in the video we say that there are crash tests with over 120 tonnes, which is obviously not correct. :) there are some countries where 120 tonnes is allowed in total selected gross weight, but they do not crash test with that weight :) Sorry for the miscommunication .. Want to know Why Electric TRUCK Fires Are Impossible To Put Out, then watch this: th-cam.com/video/-J-pSga2ino/w-d-xo.html
As an Aussie. The amount the deaths that Kenworth and Western star have from contextually survivable crashes show how badly built they are. Although the new X series Stars and T610 KW have improved alot. But Australia has no crash standards for above 4.5T gross trucks. So the Aussie made Kenworth cabovers are the most dangerous fibreglass pop riveted shitboxes around. Where as Volvo, Scania, Man, merc and Iveco all have the same designs that pass Swedish safety standards. So they are head and shoulders above the American brands.
European trucks are safer in preventing the accident, bigger disc brakes, cabins that deform and protect the driver better, better designed suspension etc.
@@marcelo403polo2 if you hit something faster you will get hurt more no matter what. I've seen the damage American truck cabs get vs European in Australia.
@@marcelo403polo2 While this might be true for most states (California for example has a 55mph speed limit), it just means that the long nose of US trucks serves its intended purpose: frontal crash safety. But this doesn't mean that the overall required safety standards of US trucks should be this much lower than of EU speck trucks. Also it's important to note that trucks can get special licenses in the EU to go up to 100kmh or roughly 62 mph, while still being able to maintain the points OP mentioned
@@jms4989Still illegal in my home country (which is in the EU) max here is 90 km/h but most trucks are restricted to 80 km/h which is 55.92 and 49.71 miles per hour, so basically 56 and 50 mph. Or slower if the speed limit says so. And let’s not forget the difficulty of actually getting a truck license. I can’t speak of the entire EU but as far as I know, in my home country, a person needs to pass both a theory and a practical test as well as a urine test in addition to having a car license which also requires a theory and a practical test. Although not required by law, nearly everyone attends a drivers school (so no, a parent cannot teach his/her child how to drive by sitting next to them) and the average is about 40 lessons (for the basic driver’s license). For a truck additional lessons are generally needed.
Lmao! At the 5:50 mark, he accidentally said "European cabover designs with their engine positioned over the cab!" I wonder if he ever caught that mistake? Lol!
These data are provided by an engineer of paccar group: The European truck is used in 70% of the world market, the American truck in 16% approximately, that is to say for every 10 trucks there are 7 European trucks and 1.6 American trucks, knowing that the European truck is the truck that has less deaths per accident and not only that, it is the one that has less accidents per incident. The American truck leads the ranking of deaths per accident, as well as the ranking of accidents per incident, that is to say, having many more European trucks, many more drivers die in American trucks.
@@marcelo403polo2 we are hauling a lot more weight in europe. The weights here are between 40 til 90 metric tons for some Scandinavian countries. The bitter reality for you americans is that our trucks are way more advanced and saver. I think you may be happy for the fact that a lot of euro knowledge and savety now is also put in US rigs otherwise your new trucks still uses the alu cabs with rivits.
@@lanzonova relax dude. I’m Canadian not American. Our standard weight limit on two axels trailer is 40 tons. 3 axels haul more. I’m not truck driver so I don’t know exact numbers. There is also really heavy duty oversized loads as well, where I guess you need special permit. Just don’t compare your oversized weights to North American standard. In US I believe it’s only 80K lbs, so about 36 tons
Long nose trucks are easier to get access to the engine as it doesn't require lifting the entire cab. Both long front and flat front trucks still make it easy to work on the engine.
