Just a NOTE for anyone considering. I installed (1) 12 volt 125 amp/h for main battery and (3) of the 12 volt 50 amp/hour a year ago along with the power pole charge. 21' BassCat Puma, 36 volt Ultrex, Helix 7 and 12 at helm, Helix 12 and 10 on bow, Hydrowave, and lots of lights. Mega 360, (2) 10' blades on back, and Merc 250 ProXs 2 stroke. Unbelievable how it changed my boat (had to relearn how to drive it)! Hole shot is ridiculous now. I replaced (4) lead acid 31 series, probably shed close to 200lbs. It use to struggle getting out the hole on warm days here in Texas. I have fished 12 hour tourneys (without running the main motor much) with lots of wind and I have never seen them go below 45% charge! And, I never turn off any of the 4 graphs, 360, or the hydrowave. If you can afford it, they are worth every penny! Game changer for me. A year in and I really can't think of one negative. I am not paid by Ionic, Humminbird, Power Pole, or anybody unfortunately, lol, just highly impressed! Hope this helps some of you if you are considering pulling the trigger!
That’s awesome, good to know!...I actually just got a 2nd 12v 125ah for my graphs since I run dual 12’s at wheel and dual 16’s at bow with Active Target....and I got a 3rd 50ah to turn the Ghost into a 36v too, so I should be set...thanks for the feedback!
@@NitroZ18Fishing so did you go with another 125ah because one wasn't enough I run 4 12 solix mega 360 and powerpoles no power pole charge interested but if gonna take 2 batteries then probably not gonna do it
@outrage fury, I got the 2nd 125ah just to isolate my graphs and Active Target, I wanted to rule out any and all chances of interference from anything else on cranking battery, that’s really the only reason I added it...hope that helps!
Dude - what a great video. Informative and SO refreshing to see a normal guy. No annoying “youtuber” schtict or the lame youtuber comedy. Just fantastic info and enjoyable to listen to. Great channel my friend and a huge thanks for all this valuable info 👍🏼🤜🏻
About ready to pull the trigger on the ionic batteries and charger for my 2016 Skeeter ZX250 talked to the ionic customer service they recommended three 50Ah and one 125Ah for cranking.
Awesome video. BUT.... where can we get the terminal covers (seems like those fit perfectly for these batteries) and where can we get the terminal extenders?
Be curious to hear top end results! Most tin rigs lose 4mph due to less bow rise. I’ve not read any negative reviews on these batteries. Actually gonna put them in my tin rig.
Take my 130lb brother off the back. It won’t effect my ride or top end. After 3500 rpms your eating double the gas from 4 mpg to 2 or 7 mikes per hour vs 15mikes per hour
Great video. I’m really looking hard at these Ionic batteries. I have a Nitro ZV21 with a 350 Verado. My batteries shot craps after bringing it out of storage. Need a total of 5 batteries. OUCH 😣. Will my two Genius Gen 2 charger’s be compatible with these Ionic batteries?
Thanks David, I appreciate that!…according to their website the Gen 2 chargers are compatible with Lithiums, you’re gonna love them…I’ve been blown away at how much better they are than standard batteries, I’ll never go back!
Thanks Chris!!…got them from www.lithiumhub.com, I love em…they’re listed under “accessories” if I remember correctly…let me know if ya can’t find em and I’ll get the direct link for ya!
Hey great video once again. I have the same boat 2021 with 175pro sx. Just love it. Just picked up a 100ah ionic today for my crank and electronics, charging as we speak. Tried to personalize mine but the 0000 code says invalid. Also have 2 60ah dual purpose for my 24v altrex. Would of went with all ionic but thats another story. Still have to hook it all up and can't wait to try it this spring. Tight lines
Thanks Joe, I appreciate it!…did you get the code thing figured out?…that’s strange, if it doesn’t work I would contact them, maybe they changed the code?…let me know how ya make out!
Thank you sir!…so I’ve been running my Charge with 3 trolling batteries…I’ve only had that 1 single issue that I released a video on, other than that it’s been working great!
I am getting ready to install the charge on my boat. I have Ionics as well and they have been awesome. My setup is 125ah and 3 50ah for troller. Have you had any issues with in not charging the Ionics good? I heard some talk about it not working well with Ionics.
