"laser, heat assisted magnetic recording" that is a modern day version of magneto-optical disks from the late 1980s and 1990s, they were great, robust, reliable storage. I used them. Does FridayCheckout remember those?
Naw for real, I have a gigabit internet connection and I just want to start saving content of all kinds because I don’t trust the powers that be these days.
You have to give the HDD industry credit... when they announce new impressive sounding tech that allows for crazy amounts of storage, it's pretty much always ready for release. Remember those helium drives a few years ago?
"Remember those helium drives a few years ago?" Remember those HDD sky high failure rates compared to other pc components like cpus and low durability?
@@profounddamas This is to be expected of the most mechanically engaged piece of data storage. Unlike HDDs, there's no moving parts inside CPUs. Any reasonable person expects HDD to fail before any other component and prepares accordingly.
@@Miraihi You say that but HDD's have honestly been one of the most reliable components I've ever bought. Well, except for some more recent ones I got from WD, a 1tb and 2tb drive, both failed inside of 2-3 years. But I have one 500gb drive that is still running fine after like 15 years. SSDs also seem very reliable, never had one fail as of yet.
@@larion2336 well, early release new HD tech has had issues in the past. From LBA HD's BIOS/HD driver issues to later sluffing of the platter coating, which took being mass produced, mass marketed to identify and quickly correct. There's a reason it's called bleeding edge. So, I'll wait a bit on the 32 TB devices, until the design is fully proven stable.
Not DVD-RAM, they are magneto-optical MO-disks, with added quantum tech. If you do not know MO-disks see the Mission Impossible (1996) film where the plot centers on obtaining a 90 mm (3.5") MO-disk.
@rhoharane it bothers me how bloated it's become. It's also amazing that it's almost 2025 and we don't have cool computer operating systems that look like the ones on Sci fi movies. Way to go backwards windows... Had that in 7. Now 11 has even less customization.
@@truckywuckyuwu I'm using shutup10++, very glad that it exists. Windows honestly isn't that bad, which is to say it's usable, but it's still a whole lot of missed potential.
06:23 The EU (European Union) is not Europe. It's a trade group, with political ambitions, that has members from 27 of Europe's 50 countries. So many TH-camrs keep using the EU and the EU symbol (it's officially not a flag by the way) for Europe, which is wrong.
@@Pixelarter Nonono, you're doing it wrong - you need to place ANOTHER ONE of these behind it... and another one behind that one... you can watch ALL your favorite shows all at once! TVception!
Try and think about all the latest "revolutionary" things, social media, smartphones, streaming etc All of them are 15 years old. I can't wait for wokeness to be gone, companies hiring competent people and making progress again. The entire Western hemisphere is in stand by since 2013... It's pathetic. TH-cam latest features were removing comments faster and removing the dislike button lol, how low can the bar go? Video games are running internally at 720p 30fps again lol No wonders you're excited by a laser and a hard disk 😅
The potential for HAMR to revolutionize storage capacity is huge. It's exciting to see innovation that could lead to 4-5TB drives becoming mainstream in the near future.
How does Toshiba's FC-MAMR compare to HAMR? Is it basically a subset of HAMR? I think you should be able to buy a 18tb drive from toshiba with HAMR already in it for under $200
This is great for data center companies but for gamers what benefits does it have for games unlike a SSD? This is just a upgraded hard drive nothing that fits what gamers need in there hard drives. So Good for data centers but I don't see it's working for gamers lol
Lazers are not used to store the data, that is still magnetic. The lazers instead heat the track being written to. The hotter metal allows the data to be written easier than the adjacent non-heated tracks allowing tracks to be put closer together on the disk.
I got to be honest. All Seagate hard drives I've ever owned have broken inside of 3 years. I still have a Hitachi and Wd that are over 7 years old still going strong. I'll wait till the other companies come up with the laser hds.
I'm going to be replacing my 13 year old WD HD today with another WD hard drive. There's nothing wrong with the original, I just want a backup. Can't beat that reliability.
@@joemerino3243 True. I steered away from them years ago when my first harddrive from them starting making noise less than 2 years after I bought it. There was a video online that was discussing harddrive reliability, and Seagate was the worst. Had tons of data behind it. Makes me believe this laser HD will probably last less than a year.
As someone who has built many computers, I have never ever in my entire usage of Seagate (or Maxtor in the old times) encountered any of them break, I still own an external one which is been working 13 years. In my experience WD are the worst drives I have ever encountered. Much slower when they're half way full, and break more often.
gta ? nah. future call of duty releases ? definitely. gta 6 is supposed to release on the ps5 first, which is not insanely powerful, nor does it have THAT much space. It will most likely be a nicely optimized game with an acceptable file size (for modern standards at least). I'd say it would end up occupying around 200-300GB at most.
@ignatcristian3036 maybe they're gonna sell an "official expansion" drive for it to run on PS5/XBOX, who knows😄 never gonna happen, of course, but there's no harm in speculating)
3:17 when weighing the amount of vulnerabilities, TP-Link has lower vulns than Cisco. I think it's more so that they can't backdoor them and they're easier to get OpenWrt on them.
Don't know the vulnerabilities stats for either. But yeah, the US doesn't like when they can't get the manufacturer to help them backdoor consumer electronics. And it gets even worse when manufacturers don't make it impossible to install custom firmware... then they need more than a single tool per brand to be able to compromise the devices. But, sure, there have been examples of TP-Links being used for DDoS, but I remember that has also happened with Cisco/Linksys in the past. Seems silly to ban the hardware, if they really cared about security, they could basically just ask for all devices sold in the US to arrive with OpenWRT as default.
@@BenjaminVestergaardjust like China doesn’t allow any one to open a factory in China unless they tie up with local companies? How they don’t allow Google, FB, Twitter, Netflix, TH-cam.
@@gund89123 China is very demanding regarding allowing foreign companies to operate in their country. But the reason Google isn't there isn't because they are simply not allowed... it was Google's own choice not wanting to implement censorship in their algorithm on google.cn silly thing is that Google is perfectly fine with obeying US requirements and requests 🤷♂️ Microsoft/Bing is still working fine in China, because MS is willing to tailor their service to whatever country a user/person is located. Netflix wasn't banned, they simply didn't wanna enter the market because of the competition with piracy streaming services... while piracy is illegal in China, it's enforced less than the illegal use of VPN services. Anyway... while I use Google services like YT, my personal email address is hosted in Germany, because the US basically has no privacy laws. If a US router manufacturer or ISP wants to sell your data to a russian or Chinese "company", that's perfectly legal. So, my point is rather simple, if you want to take back your privacy and control... there's basically only open source options left... they have the transparency that all sides can reveal each others' attempts to implement trojans. Require that the hardware comes with a fairly recent publicly available OpenWRT. It would need some rather obvious hardware oddities to implement a backdoor if the software is open/free/transparent.
Iirc this is basically how MO drives (and by extension MiniDiscs) worked. Early NeXT computers even experimented in using them as a form of fixed storage. Interesting to see it making a come back.
Would be great for making your own personal movie server, but not very useful for games since a lot of modern games have insufferably slow loading times on Hard Drives.
