@@xXCrashTXx-1better thing to do (imo) was a second time skip only shorter with Tobi/Kabuto/maybe sasuke/one back up village planning this properly. Just imagine a total war with real strategy in the Naruto verse
he literally says "we're done moving ahead cautiously, put a rush on Project Tsuki No Me!" in EP 197 which is right before the Kage Summit and right after the Pain fight so youre probably right about him becoming impatient
What would make sense story wise would have been for HIM to approach Kabuto for the Edo Tensei, and let him use the chakra of the tailed beasts to fuel them. This would remove the plot hole of his bad plan as well as the broken nature of edo tensei. He could even offer Kabuto Sasuke with the EMS, which would give Kabuto a reason to go along as well as a reason for Obito to work with Sasuke, which never made sense
For what did he need the Edo Tensei? He didnt care about the War Effort. He wanted Naruto on the Battlefield, to get Kyuubi. Zetsus Power was used for that. He was only caring about winning after Juubi was out, so he could use Mugen savely.
Obito's motivation for working with Sasuke is because he was an Indra reincarnation who could potentially be linked to the Gedo Statue and used as a spare to revive real Madara. By the end of the series it seems like, everyone has mangekyo but it actually supposed to be quite rare. He talks about his at least twice with Zetsu in the build up to the war. He even throws Sasuke at massively powerful enemies in order to speed up the development of his ocular power and create a need for him to use Itachi's eyes.
@@tickledeggz The thing is, the only person we ever see beating Obito prio to the war was dead at that point. He was the strongest character on the series at the time with almost all the tailed beasts as well as the rinnegan. For him to use Sasuke as a trading bargain to get madara and other Shinobi revived by Edo Tensei would have made for a better plot
Madara was literally living in the same village as the Second Hokage, so he could have been watching from the shadows and copied the hand signs, but never actually planned on using Edo, but still understood how to perform the signs
0:45 I honestly think for the most part Obito was bluffing. He was walking around claiming to be Madara, and all his showings of strength indicated that to the Kage. However, instead of breaking apart and submitting when Obito called for War (Which is what i suspected was the initial plan) they were like "Aight bro square up" Another thing worth mentioning is that the dude was literally going from the summit, to the Rain Village for the Rinnegan, which would have absoulutely dominated everyone solo with minimal difficulties. The Leaf village would have the "easiest" time given they had fought it before. But Obito would have been able to do what Madara did against the alliance. Dude has 7 Tailed Beasts on his side + the Rinnegan + he can't be hit. He had a much better chance then you'd think without Edos Edit: to clarify a bit. Obito with the Rinnegan is on par with Edo Madara. So he has the power to contend with the Kage. With all the White Zetsu in one located place by sheer numbers alone would be able to overwelm the nameless fodder of the alliance. Without Naruto or Killer B, Kakashi and Gai aren't doing anything to Obito at this point, even with the Leafs knowledge about the Rinnegan and all its powers. No matter what the alliance had, the sheer number of Zetsu, the 7 Tailed Beasts and an equivalent of Edo Madara, all at the same time? I really don't think it was that hopeless for Obito to win. That said, he should have been more patient, he already showed himself at the summit to be more then capable of finding Naruto and B. Had he not of declared war, Naruto and B would have just been under watch there respective villages. Go capture B, then take Naruto, you win. Even if Naruto or B tried to fight back niether stood a chance at this point. And if you were that scared, jjst take your eye back from Kakashi.
Its so frustrating to see People constantly talking about him and his Chances to win. Just reread the Chapter where he uses the Zetsus Transformation. He never intended to win the War. He wanted to lure out Naruto, capture him and then start Mugen whit Juubi. Beating the Nations is pointless for him at that Point of the Story. The entire War was a Bluff.
Yeah not taking the eye back was one of the biggest plot hole. He already abandoned his former life as obito so he shouldn't care about that he gave it to kakashi as a gift. The only reason kishimoto didn't have him take it back is because it would have made obito unstoppable.
@@Sunaki1000 The problem is that he never managed to capture Naruto, without the Edo Tensei he would never have gotten Kinkaku and Ginkaku to revive the 10 Tails. -- And even though he was strong he would be easily overwhelmed by the 5 Kages, 50,000 ninjas, Naruto, kakashi, Kurama, Guy, Bee and the 8 Tails. What the hell did Obito plan to do when the Alliance finished eliminating all the Zetsu and joined Naruto, Kakashi, Guy and Bee to fight him? He was barely able to handle Kakashi and Naruto alone, Obito being decimated by the shinobi alliance, the shinobi alliance could easily spam jutsus on him until Kamui stopped working, which was their initial plan and it just didn't work because they couldn't stop Juubi, something Obito wouldn't have here because he would never have Ginkaku and Kinkaku. Not to mention Kakashi that after the arrival of the shinobi alliance, he, Naruto, Gai and everyone was restored by the medical ninjas, he didn't even have the Bijuus because Naruto removed all of them from his control, the only thing he had was the Gedo Mazou who was being beaten by Guy and Bee.
Obito did a lot of dumb things in the war, for example, he risked not going for Kakashi who still had his eye and fighting him although Kakashi was his main weakness cuz of Kamui
@@roycedsouza4632 yeah. And he suddenly was not able to use kamui for some reason as juubito while madara can use it. The only thing he lacked with his single kamui was attacking power since he already had a near perfect defense with it so when he got offensive abilities as juubito, the writer had to nerf him being vulnerable.
I agree on this one. I think he deffo underestimated his opponents and overestimated Zetsus. However, there's still a chance that he gets a bit of Kurama from Naruto (or Minato), and from there it would be basically the same story with or without Kabuto (summons 10-Tails, becomes Juubito, being allowed to use his own Sharingan and it's GG). I also would like to see smth like this, in the rewrite maybe 👀 (and maybe Kabuto and Madara come after this or smth like that idk 🤷♂️)
I don't think he was expecting the 5 nations to team up and organize as swiftly as they did. I also am willing to bet his plan was just to allow the zetsus to infiltrate and catch all the strongest ninja in every village unexpected at once before he ever openly attacked and changed his plans when he met kabuto accordingly. When you think about it, kabuto caused him to lose the war by forcing him to openly attack instead of this other much better plan of subterfuge. He probably also thought sasuke would be helping when he made that claim.
Good video but you missed one important note. It was thanks to kabuto that obito was even able to clone so many white zetsus. Kabuto captured Yamato and used his wood style dna to amplify the amount of clones white Zetsu could make. Kabuto really carried the war.
I mean the plan was not to win by direct fight. The plan was to have the alliance beat many Zetsus and them putting their spores on them and shapeshifting among their ranks to kill them by surprise. If Sakura hadn't figured out the infiltration, Obito would have won before Naruto even arrived
This would be fixed really easy saying that the reunion with Kabuto was a flashback and when Obito went to the 5 kage meeting he already has pact with kabuto.
You think obito's plan is the worst? Madara's plan is much dumber He's lucky nagato didn't die during the 2nd and the 3rd world wars in ame, like... one of the most dangerous places; he's lucky rin survived during the 3rd war too before obito came; he's lucky rinnegan eyes weren't stolen (by Orochimaru for example), destroyed by konan or sakura or used by nagato for his own goals earlier; he's lucky nagato joined obito; he's lucky all the jinchurikis were alive (gaara whose father tried to kill him 6 times, or naruto and fu which acted rashly due to their hot-tempered personalities and could have been murdered anytime, or utakata who (according to anime) was followed by his own village that wanted him dead), so he could complete his plan; he's lucky minato didn't seal whole kurama into himself and passed away with him; he's lucky isobu resurrected and so-so-so on He just was going with the flow
@@t-masterrules5085 definitely, obito was directly planning everything and madara coming back was literally an accident unforeseen by both of them because kabuto was a dumbass.
Right but Rin WAS MANIPULATED in her decisions by the Heart Tag that Madara placed on her. She could not have decided on her will to return to the Leaf. Madara wanted to let Obito see Rin being Chidori'd by Kakashi to make him fall into darkness. The fact she had the heart tag was mentioned when Madara "took back" from Obito the 2nd Rinnegan and said that it was quite funny that "both of them took it away in the same way, by the same person." And right there Obito realised that Madara placed the tag on Rin since he just has been pierced by Hatake in order to become the Juubi's Jinjuriki against Madara's will. IDK how or when Madara placed the tag on Rin but I bet by Black Zetsu by Madara's order when she was kidnapped and fell unconcious, in the same way when Obito was being healed (put) back.
@@grandicellichannel the issue with Madaras plan is he realistically never comes back to life in it. Madara got obito on his side, but everything that followed his death was dumb luck in his favor, ESPECIALLY his revival, since he was supposed to be brought back to life via rinne-tensei by nagato or obito, and then proceed from there. Which didn’t happen because obito wasn’t stupid. Also madara didn’t put the tag on Rin, her death was entirely caused by the ninja since they were the ones who put the bijuu in her, and were the ones who demanded it be returned to them after it got out
Honestly i think Obito by himself actually stands a really good chance at getting naruto and bee. Even with Kakashi and Guy as support he only started the process to revive the ten tails for plot convinience. HOWEVER, given the massive importance the Edo Tensei had during the intial part of the war it is really stupid that Obito did not approach Kabuto or t the very least accept his proposal as soon as he was approached by him.
