When I finished this film my mouth actually dropped, this movie is such a mastermind that I say Se7en has to be the first film to ever make my mind explode.
Could freeman be in on it? I mean like dante's inferno. He guided him through to the end. Like vergil. Who put it together from the beginning? Who found what was needed when no one else did?
I have re watched the exorcist so many times because of documenries on youtube ...so many hidden storylines and views behind it. ..great eras for cult movies compared to nowasays...do you recommend any hidden gems filmwise ?
The fact that there is no solid year or location pinned to this movie makes it wonderfully timeless Hell, you could even call the city Gotham, before Batman showed up, if you wanted to
I saw Se7en when I was young and it became one of my all time favorite films. Until this video I didn’t even draw the comparisons between Dante/Mills and Virgil/Sommerset. Mind blown. Fantastic analysis
This was the line that stuck in my head most from the movie. The fact that he was walking through a police precinct with bloody hands calling to them calmly at first and he had to scream just to be noticed was so unexpected that it was like a stab in the brain.
@@TheGldnSldr That's what he's talking about in the vid, the apathy of the police and everyone else in the city. Not caring will be the death of us all.
@@fuckusingfullname You've never noticed the the arm by the side of his body on the same side as the arm with no hand? Watch the scene and get back to me.
@@PhantomFilmAustralia so apparently the swat team actors werent told the sloth was alive during filming, so they had authentic reactions. That explains why they couldnt or didnt reshoot.
The part that disturbed me the most was the guy who was kept alive and had his hand chopped off.. and kept alive for a whole year turning him into a skeleton..
"there is no love"? Yes there is. You can see love in how Mills wakes up quietly trying not to disturb her. How he behaves is a sign of how he cares. Then we see Tracy wiping David's eyes when he dresses up. That's love beyond infatuation.
@@jackdaniels2657 that's what I thought, he envies the fact that Mills has someone that loves him, that gives him a nuance of "mundane life" whereas Doe has no one to do that for him
Agree ... Without love the ending loses its impact. Mills deeply loves his wife, he just works too much, and assumes Tracy is coping with all their little day to day problems, when she isn't.
The love and tenderness between Mills and his wife is one of the most touching parts of the movie, and stands in stark contrast to the crimes of the serial killer. There is also a suggestion that Somerset still has some affection for his former lover, whom he mentions in the conversation with Tracy. It’s completely wrong to say there is no love in the movie.
“On the subway today, a man came up to me to start a conversation. He made small talk, a lonely man talking about the weather and other things. I tried to be pleasant and accommodating, but my head hurt from his banality. I almost didn't notice it had happened, but I suddenly threw up all over him. He was not pleased, and I couldn't stop laughing.” -JD
A bunch of us English students studying in Nice, France in 1995, went to watch Se7en @ the cinema one evening, not knowing what we were about to watch. We barely spoke a word on the walk back to our halls. I’ll never forget that walk home. Brilliant film that I’ve probably seen a hundred times, but haven’t watched for a few years now. That’s something we will have to remedy, as Uncle Argyle said in Braveheart😊
One of my favouite characters is the city itself, the sound design is so amazing that in nearly every scene you always hear background noise from the city. it really grounds you into the world and how oppressive it all is.
I was shaking the first time I watched Se7en, filled with suspense, tension and mystery. One of my all time favorite movies, my favorite David Fincher film,”
Late reply, but I think he saw himself as god or a worker of god to kill other people committing the sins. So in his head him killing those people committing the sins wasn’t a sin, he was just doing gods work. Then at the end he realized he was fucked up and envied a normal life like Brad Pitts. Therefore he committed a sin which is envy, and he had to be killed for it. He got killed by Brad which made Brad a wrath. Finishing all the sins. I might be wrong just my speculation.
the most terrifying thing about this film isn't that the main characters hate the psychopath but they get checkmated into a situation where they cannot disagree with him.
Se7en just had a great impression upon me when I first watched it. It’s thrilling, it’s creepy, it’s even funny at times with occasional jokes. But I love the characters and love being with them, the dialogue is well written, too, and I find so much to unpack when it comes to the themes of this film! Se7en is a masterpiece and one of the greatest films ever made! Gets better with each viewing and it’s a masterpiece! A top five favorite movie for me!
There’s a fan theory that Se7en takes place in Gotham before Batman. Obviously just a fun theory but it would make sense. John Doe is a total Batman villain and the city is decrepit. No sun. Rains all the time. That’s so Gotham. It’s like we’re following 2 GCPD detectives. Awesome theory.
Also I feel like Nolan took inspiration from this film for the Joker in The Dark Knight considering he plays with Batman's mind and how John Doe plays with Mills mind.
