care of you, and I hope you are in better health.
All good people sin and make mistakes. Only Jesus is perfect. A world without drugs, alcohol, hate and bitterness would be such a better place to live. This is just sad all around. Btw the murderers deserve life in prison what they did is not excusable.
How do you know? Did he turn to meth after the accident to deal with the accident? He got a divorce as well. You have to think that was 6 years in-between both incidents.
@@SidewaysInTraffic well the cops said he was a known meth dealer with several arrest records so that kind of sealed the deal for me. Clearly he was a loose canon, most people mixed up in meth usually are.
Ray had no right to decide his prison sentence was enough. He should have paid as the law required; there's no reason to think the psycho drug dealer would have come after him then.
He did not deserve to be murdered bc he failed to pay his victims of the accident! He should have secured a loan. I wonder if he would have still been murdered if he'd actually managed to pay full restitution?
Maybe he didn’t have much? Not being accountable isn’t necessarily the reason or doesn’t mean in general he wasn’t, especially in the eyes of his family. If he was this loved there’s a reason, not a saint but not a bad man. Also it didn’t look like he’s business was doing all that well or that he was swimming in money considering where he was working
What’s with the replies? The OP didn’t say he deserved death. The OP said that people described Ray as being accountable and he was not. Plain and simple. That isn’t the same thing as saying he deserved to die. Y’all need to work on reading comprehension.
@cataniamommaitalia87 Put the pipe down, but you're replying to all my comments, what does that make you LOL. She was the massage therapist that treated his injuries from the accident, listen grasshopper.
i was gritting my teeth every tiiiiiiiime she draaaaaaaawled and crooooooooaked her way through a short sentence but was like, don't be rude she's grieving 😂
The gall of Bob to feign innocence. He is tied directly to Ray by the car accident years earlier and even spoke to people about wanting revenge. He’s a sociopath who is guilty as sin.
You could argue that people who choose to endanger the lives of others by drinking and driving are sociopaths. Call an Uber. Everyone knows it’s dangerous. Ray did not care about others on the road and then hurt them more by not paying his debts to those he caused massive physical, emotional and financial lifelong disaster to.
Why do you enjoy these so much???? These are sad and/or demonic!!!! Remember not to treat these shows like entertainment!! If a crime ever happened to you people would treat your story like entertainment too!!!! Somebody actually died in order for this story to be told and you treat it like a crime sitcom!!!!
@@lamejoramor336l treat these shows as 'education'. I have learnt so much from watching them. Basic human nature, the fact that monsters walk among us, and how careful everyone has to bed in their lives so as not to get entangled in a situation that can lead to your untimely death.. l find these shows absolutely fascinating, l feel sorry for all the victims, and my eyes have been opened as to how easy it is for anyone to become a victim. A total education.
@@sent1169Okay, but how was he able to buy that expensive car and live in affluental part of the town? It doesn't sound like he was hurting for money, so why wasn't he making regular payments? He could've sold the car and get a cheaper one.
He murdered this women with his drink driving. 18 months was a silly little slap on the wrist, and he obviously didn’t take it seriously, but that man should not have killed him.
I feel bad for the Family of Ray Wright. This show is another good example to people NOT TO DRINK AND DRIVE. This shows how it can affect so many different people.
That couldve been me. 9 years ago, my church git scammed out if money by a contractor. I knew where the guy lived and couldve easily taken revenge. For what? To be locked for someone i didnt even like? Miss my daughter's wedding and granddaughters birth? No thx. God will avenge, not me
Wow, one of the best new episodes! So many ironies. One of the weirdest coincidences is that Bob Manor's girlfriend "just happened" to be living in a trailer only 30 feet from Ray Wright's workshop where he noticed Ray from her window! What are the odds? Wow!!
I saw a case with a guy that lost his legs. The woman only got 4 yrs in prison. Another woman kill3d a pregnant woman and got 14 yrs. Yeah, it’s crazy. I can see why some people may choose vengence.
Remember not to treat these shows like entertainment!! If a crime ever happened to you people would treat your story like entertainment too!!!! Somebody actually died in order for this story to be told and you treat it like a crime sitcom!!!!
@@LoveMyDaisyGirl911What do you mean “A good one.”???? Remember not to treat these shows like entertainment!! If a crime ever happened to you people would treat your story like entertainment too!!!! Somebody actually died in order for this story to be told and you treat it like a crime sitcom!!!!
I'm so glad they still convicted them with a no body case, that van was a treasure trove of damning evidence. I hope his daughter's and the rest of his family has been able to get peace throughout this horrific situation 😊
Imagine being ordered to pay a known drug dealer restitution as a result of your felony crime and then stiffing them by rarely paying. Ray made a series of bad choices and he and those who loved him paid the price. He didn't deserve his fate, but I'm mind boggled. WHO stiffs drug dealers and expects there not to be unjust consequences? My heart goes out to his family.
No, it's who stiffs the victims of YOUR actions that cause them a life time of pain. Doesn't matter drug dealer or not, pay your victims due to your bad choices.