Actually I would say zetsu were nerfed during the war arc. As before that and in boruto they present an actual threat and being honest if they had their entire arsenal and the same power level consistency throughout they possible don't lose until Naruto gets bijuu cloak. As Naruto made them fodder. As in earlier parts zetsu can maneuver in and throughout earth and elements itself similar to obito kamui but without a a vortex showing up . Meaning they infiltration game would be relative easy. Or when Mei was gonna kill Sasuke in the hallway her boil style got consumed by and turned into spores by white zetsu which he used to even heal and empower Sasuke. And the fact they can look like and pose as comrades then sneak kill or fuse with multiple zetsu creating a tank zetsu which is extremely dangerous and can take big hits like it's nothing. Yea only because Naruto got the ultimate buff in the war arc giving him a plethora of ways to shut them down. Such as detecting they negative energy. / kurama cloak being so intune with nature it turns zetsu into trees making them null and void. Honestly if Naruto didn't enter the war everyone would have lost to zetsu army alone. Sidenote I think obito didn't think he was alone after all he had Sasuke in wings but that too got scrapped I guess. As once Sasuke got ems surgery and was out and about he didn't ever seem to work on obito side.
Plus I'll add the writer chose to nerf even obito and basically dragged him by the nuts as seriously with the tailed beast paths of pain realistically would have toasted everyone especially if they were up to full potential/ obito having actual rinnegan buffs. As in anime he pretty much turns off the path of pains rinnegan abilities because they have faced and beaten the previous rinnegan abilities based pains that nagato presented.(plot reasoning.) Which is complete bs imagine Naruto and bee vs bijuu that have access to path of pain abilities combined with they unique bijuu arsenal and transformations. Yea both bee and Naruto lost to edo nagato if itachi didn't step in . And he only lost control because after Naruto got swallowed he cud communicate with the dead jinchiriki and tailed beast and somehow talk no justu them to fighting obito control. Hell if the paths of pain had access to be able to use kamui just like obito yea it would be a wrap. Plus obito counted on Naruto and bee not being allowed in the war arc which almost happened. So if the scenario played out where the shinobi alliance didn't have Naruto and bee show up to aid yea the war arc probably ends in obito favor but I see your being sarcastic with the video. So it's fine lol
@@chriswilson7288 White Zetsu was always weak, in fact he got stronger during the War thanks to Kabuto. His transformation abilities are useless against Naruto, which is something Obito would have to deal with, no matter if Naruto's abilities with KCM were plotted or not, Zetsu is getting his ass kicked. Without Edo Tensei Obito is also unable to revive the 10 Tails, as he does not have Ginkaku and Kinkaku. Since you mentioned Obito's Rinnegan nerf how about we talk about the nerf naruto received, Naruto knows all of the Rinnegan's abilities and throughout the series he is shown to be extremely intelligent when it comes to fighting, as he immediately recognized Juubito's weakness against Sage Art, but at the beginning of the war he proves to be extremely stupid against Nagato's Rinnegan. -- The reality is that Obito's Rinnegan would be extremely useless against Naruto, it would give him more power, but it would just be one more thing that Naruto and Bee would have to deal with. Without Edo Tensei, the alliance would defeat the Zetsu much sooner, and they would arrive much sooner to support Naruto and Bee, as well as the 5 Kages, Kakashi and Guy could have been with Naruto from the beginning in the fight against Obito, a fight he would lose long before. There is nothing Obito can do against the entire Shinobi Alliance, the only reason things were different in the manga was because he had the Ten-Tails and the Shinobi Alliance was completely defenseless against the Ten-Tails, without the Ten-Tails Obito is having the his ass kicked, medical ninjas can constantly heal Naruto, or Naruto enhances the alliance's abilities, or the fact that the alliance can spam attacks on Obito until he runs out of Kamui, or Kakashi with Kurama's Chakra is in the other dimension and when Obito using Kamui to attack him like he did in the manga. Another detail is that here Kakashi would be fighting alongside the 5 Kages and the entire Shinobi Alliance, who would tell Kakashi to send clones of Naruto to Kamui's dimension, and even send ninjas to Kamui's dimension to attack Obito from there, Obito's Kamui here would be useless, which would be an even bigger Nerf than the Rinnegan, the alliance would not only pressure Obito, but pressure Kakashi to take the fight seriously. In the manga as it was only a 1V1 Kakashi could take it easy on Obito instead of sticking a Raikiri in his heart when he used Kamui, but the moment the alliance appears this becomes useless, since they would force Kakashi to fight seriously, none of the Kage would stand still and watch Kakashi have a conversation with Obito, the first thing they would say would be for kakashi to send some ninjas or Naruto's clone to Kamui's dimension, despite Obito having the Rinnegan in this scenario Kamui would be useless.
This is the same simp who started the 4th Great Ninja War, over a little girl who didn’t like even him. Can you really expect this guy to have his screws on right?
Chief toad did NOT beat Shukaku. Just because Shukaku didnt have the tools to take down Cheif toad immediately doesnt take away from the fact that water bullets werent doing anyhing to Shukaku's sand defense. If Naruto didn't use transformation and then woke Gaara up, Chief toad would have eventually poofed away because Shukaku can outlast him.
Also Shukaku at that point in the story wasn't even a tailed beast that was retconned way later on Also let's not act as if this is the first time Kishimoto power crept a character from part 1 to hell and back ( remember when hiruzen was supposed to be stronger than Hashirama and Tobirama COMBINED and at his OLD AGE )
@@OneNormalHuman Also Shukaku at that point in the story wasn't even a tailed beast that was retconned way later on Also let's not act as if this is the first time Kishimoto power crept a character from part 1 to hell and back ( remember when hiruzen was supposed to be stronger than Hashirama and Tobirama COMBINED and at his OLD AGE )
It's funny how everyone forgets that naruto didn't defeat shukaku, he woke up gaara by headbutting him breaking the transformation, similar to how minato woke naruto from fully transforming into the nine tails against Pain. If gaara was fully transformed and inside shukaku, naruto would have lost unless he transforms into the nine tails, or at least 4 tails form.
All "relateable villains" have to be kind of dumb because they have to be wrong enough for you average joe to realise they are evil, but also have to believe in their ideas with enough charisma for people to semi ignore certain logical arguments in order to be like "Oh I guess he kinda has a point".
I mean the only reason they lost is because Kabuto underestimated Itachi, and also didn't just release him the instant Kotoamtsukami was used. If Itachi never undid the Edo Tensei the alliance wouldn't have been able to help Naruto and B out as fast if at all.
To be fair, the white Zetsus' ability to mimic people was enough to basically checkmate the shinobi alliance. Nobody knew that someone would be able to feel people's bad feelings and killing intent or whatever. No sensory type could do that for instance. But yeah, not a great plan anyway to declare war on tens of thousands of shinobis all at once. You can't know everyone's jutsus in every single village and somebody might have an unorthodox way to seal you or mess up with your battle plans. 😅
On Obito's defense, he should logically outnumber the whole army by whole orders of magnitude. If every village provided equal numbers, that fraction is way more than their whole population, they are supposed to be *villages*, not cities. He probably was expecting to distract and bog everyone with Zetsu clones and jump the important ones with a Bijuu or two while everyone was busy and mop everyone else afterwards with bijuudama. But then saw the lot of them and went :"...Are those clones? The don't expect me to believe there are that many ninja on any given village, right?"
Obito with rinnegaan definetely solos if it didn't come to his weakness that is his own second eye.he was tough time fighting naruto,bee and kakashi cuz of his own another eye otherwise before kakshi used his eyes he wasn't even trying to do anything still they do not able to do anything and you are underestimating obito very much cuz in the whole show he was just using kamui but literally he have godly arsenal of jutsus cuz at 15 that kid just summoned the nine tails and he even had put perfect jhinchuriki into genjutsu that is the feat only he was able to pull off,so don't understimate him and him with rinnegaan man that knockout for everyone.
Remember, Obito needed to have Marada to properly control the 10tails. Without it, he'd have a very hard time using the 10 tail, and be it close to impossible to become its jinjuriki. Also, if Sasuke (for some reason) went againts Kabuto and won using plot armor. Orichimaru would have been revived and have edo tensied the entire 4 Kage to beat Obito's ass. Cause Hashirama can just blitz Orichimaru or talk-talk jutsu Sasuke into submission.
White zetsu are amazingly strong because they now had the original chakra of hashirama to fight some were selected to battle larger opponents for mad stalls.
It’s funny how in a story like this, you don’t completely notice sone of this as it’s happening. I tend to let the story play out, then place judgements. Though i did break that rule when Kaguya showed up. Other than sone foreshadowing the chapter before (in the form of a weird picture of her), there was no indication she’d show up. She basically said” screw madara, you’re fighting me now”. But some of the stuff pointed out here makes sense. I also would like to point out that if they didn’t get Kabuto’s Edo tensei, but still got Orochimaru’s for the 5 nations, Obito would have gotten has ass handed to him. White Mask obito would have barely been a match for Minato, much less Tobirama or Hashirama.