6:32 "with Joe now in custody". I just wanted to point out he combined John and Doe into "Joe".... because it's the only flaw I can find in his otherwise flawless analysis. Well done, sir. Another enjoyable and insightful video. Keep them coming!! 😎👌
This is a classic. Hands down one of the best. But the end, just really put me in a weird funk. Had to think how would I have reacted being in his shoes. It would break my heart
this is one of my favorite movies. the characters, the ambiance, the grundgy look just perfect. also that one dude they found still alive was legit scary/ creepy.
When I was too young to watch this movie... I was greeted with a dark and ominous feel becuase of its cover picture... We were taught in elementary school about heaven and hell and the consequences if we commit crimes in this world... And by the time I finished the movie... I felt a psychological chill in my soul... Wicked life we live in these days... It stays true even in the test of time...
When I first saw this in ‘98, I was utterly shocked. I had to watch a few more times to catch all the details. For me, the most shocking was lust. I only caught the device in the 2nd viewing.
the movie is very elaborate,dont follow for 2 mins,and you can lose a very big chunk,and the story will lose half of its meaning... Also,another thing i have noticed,especially with flicks like this one,best to watch alone! (watch it with your gf,you'll kiss 3 times in first half,and you will say movie is boring. Same if watching with your friends,make some jokes,hahaha,and half things become stupid)! Movie is great tho...
The performance of the actor playing the man forced into the act (into an impossible choice!) was gut-wrenching. It conveyed the horror of what had been done to her and what he had now to live with far better than any graphic depiction. The shock of that sequence stayed with me after the film first came out - it was years before I could watch in a (slightly) more detached frame of mind, again.
Plot twist: The Seven Deadly Sins (originally called "The Seven Deadly Vices") aren't in the Bible. There are 10 Commandments, not 17. Edit/Note: The vice of gluttony is actually more serious than mere overindulgence. In its original context, it meant a willingness to engage in personal overindulgence (in any particular thing, not just food or drink) while at the same time being callous toward the needy. In a similar sense, sloth meant more than mere laziness. It meant apathy.
The Bible does not specifically describe a set of “seven deadly sins.” However, it does teach that practicing serious sins will prevent a person from gaining salvation. For example, the Bible refers to such serious sins as sexual immorality, idolatry, spiritism, fits of anger, and drunkenness as “the works of the flesh.” It then states: “Those who practice such things will not inherit God’s Kingdom.”
I honestly hated the "what's in the box" quote because everyone one of my friends said it over and over again and half of them never saw the movie because their parents wouldn't let them.
i'm 14 i want to watch this but my parents won't let me. my friends said its not violent. how can I watch this? I know my mom's credit card number so I can give you to buy something if you help me.
@@swallowedinthesea11 Do not steal your moms credit card, don’t look up reviews either it’ll ruin it for you. Just wait until your allowed to watch it. Maybe watch it with your parents
I always had a different theory. Mills wife was killed because of envy. She wanted more: didnt like her apartment, didnt want to live in the city. She envied others who had it better than her. Then John Doe was killed because of his anger (wrath) towards the other sinners. Just an idea
John Doe already said that "envy is my sin". The point is, he envies all the people he killed or those people who had a sense of normalcy because it's something that he doesn't have. He hates people but at the same time he envies them for being free because he is not. Envy is a sin that people don't talk about, all the other sins are tolerated, but envy has always been frowned upon because it's the root of all evil. As I said he envies people who are free and so he pushed Mills to the point of rage so someone can kill him. Because at the very last minute he is a hypocrite, and that goes hand in hand with envy.
Not liking your apartment, or the city you live in, are not, in themselves, envy. You can desire to improve your life without envying others. I am obese and on a diet; I want to be slimmer because my weight impacts on my health, not because I envy others for being thinner than me.
Maybe it is something deeper here and i must admit that i got into this comment section looking for different analysis. Who is the victim of wrath? Killing individuals for their sins or offering a sacrifice for them is biblical and rooted in the old testament, blood is payment for sins. For jewish converted to Christianity or christians there is forgiveness for sins and the blood of the Lamb (Christ) pays for those crimes, no need to kill the sinner. BASED on principle of marriage, since the very beginning, man and wife are one indivisible, then Moses allows writ of divorce BUT then Christ recovers the marriage as a union that two are united in one indivisible flesh. When i put this in the picture. At the last scene, the murderer confesses envy as his sin BUT says "i believe or guess, something in between the lines" i think he is the victim killed for envy and then my last mistery victim. At this point we do not have it unless the christian or pre-Moses principle of marriage is applied. The wife and Mills are one flesh indivisible by killing her he killed Mills and right before the murderer gets killed he said there comes "wrath" referring to Mills. I think this is enough to say that detective Mills got killed by his "Wrath" and you can throw the baby in the picture to add more of Mills being killed but i do not think is necessary.