I can't answer for him, but I will say that the salesman for Ionic told me to go with 1 battery (36V) for my setup because I have the Power Pole Charge and he said the Charge doesn't like 3 - 12V lithium setups. I have researched a lot with mixed comments on results. I ended up with the one 36V 50aH trolling motor battery. I am installing this week. We shall see how it performs with the Power Pole Charge.
Great video! I am trying to take the leap to lithium as well ~ continuing to go back and forth on the 12v 100ah vs. 12v 50 ah for my Terrova 80 lb trolling motor. What made you stick with the 50ah?
Thanks man, I appreciate it!…I decided on the 50’s after talking to a number of people about the performance…they’re more than enough as far as endurance, I have another video on the channel showing how well they perform on the water (with the Power Pole Charge) if ya wanna check it out!…I can fish 2-3 days (depending on conditions of course) without having to worry about plugging in…hope that helps!
Yes sir, both apps have the battery gauges…not sure if I would say one is better than the other, but I do find myself using both…the Ionic app just gives ya slightly different info as well as the battery gauge, so I do love the Ionic app…but the Charge app shows the “flow” of energy which is neat as well, so they’re both good in their own ways…comes down to personal preference I guess!…thanks for watching!
Is it true lithium pro batterys 36v 40 volt while useing the power pole charge, only gains a few minutes of power on a run? You can’t gain a hour of trolling motor charge while running the boat for 30 mins ex? If your battery is dead, Can you run boat to charge trolling Moter batteries or no? Nobody can seem to answer a question I have. I have a 21ft flats boat and fish in wind and current ex ex. What battery should I get for a 36v 112 minnkotta Terrova? Thank you I’m trying to order something today
Hey Anthony!…I don’t know much about Lithium Pro brand, but I can tell ya I’m blown away at the performance of the Power Pole Charge with these Ionics…basically how it works is there is a slider in the app for the Charge, you can choose if you want it to focus more on charging your cranking battery, your trolling batteries, or share the power…I keep mine in the “shared” position and I absolutely love it…it will charge trolling motor batteries and keep them topped off but then send remaining power to cranking battery…it will do this while running with big motor as well…I can literally fish 2 full days and not have to worry about plugging in…hope that helps!
Yes sir, 50ah setup is plenty!...I did however add a 3rd to the mix, check out my video I posted showing the on the water performance of the batteries, it’s unbelievable!
Great video bro....I tried looking up terminal adapter and extenders and I can't seem to find them anywhere. Do you think you can provide a link? Thanks!!
@@NitroZ18Fishing thanks brotha...hopefully I'll get some litiums soon. My current charger I have at the moment is the DeltaVolt ps3 Professional series. Idk if that will work for lithiums tho.
no prob!...I'm not familiar with that charger, best thing to do is call up the company directly and ask...last thing ya'd wanna do is ruin a lithium with the incorrect charger!...haha
Smokn Aces call Dualpro, make sure you have your serial number; you can find the SN on a tag that's connected to the power cable. I have a PS4, 2017 model, it will charge Lithium, but I need to send it in to Dualpro so they can change the charge profile to accommodate Lithium. I haven't decided yet if I'm going to do that.
Love it, it has far exceeded my expectations!…I actually have my electronics on their own, I have a different video on channel showing the setup on the water and how it performs, it’s insane how long they last!
How have the batteries been doing ? I was ready to pull the trigger on two for my ultrex but after emailing them a little I was told that two 50 amp hour batteries wouldn’t be sufficient for my trolling motor.
Unfortunately I live in NE PA so our lakes are frozen, I haven’t been able to put em to the test just yet...but I think it all depends on boat size and waters you fish...I’ve talked to countless people before I pulled trigger, and a lot of them run dual 50ah with no issues at all...if you have a bigger boat (20-21 footer) you may want to add a 3rd or jump to 100ah...or if you fish a lot of river water where you’re fighting current all day...if not I would think the 2 50’s would be sufficient...I’ll be keeping the channel updated on their performance as soon as the ice is gone!
FYI, I got the Ionics from Andy at Drewcraft, and the PP Charge from Kevin at K and K Customz. I did hours of research before finding them on the BBC boards. Killer prices and even gave me a first responder/fire fighter discount. Both seemed like super cool stand up guys!