Solid points. It could be the war was meant to be a diversion, meant to draw out Naruto so Obito could nab him. If Obito believed completing the 10 Tails would be an autowin, sacrificing his army to achieve that would be in line. Still a big risk, Obito assuming he'd have the chance to grab Naruto before he's just crushed, and it's a gamble betting all of Obito's resources.
Ähm, the Manga directly stated that. He only cared about luring out B and Naruto, winning the War was never a Priority. He didnt realy gain anything from that after all.
Yeah, but with Zetzu's skills he could just as well have stood in the shadows untill Zetzu finds Naruto and Bee and then attack the two directly without having to deal with pretty much every Ninja in the world at the same time.
Do we REALLY entirely ignore the fact, that there was absolutely no need to declare war for Obito? All Obito needed was the chakra of the 8-tails and 9-tails. He could have gotten that much easier by using Zetzu to find Naruto and Bee and then attack them directly. Obito and Zetzu would have had a good chance against Naruto and Bee + some additional ninjas to guard them. Those aditional ninjas would worse case be somebody like Kakashi or Yamato, so high Anwu / Jonin level, but not the level of a Kage or reincarnated legendary ninjas like Minato. Also as he was able to use the chakra pulled of the 9-tails by Gin-kaku and Kin-kaku, he could likely have used other methods of getting the chakra of the tailed beasts and use that to summon the 10 tails. That has definitly a much higher chance of success than starting a war against the entire world.
Obito´s plan would have been much less dumb if he approached Kabuto in advance. I bet Kishimoto had a plan for Obito in the war but then remembered Edo Tensei and was like....nah, here it goes. Hence the plothole.
Well the Edos carried the Entertainment. 7:14 comgratulations, you played yourselfe. I am honestly surprised how many People got that wrong. Obito never cared about beating the Alliance, he just wanted to force Naruto out to the Battlefield to have a easier Time capturing it. That in itselfe is questionable, but as long as hes able to lure Naruto out, his Plan works. If his Army gets completly stomped is realy of no Consequence. 3:12 äääh, no. It has something to do whit there Chakra, but thats just a strong benifit. Shukaku could in theory train to surpass other Beasts by just beeing a better fighter. Its not like Chakra equals Strenght, otherwhise Kakashi would be fodder. And he lost to Gamabunta because he was resealed, he wasnt incapitated.
He was going to keep the shinobi alliance busy with the white zetsu army. Him and black zetsu capture the eight tails. Then send sasuke to fight naruto, after take the nine tails from naruto.
That's why he gone to find rinnegan too bad author didn't let him use any rinnegan ability he only ever relied on his kamui even though rinnegan also provided to many haxes
Chess, not checkers. Obito only needed to capture naruto, getting bee is just a bonus for him. The white Zetsu’s transformations are the perfect tool to keep the entire shinobi alliance confused, you saw how they were stalemated in the original just imagine that with every division of the alliance. Kakashi and Guy would have no way to tell which members of their division were Zetsu. Naruto would only be able to access the basic KCM so he’d be slower and weaker when he and bee get to Obito. And considering how Obito was able to deal with KCM2, Bee, Kakashi and Guy using the bijuu as just distractions I’d say he’d be more than capable of taking out KCM1 and Bee before anyone comes to save them. The only thing that might change the course is Sasuke showing up challenging Naruto and getting Koto’d into helping to stop Obito but honestly you’d have to wank sasuke to a million for that to be even remotely possible.
And this entire plot hole could have been avoided simply by switching the order of the scenes around. If Kabuto went to Obito like "Psst, hey kid! Want some... forbidden jutsus?" BEFORE he declared war on the entire world. Also, on the subject of the alternate reality where Obito didn't have Edo Tensei to give his army of cannon fodder a fighting chance, I like to think he'd take a more sneaky guerilla warfare approach instead of announcing his intentions at this world's equivalent to the UN summit. Picture this: Its a lovely Monday morning in the village hidden in the clouds. No name ninjas are starting their shift guarding the entrance to the village. They expect it to be just another lazy day of getting paid to sit on your ass and do nothing, when suddenly they see a suspicious individual in the distance casually strolling towards the village entrance. They send a scouting party to intercept him but he effortlessly slaughters them all, except one dude that he allows to escape with a message: "I'm Madara Uchiha, and I've come to burn this village to the ground and soak the soil in its people's blood!" "Oh shit! Legendary rogue ninja Madara Uchiha is coming, and he says he's feeling a little genocide-y today!" Relays the messanger to the Raikage and his officers. "Sunovabitch!" bellows the Raikage. "Who cares if Madara himself is here to attack the village? He's just one guy! Gather all the shinobi at the gate and prepare to fight!" And so the vast majority of the village's trained fighters gather up at the entrance to the village and mentally prepare themselves to face Obito who they think to be Madara, who is still slowly walking towards the village like an old man on his morning stroll. "Yo, dude. Not cool coming into our village uninvited like that! We'll have to politely ask you to turn yourself in so we can ship you back to the Leaf village!" Says the Raikage. Obito ignores him and keeps walking, nearly reaching the entrance. "Not kidding, fam! Not even you can face the might of an entire ninja village!" Obito stops and looks at the Raikage, smirking. All the gathered shinobi prepare to jump him "An entire ninja village? You think this is my first rodeo, 'fam'?" In that moment, half of the gathered shinobi suddenly turn on the other half: shanking them in the gut, snapping their necks, kicking them in the balls, performing the "1000 years of death" technique on them, and who knows what else. In just a few minutes, the forces of the Cloud are utterly decimated without Obito even lifting a finger. Only a handful of Jonin, Bee, and the Raikage remain standing against Obito and his army of transformed white Zetsu clones. It turns out, a few weeks before the attack, shinobi of the Cloud got ambushed while on routine missions and slowly got replaced by white Zetsu clones one squad at a time, who with their ability to perfectly mimic a ninja by draining their chakra make them nigh undetectable spies. Bee gets transported to the kamui dimension to be taken care of later, and Raikage will lose to Obito eventually after a long drawn out fight (if Sasuke can take one of his arms, then white mask Obito for sure can take him out). Messenger guy that first warned the village tries to escape but is grabbed by the ankles by a white Zetsu emerging from the ground, and the last thing he hears before getting killed is black Zetsu saying: "A good magician never reveals their secrets. We can't have you go spill the beans to the other villages now." End of episode. The rest of the war arc would be the same infiltration happening to another ninja village but this time escapees would be able to warn the remaining 3 villages and we would watch them dealing with an ostensibly weak but extremely insidious enemy that can infiltrate their home turf and strike when their guard is down, Invasion of the Body Snatchers style.
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I can only assume that he wasn't going to war as soon as he declared it, y'know do some prep before sending in the white zetsu. Admittedly that's headcannon, but I doubt obito is thinking white zetsus can hold out until he completes the gedo mazo without any sort of plan, it's just that kabuto sped up the date of war with the edo tensei so there was no need to plan further.
The war was a distraction that was supposed to delay the 5 idiots for Naruto and B to show up for Obito to kill them by absorbing them. and further will go into his scenario plan
It would have made more sense if for example Obito captured Bee, took the 8 tails and then only Naruto remains and that would have been what starts the war. It served no purpose for Obito to start the war but if the 5 great nations were the ones to start it that would have forced Obito to seek help from Kabuto promising him Sasuke.
Shukaku is the third strongest tailed beast, because he has a semi main character controlling him. He gets the second most techniques as far as I'm aware. Tails do represent their amount of chakra but not necessarily their strength.
Also i really hate the " Gamabunta defeated him " because no ? He didn't? Did we even watch the same fight ? Naruto had to talk no jutsu gaara Shukaku wasn't actually properly defeated ? Also back in part 1 , Shukaku wasn't even a tailed beast in the first place
nice video as usual! I have an idea for a coming video: What if the three senins were at konoha when naruto was born (jiraya, good orochimaro, tsunadi) you can make it in one video, or do it for each senin in a single video.
Tbh, we don't know if having Kabuto there altered his original war strategy. Maybe he felt with all those S+ rank edos with infinite chakra and regeneration and Madara on the battlefield that open war was a better option, which makes sense in theory, 100k fodder vs 80k fodder. 4 revived kages + madara vs 5 kages (mostly weaker than the edos). 7 tailed beasts vs 2 tailed beasts. On paper, it looks like they should have crushed the opposition with force alone. Also, disagree on the thing about the number of tails. It was stated in canon to be the false, and the shukaku gamabunta faced wasn't even capable of talking or using the tailed beast bomb, or manipulating sand for anything other than regenerating it's limbs. Plus it had gaara sticking out of its head. The thing was barely conscious. If I were Obito, and did not have help from Kabuto, I would have applied a lot of pressure by having zetsus sneak attack civilian villages or cities and apply the pressure there. Spread the alliance forces thin, wear down all of the fodder ninja, force the Daimyos of the countries to surrender and if the alliance still refuses to give up the remaining tailed beasts, I would shift gears and attack the shinobi villages with the power of the tailed beasts and the rinnegan, with shinobi forces spread thin from reduced numbers trying to cover too much ground. I would have kept Sasuke close and had him use his new EMS to back me up and give him his revenge on the leaf. Also it's worth mentioning that based on what Madara said, it was always the plan for him to be revived and cast the infinite Tsukuyomi, though not through edo tensei. So unless Obito was planning to betray Madara and not revived him (definitely possible) he still would have had that ace up his sleeve.