1995 was one hell of a year. Se7en, Usual Suspects, Fight Club, Heat, Casino, Braveheart, 12 Monkeys, Bad Boys, Goldeneye, Billy Madison, Friday, Apollo 13, and Tommy Boy.
I do not disagree, but 'Fight Club' (also by David Fincher) came out in 1999. I saw it back then in a German cinema and I have kept the movie ticket from this evening, because I knew that I had just watched an all time classic movie - one of the best in the 20th century. Where is my mind...
I saw this in the movie theater when it came out. The audience was so quiet and we were all submerged in the story. That when walks into the police station it’s insane. All in shock about the box. So good
Love this film so much. I hate that “What’s in the box?!” Is a meme at this point. I’ve had people laugh during that whole scene because they know the line. Ruins the moment.
I just watched a much longer video talking about the movie and the way you describe it resonates with me a lot more because of your choice of words and how you describe your interpretation. It also helps that your voice is so nice to listen to
This is a fantastic movie, especially the cinematography. In the movie Mills and Somerset are filmed in such a way that in the beginning they are never really in framed together and as the movie progesses they move closer and closer, eventualley overlapping in some frames But, this level af detail is not surprising, David fincher is a well known perfectionist. Btw: Mr. FilmComicsExplained are you going to make a video on the movie "The Wolf of Snow Hollow (2020)", if you have not watched it yet, i think you should.
Saw this in the cinema, had no idea what to expect walking in. Totally blown away, especially by the ending. Couldn't even describe how I felt to my car load of mates as we drove home from the cinema.
I remember a friend loaning me the SE7EN comics around 2009ish (in exchange I loaned him my copies of Wild Dog, a DC vigilante set in our hometown). That compelled me to watch the film SE7EN, which lead to a deep love of psych horror/thrillers.
I really like this coverage of this movie. You explain it perfectly. Even after watching the dozen times, I was still confused on some of the stuff until now, thanks. Can't wait for the next one.
I adore all of your content. You do a fantastic job of dissecting some of the most fascinating fictitious worlds I have grown to love over the years. Thank you for your insightful and well thought out videos :)
Niyat, as you've grown as a content creator I find that you've become even more compeling and interesting to listen to. I am shamed to say that I was not seeing your videos in my feed as the algorithm can be regardless I love your work and keep on it amigo, thank you.
This video was awesome, well done. Se7en was a very interesting film to watch when I first saw it. Please do a video of EA’s Dante’s Inferno. Really enjoyed watching the animated film and video game.🙌🏼🔥 Have a good one, Nyiat.
I remember seeing this in theaters when it came out, during the climax scene it was dead silent. No gasps, no screams, nothing. Everyone left the theater in silence, we were all shock at the ending. We all talked about for months later. Brilliant and intelligent film.
Love the theory I've only heard of recently about this story taking place in a pre-batman gotham! Of course, it wasn't intended to be, but the pieces line up and ill bet the new Batman will feel connected(at least in my head-cannon😉)
The fact that a movie about a serial killer ends this way is unprecedented. Only David Fincher could have the killer show himself clear 40 minutes before the ending and make him look like his murders were somewhat justified for a scene.
I went to see seven with my mum the first day it came out in the cinema and we both left the auditorium agreeing that it was a milestone in cinema noir.
This was another one of those movies that the most important time you watched it was the first time. The lack of knowing who John Doe was throughout the film, that it could have been anyone, was so thrilling. The movie was absolutely terrifying, in part, because we realized that this could be somewhere not too far from wherever you lived .
I like this movie but what I don’t like about this movie is the Lust Victim poor girl, she died by being rapid with a custom-made, bladed strap-on, representing lust, I can’t imagine the blood and torture the horror
i feel legitimately sick if i think about it too much. it's so gruesome for such a dumb motive (not calling the movie or plot dumb, just the killer's "logic" over his lust & gluttony victims). john doe rlly thought sex workers and fat ppl were comparable with pedophiles??
Ik it's a movie but. People sure do love throwing hate upon sex workers then 5 seconds later go on some pornsite to jerk off. Then go back to hating them more
"Wanting someone to listen to you, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore, you have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll find you have their strict attention"- JD , if I was in mills position I would have done the same , but can't help but think that no matter what I would have done I've already lost. One thing does bother me with the killing of mills wife? What happened to the dogs? I guess he probably took care of them quickly, also there is an alternate ending that suggests that somerset kills John instead of mills, food for thought.
It truly is an excellent film, by it's mood, there's a real sense of dread throughout. Even though the films about the 7 deadly sins. There is no sign of the Divine being present, it's as if the Divine has abandoned humanity to damnation and were witnessing the remnants of redemption. That character being Morgan Freemans older Detective.
