N64 Analog Stick Replacement - GameCube Style on the Nintendo 64 / MY LIFE IN GAMING
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- Try4ce and Coury install a Gamecube-style analog stick for N64 controllers. Sounds great, but what do they think?
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Tryce, the big reason why the OEM stick has a finer degree of control is in the fact it is NOT "analog" as people call it. It actually functions a bit more like how older PC mice do.
The stick uses an opto-mechanical encoder, with springs. As each divot on the wedge passes through a sensor, the encoder sends out that "analog position" so far out in X or Y. So far, additional mods have been made with a soldered IC in the controller shell to add back the finer degree of control in the OEM sticks.
Lastly, the construction of the pivoting bowl and stick itself were not the highest quality. As the OEM sticks are used, the plastic in the pivoting bowl is ground out (and original lubricant drying out). That causes the "loose stick" issue that is so commonplace.
And I'm nerding out again..
+NightSprinter [Try4ce] Very interesting! Much as it blew me away in 1996, and as much as I have always thought the stick was mostly fine, I'm starting to rediscover that it's actually a very fascinating device, especially considering when it was made. And yeah, I've always been a bit uneasy with the "analog" terming myself - I always preferred Nintendo's official terms "control stick" and "control pad," but everyone says "analog stick" and "D-pad," so I've kinda switched over the years so that people know what I'm talking about.
+My Life in Gaming I always thought the stick was perfectly fine, but admittedly, I wish it was "less stiff" in the plastic - rubber would have been better overall.
There also was a reason for your controller NOT loosing its position (Sort of) My friend has a grey N64 controller, the stick has NO resistance, it literally flops over every direction.
I have two controllers (grey and red) which I had growing up and EXESSIVELY played the system. But was always more inclined to play via grey controller. So that control stick is "slightly" worse than the red, but the middle "prong" - actually lines up fine, my blue (no loose-stick) and the red one, both on the right middle prong "slightly" dont fit properly, and my friend said "yeah - your controllers have been opened before" -
Has yours done that at all? The reason your control stick and my own has not become loose (Although mine are a bit loose - but still playable, and I have gotten used to the loose element) There was two versions of the controller.
Version 1. I believe was from launch and they tried dying it off - are plastic, And have the control stick itself incased in a block - When you move the stick about, it causes the stick to grind against the chamber and wear down - it also becomes harder for it to read and register.
This version (and all other versions from my knowledge) have lights that fires through to register movement (Like a ball mouse)
Version 2. was a metal casing for the chamber, which made it much more resistant against becoming loose - but was "slightly" more expensive to make. it did NOT mean your controller will never become loose - its just, it does not loose its resistance as quickly - Which was a nice thing.
+My Life in Gaming the replacement sticks (all of them) are inputting in 2s instead of 1s which is why you're getting that sensitivity. 3D platformers are impossible with any of them. The ONLY game I found that I do decent with is Starfox. I can't believe you didnt add the Raphnet adapter. I have been looking for a solution to my N64 joystick problem for years and years 2007 to be exact and havent found any solution except the hori pad UNTIL I found out about the raphnet gamecube to N64 adapter. If you haven;t tried them out, I have the 1st and 2nd revision and Id be MORE than happy to lend them to you for a review. I promise youre not going to want to play on anything else. The adapter also has memory and you can select different macros and save them so I can play goldeneye with call of duty controls using both joysticks. You can purchase replacement joysticks for the gamecube controller and replace the C stick with no modification, it slips right on so both of the sticks match. The product is supposed to have virtually no noticeable lag and I have found that to be the case in all of my games. I can even pull off some (almost) frame perfect jumps speedrunning SM64 so there isn;t a problem in that regard. Let me know if you;d like me to send one to you. Thanks for the great content!
That is interesting, as a new hack I saw utilizes a programmed PIC (I forgot which one, exactly) for the GC-styled ones to actually create the necessary steps in movement to make up for the standard deficiency that the standard replacement mod has.
