The 2022 TM Racing are vastly changes this year - ALL models got updates. :) I'm a TM Racing owner, and watch them all of the time. The new frames and chassis updates are even more narrow now! 💪 Love my TM Racing & Honda bikes!!!
I picked up a 300 mx. It makes my YZ125 feel like a tugboat in comparison. Thing corners like lightning. Engine is mean as hell. Only two stroke I've been on that doesn't get yarded by 450s on straights. In fact, I can now yard THEM. A shootout without TM isn't a shootout. It's 3 and a half KTM's
Don't hold ur breath but it would be awesome. Still have a pristine 06 RM85 bought for my son & revamped whole bike. It's a ripper! We love it & want a new 125. Will be KTM or Yamaha..if Suzuki don't build a new 125cc bike. #maxima
My 05 rm125 is the best handling motocross bike I have ever ridden. Fast 125 I have rode but haven’t rode a newer KTM125 but have had 2 ktm150sx and it’s close. rm125 probably has little better bottom end.
I love how they put so much effort into the 125 but I wish they did it with all the other bikes and tested them in many different conditions but dammm they sound so good
We do with every shootout. Sometimes the video is the last piece to the puzzle. We aren't first on 4 stroke shootouts because we are racing them every weekend and taking them to different tracks over several months. You aren't going to find out what breaks or really much on a one day shootout ever. We use our faster riders for the videos but ALWAYS have a wide variety of test riders from young/old/fast/slow/skinny/fat. Don't believe us? Follow us on our social channels if you don't already. Thanks for watching!
I’d still pick the Yamaha only cuz I had an 05 and it took 2 years to blow the motor and I rode it almost everyday. Plus the exhaust tone sounds way better and it looks sick
@@rapscallion3421 I blame Honda mostly, tree huggers were just a way to get what they wanted. Honda never liked 2t and only made them to compete in Mx in the 70’s. MotoGP switching to 4t had nothing to do with Cali. Honda is the main reason they were banned in MX and MotoGP. I hate Honda for what they did and I own two (03 CR250, trx400ex).
Kawasaki need to resurrect their KX125 ~ 2 Stroke ❤🔥💀 I like the YZ125 as my pick from this shootout. As a recreational rider I think this would suit me best. I priced the new 2022 YZ125 here in Australia, and it is way more expensive than in the USA. Best deal I could get was $10,990 !! We have a few local dealers for GasGas, on the east coast here but haven't priced one, would probably be a bit less expensive than the Yamaha, and maybe a better option for the budget. But I do like the new YZ 125 🙃
Yes Boring.... I make 3 Companies to sell 1 Product in different Colors. High price, and many pieces.... Why? Normally when they make many pieces its not so expensive.....people laughing about suzuki but ktm didn't change so much (only higher price)...
I'm super glad we've got 2-strokes to ride after the magazines bitched for years and nearly killed them (not all magazines but most). That said, it looks like we've got a good bunch to choose from. Since we not all pros, I would bet most of us would be happy with any one of these rigs; I know that I would. The eval? Well, sometimes I think a lot of these testers would bitch if you hung them with a new rope. I think there's something in there for everybody and the way we now personalize our bikes.....just how much real difference is there? Enough to sell magazines, I'd say................we'll see how they do at the races, not just the pros. It has been amazing how very good the original design was with just small updates. We'll see how good the new layout is as the year rolls by. There simply is no bike as fun as a responsive 125......they seem to weight nothing at all!!
@@benvitale9881 Nope, a fella needs both to help him begin to narrow it down. I'm nearly too old at 75 to ride but still am doing it. I used to ride the big 465s and 500's but now am down to smaller 2-strokes. But thanks and hang in there.