When i first saw this movie it was on TV and i was captivated. I went and rented it a day or two later. Needless to say, seeing it unedited was a bit of a shock. The Lust scene was horrifying without seeing any details. Just the man sitting in shock telling what happened. It's still a scene that shocks me just thinking of it. I think the last time I watched it, i fast forwarded through it
All great stories have great character arcs - and character arcs are always about identity - discovering it or redefining it. Every good story is about answering the question: "who am I?" This is a perfect example of story arc AS character arc. Each pivotal event brings him closer to reconsidering his retirement; the events of the story are there to lead him to recommit to his life as a cop.
When I finished this film my mouth actually dropped, this movie is such a mastermind that I say Se7en has to be the first film to ever make my mind explode.
I had the excact same thing in mind lol. It truly is amusing especially when I understood everything this guy was saying czu I'm usually a dumbarse
I recommend you watch "Predestination" and I can assure you'll enjoy your mind exploding once again.
Could freeman be in on it? I mean like dante's inferno. He guided him through to the end. Like vergil. Who put it together from the beginning? Who found what was needed when no one else did?
I have re watched the exorcist so many times because of documenries on youtube ...so many hidden storylines and views behind it. ..great eras for cult movies compared to nowasays...do you recommend any hidden gems filmwise ?
@@jinnoparangue9486 oh that one will screw people up and I approve this recommendation. Also nice to just find someone who has seen it!
The fact that there is no solid year or location pinned to this movie makes it wonderfully timeless
Hell, you could even call the city Gotham, before Batman showed up, if you wanted to
I like the idea that this is purgator, no happy ending no repentance just a continuous cycle of pain.
@@connordickerson6815 earth? Oh you mean in the movie hard to tell the difference anymore.
@@user-qc6cf2ez2k if you have eyes to see
You can also call it after since batman does absolutely nothing to stop crime
I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually Gotham.
I saw Se7en when I was young and it became one of my all time favorite films. Until this video I didn’t even draw the comparisons between Dante/Mills and Virgil/Sommerset. Mind blown. Fantastic analysis
I saw this in the theaters when I was a kid.. I agree
@@jonsnipe5484 Surprised they let you in to watch it. My uncle couldn't go see a James Bond movie when he was 17, but Se7en was completely fine!
@@ezy002 snuck in theater in downtown brooklyn...
Did we all see this while we were kids lol
R u guys oki I never watched this
Never mind "what's in the box" the paralysed skeleton that wakes up is bloody nightmare fuel! 😬
Spot the Brit
Once you see the skeleton guy has three arms, cannot be unseen.
@@SlimThief 😉 guilty
Saw it in theatre’s with my mom ( I was probably a bit to young ) I nearly peed my pants
That scene in particular has been stuck in my mind ever since I saw it on TV although I didn't think of what movie it was from.
Something about Spacey yelling DETECTIIIIIVE is always so terrifying to me
This was the line that stuck in my head most from the movie. The fact that he was walking through a police precinct with bloody hands calling to them calmly at first and he had to scream just to be noticed was so unexpected that it was like a stab in the brain.
Specially with the allegations against him lol
@@TheGldnSldr That's what he's talking about in the vid, the apathy of the police and everyone else in the city. Not caring will be the death of us all.
I haven't seen Seven in years but I can hear that word with clarity....... chilling.
I like how he says it quietly twice and no one hears him, and then DETECTIIIIIVE!!!
Se7en's one of those films that no matter how many times you watch it there's always something that you never noticed before to pick up on.
Like the Sloth victim having three arms.
@@PhantomFilmAustralia WHAT
@@fuckusingfullname You've never noticed the the arm by the side of his body on the same side as the arm with no hand?
Watch the scene and get back to me.
@@PhantomFilmAustralia HOLY HELL LMFAO
Good eye! I can see how they might have missed that detail.
@@PhantomFilmAustralia so apparently the swat team actors werent told the sloth was alive during filming, so they had authentic reactions. That explains why they couldnt or didnt reshoot.
The part that disturbed me the most was the guy who was kept alive and had his hand chopped off.. and kept alive for a whole year turning him into a skeleton..
"A drug dealing pederast actually!"
And that his hand is on display in a jar in John Doe's apartment!!!!
"there is no love"? Yes there is. You can see love in how Mills wakes up quietly trying not to disturb her. How he behaves is a sign of how he cares. Then we see Tracy wiping David's eyes when he dresses up. That's love beyond infatuation.
But why did she get killed? Was it that the serial killer envied the cop? Is that why he killed her cus he had nobody that cared for him?
@@jackdaniels2657 that's what I thought, he envies the fact that Mills has someone that loves him, that gives him a nuance of "mundane life" whereas Doe has no one to do that for him
@@jackdaniels2657 The killer (John Doe) said “I envy you, that’s my sin.”
@@pranav2169 and the sin of Detective Mills is Wrath
Agree ... Without love the ending loses its impact. Mills deeply loves his wife, he just works too much, and assumes Tracy is coping with all their little day to day problems, when she isn't.
