The logic for why people say platforms are bad for Mac is idiotic. People think "oh characters can camp Mac on them" as if platform camping is a practical, legitimate strategy. Mac having platforms to maneuver around helps him with his approaches, setups, and mixups way more than he's hurt by the hypothetical platform camping that nobody ever actually does.
@@sbevenine2055 yea as a ganon main tho i prefer platforms vs mac. well i prefer platforms all the time. it's hard to approach as ganondorf without platforms and also up smash goes brrr
@@te0nzin Playing Ganon without platforms is so difficult even against characters with no peojectiles also it's fun when you hit down tilt under a platform and just up smash because they can't escape it
@@sbevenine2055 yea but especially hard against projectile fighters. i still win most of the time against a friend who plays yink on FD but he's like 8mio gsp and i'm at almost 10.5mio. it's a completely different game for me.
I feel that Peanut really began to utilize his shield on the last stage, as punishing Ike's aerials from a grounded position isn't hard at all, you just need to adjust to his range and then his options become pretty limited.
Little Mac was one of my first characters before I even knew who peanut was but I don’t understand why he didn’t use counters? People might say because it leaves him open but I mean I’m pretty sure little mac’s up B leaves you more vulnerable than a counter lol. Regardless it was a great match!
Again, I wish Peanut could start doing more run up raw k.o. punches, they work, really well. It makes me stressed seeing him getting so many k.o. punches and losing then by something as punny as an upthrow, wtf
when joe J was using it to snap to ledge? yes, but not a good move. Ike probably would've gotten to the ledge an invincibility'd through the counter, leaving peanut off the stage. would peanut have recovered? yes, but that leaves him in a good spot to get smashed by Joe J's sword. Peanut was more likely farming for more on stage interactions which is where mac shines
I don't think most counters catch sweet spotted Quickdraw to ledge, so counter attempts would need to be off stage. Even then it's possible for the Ike player to recover high and land on stage, or short charge Quickdraw and drift to stage without throwing out a hurtbox. The amount of mixups and the sheer speed of Quickdraw give Ike a surprisingly decent recovery.
They mean in terms of the stage pick, players will just say "run it back" when they either are fine with the current ban/pick situation or they just don't care
Ah, but when the third game started, the scoreboard still said Joe only had one win. So I thought it meant they'd just not count that one win and redo the fight.
As a Mac main it is SO frustrating to see Peanut almost never use the counter. There's so many situations where he would've been okay, but instead was at a disadvantage
@@lamie0237 Explain the skill based flowchart of fsmash ftilt upsmash dash attack ko punch and how you’re being held at gunpoint to play “the worst character in the game”
@@user-zy2ts8kn7c aight first of all it was just a question lol second of all, no one is holding me at gunpoint lmao. It's a lot simpler than that "Mac Bad. But Mac Cool. Play Mac even though he Bad :)" And sure while his overall moveset might be pretty simple, it is equivalent to how simple it is for him to die also.
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11:44 That Mac combo to KO Punch was *Chef's Kiss*
Too based + Underrated comment + TRUEING + I am a mac main
Everyone says Little Mac hates platforms, but Peanut just couldn't land safely at all when they were taken away in game 5
On curtain match ups, FD is great for Mac but for most match ups especially Samus or Min Min, Mac needs platforms
The logic for why people say platforms are bad for Mac is idiotic. People think "oh characters can camp Mac on them" as if platform camping is a practical, legitimate strategy. Mac having platforms to maneuver around helps him with his approaches, setups, and mixups way more than he's hurt by the hypothetical platform camping that nobody ever actually does.
@@sbevenine2055 yea as a ganon main tho i prefer platforms vs mac. well i prefer platforms all the time. it's hard to approach as ganondorf without platforms and also up smash goes brrr
@@te0nzin Playing Ganon without platforms is so difficult even against characters with no peojectiles also it's fun when you hit down tilt under a platform and just up smash because they can't escape it
@@sbevenine2055 yea but especially hard against projectile fighters. i still win most of the time against a friend who plays yink on FD but he's like 8mio gsp and i'm at almost 10.5mio. it's a completely different game for me.
What an awesome set! Quite close. Both players did an amazing job
peanut's mac gives me hope
Joe J played so well! I don't think he missed any kill confirms. That d tilt reverse to back air is pretty hard!
No
@@sahlaysta3399 no u
11:38 this whole recovery and sequence was SICK
That shield break then taunt was fire
I really loved Joe-J's usage of Ike's back air!!
why they gotta play that goofy-ass pacman song on game 5 FD 😂😂😂
@Princelawrenz Hamlin hard disagree
@Princelawrenz Hamlin jesus dude, i was just stating my opinion; no need to go so hard
I feel that Peanut really began to utilize his shield on the last stage, as punishing Ike's aerials from a grounded position isn't hard at all, you just need to adjust to his range and then his options become pretty limited.
I agree! I believe he also over-extended on a lot of smash attacks towards the end, which Joe-J was happy to punish
11:42 That was indeed beautiful
11:45 you know Peanut had a big ass smile under that mask.
both played great. what an amazing set
game 5 KO punch does not come in clutch, it seems X)
That was an epic set. Great work, boys!
13:06 My man INVENTED the Chucking Sword
a very enjoyable set
11:44 Bro, that wasn't beautiful, that was gorgeous!! Nice K.O. from Peanut
So glad Joe-J brought his Ike back., his Ike is to clean bro ggs
I didn't even know who Joe-J was, but damn that Ike is clean indeed.