I had a friend who had his airplane hangered at the airport in Rio Linda. This is not a town that I would ever want to drive through alone. That was 35 years ago and it was the slums, but the rent was cheap. Too bad Ray didn't have his shop in Rocklin where he lived. 😥
I personally wonder if this was intentional. He was doing cash business and avoiding W2s that would've garnished wages if the restitution was court-ordered.
Ray wasn’t completely innocent. You can’t just DUI and ruin other people’s lives, regardless if they are drug dealers or not, then say sorry and continue to live your own good life. I understand the revenge, although it’s cruel and not every DUI victim can do it.
I hate when people are like remember him as a great person yea for like 5 years but for 49 not so much which means more. Not saying he should have died but you reap what you sow tragedy on both ends but don’t paint your dad as a saint when for most of his dash he was a sinner .
And dude lived in Rocklin, had a shop, a new truck and barely made any payments to the guy? That's sickening in my OP. And NH isn't has bad as it used to be. Rio Linda & Del Paso are like South Sac now.
Did they not go to the gas station and interview the attendant or look at the security video of the purchase? I mean the soda was sweating and just purchased.
@@TNT-km2eg nope God is without time, you pray that he repented before death, thus saving his soul, you pray for his soul if in purgatory, thus reducing his time here and you pray for his family for the strength to deal with this tragedy.
I remember reading an ancient book about the dangers of too much alcohol, too much lust and , well basically everything at the root of this tragic tale...hmf...how prophetic.
The moment they mentioned the DUI, the people he crashed into and revenge, I knew that had something to do with his disappearance. So sad for his family...my condolences.
Bad people hang out with bad people. Just because they are bad people doesn’t mean they can’t be relevant witnesses. Who else would know what they know.
Im going to share a small story of my personal life. I commuted a crime at 16 that left a man paralyzed. He had kids a few years younger than me. I did my time, have moved on and live a decent life. However, I have also come to understand the life changing effects my decision that night has had on that man and his family. Therefore, now that his sons are of adult age, i know revenge must cross their mind. I told my wife if they ever get me, put the word for me that they be released
Whatever it is you're going through, DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE. It's selfish and wicked. Ray Wright might have been alive today if he didn't drink and drive. Don't fall apart, risking the lives of others you don't know or have never met by drinking and driving. If anything, fall apart with your family members around you. I understand the man wanting revenge for himself and his wife, but Ray didn't deserve what happened to him. RIP.
I feel sorry for the family. However, being quite a peaceful person, I'd think about revenge if someone hurt me or my family DUI or texting or whatever. Just don't.
Reading all the comments leave me dumbstruck. I am astounded at the many people that think revenge is acceptable, it is NOT acceptable, ever! More over it is harmful to the one wanting to exact revenge. Very few enlightened people out there. Forgiveness brings peace and happiness to the forgiver, whether deserved or not.
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Thank you so much!!! I love watching these episodes! ❤
Same here. @@youtuberwaldfee
Great idea for the family to organize a wake for him. Condolences to all.
I love watching 48 hours,well organised.
If you're wearing gloves and touching evidence you don't touch your face and hair. Extremely unprofessional.
The irony! One of Bob's big gripes was that Ray wasn't paying him what he was supposed to, and then Bob not paying Victor is basically what got him caught.
When i heard that, I thought, What Nerve! This is an example of double standards
The FIRST thing I thought of
Hilarious observation
Also my thought
Why pay a meth cooker/ dealer...wasn't he ripping off enough people/ ruining their lives?
This is like the biggest Don't Drink and Drive ad ever.
What a series of unfortunate events.
Agreed!!!
Kinda disrespectful to the family don't ya think??
@@codyviera92 to which family? The one who he injured or his? Maybe both??
To the family devastated by the loss of their father.
Don't get me wrong. Drinking and driving is terrible and leads to tragic ends. But it was just the first thing that came to my mind when I read this.
How sinister - a drug lord being upset that his life was hit with a tragedy, while usually inflicting tragedy on others.
I was thinking the exact thing. There were so many vile, evil people involved in this case, including the ones with ZERO conscience who stayed quiet, ie, Katie and the therapist girlfriend. They never heard of the Golden Rule. Scumbags!
Exactly!!! 💯
Well said!
The real Tragedy is that ALL street drugs aren't legalized Yet. If street drugs were legal, Drug Lords wouldn't even exist.
"While usually inflicting tragedy on others"? How so?
Once again drinking and driving have destroyed lives. There are no winners in this story.
None.
Just don’t drink alcohol, idk what yall get from drinking alcohol, i really don’t get it
@saimo2498 because for some of us who are mature we don't go out drinking and driving we drink on special occasions and have fun while doing it which is totally fine the idiots who drink and cause issues are pathetic I'm just glad I'm not like that .
@@shawnhall9792 i still don’t know what you get from drinking alcohol
@@saimo2498 as I stated fun you may not like it but that's you a problem
This one plays out like a movie - crazy case.
But it reminds me of the old prank call on Stern where they prank Tradio. Ray on Tradio took the day off so they keep calling and asking where's Ray, and they keep arguing with the host about Ray. Hilarious.