I’ve heard the Yamaha has been having transmission problems and supposedly has a recall out for a spring or something. Does anyone know it has any other problems
@@donalddonaldson7211 th-cam.com/video/qGTyhVIl9HY/w-d-xo.html check the comments seems it's happening to alot of people and there is a recall on the detent spring 👍
GREAT TEST not quiet a full house but a comprehensive test on the four bikes that they had nice work . I ride a 2019 Sherco ser 125 and l like the bike in general after a few changes i.e. S3 pegs factory lowering link (20mm) lowered seat (20mm) gearing to suit hard enduro mid and top end power are awesome but it is a little hard to get it to snap off the bottom dew to what it seems to be heaver fly wheels which do work well for single track i tried to buy a ktm 150 but couldn't find one for love nor money so l gave the sherco a run and l have not been disappointed they certainly no how to build a great bike l cant wait till next test hopefully you guys can get a full house to test time cheers
@@sawsapo8901 I have an 05 YZ125 with god knows how many hours. they are also know for gearbox failures but mine has been fine. how did you get 50 hours already on a new 2022?
you forgot the TM 125mx! very competitive bike, very strong pull and quality components... the other bikes are easier to ride but once you understand the TM power dellivery you can't love them
I'm a beginner rider in my late 30's almost 40 lol never ridden a bike idk why it's always been my dream I used to get cycle world magazine as a kid watch mx. I feel like I'm meant to be on a bike idk they nay be weird to say but I strongly feel I'm meant to ride. What should I get to start practicing and racing and also doing enduro?
Guau que excelente demostración de ambas motocicletas y muy buenos corredores yo me quedo con la Husqvarna claro aunque tiene mejor torque la Ktm saludos muchacho y les felicito muy buen video gracias por todas sus recomendaciones y explicación de cada motocicleta 🇵🇦🤝
I love KTM and I feel the same way, use to have a GASGAS 250 EC back when they where "GASGAS" sad to see them change into a red KTM and the husky to me is always gonna be a ugly slower KTM
you guys bllow. my mind.....i was one of he first yamaha motocross racers.......we had ti build competitive. machnes.... whats more important to me....can yiou take rhat. yamaha. and modufy it to. beat. the other. bikes or. is it hopeless.....
Has anyone had trouble with the cranks on your 2022 ktm125sx? There's a recall on the cdi box but apparently their bottom ends are different this year. Anyone have info
Honda is the one that pushed for the ban in Mx and MotoGP. KTM is the only one that continued to develop them. I’d prefer to support the one that has kept them alive vs the one that tried to kill them and I own an 03 CR250.
Don't believe the hype" Yamaha is the best bike there, and I witnessed a dyno on it...41+ horse power factory exhaust...factory everything! Great work boys! Great video! 👏💪🤙🇨🇦 I've always been a CR man myself!! But.....we know the story there! So I bought a YZ & KTM"😂✌️
Don't believe anything you hear, and believe only half of what you see" is my motto since I was 15 yrs old! 😂 I don't care if you don't believe me... I get it😂 I just hope your that critical about everything you see and hear cause we swim in a sea of lies! 😂
u guys can complain all u want about 3 of the same bikes, but at least ktm still makes big bike 2 strokes🤷🏽♀️ let alone innovating them with electric start, EFI, and a map switch for ‘23
do you think we could get some old 125 in there too for the comparison? Please. 90s cr kx rm that make the line up look way better. looking a little too euro out there. i can hardly see that yamabopper they move to europe or something lol got contaminated with that ugly orange bar pad!
Yamaha and KTM are so close it just comes to preference and price I'm YZ 125. Please Honda sneak into Yamaha 2stroke factory and take some notes please
Google 2022 KTM/Husqvarna/Gasgas 125 recall, and the ridiculous solution. Let’s see which of these bikes will be running after some hours on the engine…
Shootouts are pretty stupid. Especially when you see them flip flopping about opinions of pretty much the same freaking bike. KTM, Husky, and GasGas are the same damn bike, with interchangeable parts across the board. These 3rd tier pro riders opinions pretty much mean dick to me because if you have ever met one of these guys, all they do is complain that the track isn't perfect, and that the bike isn't setup for them. They want every bike to be exactly how they want it, and when it isn't they refuse to adapt any riding style to fit the machine. Their opinions don't apply to 99% of the consumer, yet they put these videos out with all of these meaningless opinions. If you are a pro rider you are definitely never taking a bike you haven't personalized, out on the track. So stop reviewing these bike like that. If you are a casual rider you probably won't hardly touch a clicker and won't even notice a difference between any of these bikes. If you are an enthusiast you probably have 5 or 6 different bikes, for 5 or 6 different purposes, and actually like differences in clutch feel, suspension settings, and power delivery, and adapt your riding to each bike. If you took the time to read this whole comment, the moral of the story is take every word of a pro rider shootout opinion with a grain of salt.
