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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 เม.ย. 2020
- Re-Live one of the strangest Dang-Its of all time when the New Jersey Devils suffered two heartbreaking last second losses in the Stanley Cup Playoffs against the Carolina Hurricanes.
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Dang it.
Home sweet home.
I love the Devils
That was heartbreaking 💔!!! Go Devil's 😈
Go canes cam ward is better
Jamie Eliahu SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT YOU THINK THAT CAM WARD (DON’T GET ME WRONG I LIKE CAM WARD AND I THINK THAT HE WAS A GREAT GOALIE) IS BETTER THAN MARTIN BRODEUR
the only correct answer to "would that goal count in today's nhl" is "who the hell knows"
Lmao right. Like depends on the team lol. Honestly I see so many goalie interference things that are so similar but it counts as a goal for one team and doesn’t for the other
That's exactly what I said before reading the comments. Most of the time it seems to be a coin flip on a goal review.
@@21Shift12 Exactly dude!
You read my mind lol
Sounds about right. I’d say no just because that’s one review where the NHL generally tends to side with the goalie even though the rules actually say incidental contact is allowed outside of the crease and trapezoid, even in the case of a goal. However, it’s rare that there’s any consistency with how the refs interpret the rules. In this case I could see the refs saying well the back of his foot was still in the crease so I’m going to count that as in the crease...
Today: goal counts on Monday, Wednesday and Friday, does not count on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday. Sunday is a coin toss.
Christopher Merlot LOVE IT
But sometimes the coin isn't calibrated so in the end, they ask David Ayres to flip it.
Sometimes Toronto has to call in and give them the results of their coin toss.. Well it's not exactly a coin. They just painted a big middle finger one side of the rule book and they flip that.
Any other team: *gets featured in Steve's Dang Its*
NJ: This town ain't big enough for the two of us
The answer is “depends on how Toronto is feeling”
spicy take
“Which team committed more penalties against the Leafs this year?
Toronto might have been salty that they didnt make it to the playoffs. Toronto let the saltiness go by putting nhl on quarantine . Congrats, it really didnt matter BECAUSE DEVILS SUCKED THIS YEAR
I’m subbed to you.
I would let goal stand. Marty went out of his way to make contact with Jokinen whereas Jokinen cannot reasonably predict that Brodeur would come out that far out of his blue paint. If Jokinen had made a line directly into or at the blue, it could be more easily argued as Goalie interference.
As it is, Brodeur was not screened and he overskated his position which caused the contact. If anything the contact initiated by Brodeur saved some of the positioning he had in the first place giving him a fighting chance in making a save.
Good goal *arm to center ice*
absolutely agree
Agreed. Brodeur was way out from his paint. In his paint they can't touch him. But outside it, he can expect to get bumped, especially when Jokinen has as much right to that space. Brodeur didn't have his position set and was as much as fault for the bump.
@@carpetclimber4027 And to make matters worse for Marty he was reset by the time the point shot came. If the shot had come right as Marty is bumped then the goal is disallowed; no minor on the play as the contact was by accident but the question that needs to be answered was did Marty have time to get up and reset himself to make the stop and we can see that he did so the call on the ice was correct
Speaking as a Devils fan, I really think that goal would still count today, but only after about 15 solid minutes of review
At least 15 minutes of slow motion, rewinds, 17 angles and from the water bottle cam
Steve's right about the rule about the goalie interference. Interference in the crease isn't allowed, however any presence outside the crease with interference is allowed. A good example would of been Ryan Kesler goal vs Oilers in the 2017 Western Conference Semi-Finals game 5 to tie the game showed Talbot interfered outside of the crease which resulted in the Ducks tie game and Perry's OT winner and eventually beat the Oilers in 7 games.
I can't wait for Steve to cover the time Marc Bergevin threw the punk into his own net.
His GM career in Montréal would be a bigger dang-it to cover.
As a Blues fan I'm fine waiting.
I know what you mean.... But I would pay to see Bergevin throw Avery into a net, don't even care if it's his own net.
The Canes had a history of making Brodeur's life a living hell at the end of playoff games Beyond just this series. 3 years prior to this, Game 2 in 2006: Devils are up 2-1. With 3 seconds left, Eric Staal ties it up. Canes win in OT.