What's in the box!?! What's in the box!?! Most shocking scene in the movie.
What was in the box?
@@grim-upnorth Joe
@@Kirealta which one is Joe?
@@grim-upnorth Joe Mama
@@Kirealta Ah, so Joe Mama was in the box? What about Hugh Mungus?
It's a shame we don't get movies like this any more.
David Fincher at his best. Dark, unsettling and uncompromising. Thank you for another great video. Remember watching it on VHS.
Ernest Hemingway once wrote, " the world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.
“ the city will tolerate any sin as long as it doesn’t involve them” sounds like NYC.
Like LA in cali
The love and tenderness between Mills and his wife is one of the most touching parts of the movie, and stands in stark contrast to the crimes of the serial killer. There is also a suggestion that Somerset still has some affection for his former lover, whom he mentions in the conversation with Tracy. It’s completely wrong to say there is no love in the movie.
I was thinking the exact same thing. Doesn't she utter:" I love you", before he leaves her that morning, never to be seen alive again?
One of my favorite movies of all time- fantastically unsettling for sure. Thanks for covering this one!!
Anytime, Ava!
“On the subway today, a man came up to me to start a conversation. He made small talk, a lonely man talking about the weather and other things. I tried to be pleasant and accommodating, but my head hurt from his banality. I almost didn't notice it had happened, but I suddenly threw up all over him. He was not pleased, and I couldn't stop laughing.” -JD
I saw this with my brother and sister, it scared the hell out of me, but it was pretty impressive.
A bunch of us English students studying in Nice, France in 1995, went to watch Se7en @ the cinema one evening, not knowing what we were about to watch. We barely spoke a word on the walk back to our halls. I’ll never forget that walk home. Brilliant film that I’ve probably seen a hundred times, but haven’t watched for a few years now. That’s something we will have to remedy, as Uncle Argyle said in Braveheart😊
I'm a simple man. I see a video essay on Se7en, I click.
One of my favouite characters is the city itself, the sound design is so amazing that in nearly every scene you always hear background noise from the city. it really grounds you into the world and how oppressive it all is.
What a wonderful film, the ending took me by surprise, did not see it coming. Great performances from the cast and nice idea of the deadly sins.
Absolutely remarkable
I was shaking the first time I watched Se7en, filled with suspense, tension and mystery. One of my all time favorite movies, my favorite David Fincher film,”
Doe was exhibiting wrath with every f-ed up torture and murder he committed. How does he not get that?
Late reply, but I think he saw himself as god or a worker of god to kill other people committing the sins. So in his head him killing those people committing the sins wasn’t a sin, he was just doing gods work. Then at the end he realized he was fucked up and envied a normal life like Brad Pitts. Therefore he committed a sin which is envy, and he had to be killed for it. He got killed by Brad which made Brad a wrath. Finishing all the sins. I might be wrong just my speculation.
the most terrifying thing about this film isn't that the main characters hate the psychopath but they get checkmated into a situation where they cannot disagree with him.
I love getting to vote on upcoming topics, can't wait to see what's next
Agreed and Same!
Se7en just had a great impression upon me when I first watched it. It’s thrilling, it’s creepy, it’s even funny at times with occasional jokes. But I love the characters and love being with them, the dialogue is well written, too, and I find so much to unpack when it comes to the themes of this film! Se7en is a masterpiece and one of the greatest films ever made! Gets better with each viewing and it’s a masterpiece! A top five favorite movie for me!
There’s a fan theory that Se7en takes place in Gotham before Batman. Obviously just a fun theory but it would make sense. John Doe is a total Batman villain and the city is decrepit. No sun. Rains all the time. That’s so Gotham. It’s like we’re following 2 GCPD detectives. Awesome theory.
Would be cool to see but companies are too money hungry to collaborate
@@ry4ngu11ot2 or it can just be its own thing and doesn't need to be forced into a crossover
ohh actually this is genius
Also I feel like Nolan took inspiration from this film for the Joker in The Dark Knight considering he plays with Batman's mind and how John Doe plays with Mills mind.
Not just Gotham, also Seattle but the movie featured in Seven is no where near as run down, grim, soulless and depressing as Seattle.
Brad Pitts performance at the end of this movie as he learns his wife's head is in the box is outstanding. A great GREAT movie!!!
The fact that it turns out Kevin Spacey wasn't acting makes this film that much more terrifying.
What do you mean?
6:32 "with Joe now in custody". I just wanted to point out he combined John and Doe into "Joe".... because it's the only flaw I can find in his otherwise flawless analysis. Well done, sir. Another enjoyable and insightful video. Keep them coming!! 😎👌
Definitely need more films like that reflects our real world and brings to light a lot of issues that we have on a daily basis.