Yamaha makes great work on bikes, racing and for customer. Test is Boring, seems 1 vs 1.... I make 3 Companies to sell 1 Product in different Colors. High price, and many pieces.... Why? Normally when they make many pieces its not so expensive.....people laughing about suzuki but ktm didn't change so much (only higher price)...
Honda needs to revive their cr125
for sure
Thank-you Yamaha for continuing to build a 2-stroke MX lineup as well as awesome sport quads! Love & own em all. #Yamaha #KTM #Maxima
In 1973, when I was 16, I bought a new Suzuki TM125 motocross bike for about 540 dollars out the door. It was a bad ass 125 for the time!
Thank God, no garbage music over the beautiful sounds from those motors!
The 2022 TM Racing are vastly changes this year - ALL models got updates. :) I'm a TM Racing owner, and watch them all of the time. The new frames and chassis updates are even more narrow now! 💪
Love my TM Racing & Honda bikes!!!
I picked up a 300 mx. It makes my YZ125 feel like a tugboat in comparison. Thing corners like lightning. Engine is mean as hell. Only two stroke I've been on that doesn't get yarded by 450s on straights. In fact, I can now yard THEM.
A shootout without TM isn't a shootout. It's 3 and a half KTM's
I'm always gonna hope to see a revival of the RM line. Love these little 125 two strokes
Don't hold ur breath but it would be awesome. Still have a pristine 06 RM85 bought for my son & revamped whole bike. It's a ripper! We love it & want a new 125. Will be KTM or Yamaha..if Suzuki don't build a new 125cc bike. #maxima
My 05 rm125 is the best handling motocross bike I have ever ridden. Fast 125 I have rode but haven’t rode a newer KTM125 but have had 2 ktm150sx and it’s close. rm125 probably has little better bottom end.
The RM was the best 125 in history
I have a 1993 RM125 that lived for 15+ years tucked away in a basement. It’s such a blast from the past, I love it.
Ill keep my 20 yr old built 144.
Love it when we already know the position of each bike before the video.
YAMAHA FOR LIFE! Love my 250
I love how they put so much effort into the 125 but I wish they did it with all the other bikes and tested them in many different conditions but dammm they sound so good
We do with every shootout. Sometimes the video is the last piece to the puzzle. We aren't first on 4 stroke shootouts because we are racing them every weekend and taking them to different tracks over several months. You aren't going to find out what breaks or really much on a one day shootout ever. We use our faster riders for the videos but ALWAYS have a wide variety of test riders from young/old/fast/slow/skinny/fat. Don't believe us? Follow us on our social channels if you don't already. Thanks for watching!
It’s cool to finally see you guys testing at LACR.
Cali baby for life! #KTM #Maxima #Ford
I’d still pick the Yamaha only cuz I had an 05 and it took 2 years to blow the motor and I rode it almost everyday. Plus the exhaust tone sounds way better and it looks sick
I have been reading / watching this exact shootout since the late 70s, when Jody first started doing the box! I love it!
awesome someone with experience which 125 2stroke would you pick?
I love people complaining about 3 of the 125’s being the same. At least they still make 2 strokes unlike some Japanese manufacturers…
Even if they are the same in my opinion they all look vastly different so im happy with that. The more 2 strokes the better!
I hate them because of the air forks and if you take a old Honda or Kawasaki 2 stroke it would still whoop the Austrian brands.
You can blame the tree huggers in
California for Japan pulling out of the 2 stroke
@@rapscallion3421 I blame Honda mostly, tree huggers were just a way to get what they wanted. Honda never liked 2t and only made them to compete in Mx in the 70’s. MotoGP switching to 4t had nothing to do with Cali. Honda is the main reason they were banned in MX and MotoGP. I hate Honda for what they did and I own two (03 CR250, trx400ex).
This was very well shot. Those panning non-action shots look like a video game with hyper-realistic graphics. Well done.
Kawasaki need to resurrect their KX125 ~ 2 Stroke
❤🔥💀
I like the YZ125 as my pick from this shootout. As a recreational rider I think this would suit me best.
I priced the new 2022 YZ125 here in Australia, and it is way more expensive than in the USA.
Best deal I could get was $10,990 !!