2:16 nah white mask obito even without the bijui would deck the hokage. Kcm 1 naruro was faster then the fourth raikage. Then obito was able to spar with kcm 2 naruto pretty comfortably. So hes faster/stronger then their fastest/strongest. Also they have no way to deal with kamui. The only reason naruto was able to blow of his mask was kakashis kamui. Minato was only able to beat a much younger/weaker obito because flying raijin is a hard counter. The kage have no counter like that and they are also slower /weaker.
What an integral question! Here's what I came up with. Obito wasn't too fond of his chances, which was why he went to great lengths to stop the summit or weaken the Gokage. He admitted that it would have been nice if one of them were weakened to the point they could be captured. I think it was as Raikage later assumed: he was trying to get the remaining Jinchuuriki to come out into the open, or be herded into one place, where Kisame could find out about later, and perhaps catch them there. And he would bring back the real Madara if those two admittedly shaky plans didn't work. Kabuto entering the fray gave him more options, including the one to delay reviving Madara.
Its stated that obito has the potential to fight the whole shinobi alliance, We never saw it cause madara got all the smoke and obito was fighting in a much different battle feld. And as u were saying that obito cant defeat the whole 5 kage, alone without the help of the 6 tailed beast your completely wrong because, my bro obito was playing with kcm naruto which is far stronger and faster than the raikage that is definitely the fastest than the other 4 kages And sunade was shitting her pants just think if she tought obito who she thinks was “madara”. and they basically dont have any counters for the kamui or even the renegans abilities What will the kages do againts the renegans abilities which obito can use them like pain did, the whole reason obito didnt use the renegans abilities againts kakashi, naruto and the other guys which we see fighting in the series its because obito knew that they know or so naruto knew how to counter the rinegan abilities in which the kage cant caunter it, plus the kage dosent really have any counters for the kamui, they can only counter kamui is tru attacking him for more than five minutes or having another kamui user , but because they cant fight off againts the rinegan obito still slams with or without the 6 tailed beast in his hands. and u were saying that obito was having a difficult time fighting againts kakashi, bee, might guy and naruto which is not the case because without kakashi having a counter on obitos kamui then obitos just basically bullying bee and naruto, and even when the four are teaming up againts obito, He dosent even look like hes having a difficulty fighting them😂😂, and because of madara kurama gave in, in helping naruto by giving him chackra which so he can fight off againts the enemies, naruto can only use tailed beast trasformation because of kuramas help, which kurama stated that he would rather deal with naruto than madara. i dont see how can kurama open up to naruto without some of the scenes like naruto helping the 4 tails. in smaller terms i dont see how they can defeat obito without kuramas help and chackra. But if they prob team up together to stop obito before obito can just snach kurama away from naruto they’ll have a high chance of stopping him. but if obito managed to grab naruto and extract the nine tails things would have ended badly. and sasuke wont be interested in the war cause he didnt get a little talking with his brother that made him enter the war in the first place. or maybe in order for obito to win the war and achieve his own goals is by jumping the kages first, then the whole shinobi alliance then the main characters.
My theory probably was going to learn how to use the Edo Tensei but some how found out Kabuto know how to use it because it was madara plan all along so he was going to bring him back some how it just that Kabuto learn it & perfected it to his liking & all that happen off screen just like how Kabuto became snake sage(whatever it call) off screen
Obito never wanted Madara back, it's why he was pissed at Kabuto and why he took the ten tails when he was about to get forced into reviving Madara for real. He basically usurped Madara's plan.
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Hmm idk about this one chief. Obito was playing around with naruto,bee,guy,and kakashi if he really wanted to I think he could have beaten them and never gave them enough time to figure him out. But with all the edos on his side he wasn’t in any rush or felt pressured until the edos started losing and he rushed the 10 tails rebirth
@@167kinggam dio vs jotaro? 6 paths madara vs guy? Itachi vs sasuke? All these characters from the top of my head were playing around with their enemy and then got their ability dissected. Even after his mask got shattered, he let kakashi stab him indtead of killing kakashi. He would have soloed the war.
@@167kinggam He is stronger than the 5 kage and the war’s strongest people put together. He even went on a roasting monologue about how they couldn’t make him sweat. If he really tried, then the higher ups wouldn’t stand a chance, then after dealing with them, he could just unleash the bijuu on the rest of the fodder. Unless you got scaling for anyone over Obito, my argument stands.
@@step1saysomethingcontrover320 the bijuus get dealt with handily by naruto and bee alone. Zetsus are fodder. That leaves obito against the entire shinobi alliance, which he has no chance of winning. What excuse are you gonna say….”oOooh kAmuUii”, yeah kakashi’s got kamui too🤣. Only decent weapon obito has is the gedo statue.
If only Obito didnt taunts the kage and proposing a war, he might be able to keep his facade as a mysterious and silly masked akatsuki that happened to have a sharingan... The 5 nations already brewing some conflict anyway thanks to Sasuke's action. Im pretty sure if Obito didnt poses himself as Madara, Raikage and probably Tsuchikage will have a major conflict against Leaf Village because Sasuke's status as a rogue villain ninja and the Leaf's policy to capture him alive...
Obito explaining his plan to aizen before joining with obito Aizen: your plan is equal to me bringing only the top 6 espada an army of hollows against the whole 13th court guard squad are you dumb or stupid
You underestidimate how strong Obito is. If Kaguya is a God (which ootsutsukis are), Hagoromo was a half god and Obito had a Rinnegan so he had the power of a half god
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damn you surely like obito
Obito changed the plan when kabuto joined him. He had a different plan to win the war.
He didn't overestimated him self. He underestimated naruto. Without naruto shinobi alliance probbaly lost.
I couldnt read it. The thing
Fr kishi didn't know what he was doing
Also remember that it was Kabuto who made the Zetsu army stronger meaning the Zetsu’s were originally even weaker
*"tRaSh!"*
Do you believe that kabuto knew who zetsu really was?
@@INGAQueen305he wouldn't be interested in him but I can imagine Zetsu gave Kabuto access to Madara's genetic material to enhance and revive him.
I’m with you here. Once nagato died it messed up his initial plan, and seems like he got impatient.
I wish the series would have ended after pain arc, but well money talks
@@xXCrashTXx-1 No, too many unsolved plot threads.
@@xXCrashTXx-1 Maybe a time skip but not an end. Like cynic says too many unsolved plot threads.
@@xXCrashTXx-1better thing to do (imo) was a second time skip only shorter with Tobi/Kabuto/maybe sasuke/one back up village planning this properly.
Just imagine a total war with real strategy in the Naruto verse
he literally says "we're done moving ahead cautiously, put a rush on Project Tsuki No Me!" in EP 197 which is right before the Kage Summit and right after the Pain fight so youre probably right about him becoming impatient
You forgot to mention that the White Zetsus were much weaker before Kabuto implanted Hashirama's cells in them
no, the white zetsus are made from hashirama cells from the start.
@@nihilarv2303 It is true. But Kabuto used Yamato cells to make them better
@@joaosolreis3004 Yes
Plot twist: Kabuto lost only because his back was so strained from carrying Obito so hard.
What would make sense story wise would have been for HIM to approach Kabuto for the Edo Tensei, and let him use the chakra of the tailed beasts to fuel them. This would remove the plot hole of his bad plan as well as the broken nature of edo tensei. He could even offer Kabuto Sasuke with the EMS, which would give Kabuto a reason to go along as well as a reason for Obito to work with Sasuke, which never made sense
For what did he need the Edo Tensei? He didnt care about the War Effort.
He wanted Naruto on the Battlefield, to get Kyuubi. Zetsus Power was used for that.
He was only caring about winning after Juubi was out, so he could use Mugen savely.
Obito's motivation for working with Sasuke is because he was an Indra reincarnation who could potentially be linked to the Gedo Statue and used as a spare to revive real Madara. By the end of the series it seems like, everyone has mangekyo but it actually supposed to be quite rare. He talks about his at least twice with Zetsu in the build up to the war. He even throws Sasuke at massively powerful enemies in order to speed up the development of his ocular power and create a need for him to use Itachi's eyes.
@@tickledeggz 4 Months, 4 Days, and now you whit a 4 Minutes old Post. Perfect.
@@tickledeggz The thing is, the only person we ever see beating Obito prio to the war was dead at that point. He was the strongest character on the series at the time with almost all the tailed beasts as well as the rinnegan.
For him to use Sasuke as a trading bargain to get madara and other Shinobi revived by Edo Tensei would have made for a better plot
@@Sunaki1000 why would he need the edo tensei? Umm so he can actually have people to fight with him outside of white zetsus hello
The "Trash!" Clip is funny every damn time! Got me rolling, lol 🤣
Madara was literally living in the same village as the Second Hokage, so he could have been watching from the shadows and copied the hand signs, but never actually planned on using Edo, but still understood how to perform the signs
Kishi just didn't care to explain lol
Exactly lol
@@jerichopagtama6771 Nah,he was Just dumb
Yea it's not like he had a sharingan or anything...
@@jkacvbhijfn Still, with no explanation or anything implying that, it's just headcanon, us doing Kishimoto's job for him.
They didn't tell you this but the rock crushed more than obito face, it crushed half of his brain too lol
0:45 I honestly think for the most part Obito was bluffing.
