Saladin & the 3rd Crusade | Next King of Jerusalem | Middle East History | Extra History | Part 6
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- 📜 History of Saladin & the 3rd Crusade: The Next King of Jerusalem
King Baldwin IV is in a bit of a pickle. He's dying of leprosy, but unfortunately, there are very few options for a suitable successor. There are Sibylla, his sister, and his nephew, Baldwin V. There's Guy de Lusignan, the first cousin to the King Henry II of England and married to Sibylla. And then there's Raynald of Chatillon, a noble pirate (of sorts). And all of them are vying to be the next king of Jerusalem. You know, while it's under siege in the middle of a crusade.
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This feels like a good time to remember the quote that goes "the difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense."
Dayum that's right
Also know as "Can't make up this crap".
Crudades in fiction: epic clash between two powerfull religion.
Reality: fells nore like a brawl between drunken men that happen to have the worst luck possible.
After 2020 i never goin to say that a movie is unrealistic...
Truth is stranger than fiction
Game of thrones: I am complicated
Third crusade: hold my holy water
Something that always interested me is that Game of Thrones is actually incredibly simple by necessity of story compared to the periods of history it's trying to emulate.
In reality if GoT was in the high medieval period each great lord would have 20 cousins and uncles and nephews each trying to gain advantage over the other, and the fealty relationships of the great lords and the other lords wouldn't be anywhere near as neat. The lords of each place wouldn't even live in that place, nor would they ever be sure how many other nobles and men they could count on the support of. It's all just politicking around the capital.
@@HansenDing Those borders would also be a lot more messy. The frey's betrayal would have been predictable. Bran ruling a united kingdom would be unlikely.
@@rsync9490 understatement of the year
Who mentioned that fiction has to make sense?
This is basically a free dlc expansion of the Third Crusade series
Hi I have to wait 90 days to change my name...
[edit]: Don’t get mad at me because I said hi.
But this is worth about 5 dollars
Third Crusade: Heart of Sand
so how many days until the name changes?
Hey you can def change your name by now
Ah, the french Anakin "I hate sand" Skywalker.
1. Love the show.
2. In fairness, seems like he was the smartest person involved. "Hmm... No thanks, this place is way to sandy, I'm going back to France."
All thing considered he will be the one entangled by successions ploy and killed by infighting if he decided to stay lol
Anaeouxquinault Esquiaeuxweaukeuere
use the proper French spelling!
"Died from eating too much mullet" gotta admit that's certain a unique way to go
Really. A lot of kings in the Dark Ages died like this.
@@kamanashiskar9203 Compared to the leprosy, malaria, and assassins it's certainly unique in this video
Doesn't sound implausible. A relative of mine nearly died from too much wonton soup and ended up hospitalized from excessive sodium.
@@kimarous I can't believe that's still happening today
@@kamanashiskar9203 Didn't the Dark Ages ended with Charlemagne's Frankish Empire?
This really is better than Game of Thrones. All of these succession crisis is basically The war of Five kings with Saladin taking the role of the big bad Dragon lord ready to swoop in and take the land anyway
well the idea had to come from somewhere i guess
@@Genesis23OPB Game of Thrones actually has a lot in common with the English succession crisis known as the War of the Roses.
also a lot shorter
@@zEr-ne5riwith good ending lol
@@jguinto101 That makes sense kind of at least didn’t ruin the characters motivation
Ah, the island of Cypress. Not to be confused with the island of Yew.
Don’t forget birch!
And all four Pine Islands in the US.
Yew jealous
Is that part of the Langerhans islets?
Hmmm, and not to be confused with the isle of oak...
Saladin has big protagonist energy while Baldwin is like that one very memorable side character who actually only has very few scenes in canon but the fandom disproportionately loves.
Meanwhile, the rest of the cast is instead in a Monty Python skit.
I like both of them. And would like to know a bit more about Baldwin.
Literally, "I am your king!" "Well I didn't vote for you!"
I mean Baldwin defeated Saladin when he was only 16 and continued to fight in battles despite losing the use of one arm and then gradually his whole body to leprosy. Dude is a badass. I think the love is justified.
Baldwin is that character soOP that he had to be nerfed so the main character could reach his goal.