We have a few local dealers for GasGas, on the east coast here but haven't priced one, would probably be a bit less expensive than the Yamaha, and maybe a better option for the budget. But I do like the new YZ 125 🙃
I ride a yamaha but the gasgas is a great bike and would probably be a comparable price there.
I only see two different bikes there, really…
3 ktm and one YZ
we need tm in the shout out then we got 3 different brands
So true!
Yes Boring.... I make 3 Companies to sell 1 Product in different Colors. High price, and many pieces.... Why? Normally when they make many pieces its not so expensive.....people laughing about suzuki but ktm didn't change so much (only higher price)...
What is a good bike for a 60-year-old?
Yamaha YZ 125 is my favorite bike
Great view of track and mountains! That was different.
Great video guys. Let's see the exact same thing for the 250 2T! Thanks
They need to add the 125 class to the Nationals.
Awesome guy's Josh great review of 125 shoot out brilliant top man👍🤟❤️
I'm super glad we've got 2-strokes to ride after the magazines bitched for years and nearly killed them (not all magazines but most). That said, it looks like we've got a good bunch to choose from. Since we not all pros, I would bet most of us would be happy with any one of these rigs; I know that I would. The eval? Well, sometimes I think a lot of these testers would bitch if you hung them with a new rope. I think there's something in there for everybody and the way we now personalize our bikes.....just how much real difference is there? Enough to sell magazines, I'd say................we'll see how they do at the races, not just the pros. It has been amazing how very good the original design was with just small updates. We'll see how good the new layout is as the year rolls by. There simply is no bike as fun as a responsive 125......they seem to weight nothing at all!!
I feel you need a test that tells all the positive not the negative😁🤙
@@benvitale9881 Nope, a fella needs both to help him begin to narrow it down. I'm nearly too old at 75 to ride but still am doing it. I used to ride the big 465s and 500's but now am down to smaller 2-strokes. But thanks and hang in there.
This is the lifestyle I want
Love seeing LACR…I know it’s further than GH, But it is a great track.
And all 4 need new top ends after that day with those guys.
THAT GAS GAS LOOKS SO SWEET .
Those honda valley shots look dope
I’ve heard the Yamaha has been having transmission problems and supposedly has a recall out for a spring or something. Does anyone know it has any other problems
Haven’t heard of it
@@donalddonaldson7211 th-cam.com/video/qGTyhVIl9HY/w-d-xo.html
check the comments seems it's happening to alot of people and there is a recall on the detent spring 👍
Yeah, you're buying an outdated Yamaha, that's the other problem 😂😂😂
Yea to get the spring replaced in the clutch because some where slipping off, but they said it was highly unlikely that the spring would pop off
Yamaha def does have issues nothing new
Damn man. I guess I'll be getting another 2006 yz125 lol
GREAT TEST not quiet a full house but a comprehensive test on the four bikes that they had nice work . I ride a 2019 Sherco ser 125 and l like the bike in general after a few changes i.e. S3 pegs factory lowering link (20mm) lowered seat (20mm) gearing to suit hard enduro mid and top end power are awesome but it is a little hard to get it to snap off the bottom dew to what it seems to be heaver fly wheels which do work well for single track i tried to buy a ktm 150 but couldn't find one for love nor money so l gave the sherco a run and l have not been disappointed they certainly no how to build a great bike l cant wait till next test hopefully you guys can get a full house to test time cheers
I’m not going to lie I’m abit sad we’re the Yamaha placed , but it is what it is
Almost 3hp difference on 125 is a lot, and yamaha is a brand new bike while ktm is like 5 years old
Yamahas also way cheaper
also been reading about gearbox issues with the new YZ.
i have one with 50h no problems
@@sawsapo8901 I have an 05 YZ125 with god knows how many hours. they are also know for gearbox failures but mine has been fine. how did you get 50 hours already on a new 2022?
@@yota4004 read about the premature crank failures people are experiencing with the Austrian bikes lol
@@AUSTIN_457 I have!
@@yota4004 i have the bike since january i ride 2 day in the week...
you forgot the TM 125mx! very competitive bike, very strong pull and quality components... the other bikes are easier to ride but once you understand the TM power dellivery you can't love them
no counterbalancer on ktm group 125….
