How Could God Interact with the World? | Episode 212 | Closer To Truth
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- If God exists, and if God ordains history and generates miracles, how does God do it? Fiddle with each and every atom? Command all of them en masse? What possibly could be God's technique? Featuring interviews with Robert Russell, John Polkinghorne, Paul Davies, Alvin Plantinga, and Ernan McMullin.
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I love that this channel isn't afraid to to bring up God and actually tries to seek out answer instead just bashing on religion like most atheist channels.
I agree, it is refreshing to have a serious science channel be carefully neutral and open-minded.
Which god?
@@andrebrown8969 God's identity is a later issue.
God doesn't have an identity if He doesn't exist.
I'd like to consider that question SOLELY based on science and logic.
@@20july1944 Like Santa Clause or bigfoot or unicorn, trolls, elves?
Unicorns could exist based on science and logic, so could dragons.
@@andrebrown8969 No, I'm not interested on those, I'm interested in God's existence or not.
Would you consider yourself reasonably well-educated in science?
I'm listening to great thinkers for free sitting at home. Thanks a lot Robert. Thanks to the technology.
This channel is the best religious education I've ever gotten.
A hurricane was forecast and an evacuation was ordered. An entire neighborhood packed up and was leaving--one man didn't load up--his neighbors asked, aren't you leaving and he said no, God will take care of me.. the waters rose due to flood stage and boats were sent in but the man refused to leave saying, God will take care of me.. The helicopters came over but the man waved them off with a sign that read: God will save me..
He died..
At the pearly gates the man met God and he asked God, why didn't you save me? God said I had a warning issued, I sent in boats and then helicopters..
We all miss the signs that are here everyday--God puts everything in motion and it's up to us to make the best of it all--he won't miracle us out of problems, or stand in front of you with a daily personal communication--that's why it's called faith and we still have to exercise common sense..
God is the world so she doesn't need to interact 🙏
word!
You got the answer! Quantum world is non-deterministic. If God determines what happens at quantum level, combine that with deterministic but powerful ability of chaos theory, you can do everything! Even with a small quantum effect you can drive things crazy. That is a sufficient description of how God can intervene. Although it didn't talk about how future might affect present. But we got at least one answer in this episode. Awesome episode!
I was pleased with all the questions, but I did not get my answer to the question how God interacts with our daily life consisting of behavior, emotions, feelings, result of our prayers, etc. I am happy though that none of the speakers took the FAITH point of view.
It is a good start. I would love to see more discussions on the subject.
God doesn’t interact with us because god is us manifest in all that exists. For example: Electricity is hidden but manifested in light bulbs, electric cars et etc. When the bulb dies the electricity is still there hidden.
Believe god tampers with behaviors and emotions leads to the idea of not having free will
@@frasermackay9099 When the bulb dies the electric CURRENT stops completely.
The commentary itself is rooted in faith
If I were God, I would interact by being a loving friend. A voice in your mind that might help to point out your options at the moment. Help you to make a better decision than last time. I would never use force against you and I would always be honest with you. I would stay with you always. At a distance if you prefer but never gone completely.
Each time God shows himself to me, I call that a miracle. It makes no difference if it is a big event or a small one. I have seen this enough times in my life to know that He is with me. Ya can't ask for more than that.
Prove just one of those events that god showed himself. Hurry, the whole Internet is waiting...
@@NeverTalkToCops1 Hi, I used to have the same skepticism you have.
God or what ever term you would like to use will reveal herself/himself to you, if you simply forget everything you think you know, while gently training your ego to be quiet and still, so that you can recieve. (Be just like an antenna, this is imperative)
You must whole heartly seek a real relationship with something you only think you dont know (A weird concept, I know). It is not easy and takes a completely open heart/mind and a genuine willingness to submit to wanting to know something bigger than any of us. Your skepticism is healthy and is the first step to finding. One day when you least expect it you will know and it will be so clear.
A very wise person once said," Seek and you shall find". This is real and true but you must do the work i.e., "The inner work". Enquiry into theology, philosophy, history, science and arcane knowledge embedded in the various traditions can help you a lot in this quest.
Everyone finds in diffrent ways, but once it is revealed there is no getting away from it, it is impossible. When you know you will not be able to explain it or prove it. You will be just confused and amazed at what has always been in you, in front of you, and all around. Hard to believe I know!
