@@brunohanham3119 get an XTX new dude , the 4080 bus size is tragic because it’s a cut down card. Just get a good card from a board partner. Don’t buy an AMD reference model. The sapphire or the power color or find a review that matches your needs.
@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo yeah, there will obviously be people that will, just not me. I don't think the 5090 will be over 2k, however. 2k is still to much imo, but that is an opinion without any real info.
No company on planet earth "cares" about it's consumers, sure some hire entire departments who are in charge of making you think they do, they're happy to smile & give you a massage with their left hand if it means you'll be more comfortable with them reaching into your pockets with their right more often, this is why brand loyalty is a sickness.
nVidia is a $3 trillion company because they've realised that they can charge whatever they want. Ten years ago when they released the GTX980 their net profit margin was 12.8%. Today it's 56% - FIFTY SIX percent.
@@dirkk00815 lol don't be on a high horse, multi billion companies gave that money , not you. Gaming segment is like 10% right not their total revenue. Nvidia became this big by selling AI cards not gaming cards lmao.
@@darkfire3691 without consumer gaming sector buying over the last decade they wouldn't have been in the position to fund their research and development for the datacenter GPUs
Would be funny if they dropped the 5080 for 900 lol. They stopped producing 4080, and released a 4080 super for 1000 dollars because 4080 was not received well by customers. Makes little sense they sell 5080 for 1500.
Yep this happens every single generation. Happened with Ampere and Lovelace. The RTX 5090 will be c. $2000 and Jensen will say it 4x faster than a 4090. The idiots will then buy it at that price, or higher.
@@hugevibez Apparently it is going to be much faster than initially thought. The price to performance ratio will dictate its success. If they can get 4080 performance it would be great. Let’s go all AMD boys. I’m sick of the greed.
The 3080 had a 69% increase over the 2080 for $700 with silicon shortage. The 4080 had a 20% increase over the 3080 for $1100 without. They must laugh themselves to sleep
I think GPU buyers are among the rare groups that get mad from manufacturer releasing expensive products, lol. I just can't see any point in that. Imagine for example car buyers getting wound up if a car manufacturer releases a new expensive model 😂
Raytracing is so overrated to me everytime I see it , It's just an insignificant gimmick. I care more about natively great atmosphere, distinct artstyle and assets , more advanced variable physics , higher res textures and detail , smarter NPC AI , etc. Oldschool lighting methods even on PS2 and PS3 era games was just fine for me when well implemented by talented devs.
Now a good foreshadowing of GPU hardware requirements is Indiana Jones and the Great Circle. So look at benchmarks of this game for any GPU you are thinking of getting. The cost of the next generation is making my investment into a 7900XTX look better every day, given the fact that it more or less matches the 3090 in ray tracing. It carries a core need for hardware-based requirements. Thanks, Nvidia, for that the fact we see hardware based raytracing been a requiremnets. I do feel that we are still around two, maybe three, GPU generations off ray tracing being affordable and not trashing your FPS and not needing upscaling.
@@Ignisan_66 and which of the current NVIDIA cards will handle that? Even 4090 is struggling and requires DLSS&framegen trickery to get decent FPS in path tracing. Any game force feeding full raytracing will not have many buyers because average consumer does not have good enough hardware in many years.
I've been playing a lot of older games too, trying to catch up with all the steam sales I've had in the past. 3080 makes my older 2016 games look so good in 4k and high fps. Plus those games are cheaper too now. The only necessity I find I mistakenly got into sim racing and VR, so it's a pricing combo that requires high end gear. Unfortunately, AMD isn't that great with VR, many features like DFR are missing on it.
I would go as far to say it is a scam. dlss trickery acting like a card is so good when it aint and paying that much an not getting enough vram from start. Unless you buy a 5090. SCAM 100%.
When they launched raytracing and DLSS I was thinkin hopefully people will not start to measure cards by DLSS performance. It happened, I've argued in reddit with people who are certain DLSS looks better than native. Properly brainwashed.
They aren't actually buying them though. I am convinced they are taking a loss and artificially reducing supply spanning generations to create the market that they want to sell their GPUs in. By taking a loss, I mean they are taking a hit that they otherwise wouldn't. But this is the long game for them and because of lack of competition and the vast overwhelming share of the market share, they can create the market in their own image over multiple generations in any way they see fit. For instance, they can slowly increase prices over each generation in order to make it the new normal, and they can do the same with these meager performance gains and the ever expanding gap between low and high end GPUs up and down the stack. They have actually done this, even when the sales data looked atrocious in the consumer GPU field. We are seeing a regression in performance gains and pricing/value on these GPUs. They are stagnating the entire market. I don't think it's a valid argument to just chalk this up to supply and demand free market capitalism, because that's not what this is. There is nothing free market about Nvidia and their tactics. In any other industry, artificially restricting supply and performance would either hurt you, or it would be a industry wide effort to do so and it would be highly illegal.
They even started doing this when they changed what tier the 'flagship' model was and now they are trying to shove marketing PR down our throats about how everything 80 class and above is not for 'gaming'. It is for gaming, but they want to be the gatekeepers of what gamers want or need in their systems so that they can justify jacking up the prices and claiming it was never a gaming GPU to begin with. Meanwhile they are forcing you to pay more for absolute junk under the 80 class cards, that are getting really bad performance gains as you go down the stack. They want people to be forced to buy a new GPU every 3-4 years because the 10% gains gen on gen are giving gamers nothing substantial to hold on to. This market is going to get a lot worse. Mark my words.
Imagine Nvidia releasing all these leaks intentionally, only to Uno reverse and release the cards at a 10% increase over the 40-series MSRP, getting praises from the entire community and normalizing these insanely high prices these cards are already at.
Well yeah people will be begging to get rid of their E waste most of them have multiple PC with cards inside them. Or crypto miners getting rid of cards as well. Hmph
@ plus you don’t need a 5080 or 5090 when a 4080 plus and 4090 already doing just fine. Save your money and force them to lower prices instead of scamming. I didn’t mind paying for a 2080 but $1,500 is just insane for a 80 class. Plus 7900 xtx a good used card to get for a low price that will last awhile if you don’t mind light ray tracing for 4k
@@avatarion or just get a used 4090 on 50 drop for cheap price which already kills at 4k ray tracing max settings modern games and tell Nvidia enough . Them stocks show they don’t care about the consumer . You guys make me rich since I invest in them but still don’t make it right
Your prices seem very reasonable compared to the what we pay in the Netherlands. We pay 21% VAT. But we have really nice roads. (which we also pay extra tax for)
The 3080 was $700 with a silicon shortage. With inflation that is $853.30. Any more without a silicon shortage is a no go 🛑. AMD or Intel. Games are few anyway.
@chy.0190 yeah they saw what people were paying scalpers during the cripro boom. And thought. WELL HAVE SOME OF THAT!. Also the 4080 had a 20% increase over the 3080. But the 3080 had a 69% increase over the 2080. For me the 40 series didn't exist. If they try any of this with the 50 series. Same again. People will walk. They will lose market share. Intel and AMD have cards that will do a job. Games are few and far between anyway.
The idea of getting a 5080 for $850 is a joke. And it's not funny cause that "joke" goes either way because if Nvidia wasn't so greedy they could easily sell for less than that and still have money coming out their ears, but we all know the other side of the joke is that $850 will hardly get a 70-class this year.