No matter how safe they make trucks, nothing will change how a person drives, of they drive like there in a fast and furious movie then they're gonna cause a accident
We need underride guards on trailers to be mandatory for all trailers. Up here in NY we lost 3 EMS workers to going under a semi tanker trailer that had jackknifed on the interstate at nite.
in Europe lateral and rear colission test are mandatory on trailers and that's why there's mandatory rails guards on sides and low height bumpers at the rear , to avoid cars to pass under the trailer (this rails act like walls : they stop you, you can't go further under the truck) since those test are mandatory, the amount of cars passing under trucks have decreased significantely (about 70% of safety enhancement)
Nothing would happen, they have a lot of safety mechanisms A good few examples would be the 32 atom bombs the USA lost in crashes, of which 6 are still lost in these following locations: -North Carolina -the Mediterranean Sea -the Pacific Ocean x2 -the Atlantic Ocean x2
120 ton trucks? Sorry what? Sorry but I have a feeling you are making a huge mistake there. For anyone wondering. 120 tons is heavier then your avarage railway locomotive. For example, the Siemens Vectron (Most modern locomotive in Europe as of this date) weights between 80-90 tons. Depanding on the version. Yet this video claims that a truck you see on the road weighs around 50% more then a Siemens vectron? Sorry but I cannot take this information seriously and it makes me wonder how accurate the rest of the information is in this video. Also, the maximum weight of a Truck in the US is 80.000 pounds. that is 36.2 tons. (This includes the cargo they carry) A 120 ton truck would not only destroy the road, But also any bridge it drives over.
He was confused with the imperial tons or didn't specify which was what, this is why i prefer double measure written, so the Yanks... I mean... So the people who use metric systems and Imperial ones don't misunderstand
EN FRANCE, LES TRACTEURS 6X4 OU 6X6 PEUVENT TRACTER JUSQU'À 120 TONNES !!! CERTAINS TRACTEURS 8X4 OU 8X8, PEUVENT TRACTER JUSQU'À 600 TONNES !!! MAIS JE PENSE QUE DANS LA VIDÉO, IL SE TROMPE !!! JC ANONYMOUS PATRIOTE FRANCE. DE GAULLE ET FIER DE L'ÊTRE
Where shall that be? The heaviest road legal vehicles (special transports aside) I know are in Finland, comparable to a US turnpike double with two full size trailers and these can go up to 76 metric tons gross weight. But I like to learn new stuff...
Based on all the crashes between European and American trucks I have seen, I will take the American trucks any day. They are much better built to handle the types of crashes you mostly find here in the U.S. Head-on collisions with European trucks are much more dangerous as the driver's body absorbs all of the impact. European trucks are better at helping the driver prevent a crash. But it's often not the truck driver that causes the crash here in the U.S. This video alone shows how bad the EU trucks did to protect the driver from hard impacts. This is why cabover trucks are not used in the U.S. since trucks here travel at much higher speeds compared to Europe. EU trucks are best suited to slow-winding roads with pedestrians. That's what they are specifically designed for. But in the U.S. there aren't that many pedestrians because distances are too far to walk and most trucks are moving at 70 to 80 Mph on the interstate. So hence EU trucks are best in Europe and U.S. trucks are best for North America. The traffic conditions, speeds, and distances are very different between the EU and North America. So hence the needed design differences.
lane keep assist and auto braking etc don't improve driver awareness! they give drivers a very much false sense of security, seen it plenty of times.....Hell you just gotta drive down the interstate until you hit construction to see how many morons ignore lane ending signs then get mad when you need to switch to the non closing lane or they run right to where the lane closes and expect traffic to stop to let them in. and that's how mile long backups start.
I wonder why couldn't North America US Canada in Mexico copy European crash test models some of the European trucks are sold in Mexico and then drive across the us-mexico border.
These are "tractor trailers", not semi trucks. A "tractor" pulls a "semi trailer". I worked in the trucking industry for over 30 years, "never" heard a tractor called a "semi truck". Elon might call his a "semi truck", but no, they are tractor trailers, big rigs, 18 wheelers.
well comparing both trucks together as an American. European vehicles are just innately safer than the US vehicles main reason is our cars don't have any real competition to make them get better and safer in order to survive like the European market does which is a shame really
...and the USA thinks that other countries' safety standards are crap. Importing trucks to the USA is only permissible if the truck is older than 25 years or the manufacturer pays for US crash tests. But then again, the longer the nose of the truck the more valuable it is -- and European trucks don't have and will not have such noses. These noses render a truck impractical for most European places.