My thoughts also.
This real life story could easily be the next Fargo plot.
A great writer could turn this into a decent script
3 lessons..DON'T drink and drive-PAY your debts-NEVER trust a drug addict. Law Enforcement did a great job.
Very true
There is an old saying from my country that my dad says that street people use back in times: real men never trust serious issues to alcoholics, drug addicts, or gays....We live in very tough times. God protect us!
@@liurodriguez5964gays aint tryna deal with your issues either…
@@liurodriguez5964lmfao the gays part is hilarious
@@mrgonzo2139 😂😂😂My friend that’s an old saying from old people
That Meth dealer reminds me of an ex-uncle. He was the most narcissistic, drug-dealing, wife beating sociopath who denied EVERYTHING he did wrong. And he'd look you in the eye while lying!
Or did he turn that way after the accident? Near death experiences change people. They say he was a meth dealer, but was that prior to the accident or after the accident is very important detail.
Before n after n if no t before lots of ppl have life n death experiences n dnt just turn into a meth dealer. No excuses for taking that man's life. Come on now!l
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Thank you for pointing out that some of the worst most despicable Liars will look you dead in the eye .
I have been using that as one of the arguments explaining why body language is it dangerous pseudoscience because it can make innocent people look guilty and it can make guilty people look innocent .
Yeah I've noticed also that some of the biggest Liars definitely stare you straight in the eye .
@@SidewaysInTrafficno excuses, you really think he was a good person before the accident?
He was "the best he can be" after dui yet didn't pay restitution to injured victims??
Yea the best comp dodger
He did pay, just not everything at once, he most likely didn't have that kind of money.
Indeed. Seemed super sketchy. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
@@ggurksBut he didn't pay much and not regulary either?
Rio Vista isn't a big money area. I'm surprised he was doing construction there, instead of Sacramento, honestly. It's a very small population, & mostly small farmers.
Sad, you can see his first wife still loves him though they drifted apart while his daughters have this unwavering love for him
If they had stayed together as they should have maybe he'd still be here.
The first wife is way too hot for him now. lets be real.
@@gli5580What does how you perceive someone got to do with anything besides your fantasies?
@@gli5580 That shouldn't matter
God bless his sweet family ( daughters, friends, brother, and, of course, the mother of his kids). My prayer is that someone comes forward and discloses where his remains are...so that he can be properly laid to rest, in the name of Jesus. ✝️
Dont drink and drive folks.
Absolutely don't drink and drive the thing of it is regardless he did spend 18 months in jail now some may think that that's a minor sentence term but it wasn't vehicular manslaughter
I love how good of a dad he was to a non biological daughter, men like that are precious ❤ may his family find peace
It feels so good to come across a good comment like this instead of all those negative comments! That's why this world is like it is!!
Precious, uhm no
My dad was the same way with me he raised since I was 7 when my mom and I came here from Colombia. He has always been the best dad.
@@stefaniagranada5917 ❤️My ex husband raised and adopted my daughter when we were married, they are the best of friends
God, the bar for men is so low.... *eyeroll*
When you seek revenge, dig two graves. RIP Ray 🙏
So true
Revenge is not always bad.
Wise words
It’s an interesting case-one man, seemingly an all-around amazing guy, relapses and makes the worst mistake of his life, permanently altering the lives of 2 strangers for the worse. If we did not know those 2 people to be dealing meth, would 18 months seem long enough? Not me, if it were me or someone I love…the 2 people whose lives were harmed happened to make their living by supporting addiction and its cycle of loss and death in society that causes immeasurable harm…the guy who was under the influence of addiction, was the perpetrator of a terrible act, and the consequences fell on this drug lord, who felt so wronged
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Rage and revenge can tear a person apart. Taking justice on your own can have consequences. Ray had a debt to pay, and didn’t. The two convicts got what they deserved, they too took revenge on each other for a debt that was owed. No one wins.. what a tragic crime.
“Ray had a debt to pay and didn’t?” They didn’t say that. I believe they said he was behind on payments?
Food for thought… If it was $215,000 for example, or whatever it was, it could take 17+ years of paying $1000/month which most people cannot afford.
They could’ve garnished his wages, maybe they were (it wasn’t mentioned here), but if one literally cannot afford it, what do they do… bring back debtors prisons? Is that where Ray belonged?
@@SeattleRaindrop206 yes, debtors prisons are what we need today.
btw, lots of blk dudes are in prison for missing child support.
@@RichardWagner-hi4zn then how will the people get paid?
@@KageKitsunenoyami Only those go to prison who don't make great efforts to pay.
Damn I feel bad for the family. Ray didnt deseve to be killed but a part of me understands the man wanting revenge. Just a series of unfortunate events leading to a tragedy.
These are my thoughts exactly!!
Exactly. He didn’t deserve what happened to him but he wasn’t 100% innocent in the situation.
Maybe if he had paid his restitution instead of having a nice large truck. I actually don't feel sorry for him.