I hate when leaks extrapolate the price by prebuilds or placeholders prices, probably only high ups on NVIDIA know and card makers only know a very wide range probably 1600-2500 and of course they are going to put the maximum to be safe and people forget that there are liquid cooled SKUs of the 4090 that are 2500$ plus, and these high prices Fs up expectations of people that hear 2400$, and it launches at 1999$ and people think it's a deal.
Exactly, I like to speculate on performance. But the price speculation is ridiculous. I’ve even seen recent “speculators” stating the 4090 was $2500 at launch. I guess they got their pricing information from scalpers on eBay. I bought the liquid cooled MSI Liquid Suprim X 4090 directly from MSI for $1700. The only card that pushed over $2000 was the ASUS Strix 4090. Any 4090 that was priced at $2500 was priced that way by scalpers and not Nvidia.
people claiming prices left and right is crazy when the card isnt even officially revealed yet + with past cards nvidia made up their prices right before the series reveal... so i dont get all this "look the prices just got leaked" things... bruh prices for the 50 series cards were leaked like 10 times in the past months, will they all be right aswell. dont think so. wait for the official reveal and be mad or find it acceptable then, not before. no logic behind anything else because you just stress yourself over theoretical prices that are not confirmed at this point.
Yeah TH-camrs are always doing the same scummy manipulative thing they complain about with Nvidia. Anything to get those clicks/engagement. At least Nvidia Is actually giving you something tangible at the end of the day.. all these channels do is lie and waste peoples time with clickbait.
I hate when pre launch listed prices make the headlines. Same thing happened near the 4090 launch and prices were insane, same goes for pre launch listings of the 7950x. These prices are just the stores trying to make a little more money by milking the desperate.
@@SuctessFake frame per second with higher input latency and ugly real time ray tracing that destroy performance for incompetence game developer who can't make lightning themselves
Well what a lot of people are forgetting with the Vex leak is that $1500 is with an AIB gpu (Asus). With Nvidia FE it would be $300 cheaper. So the price would be $1200.
Within 2 years time are we going to be in a position where most people can't even afford the 60 series?! When the higher end cards cost more than most peoples entire mid range PCs its time to stop buying them! But sadly you know they'll all be sold out within a few hours of release!!
My wife and I talked about it last night and we both don't see an issue. You don't need a prestige high end card to enjoy PC games. Everyone is so mad at the prices. The cards are aimed at people like my wife and I. We make well over 6 figures and we don't even have a mortage to pay. We have money and I don't care really. Do I need a 5090 for 2500? No. But will I feel the impact of spending 2500 on a GPU? Not really. It's just like people who buy luxury sports cars. Do they need them? No. But they are fun and they've got the money to buy them. Now why cry about it? I remember a time when I used to buy low end ATI cards. Back in the day I couldn't even run Max Payne because I couldn't afford a good GPU. I still enjoyed my early 20s playing lots of games. We have AMD and Intel and we have xx60/xx70 cards which can handle 1440p with RT on ultra or 4k without RT. So what is the issue? People are losing their shit because the best high end prestige GPU pricing won't target their income level. Wtf?
people are catching up with Nvidia bullshit, AMD already got 5/10 of the best selling GPU's in amazon, if the company decides to speak only the language of money, so should the consumer
RTX 5090 $2500 + 60% tariff = $4000 + $1000 AIB tax including tariff = $5000 Good to see the rest of the world getting better prices than the US for once.
You a misinformation 🤡🤡, Tariffs do not affect the USA, Trump implemented 20% Tariffs in 2017 to Canada, Mexico, China and the European Union, name a single product that went up in price, ill wait 🤡🤡, also don't even think to mention 2020 prices cause inflation is not the same, inflation is created by government overspending which devalued the dollar and inflates prices which was under pedo Joe Biden, go ahead I'll wait for your answer 🤡🤡
The 4080 had a msrp of $1200. What you showered there at "starting at $899" was the 4080 12GB, that was never launched after the shitstorm they caused with it. It was later launched slightly cut down as the 4070ti. So even if it will costs $1499, it won't be 50% more expensive than the terribly priced 4080.
It doesn't bother me, I've been using AMD cards for years and been quite happy. Obviously, I would love to buy an NVIDIA card, but they are just always way too expensive.
i used both and amd driver is much better but they fumble on hardware for 2 generation. amd and nvidia selling the same price here, overpriced as hell.
The 5080 won't cost 1500 plus it will be the same 1200 or maybe 1300 max! This leak is not true, and btw. NVIDIA is known to change it's mind on prices just one day before the reveal I think nobody knows the real prices so yeah...
The best part of the stupid pricing stratagy of Nvidia is the fact that their 30 series will be on the used market at much better prices as idiots sell their 30 series cards to buy a 50 series card.
My 3090 is telling me that I still don't need to worry about upgrading 🤔😃. Nividia couldn't sell the 4080 at 1200 for months and eventually had to cut prices starting with the 4080 Super. Only a fool would buy a 5080 for more money with basically the same specs (i.e. 16GB VRAM) For an MSRP of 1600 bucks 😂. That's not going to sell either.
@@fabricejaouen378 What are you talking about? VRAM is one of the many important aspects of a GPU. If your GPU doesn't have the required amount for a certain game, you are likely to experience FPS drops and micro stuttering. While you can lower the settings or play at a lower resolution, that doesn't always solve the problem, especially with new games like Stalker 2, Alan Wake, and Indiana Jones, for example, I don't see how you got AMD from this person's comment.
@@Warhorse469 Is there a law dictating every single GPU should run smoothly every single game ? no, there isnt, and if you pay less, your access to higher game is limited. it's perfectly normal
Yeah, I've got a hard cap of $1000 for the 5080 and $1500 for the 5090. If that's too low for them I don't care. I don't need to upgrade - It's their job to convince me it's time.
They were not obliged to, but they eventually managed to. Don't forget the extortion TSMC subjected all its clients to, including AMD and Nvidia, during the shortages caused by COVID.
even though gaming is only like 20% of their revenue now, the issue that their gaming GPUs can cause, is a reduction in their overall profit margins. So they have to price their GPUs in a way which doesn't lower their overall profit margins.
Prices are being restructured around the assumption that most buyers will use buy now pay later, essentially the interest is being baked into the base price. Also the high price will probably kill scalping as an idea on these.
Nvidia probably leaks these insane prices so that the crazy prices they'll actually change looks more palatable. Leaking $2500 to $3000 will make a $2200 card seem not so bad on launch day.
The most important thing to keep in mind is that the final pricing probably hasn't even been determined yet. We all know that Nvidia has a reputation for finalizing pricing at the last minute and any published prices we see are almost certainly placeholders, even if Paul didn't have his sources telling him that's the case.
If they make the card powerful with 32GB, I will order it on the first day even if it is $2k. Gaming is still one of the cheapest hobbies you can have. Have you looked at money spent in cars, motorcycles, boats, home theaters, golfing, traveling, fishing, hunting, even cycling and camping? Things cost money and high end things usually cost a lot more. People usually are not upset about the high end prices of other things as much.
No more panic, just indifference... Also, it is never a good idea to buy the last nVidia generation since they always feature-lock their products, unlike AMD.