I definitely remember this “Dang-It!” I was at that game, and your countdown to overtime is pretty much how we all reacted in my little section of the 300 level. We also *may* have heckled and laughed a little bit when Marty threw his stick. I love Marty, but how could I not laugh at that meltdown? 😂 I also remember watching Game 7 in my house, and using my “RBC Center” voice when Staal scored. Scared the crap out of my pets and my humans!
1:58 “When this grit-grinder”
Bardown when this grit grinder we’re never going to get though this
yes i love that moment and corwin was right they never got through that
"Dang it classic" is how I call my entire adolescence
Yes, after last year's San Jose Vegas game 7 I'd believe anything is possible.
10:24 guess who else is in that picture?
you guessed it, eric f-ing staal.
Show the turnover by Ty Conklin and Smith at the end of Game 1 of the 2006 SCF that led to RBA scoring the game winner with 20 seconds left
Even better: have an entire video dedicated to goalie misplays in the SCF, leading off with that one
Or, counterpoint, how about we don't?
Loving these throwback dang its! Not having hockey sucks, but freeing up time for you guys to make these is a bit of a silver lining for sure!
Jokinen is now playing for my hometown in Finland. Hes playing pretty good here in Oulu
I thought the one good thing about the play stoppage would be Dangle leaving my Devils alone for a little while. Nope. #cryingintomywhiskey
You could actually do a list of dang-it's from Devils and Canes. Great video. That series was nuts.
I love it when you do the dang it’s videos
Would the goal count nowadays? Nah, there was an offside on the play.
No offside? I'm sure if one reviews it carefully, one can find an offside. There is always an offside.
That was amazing goal by my Hurricanes. I was in the stands for that game and remember it vividly. Man was it loud too!
Love these classic videos!!! Thanks Steve!!!
4:57 nice little calvin and hobbes reference there Steven
Brodeur was 4.3957 miles above the blue paint when he got bumped by a dude who has every right to use that same chunk of ice. Of course it's going to count! Him crying about it reminded me of a soccer player diving and rolling around on the damn field for 10.7926 minutes.
Being a Devils fan I will NEVER forget that series and especially that last game. WHAT THERE'S NO OVERTIME?!?! SHOCKED! DOH! I could not believe it. Martin was VERY unlucky in that new goalie mask. Funny that he eventually went back to the old design...
One of the best series I've seen. Of course, I say that as a Caniac.
Must say, havnt watch alot of your content but i started watching with the Zamboni driver.... and you my good man have got me hooked, keep up the good work.
As a Devil's fan, more Devil's Dang-its please. I need to stay grounded in this joyless time
Really felt like this Canes team was a team of destiny. The way we beat the Devils in miraculous fashion then beat the Bruins in Game 7 OT made me think we weren't gonna lose no matter what. Then the juggernaut Penguins swept us the next round lol
Let’s go Canes. This is one of my favorite games of all time. Also I think it would’ve counted for what you said plus one extra thing. I feel like enough time passed for Brodeur to recover under the current rules
This brought back painful memories as a Devil's fan, especially cause this was the first time I actually got to go see a Devil's game 7 in person
Game 4 goal should have counted then and now. Marty initiated contact outside of the blue and in the end...still gave up a 3-2 series lead and a lead in game 7. That was terrible.
That last goal shows goalie mind set is everything. If a goalie is rattled, it shows when he plays.
Good news, Steve! At the 4:05 mark, you mention the semantics behind one last puck drop with 0.2 on the clock...the refs were thinking the same as you! There was no faceoff afterward and ended the game after the review
I was at game 7. It was brutal. It took like 45 minutes to get out of Newark.
I was at that Game 7. It was my first season as a season ticket holder. I counted every single minute while we had the lead in the 3rd; "OK, Only 6 minutes to go"... only able to breathe when the puck wasn't in our end. After that GWG, it was the quietest I have ever heard The Rock. We all walked out of the arena in silence; absolute & pure disbelief. It seemed like not a single Devils fan was speaking. Only a few Carolina fans who weren't even cheering cause they were as shocked as us Devils fans. I got back to my car, threw my Devils sweater in the trunk; and went home and had a pretty full glass of Johnnie Walker. I can promise, I will never ever forget that game.
I was at that game and you forgot one monster detail, Colin White was showboating and put a canes player in the bench with a big hit, but also taking himself out of the play leading to that chance by Staal.