@@jefft8597 And he was living in Rocklin (one of the nicest parts of Sacramento) while Bob was living in the slums of North Sacramento (looks like Del Paso Heights).
Was there a reason why Ray stopped paying his victim the money he was ordered to pay? That definitely didn’t help matters
How did the cops not immediately look into the couple he hit? That was my first thought.
As soon as they had said that, he was in that car accident. That was the first thing I thought of was okay it's Them.
I wonder how common this type of vengeance/vigilante crime is. I wonder if it’s so rare (as far as a DUI incident) and that’s why they didn’t consider it so quickly 🤔
That's the likely scenario. The accident happened years earlier and it's understandable that no-one made the connection. In the end good investigative work solved the case.@@nbaoldgirl
Well, the show presents their suspects for the narrative arc but IRL, it might not have been that obvious.
@spiderwebb33, I'm guessing that since it had been 6years, it wasn't the most obvious connection. The moment the letter mentions revenge, I thought of the car accident.
This one is insane! 😱
because no one is an angel in this story; a very much disliked DUI
49ers gonna lose.
@@SpartacusErectushopefully the chiefs lose
Totally
I dislike my own comments 😅
No one deserves to die... But DUI is also unacceptable
Some do.
It was more than a DUI
I wouldn't say no one. You can see it in the news.
Oh wow.
The quickness in which I shot a prayer in your direction (and anyone within your guidance) 🙏 🏎️…💨
I had to scroll and read other people's comments. My initial gut reaction is so sad that he got killed but, damn, it sucks living with lifelong pain and, then, not even being paid properly for it. I am so sorry for everyone involved.
Yet, the guy he injured is under the influence in a high speed chase and could have killed people. Neither of these men were very responsible
Who has 275,000 dollars?
If the "victim " of accident had hurt or killed someone in his high speed chase, he wouldn't have money to pay them either.
Either way, neither is responsible or think of others
@@mightymouse1005That’s not the guy he injured.
@@mightymouse1005 Smart thinking, Watson! You fail to pay child support and alimony, and when the sum is 100,000, you ask the judge: who has 100,000? lol
A karma case study.
The man outraged from not being paid by Ray then proceeds to stiff the guy who delivered the debtor to him. Damn hypocrite. Victor would be justified delivering the same "justice" on him that he did on Ray.
Exactly. But he could afford to buy his grand daughter a custom built crib.
@@geneticfreak84I thought it said he built the crib himself but I could have heard that wrong. Edit: just listened again and that’s what it said. He built her a custom crib. And it does look pretty homemade.
Yup! He figured wtf is he going to do about it because he didn’t think he go to police cause he’d be going to jail too
This!
Which makes Victor the biggest fool of them all. Makes you wonder how people like that manage to make it to such an age as he is. Truly remarkable.
At 36:32 is talking about chopping. He could have said : "I never killed him" but he used the word "chop" as in cut into pieces.
That's because he did it
Because that was said at trial and what he was accused of saying.
Exactly what happened, both comments...☝
Yeah, he pretty much just admitted to what he did.
like pork chop! yum
Morale of the story: Don't drink and drive! RIP Ray 😢
Agreed. You don't realize the damage you cause to someone's family when you drink and drive. In this case the guy he hit wanted revenge. Sad situation for all involved
Agree! Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
Did Bob think killing Ray would get him the money he owed? Should have went through the courts.
😂😂😂😂
You summed it up well!
Alcohol and drugs are the two most deadliest chemicals that lead to human tragedies. Murderers have the ability to lie and to believe their lies as well!
you should have stayed in school a little longer. deadliest chemicals.... lol
This case is absolutely insane
Most of these episodes are foiled within the first few minutes. This one was excellent.
@@juliagulia5823yeah this can really made into a movie.
"Ray Wright was convicted of felony DUI and ordered to pay more than $275,000 to the victims. Placer County District Attorney Investigator Ashley Englefield said, "he had occasionally made payments on that debt, but not very much.""
He didn't deserve his fate, but you can't say that Ray was a saint when he wouldn't even pay restitution to the victims he horribly impaired
where on earth would he have gotten 275 thousand dollars though? Be realistic.
Literally nobody ever said he was "a saint". This entire episode is all ABOUT his bad decisions. Not sure what ur point was here.
Hard to pay money you simply don’t have.
@@SkullswithdronesinsideHe should've figured out since he thought he was so smart for drinking and driving.
DNA on the soda cup???
Did they do DNA then?
Do not drink and drive
Obvious, isn't it?
Don’t take the law into your own hands for revenge! What about that part as well ! Life has good and bad consequences!!
Dont drink drive and always pay your debts !!!
Must of the cases I can’t understand the motivation behind murders but in this case… is very clear.
Don’t drink and drive. Also pay the people you owe.
Yea the part where he didn’t pay was arrogant, there was no explanation as to why Ray didn’t pay and from that perspective he didn’t come across as such a nice guy. Sad story all around though
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If you have any problems with drugs and alcohol get treatment. Go to 12 step meetings and don’t let up even if you’re sober for years
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Go to Jesus Christ. Repent and be cleansed.