Even at the "low" end of these estimates with the 5080 at $1200 and the 5090 at $2300 NVIDIA is out of line and out of touch. With the Lossless Scaling app on Steam doing nearly as good a job as DLSS frame generation these new cards are even more overpriced. If any of these prices turn out to be true I hope reviewers promote the Lossless Scaling app and let the 50 series rot on the shelves.
Why are you doing these videos? Make no mistake these cards will be expensive even more than their direct predecessors. By how much we will see but definitely more expensive.
6:17 nothing particular in context. 50 series graphics cards final release time CES 2025 meeting Jan 7 2025 2015 Jan RTX5090 >=CN￥18999 RTX5080 >=CN￥9999 2025 Feb RTX 5070ti, RTX5070 unknown 2025 Mar RTX5060 unknown CNY prices are usually 13% above their USD counterparts because they are VAT inclusive. However it's probably just his personal guess.
I do not care what the 5090 costs, but the performance gap between the 5090 and every other GPU down the stack is disgusting at any price point. And the increase in either prices or the drop in performance gains/hardware, every generation on all entry and mid range cards is even worse.
It will take two years from now for the 4080 Super to drop to $500 and I think they will keep the 4090 prices high even for refurbished as nothing else can compete with it.
@@xlr555usa Fair point. I'd probably go for the super at 800e which would be a decent deal with gimped EU prices. But that's still a tough pill to swallow.
@@4evahodlingdoge226Still only 16gb which is basically the lower limit for any 4k player like me. Don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t be surprised if nVidia wants to have $1500 for the 5080 but I wouldn’t buy a 16gb card for that money and I’m pretty sure there are many 4k gamers who think the same way. Too much money for a card that probably will run out of vram frequently in the near future.
You need to factor the Australian tech tax, on launch an asus strix oc 4090 was around 3800 dollarydoos at the time if I recall correctly it was an additional 800-900 usd
@@504Trey Not hating, just pure speculation. People already thought charging 1k+ for 4080 was too much, yet NVIDIA did and people kept buying. Why in hell would they not raise it further?!
Lol. What a moronic take. If you account for inflation alone, that price would now be 1900 in today's time. But beyond inflation, the standard product price hikes would put it 2k plus and you can most certainly build a 4080S PC today at around 2k price.
@jal.ajeera Well genius, was I talking about the 4080S? Or even the 50 series version? No. The 5090... I am well aware of inflation and economic activities.
Hey, i can confirm that the listing on the australian system is REAL. I used to work there and have friends who showed me the listing in question a day before this went live on Vex's channel. But this doesnt mean its accurate: It could be a temporary listing, it could be exclusively marked up for australia, or the retailer is just overcharging.
Panic about a 5080 or 90? I'd never buy one in the first place why do I care? For the people who would buy one I HOPE they're practicing financial responsibility. So, the 4090 was often found for around $2000 regardless of that price listed by Nvidia unless you could actually buy the Nvidia branded GPU. It seems like a lot, but there are millions of households around the world where that's nothing to them. In the US, 25% of households could buy that no problem, that's who Nvidia is targeting globally. They're not targeting the lower 50% of the households even in wealthy counties. They don't need to sell that many. They make gobs of money as a company. Nvidia's top end gaming GPUs are EXACTLY what their CEO said, made for doing work even though they're outstanding gaming GPUs, and Nvidia has said that's going to be the 5080 and above. That doesn't mean they don't want gamers to buy it, what they mean is they've priced it out of the realm of the lower 50 - 60% of gamers, so retailers should target them as work devices. IF the 5090 hits a target of more than 25% the performance of a 4090, AND because it's a luxury or work product even though it doesn't have the same type of product support as a WS GPU, it's going to cost a lot. Nvidia has no reason to price it under $2000 which means on the street it's going to be about $2300 - $2500. If they EVER get competition at this level of performance maybe they'll bring the price down a little but since they dominate the market, it would only be a little. I have a 6950 XT that I paid $600 new for it. It's a perfectly fine 2K GPU and I don't need to step up to 4K. Now, I'll replace it even paying up to $700 USD IF it's a lot better than the 6950 XT in AI processing for AI upscaling along with having excellent RT performance allowing the GPU to still run 2K gaming with RT. If not I can run that 6950 XT for the next 4 - 5 years and simply skip the games where the 6950 XT would struggle to stay above 60 fps min with slightly scaled down quality settings, and that's OK, I don't have to play THAT game, I'm happy playing games I haven't played before which means I'm open to a game library of more than 100 games as I've never been a heavy gamer. So, that's the dealeo. WHEN I get to the point of wanting to buy a 65" 4K OLED then I may want to move to 4K gaming, but I'm not going to pay more than $850 for a 4K GPU AND it would have to run RT at 4K and give good performance. If AMD or Nvidia don't want to get to that point, I'll stick with 2K gaming. It's not like any of this is that important for my existence. It's fun, but it's fun on a 1080p or 2K monitor so......................
These types of rumors shouldn't be propagated! They just make people believe that it's going to be like this and Nvidia feels comfortable actually charging those prices later.
Nvidia: "What's the profit margins on the Data Center chip vs the Consumer chip".. "Well, boss, it's 4000% on the Data center part, and 100% on the Consumer card, after increasing the Consumer card's price by 90%"... "OK, let's do that." It's not hard to figure out. Why would you sell the same chip for waaaay less? They should be calling the 5080 the 5090, and putting more ram on it, and selling the 5090 as a Titan card. People wouldn't freak out as much.
I personally see no reason why nvidia wouldn't just charge these obscene prices, over and over again people pretend to be outraged by the new pricing, while the cards themselves sell out like hotcakes, theres no reason to believe they will not try to push the boundaries when every time they did so they have gotten rewarded. not panic, more like realistic expectations based on prior experiences regarding nvidia in recent generations
My biggest problem is not being able to get a 5080 at MSRP. It's the scalpers marking them up. I'm still on my 3070ti ready to upgrade. See what happens. I wish they did verified preorders for single cards.
What scalper would be dumb enough to buy something at an untenable price only to add their own margins to a previously untenable price? That would be downright foolhardy.
It's odd to have a video dedicated to the leaced prices on hardware that isn't being marketed to the consumer class to begin with, but having that video telling the consumer class to "remain calm" about the prices of hardware that isn't being marketed to us is an additional oddity. If the cards were for us, you can rest assured that those prices would be at least 2/3 lower than rumors suggest.
When the head of Nvidia was asked about pricing he was quoted at saying that the 5080 and 5090s were made for professional use and the 5070s and down were being built for gaming so Im thinking its going to be like the days of the Titan cards being outrageously priced for the time they came out and were aimed at the professionals. So I can see some ridiculas prices from them but will wait and see because I dont hold a lot of value these days in leaked info
I paid $900 for a 6800xt during the covid/mining boom.Yeah, I did it. I sold it for $400 not too long ago. Is what it is but spending $2000+ on a GPU during normal times is ludicrous.