@@DioTheGreatOne yup. my home server would be miniaturised if such device comes out but I don't think they will ever do so, normal users will stop buying hhd for decades if such devices come out.
im still amazed that you can get 10+ tb drives for so cheap now. I bought a 3tb drive really not that long ago for about $300 and the price has fallen so much. I thought prices were at rock bottom but I was proven very wrong.
Funny enough, all of the reasons they are banning TP-Link from the US are, verifiably, applying double standards. Cisco routers have so many more known security vulnerabilities per product it's ridiculous they even try to portray TP-Link as a security risk. Edit: also the TP-Link routers being used in botnets, Cisco routers literally make the majority of botnet routers lmao
@@xuansu9036 Your answer doesn't make sense, why waste resources and drive out investments unless there is a real violation? and how did you know conclude that there was no violation?
I like Fridays because of your show. You make me happy. Watched every single episode of this series. Your channel is my favorite tech channel. Keep up the good work Martin!
I don't see why the tech would be more expensive than magnetic drives. I'm guessing once the novelty wears out and r&d is recouped, they'll be cheaper than magnetic drives.
I’m old enough to remember when sub-$1000 1 GIGABYTE hard drives were announced. Give it a year or three, and you’ll be getting 100TB hard drives in your laptops. 😃
1:20 FYI the 30TB is great(if its the same one we have) unlike the 32TB it is not a SMR drive but a CMR meaning very fast writes as SMR drives need to copy blocks to cache before writing the new data, and then the copied blocks
@@GuigEspritDuSage It's more suitable for long term data archiving rather than fast read/write, kinda like magnetic tapes I guess? I was disappointed at the speeds till I realised the target market might not be me.
Honestly, considering the FCC's rip&replace program for Huawei and ZTE is still under 20% done, you might as well make the TP Link ban only apply for consumer and military. Seems like US companies, even internet service providers, will just use banned equipment forever unless it breaks down or they get a fat enough check for replacing the stuff.
The reason is simple, why people like TPLink. They are cheap and simply work. For example, Cisco hardware is known for being secure, but you need experience to make them work.
Asus is also cheap but allowed DOS attacks in Europe just like the Tp-link routers. Well, Asus routers got the new secure firmware, not sure about tp-link.
@@iam5085 so? Makes this your problem or the problem of the public services that don't use a proper network gear as they should? for private use, every all in one router is a security risk, but for officials and public installations there are more capable routers available some of them cost 1.000 to 10.000€ those are only routers. You need a firewall, a switch and then you can think about what and how you trying to connect to the internet. your "Router" you may call is a simplified all in one solution. it is a router, a switch, a telephone bridge, a firewall, maybe a home assistant bridge, a NAS and some other functions depending on your hardware. your ISP provider's chosen Router is the worst possible router you can get. Regardless of the brand and their reputation. This thing is only smart enough that the most dumbest person can set it up without calling the ISP provider. Besides that, a software or a browser can bypass every security measure with only one click so you can have the safest Router, but you are the risk for your own network.
Man, I love your videos and the info you provide. Have you ever considered making shorts of each of these sections? It should be easier to share with friends
You can use the clip feature to select and send a specific part of a video, but yes I've actually thought of shorts. Still not sure how I could make it would work, but maybe soon! :)
@@TheFridayCheckout Wouldn't it be possible to just cut smaller clips from the episodes (i.e. the release monitor section or individual stories from the main section) and adjust the layout for shorts by including you in front of the camera as well as the on screen info on top of each other? Basically not having to change anything besides the layout? I think this format works just as well as a long video as it does as segmented into several shorts.
At these sizes it's probably best used as archival for now while the tech matures, though it does bear strick8ng resemblance to old Magneto-optical which was pretty good in it's time The read speeds may be decently fast at least, the write phase may be much slower due to the higher complexity of the process, one thing that Magneto-optical had going for it was data stability, as once the laser heated a section, the magnetic feild was set, and cooled again it was difficult to shift again without repeating the same process, so no magnets accidentally whiping your drive
Speeds don't really matter with HDDs, they won't ever compete with SSDs on speed. They'll use faster caches, but it's best to stick them in a NAS with a dedicated cache.
oooooooooooooooooh! Now i understand how harddrives work and why there's so many disks, cause there's also reading antennas on each disk! That makes so much sense! I always thought there was like, only one antennae and many disks that weren't used, but now i understand it so much clearer!
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2:09 Gaming on Linux is already around as much of a "thing" as it could be. Pretty much every decently-popular game which isn't primarily online and/or has intrusive anti-cheat already works. On the other hand, games which do have intrusive anti-cheat will likely never come to Linux as the possibility that anything explicitly intended to enable kernel-level anti-cheat is practically impossible, even individual distros adding such functionality would be met with extreme backlash.
I wish that was true. But only game you are really guaranteed to play on Linux is gambling! Because you never know if a game will work or not. Even the Proton Database is a bit misleading in this regard. I don't consider a game that technically runs, but displays everything without the correct lighting or shaders "working" on Linux. I know this is a steep demand, but games on Linux do not only need to work, the need to work well!
@@overflow7276 That's why I specified "Pretty much every decently-popular game", as generally a game with a big enough following will have patches made for it if possible, even for games with very major issues.
@@overflow7276with all due respect mate, that has not been my experience at all. I've been using linux exclusively for the past two years and literally every single game I tried to run ran perfectly. granted, I don't play a ton of online games, and the ones I do play don't have the kernel level anticheat. Every sjngleplayer game I tried runs well, that's more than good enough, for me at least.
All of the Linux distros need to work on interoperability & pick a standard for companies to develop against natively. The array of binary file formats & package managers fighting each other is silly. Commercial software should not be downloaded from the package managers. Documentation needs to be human friendly. Every distro should install from an ISO.
Very nice tech news update - This was exactly what I was looking for. (just a quick review of important news topics with a video under 10 minutes and has bookmarks to skip sections) Thank you so much. Adding this to my subscribe list!
You know, I know some people ask why anyone would want a gaming device that can play PC games but doesn't run Windows. But the fact is, I just loath Windows. So while I'm not big on handheld gaming (despite my only current gen console being a Switch). If Valve got somebody to make a 'steam box' that came with a controller, let me hook it up to my TV and let me download an play games that are intended for Windows but on hardware that doesn't require me to run Windows? Yeah, sign me up!
@@protocetid Okay, fair enough, I admit the architecture is obviously limiting, but I absolutely would not go so far as to say you can play "nothing". Saying that PCs use x86 is an oversimplification. There are non-apple computers that use arm, namely snapdragon based machines which are gaining some market share (Unless you consider a "PC" to use x86 by definition but that's a pretty archaic use of the term). I don't know how they would fair on linux, but the website Worksonwoa categorizes 1,288 games as either perfect or playable on arm machines running windows. And of course, there are games and emulators that are open source that you can compile yourself. You can look on TH-cam and see people playing games on a switch running linux. From what I've seen the biggest issue is performance more often than instruction set.
@@protocetid”and then play nothing because the Switch uses ARM and PCs use x86”. The most stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. By this dumb logic: No x68 games should even be able to be playable on the Steam Deck. Yet they do. The Deck isn’t even x86 but it’s in an ARM process…
It isn't really. I think SMR is a horrid technology but that's my opinion as a vid editor consumer. The giant data centres can use them and they're welcome to them as they can afford them and their complexity to manage. My view is that SMR is so complex one would be asking for trouble. Give me the 26TB Gold CMR drive any and every day of the week thank you! K.I.S.S - Keep It Simple Stupid - a great philosophy, methinks.