As an atheist who has been clean and sober for 15 years, 12 step programs are not for everyone. They are proven statistically to be ineffective, however, if you find them to be helpful then by all means utilize them. That being said, as someone who has gotten and maintained cleanliness and sobriety despite realizing that 12 step programs were not for me, I highly recommend getting a doctor that is an addiction specialist, or at the very least has experience with treating addiction. Then, receive a referral from them to a trauma therapist (nearly all addicts have a ton of trauma). So many people believe that their problems are a symptom of their addiction, when in actuality, their addiction is a symptom of their deep trauma. If anyone who reads this is struggling, please know that getting better absolutely IS possible and does not require any religious beliefs if religion is not for you. When I was using I truly thought that I would never recover and that my days were numbered. Here I am, 15 years later, with a life that I never thought was possible. You will need to make many sacrifices in order to recover. The biggest one for many people is no longer associating with the friends that you used with. Trust and believe, if they are truly your friends and want what is best for you they will allow you to let them go for your own wellbeing. I also do not recommend associating with anyone who is in recovery and has less than 2 years clean, as that can lead to a joint relapse. I hope that my words may help someone who is in the position that I used to be in. It is possible, it can be done. Stay strong and remember that anyone who comes for your sobriety is essentially wishing death on you. Addiction, if left untreated, is a dang near death sentence. You deserve to live.❤
Forcing people into a Christian 12 step program is not the answer. There are better programs out there
Peggy says…. You just don’t know how it impacts your family. I bet Bob could say the same thing.
Well Bob wasn't torturously murdered...so your statement doesn't even compare. Big difference!
Bob sold drugs and destroyed families and lives.
What happened to Ray wasn’t right but, he wasn’t in integrity when he didn’t pay his debit
Debt, not debit, Kalifornia Katie.😅
@@MichaelWilliams-oe5rnalso in Integrity is wrong ... I think he means didn't have any integrity .
I just dawned on me , I don't think English is his first language ; so I do give him credit for that actually.
Im glad i dont have drama in my life like this. Any drama i have is being so exhausted from work and health related issues. Its tough enough buying a home, paying the bills, keeping good credit. No alcohol or drug issues. Surviving cancer surgery, keeping my wife happy.
I do my best to stay away from conflict and toxic people. I guess im at peace, just wish i felt better.
Keeping your wife happy? You aren't responsible for her happiness; my friend. I hope she is taking good care of you, and I hope you are in better health.
Sounds much like my life. But you're not responsible for someone's happiness. You can contribute for happy moments with her but not to make her happy.
Just imagine the chances of all the chain of events coming together, Unreal.
Don’t drink & drive & pay your debts. Hate how they made ray seem to be a good person. Good people don’t put others in harms way.
Came here to say that as well
The real truth in life is that people are complex, not just good and bad, it seems like he was more good but made some bad decisions.
@@wesleydarling968This comment ❤
He just hit a bad man that has destroyed so many families.
All good people sin and make mistakes. Only Jesus is perfect. A world without drugs, alcohol, hate and bitterness would be such a better place to live. This is just sad all around. Btw the murderers deserve life in prison what they did is not excusable.
Of all the people to hit in a car, it had to be a psychopathic meth dealer. Poor Ray man 😔
That one incident changed so many peoples lives.
How do you know? Did he turn to meth after the accident to deal with the accident? He got a divorce as well. You have to think that was 6 years in-between both incidents.
@@SidewaysInTraffic well the cops said he was a known meth dealer with several arrest records so that kind of sealed the deal for me. Clearly he was a loose canon, most people mixed up in meth usually are.
Ray had no right to decide his prison sentence was enough. He should have paid as the law required; there's no reason to think the psycho drug dealer would have come after him then.
Don't drink and drive and you'll stay out of trouble. It's that simple.
@@SidewaysInTrafficlol well I mean what are you saying? he should have hit an innocent person?
Accountable.. he didn't pay the people that he hurt back. That's not accountable
He did not deserve to be murdered bc he failed to pay his victims of the accident!
He should have secured a loan.
I wonder if he would have still been murdered if he'd actually managed to pay full restitution?
Maybe he didn’t have much? Not being accountable isn’t necessarily the reason or doesn’t mean in general he wasn’t, especially in the eyes of his family. If he was this loved there’s a reason, not a saint but not a bad man. Also it didn’t look like he’s business was doing all that well or that he was swimming in money considering where he was working
I thought that too
that by no means deserves death! What planet are you from?
What’s with the replies? The OP didn’t say he deserved death. The OP said that people described Ray as being accountable and he was not. Plain and simple. That isn’t the same thing as saying he deserved to die. Y’all need to work on reading comprehension.
Why tf would that massage therapist or whatever sleep with Robert, gross af 🤣🤣
That is what I was thinking when I first saw this last weekend when they aired it on TV.
She thought he was going to get that 275K duh.
@cataniamommaitalia87 Put the pipe down, but you're replying to all my comments, what does that make you LOL. She was the massage therapist that treated his injuries from the accident, listen grasshopper.