@@napoleonbuonaparte8975they had to nerd him with leper and still fought with one arm leading the charge
People: Louis is the most French name
Henri of champagne: hold my champagne
No, it's "tiens mon champagne 🥂" 😉😂
He was the Duke of Champagne, France.
@@kamanashiskar9203 yes, and I talked in french 🤨
@@kamanashiskar9203 Count, not Duke.
Henri
This sounds more like a disastrous game of CK3
I think you mean an epic one.
Well... CRUSADER Kings *3*, THIRD CRUSADE
I love a quote from David Sirota that while not perfectly applicable to Medieval rule and royal politics, still has the same vibe
"Everyone think's politicians are playing 3D chess, when the truth is, they're mostly playing Dice"
To quote Mark Twain, “Truth is stranger than fiction, but it is because Fiction is obliged to stick to possibilities; Truth isn't.”
I thought sybella survived the siege of Jerusalem and went on to live happily ever after with Orlando Bloom.
Sorry only in the movies
Funny story, the historian they hired to advise when making the movie wanted his name removed from the credits because of how much he thought they butchered history and ignored what he suggested.
@@89Dienekes lol
@@89Dienekes What movie?
@@89Dienekes No, that was Gladiator. Kingdom of Heaven is actually pretty good at compressing events that happened in the 50 years prior to the movie into the 3 years it's taking place in. It's a good compromise between historical accuracy and entertainment.
Imagine if Assassin's Creed 1 didn't end on a cliffhanger, and like the Ezio trilogy, actually explored the entire events of the Third Crusde in a series of sequels. Holy heck, that would have been amazing...
they could still go back, though. Following someone like Altair's sons as the pc.
What should be the title?
@@shashwatsinha2704 assassin's creed the lost chronicles
@@brentbottoms2876 That sounds actually good.
@@brentbottoms2876 now thats a name for a goog game
I love how Raynold basically does the medieval equivalent to, "That sounds like a YOU problem." It's proof that sometimes modern thought processes can come from sometimes very ancient sources.
Honestly, every second of the Crusades is just wondering “what is the dumbest possible outcome?”
And then seeing exactly how people choose the dumbest possible outcome.
"A musical chairs game of annulled marriages" So eloquently put. So accurate.
Until now, I'd never automatically had Benny Hill theme music pop into my head when thinking about the Crusades
I mean, the first crusade was pretty damn zany if you like dark humor about things that actually happened. Benny Hill might not be the right track, but there's definitely some comedy drowning under all that blood.
Henry didnt murder the archbishop. at least not himself. Its that both Henry and the Archbishop of Cantebury were rivals. and when he said in front of some barons the quote "Won't someone get rid me of this meddlesome priest", they tought he said he wants him dead. And that's what the barons themsleves did
I mean it's a running joke about the Plantagenet that people die around them and then they go "Oh nooo, I did nooot want this to happen......"
How did the line go?
"I said take care of him, no 'take care of him'.
@@grayscribe1342 Reminds me of that Mitchell and Webb sketch, with the needlessly ambiguous super villain.
@@linkofvev I was from 'The 51st State' (2001)
Blackadder
0:26 I definitely had a succession crises worse than this in Crusader Kings. I think everyone does lol
Is either you die and the kingdom splitting or double the realm by inherited a whole kingdon
I remember i managed to recover the Spanish peninsula and unified the christian kingdoms under Castille, but my character died, and my genius son took the crown and 1 mont later he died in a "hunting accident" and the stupid son toom the throne, the nobles, smelling blood in the water demanded the succetion law to be changed from primogeniture to gavelkind, i had to concede. Well the king died and his son acquired the kingdom of Castille and the peninsula fractured in small competing kingdoms.
In my newest run, i played as navarra and my son became heir of france and navarra. After the king died, a decade long regency happened. 9 months before coming of age, the son got stabbed by his sister. This sister then kills her other sister's son (because this son inherited the kingdom of navarra). this son's mother then inherited the throne of navarra after her son and the murderous sister inherited France. The murderous sister then got deposed and the other son of the queen of navarra became the ruler of france. This neatly ends with the death of the queen of navarra and the unification of navarra and france.
@@abelardodelatorresolis3966 cursed that you called the iberian peninsula spanish peninsula
your now the most hated man in portugal xD
Nah, I always embrace celibacy IMMEDIATELY after having an heir.
