“The enemy of Rome shall fall on this day.” Ah, sweet, delicious loopholes. Edit: It's been 8 months and no one has figured out that I referenced another Extra History episode
Similar to what the Oracle at Delphi told Croesus king of Lydia in around 550 B.C. when he asked should he attack the Persian Empire. The Oracle said "If Croesus goes to war he will destroy a great empire." He never thought the Great Empire that would be destroyed would be his own
If religious stories have taught you anything, learn this: if a god sends you a message that could in some way be interpreted as "you die," assume the god is saying you will die
@@rufushale8612 I just don't love the focus on heroes and less on military strategy. I am also a big history person and the Warhammer games don't really appeals to me, though I am sure they are wonderful for some people.
@@cirthador1453 Which one of the historical games had a focus on heroes? I think only Three Kingdoms and Troy. Warhammer isn't historical so it's fine there and I guess you acknowledge that but have a little grudge on the effort that went into those games instead of historical ones. And that's totally fine..
I can't begin to describe how much this channel has helped me through tough times, I am autistic and I absoloutely LOVE history your videos on the punic wars is what sparked my interest I am so happy that you guys still make the videos, I truly enjoy every bit of content you put out. Much love Denmark!
"And Constantine will not even allow his enemy's memory to survive. He order Maxentius's name struck off every building he built, including the great basilica above the forum." So he decided to cancel Maxentius.
@@QwertiusMaximus He's doing his own thing. (His channel, without his voice being altered so it's not so high pitched, is "New Frame Plus".) He also apparently spent some time working for Pixar Canada before the company shut it down, so now he seems to be just doing New Frame Plus full time.
I am here to publicly acknowledge and thank the OG TRIO Daniel Floyd, James Portnow, and Allison Theus for being the progenitors of Extra Credits and Extra History. It is THEIR work that got Creative Assembly's interest and support.
Ok just today, it was reported that a finger found in the Louvre was reunited with a statue of Constantine hundreds of miles away in Rome, the finger had been mislabelled as a toe.
When I was originally told this story in catholic school, my teachers said they painted crosses on their shields. But here, you explicitly say the Chi Rho . Now googling the difference between them, as they're kinda the same, but not really, but maybe.
Yeah like that one is really fucking obvious. I think there's a Greek myth of a leader being told "a great kingdom will fall after this battle" and then he acts aggressively and his kingdom is the one that falls
@@AbsolXGuardian It's not a myth, that was during Cyrus The Great's early conquests. Persia was growing, and the King of Lydia wanted to conquer it, so he consulted a oracle who told him that if he attacked the persians, he would destroy a great empire. So he went to war, and lost, and Persia took the entirety of his kingdom over.
Technically, the Roman oracle would not be wrong with the "Tomorrow, the enemy of Rome would die tomorrow" regardless whomever won. Knowing that history is always written from the point of the victor, it's just a matter of one of the belligerents would have to die to fill that prophesy. If Maxentius won, then the Oracle can claim that Constantine was the enemy. And if he lost and died, anyone looking to get revenge for the prophesy can be shown that Maxentius was the enemy. It's only a problem should Maxentius lost but lived. Pretty sneaky.
What about his predecessor and boss Claudius Gothicus? He crushed the Goths (with Aurelian's help) at Naissus, which made Aurelian's job much easier when he succeeded him a few years later.
@@petergray7576meh, the empire would have collapsed before either of them got into power if gallienus wasn't able to save the empire from complete collapse after edessa
Thank You Creative Assembly more than I can express for bringing back the prime Extra Credits. Also, Thank You Extra Credits for still being here with your excellent content and abilities that helps everyone benefit from it.
Elizabeth Marlowe has a fascinating article on Constantine imagery during this period, and that his arch in the forum may actually frame the helios statue, which is linked to the Sun God imagery that was very popular at the time!
MY cat Cairo was very interested in you saying her name during this episode, or so she thought every time you said CHI RO. You've mentioned the city of Cairo before but only ever once per episode. Hearing it repeated caught her attention. She came to stare at the speakers.