He had money from being a drug dealer
@@pandamandimax If he's visiting a girlfriend in a trailer. I highly highly doubt he had more than a few bucks.
This is awful case. Feel very sorry for the family but the youngest daughters voice annoyed the hell out of me.
omg yes, that vocal fry 😂
OMG thank you! I fcking hate when people talk like that... It's so irritating especially mixed with that Cali accent 😂
i was gritting my teeth every tiiiiiiiime she draaaaaaaawled and crooooooooaked her way through a short sentence but was like, don't be rude she's grieving 😂
What I don't know is whether the girl's vocal fry is natural vocal tone, a medical issue, or a learned social habit!
Omg right?!
The gall of Bob to feign innocence. He is tied directly to Ray by the car accident years earlier and even spoke to people about wanting revenge. He’s a sociopath who is guilty as sin.
You could argue that people who choose to endanger the lives of others by drinking and driving are sociopaths. Call an Uber. Everyone knows it’s dangerous. Ray did not care about others on the road and then hurt them more by not paying his debts to those he caused massive physical, emotional and financial lifelong disaster to.
He was an admired person? He was an attempted murderer who got lucky because the people he hit didn’t die. He should have served life in prison
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Remember not to treat these shows like entertainment!! If a crime ever happened to you people would treat your story like entertainment too!!!! Somebody actually died in order for this story to be told and you treat it like a crime sitcom!!!!
@@lamejoramor336l treat these shows as 'education'. I have learnt so much from watching them. Basic human nature, the fact that monsters walk among us, and how careful everyone has to bed in their lives so as not to get entangled in a situation that can lead to your untimely death.. l find these shows absolutely fascinating, l feel sorry for all the victims, and my eyes have been opened as to how easy it is for anyone to become a victim. A total education.
@@lamejoramor336so why are you on here watching? If you disliked these things so much surely you wouldn't be on here 🤔
To watch and enjoy are two different things
@@TNT-km2eg but you wouldn't watch something that you didn't like so you much enjoy it or you'd watch something else.
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Ray Wright was no saint.
His DUI destroyed lives.😢😢😢
My heart goes out to his daughters😢no child has to go through that torture
As a UK fan.... I love to wake up in the morning and discover that a new episode has dropped... and it looks like a good one.... lol !!!!
Same here
That’s how I felt today! Lol. I’m addicted to 48 hours
Same!! UK viewer here too haha x
Same here, hi from Berlin
It's so sad because these are real life stories and not fiction.
He set this in motion by drinking and driving and destroying two peoples health. He can thank himself.
" My first, best and forever friend..." These beautiful thoughts and words hurt my everything. I'm sorry all that love Ray will have to miss him.
Not excusing anyone's involvement in what happened to Ray. Ray did play his own part in what happened to him by choices he made.
c'mon say it! HE HAD IT CUMIN LOL
yep horrible person had it coming, he just hurt the wrong man, and people saying he didn't have money he had a home and a truck
DUI severely punished
Ray Wright was only sentenced to 18 months in prison for the initial DUI crash that almost killed 2 people...only in f****** California.
The family never mentions the families lives that Ray ruined… maybe that was his karma
or didn't pay full restitution to.
@@stumack9755he was paying, that’s why he started the workshop after being released from prison. Maybe he couldn’t afford to pay all at once.
If Karma was real, none of us would be 😂
The families lives that Ray ruined weren't exactly stand up citizens in this world. Bob was no better than a cartel member!
@@sent1169Okay, but how was he able to buy that expensive car and live in affluental part of the town?
It doesn't sound like he was hurting for money, so why wasn't he making regular payments? He could've sold the car and get a cheaper one.
Thank you 48hours for putting this full episode on
He should have paid those he damaged with his drink driving.
18 months doesn't seem long enough
Revenge wasn’t the ANSWER!!
He murdered this women with his drink driving. 18 months was a silly little slap on the wrist, and he obviously didn’t take it seriously, but that man should not have killed him.
@laraantipova389 no one died as a result of his accident. Where did you get that??
I watch a lot of true crime this is probably one of the saddest cases I’ve watched…. Pray for strength and peace for the family
I'm what you on that one queen but I see you are a beautiful black woman and we got protect all black woman right now
@@landlordliving Lame
Which family? We can pray for all fams involved
You definitely don't watch THAT much true crime at all if this is amongst the saddest you've seen, Lol
@@landlordliving AND THEIR SMOOTH WEAVES! lol
I feel bad for the Family of Ray Wright. This show is another good example to people NOT TO DRINK AND DRIVE. This shows how it can affect so many different people.
Ray should have paid his restitution.
its insane that his alcoholism started all of this involving many people to his demise. He probably needed to go to jail to help him
These kind of toxic addictions would've ruined his family/marriage even in the first place. 2 divorces.
Insane case this should be made into a movie
probably will
Interesting, he said, "I never chopped up Ray Wright." I wonder why he would think he was chopped up.
After the fact. It’s what he was accused of
It was said at his trial.