This seems like a game of thrones within game of thrones
The lightning round felt more like Looney Tunes than GoT
Game of Thrones could *never*
In other words, Inception meets GoT
Whereas the vanilla game of thrones would be played between Richard's great-great-great-great-grandnephews. I'm starting to think succession crises get more tame with the progress of history.
Don't forget the fact that a dude fell out of a tower 🤣
When looking at history, we can't view people, kingdoms, or factions as a singular force, everyone has their own goals, beliefs, and desires.
and everyone is an agent of chaos EVERYONE
I want to know if Longsword’s “longsword” is truly long.
His longsword was probably average… that’s not a euphemism… two handed swords weren’t developed yet. So swords were of the one handed arming sword variety.
@@CollinMcLean ok boomer, you didnt even get the joke
Not as long as my Bread-erik
I’m disappointed this wasn’t:
A) Called “Crusader Kings”
B) Packed with Paradox jokes
shame, very much a missed opportunity
C) Sponsored by Paradox
@@allium2718 they really should get a paradox sponsorship
@@lasttarrasque6223 Didn't they do sponsored videos for them before? or was that just for total war?
Diplomacy 69
Baldwin IV, aka, Edward Norton in the ultimate "Oh, yeah that was him!" role in Kingdom Of Heaven.
WTF....IT WAS EDWARD NORTON?
WTF
@@diegokaqui60 Exactly.
Saladin’s adventures were so awesome even the DLC is as complicated as the Ptolemaic family tree.
Was his impact overstated? His dynasty died a generation later and the christians would go on to reconquer jerusalem after his death during the 5th Crusade then later the Baron's Crusade (albeit until Baibars pops up).
@@mjhilps Historically, the impact of the direct political/military actions he took weren't incredibly influential. However, I would argue that much like Dracula or King Arthur, his influence as a modern mythohistorical figure makes the stories of his life incredibly important (not to mention that he is one of the few pre-modern historical figures with a major reputation for fairness, charity, and respect for different peoples [with glaring exceptions of course]). Ultimately, he is awesome because his legend and generosity both left an impact bigger than if he had solely achieved those political ambitions.
@@mjhilps well the fifth crusade was cruchingly defeated, the 7 crusade led by louis of french the most powerfull monarch of western Europe in the 13 century was cruchingly defeated and Louis himself was captured France lost a massive treasures of taxes they collecte for 6 year to bring that army and they pay a massive ransom to the ayyubids who were in décline but still defeated western most powerfull monarch louis they set him free when they take an massive ransom, they still defeated the crusaders in the battle of la forbie they created a ferocious elite force the mamluks who including Baibars who will wiped out crusades prescence in the holy lands and defeated the mongols being one of the few states who defeated the mongols, so yeah
@@egriz4461 and then britain made the entire middle east their bitch amd the usa did the same
You have many guys wanting to be the next King of Jerusalem: So that means somebody is about to get hurt
'Somebody gonna get hurt real bad' - Russell Peters
I can't help but feel like this crusade would make a pretty great board game.
Anybody else imagining Saladin eating popcorn while watching all this royal drama?
Because I sure am! HahahaxD
He had his own barons to worry about.
@@robertjarman3703 not as this problem
@@Mohammadkwt then u Dont know how saladin mustard a army at the 1st place. Let along how he become a Sultan.
@@Katwithan.C was a breeze compared to this, for sure.
Everyone: The crusades were a totally religious war!
The christian rulers: Yeah...religious... 😶
For legal reasons... Yes
yesn't
@@evershumor1302 For tax purposes this is a religious war
The Crusades were very religious actually
@@maxion5109 religion themed*
Guys, don't think we don't notice what you were doing there with that Longsword animation 😉
It's so great
He's only polishing his longsword
7:58 missed opportunity to draw them in white robes and with hidden blades
I thought this was only in fiction
Yeah, very missed opportunity.
@@juancarlosdegoya2757 I mean the assassins creed look is, but EH is known for adding little tidbits like that in.
@@juancarlosdegoya2757 Yes, but an Assassin’s Creed reference is perfectly in line with EH’s sense of humor and love of sight gags. Especially since EC is primarily a game design channel.
