I bought a 2024 KTM 125 sx a few weeks ago and I assure you it hits hard! It hits harder than my 2022 KTM 150 sx with a fresh top end! The 125 hits hard then keeps pulling giving it the illusion of a “Linear” powerband mentioned. In my experience ,it doesn’t “sign off at the top” as also mentioned! Any real 2 stroke guy will figure this bike out within minutes…just feather the clutch and hold on tight!!!
Two strokes are meant to be extremely simple powerhouse engines. A piston slapping around in a jug with a couple holes to let air in and out while eating up a high volume of oil & gas. Once you start “modernizing” the design and trying to make it more efficient by giving it computer controlled fueling and throttle control etc. you might as well put a cam in it and make it a 4 stroke.
@@mbproductions2292 I’m sure if I were to spend more time on an EFI oil burner I could learn to use its smooth powerband and perhaps be faster in certain situations. I also admittedly only have a very small sample group of one single EFI 2 stroke that I’ve ridden so far, that being a GasGas 125. It was a nice bike, don’t get me wrong. But I still have an old 2005 KX 125 in my stable so we decided to race around a bit and the old carb’d Kawi murdered the GasGas out of the hole and coming out of corners. To be fair the GasGas was 100% factory stock and my KX has a V Force Reed valve, an FMF Fatty pipe w/ Powercore 2 Shorty silencer and Uni filter. Both bikes were running fuel from the same can; 100 octane Sunoco GT mixed 32:1 with Klotz oil. The GasGas only had maybe 10 hours on it and my KX probably has twice that since its last rebuild.
I don't like the idea of not having a kick start but I am interested with the fuel injector.. I'm an average rider that will probably never see a track and really love the classic too stroke.. Being much older and just wanting a good bike to ride. This might be the best of both worlds... a 2stroke that rides a little easier...
I have the 2023 TC125 Heritage, I was originally and supposedly going to get the 300tx 😂. I’m glad I didn’t, it would’ve been WAY to much bike for me to handle i also feel a 250f would be way to heavy for me coming off from a KX100. My Skill is around intermediate and I’m pretty light weight. The bike is just perfect for me for its lowered seat height, less vibration, and flickable. No im no pro, not even just a weekend warrior it’s by chance when I get to ride really. I really do like the TBI bikes but not the spark plug issues i had at first… If you have the TBIs and fouled a spark plug get a KTM 85 plug, drain the dealers mix, or put it to white map. I’m hoping the 24’s ironed out those issues. If you want an easier time with two strokes this bike is great especially not having to deal with jetting, or kickstarting (I wish we had an option for it however) just keep in mind of charging it that’s all.
Can you guys test a Tomasin T500 cr500? To me that’s the coolest bike kit on the planet right now and maybe do a comparison again the brc kids and a old school cr500
Eeh I stick with carburetor .. the hard hitting 2 stroke power is actually largely do to mediocre needle selection by manufacturers. Wich results in lean spots followed by proper fuel air. Or rich spots followed by lean or various combinations of inconsistencies in the rpm range vs fuel air ratio. Manufacturers Focused seemed to be in proper full throttle Jetting and off idle as they are typically mx race bikes. Unless the motor is just ported in a manner resulting in a very peaky rpm range. Wich isn't uncommon for a after market port job targeted at mx and peak hp. But bike can also be ported to have smoother wider power delivery. Or have squish band and port hight altered to shift rpm range. Or pipe selection as well. Jets r us is a good place to purchase needles or j.d jetting does a good job of selecting a decent needle for most applications. No the power valve is not what gives them their hit. Many w strokes have no power valve.. and the hit hard. Cr500 never had one... and basically any pre 90s 80cc or smaller never had one. Power valve kinda gives you 2 different power bands by altering exhaust port hight or compression. Allowing manufacturers to port the bikes to have better rideabillity throughout rpm range.
I don't get it. How is changing from carb to EFI making the bike lose horsepower? My understanding was that EFI would not sacrifice horsepower, only make the power curve and delivery more useable. I understand that power delivery is as important or more important than peak power. Hard hitting power is useless if you're on the clutch as much as you're on the throttle. But I thought that peak horsepower remained the same, only the curve and delivery was changed. I hope this just a gremlin that can be tuned out with ECU and mapping adjustments.
Most of the the tech sounds good but the weight is bad…. Also, who really needs the button on a 125???? Give KTM a couple of years to get all the settings worked out and this bike will be awesome. I’ve ridden KTM for 25 years and would NEVER buy the first year of anything new.
