Two Years Wearing the Flannel-Lined Waxed Trucker Jacket from Huckberry's Flint and Tinder

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  • @MikeAlvarado
    @MikeAlvarado 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saw a video about a week ago and didn't know about the sale, got a wool and a flannel one for me and also a flannel one for a friend. Thanks for your reviews and videos, really helpful !

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are welcome! And tough luck! I did the exact same thing with this one 2 years ago... Bought just 2 weeks early! Cheers mate!

  • @jefferys9593
    @jefferys9593 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love these follow up videos

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you like 'em! As the channel (and my wardrobe) ages there will be a lot more long-term follow ups like this on jackets and boots.

  • @megasoid
    @megasoid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Congratulations on addressing your health, and kudos to a jacket which has stood the test of time very well. Thanks!

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much. That means a lot! Happy to be healthier (and look better) for my fam!

  • @calebfoster552
    @calebfoster552 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video and awesome job on your weight loss, I have been on that same journey over the last 5 years

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, brother! It's a constant thing! When working from home at the start of the pandemic, that's where I decided to make a change. Still trying to drop about 13 lbs more (175 is my ideal weight) and that's proving pesky as I'm about to turn 40... :)

  • @jeffgrantMEDIA
    @jeffgrantMEDIA 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video man! I have only had mine about a year, but when I wear it, I wear it all day. So I have a bot more patina. But I agree with you, unless you wear it for 10 years, or work in the jacket... you will never get it to look like the aged version in the ads. I did notice the unlined version definitely develops a patina much faster than the flannel lined.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey Jeff! Thanks for stopping by! Glad to hear about the unlined. Been wearing that a lot this fall. And glad yours is coming along nicely!

  • @bootsjeansandtheoddwatch
    @bootsjeansandtheoddwatch 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Looks awesome!

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, broski!!

  • @skeeter2136
    @skeeter2136 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was hoping they did a Black Friday sale and had more of a discount on this. I had to order one yesterday once I saw your community post.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah, unfortunately that's it! I think they might do a 20-25% sale on actual BF but the waxed trucker is omitted, at least it was last year.

    • @bearsfan38865
      @bearsfan38865 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I was able to pick up the wool lined for $304 before tax! I had actually bought it a few days prior to the sale and they refunded me $57 back. Great customer service!

  • @davepaek5014
    @davepaek5014 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ha! This was my first purchase from huckleberry from a few years ago as well. Love this jacket.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah it's a good'n! Thanks, Dave!!

  • @MichaelHsu95
    @MichaelHsu95 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video! Loving your content. I have a lot to learn from you, keep it up!

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks a lot, Michael! We can always learn from each other!

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey, Michael! I didn't realize you had a channel somehow! I just sub'd! :)

    • @MichaelHsu95
      @MichaelHsu95 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rockymtnstyle thank you so much, means a lot. Also subscribed to you!! Keep up the awesome videos 🔥

  • @Christopher_Stead
    @Christopher_Stead 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Such a great jacket. I still remember the day I first came across it and knew I had to get it. It was also my first “Americana” heritage style purchase, as well as my most expensive purchase at that point, and a bit of a risk buying online to New Zealand. But it’s the item I credit with developing the style I like, and I’m grateful to FnT for that! It’s not super breathable, but it’s damn comfy😊

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the story, Christopher! Mine is so close to yours. Glad to have you on this journey with me! And yes, that took a lot of risk sending down to New Zealand, but no risk no reward! Good on ya, mate!

    • @lx_anda
      @lx_anda 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm also from NZ and about to take the leap and buy this jacket after eying it for quite a while. I'm looking forward to it arriving!

  • @Harris_Smith
    @Harris_Smith 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think I'm going with the Thursday jacket size large. I want to be able to wear flannel shirts and hoodies underneath. You had mentioned the sleeve bunching in your comparison video of the two. I went back and rewatched given the Huckberry sale ending tonight.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the heads up! Glad you got some value out of it! I agree completely with your choice given your parameters. For future consideration, the wool-lined F&T has the poly sleeves that are easy to get arms in and out of..👍

  • @nathankettle357
    @nathankettle357 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Got the same jacket same color. I would have got the Havana too. I work on a farm and got a dark patina in one week. After hauling dirt and using a post hole digger thousands of times in a few days got the collar, sleeves and belly super dark.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ahh nice! yeah - you've got the right idea there! Cheers mate!

  • @mikemenard1124
    @mikemenard1124 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video. I have just bought myself one of these beauties.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Awesome and congrats! What color did you go with?

    • @mikemenard1124
      @mikemenard1124 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rockymtnstyle I went with field tan ... But I am almost certain I will be buying the Havana version before very long too. I'm a bit of a Barbour freak - I'm not even sure how many I have (10?) and am really looking forward to seeing how they compare. Thanks again for the video!