Even harder to believe is that what ever you want to call it is completey devoted to you. If you learn to empty yourself even just a litte you can be filled with more than you ever wanted or imagined materially or spiritually.
Once blessed with the knowlege of your identity you too will carry the wonderful burden of knowing, feeling seeing and witnessing, now wanting nothing more than to just share it with others who cannot quite see yet. Not an easy task, but worth it! Best wishes and good luck!
@@andrewwhite6 its so nice to know there's others out there..thank you Andrew 😇
lol what did he look like? Simple question I bet you can't/won't answer
@@NeverTalkToCops1 I just asked a simple question - what did God look like? He will run away from that question, lol
That Bob guy at the start is just making stuff up. How does he know that god interacts through quantum physics? It’s utter tosh. The second guy John is also just making stuff up! How does he know? Why is his answer different to Bob’s.
Can't wait for the day Robert becomes a christian!
and then understand God is just like Putin - if we get down on our knees, swear loyalty(belief) to him and him only, he will be pleased and GIVE us the easy good life
I am God and I interact in the internet world now***
It's always a gigantic surprise to me to hear all those people talk, about a topic they have literally no experience of, of any kind, and yet here they are, talking. As if they knew. The aplomb needed to such display is absolutely unbelievable
Can't see why I a scientists like Bob keep on lying to themselves.
What’s your evidence that a particular god exists, other than manmade tales.
@@Paine137 that's my point.
Are you assuming you have the ultimate truth??
@@Paine137 The cause and effect binding law. Every thing that man come across did not created itself. someone created it: Allah did.
@@Paine137 I would like to know your evidence that there is no God.
God can make the speed of light to be whatever he wants.
One can see the question from a different angle. Are there events, across religion and culture, where it is claimed that the universal creator interacts with humans? Yes, Near-Death Experiences (NDE).
But why deal with ordinary people's experiences? God is for all people, and it is among them that interactions take place. Jesus was also the son of a carpenter, on earth.
The notion that consciousness is not limited to the physical body and that an evaluation takes place is in line with Plato's thoughts.
What NDE patients experience in 5-10 minutes is described, in general, as a unique very positive event that changes their lives positively for the rest of their lives. They want to stay in the light but return to their body of their own choice. The fear of death disappears.
Researchers at the University of Virginia, and other researchers, are dealing with NDEs, so maybe you should pay them a visit to try to get closer to the truth.
God is within
It baffles me that there are highly educated individuals in this day and age still believe in a god, it’s so ridiculous!
Nancy: "You can't simply argue from a few bits of observation"
Daniel: "Ok I can't, then I don't. Have a good day"
By coherence; by truth. The brain has been a comfort finder and is becoming a coherence detector; sometimes our articulations are in conflict as a result. If we stay in context; comfort or coherence, not both; the apparent conflict is resolved. Coherence, truth; if there is a god, communication is by that.
Hmm...
The conflict is. People think this place is "real".
God, is consciousness. Period.
We, are figments of our own imagination...
Well, He used to do big spectacular miracles, like destroying cities, turning a woman into a pillar of salt, or raising the dead.
Lately, though he seems to manifest in trivial matters, like helping to locate keys and revealing parking spots, or statistical anomalies, like having a few survivors of terrible accidents.
He may not be dead, but He is certainly missing in action.
Maybe SHE is just tired of being called HE? 😅
Thank you for posting this video!
this has been one of my questions that I am still trying to find an answer.
I know for a fact that there will never be a definite answer to your question unfortunately :( If we knew how god would interact with the world, we could measure this interaction potentially. So far all measurements of quantum events are exactly random as predicted. But of course god could know that that is being measured and make sure it turns out random while it while it changes other quantum outcomes in a determined way to achieve a certain outcome and we would never know. However, why would a god try to hide so well? If a god can effect the outcome of every random event in physics, it should have influenced the path of the photons in the double slit experiment such that instead of the interference pattern, the outcome would show the name "Jehova" written on the screen and a lot more people would believe and pray to that god.