The more we speculate & worry about them being 3K the more comfortable Nvidia will feel pricing them at 2K and making us think we're getting a deal, you don't need a tinfoil hat to work out Nvidia may have even started this pricing rumour themselves for this very reason
I hope this pricing is accurate. Something has got to discourage people from buying at such inflated prices. I’d love to see them price cards high enough that finally *most* people don’t buy them.
nVidia must be having some major yield issues. The insane pricing might be an attempt to keep the demand down far enough for nVidia to meet it, while selling the lower end models that are yielding better while using the flagship models to maintain the prestige lead. And unfortunately, if Battlemage and the Radeon 9700 XTX are only competitive with the 4080, performance wise nVidia will have a huge lead that will attract a lot of people... until the tariffs spike them, anyway.
Recently got a 7900xt so I will worry or not about GPU prices of the 60 series. I heard nothing about how good the upcoming cards are going to be, Like we are 2 weeks out and more of the same seems to be a best guess of whats coming, no massive price/performance jumps no new must have tech just 5s (and 9s wtf) on boxes and I guess a standard ~30% generational imporvements so a current gen card on dicount just seemed to be the only move
I would pay 1900 to 2 grand for the new 5090 but I won't go beyond that. If Nvidia is going to price that garbage I hope scalpers don't pay and the company screws itself
No panic, just don't buy it. Simple solution.
I might just get a secondhand 4080 or 4070ti
Correct! So correct! Or just buy used 'last gen' its cheaper (usually).
Idk who'd even be crazy enough to get a 90 gpu
@@brunohanham3119 Im planning on a 4090 when these come out for awhile..Whats the 5090 for anyways? 8k gaming?
@@brunohanham3119 get an XTX new dude , the 4080 bus size is tragic because it’s a cut down card. Just get a good card from a board partner. Don’t buy an AMD reference model. The sapphire or the power color or find a review that matches your needs.
Not going to panic, I'll just let them rot on the shelves. 😂
Right 😂
@anthonybaker5199 Well, I will, but others won't.
Ai streamers will be snapping them up
@UmmerFarooq-wx4yo yeah, there will obviously be people that will, just not me. I don't think the 5090 will be over 2k, however. 2k is still to much imo, but that is an opinion without any real info.
@@Neeb1337 not really, very low percentage of people will buy, most of the AI market will buy it.
Nvidia doesn’t care about gamers. Just industry sales
No company on planet earth "cares" about it's consumers, sure some hire entire departments who are in charge of making you think they do, they're happy to smile & give you a massage with their left hand if it means you'll be more comfortable with them reaching into your pockets with their right more often, this is why brand loyalty is a sickness.
But they make the best graphics cards so I'm buying one.
Welcome to capitalism! That's what is always been about!
@@AngelOfDeath420same here. This new Pimax Crystal is going to need every pixel the 5090 can push.
@@AngelOfDeath420
I am targeting 5070Ti(November or December 2025).
You?
nVidia is a $3 trillion company because they've realised that they can charge whatever they want. Ten years ago when they released the GTX980 their net profit margin was 12.8%. Today it's 56% - FIFTY SIX percent.
13% is too little for technology sector. Phones usually have 60-70% margin.
They can only do it because their buyers are lazy!
We all gave them willingly our money to this $3 trillion.
@@dirkk00815 lol don't be on a high horse, multi billion companies gave that money , not you. Gaming segment is like 10% right not their total revenue. Nvidia became this big by selling AI cards not gaming cards lmao.
@@darkfire3691 without consumer gaming sector buying over the last decade they wouldn't have been in the position to fund their research and development for the datacenter GPUs
Nvidia "leaking" very high prices in order to be able to sell the last RTX 40 cards stock 😂😂😂
agree. and to make the $1899 price on the 5090 seem like a bargain since its not the "leaked" $2500
Wouldn't be surprised. Or to make 1800 usd seem like a good deal in comparison. 🤣🤣
Would be funny if they dropped the 5080 for 900 lol. They stopped producing 4080, and released a 4080 super for 1000 dollars because 4080 was not received well by customers. Makes little sense they sell 5080 for 1500.
Remaining cards? There are almost no 4080/4080 Super cards left on the market.
Yep this happens every single generation. Happened with Ampere and Lovelace. The RTX 5090 will be c. $2000 and Jensen will say it 4x faster than a 4090. The idiots will then buy it at that price, or higher.
I'm not going to panic, but I am going to buy AMD again!
...pls let it have GOOD hardware upscaling...
But not to the point that Fucking AI likes it too much!
that makes 2 of us.
3 of us
Only if the top tier is an upgrade for my 3080 (since it's aiming to be mid-range) and they've sorted out upscaling
@@hugevibez Apparently it is going to be much faster than initially thought. The price to performance ratio will dictate its success. If they can get 4080 performance it would be great. Let’s go all AMD boys. I’m sick of the greed.
So both kidneys instead of one then?
One of the kidneys and both brain cells.
Calm down!
Same old jokes
And a testicle
you got a sister to hoe out?
The 3080 had a 69% increase over the 2080 for $700 with silicon shortage. The 4080 had a 20% increase over the 3080 for $1100 without. They must laugh themselves to sleep
I'm okay with it. I got a used RTX 3080 10GB for $260.
3080 to 4080 us more like 50% increase in performance (4k at least)
wtf? I paid $1500 for my Gigabyte 2080 TI so I have no idea wtf you are talking about! Don't like it don't buy it.
@AngelOfDeath420 How many AAA games came out between 2018 and 2020🤔. Cos I paid $700 for a 3080 that is 69% faster.
I think GPU buyers are among the rare groups that get mad from manufacturer releasing expensive products, lol. I just can't see any point in that. Imagine for example car buyers getting wound up if a car manufacturer releases a new expensive model 😂
I think i will hold on and pay $6000 for a 6090
At this point this could be real
Im happy with my 7900xtx not too worried about ray tracing
Raytracing is so overrated to me everytime I see it , It's just an insignificant gimmick. I care more about natively great atmosphere, distinct artstyle and assets , more advanced variable physics , higher res textures and detail , smarter NPC AI , etc. Oldschool lighting methods even on PS2 and PS3 era games was just fine for me when well implemented by talented devs.
7900XTX is a very tempting card.
Now a good foreshadowing of GPU hardware requirements is Indiana Jones and the Great Circle. So look at benchmarks of this game for any GPU you are thinking of getting.
The cost of the next generation is making my investment into a 7900XTX look better every day, given the fact that it more or less matches the 3090 in ray tracing. It carries a core need for hardware-based requirements. Thanks, Nvidia, for that the fact we see hardware based raytracing been a requiremnets. I do feel that we are still around two, maybe three, GPU generations off ray tracing being affordable and not trashing your FPS and not needing upscaling.
You will regret it when newer games come out that will have mandatory full ray tracing. Cry all you want but RT is the future of in game lighting.
@@Ignisan_66 and which of the current NVIDIA cards will handle that? Even 4090 is struggling and requires DLSS&framegen trickery to get decent FPS in path tracing. Any game force feeding full raytracing will not have many buyers because average consumer does not have good enough hardware in many years.
I feel like nvidia leaks these crazy prices like 2500$, so then when they release it dor 2000, everyone will be stoked
Very possible
@@kwakes212 you forgot about the 60% tariff on top of that.
It will cost $2299.