I was at game 4. That was the loudest I have ever heard that arena, and I was at game 5 of the cup run in 06. Hearing the crowd chant “Goal! Goal! Goal!” was magical. Sorry, brother, don’t be hurt that the Zamboni driver happened to put on a canes jersey that night. Miracle game for our franchise against a historically rich hockey resume for a team in Toronto.
I would say yes it would count. The contact is incidental as Brodeur was able to get back to his crease and set up for the shot. But it's the NHL and its like playing darts blindfolded after being spun around not even knowing which way the board is..
As a rangers fan, this is my favorite video you have ever posted.
Nice Calvin and Hobbes reference with Hamster Huey and the gooey kablooey
Rockin’ that quarantine chin...
I remember throwing a chair, breaking stuff, and yelling swear words for either the Jokinen incidental contact goal or Staal goal. Probably both sadly. And who knows if that goal would count (NHL lol). All I know is I wish it didn't.
Sadly, any other team and it would have been goalie interference, then or now.
I have that very same picture frame in my living room. What a memorable gold run.
I don't think the contact from Brodeur prevented the goalie from making a save, still plenty of time to react, plus the goalie was out of the crease when accidental contact was made. If Brodeur had made the contact just as the puck was coming in, it would have been a tougher call - but unless we're splitting hairs, I call it a good goal.
Man, a Calvin & Hobbes reference in 2020, nicely done.
Got me to look back at 2009 playoffs in general. This dang it is what gave us Crosby Ovechkin for the first time!
You should make a mini series with the biggest dang it's from every team.
Well, the league is a lot clearer on these things today, so it's still a crap shoot as to whether it's a goal or not. Hockey must be the greatest game, not even the NHL can kill it.
10:40 Steve summing up the entire decade so far.
I agree with you Steve, I think it should count. I don’t think they’d allow it on review today, they’d call it incidental contact- BUT- the rules specifically state the goaltenders privileged area is only in the crease (and was expanded to include the trapezoid behind the net”. Just because coming out of the crease helps the goalie get an advantage on his angle, doesn’t mean he should gain privilege against incidental contact. If the goalie is in the white paint, any unintentional contact should be allowed, even if they score. If a player is intentionally bumping the goalie or pushes him with his stick or something then sure, definitely either no goal for incidental contact or call interference just like you would if it was a forward knocking a defenseman down (at least if you call by the rules, which is rare).
I’m all for protecting goalies, but that’s why they have their privileged space. They should also crack down against contact against the goalie when it is in the paint or behind the net though in my opinion. I’m okay with allowing a goal with a player in the crease if he doesn’t impact the play. However, you see it far too often where a goalie can’t make the play he wants to make, gets a pad pushed out by a stick, or gets blocked from sliding across the net because a guy is in the crease and it’s still called a goal. It’s real simple to me- crack down on calling penalties for contact instigated inside the crease, allow incidental contact outside the crease, call a penalty for intentional contact in either area. To go with it because this happens a lot, I also think they should give the goalie an interference penalty more often when he steps out of his crease to get in the way of a forechecker.
You should do Patrick Roy where he demands a trade from Montreal. I know you already did Patrick Roy but it is a huge moment in habs history
You should do Edmonton's blown lead in game five during the 2017 playoffs, and specifically the ALLOWED GOALIE INTERFERENCE on the tying goal!!!
best Brodeur dang-it: the Anaheim dump in that made Gary Thorne, Bill Clement, and John Davidson simultaneously let out " Oooooooooooohhhhhhh!"
was at that game 4, was crazy.
Its great to hear you tell me the goals instead of showing me them.
Dang-it idea: Bruins Go Into the Stands at MSG, 1979
I was at this game explaining to an Australian beside me how OT works in hockey
loved the way you ended the video lmao
I love these dang it's
10:11 they were not .2 seconds away from taking a 3-1 series lead. they were .2 seconds away from a chance in overtime. Dang It Steve
This wasn't the only time the Canes tormented the Devils and Brodeur. 2006, ECSF when the Canes tied Game 2 with 3 seconds to go and let up a short-handed goal to Nic "The Secret Weapon" Wallin in OT.
Any Devils that was not an adult in 1994 will tell you that this was the worst moment they have experienced as a Devils fan and I agree. I was in the building for that one.
This David Clarkson that Steve keeps mentioning sounds impressive; the Leafs should sign him to a nice big contract.