TEAM YAMAHA FOR THE WIN🦾
it got last
rad video!
Yamaha vs a bunch of ktms. Honda please please bring back the CR 2 stroke. Oh and Yamaha for life
My home track
I'm a beginner rider in my late 30's almost 40 lol never ridden a bike idk why it's always been my dream I used to get cycle world magazine as a kid watch mx. I feel like I'm meant to be on a bike idk they nay be weird to say but I strongly feel I'm meant to ride. What should I get to start practicing and racing and also doing enduro?
The title should read.. Yamaha vs Ktm.. 3 on 1 battle here..
If you get an Apex head for a Yz125 you’ll be in business and hanging with Austrian bikes.
Yamaha’s stock exhaust would look so much better if it were chrome like the other bikes...
Guau que excelente demostración de ambas motocicletas y muy buenos corredores yo me quedo con la Husqvarna claro aunque tiene mejor torque la Ktm saludos muchacho y les felicito muy buen video gracias por todas sus recomendaciones y explicación de cada motocicleta 🇵🇦🤝
If the gasgas has soft suspension, can you not just pit more pressure in the forks and rear suspension?
Amazing video 😍😍
Sad that 3 of them are the same
I love KTM and I feel the same way, use to have a GASGAS 250 EC back when they where "GASGAS" sad to see them change into a red KTM and the husky to me is always gonna be a ugly slower KTM
I want both my subscriptions to your actual magazine
you guys bllow. my mind.....i was one of he first yamaha motocross racers.......we had ti build competitive. machnes....
whats more important to me....can yiou take rhat. yamaha. and modufy it to. beat. the other. bikes
or. is it hopeless.....
Change your jetting on the yz125 to mimic yz250 will really clean it up.
every motorcross guy looks the same. like someone who is 16 but with a mustache
Such Sweet Sounds 👊 👍😉 Thnx MXA .. Appreciate ya Josh 😃
Yes, yes, yes those are sweet sounds! And those views with all the Snowcapped mountains: San Bernardino? Barbie
Pls can u do a review on the 85cc gas gas
holy shakey cam. that intro speech could use a gimble or something.
Where's tm racing?
wheres Fantic?
@@fkhan577 yeah. But its basically a yamaha yz
He talked about it in the intro
KX AND RM WHERE YOU AT
It is a shame Honda does not make a 2stroke anymore😭
Nice basically KTM vs Yamaha that’s it
This is basically A 1v1 just three of them have different colored plastics
It’s basically just a Yamaha and KTM comparison
heyyyyy thats the housepads lol
Has anyone had trouble with the cranks on your 2022 ktm125sx? There's a recall on the cdi box but apparently their bottom ends are different this year. Anyone have info
Where are the tm and fantic 125
Where is Tm and Fantic??
Sherco?
Now the about the YZ 125.. the funny thing about this is that the lowly low horsepower Yamaha always wins the 125 Nationals expect more this year too.
MXGP points table tells a different story. With minimal work the Yamaha is just as fast as a pumpkin. Nobody races stock bikes anyway.
110's on the rear?!
🙏🙏🙏
The fantic would have eaten them all
tm ..sherco makin soon tho
Imagine if Japanese manufacturers made 2T’s again… BESIDES YAMAHA. WE WANT THE HONDA/KAWI 2 strokes. These other machines can suck a choad.
Why though, they still are invested in their riders enough to still make 2t’s so the only 4 stroke manufacturers can suck a choad if anything
Yeah totally, thats why Yamaha and KTM won all the 125 shootouts and the rest did not..
1996 …Yamaha YZ125
1997 …Yamaha YZ125
1998 …Yamaha YZ125
1999 …Yamaha YZ125
2000 …Yamaha YZ125
2001 …Yamaha YZ125
2002 …Yamaha YZ125
2003 …Yamaha YZ125
2004 …KTM 125SX
2005 …Yamaha YZ125
2006 …Yamaha YZ125
2007 …Yamaha YZ125
2008 …Yamaha YZ125
2009 …Yamaha YZ125
2010 …Yamaha YZ125
2011 …KTM 125SX
2012 …KTM 125SX
2013 …KTM 125SX
2014 …KTM 125SX
2015 …Yamaha YZ125
2016 …KTM 125SX
2017 …KTM 125SX
Honda is the one that pushed for the ban in Mx and MotoGP. KTM is the only one that continued to develop them. I’d prefer to support the one that has kept them alive vs the one that tried to kill them and I own an 03 CR250.