When in the Holy Land during the crusades, never trust a guy called Reynald.
Bribes and being sneaky apparently gets you far
Pissing Saladin off, not so much.
Extra History: talks about great monarchs and what they achieved for ~70% of their videos
Also Extra History: “also maybe monarchy was a bad idea”
I believe the key problem was always about succesion, I mean they made on why primogenitery was the method of succesion for most of history, as the frankish method basically broke any empires born too soon and led to many wars
Still has a better track record than democracies.
@@prestonjones1653 the usa when:
@@prestonjones1653 Since when?
Man Baldwin was probably the most kind nice and trusted man in that time I mean he drove off an army by just haveing a word or two with a man like him which was Saladin he really was the most kind king
Now imagine how much content there could be covering the absolutely bonkers amount of court intrigue within the history of the Byzantium court.
8:17 don't worry I'll save you! SPLAT
I love watching saladin as the looming threat while they're bickering between themselves in this episode lol
4:00 that visual of diposing was the best
Damn this is a mess even the assassins are involved 😂😂
Saladin seems like a real legit awesome dude. Someone you would want on your side. Someone you can trust.
Do one about Timur!
@Sebres Ludolf He was à monster, but he is normally forgotten as a relevant historical figure and I think would be cool to see extra history on him.
Huh, it's almost like the Kings of Jerusalem were cursed by God after the 1st Crusade massacred everyone in the city a century earlier... Perhaps...
Nah, they were petty drama queens who didn't understand how diseases spread, God didn't need to help that along. He never normally does...
@@diranbodossian6061 True enough. But there are enough moments that do give one pause to wonder though...
Well, that and punishment for breaking or sidestepping the oath to Alexios.
Note that the king in question here is BALDWIN IV...
The kingdom survived for 88 years and another more century. I don't think so.
...The Saladin series, and this episode, should've been sponsored by Paradox, and their Crusader Kings games...
Ending of a series is sad but the promise of new thrilling history next week will always put a smile on my face
Fun isn't something one considers when learning history...
But this does put a smile on my face.
I couldn’t agree with you more
i love how the most normal sentence in this video is
"the Holy Roman Emperor drowned in a river, so he didn't get a vote."
GOD : " How am i suppose to play when this game is so broken ? "
This episode is like a medieval “Who’s On First?”!
My understanding is that Leopold V of Austria also had been personally insulted by Richard, and that also played a big role in the capture and ransom. Apparently, after the successful siege at Acre, the leaders of the various armies put up their personal banners indicating that they had won- and Richard tore down Leopold's since Leopold was just a duke and not a proper king like Richard, Philip, and Guy. Leopold was so angry that he immediately quit the crusade and was back in Austria before the year ended.
"My words were taken out of context" Henry II about the Becket thing.
I remember when one of my uni professors pointed out that the Crusades weren't solely about religion, but power, and several people lost their minds.
8:25
Guy's Brother would have been killed by the salmon mousse anyways
How is he died from eating food
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well ^^
I know y’all are pressed for time with these but seriously give Sibylla some credit! The deal she made to secure her throne was that she would annul her marriage to Guy on the condition that she had full control over who she married next once she became queen. THEN she remarried Guy. She didn’t go back on any promises and showed herself to be quite politically savvy. I respectfully demand this be handled in the Lies episode!
The clause in the will was just genius.
Isabella wasn't the widow of Conrad's brother, Sibylla was the widow of Conrad's brother, Marquis William.
Soooooo, all these nobles are fighting over a crown while Saladin is hanging out in the background like "So, are you guys going to fight me or what?"
"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest!" as the quote goes.
This would make an awesome asymmetric board game, one person plays as Saladin: looking to stall until the end of the game, to defeat the Crusaders and stop them from taking Jerusalem, and to encourage internal bickering amongst the Crusader factions.
The rest play as Crusader Kings each vying for the throne of Jerusalem and getting extra points for various things like leading successful battles, holding other crusader states, and dying the least often (players come back as the heirs to their throne)
There is a really good AOE2 campaign focused on Saladin. He has to essentially stall the crusaders and hold Jerusalem.
When are we going over that Gag of "Prayer Unknown: Holygrounds"? :)
“I am Jerusalem.”