It’s going to be 3200 marl my words and there will be fuck all for inventory
2000 is already a big increase in price from the 4090
Panic? These cards are a luxury, not a necessity. Most of us gamers are still on much older gpus
I've been playing a lot of older games too, trying to catch up with all the steam sales I've had in the past. 3080 makes my older 2016 games look so good in 4k and high fps. Plus those games are cheaper too now. The only necessity I find I mistakenly got into sim racing and VR, so it's a pricing combo that requires high end gear. Unfortunately, AMD isn't that great with VR, many features like DFR are missing on it.
1080 GTx gang and its still fine
the fact that these cards rely so heavily on trickery like dlss and frame generstion etc, has killed their value...it feels like a scam
I would go as far to say it is a scam. dlss trickery acting like a card is so good when it aint and paying that much an not getting enough vram from start. Unless you buy a 5090. SCAM 100%.
this is only the kind of think you would say if you've never actually used DLSS.
@@3lanksp_ce sure I use it when I play games and make games.. you're missing the point entierly.. it's a misrepsententation of the performance
When they launched raytracing and DLSS I was thinkin hopefully people will not start to measure cards by DLSS performance. It happened, I've argued in reddit with people who are certain DLSS looks better than native. Properly brainwashed.
4090 had an msrp of 1600, yet it's selling for way above 2k, closer to 2.5k at this point.
I had no problem getting a 4090 two years ago for MSRP. People do not want to put in the effort to do anything these days.
@TracksideViews Two years ago was.... exactly two years ago. 🤦
in white add another $1000.00
@@ALph4cro yup. People think these things are not going to sell over MSRP?
Im out
It doesn't matter to me i aint buying shit
the end of the day they will cost more because idiots keep paying it so you can't blame Ngreeder
They aren't actually buying them though. I am convinced they are taking a loss and artificially reducing supply spanning generations to create the market that they want to sell their GPUs in. By taking a loss, I mean they are taking a hit that they otherwise wouldn't. But this is the long game for them and because of lack of competition and the vast overwhelming share of the market share, they can create the market in their own image over multiple generations in any way they see fit. For instance, they can slowly increase prices over each generation in order to make it the new normal, and they can do the same with these meager performance gains and the ever expanding gap between low and high end GPUs up and down the stack. They have actually done this, even when the sales data looked atrocious in the consumer GPU field. We are seeing a regression in performance gains and pricing/value on these GPUs. They are stagnating the entire market. I don't think it's a valid argument to just chalk this up to supply and demand free market capitalism, because that's not what this is. There is nothing free market about Nvidia and their tactics. In any other industry, artificially restricting supply and performance would either hurt you, or it would be a industry wide effort to do so and it would be highly illegal.
They even started doing this when they changed what tier the 'flagship' model was and now they are trying to shove marketing PR down our throats about how everything 80 class and above is not for 'gaming'. It is for gaming, but they want to be the gatekeepers of what gamers want or need in their systems so that they can justify jacking up the prices and claiming it was never a gaming GPU to begin with. Meanwhile they are forcing you to pay more for absolute junk under the 80 class cards, that are getting really bad performance gains as you go down the stack. They want people to be forced to buy a new GPU every 3-4 years because the 10% gains gen on gen are giving gamers nothing substantial to hold on to. This market is going to get a lot worse. Mark my words.
Yup. Companies will do what the market will bear
5090 or a second hand car?
Honda Civic looking good 💯
second hand car.
The car holds value longer, I bet.
@@ikku4321nope. Buy 5090 before it sells out and resell for 4000$ and boom you buy a car and still have money leftover
Imagine Nvidia releasing all these leaks intentionally, only to Uno reverse and release the cards at a 10% increase over the 40-series MSRP, getting praises from the entire community and normalizing these insanely high prices these cards are already at.
vote with your wallet dont buy them. just buy previous cards like a used 4090 or 4080 super when the 50 comes out
Well yeah people will be begging to get rid of their E waste most of them have multiple PC with cards inside them. Or crypto miners getting rid of cards as well. Hmph
@ plus you don’t need a 5080 or 5090 when a 4080 plus and 4090 already doing just fine. Save your money and force them to lower prices instead of scamming. I didn’t mind paying for a 2080 but $1,500 is just insane for a 80 class. Plus 7900 xtx a good used card to get for a low price that will last awhile if you don’t mind light ray tracing for 4k
If the 5080 is really that bad in terms of price to performance, then I'm going to have to get an emergency 5070 Ti, which won't be optimal at 4K.
@@avatarion or just get a used 4090 on 50 drop for cheap price which already kills at 4k ray tracing max settings modern games and tell Nvidia enough . Them stocks show they don’t care about the consumer . You guys make me rich since I invest in them but still don’t make it right
Don't take Australian prices into consideration. We get royally shafted, literally "down under".
you punny
Your prices seem very reasonable compared to the what we pay in the Netherlands. We pay 21% VAT. But we have really nice roads. (which we also pay extra tax for)
@ Our prices are hiked up by unscrupulous retailers not tax.
The 3080 was $700 with a silicon shortage. With inflation that is $853.30. Any more without a silicon shortage is a no go 🛑. AMD or Intel. Games are few anyway.
with inflation 👍😂👍
@BlackJesus8463 $700 from 2020 is $853.30 in 2024. I know that is rediculus. But it's a matter of fact.
well 4080 was 1200, then it was badly received so they released it again as "4080 super" for 1000. I reckon it will be 1000 again, or 1100.
@chy.0190 yeah they saw what people were paying scalpers during the cripro boom. And thought. WELL HAVE SOME OF THAT!. Also the 4080 had a 20% increase over the 3080. But the 3080 had a 69% increase over the 2080. For me the 40 series didn't exist. If they try any of this with the 50 series. Same again. People will walk. They will lose market share. Intel and AMD have cards that will do a job. Games are few and far between anyway.
The idea of getting a 5080 for $850 is a joke. And it's not funny cause that "joke" goes either way because if Nvidia wasn't so greedy they could easily sell for less than that and still have money coming out their ears, but we all know the other side of the joke is that $850 will hardly get a 70-class this year.
I hate when leaks extrapolate the price by prebuilds or placeholders prices, probably only high ups on NVIDIA know and card makers only know a very wide range probably 1600-2500 and of course they are going to put the maximum to be safe and people forget that there are liquid cooled SKUs of the 4090 that are 2500$ plus, and these high prices Fs up expectations of people that hear 2400$, and it launches at 1999$ and people think it's a deal.
Exactly, I like to speculate on performance. But the price speculation is ridiculous. I’ve even seen recent “speculators” stating the 4090 was $2500 at launch. I guess they got their pricing information from scalpers on eBay. I bought the liquid cooled MSI Liquid Suprim X 4090 directly from MSI for $1700. The only card that pushed over $2000 was the ASUS Strix 4090. Any 4090 that was priced at $2500 was priced that way by scalpers and not Nvidia.
people claiming prices left and right is crazy when the card isnt even officially revealed yet + with past cards nvidia made up their prices right before the series reveal... so i dont get all this "look the prices just got leaked" things... bruh prices for the 50 series cards were leaked like 10 times in the past months, will they all be right aswell. dont think so. wait for the official reveal and be mad or find it acceptable then, not before. no logic behind anything else because you just stress yourself over theoretical prices that are not confirmed at this point.
Yeah TH-camrs are always doing the same scummy manipulative thing they complain about with Nvidia. Anything to get those clicks/engagement. At least Nvidia Is actually giving you something tangible at the end of the day.. all these channels do is lie and waste peoples time with clickbait.