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Say what you want about spinning rust but having 12TB of dirt-cheap storage (paid just $100 each for 2 6TB drives) so that I can have my entire DVD collection along with my entire music library along with recording all my gameplay footage? Really enjoying that. Also great for my single player games where I don't need NVME speeds, all the classic games like the Bioshock series and all my boomer shooters really don't benefit from being on NVME so having all my favorite games ready to go when I have the urge to play them is quite nice.
yup, same uses as me. storing stuff that doesn't need blazing fast speeds. honestly, also useful to use as a scratch disk for steam now that some games download a 1mb patch but move 200gbs of data around to patch that change into the files. making the HDD the scratch disk for that saves a lot of wear on the sdd (hdds don't really care much about how much you write to them)
@@GraveUypo I see that Ristar profile picture , why won't sega make a new one ? It would have been cool to see that franchise evolve alongside sonic since they had the same developer and similar art style on the megadrive
@@asumazilla Great idea, only problem is carting one about with you everywhere you go. What happens if you are not at home in your Faraday box when something happens? I always felt the whole Faraday cage / box was a band aid to a bigger problem - useful when you need them granted, but only if you happen to have one at the time you need it.
I'd love it if maybe we'd get S-ATA 4 at some point... And if not, maybe consumer boards and drives that support SAS4 all well and good that we now have 32tb HDDs, but if their data interface keeps being so slow what's the point? Much more relevant for consumer ssds of course, but we're nevertheless already approaching that limit on HDDs, too. I see no reason why the only actually fast consumer ssds all have to use nvme
They'll probably use U.2 instead of SATA. U2 is basically NVMe but with a wired connector instead of the M2 slot we are used to. NVMe is more of an open standard and uses PCIe.
@@thekakan Yeah, but consumer CPUs don't have the amount of PCIe lanes required for having 5-6 drives + 1 GPU + 1 other expansion card, unless we get something like a trimode hba card, and then we're back at where we're already at. I also wish there were better cables for U.2 drives... My current boot drive is U.2 and my motherboard didn't have an Oculink connector and no open M.2 slots for an M.2=>Oculink adapter, so now my U.2 boot drive awkwardly sits in a PCIe x8 -> U.2 carrier card... And even if the motherboard had Oculink connectors, they don't come with power, so it's always an awkward cable with Sata-power and Oculink on one end and U.2 on the other... Personally I'd love it if we just had SAS-4 for consumer drives, with proper cables and a proper SAS-4 controller embedded on the mainboard.
I wonder what the write speed is on that 32TB HDD. If it's still only 100 - 200 MB/s you would have to write 2 - 4 days non-stop to fill one of those drives. That really limits the practical use cases for such a drive.
@@TheScrubmuffin69 so you leave your PC running for half a week straight for that file transfer or let it run a whole week for half a day each day while away at work or something? Super annoying process. I use a bunch of 4TB SATA SSDs in my Plex server. They have come down so far in price that while still more expensive than HDDs not having to deal with HDD transfer speeds is absolutely worth it imo.
@@TheScrubmuffin69 Really the only home application use case where I see a 30+ TB HDD as a valid option is for security camera footage storage. You have a ton of data which you will probably/hopefully never have to actually access but it's there just in case. Also there's not much data that needs to be overwritten at any given time.
would be more interested in TB prices If HDD would Go down. WE are stuck with the same prices since years and services can t keep up with the ever growing demand of storage space.
200Mb/sec same as existing HDD assemblies on SATA configuration...just drive densities have increased and data integrity improved...so basically for slow, large data bases or archive storage
@@Cheffamilyyep. SSD left unpowered will slowly lose charge in its cells leading to data corruption. HDDs don’t have this issue and do better with longterm cold storage.
Absolutely not. First generations of completely new technologies are renowned for their dependability. I recommend using a single one of these drives as your sole long term backup strategy. 👍👍👍
Does it ONLY have a 1 year limited warranty like all their other current products? If so then I don't care how many TB's it has, if they expect it to break in less then a year.
About those space savings. They also make SMR drives because it delivers more space cheaper and the side effect is performance drops to around 10% of a normal CMR drive and you can't even tell as they won't even write on the label which one you have. Toshiba performs even worse.
And I just bought a bunch of 18tb drives. They really need to quit charging such an outrageous premium on drives over 18tb, which I feel is still currently the sweet spot. I suppose at least these higher capacity drives means I'll be getting many more years use out of my filled NAS boxes.
I'm confused, I saw this video and decided to search more info and all I'm getting is news articles from a year ago saying they've just started shipping 30TB+ HAMR drives to partners. So what is different about this news today? Everything in the year old articles says the same stuff as this video
So Seagate's next generation Hard Disk Drives (HDD) will have read and write as fast or maybe even faster than Solid-state Drives (SSD) than the previous generations' HDDs ?
It's a shame the hard drive will likely be insanely expensive. if consumer drives had that tech for a reasonabe price it would be groundbreaking. Time capsule it idiotic. The whole point of airtags are that its tiny. If you want something better just get a rechargable via USB-c card which is super slim as well.
A friend of mine was researching something regarding lasers at Western Digital back at around 2007-2008. So that laser stuff could have pretty long history.
Seagate 32 TB HDD: So much heat will deform the platters helped by the centrifugal forces, also make them in general hot and to bend down by Gravity; to compensate this: the platters should have slopes of material towards the center, giving them strength and durability, and slightly more surface for more data.
65% of home and small business market share!!!! HOME and SMALL BUSINESS! And yeah ... they found out firmware is hard to write!!! I recommend everybody to watch any documentary about the Chinese Exclusion Act to learn how this is not new. Further reading: Richard Hofstadter's "The Paranoid Style in American Politics" published in 1965 - only 23 years after Roosevelt removed the Chinese Exclusion Act.
What is the introductory cost for 32 TB, and what kind of Read/Write speeds? Also, what is the MTBF? I mean when they first introduced SSD's they were not very reliable.
I am hoping these 32TB drives will push more large drives on the second hand/ refurb market. Been living well on those for years. Got a few trusted sources and they been giving me cheaper drives that last longer than some new ones I have bought. Anything 20TB plus will be great. I got a 10TB nearly 1000 days of on time. Would like to swap it to external use and replace it with a different drive on my main computer.
Wtf are yall putting on 10tb drives. I got one 2tb SSD and one 5TB HDD. All my steam games, wow, league, diablo, poe and barely used over 3 TBs total. That includes various videos that I upload on my channel And all 1k+ music.
I wonder what the write time will be on these drives. I do a ton of multi-TB backups, and NVMe are still too expensive (too bad as the speed is delicious) If we could match the 6Gps from the standard controler, that would be best. It's painful to do backups at 100-200 MBps. Looking for forward to try one when they become available to the public.
It doesnt matter. Just that ''screech, click, screech'' sound is enough to put you off, let alone caring where that darn needle is gonna land in case of a blackout.
Back in 2010 people were beginning to say hard drives were on their last legs due to SSD's getting bigger and better, but it seems hard drives are still getting better too.