N.E.R.D
I replaced my oldest and most used N64 controller with a GC style stick and almost immediately I had an issue with it not responding after playing a long while. It would make me move in one direction, so I had to reset my controller via the reset button input. I was wondering if getting a replacement N64 style stick would eliminate the problem and would feel more like the original stick.
It's too late now anyway, my Grape N64 controller has quite literally been falling apart with each use. The casing is shattered. But man, I remember when I opened the thing up and saw that there was nothing left of the mechanism that made the analog stick work. After playing it to oblivion for many years, it simply stopped working because the insides were worn to dust.
RIP Grape N64 controller, you did good.
The only people that hate the N64 are the ones not holding the middle arm with their left hand when using the analog controls.
NLuKa420 why wouldn't you when every game uses a and b...........
NLuKa420 i grew up with the n64 ONLY using the middle and right stick,i cringe when i see people use the left one, and when i first played wrestlemania 2000 i got so pissed at first when i realized you cant use the analog stick,you have to use the d pad for that game.
SoulEradicator [GD] yeah,for me its comfortable as hell
I agree
I think it's very comfortable, but the stick just sucks.
these dudes are awkward and uncomfortable in front of the camera, and i like that
keep making more videos
how can you possibly like that? This dude needs a coach
@@eriks8382 Eat shit you elitist douche. These guys are real, and that's why so many of us enjoy their work. We don't need more actors in the world: we need more genuine, passionate people like these guys.
Nick Hartman that’s probably why he loves how awkward they are. Because he can tell that they’re very genuine and passionate in what they do. Idk
I don't find them awkward
Thank you so much for exposing your personal opinions!!
The larger dead zone and lack of sensitivity definately repel me from doing this mod!
Love you guys!
Just a small observation, but Cory said the dead zone was greater, not smaller.
+Stickygod [Try4ce] You're right! And Coury is right. My brain at 12:30 in the morning was not right and I said the exact opposite thing of what I meant. We added an annotation, thanks for pointing that out.
RIP annotations
Amazing quality videos, especially for a channel that's not very well known. Just got a new sub, keep it up!
Wtf... This guy knows how to film and edit videos.
such quality on a small-ish channel!!
Dumbass! There are many other youtubers who can also edit videos. You act like he's the only one!
or maybe he acts like there are quite a few that can't... Coury is a video editor by profession, so I'd hope the videos were well edited.
This guy are sick!
@@chestosneakoinc wow you really dont know what a Joke is
I really love this channel, your jobs is amazing guys, the way you love gaming and the intro music are just top!
I love this channel. You guys are pretty cool. Keep it up dudes, I love it!
Great video as always. Was gonna do this mode until I saw this and now I think I'm gonna hold off. Really appreciate it.
Thank you so much for your honesty! Now I know to bring the old stick back to life in the best way. Thank you!!
Fascinating insight as always boys and excellent use of music!
I was already enjoying the video, and then the Blast Corps soundtrack kicked in and elevated it further. Time to go fire that up again. Keep up the good work, lads!
for me it was the best controller of the 90s
Really.
No.
Me too! I love that thing! I mean look at it. It looks so cool!
Same here. It was pure magic when it was released. I can still remember where I was when I got to play Super Mario 64 Japanese release before it was released in the states (a mall game store). I was entranced.
Well i haven't met a official controller i didn't like. Its usually the third party stuff that sucks.
3rd party potentiometers in analog sticks are always horrible, no exceptions. What you should do is swapping them out with some good ones, preferably with some from a dead 1st party Gamecube controller. It is a way harder process and definitely one for advanced users only, but it pays off. The" dead zone" gets eliminated and you do get all of the directions which stock 3rd party potentiometers simply don't have (they tend to register only 45° turns, or 8 directions, and only 3 positions of pushing/pulling the stick - almost nothing, medium and full, with nothing in between, basically making them an advanced d-pad, but still a d-pad).