Very clean and impressive Ike, yeah. I can't help but root for Peanut, though. I don't know what it is, his Mac is just so fun to watch win.
3:22 Bruh i'm stealing that, that was sick
Ippo vs Guts
what a set
JOE'S PEANUTS
Amazing set. Both played amazing
Seeing peanut punish Joe's side-b to ledge with counter got me giddy.
Ive started using this against my friend's ike and it works
Little Mac was one of my first characters before I even knew who peanut was but I don’t understand why he didn’t use counters? People might say because it leaves him open but I mean I’m pretty sure little mac’s up B leaves you more vulnerable than a counter lol. Regardless it was a great match!
Agreed, especially with how much joe-j used his up b and side b to ledge it would have been an easy punish for both of those.
Man that was the luckiest dash attack at game 5
6:34 “I feel like it’s very *GUTsy* going for that up+b”
Berserk fans 👁👄👁
lmao ike is basically guts
@@MissingScrew27 I watch the Ike main Guts on yt lol, his black skin is so similar
Again, I wish Peanut could start doing more run up raw k.o. punches, they work, really well. It makes me stressed seeing him getting so many k.o. punches and losing then by something as punny as an upthrow, wtf
DANGIT. Dash attack?
Great set guys
4th match finish actually made me bust
I feel peanut had so many ko chances. Imo sometimes just raw ko works
I was thinking the same, but it’s so punishable if you miss. I respect his restraint
11:45 OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH
Amazing set
Could peanut have used counter against Ike’s sideB recovery?
when joe J was using it to snap to ledge? yes, but not a good move. Ike probably would've gotten to the ledge an invincibility'd through the counter, leaving peanut off the stage. would peanut have recovered? yes, but that leaves him in a good spot to get smashed by Joe J's sword. Peanut was more likely farming for more on stage interactions which is where mac shines
I don't think most counters catch sweet spotted Quickdraw to ledge, so counter attempts would need to be off stage. Even then it's possible for the Ike player to recover high and land on stage, or short charge Quickdraw and drift to stage without throwing out a hurtbox. The amount of mixups and the sheer speed of Quickdraw give Ike a surprisingly decent recovery.
We need more Peanut!! Get behind this lil Mac people, I wanna see Mac win a grand finals in 2021
Joe J is incredibly good. Wont be surprised if he makes leaps in the future
Let's go Peanut! 🔥
Usually I root for Peanut, but I'm an Ike main so... Yeah
Im literally Joe j and I play ike
Peanut is our favorite dreamer
Fucking Peanut...PARRRYYYYYYY!! lol
That was fun!
How do you sign up for this? I feel like I can beat these two
I hope these two fight again
Darn! Peanut almost had it! Keep trying, Peanut! Do not give up!
Wait what do they mean "run it back"? Can a player just up and say "Yeah I didn't like losing there that didn't count let's do it again"?
They mean in terms of the stage pick, players will just say "run it back" when they either are fine with the current ban/pick situation or they just don't care
is just play again in the same stage
Ah, but when the third game started, the scoreboard still said Joe only had one win. So I thought it meant they'd just not count that one win and redo the fight.
@@Erikuzuma i think they were just confuse for the scoreboard
@@Erikuzuma I got confused too haha, the editors messed up
Imagine down tilt landing at 7:48
4:01 wow
This whole game was a clip
does anyone know why they are wearing masks? I mean I get how its covid and all but we don’t where masks anywhere else now. why only there?
crazy close good show
Does he not know he has counter?
Which char are you referring to?
It said best of 3 on the bar at first lol, had me confused
As a Mac main it is SO frustrating to see Peanut almost never use the counter. There's so many situations where he would've been okay, but instead was at a disadvantage
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tatakae peanut... tatakae!!
ちゃんと戦ってんじゃない
at 14:27 i literally paused the video and sighed like “nooo… this is the bad ending…”
Wtf ikes nair has no landing lag?
Good jab 😭
yo amazing vid
Would love to see Peanut use counter more! 😭 gg’s though!!!
peanut the online warrior
Peanut is good.. too bad he's not a boxer or he'd be better with lil Mac
Losing to Ike is kinda ick. Peanut may be the best lil Mac, but he's not the best potential lil Mac
It's called hollow bastion lol salty kh hater
Do you Kh fans have to always be salty smh bootleg Ridley fans
Ike players lol
Noooooooo the dream
lesgo ike
Ike wins. Ike always wins.
Peenot
Omfg Peanut I hope you will someday see this, learn to Down B bro. I’ve seen so many of your matches that you end up losing cause you don’t Down B 😬
nair masher 😂
This matchup is a clear example of the perfect imbalance in this game.
I only ever see peanut lose
Then watch the matches he wins
You're literally watching *winners semis*
And you only see him lose.
Ok.
Literally don't get how people praise Mac players they're just mashing 🤡
Lose to Mac > Click video with Peanut > Cries 🤡
Fax, little mac will press the start button and people will clip it and start a mac circlejerk how skill based he is and worship the mac as a god
@@user-zy2ts8kn7c You play mac at all?
@@lamie0237 Explain the skill based flowchart of fsmash ftilt upsmash dash attack ko punch and how you’re being held at gunpoint to play “the worst character in the game”
@@user-zy2ts8kn7c aight first of all it was just a question lol
second of all, no one is holding me at gunpoint lmao. It's a lot simpler than that
"Mac Bad. But Mac Cool. Play Mac even though he Bad :)"
And sure while his overall moveset might be pretty simple, it is equivalent to how simple it is for him to die also.