  • @josephcase7004
    @josephcase7004 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. I appreciate this type of content where we get a look a what our future potential purchases will look and feel like after a couple of years of wear. Definitely want to see what the jacket looks like after you re-wax. I’m torn between this and the Thursday waxed jacket for Xmas this year.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks, Joseph! Glad you like this type because there's a lot more of this sort of stuff coming. Now that I'm over 1 year on the channel and have some good items going back 2 years or more, I'll be doing regular updates on the more popular boots and jackets as they age. Lemme know if there's anything specific you ever want to see an update on!

    • @GTX260M
      @GTX260M 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      leave a review on which one you decided on getting ;)

    • @josephcase7004
      @josephcase7004 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I pulled the trigger on the Thursday in Olive. Love the jacket. I typically wear XL in jackets and shirts, so I ordered that size. Arm and body length when standing straight were snug, but good length. However, my chest size is a bit too big for the XL and Thursday is recommending XXL. Exchange in process now to see if the bigger size makes it more livable.

  • @jorge23483
    @jorge23483 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've got the forest green early this year, and was pleased with the color (a deep dark green), the quality and weight of the jacket, the only thing is still a little nuisance is the length of the sleeves but is just a minor issue. I most say, the patina almost instantly appeared with a couple of times after weared it, I think the dark colors like forest green, charcoal and maybe brown habana are more susceptible to show the kind of "pull up" I see as patina. Overall pretty satisfied with this jacket and thinking in getting one in charcoal in near future.
    Thank you for the video.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for sharing, Jorge! I think you're totally right about the darker colors showing that type of patina very early on. With this Field Tan, it's pretty much "get it dirty" and then that's your patina! Lol! Cheers, mate!

  • @CounterC
    @CounterC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve got the Light Grey flannel lined and Forest Green wool lined versions. They both looked worn even when brand new. Tan is a different deal and still the classic color. Your tan looks great even without the patina you want. Glad your channel is growing and going strong. You’re still my favorite heritage style channel.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much for that... Means a lot! I'll do my best to keep bringing decent content! What sort of content is your fav that I do? (And thanks for the note about this jackets)

    • @CounterC
      @CounterC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well, I know your comparison vids (flannel shirts and heavyweight tees) were not the most watched. Still, they were very useful. I think branching out into reviewing high end clothing works well. To me it’s important not to veer too far away from “manly” heritage clothing or accessories. Granted, TH-cam is crowded with similar channels but your straightforward and down-to-earth reviews will garner views overtime. I would not stray too much from heritage styles. Huckberry has added a huge number of “foo-foo” stuff to their product offerings over the past year. I think it hurts the exclusivity of thier brands.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for taking the time for this thorough response. I definitely gravitate towards the heritage stuff, I think that's obvious. I think I recall you mentioning the hw tee/flannel thing before, and I appreciate it. They are relatively easy to make from a time perspective so I'll probably keep feathering them in as I get new stuff in. For example, I need to do that Iron Heart flannel soon! :) Just curious, what sort of things do you consider "foo-foo" from HB? I find myself drawn to that sort of stuff sometimes if I'm being honest... especially during spring/summer. Hah !:)

    • @CounterC
      @CounterC 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huckberry now sells scarves, slippers, watches, sandals, and a variety of camping gear and kitchen gadgets. Granted, most of us are office workers who will never see a ranch or farm. Still, heritage clothing creates the feeling of authenticity. I want to buy from a retailer that sells boots instead of slippers and flannel shirts instead of wine coolers or swim trunks. It makes me turn from Huckberry to Freenote Cloth or Taylor & Stitch who seem more authentic because of their more narrow heritage used product line. I also think it keeps management more focused on their core customers and stuff like quality and inventory control

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ahh I gotcha. Yeah - that makes total sense. They do have a dual-personality it seems, which I never thought of. One one hand, they have in-house Flint & Tinder which has some really cool, made in the US heritage pieces and other stuff. Then, they have Huckberry the growing online retailer selling $600 pizza ovens. I can totally see where you're coming from; for me though, I just try to take it piece by piece and understand that they're basically running 2 companies in one. Funny, too, they have a long-standing partnership with TS it seems where HB offers ALMOST all of the TS line. Thanks for the chat, mate! I'm off to the dentist... yuck.

  • @StrayReviews
    @StrayReviews 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Makes me wish I would have gotten the field tan. Looks great!

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thx! Maybe it's a grass is greener thing! What color did you go with?

    • @StrayReviews
      @StrayReviews 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rockymtnstyle I have one in olive green (they don't sell that one anymore) and one in navy.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I remember the navy now! I really want them to do an unlined in navy. That's my fav configuration of the 3. Goes so perfect with a heavy flannel down to 40 or so.