Alen Vejzagić The issue with this replacement joystick is the microcontroller converting the signal from the potentiometer to the same kind of signal from the original stick. It doesn't work exactly as it should for some reason. I wonder what Repairbox was thinking. Severatius made a video about it a couple years ago. It's missing some degrees of movement in both axis.
8:11 what dead zone? I did what this guy said and boom deadzone gone
I was raised on n64 since 2003, Im used the the original controller and love it. You did great making this video and camparing the 2 controllers.
I am so glad I found your videos. So much love to retro ! Thank´s n keep up the good work. Mr. Damon
I 100% agree
One of my N64 controller had a dead stick, but like really.. really... dead, it just had to be replaced!
So I went with the Gamecube Style stick, but it really blows!
Luckily they also sell original N64 replacement sticks, so I got that one instead, and now it feel likes a new controller! Love it!
My best friend and I would have to get new 64 controllers at least once a year because of the obscene amount of Smash Bros we played! Also, Mario 64 can be pretty rough on the stick if you go heavy with the flips and Bowser fights.
But yeah, still LOVE my 64 controllers to this day, and was thrilled to find replacement sticks for all my worn ones a few years ago. (Never got rid of any of them, and because we always bought new colors, I wound up with quite the colorful collection!)
Put some grease on the stick.
1:50 That's My all time favorite controller, in fact that exact model green translucent controller is my favorite one I got back in 2003. lol
I love the series you guys are doing a real how to for retro gaming.
I don't know what all the fuss is about with the acting, but I really enjoyed the video and how you both conveyed everything. The epic outtro song along with the speech made for a solid ending!
Oh how I love Blast Corps and it's wonderful soundtrack.
I LOVE the N64 controller! I loved! I still love it! And it was very important for the gaming community
Great video, My Life in Gaming!
Thank you for this. I Almost bought the GC stick but now after watching your video i know it wont be the right way to treat my baby N64 controller. I want to keep it as original as possible.
You just gotta replace the gears inside the analog stick
The Nintendo 64 controller joystick was beautiful, the accuracy is unrivaled when you owned a new official one, but sadly the chosen material let down an otherwise spectacular design with optical/digital input.
I love that you made a video about this. I'm glad we were able to chat during your live stream. I hope you love your new analog stick.
+Raven575 [Try4ce] Haha, was it you? Thanks for pointing it out!
+My Life in Gaming I saw the "credit" at the end...LOL. I'm just glad to help out in any way. I'll try to pop in to any future live streams that I can. I really appreciate the videos you guys make. This info that you share is usually not easy to find and, a lot of times, even harder to decipher. Keep up the great work.
To clarify, I was the N64 Analog stick info. Another person had the Lodgenet Controllers info. Cheers.
I'm glad you posted this video. I repaired some N64 controllers many years ago with GC-style joysticks. The deadzone is horrible, but most importantly, the ones I got don't have the same max range of movement. So you aim in GoldenEye, press the joystick to the left/right edge, but the aiming doesn't move far enough to turn the player movement. The N64 has a design flaw that the stick gears wear out and the cup which the joystick sits in grinds away as you press on the stick. These days you can get replacement gears off eBay and they're a much better option.
I love this channel, I host pop up arcades and the information you have blessed with has really help. Thank you guys ! If you're ever in Toronto let me know
I like the mix of viewpoints presented
These are the best videos! I love ya man.
Such an awesome video!! It´s so nice to see how much they love their consoles. So did I, unfortunatly I dont have my consoles anymore...
Got the GameCube style analogue sticks for both my controllers and they work great
Your videos have the best intro music I've heard.
Love the Blast Corps music! Nice choice.
1080 snowboarding was the game that destroyed the n64 stick in hours
No way Mário party does even a gamecube analog stick become loss after 2 days of gameplay
Your voice sounds like Tom Hanks...
A drunk Tom Hanks
normie twice removed
A little bit
WILSON!!!!!!!!!