This is a classic. Hands down one of the best. But the end, just really put me in a weird funk. Had to think how would I have reacted being in his shoes. It would break my heart
this is one of my favorite movies. the characters, the ambiance, the grundgy look just perfect. also that one dude they found still alive was legit scary/ creepy.
I love seeing your YT polls rewatching movies before you post your videos.
Thanks so much for exploring this movie ! I truly appreciate your content and I have been watching your videos for years ! Love u man
P.S. WHAT'S IN THE BOX!
When I was too young to watch this movie... I was greeted with a dark and ominous feel becuase of its cover picture... We were taught in elementary school about heaven and hell and the consequences if we commit crimes in this world... And by the time I finished the movie... I felt a psychological chill in my soul... Wicked life we live in these days... It stays true even in the test of time...
When I first saw this in ‘98, I was utterly shocked. I had to watch a few more times to catch all the details. For me, the most shocking was lust. I only caught the device in the 2nd viewing.
the movie is very elaborate,dont follow for 2 mins,and you can lose a very big chunk,and the story will lose half of its meaning...
Also,another thing i have noticed,especially with flicks like this one,best to watch alone! (watch it with your gf,you'll kiss 3 times in first half,and you will say movie is boring. Same if watching with your friends,make some jokes,hahaha,and half things become stupid)!
Movie is great tho...
The performance of the actor playing the man forced into the act (into an impossible choice!) was gut-wrenching. It conveyed the horror of what had been done to her and what he had now to live with far better than any graphic depiction. The shock of that sequence stayed with me after the film first came out - it was years before I could watch in a (slightly) more detached frame of mind, again.
Plot twist: The Seven Deadly Sins (originally called "The Seven Deadly Vices") aren't in the Bible. There are 10 Commandments, not 17.
Edit/Note: The vice of gluttony is actually more serious than mere overindulgence. In its original context, it meant a willingness to engage in personal overindulgence (in any particular thing, not just food or drink) while at the same time being callous toward the needy. In a similar sense, sloth meant more than mere laziness. It meant apathy.
Thanks for the details and context. My understanding is now richer
@@theccanyon My pleasure. ^w^
@@judsongaiden9878 nothing wrong with a man taking pleasure in his work.
-John Doe
The Bible does not specifically describe a set of “seven deadly sins.” However, it does teach that practicing serious sins will prevent a person from gaining salvation. For example, the Bible refers to such serious sins as sexual immorality, idolatry, spiritism, fits of anger, and drunkenness as “the works of the flesh.” It then states: “Those who practice such things will not inherit God’s Kingdom.”
@@Blind0062 "Spiritism" being a another word for sorcery.
I honestly hated the "what's in the box" quote because everyone one of my friends said it over and over again and half of them never saw the movie because their parents wouldn't let them.
Whats in the box?!?!?
i'm 14 i want to watch this but my parents won't let me. my friends said its not violent. how can I watch this? I know my mom's credit card number so I can give you to buy something if you help me.
@@swallowedinthesea11 Do not steal your moms credit card, don’t look up reviews either it’ll ruin it for you. Just wait until your allowed to watch it. Maybe watch it with your parents
@@jacobapplebaum7206 thanks! i'll wait than
@@swallowedinthesea11 if you’re interested the sixth sense is a good one and it’s Pg-13
"WHAT'S IN THE BOX?!?"
‐ Cowboy Morty
And Handsome Jack.
@@judsongaiden9878 that's the one I always remember lol
Seven basically took place in Gotham
Thank you for all your amazing content
Thanks for tuning in!
@@filmcomicsexplained of course I tune in, you videos are amazing. You helping understand the movies I love better than the movies itself.
Seriously, i love your synopsis. You make the best breakdown vids hands down. Keep it up and much love to ya!
Synopsis
I remember hearing about this in 2014 while in the Army. A friend told me it was a must watch. I watched it and man was he right.
It all makes sense now!
Probably the best movie of the year.
Although that year had many great films.
Back when movies were entertaining.
So glad you covered this classic. Fab work. 💜 from Philadelphia.
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I always had a different theory. Mills wife was killed because of envy. She wanted more: didnt like her apartment, didnt want to live in the city. She envied others who had it better than her. Then John Doe was killed because of his anger (wrath) towards the other sinners. Just an idea
John Doe already said that "envy is my sin". The point is, he envies all the people he killed or those people who had a sense of normalcy because it's something that he doesn't have. He hates people but at the same time he envies them for being free because he is not. Envy is a sin that people don't talk about, all the other sins are tolerated, but envy has always been frowned upon because it's the root of all evil. As I said he envies people who are free and so he pushed Mills to the point of rage so someone can kill him. Because at the very last minute he is a hypocrite, and that goes hand in hand with envy.
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Not liking your apartment, or the city you live in, are not, in themselves, envy. You can desire to improve your life without envying others. I am obese and on a diet; I want to be slimmer because my weight impacts on my health, not because I envy others for being thinner than me.