If reality is virtual like more and more physicists are agreeing to,then, messing with it would be easy (For the creator of it anyway)
But a virtual world comes out of a real material world where you do the simulation and god is not understood as material or made of constituents
@@rotorblade9508 from our limited perspective yes a virtual world for example a video game comes from a physical world is our physical reality but what do the characters if they were conscious in this game possibly know or possibly could know about "the real world" their idea of physical are the objects planets Stars Etc in their world our idea of physical to them just does not compute to them our physical to them would be non-physical to them
So it would be impossible for us as inhabitants of a virtual reality, it is likely impossible that our virtual reality was created by a physical reality, as we know physical, our virtual reality has to have been created buy something other than the physical that we're aware of and that is probably consciousness, just like the virtual video games we create everything in there is very different from our physicality but the characters in there if they were conscious and intelligent on their own would really have no way of putting a handle on what we are and what we're made of and the physicality of our world as we would likely have just as hard of a Time identifying / understanding the physicality or makeup or reality of our creator, or for that matter even getting outside the system wherein and examining the creating system.
How about imagination? What if we are actually exist inside God Consciousness?
That "space" Of Nothingness or Existence is God itself?
Exactly! The Worlds is merely an illusion of existence... All we can say about reality is just about God Imagination.. The real thing (Real Being Consciousness) is just God itself.. We are all servant for His Existence..
i think what we call life or reality is just fragmentation of something more big/great that we not aware of that..
God is Impersonal also at same time personal, at least in Human Mind/perspective..
(Maybe all reality is just exist in God Consciousness.. The World we life in is just small part of His Consciousness)
That means, if there a God.. That God is must be active, rather than Passive.. To Sustain all existence and all existed existence literally not wipeout/evaporate in existence/reality.. (That Means.. What we call God Always Observing us, in the same manner it same for "participants" Of God that active in action guide/sustain us to still exist... Rather than just "observing" But not do anything, or not effect anything)
It implication that God eternally "create" us.. (Just like sun "eternally" Emanating light, or like human persist/hold a form of imagination in mind) .. Personally i don't like deistic God that "ignorance" After he create something... Because there is no after or beginning for God Consciousness..
So, God must be Active because naturally Servant(creation)Always needed His Existence/His Participant/His Presence.. To being exist.
Yes He is Observer "outside" Spacetime, but He Also "Participants" In another sense of think in the motion of Existing Spacetime.. But are you think there is a something outside of God Existence(God Consciousness)? Personally I don't think so, because God is The One Who Consciousness in the first place.. So nothing can escape and exist in outside Of His Existence(His Consciousness)..
Exactly! The Worlds is merely an illusion of existence... All we can say about reality is just merely God "Imagination/Projection" about Himself .. The real thing (Real Being Consciousness) is just God itself.. We are servant for His Existence..
Word "imagination" In this case is not what we call and think about imagination of human being that just "imaginary reality that not beneficial/effect in reality" .. In some sense of manner it mean God need us to exist for knowing Himself or fulfill His Purpose...
In the Mind Of God, Maybe He Thinking About... Why I Exist? For What I Exist? How to Fulfill my existence? .. So we are exist because God Think or aware About His Existence..
We Are Participants of God Existence..
We are exist because God Aware Of Us..
That Means..
God is Observer and Participants at same time.. In the other sense of manner we are even didn't exist... So what we call "God Observing us outside of spacetime"
Is nothing more than God Self-Awareness, Self-consciousness about Himself.. So what we are?
We are only Knowledge that God be found about Existence Himself.. That Means, Deistic God is not even real.. Because God Always active to Knowing What He to Know from Himself..this outcome of knowing Himself is what we call reality .. Step by step of existence that reveal/become reality.. From nothingness (in the perception of human being) but in the fact(Presence Of God Consciousness), Nothingness there is not even exist...
That it.. To be know something, sometimes we must forget something.. In the case, God Forgetting Some Of His "Existence/Essence" In the manner of servant (human, nature, spacetime, etc). .for example a Servant Hungry or need something, so God can fulfill His Grace with it.. A servant finite, so God becomes infinite outcome for that finite existence...
Or in the manner what i don't know..
God simulating Himself Through Existence Of Servant (All things)...
Maybe God say in His Consciousness... What I can give? What purpose of me? What if? What they think about me? What they call/talk/spoke about me? What they need? And what I can fulfill? I have abundance of life, abundance of existence, expression and experience.. I need to share with! So we "eventually" Exist.