This is a very refreshing episode of EH, fittingly very similar to much older episodes, a nice, exciting educational story to serve as an escape from the problems of today's society. I feel like too many EH episodes are supposed to remind us of the ethical problems we have today. There should be a balance between episodes that reflect on today and other episodes designed to relax the viewer with educational stories of the past. This is a step in the right direction...
This story always takes me back to Third year late Roman History with Dr Wilkinson at university of Toronto. Not least having to remember the list of emperors from Constantine through to Romulus(long forgotten by me).
I love this channel so much that as strange as it sounds, I don't jump in to listen right away because I want to find a time and place where I have no other distractions.
@@hurgcat Me too. I often find myself watching EH series more than once, not just to reaffirm the info in them, but because they often help to contextualize one another, so I will get more out of a given series after seeing another one and rewatching the first one with the new info in mind.
I found your channel through Vlogging Through History reaction videos. I cannot believe that I hadn't seen your channel until now. I am so happy to have your entire catalogue to watch for the foreseeable future. Thanks for the great content.
Sad but true. Dont get me wrong i love this channel and the old one. But school just never got it interesting for me. I'd rather (and chose to) learn on my own time
There's nothing like that one for the feeling of looking for an old episode to rewatch because you're obsessed, stumbling across this one and going hey I don't think I've seen this one how did I miss it? And then realizing you beat your subscriptions to it and found it before you got the alert LOL
Because of how this show started and because of why this episode came to be, they should have asked Dan if he wanted to come back to the show 1 last time for this episode.
I actually have a Roman coin of Maxentius that was seemingly minted as part of his propaganda initiatives before the battle. It was found by a friend of my dad’s who runs a local port while dredging up the harbor and must have been buried underwater for centuries! By far one of my most treasured items!
I remember being a big TW fan excited for the Rome 2 release seeing a video shared through the Total War FB page about the Punic Wars. I've never missed an episode since. It's amazing to go back full circle with another email from CA.
One of the fascinating things about Constantine is that his favoring of Christianity really came as "Romanness" was failing as a way of holding the empire together, so shifting the focus from "Rome" to "Christ" was a very shrewd way of shifting to an identity that would maintain cohesion in the face of the wildly disparate cultural identities that Rome had been trying to hold together. The hold on the individual cultures to a monolithic shared identity could relax, while a monolithic religious identity that favored and welcomed conversion became the load-bearing support that held the empire together. There's a series of books by Susan Weiss Bauer that really does a good job of stitching together history, History of the Ancient World, Medieval World, and Renaissance. What I like about them is that it puts what's going on in the different regions in the world into a good, understandable context picture. They're not short by any means, but if you're alright with that, they're worth reading (or listening to on Audible like I did XD)
Minor thing but i always found it interesting that the younger emperor was a Ceaser and the senior emperor was an Augustus despite Julius Ceaser being the senior of Augustus
Love extra credits, always excited for a new episode!! Still excited for part 4 of Jewish pirates!! I feel as though after watching, just about every extra history video, I am a more educated and understanding person. God bless the extra history team!! Making the world a more educated, and less biased place, one episode at a time!!
Damn, crazy how I found this channel all those years ago from the first extra history sponsorship, and now we're here again, sponsored by the same company for the same game for more roman history.
So, as a quality of life improvement for this show, I would like it if you included a full bibliography in your video descriptions of the sources you use, it would really help aspiring amateur historians (such as myself) to know where the information you're giving us is coming from
I love that the old art style was brought back for this series
It's due to David's amazing work!
Totally agree
Same!
I love that style
I much prefer it
Don't forget he did the smartest thing an emperor have ever done and dissolved the Praetorian guards
🦀🦀🦀PRAETORIA DELENDA EST🦀🦀🦀
CALIGVLA, GALBA, PERTINAX, CARACALLA, ELAGABALVS, GALLIENVS, AVRELIAN, and PROBVS can finally rest in peace.
But without the Praetorian Guards, who shall as... protect the emperor?
What why? They only killed.. like a few emperors.... and was bribed to select the new one.... just a copple of times..... i dont see the issue.