The hard disk manufacturers really can't think of anything better than squeezing ever higher capacities into 3.5 inch housings and leaving everything else as it is. No (new) SSHDs, no HHDs with more than one actuator (higher speed and IOPS) and no support for NVMe 2.0.
@@bottering_one Have you even looked into the costs associated with a hard disk with a SAS port, for example? - If so, you wouldn't even suggest such nonsense.
How much of the things being said about TP Link is Propaganda? They said the same thing about DJI and Byte Dance aka Tim Tok! Their efforts are more aimed towards US manufacturers gaining unfair, Government Sponsored Advantages.
It would take at least three continuous days of writing to a 32 TB drive at 100 MB/s to fill it. It would also take about that long to find the file you put in there using Windows search.
Why would you have a transparent TV? That seems the opposite of OLED strength, the deep black level. Is the hard disk related to previous magneto optical technology? I wonder if the lifetime of that laser can be any good. They still marked it as SMR instead of something else. I'd think the laser would erase a relatively big patch.
I wonder what the read/write speeds will be of those new HDs, and the pricing of course. But they might be really good for mass storage indeed. Time will show how long they last etc.
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Great video as always mate!
I wonder if the laser HD read write times are better?
"laser, heat assisted magnetic recording" that is a modern day version of magneto-optical disks from the late 1980s and 1990s, they were great, robust, reliable storage. I used them. Does FridayCheckout remember those?
Don't rip that seek time / rotational latency optimized data storage read/write code out of the Linux Kernel just yet!
"Watergate" drives are just a meme at this point.
That 32TB hard drive means that I can finally have more than 3 games installed on my pc! What a time to be alive.
oh yeah , this model of an female character bakery monopoly weights roughtly 900 gigabytes
When the storage becomes even bigger, the games will just follow...
I remember loading games from tape lol.
Don't worry, next CoD game will take half of your new drive...
You want those shiny modern graphics dont ye? That swag UE5? Guess who's coming for your storage 😉
damn that 32tb drive tickles my hoarding instinct so badly
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SMR is meh.
Naw for real, I have a gigabit internet connection and I just want to start saving content of all kinds because I don’t trust the powers that be these days.
@@AffectionateLocomotive The 30TB is CMR
Me too, but it will be expensive for a while
Finally I can pirate all anime at 1080p on one drive.
You have to give the HDD industry credit... when they announce new impressive sounding tech that allows for crazy amounts of storage, it's pretty much always ready for release. Remember those helium drives a few years ago?
"Remember those helium drives a few years ago?" Remember those HDD sky high failure rates compared to other pc components like cpus and low durability?
@@profounddamas This is to be expected of the most mechanically engaged piece of data storage. Unlike HDDs, there's no moving parts inside CPUs. Any reasonable person expects HDD to fail before any other component and prepares accordingly.
@@profounddamashelium drives had lower failure rates than regular hard drives, less heat produced and less friction has that effect lol
@@Miraihi You say that but HDD's have honestly been one of the most reliable components I've ever bought. Well, except for some more recent ones I got from WD, a 1tb and 2tb drive, both failed inside of 2-3 years. But I have one 500gb drive that is still running fine after like 15 years. SSDs also seem very reliable, never had one fail as of yet.
@@larion2336 well, early release new HD tech has had issues in the past.
From LBA HD's BIOS/HD driver issues to later sluffing of the platter coating, which took being mass produced, mass marketed to identify and quickly correct.
There's a reason it's called bleeding edge.
So, I'll wait a bit on the 32 TB devices, until the design is fully proven stable.
Thumbnail says 32"GB"
1997 has been great so far!
i legit thought it was an entire new paradigm of storage (which it technically is) that was just like the tiny chip SSDs
Fixed, thanks!
He fixed it.
It is still in the video at th-cam.com/video/-HyR373zkX4/w-d-xo.html
So.... seagate's new HDDs are quantum DVD-RAM.
This doesn’t impress you? Are you a quantum scientist 😂
@@chatsnoirblamo 🤣
That is bad news considering how unreliable DVD-RAM was for me.
Not DVD-RAM, they are magneto-optical MO-disks, with added quantum tech.
If you do not know MO-disks see the Mission Impossible (1996) film where the plot centers on obtaining a 90 mm (3.5") MO-disk.
I was thinking magnet-optical as well!
valve is really pushing linux gaming to the world
I hope so. I'm tired of windows
windows is pushing linux to anyone who can make the switch
@rhoharane it bothers me how bloated it's become.
It's also amazing that it's almost 2025 and we don't have cool computer operating systems that look like the ones on Sci fi movies. Way to go backwards windows... Had that in 7. Now 11 has even less customization.
@@truckywuckyuwu I'm using shutup10++, very glad that it exists. Windows honestly isn't that bad, which is to say it's usable, but it's still a whole lot of missed potential.
no wonder why linus said valve might actually be going to save linux. i hope they make some f***ing worthy contribution.
06:23 The EU (European Union) is not Europe. It's a trade group, with political ambitions, that has members from 27 of Europe's 50 countries. So many TH-camrs keep using the EU and the EU symbol (it's officially not a flag by the way) for Europe, which is wrong.
glad to see somebody gets this straight
How does a trade group compel sovereign nations to allow an unvetted flow of illegal immigrants through their borders?
Transparent TV? So now I can watch a movie AND my wall at the same time?
Not only that. You'll also feel like you're living in the future the first week after purchase.
@@PropaneWP
And then you want a classic TV...
Or you can place a regular TV behind and watch two TVs at the same time!!
@@Pixelarter Nonono, you're doing it wrong - you need to place ANOTHER ONE of these behind it... and another one behind that one... you can watch ALL your favorite shows all at once! TVception!
@@AttilaAsztalosGalaxy brain. You're a true genius.
Finally, a revolutionary invention which is 1.) revolutionary 2.) you can actually buy it - it seems, though I didn't find it anywhere in stock.
Try and think about all the latest "revolutionary" things, social media, smartphones, streaming etc
All of them are 15 years old. I can't wait for wokeness to be gone, companies hiring competent people and making progress again.
The entire Western hemisphere is in stand by since 2013... It's pathetic. TH-cam latest features were removing comments faster and removing the dislike button lol, how low can the bar go? Video games are running internally at 720p 30fps again lol No wonders you're excited by a laser and a hard disk 😅
@@SLRModShopsir this is a wendy's
@@alcan808 That made me laugh but you need to learn when to use it. Still, it did make me laugh :)
@@SLRModShop Sir this is not a wendy's.
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No, I will not make you seventeen hundred burgers.
@@SLRModShop chatgpt is revolutionary and that was only possible in the past few years
The potential for HAMR to revolutionize storage capacity is huge. It's exciting to see innovation that could lead to 4-5TB drives becoming mainstream in the near future.
Yes, they are magneto-optical disks for GenZ.
the only question is - do you really need to store all that crap so someone can then go and train an AI model off of it
How does Toshiba's FC-MAMR compare to HAMR? Is it basically a subset of HAMR?
I think you should be able to buy a 18tb drive from toshiba with HAMR already in it for under $200
@@dsfs17987that is exactly why I need to store them all locally instead of the cloud
This is great for data center companies but for gamers what benefits does it have for games unlike a SSD? This is just a upgraded hard drive nothing that fits what gamers need in there hard drives. So Good for data centers but I don't see it's working for gamers lol
That hardrive is crazy, I remember saving things on MB of data on floppy discs in my lifetime.