I think it was during there 8bitdo controller stream somebody asked him to do a tom Hanks impersonation and he screamed Wilson. Best ting ever :)
You know what he really sounds like, he sounds likes Steven's Dad from Steven Universe
Loved hearing again the familiar Blast Corps music
;D
That's insane!! I swear if i only had the foresight to keep my n64 long ago i could have resold those controllers as pristine. I never had issues with bad sticks until i re purchased my n64 just a few years ago and replaced all the really bad sticks with aftermarket not as bad sticks as well.
I’ve never used the middle handle and still love the n64 controller. Growing up with giant third party genesis controllers trained me well
I don't understand how these videos have so few views. So great.
Great video. I'm currently in the market for a new N64 controller and I really appreciated the detailed information here.
The N64 controller is still my all time favorite. In 1997 I crush-amputated my left hand and actually became better at Goldeneye playing with only my right hand than I was playing with the two controller method. Mind you I loved the controller equally as much when I still had two good hands.
Thanks for the video.
There is a bit of a fix to the dusty and loose control stick that I thought you would cover in this video. I tried it out myself and it wasn't that hard. At 5:28 you accidentally disassembled the control stick and it showed all the dust in that white bowl. The dust comes from that bowl being scratched by the control stick as you keep moving it around. Eventually (to my understanding) you scratch it too much that the surface in that bowl is now too low for the control stick to sit on properly, and becomes loose.
What you do in that stage shown at 5:28 is clean off all the dust with a Q-tip and add a little bit of White Lithium grease to the bowl, just enough for it to spread inside. That black thing sitting on the bowl is like a swing, its the X-axis (or was it the Y axis?), you also put a bit of grease in it so that when it makes contact with the other axis, it's slippery.
What this does is make the control stick not scratch the bowl anymore, as the grease is making the surface slippery, lubricated. And this will prevent the stick to ever become loose, or create more dust. You can even put your ear in the control stick and move it around before and after this small fix and notice how different it sounds, and not necessarily because the dust isn't there anymore.
This is the video I followed to do this small fix, check it out:
th-cam.com/video/OEJmSQjONRg/w-d-xo.html
Oh and btw, great videos. I'm looking forward to your new stuff and subbed!
Awesome video, and I have an extra green N64 controller I found not too long ago at a goodwill for $.50 that has a broken Analog stick, so yeah I'll for sure look into the GameCube Analog stick.
Good job and great info. Goober and Shirley!
Wow! That comment I made from that PCE Works stream a few weeks ago about the N64 Joystick replacement… Got it's own episode? Who knew. Regardless, as always-excellent video, guys. Keep up the GREAT work!
To me It´s one of the best controller in the world.
Mario Kart 64 will always be my favorite racing game, and drifting with the 64 analog stick is one of the biggest reasons I think I love it so much. Also, probably where these sticks take most of their beatings from.
Yep. Remember seeing a few of those LodgeNet setups in hotels as a kid. You weren't kidding about the prices, haha.
Excellent review! Honestly, I'm not too surprised a 3rd party replacement part wasn't as spot on as the real deal. It's unfortunate though, because I was really excited for this to be THE replacement for my janky 64 analog sticks. Oh well.
I feel the same. When I play goldeneye with the autoaim disabled and set the controls to turok-style I can easily get headshots. The same is not true with any other console FPS I've played, as trimpots just don't have the same precision as the optical sensors in the N64 analog. People keep saying controllers don't match mice in precision, I think the gap would be much fewer if not negligible if modern analogs were like the N64's instead of the crappy ones we have today.
Its good to still see alternatives and fixes for the old N64. I still play mine to this day and I found a aftermarket controller made by Yobo which I will say is the best N64 controller I ever used, not only is it bigger so your hands don't feel cramped but the analog stick on it uses a ball and is very similar to PS1 thumbsticks. It's responsive, precise and even the D-Pad on it is great.
l love the n64 controller left and right handers alike...and the trigger underneath..genius... my fav....controller
every time i pick up my n64 controller i love it i still wouldn't swap it for any other controller . that feeling of it in the hand is the best nostalgia is defs clouding my judgement
I quite like the N64 controller. I kept a few with perfect analog sticks from my time working at EB, but my original pack-in is still going strong.