-King Baldwin, maybe, but still badass
_"GOD WILLS IT!"_
_"Sire? this other guy say's he's king"_
_"GOD WILLS IT!"_
Please give us a history of the domestication of the horse series!
Or just all do.estication
It's not Crusader Kings until there's enough intrigue over the throne to make Tywin Lannister or the salarians proud.
Basically, a normal game of Crusader Kings.
Dude this video fits really good with the Crusades we currently do, thus it is really good for me to finish my task a lot faster with this extra information! Thank you guys for sharing knwoledge.
I honestly think that Friedrich Barbarossa (the one who drowned) deserves his own series. Interesting guy.
Also Monarchy is not a bad idea, especially if you're a monarch ;)
Seen a much worse succession crisis in CK3
Another crusader story extra credits is on a roll👏🏾
When crusader saw any town or village...
"It's free real estate"
All of these Crusaders sound like they’ve fallen into greed, which is never a good thing.
Greed ruins everything, including friendship.
Matt: Maybe monarchy was a bad idea
The UK: *Has the same problem like this but this time Representative Democracy Addition and its offspring were Brexit*
The UK: Am I a joke to you!?
Your words are confusing, what are you saying actually? You mean UK monarchy still a bad idea or actually not a bad idea?
Cant wait for the 4th crusade
7:47 Surely you mean Cyprus?
Yeah they will probably mention this in lies if Rob talkes about this One Off. But maybe he wont talk about this episode so idk
King Baldwin deserves his own series!
So many dumb ways to die.
that's exactly what I've thought
Now you got that song in my head.
Oh that song
Dumb ways to die so many dumb ways to die!
This could have been a Crusader Kings 2 AAR.
You should make the history of the crusades a series. Maybe starting with the 2nd crusade?
Hi. I am a viewer from Iran and I'm loving your videos sorry I can't support you in anyways but thank you for all the efforts you put towards you're videos .
Always a good time for a new video.
This makes me want to play Crusader Kings, such a great game.
This was awesome. Feels like it would be interesting to have this story retold from the women's perspective (e.g. Isabelle).
Love seeing the new videos come up
Gotta love your cat...my students love it...I use your shows as an introduction to lessons. TY
Please do the history/significance/ or historical events on the Atlantic Ocean
Damn. A free dlc.
Neat.
"The crown was left to" - famous last words
Thank you for video sir
💐💐💐👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
And here i thought game of throne's politics was confusing
8:18 IM SORRY WHAT?!?!
hmmm... if someone falls off a window don´t go after him...?
indeed a delicious video, extra credits, stop being the best channel on youtube !
Thank you to the patrons. with out you, I wouldn't have learned any of this cool info.
2:10 "longsword"
... they really went there, didn't they?
Didn't the pope get a vote?
Yes but he teneded to be bribed or kidnapped by the french or Austrians.
I think he inconveniently chose to die instead of heart attack, after hearing about some defeat.
Gregory viii died not long after his election
This was a crazy and out of control story, and very entertaining to watch!
i haven’t watched you guys in so long i missed thissssss
Well...that escalated quickly. It’s always cool to learn about this stuff since infighting is more often than not the way most large colonial empires fell. Just having people actively working against the crown within the court caused enough problems to cause the state to fail after a long enough period of time. The Turks would see this as well during the Ottoman Empire.
I like how in medieval times marrying your former sister-in-law counts as incest and is frowned upon but cousin marriage isn't
Well, cousin marriage wasn't incest but were prohibited. During the 11th and 12th century, close cousin was prohibited so rulers have to marry distant relatives. However, this was only ecclesiastically law and dispensation by the pope was allow.
Cousin marriage was also prohibited in the Middle Ages. In order for a noble to marry his cousin, he would have to seek permission from the pope himself.
It's not incest it's the usual biblical bollocks. There's a verse that says if you marry your brothers ex, the marriage is cursed and childless (which could make a kind of sense because if one bro infertile the other is more likely to be firing blanks - among other reasons for infertility - one including unusual blood proteins if I remember).
Releasing Guy may have been the smartest thing Saladin ever did. Guy in prison was no use to anyone, but Guy free caused more trouble among the crusaders than Saladin could have done himself.
Conrad's Jerusalem body pillow...
I can't even...
I want one.