I’m really surprised ktm put this out there. What is happening lol kinda makes me lil happy I jumped ship when they started getting cheap went to a tm 144 lol that’s after riding them for over 20 years lol funny their running electric power valves now tm and sherco been running for ever lol
What's happening is they're using technology on older style bikes, will always be teething problems. But you need to start somewhere. These things rip, bought my 14 year old boy one and he loves it
Why do you test all the same bikes over and over again?? There are other bike on the market like TM racing, Kove, Beta . Ktm bike are now boring they change the color and say it’s a new model and now they’re going to be making in China. I won’t buy any KTM bikes because of that! They’re are selling out to the Chinese and Indian because they’re afraid to make premium bikes like Ducati
The TM importer moved back home and out of California. We just did a Kove. We just did a Beta. Interesting take on the manufacturer. You must know more than we do!
Sounds like a highschool student reading a book report
Sorry you don't like the voice over. We hope you have a better day tomorrow!
@DirtBikeMagazine 😆
I liked it
It was a great video, thanks for taking the time to make it 🤙🏼@@DirtBikeMagazine
Jeez, you put out great content-for free-and still people whine about it. Tough crowd!
I bought a 2024 KTM 125 sx a few weeks ago and I assure you it hits hard! It hits harder than my 2022 KTM 150 sx with a fresh top end! The 125 hits hard then keeps pulling giving it the illusion of a “Linear” powerband mentioned. In my experience ,it doesn’t “sign off at the top” as also mentioned! Any real 2 stroke guy will figure this bike out within minutes…just feather the clutch and hold on tight!!!
Buying mine today. Thank you for that. I was getting depressed watching that video 😡
@@blaketoney7135 another thing they neglect to mention in the video is that it can be remapped to whatever power curve you want!
Two strokes are meant to be extremely simple powerhouse engines. A piston slapping around in a jug with a couple holes to let air in and out while eating up a high volume of oil & gas. Once you start “modernizing” the design and trying to make it more efficient by giving it computer controlled fueling and throttle control etc. you might as well put a cam in it and make it a 4 stroke.
Agree yet disagree. I can definitely see your point
@@mbproductions2292 I’m sure if I were to spend more time on an EFI oil burner I could learn to use its smooth powerband and perhaps be faster in certain situations. I also admittedly only have a very small sample group of one single EFI 2 stroke that I’ve ridden so far, that being a GasGas 125. It was a nice bike, don’t get me wrong. But I still have an old 2005 KX 125 in my stable so we decided to race around a bit and the old carb’d Kawi murdered the GasGas out of the hole and coming out of corners. To be fair the GasGas was 100% factory stock and my KX has a V Force Reed valve, an FMF Fatty pipe w/ Powercore 2 Shorty silencer and Uni filter. Both bikes were running fuel from the same can; 100 octane Sunoco GT mixed 32:1 with Klotz oil. The GasGas only had maybe 10 hours on it and my KX probably has twice that since its last rebuild.
No because 2strokes will always be lighter
@@gregducati999 yes, in the case of the 250s a whopping 5lb difference between the KTM 250 SX and the 250 SXF lol
@@gregducati999I rode a 23 ktm 123sx, 23 gasgas mc250f and a 23 Yamaha yz250f this past weekend. The yz250f felt lightest.
I don't know about the bike but the Rider was ripping!!
Braaap 🔥
Sean Lipanovich is fast. Easily could race a Pro National right now. Scary this is "retired" speed. lol
If I was you I'd sound a lot more happier doing this video!!😂
We weren't mad at all. Had a good time and enjoy 125s. Thanks for watching!
You just cant kill thr 2 stroke. Music to our ears those things 😎
No kickstart is an instant disqualification in my books.
I love my 24 ktm125. Videos on my page using the green map on my account. so nice to not have to deal with a carb too. thing is fast
Which track is that ?
2024 125 shootout when ??
Thanks for the vids :)
We're going to show our 125 line up with test videos. Than the full blown shootout with all the bikes. It will be soon. Promise =)
I don't like the idea of not having a kick start but I am interested with the fuel injector.. I'm an average rider that will probably never see a track and really love the classic too stroke.. Being much older and just wanting a good bike to ride. This might be the best of both worlds... a 2stroke that rides a little easier...
Es una 💣 d 125 i. Lo mejor 👌🏻
I have the 2023 TC125 Heritage, I was originally and supposedly going to get the 300tx 😂. I’m glad I didn’t, it would’ve been WAY to much bike for me to handle i also feel a 250f would be way to heavy for me coming off from a KX100.
My Skill is around intermediate and I’m pretty light weight. The bike is just perfect for me for its lowered seat height, less vibration, and flickable.
No im no pro, not even just a weekend warrior it’s by chance when I get to ride really.