Props for the blast corps music
All you need to repair your original stock n64 joysticks are replacement plastic thumbsticks (that aren't worn down from rubbing in the dome track) and white lithium grease to lubricate them so they never wear again! No replacement module can hope to compare to the original modules in terms of precision and smoothness, my repairs went so well that I was surprised at how immersed I was able to get into my old 64 games again! The sticks are like new!
I find that a lot of bad analog sticks seems to have been ground down over time. It is a little bit trickier, but if disassemble the analog assembly (as you did in the video), you will find it collects plastic dust in the bottom. Cleaning this out and reassembling can really improve the original assembly.
I used to love watching people struggle to figure out how to hold the N64 pad. Their instinct was to always hold the two outside prongs and reach across with their thumb to the analogue stick. When they did that I just watched for them to need to his the Z trigger. The pad gets some flack but it's a really versatile design suited for all sorts of games.
Also, nice log cabin setting you got there Try.
+Mellow Gaming [Try4ce] Heh, yeah, I was 12 when I first saw an N64 demo kiosk at Toys R Us, and I forget if my first instinct was holding the outside prongs or holding it with my fingers like a joystick, but whichever I did, I definitely did it wrong! It wasn't until a friend rented a system a few weeks later that I even knew the Z button existed. Blew my mind!
Heh, I installed two panels of wood paneling in my studio room for shooting purposes back in May. Best thing I've ever done, love that old-fashioned look!
It makes a change from seeing TH-camrs stood in front of Ikea bookshelves filled with games that are nearly always shot flat on. The presentation on your videos is superb. I noticed you're rarely in the same spot from one video to the next which helps keep things visually interesting.
+My Life in Gaming HA! Gotta have the wood grain!
I remember seeing commercials of people playing the 64 and remembering how they were holding the controller, so I never had a problem when I played the demo unit in Toys R Us... ;)
I browsed a catalogue right now and i found something interesting - some aftermarket sticks are different from sticks that ship even in modern consoles. They contain a silvered no-resistance area around the center of both potentiometers, essentially making for an additional complex deadzone. Probably good for something, but not how original sticks work, they simply correct the deadzone in software. Something to be aware of when replacing sticks.
This is my favourite console and controller ever
i just don't fuck around with 3rd party controller anything for nintendo consoles as a general rule. everything i've tried from anyone other than nintendo on a nintendo console always pales significantly in comparison. also imho the n64 controller is one of the best ever made and it absolutely set the standard for absolutely every controller that came after it. even the playstation didn't have analogue sticks or force feedback until after the n64 pioneered both of these features on a home console.
Blast Corps music!! Hell yeah
Like a few others have said the replacement gears that you can buy for the Nintendo 64 controller from Kitch- Bent are awesome. They use a much sturdier plastic than the originals and as long as the bowl of the controller isn't too worn out though usually fix the problem. I've currently fixed about 20 controllers using these and have had great results.
It sounds like you got the first model of the GameCube style replacement joystick. A newer one was released and it fixes the main issue you talked about. More degrees of movement were added and the stick feels tighter. The dead zone is also nearly unnoticeable. One thing they changed that has received mixed opinions on was their decision to not include a rubber covered stuck this time around.
Can an update video about the Gamecube style analog stick be possible given the information?
i got mine from a seller called "Video Game Museum" on ebay. it doesn't have a rubber cap, but I found I didn't have any of the issues you spoke of. deadzone, less precision in the angles and so forth. idk, might be worth looking into for yourself, I love the upgrade.
in fact using an N64 controller, VGM's GC stick upgrade, and Raphnet's 64>GC adapter, I've been happily playing Smash 4 competitively for a few months now without any issue
I did it years ago and the stick I used was gamecube style but it doesn't suffer from the issues yours has. It is very smooth and a must have. They must have changed the stick internals.