By the way, these two incidents are known as The Miracle Finnish and The Shock at the Rock because Jokinen is from Finland and the Devils arena was (is?) called the Prudential Center and their logo is a big rock/mountain thing.
If a goalie comes so far out of the crease that he's on the FAR side of the face off circle where he then hits you in the knees TODAY, people still think you interfered with the goalie.
I think the goal would still count because it was accidental contact. I don't know though reply if you think differently. Great breakdown Steve 👍
You should do the Bruins vs kings goal with 0.9 seconds left, not a misplay but for sure made me say “dang-it” and also a hat pick
I think it would count. The contact was unintentional and outside of the crease. Considering that it's a game-winning goal in the playoffs, and was called on the ice as a goal, it's unlikely the ref would be willing to waive it.. unless it was for the Leafs, in which case, an exception can be made.
to answer the question, in today's NHL the goal WOULD count because the rule was amended to state that for goaltender interference, the goalie has to be in the crease. However, if we were to take that question and ask if that rule was not changed would it count, then the answer is emphatically no, it would NOT count. If you want a good example of that, look at the pred's disallowed goal against the panthers in April of 2018. it's a very similar situation, and the contact is much lighter than it is here.
1. Did the ref get to have his pre-game coffee?
2. How's the ref's relationship with the Mrs.?
3. What day of the week is it?
I think it would, he still had time to react and would be able to make that save
Game 4 goal would have counted in today's NHL.
Contact between player and goalie was outside of the crease - check.
Goalie had time to fully reset before the shot was taken - check.
Goal was scored because of a deflection of the shot - check.
Good goal.
I feel the 04 finals "it was in" debacle would be fun to look into
Steve, I think that goal from Game 4 counts in today's NHL. If the contact happened in the crease, the goal should not have counted. However, since Martin Brodeur was pretty far outside the crease and it looks like he initiated contact by getting in Jussi Jokinen's way, that goal would count.
Marty damn near ran into Jusi or whatever his name is I agree he's super underrated and a shootout legend. I watched him in Dallas.
...is that a lightning-fast Calvin & Hobbes reference around 4:58?
Absolutely it’d still count! He left the crease, got in Jokinen’s path and I would argue the contact didn’t prevent a save from being made
That would absolutely count today. Marty should admit he didn't play that moment very cleverly, when it seems he actually wanted to have the contact with Jokinen. End of story.
I am a Canes fan, but I still think the goal holds up today. As far as I know, incidental contact with the goalie is allowed as long as it occurs outside the goal crease, which this clearly did.
You're telling me you don't live in the SPORTSNET archives?
No matter what the year is, the Devils will always be in a Dang-its video
Yep
That’s hockey baby! Eric Staal puts them up by one with less than a minute to go. From the same spot as Ruuttu scored the first goal of the game
Not sure if it counts today, but it should. Bother Brodeur and Jokinen were moving when they collided. Why should it be on Jokinen to avoid the contact when it happens outside of the paint? Also, Brodeur collected himself in time for the next shot.
Incidental contact outside the crease. Good goal.
It's impossible to say if that goal would've counted with inconsistent that kind of call is
Even as a goalie myself though I can say it definitely should count, I'd still be pissed, but it should absolutely count it's coincidental contact well outside the crease like that
Can we take a look at the zone entry just to make sure it would count today?
Jordan Staal cosplay of Eric staal in 2019 game 7 against caps
Please do the Flyers Bruins 2010 series where the Flyers came back from 3 games to none in the series to force a game 7, than came back from 0-3 in game 7 itself to win the series! Only the 4th team in sports history to win a 7 game series after losing the first 3
Do the oilers blowing a three goal lead against Anaheim in the second round 2017
In 2020, the goal would stand FOR Pittsburgh, Vegas, Los Angeles, and all Original Six teams except Toronto (and maybe Detroit). The goal would also stand AGAINST New Jersey, Toronto, and San Jose.
Miracle on Manchester sould be next dang it for the oilers
as a devils fan this deeply hurts :(
There is no chance in hell that goal would count today.
You should do Rinne’s 5 goal game in game 7 against the sharks
I was thinking this would be the one where broduer throws his stick by accident and the puck bounces off of it, between his legs and into the net.
Can you do a dang it on the missed offsides in game 6 of the 1980 cup finals between philly and new york
My take on it is - he got bumped before the shot that went in was taken. He got over to the shot angle after being bumped. I think it would count today.