Because he did it
@@BoKotianLundI’m not sure why so many people are having trouble understanding this. 😆
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That couldve been me. 9 years ago, my church git scammed out if money by a contractor. I knew where the guy lived and couldve easily taken revenge. For what? To be locked for someone i didnt even like? Miss my daughter's wedding and granddaughters birth? No thx. God will avenge, not me
You didn't get scammed personally son
Calm down there John Wick. Not the same thing at all. 😎✌🏻
You sound like a real nice church man lol
Wow, one of the best new episodes! So many ironies. One of the weirdest coincidences is that Bob Manor's girlfriend "just happened" to be living in a trailer only 30 feet from Ray Wright's workshop where he noticed Ray from her window! What are the odds? Wow!!
trailers can be moved
Wow this is like a plot to a movie! The way it all fit together. How horribly sad! Thankful Bob didn't try to go after his daughters or wife.
this bloke had standards. lol
His brother ... "He was my first and best forever friend" 😢 I understand and know 😭
18 months for felony DUI with serious injuries is a joke. No wonder so many people drink and drive with soft penalties like that
I saw a case with a guy that lost his legs. The woman only got 4 yrs in prison. Another woman kill3d a pregnant woman and got 14 yrs. Yeah, it’s crazy. I can see why some people may choose vengence.
💯 Such a bloody travesty!
@@marriejames01sending yourself to prison for life ain’t worth it.
I literally dropped what I was watching for this notification!! 🔔
Officially addicted to True Crime…. Thanks for the upload! ❤
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Same ❤ I kno it's going to be a good one 😁......
Now imagine something bad happening to someone close to then they take your phone to see what you have been searching😂
Remember not to treat these shows like entertainment!! If a crime ever happened to you people would treat your story like entertainment too!!!! Somebody actually died in order for this story to be told and you treat it like a crime sitcom!!!!
@@LoveMyDaisyGirl911What do you mean “A good one.”???? Remember not to treat these shows like entertainment!! If a crime ever happened to you people would treat your story like entertainment too!!!! Somebody actually died in order for this story to be told and you treat it like a crime sitcom!!!!
I'm so glad they still convicted them with a no body case, that van was a treasure trove of damning evidence. I hope his daughter's and the rest of his family has been able to get peace throughout this horrific situation 😊
That one daughter’s vocal fry made this almost unwatchable
It was terrible. That black thing in her bottom lip doesn't do her any good either.
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY. Absolutely terrible. And these young chicks think they sound so cool. Staaaaaaahp 😂 Rest In Peace Ray😢
Uggh my exact thoughts. Nails on a chalkboard. RIP Ray.
I said the exact same thing!
Wow how petty
I think Bobby lost it when he saw Ray had a shop! Bobby probably said that shyt should me mine!!
And a house too. 48 Hours never said how much he paid. My guess it was very, very little.
Imagine being ordered to pay a known drug dealer restitution as a result of your felony crime and then stiffing them by rarely paying. Ray made a series of bad choices and he and those who loved him paid the price. He didn't deserve his fate, but I'm mind boggled. WHO stiffs drug dealers and expects there not to be unjust consequences? My heart goes out to his family.
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No, it's who stiffs the victims of YOUR actions that cause them a life time of pain. Doesn't matter drug dealer or not, pay your victims due to your bad choices.
I usually feel some empathy for the victims but not in this case
I had a friend who had his airplane hangered at the airport in Rio Linda. This is not a town that I would ever want to drive through alone. That was 35 years ago and it was the slums, but the rent was cheap. Too bad Ray didn't have his shop in Rocklin where he lived. 😥
I personally wonder if this was intentional. He was doing cash business and avoiding W2s that would've garnished wages if the restitution was court-ordered.
THAT IS WHAT DRINKING AND DRIVING AND KILLING PEOPLE OR ALMOST KILLING PEOPLE BY DRINKING AND DRIVING MAY HAPPENS ...
Ray wasn’t completely innocent. You can’t just DUI and ruin other people’s lives, regardless if they are drug dealers or not, then say sorry and continue to live your own good life. I understand the revenge, although it’s cruel and not every DUI victim can do it.
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He committed a crime, a felony, which did terrible damage. But we don't have the death penalty for that crime.
Well the drug dealer guy ruined his own life further by trying to be vigilant & dragged another guy into his own beef.
I grew up 30 minutes away from Sac and Rocklin - this one truly hits home. My heart truly goes out to the family of Ray. RIP.
North Highlands here
Auburn 👋
Fair Oaks, here.
Placerville
Skip to 3:14 if you don’t want the entire story spoiled by the cable tv intro they refuse to cut off the front.
Thank you
Holy cow! That vocal fry in those girls.
Yes…was looking for this…the brunette …my stars
Hate it! So annoying.
Drove me crazy
Scrolled for this
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I hate when people are like remember him as a great person yea for like 5 years but for 49 not so much which means more. Not saying he should have died but you reap what you sow tragedy on both ends but don’t paint your dad as a saint when for most of his dash he was a sinner .
When they said his vehicle was found in North Highlands, I immediately knew something was up! I stay away from that part of town!