It's also not rubbery its hard
There's been so many developments in replacement sticks, it would be worth doing another video about this.
I've replaced a stick on a controller that had a replacement N64 style joystick that was quite sensitive with an 8BitDo hall effect stick.
And wow, the 8BitDo comes very close to an original OEM stick!
Thanks for the info i was wondering because i have only one N64 controller and i was thinking of doing the conversion. Glad i didn't now lol
I’m an oddball because I LOVE the N64 controller when I first held I fell in love with it
Yep, so I was going to get one of these, now I'm thinking maybe I just save my money, I managed to get a good controller with a good stick, I'll keep it as it is.
a 90's kid's DREAM
thumbs up for testing 3rd party controller sticks, so we don't need to buy crappy ones, which are a LOT!
Love your show
U have the best Intro Ever!
I'm so glad to hear that I'm not the only one feeling a sense of uncannyness with the replacement stick.
I've been using it for a couple of years now and I've always felt that the response was lacking a lot in comparrison to the original stick.
It's really hard do aim carefully or be careful in general. Once you push it, it's usually everything or nothing.
I would have loved if we could just get a replacement stick that resembled the original a lot better. Maybe just with some improvement to the quality and lifespan of the stick.
Dude sounds like Tom Hqnks hahaha.
Great video! Spot on.
I bought a joystick like this in 2012 I think and it was perfect even thought there was no rubber part on the top ... There is no dead zones and everything works very nicely even today 5 years later :)
I think it all depends on where are you buying the analog from
I need to switch my sticks back. I did this a few years ago and I do like it but once I got a NTSC-J N64 on eBay the controller it came with was mint. Oh my god does it feel better then the replacement sticks
The main part on the stock stick that goes bad is the X and Y Axis gears, especially the X-Axis gear. The gear-replace process is a bit trickier than installing a new analog stick. The gears are fortunately pretty cheap though I don't know how much shipping of them costs. Kitsch-Bent has a set of replacement gears for $0.87 a piece. The replacement gears are pretty good though not quite as good as the rare stock gears that are in good shape. You need to scrape off a bit of what's called "flash" due to the molding process. Reassembling the analog stick is a bit tricky though. There is also a way to make a small pcb that interperets the joystick more accurately for the GC style stick but that is considerably more advanced. My personal N64 controller just has a stock N64 analog stick that was in good condition replace the old one. Additionally using ceramic grease can keep the N64 analog stick's internal parts from grinding eachother down more.
I found them to be an improvement, not just because the design of the old ones grinding themselves away over the last 20 years meant that when I hooked them into my USB adapter and looked at the diagnostic I discovered I'd lost 20-30% of response. I haven't noticed the fine control issue you had with them in MarioKart or Perfect Dark, my go to games. To be honest, I've had to dial back my instinctive responses for the restored full register of motion. Also, I don't know offhand if I got mine from the same vendor but they were in the same box you showed so are definitely the same ones.
You saved me almost buying 4 of these
I thought about getting a replacement, but after seeing this, I'm beginning to having second thoughts now.
[Coury] Check out our recent episode on controller adapters. We cover a GameCube to N64 controller adapter that would be a better alternative than installing this stick.
It's possible to get a new pcb for the new stick, with that new pcb the stick is just perfect
My n64 stick is still fine after all these years and I've played it a lot.
I love the Nintendo 64 controller. It's comfortable. I love the joystick but they wore out quick. I got 2 of my authentic Nintendo 64 controller joysticks replaced 2-3 years ago with the Repair Box's GameCube style joystick. I like it but I still prefer the original stick. Old Skool Sharpshooter joystick replacement is great. Looks and feels like the original authentic Nintendo 64 joystick.
Responding to the intro, I went from SNES to Playstation and when I got Spyro, my eyes opened. I heard about super mario and other games but never got to see them or play them until after I played Spyro.