Maybe it is something deeper here and i must admit that i got into this comment section looking for different analysis.
Who is the victim of wrath?
Killing individuals for their sins or offering a sacrifice for them is biblical and rooted in the old testament, blood is payment for sins. For jewish converted to Christianity or christians there is forgiveness for sins and the blood of the Lamb (Christ) pays for those crimes, no need to kill the sinner. BASED on principle of marriage, since the very beginning, man and wife are one indivisible, then Moses allows writ of divorce BUT then Christ recovers the marriage as a union that two are united in one indivisible flesh. When i put this in the picture. At the last scene, the murderer confesses envy as his sin BUT says "i believe or guess, something in between the lines" i think he is the victim killed for envy and then my last mistery victim. At this point we do not have it unless the christian or pre-Moses principle of marriage is applied. The wife and Mills are one flesh indivisible by killing her he killed Mills and right before the murderer gets killed he said there comes "wrath" referring to Mills. I think this is enough to say that detective Mills got killed by his "Wrath" and you can throw the baby in the picture to add more of Mills being killed but i do not think is necessary.
John Doe felt David's wrath. No offense but watch it again and pay attention.
1995 was one hell of a year.
Se7en, Usual Suspects, Fight Club, Heat, Casino, Braveheart, 12 Monkeys, Bad Boys, Goldeneye, Billy Madison, Friday, Apollo 13, and Tommy Boy.
I do not disagree, but 'Fight Club' (also by David Fincher) came out in 1999. I saw it back then in a German cinema and I have kept the movie ticket from this evening, because I knew that I had just watched an all time classic movie - one of the best in the 20th century. Where is my mind...
@AugaAuf you are correct. My bad. Fight Club was 1999.
Would it be a bad idea for you to explore "o brother where art thou"
Ha! I forgot Gunney was in this film! That takes this excellent film from an 8.5 to a perfect 10. Gunney makes every film a classic.
Picking up on the nameless city and it being referred to as this place is full of meaning. Nice catch
I saw this in the movie theater when it came out. The audience was so quiet and we were all submerged in the story. That when walks into the police station it’s insane. All in shock about the box. So good
you videos are interesting, captivating and well constructed analyses of movies, there quite addictive and very good quality content to watch
Love this film so much. I hate that “What’s in the box?!” Is a meme at this point. I’ve had people laugh during that whole scene because they know the line. Ruins the moment.
I just watched a much longer video talking about the movie and the way you describe it resonates with me a lot more because of your choice of words and how you describe your interpretation. It also helps that your voice is so nice to listen to
Wow, thank you!
@@filmcomicsexplained You're welcome! Love your vids
Gwenyth Paltrow's character talked about working in schools upstate. I have always assumed the city is Nyc since New Yorkers usually use upstate.
This is a fantastic movie, especially the cinematography. In the movie Mills and Somerset are filmed in such a way that in the beginning they are never really in framed together and as the movie progesses they move closer and closer, eventualley overlapping in some frames
But, this level af detail is not surprising, David fincher is a well known perfectionist.
Btw: Mr. FilmComicsExplained are you going to make a video on the movie "The Wolf of Snow Hollow (2020)", if you have not watched it yet, i think you should.
Credit to the absolutely sublime work of DP Darius Khondji!
Saw this in the cinema, had no idea what to expect walking in. Totally blown away, especially by the ending. Couldn't even describe how I felt to my car load of mates as we drove home from the cinema.
Movie was great, one of those movies that I would erase from my mind and rewatch just to be amazed again
There's a comic book series that tells the story from the killer's perspective and also goes back to his childhood
I remember a friend loaning me the SE7EN comics around 2009ish (in exchange I loaned him my copies of Wild Dog, a DC vigilante set in our hometown). That compelled me to watch the film SE7EN, which lead to a deep love of psych horror/thrillers.
Dude.. Your analyzing of movies is superb. Just discovered your channel.
I really like this coverage of this movie. You explain it perfectly. Even after watching the dozen times, I was still confused on some of the stuff until now, thanks. Can't wait for the next one.
I adore all of your content. You do a fantastic job of dissecting some of the most fascinating fictitious worlds I have grown to love over the years. Thank you for your insightful and well thought out videos :)
Niyat, as you've grown as a content creator I find that you've become even more compeling and interesting to listen to. I am shamed to say that I was not seeing your videos in my feed as the algorithm can be regardless I love your work and keep on it amigo, thank you.
I love how kind somerset was to tracy.. (I agreed with his advice to her too.) Very dark film, one of my favorites.
Oh, good! One of my favorites. Thanks for the poll. I like getting what I want.😉Here we go!
Ah im early. And one of my fave movies too! I love your work. 💗
Thank you very much!