@@yonokhanman654, the Palatini, Excubitors, and the Varangians, who were all far more reliable than the "Praetorian Guard".
Oracle: "The enemy of Rome shall perish."
The guy everyone hates: "That's not cryptic at all. My victory is assured!"
You left out the most important part: Constantine proclaimed that the Praetorian guard would be *ABOLISHED*
Praetoriae Delenda Est
Dovahhatty negrusjanny est
truly the arbiter of god.
*Techno hallelujah blares*
Yes, Dovahhatty reference!
Constantine: 'I have received a divine message from God'
Soldiers: 'Awesome! Which one?'
Constantine: 'Yes'.
"The ennemy of Rome will perish"
Technically, it's a civil war, whoever lose that war was the ennemy of Rome :p
Such is the way of history
Welcome to oracles guide to "not begin put to death by false prophecies"
Caesar- Shhh detail mestail
So basically the oracle was just predicting a decisive battle.
You must be a genius
"As he finished the crossing, Constantine's army appeared in the distance... and Maxentius could not believe what he saw." - Dovahhatty
Is it a bird?
Is it a plane?
No... It's Emperor Constantine!
and so Constantine proclaimed
that the praetorian guard
will
be
abolished!!!
@@Salty-Doggy
Remember this...
*PRAETORIAE DELENDA EST*
Really didn't expect a video on Roman history today, but I'm loving it!
when i saw it i was like HELL YEAH
@Soumyadeep Chatterjee Roman history didn't end until 1475.
“The enemy of Rome shall fall on this day.”
Ah, sweet, delicious loopholes.
Edit: It's been 8 months and no one has figured out that I referenced another Extra History episode
If the battle goes either way, the oracle can’t be wrong.
Ah, sweet, delicious ambiguous prophecies.
Similar to what the Oracle at Delphi told Croesus king of Lydia in around 550 B.C. when he asked should he attack the Persian Empire. The Oracle said "If Croesus goes to war he will destroy a great empire." He never thought the Great Empire that would be destroyed would be his own
which only strengthens my motto of "never trust an oracle that isnt named Barbara Gordon"
yes im a giant nerd
Its so wonderfuly vague
If religious stories have taught you anything, learn this: if a god sends you a message that could in some way be interpreted as "you die," assume the god is saying you will die
Maxentius: I will conquer all of Rome!
Constantine: Let me stop you right there...
*stop you right there at the FIRST bridge outside of Rome.*
Stop, these are both owned by the same person, I have seen the same exact comments on other videos, report the comments for commercial content
There are bots above me
Me: Sleeps
Extra history: So we released th-
Me: Est tempus
I'll be honest, I read it as Minivan Bridge and was thoroughly confused
My brain keeps inserting DC's John Constantine in my mental image every time the name Constantine comes up.
I read your comment as the title so fair play
I have my problems with CA, but I love that they are sponsoring you, as you are by FAR my favorite youtube channel.
EDIT: Many total war games are GREAT, including TW: Rome, but I am not loving some of their newer games.
Whats wrong with them?
@@rufushale8612 I just don't love the focus on heroes and less on military strategy. I am also a big history person and the Warhammer games don't really appeals to me, though I am sure they are wonderful for some people.
@@cirthador1453 Which one of the historical games had a focus on heroes? I think only Three Kingdoms and Troy. Warhammer isn't historical so it's fine there and I guess you acknowledge that but have a little grudge on the effort that went into those games instead of historical ones. And that's totally fine..
@@kaltaron1284 I am not saying there is anything wrong with the games like troy, warhammer, and three kingdoms, they just aren't my cup of tea.
I can't begin to describe how much this channel has helped me through tough times, I am autistic and I absoloutely LOVE history your videos on the punic wars is what sparked my interest I am so happy that you guys still make the videos, I truly enjoy every bit of content you put out. Much love Denmark!
that's great and all. but what does you being autistic have to do with anything?
Last time I was this early the Roman Empire was conquering Gaul
*Republic
And it was pretty darn late in the Roman history that Gaul was conquered
@@secretscipio How'd Zama go?