@@McGhinch I agree our regulations are so weird over here in the US not to mention our indicators being in the same housing has our brake lights meaning our indicators are RED rather than amber like they should be
I feel all trucks are safe it's not that a European truck is safer than an American truck or an Australian truck is not safe it depends on how the impact is it depends on the accident all accidents are different
in the video we say that there are crash tests with over 120 tonnes, which is obviously not correct. :) there are some countries where 120 tonnes is allowed in total selected gross weight, but they do not crash test with that weight :)
They act like American trucks do not have the same driver assistance sensors as European trucks. Sensors like proximity warning that automatically applies the brakes if you're too close, lane departure, adaptive cruise control, and whatever else. Me personally, I don't want or like any of that stuff in my truck or my four-wheeler! Some of that stuff is dangerous, and makes your job harder. This is why I prefer older classic long hood trucks from before year 2000!
The European Truck Maker makes a far superior truck than the American Truck Maker in every aspect of building them. The United States should allow the European Truck Maker to invade the States with the better built trucks than the USA Truck. I was told that it is the lack of emissions controls that United States want in the European Truck Maker to implement in their production of trucks. I do not care about this because of other countries that pollute the environment in the world. Bring them here and you see how much better the trucks from Europe are really better than are own. Peace to everyone.
EN FRANCE, LES TRACTEURS 6X4 OU 6X6 PEUVENT TRACTER JUSQU'À 120 TONNES !!! CERTAINS TRACTEURS 8X4 OU 8X8, PEUVENT TRACTER JUSQU'À 600 TONNES !!! MAIS JE PENSE QUE DANS LA VIDÉO, IL SE TROMPE !!! JC ANONYMOUS PATRIOTE FRANCE. DE GAULLE ET FIER DE L'ÊTRE.
in the video we say that there are crash tests with over 120 tonnes, which is obviously not correct. :) there are some countries where 120 tonnes is allowed in total vehicle gross weight, but they do not crash test with that weight :)
Videos of this nature tend to be rather vague, and I am unsure as to why they are so unclear. We are seeking to obtain valuable and meaningful information, not unfounded generalizations. This video, unfortunately, lacked substance and failed to provide any detailed explanations or insights. It was quite disappointing and did not address the Q&A inquiry as expected. Furthermore, the presentation was rather dull and unengaging, lacking any emotional depth or vitality. It was emotionally and energetically draining to watch.
European trailers have side guards that are designed to prevent cars from going underneath the trailer chassis, the same with the rear under-run bar that is designed to prevent a car from going under the rear end of the trailer. You have been making these videos long enough now that I would have thought that you would have a little bit more knowledge of European trucks. Another thing that you failed to mention, is that on European trucks the cab mounts are designed to sheer off in the event of a head-on collision, thus offering more protection to the driver, that is why Volvo and Scania test the strength of their cabs for the purpose.
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in the video we say that there are crash tests with over 120 tonnes, which is obviously not correct. :)
there are some countries where 120 tonnes is allowed in total selected gross weight,
but they do not crash test with that weight :)
Sorry for the miscommunication .. Want to know Why Electric TRUCK Fires Are Impossible To Put Out, then watch this: th-cam.com/video/-J-pSga2ino/w-d-xo.html
"Boss i broke the mirror."
"What happen?"
"The truck fell on it."
As an Aussie. The amount the deaths that Kenworth and Western star have from contextually survivable crashes show how badly built they are. Although the new X series Stars and T610 KW have improved alot.
But Australia has no crash standards for above 4.5T gross trucks. So the Aussie made Kenworth cabovers are the most dangerous fibreglass pop riveted shitboxes around.
Where as Volvo, Scania, Man, merc and Iveco all have the same designs that pass Swedish safety standards. So they are head and shoulders above the American brands.
I Sweden we always have prioritized safety first before appearance!!
Volvo is from Sweden and they are classed very safe
European trucks are safer in preventing the accident, bigger disc brakes, cabins that deform and protect the driver better, better designed suspension etc.
not safer at all. European trucks travel like 20-30 mph slower
@@marcelo403polo2 if you hit something faster you will get hurt more no matter what. I've seen the damage American truck cabs get vs European in Australia.