He was walking around claiming to be Madara, and all his showings of strength indicated that to the Kage. However, instead of breaking apart and submitting when Obito called for War (Which is what i suspected was the initial plan) they were like "Aight bro square up"
Another thing worth mentioning is that the dude was literally going from the summit, to the Rain Village for the Rinnegan, which would have absoulutely dominated everyone solo with minimal difficulties. The Leaf village would have the "easiest" time given they had fought it before. But Obito would have been able to do what Madara did against the alliance. Dude has 7 Tailed Beasts on his side + the Rinnegan + he can't be hit. He had a much better chance then you'd think without Edos
Edit: to clarify a bit. Obito with the Rinnegan is on par with Edo Madara. So he has the power to contend with the Kage. With all the White Zetsu in one located place by sheer numbers alone would be able to overwelm the nameless fodder of the alliance. Without Naruto or Killer B, Kakashi and Gai aren't doing anything to Obito at this point, even with the Leafs knowledge about the Rinnegan and all its powers. No matter what the alliance had, the sheer number of Zetsu, the 7 Tailed Beasts and an equivalent of Edo Madara, all at the same time? I really don't think it was that hopeless for Obito to win.
That said, he should have been more patient, he already showed himself at the summit to be more then capable of finding Naruto and B. Had he not of declared war, Naruto and B would have just been under watch there respective villages. Go capture B, then take Naruto, you win. Even if Naruto or B tried to fight back niether stood a chance at this point. And if you were that scared, jjst take your eye back from Kakashi.
Its so frustrating to see People constantly talking about him and his Chances to win.
Just reread the Chapter where he uses the Zetsus Transformation. He never intended to win the War.
He wanted to lure out Naruto, capture him and then start Mugen whit Juubi.
Beating the Nations is pointless for him at that Point of the Story. The entire War was a Bluff.
Yeah not taking the eye back was one of the biggest plot hole. He already abandoned his former life as obito so he shouldn't care about that he gave it to kakashi as a gift. The only reason kishimoto didn't have him take it back is because it would have made obito unstoppable.
@@arclight7892 exactly plot preservation. obito was restricted by plot.
@@Sunaki1000 The problem is that he never managed to capture Naruto, without the Edo Tensei he would never have gotten Kinkaku and Ginkaku to revive the 10 Tails. -- And even though he was strong he would be easily overwhelmed by the 5 Kages, 50,000 ninjas, Naruto, kakashi, Kurama, Guy, Bee and the 8 Tails. What the hell did Obito plan to do when the Alliance finished eliminating all the Zetsu and joined Naruto, Kakashi, Guy and Bee to fight him?
He was barely able to handle Kakashi and Naruto alone, Obito being decimated by the shinobi alliance, the shinobi alliance could easily spam jutsus on him until Kamui stopped working, which was their initial plan and it just didn't work because they couldn't stop Juubi, something Obito wouldn't have here because he would never have Ginkaku and Kinkaku.
Not to mention Kakashi that after the arrival of the shinobi alliance, he, Naruto, Gai and everyone was restored by the medical ninjas, he didn't even have the Bijuus because Naruto removed all of them from his control, the only thing he had was the Gedo Mazou who was being beaten by Guy and Bee.
@@Sunaki1000 that would have been a more interesting plot. However, he would have still lost...badly
Obito did a lot of dumb things in the war, for example, he risked not going for Kakashi who still had his eye and fighting him although Kakashi was his main weakness cuz of Kamui
Plot armour. Everybody knows dual MS Obito claps the verse. The writer was on some bullshit. He just kept nerfing villains.
@@roycedsouza4632 yeah. And he suddenly was not able to use kamui for some reason as juubito while madara can use it. The only thing he lacked with his single kamui was attacking power since he already had a near perfect defense with it so when he got offensive abilities as juubito, the writer had to nerf him being vulnerable.
@@arclight7892ugh Ik man
I agree on this one. I think he deffo underestimated his opponents and overestimated Zetsus. However, there's still a chance that he gets a bit of Kurama from Naruto (or Minato), and from there it would be basically the same story with or without Kabuto (summons 10-Tails, becomes Juubito, being allowed to use his own Sharingan and it's GG). I also would like to see smth like this, in the rewrite maybe 👀 (and maybe Kabuto and Madara come after this or smth like that idk 🤷♂️)
Well yeah that was his Plan from the Start. Capturing Naruto by forcing him out.
Winning the war doesnt accomplish anything for him.
I don't think he was expecting the 5 nations to team up and organize as swiftly as they did. I also am willing to bet his plan was just to allow the zetsus to infiltrate and catch all the strongest ninja in every village unexpected at once before he ever openly attacked and changed his plans when he met kabuto accordingly.
When you think about it, kabuto caused him to lose the war by forcing him to openly attack instead of this other much better plan of subterfuge. He probably also thought sasuke would be helping when he made that claim.
Good video but you missed one important note. It was thanks to kabuto that obito was even able to clone so many white zetsus. Kabuto captured Yamato and used his wood style dna to amplify the amount of clones white Zetsu could make. Kabuto really carried the war.
No. that was retconed later. All White Zetsu are victims of Kaguya and another earlier Mugen Tsukuyomi.
@@Sunaki1000 everyone knows that, but it doesn't change anything
@@anunluckyguy7586 Well it means they dont have Hashiramas Cells until Kabuto boosts them.
I mean the plan was not to win by direct fight. The plan was to have the alliance beat many Zetsus and them putting their spores on them and shapeshifting among their ranks to kill them by surprise.
If Sakura hadn't figured out the infiltration, Obito would have won before Naruto even arrived
I’m just glad you give us consistent content. These videos hold me down while I wait on the fabulous re write ✍️
This would be fixed really easy saying that the reunion with Kabuto was a flashback and when Obito went to the 5 kage meeting he already has pact with kabuto.
You think obito's plan is the worst?
Madara's plan is much dumber
He's lucky nagato didn't die during the 2nd and the 3rd world wars in ame, like... one of the most dangerous places; he's lucky rin survived during the 3rd war too before obito came; he's lucky rinnegan eyes weren't stolen (by Orochimaru for example), destroyed by konan or sakura or used by nagato for his own goals earlier; he's lucky nagato joined obito; he's lucky all the jinchurikis were alive (gaara whose father tried to kill him 6 times, or naruto and fu which acted rashly due to their hot-tempered personalities and could have been murdered anytime, or utakata who (according to anime) was followed by his own village that wanted him dead), so he could complete his plan; he's lucky minato didn't seal whole kurama into himself and passed away with him; he's lucky isobu resurrected and so-so-so on
He just was going with the flow
😂😂and that's how you know madara being the mastermind all along was an afterthought by the writer
@@t-masterrules5085 definitely, obito was directly planning everything and madara coming back was literally an accident unforeseen by both of them because kabuto was a dumbass.
Right but Rin WAS MANIPULATED in her decisions by the Heart Tag that Madara placed on her. She could not have decided on her will to return to the Leaf. Madara wanted to let Obito see Rin being Chidori'd by Kakashi to make him fall into darkness. The fact she had the heart tag was mentioned when Madara "took back" from Obito the 2nd Rinnegan and said that it was quite funny that "both of them took it away in the same way, by the same person." And right there Obito realised that Madara placed the tag on Rin since he just has been pierced by Hatake in order to become the Juubi's Jinjuriki against Madara's will. IDK how or when Madara placed the tag on Rin but I bet by Black Zetsu by Madara's order when she was kidnapped and fell unconcious, in the same way when Obito was being healed (put) back.
@@grandicellichannel oh, thanks, didn't notice that
@@grandicellichannel the issue with Madaras plan is he realistically never comes back to life in it. Madara got obito on his side, but everything that followed his death was dumb luck in his favor, ESPECIALLY his revival, since he was supposed to be brought back to life via rinne-tensei by nagato or obito, and then proceed from there. Which didn’t happen because obito wasn’t stupid.
Also madara didn’t put the tag on Rin, her death was entirely caused by the ninja since they were the ones who put the bijuu in her, and were the ones who demanded it be returned to them after it got out
Honestly i think Obito by himself actually stands a really good chance at getting naruto and bee. Even with Kakashi and Guy as support he only started the process to revive the ten tails for plot convinience. HOWEVER, given the massive importance the Edo Tensei had during the intial part of the war it is really stupid that Obito did not approach Kabuto or t the very least accept his proposal as soon as he was approached by him.
Actually I would say zetsu were nerfed during the war arc. As before that and in boruto they present an actual threat and being honest if they had their entire arsenal and the same power level consistency throughout they possible don't lose until Naruto gets bijuu cloak. As Naruto made them fodder.
As in earlier parts zetsu can maneuver in and throughout earth and elements itself similar to obito kamui but without a a vortex showing up . Meaning they infiltration game would be relative easy. Or when Mei was gonna kill Sasuke in the hallway her boil style got consumed by and turned into spores by white zetsu which he used to even heal and empower Sasuke. And the fact they can look like and pose as comrades then sneak kill or fuse with multiple zetsu creating a tank zetsu which is extremely dangerous and can take big hits like it's nothing. Yea only because Naruto got the ultimate buff in the war arc giving him a plethora of ways to shut them down. Such as detecting they negative energy. / kurama cloak being so intune with nature it turns zetsu into trees making them null and void. Honestly if Naruto didn't enter the war everyone would have lost to zetsu army alone. Sidenote I think obito didn't think he was alone after all he had Sasuke in wings but that too got scrapped I guess. As once Sasuke got ems surgery and was out and about he didn't ever seem to work on obito side.