I hate when pre launch listed prices make the headlines. Same thing happened near the 4090 launch and prices were insane, same goes for pre launch listings of the 7950x. These prices are just the stores trying to make a little more money by milking the desperate.
@@TheUltraMinebox agreed, still waiting for the 800W 4090 btw. crazy.
Nvidia is lame as hell 3k for a gpu wtf lol we are a AI company 😂
And by the magic of AI (DLSS) you will be able to play all the unoptimized UE 5 Lumen games with 60 fps+ on a RTX 5090 in 4K res.
@@SuctessFake frame per second with higher input latency and ugly real time ray tracing that destroy performance for incompetence game developer who can't make lightning themselves
Well what a lot of people are forgetting with the Vex leak is that $1500 is with an AIB gpu (Asus). With Nvidia FE it would be $300 cheaper. So the price would be $1200.
Within 2 years time are we going to be in a position where most people can't even afford the 60 series?! When the higher end cards cost more than most peoples entire mid range PCs its time to stop buying them! But sadly you know they'll all be sold out within a few hours of release!!
My wife and I talked about it last night and we both don't see an issue. You don't need a prestige high end card to enjoy PC games. Everyone is so mad at the prices. The cards are aimed at people like my wife and I. We make well over 6 figures and we don't even have a mortage to pay. We have money and I don't care really. Do I need a 5090 for 2500? No. But will I feel the impact of spending 2500 on a GPU? Not really. It's just like people who buy luxury sports cars. Do they need them? No. But they are fun and they've got the money to buy them. Now why cry about it? I remember a time when I used to buy low end ATI cards. Back in the day I couldn't even run Max Payne because I couldn't afford a good GPU. I still enjoyed my early 20s playing lots of games. We have AMD and Intel and we have xx60/xx70 cards which can handle 1440p with RT on ultra or 4k without RT. So what is the issue? People are losing their shit because the best high end prestige GPU pricing won't target their income level. Wtf?
@@chrisking6695 I make 7 figures what is your point?
@@chrisking6695having the money is no excuse to overpay
@@meranmeran1045 He is rich so he wants to "own the plebs" on the internet. Standard narcissistic behavior of rich people.
@@chrisking6695no one’s crying but someone is showing off :)
Rtx 5080, which feels more like a 5070 will be $1,200-$1,300
When has a 70 series gpu given you 120-150 fps in 4k on average?
@@4evahodlingdoge226 since when 4k has become a mainstream for gaming? I have 4090 and still consider 1440p as a sweet spot.
native? 😂@@4evahodlingdoge226
@@banaris28 How is that relevant? If you have a 4080 or even 4090 your beyond mainstream already.
what does that mean 80 series card alr gets 100 fps on 4k 5080 should get like 130-160 70 class is not 4k 😭
Went Team Red a month ago and seeing this going back will not be an option. Enough is enough.
people are catching up with Nvidia bullshit, AMD already got 5/10 of the best selling GPU's in amazon, if the company decides to speak only the language of money, so should the consumer
RTX 5090 $2500 + 60% tariff = $4000 + $1000 AIB tax including tariff = $5000
Good to see the rest of the world getting better prices than the US for once.
Yep I'm out
Let them enjoy the trump tax 🤡
Tariff will trickle also in Europe I'm afraid, even just for speculation.
@@pixel1145 Not for the same wide variety of products/industries that Trumpskin is said to be targeting.
You a misinformation 🤡🤡, Tariffs do not affect the USA, Trump implemented 20% Tariffs in 2017 to Canada, Mexico, China and the European Union, name a single product that went up in price, ill wait 🤡🤡, also don't even think to mention 2020 prices cause inflation is not the same, inflation is created by government overspending which devalued the dollar and inflates prices which was under pedo Joe Biden, go ahead I'll wait for your answer 🤡🤡
I'm not going to panic, I switched to Radeon since 2016 and was the best decision of my PC life
The 4080 had a msrp of $1200. What you showered there at "starting at $899" was the 4080 12GB, that was never launched after the shitstorm they caused with it. It was later launched slightly cut down as the 4070ti. So even if it will costs $1499, it won't be 50% more expensive than the terribly priced 4080.
It doesn't bother me, I've been using AMD cards for years and been quite happy. Obviously, I would love to buy an NVIDIA card, but they are just always way too expensive.
i used both and amd driver is much better but they fumble on hardware for 2 generation. amd and nvidia selling the same price here, overpriced as hell.
The 5080 won't cost 1500 plus it will be the same 1200 or maybe 1300 max! This leak is not true, and btw. NVIDIA is known to change it's mind on prices just one day before the reveal I think nobody knows the real prices so yeah...
The best part of the stupid pricing stratagy of Nvidia is the fact that their 30 series will be on the used market at much better prices as idiots sell their 30 series cards to buy a 50 series card.
My 3090 is telling me that I still don't need to worry about upgrading 🤔😃. Nividia couldn't sell the 4080 at 1200 for months and eventually had to cut prices starting with the 4080 Super. Only a fool would buy a 5080 for more money with basically the same specs (i.e. 16GB VRAM) For an MSRP of 1600 bucks 😂. That's not going to sell either.
as if the amount of VRAM was the only spec of a GPU... err well it's the only argument AMD has , sorry, so get back to your AMD love, dude.
@@fabricejaouen378 What are you talking about? VRAM is one of the many important aspects of a GPU. If your GPU doesn't have the required amount for a certain game, you are likely to experience FPS drops and micro stuttering. While you can lower the settings or play at a lower resolution, that doesn't always solve the problem, especially with new games like Stalker 2, Alan Wake, and Indiana Jones, for example, I don't see how you got AMD from this person's comment.
@@Warhorse469 Is there a law dictating every single GPU should run smoothly every single game ? no, there isnt, and if you pay less, your access to higher game is limited. it's perfectly normal
Yeah, I've got a hard cap of $1000 for the 5080 and $1500 for the 5090. If that's too low for them I don't care. I don't need to upgrade - It's their job to convince me it's time.
They were not obliged to, but they eventually managed to. Don't forget the extortion TSMC subjected all its clients to, including AMD and Nvidia, during the shortages caused by COVID.
logic: the wafers can make 10x if they don't end up in consumer GPUs
even though gaming is only like 20% of their revenue now, the issue that their gaming GPUs can cause, is a reduction in their overall profit margins. So they have to price their GPUs in a way which doesn't lower their overall profit margins.
These are very high prices for consumer GPUs, but the flip side is that Nvidia can sell these to industry for way more money.
The only good thing is it will keep used 4090/4080 used prices high for those selling their used one
These prices are not going to convert any console gamers to PC... even with a $700 PS5 Pro.
Prices are being restructured around the assumption that most buyers will use buy now pay later, essentially the interest is being baked into the base price. Also the high price will probably kill scalping as an idea on these.
Or they can make 5090 cheaper than the 4090, that will kill the scalpers too😂
Nvidia probably leaks these insane prices so that the crazy prices they'll actually change looks more palatable. Leaking $2500 to $3000 will make a $2200 card seem not so bad on launch day.
It's basically like decoy effect.