Damn you're young, mine were 560KB lol
Geeeez. Were horses still a common mode of transportation?
Just kidding! I'm 62. I recall starting with 5.25" floppies and almost right way, 3.5".
My first memory expansion was a 16K RAM pack...
@@SLRModShopmeanwhile I'm looking at data cassettes...
@@PeterLawton 8 inch floppy with 80 kilobytes!
Lazers are not used to store the data, that is still magnetic. The lazers instead heat the track being written to. The hotter metal allows the data to be written easier than the adjacent non-heated tracks allowing tracks to be put closer together on the disk.
I got to be honest. All Seagate hard drives I've ever owned have broken inside of 3 years. I still have a Hitachi and Wd that are over 7 years old still going strong.
I'll wait till the other companies come up with the laser hds.
I'm going to be replacing my 13 year old WD HD today with another WD hard drive. There's nothing wrong with the original, I just want a backup. Can't beat that reliability.
I have a wd. Green 2tb since 2012 no bad sectors quite as a mouse and under constant heavy load
@@joemerino3243 True. I steered away from them years ago when my first harddrive from them starting making noise less than 2 years after I bought it.
There was a video online that was discussing harddrive reliability, and Seagate was the worst. Had tons of data behind it. Makes me believe this laser HD will probably last less than a year.
As someone who has built many computers, I have never ever in my entire usage of Seagate (or Maxtor in the old times) encountered any of them break, I still own an external one which is been working 13 years. In my experience WD are the worst drives I have ever encountered. Much slower when they're half way full, and break more often.
Are you 20yrs old ?
I'm still running 8 X 2Tb Seagate drives from 2015....🤪
When Zlatan downloads Windows, Microsoft accepts his terms and conditions.
lmao
😂😂😂
Zlatan once visited "The Virgin Islands" now they're just called "The Islands"
Plot twist: GTA VI will be 1.3TB worth of storage
gta ? nah. future call of duty releases ? definitely.
gta 6 is supposed to release on the ps5 first, which is not insanely powerful, nor does it have THAT much space. It will most likely be a nicely optimized game with an acceptable file size (for modern standards at least). I'd say it would end up occupying around 200-300GB at most.
@ignatcristian3036yea... You're living in the past lol.
@@Unlucky1776 yea... thank goodness you're here to enlighten us uncs. If gta6 takes more than 400gb you can return here and call me a fool
@ignatcristian3036 maybe they're gonna sell an "official expansion" drive for it to run on PS5/XBOX, who knows😄 never gonna happen, of course, but there's no harm in speculating)
@ignatcristian3036 gentlemans agreement. I'll remind myself to comeback here if it's 500gb or more.
That Release Monitor is perfect for my budget
I know, right? I also have 60k USD TVs myself!
@@TheFridayCheckout Absolutely! That transparent TV would look great next to my Micro LED one !
The 1.5 millionaires watching the Friday Checkout just got really excited
D Links has Security flaws and tp link gets banned. gets easier to choose a router
But what 6G 160Hz access point will I get now? I dont have the money for ubitquity and Tenda or Zykel sound sketchy 😭
Research those other two brands so they’re less sketchy.
Or get tp link before the ban, (unsure abt reliability, might have to look that up.)
Mikrotik
@Mark_badas I've used tenda its not bad, also cudy, its another good cheap brand
3:17 when weighing the amount of vulnerabilities, TP-Link has lower vulns than Cisco. I think it's more so that they can't backdoor them and they're easier to get OpenWrt on them.
Don't know the vulnerabilities stats for either.
But yeah, the US doesn't like when they can't get the manufacturer to help them backdoor consumer electronics.
And it gets even worse when manufacturers don't make it impossible to install custom firmware... then they need more than a single tool per brand to be able to compromise the devices.
But, sure, there have been examples of TP-Links being used for DDoS, but I remember that has also happened with Cisco/Linksys in the past.
Seems silly to ban the hardware, if they really cared about security, they could basically just ask for all devices sold in the US to arrive with OpenWRT as default.
@@BenjaminVestergaardjust like China doesn’t allow any one to open a factory in China unless they tie up with local companies?
How they don’t allow Google, FB, Twitter, Netflix, TH-cam.
You look like an experienced security expert, can you please provide the data supporting your claim ?
@@gund89123 China is very demanding regarding allowing foreign companies to operate in their country.
But the reason Google isn't there isn't because they are simply not allowed... it was Google's own choice not wanting to implement censorship in their algorithm on google.cn silly thing is that Google is perfectly fine with obeying US requirements and requests 🤷♂️
Microsoft/Bing is still working fine in China, because MS is willing to tailor their service to whatever country a user/person is located.
Netflix wasn't banned, they simply didn't wanna enter the market because of the competition with piracy streaming services... while piracy is illegal in China, it's enforced less than the illegal use of VPN services.
Anyway... while I use Google services like YT, my personal email address is hosted in Germany, because the US basically has no privacy laws.
If a US router manufacturer or ISP wants to sell your data to a russian or Chinese "company", that's perfectly legal.
So, my point is rather simple, if you want to take back your privacy and control... there's basically only open source options left... they have the transparency that all sides can reveal each others' attempts to implement trojans.
Require that the hardware comes with a fairly recent publicly available OpenWRT.
It would need some rather obvious hardware oddities to implement a backdoor if the software is open/free/transparent.
Iirc this is basically how MO drives (and by extension MiniDiscs) worked. Early NeXT computers even experimented in using them as a form of fixed storage. Interesting to see it making a come back.
a sub 500$ 32TB hhd would be the dream
Would be great for making your own personal movie server, but not very useful for games since a lot of modern games have insufferably slow loading times on Hard Drives.
@@DioTheGreatOne yup. my home server would be miniaturised if such device comes out but I don't think they will ever do so, normal users will stop buying hhd for decades if such devices come out.
It's $1400. Sorry. :)
im still amazed that you can get 10+ tb drives for so cheap now. I bought a 3tb drive really not that long ago for about $300 and the price has fallen so much. I thought prices were at rock bottom but I was proven very wrong.
I would want a 32TB HDD with 1GB read/write.
SATA3 is too slow for 32TB
Why is the government response to tp link so much more fierce than the one to Pegasus ? 😮
You know why. Any excuse to ban a Chinese company that’s doing well.
@@xuansu9036The whole drone thing these days is also to eventually ban DJI.
Funny enough, all of the reasons they are banning TP-Link from the US are, verifiably, applying double standards. Cisco routers have so many more known security vulnerabilities per product it's ridiculous they even try to portray TP-Link as a security risk.
Edit: also the TP-Link routers being used in botnets, Cisco routers literally make the majority of botnet routers lmao
makes you wonder who really runs the show . i-srl
@@xuansu9036 Your answer doesn't make sense, why waste resources and drive out investments unless there is a real violation? and how did you know conclude that there was no violation?
Calling a laser "photonic" is incredibly redundant. They could've just called it "nano laser", but they had to try make it sound more cool.
Marketing for the masses.
Gotta sensationalise, must sensationalise
what's wrong with putting 1 wholesome positive... *SPIN* on the photon
TRIPPLE PUN!