This video was awesome, well done. Se7en was a very interesting film to watch when I first saw it. Please do a video of EA’s Dante’s Inferno. Really enjoyed watching the animated film and video game.🙌🏼🔥 Have a good one, Nyiat.
She got herself put back together and married Ironman.
Lol
Love this new style of video, keep it up dude!
I remember seeing this in theaters when it came out, during the climax scene it was dead silent. No gasps, no screams, nothing. Everyone left the theater in silence, we were all shock at the ending. We all talked about for months later. Brilliant and intelligent film.
Love the theory I've only heard of recently about this story taking place in a pre-batman gotham! Of course, it wasn't intended to be, but the pieces line up and ill bet the new Batman will feel connected(at least in my head-cannon😉)
The fact that a movie about a serial killer ends this way is unprecedented. Only David Fincher could have the killer show himself clear 40 minutes before the ending and make him look like his murders were somewhat justified for a scene.
I went to see seven with my mum the first day it came out in the cinema and we both left the auditorium agreeing that it was a milestone in cinema noir.
This was another one of those movies that the most important time you watched it was the first time. The lack of knowing who John Doe was throughout the film, that it could have been anyone, was so thrilling. The movie was absolutely terrifying, in part, because we realized that this could be somewhere not too far from wherever you lived
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I always thought sloth was the most gruesome and grotesque of the sins in this movie...
This was/is a great flick, think I'll give it another watch tonight, very astute summing up of this classic btw
i cant believe you haven't do this amazing movie yet but still better late than never, good stuff 👍👍
I’m always looking forward to your videos thank you for the effort you put into every video.
Thank god you finally did this masterpiece
I am beyond happy to see you analyzing this movie it is a classic.
This was an enjoyable and enlightening video. I could watch an hour long deep dive into a specific film.
I like this movie but what I don’t like about this movie is the Lust Victim poor girl, she died by being rapid with a custom-made, bladed strap-on, representing lust, I can’t imagine the blood and torture the horror
i feel legitimately sick if i think about it too much. it's so gruesome for such a dumb motive (not calling the movie or plot dumb, just the killer's "logic" over his lust & gluttony victims). john doe rlly thought sex workers and fat ppl were comparable with pedophiles??
@@lj9392 I know but still
@@gerardorodriguez7500 oh yeah sorry i wasnt tryna argue. i just started rambling
Ik it's a movie but. People sure do love throwing hate upon sex workers then 5 seconds later go on some pornsite to jerk off. Then go back to hating them more
@@uwu-egirl-azzy their is a huge difference between doing something for fun and doing something for profit
not everyone who watches porn fucks hookers
"Wanting someone to listen to you, you can't just tap them on the shoulder anymore, you have to hit them with a sledgehammer, and then you'll find you have their strict attention"- JD , if I was in mills position I would have done the same , but can't help but think that no matter what I would have done I've already lost. One thing does bother me with the killing of mills wife? What happened to the dogs? I guess he probably took care of them quickly, also there is an alternate ending that suggests that somerset kills John instead of mills, food for thought.
Amazing work like always.
I kind of doubt that even if John Doe would have pleaded insanity, he still would have spent the rest of his days locked up.
It truly is an excellent film, by it's mood, there's a real sense of dread throughout. Even though the films about the 7 deadly sins. There is no sign of the Divine being present, it's as if the Divine has abandoned humanity to damnation and were witnessing the remnants of redemption. That character being Morgan Freemans older Detective.
I know there is a prequel comic but i always felt John Doe knew who Mills was before he came to the city
Great video! SE7EN is an excellent film, definitely one of my favourites.
You’re telling me: Se7en is actually just a modern take on The Devine Comedy? 🤯🤯
The Divine Comedy is the original fanfiction.
Change my mind.
@@dontbefatuousjeffrey2494 Its Fanfiction created by a Coping Crusader because they failed to take Jerusalem.
@@kennedy072 Should we love or hate Dante for creating the self-insert trope?
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The whole plot is Somerset’s dream/nightmare. He falls asleep right before the opening credits.
This video is fantastic, hugely enjoyable, thank you!
When i first saw this movie it was on TV and i was captivated. I went and rented it a day or two later. Needless to say, seeing it unedited was a bit of a shock. The Lust scene was horrifying without seeing any details. Just the man sitting in shock telling what happened. It's still a scene that shocks me just thinking of it. I think the last time I watched it, i fast forwarded through it
All great stories have great character arcs - and character arcs are always about identity - discovering it or redefining it. Every good story is about answering the question: "who am I?" This is a perfect example of story arc AS character arc. Each pivotal event brings him closer to reconsidering his retirement; the events of the story are there to lead him to recommit to his life as a cop.
Ty film comics explained for granting my wish
Great discussion! 10/10! This is one of my favorite movies of all time. Can't wait to se what's next?