I would have put the batteries in the port (left) corner to avoid having to remove them if you needed to access the bilge to clear a bilge pump or other service.
I thought about that, but honestly these things are so light I won’t even care...hahaha...I may move em after I see how performance is but I wanted to try it with the weight centered...I’ll keep the channel updated, thanks for watching!
Would this system be overkill for 2 garmin graphs, and a 24v 80lb Minn Kota Terrova. It’s on a 17.5 Bass Tracker. I’m thinking I wouldn’t need the 125ah Cranking Batt I could go with the 100ah.??? Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Yea you should be more than ok with a 100ah for cranking and 2 of these 50ah for trolling motor!...if you fish really long days (12 hours plus) or fish a lot of current I would maybe go to the 125, but I think you’ll be fine either way...hope that helps!
Not at all, I’ve talked to countless people who are using this exact battery with Mercs up to 250 and haven’t heard of a single issue...I did a ton of research before pulling the trigger, this particular Lithium is equivalent to 900cca’s...plenty to turn her over, but I’ll be keeping the channel updated if any issues arise!
@@NitroZ18Fishing Thanks. I have no doubt about the power. I fear the rumored shut down while on plane. Can't wait for Merc to officially approve them.
yea I know some companies are starting to release lithiums made for cranking, if anything happens with these I'll make the switch and let everyone know for sure!
@@NitroZ18Fishing my concern that nobody mentions is that lithium batteries are very hard on the alternator. I contacted Ionic and they couldn't give me any answer other than lots of people are using them. The good thing about these is that you can monitor how much amperage they are taking from the alternator and potentially burning it up. Did any of the people you talked to mention watching the charging current to see if it was pulling too much?
I didn't ask about that specifically but I haven't heard of anyone having any issues with using this Ionic for a cranking battery and running into problems...and I've talked to a lot of people before I pulled the trigger!...I'll keep you guys posted for sure if I run into any issues!
Anyone running 2 12v 50ah lithiums? I have a 24V fortrex on 19 1/2 foot fiberglass bassboat...I mostly pleasure fish, occaisonal club tourney. Do I need 100ah or will 50ah work?
I think you’d be fine with 50ah, especially if you don’t fish a lot of current/river systems…maybe someone can chime in who has a similar setup but I think you’d be good to go!
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Awesome video! A lot of thought and effort went in to this one. Thanks for posting.
Thanks Mark, much appreciated!!
Can you do an update on these ionic batteries. Looking to see how well they have held up for 3 years.
Just a NOTE for anyone considering. I installed (1) 12 volt 125 amp/h for main battery and (3) of the 12 volt 50 amp/hour a year ago along with the power pole charge. 21' BassCat Puma, 36 volt Ultrex, Helix 7 and 12 at helm, Helix 12 and 10 on bow, Hydrowave, and lots of lights. Mega 360, (2) 10' blades on back, and Merc 250 ProXs 2 stroke.
Unbelievable how it changed my boat (had to relearn how to drive it)! Hole shot is ridiculous now. I replaced (4) lead acid 31 series, probably shed close to 200lbs. It use to struggle getting out the hole on warm days here in Texas. I have fished 12 hour tourneys (without running the main motor much) with lots of wind and I have never seen them go below 45% charge! And, I never turn off any of the 4 graphs, 360, or the hydrowave.
If you can afford it, they are worth every penny! Game changer for me. A year in and I really can't think of one negative.
I am not paid by Ionic, Humminbird, Power Pole, or anybody unfortunately, lol, just highly impressed!
Hope this helps some of you if you are considering pulling the trigger!
That’s awesome, good to know!...I actually just got a 2nd 12v 125ah for my graphs since I run dual 12’s at wheel and dual 16’s at bow with Active Target....and I got a 3rd 50ah to turn the Ghost into a 36v too, so I should be set...thanks for the feedback!
@@NitroZ18Fishing you'll be able to power your neighborhood with that set up! 😁
hahaha...good to know, open water is almost here, can't wait to put em to the test!
@@NitroZ18Fishing so did you go with another 125ah because one wasn't enough I run 4 12 solix mega 360 and powerpoles no power pole charge interested but if gonna take 2 batteries then probably not gonna do it
@outrage fury, I got the 2nd 125ah just to isolate my graphs and Active Target, I wanted to rule out any and all chances of interference from anything else on cranking battery, that’s really the only reason I added it...hope that helps!