    • @StrayReviews
      @StrayReviews 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rockymtnstyle That would be a great configuration!

  • @bonecollector1968
    @bonecollector1968 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My jacket only started getting a patina after i waxed it with otter wax. The wax picks up dust and other crap, and becomes alot like the pic from HB. Im active outside also that helps. If you are only wearing it to the office and back you wont get a decent patina. I mean, patina is basically dirt. Good luck👍

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the comment! I've got my Otter Wax bought and ready to go for the re-waxing! Yeah - I try to wear this anytime I DO go and do outdoorsy stuff, which is sometimes, but mostly "city" wear, so I'm not expecting to look like the picture... and I think most folks are closer to "city" than "outdoors" these days! Thanks again!

  • @SuperBizalz
    @SuperBizalz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah, the medium is a perfect size for you. Better than a large would’ve been for sure.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for the confirmation! Appreciate it!

  • @Area51Gr74
    @Area51Gr74 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Mine is in the color Forest, I have been wearing it for about a year now but looks like i have ZERO patina thus far. Thanks for the update Patrick. use a bar of wax. Medium looks good on you, i am 6,2 and i wear a Large.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey! Thanks for the confirmation on size. I really like that forest color, but I'd assume since it's darker it'll probably be even tougher to get it to patina up. Cheers, mate!!

  • @jackwilliamson1929
    @jackwilliamson1929 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They're great jackets, looks great on you. I think you got the best color. The darker colors aren't as dressy if you want to look dressy so I think the color you got is more likely to go with any kind of pants and shirts. Yeah it will take you a century to get that patina the one you showed has, maybe if you wear it through a zombie war though that could speed it up.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hah! I agree - zombie war would get me there faster! Planning a re-wax soon... gonna see how that goes. Thanks again, Jack!

  • @frankfrank1364
    @frankfrank1364 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for this review. I recently discovered about this jacket (through The Last of Us tv show) and been wondering how it holds up. I have a similar frame so if the medium fits fine with you, then I'll have no problem getting that size.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are welcome, Frank! Glad you found it helpful. I'll be doing a rewaxing video here in the next 10 days or so, also!

  • @jackwilliamson1929
    @jackwilliamson1929 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh about the rewaxing, I've been thinking about mixing in some reuzel pink pomade with the Filson oil wax, because the reuzel smells freakin amazing and the thought of a whole jacket that smells like it is tempting as hell and I figure why not mix in something that smells great as these jackets will pick up odors especially if you're around cigars or camp fires and you don't want to wash them so an essential oil or other type of already infused wax like the reuzel makes sense to me. Girls like the reuzel smell so that doesn't hurt.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a cool idea! I've got some Ruezel matte styling paste... never smelled it (and I have bad smell) but I'm going to next time I use it! HAH! But yeah - great point about the odors and lack of washing. I'd never considered it.

  • @erikk.5202
    @erikk.5202 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sure, first tell us these are 15% off then later on you do a video of the jacket. Rubbing it in I see. 😅
    Great review Patrick. One of these days I will pick this jacket up. I would probably go with a darker color like the Havana as you mentioned you kind of wish you did. Still a great looking jacket in that color. Super cool.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Grinders gotta grind! Ha!! Most definitely, I think the other colors are far more interesting.

  • @bygonebob
    @bygonebob 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who says it’s too small on you? That size medium looks PERFECT! If those shoulder seams didn’t sit anywhere near the edge or at the edge of your shoulders like they are now then that would have looked small on you. I’m also 5’8 and weigh 160ish and this video now has got me thinking about sizing down to a small because I wanted the hem a little bit higher and the sleeves shorter. Anyway, thanks for sharing this. 👍 God bless.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much for saying so. The one guy was saying b/c the buttons and placket didn't hang straight up and down the shoulders were too small... got me a bit self-conscious at first but I think it's good! :) Yeah - 160 you could probably do a small as long as you're good with not layering a bunch of hoodies and whatnot under it. I think these things look better a little fitted anyways! God bless you also!

  • @sushanmodak
    @sushanmodak 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Patina happens from repeated waxing and rewaxing. Was it every year with gold Label Wax and see the magic happens :)

  • @bladerealm124
    @bladerealm124 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been waiting for them to restock the black color forever. Of course it's the only one still sold out during the sale too 😒

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doh!! Hold the line!! Always better to wait for exactly what you want. Cheers man.