@@ylstorage7085
Take your thumbs up and get out!
Most sales are about the marketing.
I like Fridays because of your show. You make me happy. Watched every single episode of this series. Your channel is my favorite tech channel. Keep up the good work Martin!
01:41 no price? I think it's gonna be hella expensive!
It's not for you. They're going to sell them for data centres - with huge volume discounts, I imagine. The list price I found is about £1000.
@bztube888 OH MAI F****** GOD
I don't see why the tech would be more expensive than magnetic drives. I'm guessing once the novelty wears out and r&d is recouped, they'll be cheaper than magnetic drives.
@@bztube888$31 per tb doesn’t sound crazy tbh
I’m old enough to remember when sub-$1000 1 GIGABYTE hard drives were announced. Give it a year or three, and you’ll be getting 100TB hard drives in your laptops. 😃
1:20 FYI the 30TB is great(if its the same one we have) unlike the 32TB it is not a SMR drive but a CMR meaning very fast writes as SMR drives need to copy blocks to cache before writing the new data, and then the copied blocks
This HDD are insane, they literally require days to save or restore their content.
200MB/s+ is way too slow for such high capacities.
@@GuigEspritDuSage It's more suitable for long term data archiving rather than fast read/write, kinda like magnetic tapes I guess? I was disappointed at the speeds till I realised the target market might not be me.
i love this little rapid-fire end of week recap! look forward to it each time. happy holidays / happy new year tech altar guy!
Honestly, considering the FCC's rip&replace program for Huawei and ZTE is still under 20% done, you might as well make the TP Link ban only apply for consumer and military. Seems like US companies, even internet service providers, will just use banned equipment forever unless it breaks down or they get a fat enough check for replacing the stuff.
The reason is simple, why people like TPLink. They are cheap and simply work. For example, Cisco hardware is known for being secure, but you need experience to make them work.
Asus is also cheap but allowed DOS attacks in Europe just like the Tp-link routers. Well, Asus routers got the new secure firmware, not sure about tp-link.
@iam5085 if someone DDos attack's you you have a bigger problem as your choice of router.
@reinekewf7987 Russians have been using Asus and Tp-link routers to deny access to European banks (especially Nordea).
@@iam5085 so? Makes this your problem or the problem of the public services that don't use a proper network gear as they should?
for private use, every all in one router is a security risk, but for officials and public installations there are more capable routers available some of them cost 1.000 to 10.000€ those are only routers. You need a firewall, a switch and then you can think about what and how you trying to connect to the internet.
your "Router" you may call is a simplified all in one solution. it is a router, a switch, a telephone bridge, a firewall, maybe a home assistant bridge, a NAS and some other functions depending on your hardware.
your ISP provider's chosen Router is the worst possible router you can get. Regardless of the brand and their reputation. This thing is only smart enough that the most dumbest person can set it up without calling the ISP provider. Besides that, a software or a browser can bypass every security measure with only one click so you can have the safest Router, but you are the risk for your own network.
Cisco doesn’t sell hardware for home use.
Not fair comparison.
Man, I love your videos and the info you provide. Have you ever considered making shorts of each of these sections? It should be easier to share with friends
You can use the clip feature to select and send a specific part of a video, but yes I've actually thought of shorts. Still not sure how I could make it would work, but maybe soon! :)
Just hit share with a timestamp
@@TheFridayCheckout Wouldn't it be possible to just cut smaller clips from the episodes (i.e. the release monitor section or individual stories from the main section) and adjust the layout for shorts by including you in front of the camera as well as the on screen info on top of each other? Basically not having to change anything besides the layout?
I think this format works just as well as a long video as it does as segmented into several shorts.
0:30 laser hard drive... okay, but what about speeds? Write, and read parameters? I want to know something more about speeds
At these sizes it's probably best used as archival for now while the tech matures, though it does bear strick8ng resemblance to old Magneto-optical which was pretty good in it's time
The read speeds may be decently fast at least, the write phase may be much slower due to the higher complexity of the process, one thing that Magneto-optical had going for it was data stability, as once the laser heated a section, the magnetic feild was set, and cooled again it was difficult to shift again without repeating the same process, so no magnets accidentally whiping your drive
@@UNSCPILOT so we don't really know what the performance will be... at this moment. Thanks for your answer :)
Speeds don't really matter with HDDs, they won't ever compete with SSDs on speed. They'll use faster caches, but it's best to stick them in a NAS with a dedicated cache.
Another storage breakthrough, love it.
oooooooooooooooooh! Now i understand how harddrives work and why there's so many disks, cause there's also reading antennas on each disk! That makes so much sense! I always thought there was like, only one antennae and many disks that weren't used, but now i understand it so much clearer!
00:03 - Seagate has launched innovative hard drive technology using heat-assisted recording.
01:19 - Seagate advances hard drive technology with new 32 TB drives.
02:29 - Microsoft's gaming strategies and TP Link's security concerns emerge at CES.
03:34 - Concerns over TPL Link devices used by state-sponsored hackers.
04:47 - Seagate introduces high-end tech products with impressive pricing.
05:59 - Seagate unveils innovations in tech and partnerships.
07:09 - Motorola faces US market ban due to patent disputes.
08:12 - Gift cards for Nebula provide access to exclusive educational content.
first video i seen from this channel. Fast, precise, bs free, and well edited. i subbed.
2:09 Gaming on Linux is already around as much of a "thing" as it could be.
Pretty much every decently-popular game which isn't primarily online and/or has intrusive anti-cheat already works.
On the other hand, games which do have intrusive anti-cheat will likely never come to Linux as the possibility that anything explicitly intended to enable kernel-level anti-cheat is practically impossible, even individual distros adding such functionality would be met with extreme backlash.
I wish that was true. But only game you are really guaranteed to play on Linux is gambling!
Because you never know if a game will work or not.
Even the Proton Database is a bit misleading in this regard.
I don't consider a game that technically runs, but displays everything without the correct lighting or shaders "working" on Linux.
I know this is a steep demand, but games on Linux do not only need to work, the need to work well!
There is no benefit pf using Linux over windows for the average person.
So Linux needs to be better than windows, than it can become mainstream
@@overflow7276 That's why I specified "Pretty much every decently-popular game", as generally a game with a big enough following will have patches made for it if possible, even for games with very major issues.
@@overflow7276with all due respect mate, that has not been my experience at all. I've been using linux exclusively for the past two years and literally every single game I tried to run ran perfectly. granted, I don't play a ton of online games, and the ones I do play don't have the kernel level anticheat. Every sjngleplayer game I tried runs well, that's more than good enough, for me at least.
All of the Linux distros need to work on interoperability & pick a standard for companies to develop against natively.
The array of binary file formats & package managers fighting each other is silly.
Commercial software should not be downloaded from the package managers.
Documentation needs to be human friendly.
Every distro should install from an ISO.
Very nice tech news update - This was exactly what I was looking for. (just a quick review of important news topics with a video under 10 minutes and has bookmarks to skip sections) Thank you so much. Adding this to my subscribe list!