Especially that they have airbags
@@marcelo403polo2 While this might be true for most states (California for example has a 55mph speed limit), it just means that the long nose of US trucks serves its intended purpose: frontal crash safety.
But this doesn't mean that the overall required safety standards of US trucks should be this much lower than of EU speck trucks.
Also it's important to note that trucks can get special licenses in the EU to go up to 100kmh or roughly 62 mph, while still being able to maintain the points OP mentioned
@@jms4989Still illegal in my home country (which is in the EU) max here is 90 km/h but most trucks are restricted to 80 km/h which is 55.92 and 49.71 miles per hour, so basically 56 and 50 mph. Or slower if the speed limit says so.
And let’s not forget the difficulty of actually getting a truck license.
I can’t speak of the entire EU but as far as I know, in my home country, a person needs to pass both a theory and a practical test as well as a urine test in addition to having a car license which also requires a theory and a practical test. Although not required by law, nearly everyone attends a drivers school (so no, a parent cannot teach his/her child how to drive by sitting next to them) and the average is about 40 lessons (for the basic driver’s license). For a truck additional lessons are generally needed.
Lmao! At the 5:50 mark, he accidentally said "European cabover designs with their engine positioned over the cab!" I wonder if he ever caught that mistake? Lol!
Where is the mistake ;)?
@@TruckTropia5:50
These data are provided by an engineer of paccar group: The European truck is used in 70% of the world market, the American truck in 16% approximately, that is to say for every 10 trucks there are 7 European trucks and 1.6 American trucks, knowing that the European truck is the truck that has less deaths per accident and not only that, it is the one that has less accidents per incident. The American truck leads the ranking of deaths per accident, as well as the ranking of accidents per incident, that is to say, having many more European trucks, many more drivers die in American trucks.
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IMO, its only due to speed limit difference between North America and Europe
@@marcelo403polo2 What did you not understand about the world market? Not to mention that they carry more weight in Europe in mountainous countries...
@@marcelo403polo2 we are hauling a lot more weight in europe. The weights here are between 40 til 90 metric tons for some Scandinavian countries. The bitter reality for you americans is that our trucks are way more advanced and saver. I think you may be happy for the fact that a lot of euro knowledge and savety now is also put in US rigs otherwise your new trucks still uses the alu cabs with rivits.
@@lanzonova relax dude. I’m Canadian not American. Our standard weight limit on two axels trailer is 40 tons. 3 axels haul more. I’m not truck driver so I don’t know exact numbers. There is also really heavy duty oversized loads as well, where I guess you need special permit. Just don’t compare your oversized weights to North American standard. In US I believe it’s only 80K lbs, so about 36 tons
Long nose trucks are easier to get access to the engine as it doesn't require lifting the entire cab.
Both long front and flat front trucks still make it easy to work on the engine.
lifting the entire cab isnt that big of problem... if the things inside are secured...
No matter how safe they make trucks, nothing will change how a person drives, of they drive like there in a fast and furious movie then they're gonna cause a accident
I love this EU vs American truck rivalry. Edit: I am an actual truck driver in the US so obviously I am biased. But still it's fun to watch.
We need underride guards on trailers to be mandatory for all trailers. Up here in NY we lost 3 EMS workers to going under a semi tanker trailer that had jackknifed on the interstate at nite.
in Europe lateral and rear colission test are mandatory on trailers and that's why there's mandatory rails guards on sides and low height bumpers at the rear , to avoid cars to pass under the trailer (this rails act like walls : they stop you, you can't go further under the truck)
since those test are mandatory, the amount of cars passing under trucks have decreased significantely (about 70% of safety enhancement)
If they weren't tailgating they wouldn't run under the back to start with
@@bmacguyverI think a lot of people don't know the concept of: safety distances (on the sides, it's not a matter of distances)
This crash test gives extra protection to riders and passengers
I wish we had Scania trucks here in the US.