Plus I'll add the writer chose to nerf even obito and basically dragged him by the nuts as seriously with the tailed beast paths of pain realistically would have toasted everyone especially if they were up to full potential/ obito having actual rinnegan buffs. As in anime he pretty much turns off the path of pains rinnegan abilities because they have faced and beaten the previous rinnegan abilities based pains that nagato presented.(plot reasoning.) Which is complete bs imagine Naruto and bee vs bijuu that have access to path of pain abilities combined with they unique bijuu arsenal and transformations. Yea both bee and Naruto lost to edo nagato if itachi didn't step in . And he only lost control because after Naruto got swallowed he cud communicate with the dead jinchiriki and tailed beast and somehow talk no justu them to fighting obito control.
Hell if the paths of pain had access to be able to use kamui just like obito yea it would be a wrap.
Plus obito counted on Naruto and bee not being allowed in the war arc which almost happened. So if the scenario played out where the shinobi alliance didn't have Naruto and bee show up to aid yea the war arc probably ends in obito favor but I see your being sarcastic with the video. So it's fine lol
Zetsu was never shown that powerful but we assumed he was holding back until the end when you realize he was always weak.
And the white zetsus wouldn't be that powerful without yamatos hashirama cells.
@@chriswilson7288 White Zetsu was always weak, in fact he got stronger during the War thanks to Kabuto. His transformation abilities are useless against Naruto, which is something Obito would have to deal with, no matter if Naruto's abilities with KCM were plotted or not, Zetsu is getting his ass kicked. Without Edo Tensei Obito is also unable to revive the 10 Tails, as he does not have Ginkaku and Kinkaku.
Since you mentioned Obito's Rinnegan nerf how about we talk about the nerf naruto received, Naruto knows all of the Rinnegan's abilities and throughout the series he is shown to be extremely intelligent when it comes to fighting, as he immediately recognized Juubito's weakness against Sage Art, but at the beginning of the war he proves to be extremely stupid against Nagato's Rinnegan. -- The reality is that Obito's Rinnegan would be extremely useless against Naruto, it would give him more power, but it would just be one more thing that Naruto and Bee would have to deal with.
Without Edo Tensei, the alliance would defeat the Zetsu much sooner, and they would arrive much sooner to support Naruto and Bee, as well as the 5 Kages, Kakashi and Guy could have been with Naruto from the beginning in the fight against Obito, a fight he would lose long before. There is nothing Obito can do against the entire Shinobi Alliance, the only reason things were different in the manga was because he had the Ten-Tails and the Shinobi Alliance was completely defenseless against the Ten-Tails, without the Ten-Tails Obito is having the his ass kicked, medical ninjas can constantly heal Naruto, or Naruto enhances the alliance's abilities, or the fact that the alliance can spam attacks on Obito until he runs out of Kamui, or Kakashi with Kurama's Chakra is in the other dimension and when Obito using Kamui to attack him like he did in the manga.
Another detail is that here Kakashi would be fighting alongside the 5 Kages and the entire Shinobi Alliance, who would tell Kakashi to send clones of Naruto to Kamui's dimension, and even send ninjas to Kamui's dimension to attack Obito from there, Obito's Kamui here would be useless, which would be an even bigger Nerf than the Rinnegan, the alliance would not only pressure Obito, but pressure Kakashi to take the fight seriously.
In the manga as it was only a 1V1 Kakashi could take it easy on Obito instead of sticking a Raikiri in his heart when he used Kamui, but the moment the alliance appears this becomes useless, since they would force Kakashi to fight seriously, none of the Kage would stand still and watch Kakashi have a conversation with Obito, the first thing they would say would be for kakashi to send some ninjas or Naruto's clone to Kamui's dimension, despite Obito having the Rinnegan in this scenario Kamui would be useless.
Just because Obito became embittered doesn't mean he became smarter
Obito thought he’d get both rinnegan lmao
didn't he have both tho?
@@mihaimercenarul7467 no he only was able to whistand the power of one
@@griffix2841 nope he just wanted his kamui
In all truth and in conclusion, Kabuto carried heavy...even when he lost to Itachi.
Ye like Obito be like: Ok imma delete this world just like minecraft
Kabuto kinda was the true villain and wildcard in the war.
This is the same simp who started the 4th Great Ninja War, over a little girl who didn’t like even him. Can you really expect this guy to have his screws on right?
No matter how strong Obito is, he would lose if he fought alone, he would run out of chakra soon enough and die
The fact that Kabuto actually had to power up the white zetsu
" shukaku is the weakest tailed beast " mind you , Matatabi is RIGHT THERE
1:55 bro said *"You're not him."* 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
He really thought he was HIM. Madara, God of the Shinobi.
Chief toad did NOT beat Shukaku. Just because Shukaku didnt have the tools to take down Cheif toad immediately doesnt take away from the fact that water bullets werent doing anyhing to Shukaku's sand defense.
If Naruto didn't use transformation and then woke Gaara up, Chief toad would have eventually poofed away because Shukaku can outlast him.
Also shukaku fought with one arm
Also Shukaku at that point in the story wasn't even a tailed beast that was retconned way later on
Also let's not act as if this is the first time Kishimoto power crept a character from part 1 to hell and back ( remember when hiruzen was supposed to be stronger than Hashirama and Tobirama COMBINED and at his OLD AGE )
@@OneNormalHuman Also Shukaku at that point in the story wasn't even a tailed beast that was retconned way later on
Also let's not act as if this is the first time Kishimoto power crept a character from part 1 to hell and back ( remember when hiruzen was supposed to be stronger than Hashirama and Tobirama COMBINED and at his OLD AGE )
@@conansglasses2645 Yeah, and Kakashi was far weaker in part 1 as well.
It's funny how everyone forgets that naruto didn't defeat shukaku, he woke up gaara by headbutting him breaking the transformation, similar to how minato woke naruto from fully transforming into the nine tails against Pain. If gaara was fully transformed and inside shukaku, naruto would have lost unless he transforms into the nine tails, or at least 4 tails form.
All "relateable villains" have to be kind of dumb because they have to be wrong enough for you average joe to realise they are evil, but also have to believe in their ideas with enough charisma for people to semi ignore certain logical arguments in order to be like "Oh I guess he kinda has a point".
Obito is not stupid, but just an avenger. his plan for war can be guessed. I would call Kaguya and Madara idiots
AND the white Zetsu got a last-minute power boost with [say it with me:] Hashirama cells (provided by the captured Yamato)
Fun fact: even with Kabuto's help, Obito still lost. Madara then revived himself and the rest is history.
I mean the only reason they lost is because Kabuto underestimated Itachi, and also didn't just release him the instant Kotoamtsukami was used. If Itachi never undid the Edo Tensei the alliance wouldn't have been able to help Naruto and B out as fast if at all.
To be fair, the white Zetsus' ability to mimic people was enough to basically checkmate the shinobi alliance. Nobody knew that someone would be able to feel people's bad feelings and killing intent or whatever. No sensory type could do that for instance.
But yeah, not a great plan anyway to declare war on tens of thousands of shinobis all at once. You can't know everyone's jutsus in every single village and somebody might have an unorthodox way to seal you or mess up with your battle plans. 😅
On Obito's defense, he should logically outnumber the whole army by whole orders of magnitude. If every village provided equal numbers, that fraction is way more than their whole population, they are supposed to be *villages*, not cities.
He probably was expecting to distract and bog everyone with Zetsu clones and jump the important ones with a Bijuu or two while everyone was busy and mop everyone else afterwards with bijuudama. But then saw the lot of them and went :"...Are those clones? The don't expect me to believe there are that many ninja on any given village, right?"
Obito with rinnegaan definetely solos if it didn't come to his weakness that is his own second eye.he was tough time fighting naruto,bee and kakashi cuz of his own another eye otherwise before kakshi used his eyes he wasn't even trying to do anything still they do not able to do anything and you are underestimating obito very much cuz in the whole show he was just using kamui but literally he have godly arsenal of jutsus cuz at 15 that kid just summoned the nine tails and he even had put perfect jhinchuriki into genjutsu that is the feat only he was able to pull off,so don't understimate him and him with rinnegaan man that knockout for everyone.
I was thinkin the same shyt Kabuto white ass helped
He could've just summoned the 10 tails far from anyone...using kinkaku ginkaku ...and he would've won...
Don't exist without Kabuto
Remember, Obito needed to have Marada to properly control the 10tails.
Without it, he'd have a very hard time using the 10 tail, and be it close to impossible to become its jinjuriki.
Also, if Sasuke (for some reason) went againts Kabuto and won using plot armor. Orichimaru would have been revived and have edo tensied the entire 4 Kage to beat Obito's ass.
Cause Hashirama can just blitz Orichimaru or talk-talk jutsu Sasuke into submission.
White zetsu are amazingly strong because they now had the original chakra of hashirama to fight some were selected to battle larger opponents for mad stalls.