You know, I know some people ask why anyone would want a gaming device that can play PC games but doesn't run Windows. But the fact is, I just loath Windows. So while I'm not big on handheld gaming (despite my only current gen console being a Switch). If Valve got somebody to make a 'steam box' that came with a controller, let me hook it up to my TV and let me download an play games that are intended for Windows but on hardware that doesn't require me to run Windows? Yeah, sign me up!
There’s solid evidence that Valve is planning a consolized PC, another Steam Machine. Check out Tyler McVicker.
You can put linux on a Switch
@@a-bombmori7393 and then play nothing because the Switch uses ARM and PCs use x86, it’s not only the OS that has to match
@@protocetid Okay, fair enough, I admit the architecture is obviously limiting, but I absolutely would not go so far as to say you can play "nothing". Saying that PCs use x86 is an oversimplification. There are non-apple computers that use arm, namely snapdragon based machines which are gaining some market share (Unless you consider a "PC" to use x86 by definition but that's a pretty archaic use of the term). I don't know how they would fair on linux, but the website Worksonwoa categorizes 1,288 games as either perfect or playable on arm machines running windows. And of course, there are games and emulators that are open source that you can compile yourself. You can look on TH-cam and see people playing games on a switch running linux. From what I've seen the biggest issue is performance more often than instruction set.
@@protocetid”and then play nothing because the Switch uses
ARM and PCs use x86”.
The most stupidest thing I’ve ever heard. By this dumb logic: No x68 games should even be able to be playable on the Steam Deck. Yet they do. The Deck isn’t even x86 but it’s in an ARM process…
Hey thank you guys for your work
This has been my go to Tech channel for the year
1:29 - how is SMR a "competing technology"?
It isn't really. I think SMR is a horrid technology but that's my opinion as a vid editor consumer. The giant data centres can use them and they're welcome to them as they can afford them and their complexity to manage. My view is that SMR is so complex one would be asking for trouble. Give me the 26TB Gold CMR drive any and every day of the week thank you! K.I.S.S - Keep It Simple Stupid - a great philosophy, methinks.
New to the channel. Interesting, straightforward tech stories presented in a factual, but not overly dry way, with no immature jokes. Instant subscribe. Love from England. 👍
Say what you want about spinning rust but having 12TB of dirt-cheap storage (paid just $100 each for 2 6TB drives) so that I can have my entire DVD collection along with my entire music library along with recording all my gameplay footage? Really enjoying that. Also great for my single player games where I don't need NVME speeds, all the classic games like the Bioshock series and all my boomer shooters really don't benefit from being on NVME so having all my favorite games ready to go when I have the urge to play them is quite nice.
@TheHangarHobbit Boomer shooters like ?
yup, same uses as me. storing stuff that doesn't need blazing fast speeds. honestly, also useful to use as a scratch disk for steam now that some games download a 1mb patch but move 200gbs of data around to patch that change into the files. making the HDD the scratch disk for that saves a lot of wear on the sdd (hdds don't really care much about how much you write to them)
@@GraveUypo I see that Ristar profile picture , why won't sega make a new one ? It would have been cool to see that franchise evolve alongside sonic since they had the same developer and similar art style on the megadrive
I was taken in by the title, I was hoping this was the development of magnetic resistant data storage - EMP's resistant for instance.
Wouldn't a Faraday cage work to protect your hardware?
@@asumazilla Great idea, only problem is carting one about with you everywhere you go. What happens if you are not at home in your Faraday box when something happens? I always felt the whole Faraday cage / box was a band aid to a bigger problem - useful when you need them granted, but only if you happen to have one at the time you need it.
I'd love it if maybe we'd get S-ATA 4 at some point... And if not, maybe consumer boards and drives that support SAS4
all well and good that we now have 32tb HDDs, but if their data interface keeps being so slow what's the point? Much more relevant for consumer ssds of course, but we're nevertheless already approaching that limit on HDDs, too. I see no reason why the only actually fast consumer ssds all have to use nvme
They'll probably use U.2 instead of SATA.
U2 is basically NVMe but with a wired connector instead of the M2 slot we are used to. NVMe is more of an open standard and uses PCIe.
@@thekakan Yeah, but consumer CPUs don't have the amount of PCIe lanes required for having 5-6 drives + 1 GPU + 1 other expansion card, unless we get something like a trimode hba card, and then we're back at where we're already at.
I also wish there were better cables for U.2 drives... My current boot drive is U.2 and my motherboard didn't have an Oculink connector and no open M.2 slots for an M.2=>Oculink adapter, so now my U.2 boot drive awkwardly sits in a PCIe x8 -> U.2 carrier card... And even if the motherboard had Oculink connectors, they don't come with power, so it's always an awkward cable with Sata-power and Oculink on one end and U.2 on the other...
Personally I'd love it if we just had SAS-4 for consumer drives, with proper cables and a proper SAS-4 controller embedded on the mainboard.
@@insu_na Now you have a business idea
Wow! Very good tech reporting with out all the fluff. Subscribed
I wonder what the write speed is on that 32TB HDD. If it's still only 100 - 200 MB/s you would have to write 2 - 4 days non-stop to fill one of those drives. That really limits the practical use cases for such a drive.
What no it wouldn't. I can fill it up with all my blu ray movies and TV shows for my plex server
@@TheScrubmuffin69 so you leave your PC running for half a week straight for that file transfer or let it run a whole week for half a day each day while away at work or something? Super annoying process. I use a bunch of 4TB SATA SSDs in my Plex server. They have come down so far in price that while still more expensive than HDDs not having to deal with HDD transfer speeds is absolutely worth it imo.
@@TheScrubmuffin69 Really the only home application use case where I see a 30+ TB HDD as a valid option is for security camera footage storage. You have a ton of data which you will probably/hopefully never have to actually access but it's there just in case. Also there's not much data that needs to be overwritten at any given time.
Yeah but that's just the first transfer in theory you don't read more than 1TB a day and never in one block of data if you're a normal user.
would be more interested in TB prices If HDD would Go down. WE are stuck with the same prices since years and services can t keep up with the ever growing demand of storage space.
How fast are these drives?
200Mb/sec same as existing HDD assemblies on SATA configuration...just drive densities have increased and data integrity improved...so basically for slow, large data bases or archive storage
SSDs: “look what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our power”
*price
How about you last more than 5 years and then we can talk
@@ade9597 shit hdd lasts longer?
@@Cheffamilyyep. SSD left unpowered will slowly lose charge in its cells leading to data corruption. HDDs don’t have this issue and do better with longterm cold storage.
@@Cheffamily way longer. If you want SSDs lasts even longer, don't shut down your computer. Just put it to sleep.
How much per TB are those drives? A bit of important detail left out.
Yep, useless without that bit of info.
Explaining to dogs, quite NVIDIA
@rk-ytbe We are the dogs , Jensen taking the piss an counting his money as soon as the camera turns off lol
Will this HDD tech be available for general consumers at smaller size!? And what do you think about the pricing?
I was a little confused by the 32gb Thumbnail :)
it's supposedly fixed now.
Why? Typos have been possible and around sing Caxton and Guttenberg.
How does this new tech affect bit rot?
It doesn't. It will still be a thing. HDDs aren't the only component that can cause bit rot.
Laser = CD player = goes bad after a few years.
Will these hard drives die faster?