Dude - what a great video. Informative and SO refreshing to see a normal guy. No annoying “youtuber” schtict or the lame youtuber comedy. Just fantastic info and enjoyable to listen to. Great channel my friend and a huge thanks for all this valuable info 👍🏼🤜🏻
Thanks man, I appreciate that!!...let me know if I can help with anything, and thanks for supporting the channel!
About ready to pull the trigger on the ionic batteries and charger for my 2016 Skeeter ZX250 talked to the ionic customer service they recommended three 50Ah and one 125Ah for cranking.
Awesome video. BUT.... where can we get the terminal covers (seems like those fit perfectly for these batteries) and where can we get the terminal extenders?
Thank you!…I got those from Lithium Hub as well, hope that helps!
Very clear explanation dude! Thanks for your time! Love your vids.
Thanks man, I appreciate that!!
Be curious to hear top end results!
Most tin rigs lose 4mph due to less bow rise.
I’ve not read any negative reviews on these batteries.
Actually gonna put them in my tin rig.
Yes sir, I can’t wait to get em out on the water!...I’ll be keeping the channel updated with performance results!
Take my 130lb brother off the back. It won’t effect my ride or top end.
After 3500 rpms your eating double the gas from 4 mpg to 2 or 7 mikes per hour vs 15mikes per hour
Awesome job. .....how have the batteries holding up
Thank you!!…they’re awesome, 💯 worth the investment!!
@@NitroZ18Fishing I'm going to try one out for a cranking battery....it's on the way
How are ya liking it?…glad ya pulled the trigger on it??
@@NitroZ18Fishing so far so good.....
Great video. I’m really looking hard at these Ionic batteries. I have a Nitro ZV21 with a 350 Verado. My batteries shot craps after bringing it out of storage. Need a total of 5 batteries. OUCH 😣. Will my two Genius Gen 2 charger’s be compatible with these Ionic batteries?
Thanks David, I appreciate that!…according to their website the Gen 2 chargers are compatible with Lithiums, you’re gonna love them…I’ve been blown away at how much better they are than standard batteries, I’ll never go back!
Do you think 2 of the 50ah would be good for 24 volt system with ionic charger? I fish for fun about 8 hours or less at a time.
Great video...just wondering where you got the terminal extenders? I'd like to get a set like that...thanks
Thanks Chris!!…got them from www.lithiumhub.com, I love em…they’re listed under “accessories” if I remember correctly…let me know if ya can’t find em and I’ll get the direct link for ya!
Hey great video once again. I have the same boat 2021 with 175pro sx. Just love it. Just picked up a 100ah ionic today for my crank and electronics, charging as we speak. Tried to personalize mine but the 0000 code says invalid. Also have 2 60ah dual purpose for my 24v altrex. Would of went with all ionic but thats another story. Still have to hook it all up and can't wait to try it this spring. Tight lines
Sorry my dual purpose are Dakota's and gonna monitor them with a smart shunt.
Thanks Joe, I appreciate it!…did you get the code thing figured out?…that’s strange, if it doesn’t work I would contact them, maybe they changed the code?…let me know how ya make out!
Great video! How has your Power Pole Charge performed with 2 trolling batteries?
Thank you sir!…so I’ve been running my Charge with 3 trolling batteries…I’ve only had that 1 single issue that I released a video on, other than that it’s been working great!
I am getting ready to install the charge on my boat. I have Ionics as well and they have been awesome. My setup is 125ah and 3 50ah for troller. Have you had any issues with in not charging the Ionics good? I heard some talk about it not working well with Ionics.
I can't answer for him, but I will say that the salesman for Ionic told me to go with 1 battery (36V) for my setup because I have the Power Pole Charge and he said the Charge doesn't like 3 - 12V lithium setups. I have researched a lot with mixed comments on results. I ended up with the one 36V 50aH trolling motor battery. I am installing this week. We shall see how it performs with the Power Pole Charge.
Hey Mike!…I’ve only had 1 random issue that I released a video on the channel explaining what happened…other than that the setup has been great!