"And come on the shukaku lost to gamabunta. /trash meme." im dead
It’s funny how in a story like this, you don’t completely notice sone of this as it’s happening. I tend to let the story play out, then place judgements. Though i did break that rule when Kaguya showed up. Other than sone foreshadowing the chapter before (in the form of a weird picture of her), there was no indication she’d show up. She basically said” screw madara, you’re fighting me now”. But some of the stuff pointed out here makes sense. I also would like to point out that if they didn’t get Kabuto’s Edo tensei, but still got Orochimaru’s for the 5 nations, Obito would have gotten has ass handed to him. White Mask obito would have barely been a match for Minato, much less Tobirama or Hashirama.
5:12 Naruto shippuden plot hole bruh you nailed it admin
"Capybara Solos Boruto" I had to use my computer as you can go frame by frame on the computer version of youtube.
Solid points. It could be the war was meant to be a diversion, meant to draw out Naruto so Obito could nab him. If Obito believed completing the 10 Tails would be an autowin, sacrificing his army to achieve that would be in line. Still a big risk, Obito assuming he'd have the chance to grab Naruto before he's just crushed, and it's a gamble betting all of Obito's resources.
Ähm, the Manga directly stated that. He only cared about luring out B and Naruto, winning the War was never a Priority. He didnt realy gain anything from that after all.
Yeah, but with Zetzu's skills he could just as well have stood in the shadows untill Zetzu finds Naruto and Bee and then attack the two directly without having to deal with pretty much every Ninja in the world at the same time.
obito coulda nabbed naruto when he was sleeping. but he chose not to. this series is dumb.
Do we REALLY entirely ignore the fact, that there was absolutely no need to declare war for Obito? All Obito needed was the chakra of the 8-tails and 9-tails. He could have gotten that much easier by using Zetzu to find Naruto and Bee and then attack them directly. Obito and Zetzu would have had a good chance against Naruto and Bee + some additional ninjas to guard them. Those aditional ninjas would worse case be somebody like Kakashi or Yamato, so high Anwu / Jonin level, but not the level of a Kage or reincarnated legendary ninjas like Minato. Also as he was able to use the chakra pulled of the 9-tails by Gin-kaku and Kin-kaku, he could likely have used other methods of getting the chakra of the tailed beasts and use that to summon the 10 tails. That has definitly a much higher chance of success than starting a war against the entire world.
Honestly if obito managed to become ten tails it’s gonna over for them .
Obito´s plan would have been much less dumb if he approached Kabuto in advance.
I bet Kishimoto had a plan for Obito in the war but then remembered Edo Tensei and was like....nah, here it goes. Hence the plothole.
Obito would’ve been enough to destroy them all by himself.
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He could've just kamuied himself next to Naruto to get the kiuby...
Why did he even declare war at all? Like, he could have just covertly captured eight and nine and gotten away with it.
Well the Edos carried the Entertainment. 7:14 comgratulations, you played yourselfe.
I am honestly surprised how many People got that wrong. Obito never cared about beating the Alliance, he just wanted to force Naruto out to the Battlefield to have a easier Time capturing it. That in itselfe is questionable, but as long as hes able to lure Naruto out, his Plan works.
If his Army gets completly stomped is realy of no Consequence.
3:12 äääh, no. It has something to do whit there Chakra, but thats just a strong benifit. Shukaku could in theory train to surpass other Beasts by just beeing a better fighter. Its not like Chakra equals Strenght, otherwhise Kakashi would be fodder.
And he lost to Gamabunta because he was resealed, he wasnt incapitated.
Hahahaha the five Kage doom at the start 8:24
You earned my sub champ
He was going to keep the shinobi alliance busy with the white zetsu army. Him and black zetsu capture the eight tails. Then send sasuke to fight naruto, after take the nine tails from naruto.
I'm curious as to how u will change things in the rewrite seeing this.
Yall never watched a Zombie Movie. One Zombie is weak but 10.000.000 Zombies are not
"Capybara Solos Boruto"
And yet his plan is still millions time better than Madara’s. At least he was alive and actively making decisions while the other was worm food.
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This man really be obito's biggest opp
Nice video
Bro literally united the 5 great nation by declaring war against all of them ☠️☠️. Even hashirama couldn't do that. Bro literally is a goat 🐐.
Just picture a Tobi going to war without the edotensei, with weaker zetsus.
Dude must have had something up his sleeve that he didn't have to use.
That's why he gone to find rinnegan too bad author didn't let him use any rinnegan ability he only ever relied on his kamui even though rinnegan also provided to many haxes
Chess, not checkers. Obito only needed to capture naruto, getting bee is just a bonus for him. The white Zetsu’s transformations are the perfect tool to keep the entire shinobi alliance confused, you saw how they were stalemated in the original just imagine that with every division of the alliance. Kakashi and Guy would have no way to tell which members of their division were Zetsu. Naruto would only be able to access the basic KCM so he’d be slower and weaker when he and bee get to Obito. And considering how Obito was able to deal with KCM2, Bee, Kakashi and Guy using the bijuu as just distractions I’d say he’d be more than capable of taking out KCM1 and Bee before anyone comes to save them. The only thing that might change the course is Sasuke showing up challenging Naruto and getting Koto’d into helping to stop Obito but honestly you’d have to wank sasuke to a million for that to be even remotely possible.
And this entire plot hole could have been avoided simply by switching the order of the scenes around. If Kabuto went to Obito like "Psst, hey kid! Want some... forbidden jutsus?" BEFORE he declared war on the entire world.
Also, on the subject of the alternate reality where Obito didn't have Edo Tensei to give his army of cannon fodder a fighting chance, I like to think he'd take a more sneaky guerilla warfare approach instead of announcing his intentions at this world's equivalent to the UN summit. Picture this:
Its a lovely Monday morning in the village hidden in the clouds. No name ninjas are starting their shift guarding the entrance to the village. They expect it to be just another lazy day of getting paid to sit on your ass and do nothing, when suddenly they see a suspicious individual in the distance casually strolling towards the village entrance. They send a scouting party to intercept him but he effortlessly slaughters them all, except one dude that he allows to escape with a message:
"I'm Madara Uchiha, and I've come to burn this village to the ground and soak the soil in its people's blood!"
"Oh shit! Legendary rogue ninja Madara Uchiha is coming, and he says he's feeling a little genocide-y today!" Relays the messanger to the Raikage and his officers.
"Sunovabitch!" bellows the Raikage. "Who cares if Madara himself is here to attack the village? He's just one guy! Gather all the shinobi at the gate and prepare to fight!"
And so the vast majority of the village's trained fighters gather up at the entrance to the village and mentally prepare themselves to face Obito who they think to be Madara, who is still slowly walking towards the village like an old man on his morning stroll.
"Yo, dude. Not cool coming into our village uninvited like that! We'll have to politely ask you to turn yourself in so we can ship you back to the Leaf village!" Says the Raikage. Obito ignores him and keeps walking, nearly reaching the entrance.
"Not kidding, fam! Not even you can face the might of an entire ninja village!"
Obito stops and looks at the Raikage, smirking. All the gathered shinobi prepare to jump him "An entire ninja village? You think this is my first rodeo, 'fam'?"
In that moment, half of the gathered shinobi suddenly turn on the other half: shanking them in the gut, snapping their necks, kicking them in the balls, performing the "1000 years of death" technique on them, and who knows what else. In just a few minutes, the forces of the Cloud are utterly decimated without Obito even lifting a finger. Only a handful of Jonin, Bee, and the Raikage remain standing against Obito and his army of transformed white Zetsu clones. It turns out, a few weeks before the attack, shinobi of the Cloud got ambushed while on routine missions and slowly got replaced by white Zetsu clones one squad at a time, who with their ability to perfectly mimic a ninja by draining their chakra make them nigh undetectable spies. Bee gets transported to the kamui dimension to be taken care of later, and Raikage will lose to Obito eventually after a long drawn out fight (if Sasuke can take one of his arms, then white mask Obito for sure can take him out). Messenger guy that first warned the village tries to escape but is grabbed by the ankles by a white Zetsu emerging from the ground, and the last thing he hears before getting killed is black Zetsu saying: "A good magician never reveals their secrets. We can't have you go spill the beans to the other villages now."
End of episode.
The rest of the war arc would be the same infiltration happening to another ninja village but this time escapees would be able to warn the remaining 3 villages and we would watch them dealing with an ostensibly weak but extremely insidious enemy that can infiltrate their home turf and strike when their guard is down, Invasion of the Body Snatchers style.
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I can only assume that he wasn't going to war as soon as he declared it, y'know do some prep before sending in the white zetsu. Admittedly that's headcannon, but I doubt obito is thinking white zetsus can hold out until he completes the gedo mazo without any sort of plan, it's just that kabuto sped up the date of war with the edo tensei so there was no need to plan further.
The war was a distraction that was supposed to delay the 5 idiots for Naruto and B to show up for Obito to kill them by absorbing them. and further will go into his scenario plan
It would have made more sense if for example Obito captured Bee, took the 8 tails and then only Naruto remains and that would have been what starts the war. It served no purpose for Obito to start the war but if the 5 great nations were the ones to start it that would have forced Obito to seek help from Kabuto promising him Sasuke.
Shukaku is the third strongest tailed beast, because he has a semi main character controlling him.