    • @LaCheeserie
      @LaCheeserie 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I will wait it out until next years sale, unless it goes on sale in other time

  • @yomamahasakeenfashionsense4287
    @yomamahasakeenfashionsense4287 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wax that sucka. I’ve had that same jacket, in a darker brown, for three years. I’ve used Otter Wax in bar form, a hair dryer, and some time. I go heavy on the wax on heated fabric. Hang it for a day, hit it again with a hair dryer in sections, and buff off any excess wax before it cools with something lint free, and cotton. I have done it twice since I got it. Damn near looks like leather.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Planned on doing it late winter, but now I've put it off until late summer... I've have it re-waxed and ready to go for Fall! :)

  • @DrJones-wi4rs
    @DrJones-wi4rs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am 1.76 cm long and a normal posture. Im going for the Small. I like it when its not to baggy. Is that a good choise? Nice video thank you

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for the comment. How much do you weigh?

    • @DrJones-wi4rs
      @DrJones-wi4rs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I am 75 kg

  • @fernandogalvez9805
    @fernandogalvez9805 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does the collar still stands still on its own? Like when you unfold it and bring it up so it covers your neck? Or because the wax is almost gone it does not do that anymore?

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good question. I had to go check. Yes it still stands. Not super hard core, but it stands!

    • @fernandogalvez9805
      @fernandogalvez9805 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rockymtnstyle nice! I got one 6 months ago and it still stands but I figured that it will stop doing that eventually. Well, I will re-wax when te time comes. Thanks for this video! Super helpful.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sure thing brother!!

  • @davidmacy2252
    @davidmacy2252 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I look forward to the re-waxing....I'm wavering on whether I want to or not?

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think if I didn't have the channel I wouldn't go to the trouble but I think it'll be fun to do it and help some folks out!

    • @Area51Gr74
      @Area51Gr74 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Huckberry can re-wax it for you.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How did I not know this? Ha! I'll ask the guys about it before I do the video.

  • @traveller09
    @traveller09 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How many times have you waxed it? I would imagine more waxing adds to the patina? I have had mine over a year and it needs a waxing so we will see

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Haven't re-waxed it yet. Will be doing it soon, though, and filming a video for it. I agree and think you're right. More wax means more dirt gets held in place which means more patina. I think the longer lasting patina comes from the canvas wearing in and abrading and getting discolored due to that and long-term exposure... I guess we'll see! Thanks man!

    • @traveller09
      @traveller09 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rockymtnstyle I just rewaxed my coat. It looks closer to the picture, a little more patina. Note, I used way too much wax, note to remember for next time.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ahh, cool stuff... when I do mine I'll try to go a little lighter!

  • @AndyAdventuring
    @AndyAdventuring 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ride a motorcycle and that jacket will patina at 10x the speed.

    • @AndyAdventuring
      @AndyAdventuring 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is my Rogue Territory after maybe 8-ish months: i.imgur.com/QAvPwP5.jpg
      The back is quite a bit cleaner because it doesn't receive the dirt, smog, etc. the front does.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DUDE! That thing looks amazing! Thanks for sharing!

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wish! When I was in my 20s I had a CBR600RR, but staring down 40 I think my time has passed. I'm a bit clumsier now, too! Although I do still have my endorsement on my license, so I'll never say never... :)

    • @David.Horne72
      @David.Horne72 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah and zero protection, when you go down

  • @alloyrocker
    @alloyrocker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You can't really get that look in just 2 years. A patina has to be earned. City life at least 5 years..a more country life...maybe 2-3.

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You are 100% correct! I'm not even sure I'd get to that marketing photo in 5 years of city life, but I'll keep doing annual updates here on the channel, so it'll be fun to try! :) Thanks for the comment!

    • @alloyrocker
      @alloyrocker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rockymtnstyle like the idea of annual updates. Good luck!

  • @dazlarg
    @dazlarg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What chest size are you bud?

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      About 43.5 inches around. 👍👍

    • @dazlarg
      @dazlarg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rockymtnstyle aha so I’m a 43 chest so do you think a medium would be better for me then? Can you get a sweatshirt under a medium.. or a denim shirt? The sizing on the website say I should be a large at 43 inches ?.. it’s confusing

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah this website isn't great I agree. No on the sweatshirt. I bought mine to wear over t-shirts or thin/medium button downs. Also, if you are taller than me, say 5 10 or more, I'd go large. I also chose medium so the sleeves would be proper length for me at 5'8.5"

    • @dazlarg
      @dazlarg 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@rockymtnstyle I’m 5 10 and quite muscular as I train .. so quite big arms too.. but I do t want the jacket look too baggy and worry the large may carry too much material around the waist area.. equally I need it to go over my arms also. Have you tried a large ? I wonder if there is much difference between the two sizes?

    • @rockymtnstyle
      @rockymtnstyle  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have a large in the wool lined. I have a video on that as well if you want to see how that fits me. It's quite a bit bigger... hmm... yeah I think you're right on the edge where M or L can both work, just depends on if you want a slimmer fit or a bigger fit. If you have big arms, though, I doubt the medium would work with a sweatshirt or sweater. The sleeves are also flannel lined so its harder to slide in and out.