Id say to invest in a hori minipad if you're a big n64 player. just a shame it's not perfect for all n64 games and the stick can be a little sensitive for some games
+N64 Glenn Plant I also purchased a Hori Minipad after torturing myself with research. It's easily the best controller for the N64 that fits my needs, with a plus for having to rear triggers that are BOTH the Z button. My one and smaller complaint is about the build quality for the front facing buttons. They feel almost sticky.. and after multiple disassembly and cleaning sessions, I came to realize, that's just how they are. For the most part though, if having a near perfect analog stick is your goal, then the Hori pads are the way to go.
+N64 Glenn Plant [Try4ce] Does it also not have the full analog input range that the original stick has? I've come close to buying one a few times, but two things hold me back... one, I'm very very unsure about how I feel about how it handles the Z buttons. And two, I like the feel of the N64 controller in the first place, and my analog sticks are quite fine... so I've never been able to get myself to drop that much money when I'm already fairly happy.
+N64 Glenn Plant
I had those at first (had 4 of them), but I felt there were too small, even for my tiny hands, thumbs kept touching. Also, the Z trigger was converter to 2 front shoulder buttons, making them hard to reach (unlike L triggering like they did for GameCube games like Zelda WW). Finally, playing games like Kirby 64 that requires the D-pad is impossible because not only is it small like the GameCube d-pad, but also because of it's position and proximity to the buttons.
+My Life in Gaming i tried writing something to explain how it handles but its just something to have to try for yourself. just buy one and if you dont like it just pack it away somewhere, sell it in a couple of years and brake even. that how i rationalise most of the gaming crap i buy :p
+My Life in Gaming yeah its really only useful for certain games. Take fzero x for example it gives you much tighter control when you get used to it but for other games the z button positioning isn't ideal which is why i still prefer the original for general gaming. plus most fighting games and the awesome THQ wrestling games are not playable with the hori mini pad. if you want to borrow one to try just let me know you can always borrow mine if you'd rather test it before dropping that much on one
your video leaves a very positive position on the n64. I for one Iove the N64 my favorite game is Paper Mario ❤
Love The Intro Music
I ordered the gamecube style stick as well to see what it was about, and yeah, Try is right. The deadzone and snap are very noticeable.
Interesting mod, sorry to hear it didn't work out as well as you'd hoped. I ponied up for a Hori Mini last year and, I gotta say, it was worth it. For anything that doesn't use the d-pad (i.e. wrestling games), it's the best controller option for the 64. I recommend it to anyone.
Good video dudes
Love the Phantasy Star wall stickers Coury! Where did you find those?
My biggest gripe with the analog replacements is that they're fairly expensive... I mean, I could basically buy a brand new 3rd party controller for the price of an analog replacement which may or may not be as good as the original anyways. That being said, I do appreciate official controllers and they're much better than 3rd party.
This is a really late response but I can assure you that the cheaper end 3rd party controllers are absolute garbage. I don't like these replacement sticks either because of the accuracy issues. imo the best bet is to buy used official controllers, just be sure the seller has the stick listed as *tight* and has no other flaws to report.
The aftermarket sticks don't have good interpolation programmed into the microcontroller that drives them. It basically takes the input from the potentiometers that exist in the stick and convert it to the 'steps' in the original control stick. But it doesn't smoothly calculate it, so there are issues with it. A replacement PCB with a properly programmed microcontroller is available, but it requires opening of the replacement stick and soldering components onto the replacement board, so it's not so accessible to all gamers. Some people selling the aftermarket stick -may- be switching out the boards, but it's hard to say for sure.
My friend who's a Super Mario 64 speedrunner bought this mod a while back. He uses the regular N64 controller for his entire run, but always switches to this controller right at the part during the Bowser fights where you have to spin Bowser around in a circle to reach the optimal speed, and then switches back to his regular N64 controller admittedly.
I honestly didn’t have analog problems with my original controllers either. The controller I later bought online was almost unusable until I replaced it.
Try4ce you should analize the steel stick, it's substitute the plastic parts that get lose and break by steel, the reviewers said it was great.