Last time I was this early the Gauls were sacking Rome
The Empire never conquered Gaul.... but the Republic did
"And Constantine will not even allow his enemy's memory to survive. He order Maxentius's name struck off every building he built, including the great basilica above the forum."
So he decided to cancel Maxentius.
The practice was called Damnatio Memoriae, and the Romans tried it more than once. Not always successfully, since we still know who Maxentius is.
Probably something normal in ancient time like an Egyptian pharaoh cancelling Hatshepsut because she was a succesful female pharaoh
Last time I was this early, Dan was still narrating.
I miss Dan’s narration 😞
I never found out, what did happen to Dan?
What happened to him?
Dan who?
@@QwertiusMaximus He's doing his own thing. (His channel, without his voice being altered so it's not so high pitched, is "New Frame Plus".) He also apparently spent some time working for Pixar Canada before the company shut it down, so now he seems to be just doing New Frame Plus full time.
Sees video on Milvian bridge: hype!
Hears we're getting a whole series on Constantine: HYPE!!!
It’s nice seeing the old art back after such a long time!
It always felt more professional and fit for Extra History.
I legit misread the title as “the battle of minivan ridge.” Was very confused lol
Assemble the soccer vans lol
Particularly since we all know the van was actually down by the river
I mean Constantine DID give a motivating speech!
Is this van down by the river though?
I love to see the old art style and the fact that Creative Assembly is sponsoring one of my favorite youtube channels.
I am here to publicly acknowledge and thank the OG TRIO Daniel Floyd, James Portnow, and Allison Theus for being the progenitors of Extra Credits and Extra History. It is THEIR work that got Creative Assembly's interest and support.
“The enemy of Rome shall fall on this day.”
Maxentius: Huh, I wonder who that's for
Diocletian looks different in this style than from the third-century crisis videos
The entire style of the video is made to look like the old artstyle of the very first videos, as a callback, I think.
Ok just today, it was reported that a finger found in the Louvre was reunited with a statue of Constantine hundreds of miles away in Rome, the finger had been mislabelled as a toe.
When I was originally told this story in catholic school, my teachers said they painted crosses on their shields.
But here, you explicitly say the Chi Rho
.
Now googling the difference between them, as they're kinda the same, but not really, but maybe.
The gods to Maxentius after he died: "You know, with 'the enemy of Rome' we actually meant you."
Yeah like that one is really fucking obvious. I think there's a Greek myth of a leader being told "a great kingdom will fall after this battle" and then he acts aggressively and his kingdom is the one that falls
@@AbsolXGuardian It's not a myth, that was during Cyrus The Great's early conquests. Persia was growing, and the King of Lydia wanted to conquer it, so he consulted a oracle who told him that if he attacked the persians, he would destroy a great empire. So he went to war, and lost, and Persia took the entirety of his kingdom over.
@@AbsolXGuardian The story of Croesus, king of Lydia. This story is about Croesus vs Cyrus the Great of Persia.
*God
@@AureliusLaurentius1099ave christus rex
Plot twist: Who send the divine message for Constantine was Aurelian, in his Force Ghost form.
wait where have i seen that before....
That's probably what happened. Aurelian and Mithras are separate yet of similar nature
“Surely this one time this Sybilline prophecy is literal and not ironic” says man about to make terrible mistake.
Wow I can't believe I've been watching this channel for 7 years. It seemed like yesterday when I watch the Punic War videos. Oh man
Technically, the Roman oracle would not be wrong with the "Tomorrow, the enemy of Rome would die tomorrow" regardless whomever won. Knowing that history is always written from the point of the victor, it's just a matter of one of the belligerents would have to die to fill that prophesy. If Maxentius won, then the Oracle can claim that Constantine was the enemy. And if he lost and died, anyone looking to get revenge for the prophesy can be shown that Maxentius was the enemy. It's only a problem should Maxentius lost but lived.
Pretty sneaky.
Yes! This is one of my favorite historical events, so God bless you for covering it.
You should do a full series on the Chrstianisation of the Roman Empire. It's an interesting topic that is often oversimplified in popular history.