@@seashackf1 well that’s just gay. I didn’t know that.
Don't believe the hype" Yamaha is the best bike there, and I witnessed a dyno on it...41+ horse power factory exhaust...factory everything! Great work boys! Great video! 👏💪🤙🇨🇦 I've always been a CR man myself!! But.....we know the story there! So I bought a YZ & KTM"😂✌️
wow
And we're supposed to believe you why?
Don't believe anything you hear, and believe only half of what you see" is my motto since I was 15 yrs old! 😂 I don't care if you don't believe me... I get it😂 I just hope your that critical about everything you see and hear cause we swim in a sea of lies! 😂
@@rfiskillingussoftly6568 you're*
u guys can complain all u want about 3 of the same bikes, but at least ktm still makes big bike 2 strokes🤷🏽♀️ let alone innovating them with electric start, EFI, and a map switch for ‘23
EASILY picking Yamaha for keeping it hardcore with YZs and sport quads in this age of wackery
do you think we could get some old 125 in there too for the comparison? Please. 90s cr kx rm that make the line up look way better. looking a little too euro out there. i can hardly see that yamabopper they move to europe or something lol got contaminated with that ugly orange bar pad!
motor head just did that...
@@sawsapo8901 when?
th-cam.com/video/mPZQp8hH4os/w-d-xo.html
Just came in my pants hearing that ktm
Tester on the Husky click 4th(and it pulled him) to make the 100ft uphill triple at LACR. Thats impressive on a 125.
So Yamaha vs Austria
Yamaha and KTM are so close it just comes to preference and price I'm YZ 125. Please Honda sneak into Yamaha 2stroke factory and take some notes please
where is TM
This video could’ve been a lot shorter since there’s only two bike
Does anyone know how much faster these bikes are than a KX-112, or CRF-150R ?
Night and day difference
4:45 what ?? look at bar
is there rieju> ktm is the best also gas gas have diff brkas clutch susp and tuning and its less
WAKE UP HONDA!!!! BRING THE MIGHTY CR 125R BACK!!!!!!!!!😎
where is the TM
watch the video
Google 2022 KTM/Husqvarna/Gasgas 125 recall, and the ridiculous solution. Let’s see which of these bikes will be running after some hours on the engine…
How does one bike compare to the 20 year old yamaha. Hmm
Yamaha the best
atk was best frm usa atk 125 rotax 250 406 260 etc
should have brought out a 96 cr for shits
yz
Fantic?
watch the video
Well, the yz450f or the yz300 MIGHT be the most fun yamaha even for a beginner. Surely not the 125 ………….. but this is a second hand cheapo
Take Japanese made any day!
This video needs a longer intro and filler
Shootouts are pretty stupid. Especially when you see them flip flopping about opinions of pretty much the same freaking bike. KTM, Husky, and GasGas are the same damn bike, with interchangeable parts across the board. These 3rd tier pro riders opinions pretty much mean dick to me because if you have ever met one of these guys, all they do is complain that the track isn't perfect, and that the bike isn't setup for them. They want every bike to be exactly how they want it, and when it isn't they refuse to adapt any riding style to fit the machine. Their opinions don't apply to 99% of the consumer, yet they put these videos out with all of these meaningless opinions. If you are a pro rider you are definitely never taking a bike you haven't personalized, out on the track. So stop reviewing these bike like that. If you are a casual rider you probably won't hardly touch a clicker and won't even notice a difference between any of these bikes. If you are an enthusiast you probably have 5 or 6 different bikes, for 5 or 6 different purposes, and actually like differences in clutch feel, suspension settings, and power delivery, and adapt your riding to each bike. If you took the time to read this whole comment, the moral of the story is take every word of a pro rider shootout opinion with a grain of salt.
Yamaha makes great work on bikes, racing and for customer. Test is Boring, seems 1 vs 1.... I make 3 Companies to sell 1 Product in different Colors. High price, and many pieces.... Why? Normally when they make many pieces its not so expensive.....people laughing about suzuki but ktm didn't change so much (only higher price)...
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