But he was killed in a nice part of town 😅
@@WaveTV-n8n glad you get joy in someone losing their life. 🤡
And dude lived in Rocklin, had a shop, a new truck and barely made any payments to the guy? That's sickening in my OP. And NH isn't has bad as it used to be. Rio Linda & Del Paso are like South Sac now.
@SidewaysInTraffic what does any of that have to do with what I said 🤔
@@QueenSugar72 I said NH isn't as bad as it used to be, you and the lady on the episode are making it sound like it's Iraq.
Did they not go to the gas station and interview the attendant or look at the security video of the purchase? I mean the soda was sweating and just purchased.
This cup is so generic it could have been from any gas station
It's not going to tell them where Ray is. This was two days after his disappearance
Yeah sounds like the thing to do
@@Marlainait would show the soda purchase - who bought it - and possibly the vehicle.
It would have to be one of the close stations due to the ice still being cold. So each of those stations must be checked.
Don't drive inebriated!!! Ever!!! That's the moral of the story.
R.I.P. Ray 🕊️ My thoughts & prayers go out to his family & friends.
(Edit: why do the freaks always find my comment section? 😭)
You and likes of you should be praying , begging and pleading before the fact , not after . Not that it makes any difference
Yea, he is not a saint but didn't deserve to die
@@Savage-kn5kpnot a single person on earth is a saint.
@@TNT-km2eg nope God is without time, you pray that he repented before death, thus saving his soul, you pray for his soul if in purgatory, thus reducing his time here and you pray for his family for the strength to deal with this tragedy.
@@Savage-kn5kptheologically this is incorrect.
What a heart aching episode 💔
I remember reading an ancient book about the dangers of too much alcohol, too much lust and , well basically everything at the root of this tragic tale...hmf...how prophetic.
Amen 🙏🏼💯
So tragic. I pray his daughters can find peace.
Damn Ray I wish you were more consistent with your restitution payments
I think it was more than that. An 18 month sentence for nearly killing two people is ridiculous and only happens in CA.
@@marygoff3332and for clarity I just summed it up as the ‘restitution payments’ because it was like insult to injury-literally.
@@marygoff3332in England the sentences are even more pathetic
I’m not saying it’s right but I understand it.
Do I have this correct? Ray didn't pay Bob all his money. Then Bob didn't pay Victor his money. The fall of humanity MONEY, POWER and GREED. WOW!
The moment they mentioned the DUI, the people he crashed into and revenge, I knew that had something to do with his disappearance.
So sad for his family...my condolences.
Bad people hang out with bad people. Just because they are bad people doesn’t mean they can’t be relevant witnesses. Who else would know what they know.
Im going to share a small story of my personal life. I commuted a crime at 16 that left a man paralyzed. He had kids a few years younger than me. I did my time, have moved on and live a decent life. However, I have also come to understand the life changing effects my decision that night has had on that man and his family. Therefore, now that his sons are of adult age, i know revenge must cross their mind. I told my wife if they ever get me, put the word for me that they be released
Sounds nice but we don’t get to make those decisions like that, it’s all about courts/jury-law&order.
@@_nick_d Nor should we make them.
Whatever it is you're going through, DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE. It's selfish and wicked. Ray Wright might have been alive today if he didn't drink and drive. Don't fall apart, risking the lives of others you don't know or have never met by drinking and driving. If anything, fall apart with your family members around you. I understand the man wanting revenge for himself and his wife, but Ray didn't deserve what happened to him. RIP.
REVENGE is never okay no matter what the situation or problem! Ray was punished by the law and money won’t dull the pain either!
I feel sorry for the family. However, being quite a peaceful person, I'd think about revenge if someone hurt me or my family DUI or texting or whatever. Just don't.
Don't drink n drive I don't feel sorry for those who do.
So..all these women say how fantastic he was as a father..but then they divorced him?
I love the music of 48 hours!!!
Thank you for your show. I enjoy this channel so much.
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Yeah it is very unique and probably the best song for any of these type shows
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I agree!
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@@Odanti Yep , it's very different yet so appropriate with a touch of class because of the choice of musical instruments .
PEGGY GUESS WHAT ITS NOT ALL ABOUT YOU GIRL. RAY SEVERELY INJURED TWO PEOPLE WITH HIS SELFISH NEGLIGENCE
A little different than intentional homicide
@@egil9859 AND SO WHAT
@@egil9859ITS ALL RELEVANT THOSE TWO PEOPLE WERE KNOCKING ON HEAVENS DOOR. CLOSE TO HOMICIDE
No sympathy for DUI drivers from me...
exactly! crashed head on.... Mrs. nearly lost her life.... then not paying up at least....ugh
Reading all the comments leave me dumbstruck. I am astounded at the many people that think revenge is acceptable, it is NOT acceptable, ever! More over it is harmful to the one wanting to exact revenge. Very few enlightened people out there. Forgiveness brings peace and happiness to the forgiver, whether deserved or not.
I feel terrible for the loss of both who passed. The two men in prison also lost the rest of their life in a way. ,🙏
I've been waiting so patiently for this!!! ❤