Just received the Iconic 36 volts and the charger in 2 days. I hope the 36/50amh will last me a day ?
Give us some feed back Anthony, are they lasting you all day?
Great video! I am trying to take the leap to lithium as well ~ continuing to go back and forth on the 12v 100ah vs. 12v 50 ah for my Terrova 80 lb trolling motor. What made you stick with the 50ah?
Thanks man, I appreciate it!…I decided on the 50’s after talking to a number of people about the performance…they’re more than enough as far as endurance, I have another video on the channel showing how well they perform on the water (with the Power Pole Charge) if ya wanna check it out!…I can fish 2-3 days (depending on conditions of course) without having to worry about plugging in…hope that helps!
Doesn't the Power Pole charger have an app for a battery gauge too? If so, does one app have advantages over the other (Power Pole vs. Ionic)?
Yes sir, both apps have the battery gauges…not sure if I would say one is better than the other, but I do find myself using both…the Ionic app just gives ya slightly different info as well as the battery gauge, so I do love the Ionic app…but the Charge app shows the “flow” of energy which is neat as well, so they’re both good in their own ways…comes down to personal preference I guess!…thanks for watching!
It seems like the bass guys aren’t going to 1 single 36vt. They rather have the 100amp hours. Dame, I have a feeling I’m going to be 50amps short
How are you making out with your setup?
Is it true lithium pro batterys 36v 40 volt while useing the power pole charge, only gains a few minutes of power on a run? You can’t gain a hour of trolling motor charge while running the boat for 30 mins ex? If your battery is dead,
Can you run boat to charge trolling Moter batteries or no?
Nobody can seem to answer a question I have.
I have a 21ft flats boat and fish in wind and current ex ex. What battery should I get for a 36v 112 minnkotta Terrova? Thank you I’m trying to order something today
Hey Anthony!…I don’t know much about Lithium Pro brand, but I can tell ya I’m blown away at the performance of the Power Pole Charge with these Ionics…basically how it works is there is a slider in the app for the Charge, you can choose if you want it to focus more on charging your cranking battery, your trolling batteries, or share the power…I keep mine in the “shared” position and I absolutely love it…it will charge trolling motor batteries and keep them topped off but then send remaining power to cranking battery…it will do this while running with big motor as well…I can literally fish 2 full days and not have to worry about plugging in…hope that helps!
In your research did you determine that a 50 amp hour trolling motor set up would provide enough juice for running your trolling motors all day
Yes sir, 50ah setup is plenty!...I did however add a 3rd to the mix, check out my video I posted showing the on the water performance of the batteries, it’s unbelievable!
Where did you get that battery adapter?? I can not find them anywhere
Got it from LithiumHub.com...it’s under “accessories”...hope that helps!
Great video bro....I tried looking up terminal adapter and extenders and I can't seem to find them anywhere. Do you think you can provide a link? Thanks!!
Thanks man, much appreciated!....and yea no prob, here’s the link...hope it helps!
lithiumhub.com/product/terminal-adapter/
@@NitroZ18Fishing thanks brotha...hopefully I'll get some litiums soon. My current charger I have at the moment is the DeltaVolt ps3 Professional series. Idk if that will work for lithiums tho.
no prob!...I'm not familiar with that charger, best thing to do is call up the company directly and ask...last thing ya'd wanna do is ruin a lithium with the incorrect charger!...haha
@@NitroZ18Fishing that is definitely true lol
Smokn Aces call Dualpro, make sure you have your serial number; you can find the SN on a tag that's connected to the power cable. I have a PS4, 2017 model, it will charge Lithium, but I need to send it in to Dualpro so they can change the charge profile to accommodate Lithium. I haven't decided yet if I'm going to do that.
How is your set up working? I'm getting to do the exact same set up. Do you have your electronics on your cranking battery?
Love it, it has far exceeded my expectations!…I actually have my electronics on their own, I have a different video on channel showing the setup on the water and how it performs, it’s insane how long they last!
How have the batteries been doing ? I was ready to pull the trigger on two for my ultrex but after emailing them a little I was told that two 50 amp hour batteries wouldn’t be sufficient for my trolling motor.