The most important thing to keep in mind is that the final pricing probably hasn't even been determined yet. We all know that Nvidia has a reputation for finalizing pricing at the last minute and any published prices we see are almost certainly placeholders, even if Paul didn't have his sources telling him that's the case.
Cases are gonna melt.
Not remotely panicking. I stopped giving Nvidia my money over two generations ago.
$3000 is a nope for me.
Correct that's a nice get away trip for two weeks
Even 2000$ is a nope
If they make the card powerful with 32GB, I will order it on the first day even if it is $2k. Gaming is still one of the cheapest hobbies you can have. Have you looked at money spent in cars, motorcycles, boats, home theaters, golfing, traveling, fishing, hunting, even cycling and camping? Things cost money and high end things usually cost a lot more. People usually are not upset about the high end prices of other things as much.
No more panic, just indifference... Also, it is never a good idea to buy the last nVidia generation since they always feature-lock their products, unlike AMD.
Anything under $2700, and the 5090 will be scalped so hard that you have to be lucky to get one at MSRP.
Didn't scalpers have a hard time reselling their cards from the previous releases?
Even at the "low" end of these estimates with the 5080 at $1200 and the 5090 at $2300 NVIDIA is out of line and out of touch. With the Lossless Scaling app on Steam doing nearly as good a job as DLSS frame generation these new cards are even more overpriced. If any of these prices turn out to be true I hope reviewers promote the Lossless Scaling app and let the 50 series rot on the shelves.
don't panic: you will not be able to pay any of these cards anyway.
Well ngreedia DID SAY... that the 80 and 90 cards were for "professionals"... wouldn't be surprised...
Why are you doing these videos? Make no mistake these cards will be expensive even more than their direct predecessors. By how much we will see but definitely more expensive.
It’s looking like your “1800” prediction was way off
Yeah I think the 5090 will have a $2,000 MSRP.
6:17 nothing particular in context.
50 series graphics cards final release time
CES 2025 meeting Jan 7 2025
2015 Jan
RTX5090 >=CN￥18999
RTX5080 >=CN￥9999
2025 Feb
RTX 5070ti, RTX5070 unknown
2025 Mar
RTX5060 unknown
CNY prices are usually 13% above their USD counterparts because they are VAT inclusive. However it's probably just his personal guess.
Sticking with my 4090 until in becomes a 1080p card... 😂😂😂
it is already a 1080p card, on Ark survival ascended
I suspect you will be waiting for about 8 to 10 years until that happens.
@@freedomoffgrid82 not with these ue5 games he won't
I can't wait to upgrade my 4080 Super to a 5090 on day 1 release 😎
I do not care what the 5090 costs, but the performance gap between the 5090 and every other GPU down the stack is disgusting at any price point. And the increase in either prices or the drop in performance gains/hardware, every generation on all entry and mid range cards is even worse.
I'm not interested in buying at this point going forward. I'm sitting on my RTX 4090.
No panicking, just wait how the amds work out and if not, just get a 4080 super used for half the price at most
It will take two years from now for the 4080 Super to drop to $500 and I think they will keep the 4090 prices high even for refurbished as nothing else can compete with it.
@@xlr555usa Fair point. I'd probably go for the super at 800e which would be a decent deal with gimped EU prices. But that's still a tough pill to swallow.
I'm probably in for a 5090 at $2k. Hello, I'm Lexustech48 and I have a Microsoft Flight Simulator @4k ultra settings addiction...
There is NO WAY they go above 1200 for the 5080
If it's 50% faster than the 4080 you never know.
@@4evahodlingdoge226 It won't.
@@4evahodlingdoge226Still only 16gb which is basically the lower limit for any 4k player like me. Don’t get me wrong I wouldn’t be surprised if nVidia wants to have $1500 for the 5080 but I wouldn’t buy a 16gb card for that money and I’m pretty sure there are many 4k gamers who think the same way. Too much money for a card that probably will run out of vram frequently in the near future.
Wanna bet they are money hungry.
@@justhomas83 lol I don’t doubt that but I’d rather wait another year before giving them $1500+ for a 16gb card 🤣
You need to factor the Australian tech tax, on launch an asus strix oc 4090 was around 3800 dollarydoos at the time if I recall correctly it was an additional 800-900 usd
I dont panic. Im staying on my 4090 for 1200$ price
You got a 4090 for $1200? How'd you score that? Did you buy a ski mask and a crow bar for $1200?
I'll sell you another 4090 for $1200 if you want it
Yeah Zotac RTX 4090 oc 1300.
i bought my 4080 for 850dollars second hand with box and all
@@badpuppy3 ill take it if you live in sweden xD
No panic i just dont care anymore about nvidia.
15 min waste of time. just milking the yt clicks
Stop hating
@@504Trey Not hating, just pure speculation. People already thought charging 1k+ for 4080 was too much, yet NVIDIA did and people kept buying. Why in hell would they not raise it further?!
I really despise how all these channels constantly clickbait.
@Necemous
Where did I say anything about prices? 🤔💀
@@fawkkyutuu8851 And yet you keeping watching them AND commenting.
99% of Nvidia sales don't even come from gamers unlike team red who can only sell to budget gamers.
7yrs ago you could build a top tier pc for $1500. Now ngreedia might charge double that, just for one component... smh lol
Lol. What a moronic take. If you account for inflation alone, that price would now be 1900 in today's time. But beyond inflation, the standard product price hikes would put it 2k plus and you can most certainly build a 4080S PC today at around 2k price.
@jal.ajeera Well genius, was I talking about the 4080S? Or even the 50 series version? No. The 5090... I am well aware of inflation and economic activities.
@@mcduvall2000 Nice job editing the original comment.
@jal.ajeera wtf r u talking about? I didn't edit anything... You're just claiming I did so you don't look like a tard lol
RTX 5090 is not made exclusively for gamers, if you don’t perform heavy workloads, you don’t need an RTX 5090.
No one needs a 5090. It’s still nice to have
Not even gonna play it...could you guys milk this event anymore? Jesus Christ...There's other shit happening out there...
TH-cam clickbaiters are worse than Nvidia.
@@fawkkyutuu8851 Nothing is worse than Nvidia...
Then stop watching and go do something else? See how easy that was.
Hey, i can confirm that the listing on the australian system is REAL. I used to work there and have friends who showed me the listing in question a day before this went live on Vex's channel.
But this doesnt mean its accurate:
It could be a temporary listing, it could be exclusively marked up for australia, or the retailer is just overcharging.
If you can afford $1600 for a gpu you can afford $3k, most people buy a gpu for $300-500.
I don’t think that’s how it works just because you can afford something doesn’t mean you can afford something else that’s basically twice the price
Absolutely not true. By your logic no one would ever buy 80 series cards and only buy 90 series
Absolutely true.
Not how money works. A lot of people around the world have decent money to splash but not virtually unlimited where an extra 1.5k doesn't matter
Sure, if that's the case all the people would've just bought a 4090 instead of the 7900 XTX...
No one is panicking i was done with Nvidia after the 30 series launch prices
5080 $999 - $1199
5090 $1999
Just tell me the release date of the 5090 so I can call off from work & be ready to make my purchase 🙏🏽
I hope it’s not $1099 cause it’s a really ugly number compared to $999 or $1199
5080 for less than 1200 is delusional
@@hochhaul 4080 sold relatively poorly at that price, but Nvidia might not care about that this time around as there is no real competition
How both of you have exactly 108K subs?