Absolutely not. First generations of completely new technologies are renowned for their dependability. I recommend using a single one of these drives as your sole long term backup strategy. 👍👍👍
Does it ONLY have a 1 year limited warranty like all their other current products? If so then I don't care how many TB's it has, if they expect it to break in less then a year.
why does thumbnail has 32 "GB" instead of 32 "TB" ??
it's fixed now.
About those space savings. They also make SMR drives because it delivers more space cheaper and the side effect is performance drops to around 10% of a normal CMR drive and you can't even tell as they won't even write on the label which one you have. Toshiba performs even worse.
Sir u r doing awesome work.
Your update is the only calming voice thing. Everything else in media feels anxious and needy.
Price man where is price?!!!
I'm not sure if the price has been announced yet
I remember seagate reinvented the hard drive years ago and after that we haven't heard anything since but now I'm glad that they brought it back.
Don't rip that seek time / rotational latency optimized data storage read/write code out of the Linux Kernel just yet!
And I just bought a bunch of 18tb drives. They really need to quit charging such an outrageous premium on drives over 18tb, which I feel is still currently the sweet spot. I suppose at least these higher capacity drives means I'll be getting many more years use out of my filled NAS boxes.
Seagate....mindblowing tech! 🎉
I'm confused, I saw this video and decided to search more info and all I'm getting is news articles from a year ago saying they've just started shipping 30TB+ HAMR drives to partners. So what is different about this news today? Everything in the year old articles says the same stuff as this video
32TB. Damn. Seagate still kicking good.
TP-link is like the Temu version of D-Link.
0:31 lets try this again, H-A-M-R, Maybe hammer? xD I think that was the point.
So Seagate's next generation Hard Disk Drives (HDD) will have read and write as fast or maybe even faster than Solid-state Drives (SSD) than the previous generations' HDDs ?
will they have they same bad life time like burned disc's?
Tp link in Danger❌
Tp link is Danger✅
pretty sure you used a tp-link router to post this comment 😂
@@farhanrejwan I don't know about him, but sure as heck I did😁
@@Dac_DT_MKD I even bought one for my quest 3, exactly today....
@@farhanrejwan Reporting for duty, sir.
No affiliate link for the airtag thing?
It's a shame the hard drive will likely be insanely expensive. if consumer drives had that tech for a reasonabe price it would be groundbreaking.
Time capsule it idiotic. The whole point of airtags are that its tiny. If you want something better just get a rechargable via USB-c card which is super slim as well.
SSDs are on the rise, makes sense to not bring it for consumers right away.
might eventually happen in the future tho.
@@farhanrejwan Give it time. 16TB nearly halved in priced where I live since last year.
@@penumbrum3135 yes i know, that's why i said it might eventually happen. and it can't 'happen' without the price dropping too.
A friend of mine was researching something regarding lasers at Western Digital back at around 2007-2008.
So that laser stuff could have pretty long history.
Seagate 32 TB HDD: So much heat will deform the platters helped by the centrifugal forces, also make them in general hot and to bend down by Gravity; to compensate this: the platters should have slopes of material towards the center, giving them strength and durability, and slightly more surface for more data.
your thumbnail read "32GB" not TB
Great video! So good to see this one has so many views!
65% of home and small business market share!!!! HOME and SMALL BUSINESS!
And yeah ... they found out firmware is hard to write!!! I recommend everybody to watch any documentary about the Chinese Exclusion Act to learn how this is not new. Further reading: Richard Hofstadter's "The Paranoid Style in American Politics" published in 1965 - only 23 years after Roosevelt removed the Chinese Exclusion Act.
What is the introductory cost for 32 TB, and what kind of Read/Write speeds? Also, what is the MTBF? I mean when they first introduced SSD's they were not very reliable.
Steam Machines are coming back!!!! LESGOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
I am hoping these 32TB drives will push more large drives on the second hand/ refurb market. Been living well on those for years. Got a few trusted sources and they been giving me cheaper drives that last longer than some new ones I have bought. Anything 20TB plus will be great. I got a 10TB nearly 1000 days of on time. Would like to swap it to external use and replace it with a different drive on my main computer.
Wtf are yall putting on 10tb drives. I got one 2tb SSD and one 5TB HDD. All my steam games, wow, league, diablo, poe and barely used over 3 TBs total. That includes various videos that I upload on my channel And all 1k+ music.
"Nanophotonic" LMAO
You mean regular lasers then?
But now with smaller photons, not the regular big ass ones :)
will those hard drives be faster than the old ones?
Yes.
@@brianhoward9217 but not by much (and not that SMR one)
Is the family OK in Syria
Thankfully yes!
This looks like the tech behind the MiniDisk.
*Us older PC nerds know this isn't new technology. They just made a hybrid technology between HDD and CD-RW / DVD-RW technology.*
Ok, but it's not like the two different technologies can have an offspring. They had to develop a new technology using elements from both.
I wonder what the write time will be on these drives. I do a ton of multi-TB backups, and NVMe are still too expensive (too bad as the speed is delicious)
If we could match the 6Gps from the standard controler, that would be best. It's painful to do backups at 100-200 MBps.
Looking for forward to try one when they become available to the public.
It doesnt matter. Just that ''screech, click, screech'' sound is enough to put you off, let alone caring where that darn needle is gonna land in case of a blackout.
hard drives do an emergency park when it loses power. also anything with flash memory kills itself when it loses power lol.
Back in 2010 people were beginning to say hard drives were on their last legs due to SSD's getting bigger and better, but it seems hard drives are still getting better too.
The hard disk manufacturers really can't think of anything better than squeezing ever higher capacities into 3.5 inch housings and leaving everything else as it is. No (new) SSHDs, no HHDs with more than one actuator (higher speed and IOPS) and no support for NVMe 2.0.
@Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section Now you have a business idea
buy enterprise grade hhds then
@@bottering_one Have you even looked into the costs associated with a hard disk with a SAS port, for example? - If so, you wouldn't even suggest such nonsense.
will the tp link ban also effect wifi adapter cause I got one for christmas
How much of the things being said about TP Link is Propaganda? They said the same thing about DJI and Byte Dance aka Tim Tok! Their efforts are more aimed towards US manufacturers gaining unfair, Government Sponsored Advantages.
The seagate tech has some spritual similarity to how MiniDiscs worked back in the day. Using lasers to free up magnetic recording. Nice!
If Nintendo does not reinvent. This might be their last year of generations Console.
TP-Link needs to be Programmable to OpenWRT
@JoseAlba87 Nintendo isn't relevant to this video but maybe
Good. Good., They can go out like SEGA. Stop releasing ancient hardware.
It would take at least three continuous days of writing to a 32 TB drive at 100 MB/s to fill it. It would also take about that long to find the file you put in there using Windows search.
How do the compare for Reliability to traditional hdds?
Why would you have a transparent TV? That seems the opposite of OLED strength, the deep black level. Is the hard disk related to previous magneto optical technology? I wonder if the lifetime of that laser can be any good. They still marked it as SMR instead of something else. I'd think the laser would erase a relatively big patch.
write & read speed? are they improved
"unnamed cloud provider" = Backblaze I imagine
I really never thought HAMR laser HDD’s would work irl, it’s so complicated and like magic.
I wonder what the read/write speeds will be of those new HDs, and the pricing of course. But they might be really good for mass storage indeed. Time will show how long they last etc.