I can't imagine a semi hauling a nuke crashing 😂
Nothing would happen, they have a lot of safety mechanisms
A good few examples would be the 32 atom bombs the USA lost in crashes, of which 6 are still lost in these following locations:
-North Carolina
-the Mediterranean Sea
-the Pacific Ocean x2
-the Atlantic Ocean x2
I'd like to see an full frontal crash test between the European cab over and the American long nose trucks...
Little goofup on the engine over cab line 😄 but it's too late to go back and fix it now Love your vids, keep it up.
Make video on which brand makes most reliable and durable trucks
120 ton trucks? Sorry what? Sorry but I have a feeling you are making a huge mistake there.
For anyone wondering. 120 tons is heavier then your avarage railway locomotive. For example, the Siemens Vectron (Most modern locomotive in Europe as of this date) weights between 80-90 tons. Depanding on the version.
Yet this video claims that a truck you see on the road weighs around 50% more then a Siemens vectron?
Sorry but I cannot take this information seriously and it makes me wonder how accurate the rest of the information is in this video.
Also, the maximum weight of a Truck in the US is 80.000 pounds. that is 36.2 tons. (This includes the cargo they carry)
A 120 ton truck would not only destroy the road, But also any bridge it drives over.
He was confused with the imperial tons or didn't specify which was what, this is why i prefer double measure written, so the Yanks... I mean... So the people who use metric systems and Imperial ones don't misunderstand
Its included the weight, in Europe Trucks som trucks are allowed with a gross weight over 220.000 pounds
EN FRANCE, LES TRACTEURS 6X4 OU 6X6 PEUVENT TRACTER JUSQU'À 120 TONNES !!!
CERTAINS TRACTEURS 8X4 OU 8X8, PEUVENT TRACTER JUSQU'À 600 TONNES !!!
MAIS JE PENSE QUE DANS LA VIDÉO, IL SE TROMPE !!!
JC ANONYMOUS PATRIOTE FRANCE.
DE GAULLE ET FIER DE L'ÊTRE
Where shall that be? The heaviest road legal vehicles (special transports aside) I know are in Finland, comparable to a US turnpike double with two full size trailers and these can go up to 76 metric tons gross weight. But I like to learn new stuff...
Australian road trains 2-5 trailers on public roads, mining companies use more on private roads, up to 200 tonnes.
Based on all the crashes between European and American trucks I have seen, I will take the American trucks any day.
They are much better built to handle the types of crashes you mostly find here in the U.S.
Head-on collisions with European trucks are much more dangerous as the driver's body absorbs all of the impact.
European trucks are better at helping the driver prevent a crash. But it's often not the truck driver that causes the crash here in the U.S.
This video alone shows how bad the EU trucks did to protect the driver from hard impacts.
This is why cabover trucks are not used in the U.S. since trucks here travel at much higher speeds compared to Europe.
EU trucks are best suited to slow-winding roads with pedestrians. That's what they are specifically designed for.
But in the U.S. there aren't that many pedestrians because distances are too far to walk and most trucks are moving at 70 to 80 Mph on the interstate.
So hence EU trucks are best in Europe and U.S. trucks are best for North America.
The traffic conditions, speeds, and distances are very different between the EU and North America. So hence the needed design differences.
lane keep assist and auto braking etc don't improve driver awareness! they give drivers a very much false sense of security, seen it plenty of times.....Hell you just gotta drive down the interstate until you hit construction to see how many morons ignore lane ending signs then get mad when you need to switch to the non closing lane or they run right to where the lane closes and expect traffic to stop to let them in. and that's how mile long backups start.
I wonder why couldn't North America US Canada in Mexico copy European crash test models some of the European trucks are sold in Mexico and then drive across the us-mexico border.