This is the single best episode of Extra History uploaded for years
As a longtime fan of the Extra History series, it's nice to see the story of its origins come full circle.
When I hear the crisis of the 3rd century... I can only shed a tear for my hero Aurelian
What about his predecessor and boss Claudius Gothicus? He crushed the Goths (with Aurelian's help) at Naissus, which made Aurelian's job much easier when he succeeded him a few years later.
@@petergray7576meh, the empire would have collapsed before either of them got into power if gallienus wasn't able to save the empire from complete collapse after edessa
Thank You Creative Assembly more than I can express for bringing back the prime Extra Credits. Also, Thank You Extra Credits for still being here with your excellent content and abilities that helps everyone benefit from it.
Elizabeth Marlowe has a fascinating article on Constantine imagery during this period, and that his arch in the forum may actually frame the helios statue, which is linked to the Sun God imagery that was very popular at the time!
MY cat Cairo was very interested in you saying her name during this episode, or so she thought every time you said CHI RO. You've mentioned the city of Cairo before but only ever once per episode. Hearing it repeated caught her attention. She came to stare at the speakers.
CreativeAssembly is sponsoring Extra History? That went full circle.
This is a very refreshing episode of EH, fittingly very similar to much older episodes, a nice, exciting educational story to serve as an escape from the problems of today's society. I feel like too many EH episodes are supposed to remind us of the ethical problems we have today. There should be a balance between episodes that reflect on today and other episodes designed to relax the viewer with educational stories of the past. This is a step in the right direction...
I'd love to see some more military history/battles of history videos.
This story always takes me back to Third year late Roman History with Dr Wilkinson at university of Toronto. Not least having to remember the list of emperors from Constantine through to Romulus(long forgotten by me).
Divine prophecy. You may interprete them how you want, they still chose the terms.
I love this channel so much that as strange as it sounds, I don't jump in to listen right away because I want to find a time and place where I have no other distractions.
I have been waiting for this episode since the Schisms series. And the fact that CA is sponsoring it makes it even better.
i just rewatched the schism series last weekend this was such good timing
@@hurgcat Me too. I often find myself watching EH series more than once, not just to reaffirm the info in them, but because they often help to contextualize one another, so I will get more out of a given series after seeing another one and rewatching the first one with the new info in mind.
It's funny I recall those episodes, and well it's nice to see things come full circle.
This story was so intense, I sat here staring with my mug of tea so limp in my hand, it spilled everywhere 😂
This was wonderful.... fond memories of TW Rome II and the start of Extra History. Now, I'm off to rewatch The Punic Wars.
I was literally playing the remaster when this came out
Im in social studies right now but this is more important ehehehe
Social Distance studies though?
You guys have school today unlucky
I was listening to this without looking and kept hearing "Max Sánchez" lmao
fistbump!
I didn’t expect a video today, not that I’m complaining that one came today.
I found your channel through Vlogging Through History reaction videos. I cannot believe that I hadn't seen your channel until now. I am so happy to have your entire catalogue to watch for the foreseeable future. Thanks for the great content.
I loved the battle style this ep. I hope they use it more
I love how east and west are on the wrong sides at 2:10
Philipp Tomic: not if South is top of the screen.
Maps can be written many ways.
My Grandma had a map of Jerusalem with East atop the map.
Really cool having them sponsor another video! Not a game for me, but thank you CA! And welcome back!
this is better than actual social studies in schools
Sad but true. Dont get me wrong i love this channel and the old one. But school just never got it interesting for me. I'd rather (and chose to) learn on my own time
Creative Assembly are awesome :) I'll pick up the remaster on pay day.
Finally a good video from this Channel
Is it just me or are the videos about rome the best they are making?
Constantine: how am I supposed to win
Angels: bonjour
People surrounding Maxentius: "If he's not hungry, maybe he's thirsty!"