Unfortunately I live in NE PA so our lakes are frozen, I haven’t been able to put em to the test just yet...but I think it all depends on boat size and waters you fish...I’ve talked to countless people before I pulled trigger, and a lot of them run dual 50ah with no issues at all...if you have a bigger boat (20-21 footer) you may want to add a 3rd or jump to 100ah...or if you fish a lot of river water where you’re fighting current all day...if not I would think the 2 50’s would be sufficient...I’ll be keeping the channel updated on their performance as soon as the ice is gone!
@@NitroZ18Fishing I appreciate the response the batteries will be going in my 16 foot tin boat for my ultrex so I think they’ll be more then plenty.
oh yea, I would definitely think they'll be more than sufficient!...let me know how ya make out!
@@leaveorlibertyfishing7670 You will be all good!
FYI, I got the Ionics from Andy at Drewcraft, and the PP Charge from Kevin at K and K Customz. I did hours of research before finding them on the BBC boards. Killer prices and even gave me a first responder/fire fighter discount. Both seemed like super cool stand up guys!
Thanks for the video.
No problem, thanks for watching!
What website did you go on to buy your batteries
Got mine from LithiumHub.com…hope that helps!
I would have put the batteries in the port (left) corner to avoid having to remove them if you needed to access the bilge to clear a bilge pump or other service.
I thought about that, but honestly these things are so light I won’t even care...hahaha...I may move em after I see how performance is but I wanted to try it with the weight centered...I’ll keep the channel updated, thanks for watching!
@@NitroZ18Fishing you have a point on the weight but being much. I like being able to work on mine without hassle, hence the comment.
Would this system be overkill for 2 garmin graphs, and a 24v 80lb Minn Kota Terrova. It’s on a 17.5 Bass Tracker. I’m thinking I wouldn’t need the 125ah Cranking Batt I could go with the 100ah.??? Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
Yea you should be more than ok with a 100ah for cranking and 2 of these 50ah for trolling motor!...if you fish really long days (12 hours plus) or fish a lot of current I would maybe go to the 125, but I think you’ll be fine either way...hope that helps!
Help!!! I have an aluminum boat with 40 lb troll motor. Will a
50 ah work or do I need a 100 ah?
Depending on how long your days are on water the 50 should be more than enough!
I wonder why you had a 2 lb difference in 2 m/29 batts?
Yea most batteries will slightly vary, if you weigh 5 they will probably all vary somewhat
a difference in water level inside the batteries could easily add up to 2 pounds.
Where did you get those battery trays and ratchets?
Hey Michael!…got em from the same website I purchased the batteries from, LithiumHub.com
Are you still using Ionic batteries? How well are they doing after a year?
Yepper!…love em, wouldn’t chance anything with my setup, performance is unreal
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Did you not have any concerns using lithium with that Opti?
Not at all, I’ve talked to countless people who are using this exact battery with Mercs up to 250 and haven’t heard of a single issue...I did a ton of research before pulling the trigger, this particular Lithium is equivalent to 900cca’s...plenty to turn her over, but I’ll be keeping the channel updated if any issues arise!
@@NitroZ18Fishing Thanks. I have no doubt about the power. I fear the rumored shut down while on plane. Can't wait for Merc to officially approve them.
yea I know some companies are starting to release lithiums made for cranking, if anything happens with these I'll make the switch and let everyone know for sure!
@@NitroZ18Fishing my concern that nobody mentions is that lithium batteries are very hard on the alternator. I contacted Ionic and they couldn't give me any answer other than lots of people are using them. The good thing about these is that you can monitor how much amperage they are taking from the alternator and potentially burning it up. Did any of the people you talked to mention watching the charging current to see if it was pulling too much?
I didn't ask about that specifically but I haven't heard of anyone having any issues with using this Ionic for a cranking battery and running into problems...and I've talked to a lot of people before I pulled the trigger!...I'll keep you guys posted for sure if I run into any issues!
Anyone running 2 12v 50ah lithiums? I have a 24V fortrex on 19 1/2 foot fiberglass bassboat...I mostly pleasure fish, occaisonal club tourney. Do I need 100ah or will 50ah work?
I think you’d be fine with 50ah, especially if you don’t fish a lot of current/river systems…maybe someone can chime in who has a similar setup but I think you’d be good to go!
Are these lithium ion or lithium iron?
lithium iron phosphate