Whatt?? I think you mean the engine is UNDER the cab in the cabover trucks
These are "tractor trailers", not semi trucks. A "tractor" pulls a "semi trailer". I worked in the trucking industry for over 30 years, "never" heard a tractor called a "semi truck". Elon might call his a "semi truck", but no, they are tractor trailers, big rigs, 18 wheelers.
well comparing both trucks together as an American. European vehicles are just innately safer than the US vehicles main reason is our cars don't have any real competition to make them get better and safer in order to survive like the European market does which is a shame really
...and the USA thinks that other countries' safety standards are crap. Importing trucks to the USA is only permissible if the truck is older than 25 years or the manufacturer pays for US crash tests. But then again, the longer the nose of the truck the more valuable it is -- and European trucks don't have and will not have such noses. These noses render a truck impractical for most European places.
@@McGhinch I agree our regulations are so weird over here in the US not to mention our indicators being in the same housing has our brake lights meaning our indicators are RED rather than amber like they should be
I feel all trucks are safe it's not that a European truck is safer than an American truck or an Australian truck is not safe it depends on how the impact is it depends on the accident all accidents are different
Did he say 120 tons? That’s an error because that would be 240000 lbs, which can’t be right.
in the video we say that there are crash tests with over 120 tonnes, which is obviously not correct. :)
there are some countries where 120 tonnes is allowed in total selected gross weight,
but they do not crash test with that weight :)
They act like American trucks do not have the same driver assistance sensors as European trucks. Sensors like proximity warning that automatically applies the brakes if you're too close, lane departure, adaptive cruise control, and whatever else. Me personally, I don't want or like any of that stuff in my truck or my four-wheeler! Some of that stuff is dangerous, and makes your job harder. This is why I prefer older classic long hood trucks from before year 2000!
Ancap on america and ancap in Europe too?
The European Truck Maker makes a far superior truck than the American Truck Maker in every aspect of building them. The United States should allow the European Truck Maker to invade the States with the better built trucks than the USA Truck. I was told that it is the lack of emissions controls that United States want in the European Truck Maker to implement in their production of trucks. I do not care about this because of other countries that pollute the environment in the world. Bring them here and you see how much better the trucks from Europe are really better than are own. Peace to everyone.
120 tons? That’s a fat ass truck
130 tons weight? Lol, not really
If it was a triple road train.
EN FRANCE, LES TRACTEURS 6X4 OU 6X6 PEUVENT TRACTER JUSQU'À 120 TONNES !!!
CERTAINS TRACTEURS 8X4 OU 8X8, PEUVENT TRACTER JUSQU'À 600 TONNES !!!
MAIS JE PENSE QUE DANS LA VIDÉO, IL SE TROMPE !!!
JC ANONYMOUS PATRIOTE FRANCE.
DE GAULLE ET FIER DE L'ÊTRE.
74 kiloton = 163142 pounds or in speciall roads with permits 90 000 kg = 198416 pounds
in the video we say that there are crash tests with over 120 tonnes, which is obviously not correct. :)
there are some countries where 120 tonnes is allowed in total vehicle gross weight,
but they do not crash test with that weight :)
@@jarpa153 74 kilotons would be 74000 tons.
Kilo = 1000
This is just basic information without depth.
Videos of this nature tend to be rather vague, and I am unsure as to why they are so unclear. We are seeking to obtain valuable and meaningful information, not unfounded generalizations. This video, unfortunately, lacked substance and failed to provide any detailed explanations or insights. It was quite disappointing and did not address the Q&A inquiry as expected. Furthermore, the presentation was rather dull and unengaging, lacking any emotional depth or vitality. It was emotionally and energetically draining to watch.
European trucks are just better, stronger and safer. Period
Telling lots of bs!.. Nothing about the results
he said trucks are 120 tons. That's not possible.
in Finland 120 ton in total gross weight is allowed = 265.000 pounds@@yellowstonethepony7769
European trailers have side guards that are designed to prevent cars from going underneath the trailer chassis, the same with the rear under-run bar that is designed to prevent a car from going under the rear end of the trailer. You have been making these videos long enough now that I would have thought that you would have a little bit more knowledge of European trucks.
Another thing that you failed to mention, is that on European trucks the cab mounts are designed to sheer off in the event of a head-on collision, thus offering more protection to the driver, that is why Volvo and Scania test the strength of their cabs for the purpose.