I really do like the TBI bikes but not the spark plug issues i had at first…
If you have the TBIs and fouled a spark plug get a KTM 85 plug, drain the dealers mix, or put it to white map.
I’m hoping the 24’s ironed out those issues.
If you want an easier time with two strokes this bike is great especially not having to deal with jetting, or kickstarting (I wish we had an option for it however) just keep in mind of charging it that’s all.
Down 3-4 hp? Should be up that amount with all the tech, maybe KTM will find them ponies in a couple of years🤠
Less than a carb
Can you guys test a Tomasin T500 cr500? To me that’s the coolest bike kit on the planet right now and maybe do a comparison again the brc kids and a old school cr500
Eeh I stick with carburetor .. the hard hitting 2 stroke power is actually largely do to mediocre needle selection by manufacturers. Wich results in lean spots followed by proper fuel air. Or rich spots followed by lean or various combinations of inconsistencies in the rpm range vs fuel air ratio. Manufacturers Focused seemed to be in proper full throttle Jetting and off idle as they are typically mx race bikes. Unless the motor is just ported in a manner resulting in a very peaky rpm range. Wich isn't uncommon for a after market port job targeted at mx and peak hp. But bike can also be ported to have smoother wider power delivery. Or have squish band and port hight altered to shift rpm range. Or pipe selection as well.
Jets r us is a good place to purchase needles or j.d jetting does a good job of selecting a decent needle for most applications.
No the power valve is not what gives them their hit. Many w strokes have no power valve.. and the hit hard. Cr500 never had one... and basically any pre 90s 80cc or smaller never had one. Power valve kinda gives you 2 different power bands by altering exhaust port hight or compression. Allowing manufacturers to port the bikes to have better rideabillity throughout rpm range.
I don't get it. How is changing from carb to EFI making the bike lose horsepower? My understanding was that EFI would not sacrifice horsepower, only make the power curve and delivery more useable. I understand that power delivery is as important or more important than peak power. Hard hitting power is useless if you're on the clutch as much as you're on the throttle. But I thought that peak horsepower remained the same, only the curve and delivery was changed. I hope this just a gremlin that can be tuned out with ECU and mapping adjustments.
More weight , less power , higher MSRP. What’s not to like ?
Electric start and throttle body injection. That weighs more. Costs more. More bike. You are a hardcore.
Fantic ❤
Most of the the tech sounds good but the weight is bad…. Also, who really needs the button on a 125???? Give KTM a couple of years to get all the settings worked out and this bike will be awesome. I’ve ridden KTM for 25 years and would NEVER buy the first year of anything new.
Great narrator.
Thank You !
sounds like id rather buy last years generation km125.
23 gasgas mc125 was the last carby
Music to my ears
Thanks for checking it out!
No Thanks. Kick starter nad jets 💪🏻
I’m really surprised ktm put this out there. What is happening lol kinda makes me lil happy I jumped ship when they started getting cheap went to a tm 144 lol that’s after riding them for over 20 years lol funny their running electric power valves now tm and sherco been running for ever lol
What's happening is they're using technology on older style bikes, will always be teething problems. But you need to start somewhere. These things rip, bought my 14 year old boy one and he loves it
The white map is way faster I have the 2024 ktm 125 sx to
Why do you test all the same bikes over and over again?? There are other bike on the market like TM racing, Kove, Beta . Ktm bike are now boring they change the color and say it’s a new model and now they’re going to be making in China. I won’t buy any KTM bikes because of that! They’re are selling out to the Chinese and Indian because they’re afraid to make premium bikes like Ducati
The TM importer moved back home and out of California. We just did a Kove. We just did a Beta. Interesting take on the manufacturer. You must know more than we do!
KTM doesn’t change their bikes because they already work. 😁
@@DirtBikeMagazine so you only review bikes imported to California?
Because those are bad
The yz sounds so much cooler
The 2024 is the most advance 125 ktm has made wich only has new graphix compared to the 2023
In the 125 class....who advanced their bike more for 2024?
@@DirtBikeMagazine it wasn't ktm they did that in 23 its a bold new graphic bike
@@DirtBikeMagazineHe's saying the 2023 is exactly the same as the 2024, the 2024 just has the new graphics
Did you even watch the video? It's practically a completely different bike.
@YourMomsHouseLikeJody you must be idiot the 23 and 24 are same bike only new graphics on 24
Hlo sir I want this dirt bike
Wee hornet. Need to keep her buzzing. Good bike if you weigh 50 kilos or you are 10 years old.
I'll take a YZ, thanks.......
It sounds like a hoped up GP bike.
the yz video as way better imo lmao
Seriously bad video I couldn’t even come close to finishing it
Can you fly Bobby?