They will not be that high. It’s likely just a reaction test to get an idea of what reception may be.
that would be false advertising
I'm buying the 5090. All I care about is the release date 😎
Panic about a 5080 or 90?
I'd never buy one in the first place why do I care?
For the people who would buy one I HOPE they're practicing financial responsibility. So, the 4090 was often found for around $2000 regardless of that price listed by Nvidia unless you could actually buy the Nvidia branded GPU. It seems like a lot, but there are millions of households around the world where that's nothing to them. In the US, 25% of households could buy that no problem, that's who Nvidia is targeting globally. They're not targeting the lower 50% of the households even in wealthy counties. They don't need to sell that many. They make gobs of money as a company.
Nvidia's top end gaming GPUs are EXACTLY what their CEO said, made for doing work even though they're outstanding gaming GPUs, and Nvidia has said that's going to be the 5080 and above. That doesn't mean they don't want gamers to buy it, what they mean is they've priced it out of the realm of the lower 50 - 60% of gamers, so retailers should target them as work devices.
IF the 5090 hits a target of more than 25% the performance of a 4090, AND because it's a luxury or work product even though it doesn't have the same type of product support as a WS GPU, it's going to cost a lot. Nvidia has no reason to price it under $2000 which means on the street it's going to be about $2300 - $2500. If they EVER get competition at this level of performance maybe they'll bring the price down a little but since they dominate the market, it would only be a little.
I have a 6950 XT that I paid $600 new for it. It's a perfectly fine 2K GPU and I don't need to step up to 4K. Now, I'll replace it even paying up to $700 USD IF it's a lot better than the 6950 XT in AI processing for AI upscaling along with having excellent RT performance allowing the GPU to still run 2K gaming with RT. If not I can run that 6950 XT for the next 4 - 5 years and simply skip the games where the 6950 XT would struggle to stay above 60 fps min with slightly scaled down quality settings, and that's OK, I don't have to play THAT game, I'm happy playing games I haven't played before which means I'm open to a game library of more than 100 games as I've never been a heavy gamer. So, that's the dealeo.
WHEN I get to the point of wanting to buy a 65" 4K OLED then I may want to move to 4K gaming, but I'm not going to pay more than $850 for a 4K GPU AND it would have to run RT at 4K and give good performance. If AMD or Nvidia don't want to get to that point, I'll stick with 2K gaming. It's not like any of this is that important for my existence. It's fun, but it's fun on a 1080p or 2K monitor so......................
Nvidia pushed msrp of the rtx 4090 up to $1,999 after a while. don't forget the awful "rtx 3090 ti" was msrp of the same $1,999.
These types of rumors shouldn't be propagated! They just make people believe that it's going to be like this and Nvidia feels comfortable actually charging those prices later.
Nvidia: "What's the profit margins on the Data Center chip vs the Consumer chip".. "Well, boss, it's 4000% on the Data center part, and 100% on the Consumer card, after increasing the Consumer card's price by 90%"... "OK, let's do that." It's not hard to figure out. Why would you sell the same chip for waaaay less? They should be calling the 5080 the 5090, and putting more ram on it, and selling the 5090 as a Titan card. People wouldn't freak out as much.
I personally see no reason why nvidia wouldn't just charge these obscene prices, over and over again people pretend to be outraged by the new pricing, while the cards themselves sell out like hotcakes, theres no reason to believe they will not try to push the boundaries when every time they did so they have gotten rewarded. not panic, more like realistic expectations based on prior experiences regarding nvidia in recent generations
My biggest problem is not being able to get a 5080 at MSRP. It's the scalpers marking them up. I'm still on my 3070ti ready to upgrade. See what happens. I wish they did verified preorders for single cards.
What scalper would be dumb enough to buy something at an untenable price only to add their own margins to a previously untenable price? That would be downright foolhardy.
It's odd to have a video dedicated to the leaced prices on hardware that isn't being marketed to the consumer class to begin with, but having that video telling the consumer class to "remain calm" about the prices of hardware that isn't being marketed to us is an additional oddity. If the cards were for us, you can rest assured that those prices would be at least 2/3 lower than rumors suggest.
NVIDIA somehow has to up their profit margin. 70-80% profit per card is way too little for them.
You're literally called red gaming tech, that's team red or AMD for those not in the know. Safe to dismiss this video as troll conspiracy.
When the head of Nvidia was asked about pricing he was quoted at saying that the 5080 and 5090s were made for professional use and the 5070s and down were being built for gaming so Im thinking its going to be like the days of the Titan cards being outrageously priced for the time they came out and were aimed at the professionals. So I can see some ridiculas prices from them but will wait and see because I dont hold a lot of value these days in leaked info
I paid $900 for a 6800xt during the covid/mining boom.Yeah, I did it. I sold it for $400 not too long ago. Is what it is but spending $2000+ on a GPU during normal times is ludicrous.
Don't panic! I am Nvidia shill.
10:11 Is logic really something you could apply to hardware these days?
14:00 What is this footage from? A new Re-Volt?
$3000 USD for a RTX 5090??!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! KEEP IT!
where are all the guys that were telling everyone not to buy the 4080 and to wait for the 5000 series? 😆
They likely sold their 4090s waiting to buy the 5090. So they cant be on the computer right now.
RTX 4090 Strix already costs like $2800 in India.
The more we speculate & worry about them being 3K the more comfortable Nvidia will feel pricing them at 2K and making us think we're getting a deal, you don't need a tinfoil hat to work out Nvidia may have even started this pricing rumour themselves for this very reason
And here i thought i was the only one still playing magic carpet after all these years!
I hope this pricing is accurate. Something has got to discourage people from buying at such inflated prices. I’d love to see them price cards high enough that finally *most* people don’t buy them.
2000 Dollar at least for the 5090 was always my Prediction btw.
Loved this vid! Informative and funny! 😂
nVidia must be having some major yield issues. The insane pricing might be an attempt to keep the demand down far enough for nVidia to meet it, while selling the lower end models that are yielding better while using the flagship models to maintain the prestige lead.
And unfortunately, if Battlemage and the Radeon 9700 XTX are only competitive with the 4080, performance wise nVidia will have a huge lead that will attract a lot of people... until the tariffs spike them, anyway.
Nvidia. Why sell card for 800 usd if you can sell it for 1000,1200,1400 and some people will buy it
I Love Magic carpet and always wished for a new updated version, great shout out!!! Merry Christmas
Recently got a 7900xt so I will worry or not about GPU prices of the 60 series. I heard nothing about how good the upcoming cards are going to be, Like we are 2 weeks out and more of the same seems to be a best guess of whats coming, no massive price/performance jumps no new must have tech just 5s (and 9s wtf) on boxes and I guess a standard ~30% generational imporvements so a current gen card on dicount just seemed to be the only move
Depending on the brands, I'm thinking that the 5080 in the US is gonna retail closer to 2000 + Tax, and the 90 will be closer to 3000 + tax.
I would pay 1900 to 2 grand for the new 5090 but I won't go beyond that. If Nvidia is going to price that garbage I hope scalpers don't pay and the company screws itself
It’s gonna be 2 grand. 3000 is extremely unrealistic even if it’s gddr7 and 32 gigs of vram