He gets the second most techniques as far as I'm aware.
Tails do represent their amount of chakra but not necessarily their strength.
Also i really hate the " Gamabunta defeated him " because no ? He didn't? Did we even watch the same fight ? Naruto had to talk no jutsu gaara Shukaku wasn't actually properly defeated ?
Also back in part 1 , Shukaku wasn't even a tailed beast in the first place
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nice video as usual!
I have an idea for a coming video:
What if the three senins were at konoha when naruto was born (jiraya, good orochimaro, tsunadi)
you can make it in one video, or do it for each senin in a single video.
I use to see zetsu and think he was so cool.
I wish he actually did fight when he was black/white with some kind of cool plant type Jutsu.
Wouldn't the Zetsus lure Naruto out since they brought the war to a standstill once they transformed?
Obito's war plan was a ploy, he never intended to go to war, just to drag everyone away from Bee and Naruto.
@DygoKnight you forgot that if it wasn't for Kabuto the white zetsu would be even more fodder because he had enhance them with Hashirama cells
Bruh, the absolute *memeage* in this video! (I may have laughed too much, but I don't care. 💀💀💀)
Tbh, we don't know if having Kabuto there altered his original war strategy. Maybe he felt with all those S+ rank edos with infinite chakra and regeneration and Madara on the battlefield that open war was a better option, which makes sense in theory, 100k fodder vs 80k fodder. 4 revived kages + madara vs 5 kages (mostly weaker than the edos). 7 tailed beasts vs 2 tailed beasts. On paper, it looks like they should have crushed the opposition with force alone.
Also, disagree on the thing about the number of tails. It was stated in canon to be the false, and the shukaku gamabunta faced wasn't even capable of talking or using the tailed beast bomb, or manipulating sand for anything other than regenerating it's limbs. Plus it had gaara sticking out of its head. The thing was barely conscious.
If I were Obito, and did not have help from Kabuto, I would have applied a lot of pressure by having zetsus sneak attack civilian villages or cities and apply the pressure there. Spread the alliance forces thin, wear down all of the fodder ninja, force the Daimyos of the countries to surrender and if the alliance still refuses to give up the remaining tailed beasts, I would shift gears and attack the shinobi villages with the power of the tailed beasts and the rinnegan, with shinobi forces spread thin from reduced numbers trying to cover too much ground. I would have kept Sasuke close and had him use his new EMS to back me up and give him his revenge on the leaf.
Also it's worth mentioning that based on what Madara said, it was always the plan for him to be revived and cast the infinite Tsukuyomi, though not through edo tensei. So unless Obito was planning to betray Madara and not revived him (definitely possible) he still would have had that ace up his sleeve.
2:16 nah white mask obito even without the bijui would deck the hokage. Kcm 1 naruro was faster then the fourth raikage. Then obito was able to spar with kcm 2 naruto pretty comfortably. So hes faster/stronger then their fastest/strongest. Also they have no way to deal with kamui. The only reason naruto was able to blow of his mask was kakashis kamui. Minato was only able to beat a much younger/weaker obito because flying raijin is a hard counter. The kage have no counter like that and they are also slower /weaker.
What an integral question!
Here's what I came up with.
Obito wasn't too fond of his chances, which was why he went to great lengths to stop the summit or weaken the Gokage. He admitted that it would have been nice if one of them were weakened to the point they could be captured.
I think it was as Raikage later assumed: he was trying to get the remaining Jinchuuriki to come out into the open, or be herded into one place, where Kisame could find out about later, and perhaps catch them there.
And he would bring back the real Madara if those two admittedly shaky plans didn't work.
Kabuto entering the fray gave him more options, including the one to delay reviving Madara.
Its stated that obito has the potential to fight the whole shinobi alliance, We never saw it cause madara got all the smoke and obito was fighting in a much different battle feld.
And as u were saying that obito cant defeat the whole 5 kage, alone without the help of the 6 tailed beast your completely wrong because, my bro obito was playing with kcm naruto which is far stronger and faster than the raikage that is definitely the fastest than the other 4 kages
And sunade was shitting her pants just think if she tought obito who she thinks was “madara”. and they basically dont have any counters for the kamui or even the renegans abilities
What will the kages do againts the renegans abilities which obito can use them like pain did, the whole reason obito didnt use the renegans abilities againts kakashi, naruto and the other guys which we see fighting in the series its because obito knew that they know or so naruto knew how to counter the rinegan abilities in which the kage cant caunter it, plus the kage dosent really have any counters for the kamui, they can only counter kamui is tru attacking him for more than five minutes or having another kamui user , but because they cant fight off againts the rinegan obito still slams with or without the 6 tailed beast in his hands.
and u were saying that obito was having a difficult time fighting againts kakashi, bee, might guy and naruto which is not the case because without kakashi having a counter on obitos kamui then obitos just basically bullying bee and naruto, and even when the four are teaming up againts obito, He dosent even look like hes having a difficulty fighting them😂😂, and because of madara kurama gave in, in helping naruto by giving him chackra which so he can fight off againts the enemies, naruto can only use tailed beast trasformation because of kuramas help, which kurama stated that he would rather deal with naruto than madara. i dont see how can kurama open up to naruto without some of the scenes like naruto helping the 4 tails. in smaller terms i dont see how they can defeat obito without kuramas help and chackra.
But if they prob team up together to stop obito before obito can just snach kurama away from naruto they’ll have a high chance of stopping him.
but if obito managed to grab naruto and extract the nine tails things would have ended badly.
and sasuke wont be interested in the war cause he didnt get a little talking with his brother that made him enter the war in the first place.
or maybe in order for obito to win the war and achieve his own goals is by jumping the kages first, then the whole shinobi alliance then the main characters.
And here we have a bunch of headcanon.
@@Oblivion___ Its actually canon WTF???
Honestly if the white zetsu army had more unique and powerful zetus like the sprial one I could see why obito would declare war
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My theory probably was going to learn how to use the Edo Tensei but some how found out Kabuto know how to use it because it was madara plan all along so he was going to bring him back some how it just that Kabuto learn it & perfected it to his liking & all that happen off screen just like how Kabuto became snake sage(whatever it call) off screen
Obito never wanted Madara back, it's why he was pissed at Kabuto and why he took the ten tails when he was about to get forced into reviving Madara for real. He basically usurped Madara's plan.
Obito wanted to create the Ninja equivalent of SAO.
Obviously such a stupid plan means he had to die.
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and don't forget, the White Zetsu got stronger because Kabuto captured Yamato
obito probably could’ve beat the five Kage with the rinnegan but if the alliance also fought him, he’s cooked
No impossible. of course it can. but he is weaker than Madara and the 5 Kage will have more chances than they had with Madara
Hmm idk about this one chief. Obito was playing around with naruto,bee,guy,and kakashi if he really wanted to I think he could have beaten them and never gave them enough time to figure him out. But with all the edos on his side he wasn’t in any rush or felt pressured until the edos started losing and he rushed the 10 tails rebirth
playing around doesn't mean you should have your jutsu dissected and eventually break your mask.
@@167kinggam dio vs jotaro? 6 paths madara vs guy? Itachi vs sasuke? All these characters from the top of my head were playing around with their enemy and then got their ability dissected. Even after his mask got shattered, he let kakashi stab him indtead of killing kakashi. He would have soloed the war.
@@step1saysomethingcontrover320 “soloed the war”, SOLOED THE WAR. Without kabuto, Obito would have lost the war in less than a day.
@@167kinggam He is stronger than the 5 kage and the war’s strongest people put together. He even went on a roasting monologue about how they couldn’t make him sweat. If he really tried, then the higher ups wouldn’t stand a chance, then after dealing with them, he could just unleash the bijuu on the rest of the fodder. Unless you got scaling for anyone over Obito, my argument stands.
@@step1saysomethingcontrover320 the bijuus get dealt with handily by naruto and bee alone. Zetsus are fodder. That leaves obito against the entire shinobi alliance, which he has no chance of winning. What excuse are you gonna say….”oOooh kAmuUii”, yeah kakashi’s got kamui too🤣. Only decent weapon obito has is the gedo statue.
The only thing you didn't mention is Hidan
I mean hey, it's the thoughts that counts
Obito had 7 tailed beasts and gedo statue as well
If only Obito didnt taunts the kage and proposing a war, he might be able to keep his facade as a mysterious and silly masked akatsuki that happened to have a sharingan...
The 5 nations already brewing some conflict anyway thanks to Sasuke's action. Im pretty sure if Obito didnt poses himself as Madara, Raikage and probably Tsuchikage will have a major conflict against Leaf Village because Sasuke's status as a rogue villain ninja and the Leaf's policy to capture him alive...
Plus zetsu was buffed by kabuto right?
Obito explaining his plan to aizen before joining with obito
Aizen: your plan is equal to me bringing only the top 6 espada an army of hollows against the whole 13th court guard squad are you dumb or stupid
5:21 someone please explain this meme
You underestidimate how strong Obito is. If Kaguya is a God (which ootsutsukis are), Hagoromo was a half god and Obito had a Rinnegan so he had the power of a half god
That's not how that works, and he could barely control one of the Rinnegan let alone both.
I guess Obito thought he could capture Naruto and unleash the ten tails on everyone? It’s still a stretch though. lol