Big round of applause to the whole team. So many great videos came from that team up. Looking forward to new content and binging previous series. ❤👏
There's nothing like that one for the feeling of looking for an old episode to rewatch because you're obsessed, stumbling across this one and going hey I don't think I've seen this one how did I miss it? And then realizing you beat your subscriptions to it and found it before you got the alert LOL
Man, a whole Constantine series would be 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Because of how this show started and because of why this episode came to be, they should have asked Dan if he wanted to come back to the show 1 last time for this episode.
Lol references to the first episodes, ah were those good memories, glad i grew up with this channel
2013?
You mean The Before Time, in the Long, Long Ago?
Great as always but, where are the CCs ?
I actually have a Roman coin of Maxentius that was seemingly minted as part of his propaganda initiatives before the battle. It was found by a friend of my dad’s who runs a local port while dredging up the harbor and must have been buried underwater for centuries! By far one of my most treasured items!
The way he said "oh no" just made me laugh.
Funny coincidence, I rewatch the Punic Wars episodes today just before watching this.
I remember being a big TW fan excited for the Rome 2 release seeing a video shared through the Total War FB page about the Punic Wars. I've never missed an episode since. It's amazing to go back full circle with another email from CA.
Wow it’s been that long funny how things come full circle glad to be an extra credits history fan
Constantine:So anyways,i started praising D E V S.
Maxentius: *Crying demonic plebbery noises*
sounds like based dovahatty propaganda
"Don't trust anyone who writes 'devs' with an 'u'"- some coment in a dovahhatty video
@@sabinamartinez7058 I changed it now.
Was definitely taught, all the way up to high school, that Constanine saw the cross and such painted them on his army's shields.
I know right, the school system is fucked
There’s a lot of scholarly argument about what the sign was, so your school may actually be right!
Classic Artstyle = Best Artstyle
One of the fascinating things about Constantine is that his favoring of Christianity really came as "Romanness" was failing as a way of holding the empire together, so shifting the focus from "Rome" to "Christ" was a very shrewd way of shifting to an identity that would maintain cohesion in the face of the wildly disparate cultural identities that Rome had been trying to hold together. The hold on the individual cultures to a monolithic shared identity could relax, while a monolithic religious identity that favored and welcomed conversion became the load-bearing support that held the empire together. There's a series of books by Susan Weiss Bauer that really does a good job of stitching together history, History of the Ancient World, Medieval World, and Renaissance. What I like about them is that it puts what's going on in the different regions in the world into a good, understandable context picture. They're not short by any means, but if you're alright with that, they're worth reading (or listening to on Audible like I did XD)
This is my favorite battle in history by far
the virgin max*ntius vs the chad C O N S T A N T I N U S
I have been waiting for this
2:10, east and west are swapped around from the way they are usually shown on maps
More honoring the glory of Rome please
Thank you for the episode.
Constantine in this Battle: "DON'T FUCK WITH ME!! I HAVE THE POWER OF GOD *AND* ANIME ON MY SIDE!!
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Constantine is one of the most important figures in history given the changes to Rome under his tenure.
“The enemy of Rome will die” *maxentius dies* Maxentius: surprised pikachu face
You are my favorite history shorts on TH-cam
Minor thing but i always found it interesting that the younger emperor was a Ceaser and the senior emperor was an Augustus despite Julius Ceaser being the senior of Augustus
Love extra credits, always excited for a new episode!! Still excited for part 4 of Jewish pirates!! I feel as though after watching, just about every extra history video, I am a more educated and understanding person. God bless the extra history team!! Making the world a more educated, and less biased place, one episode at a time!!
Back where it all began. Wonderful 😊
Prophecy screws you over every time, the prophecy didn't say who the enemy of Rome was...
PANR has tuned in.
Yes! A video on roman history!
I love those videos so much :D
The painting of "The Battle of the Milvian Bridge" by Giulio Romano in the Vatican by pretty breathtaking
Damn, crazy how I found this channel all those years ago from the first extra history sponsorship, and now we're here again, sponsored by the same company for the same game for more roman history.
So, as a quality of life improvement for this show, I would like it if you included a full bibliography in your video descriptions of the sources you use, it would really help aspiring amateur historians (such as myself) to know where the information you're giving us is coming from
Yes, an extra history episode on Constantine and it has the extra sci fi art style