Word/Consciousness Of God about Himself equal to all existing.. But at same time not equal to all existing.. Because what we call existing is just face of God.. Just "fragmentation" Of His Existence.. God Transcend all existing..
God forgetting about some atribute His Infinite Essence so finite being exist.. Finite being exist to fulfill another face of His Majestic infinite Existence.. In the sense of manner we are "God" That forgetting infinite reality.. Sometimes Human mind is more than a body or earth or universe.. You see it? Because in the first place we "eventually" Are God.. But at same time we are not God itself. . . All reality is merely God Actualization, Realization And Manifestation about Himself..
Are we life in a Virtual Reality? That God gift to us?to experience? Yes.. World's is literally a Virtual Reality.. (An artificial reality, that mean what we call reality is not even exist in first place.. There is Only God Consciousness that literally/actually/really exist)
Look at this verse, it sign or proof that maybe this life is exactly just a Virtual Reality..
"Did We fail in the first creation? But they are in confusion over a new creation.
And We have already created man and know what his soul whispers to him, and We are closer to him than [his] jugular vein
When the two receivers receive, seated on the right and on the left.
Man does not utter any word except that with him is an observer prepared [to record].
And the intoxication of death will bring the truth; that is what you were trying to avoid.
And the Horn will be blown. That is the Day of [carrying out] the threat.
And every soul will come, with it a driver and a witness.
[It will be said], "You were certainly in unmindfulness of this, and We have removed from you your cover, so your sight, this Day, is sharp."
And his companion, [the angel], will say, "This [record] is what is with me, prepared."
(Quran, Qaf 15-23)
Your comment about this topic is precisely similiar as quran say about day of judgement (day of resurrection)... Yes, maybe we are life in some kind of VR Realm... The Veil will be removed from our consciousness one day.. So, we are able to see another Reality and maybe Everything that today is still unseen for us or even "The Greater Face Of God" Can we see.... And All Praised for The Lord Of The Worlds.. Allah The Almighty One..The Sustainer And All-Encompassed One Of All Realities....
All Realities is just Product Of One Consciousness.. In islam we call Him Allah, but He has another 99 of Name/Nature/Attributes that sign to pursuing Him The Real One...
In the Name/Nature Of The Manifest One, The Observing One..
He is The Ultimate And Absolute Reality The One Universal Consciousness that Observing All Realities.. And The Sustainer All-Realities.. Eternally Him Praised Himself Over All Creations and Existence... So you look everything is look perfect,beautiful and have purpose of existing... All existence is about God Praised Himself.. Proud to be One His Praised
..that is "I/Me", and everything that have " I/Me", Exactly must be Praised
Him.. The One Creator Above All Existence.. You can call Him, The Absolute/Ultimate One, The Beneficent One... The Manifest One, The Sustainer One..The Most High And The Most Gracious if you Allergic about Arabic Name of God, Allah.
"Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One,
Allah, the Eternal Refuge.
He neither begets nor is born,
Nor is there to Him any equivalent."
(Quran, 112:1-4)
Exactly! we are Eternally exist inside God Consciousness/Knowledge/Mind/Intellegence/Self, because God never be born .. Never be begotten.
Exactly! Because there is God Awareness... Perfection, Balance, glorious, or beauty.. Is another name/nature/attribute of God... Everything you see or facing (physically or mentally) is Face Of God.. Including yourself
"And to Allah belongs the east and the west. So wherever you [might] turn, there is the Face of Allah. Indeed, Allah is all-Encompassing and Knowing.
(Quran,2:115)
Is google just a non-believer? Their Closed Captioning is not spelled god in lower case. It’s God, upper case for the name.
If God exists, God interacts with humans by making us think about God. Therefore, God intervenes as a trigger for the intent, and this intent guides our behaviors. The act of thinking towards something, in this case God, is an interaction, a connection between what is thought and the thinker. It doesn’t matter if you are a theist or an atheist, both are thinking about the existence of God, one to believe it, the other to reject it. Even if you never pay attention or think about God, it doesn’t matter. You know God is present, God is not something alien. So, my question is: why does the creator of “something” needs that this “something” think about its creator? Is that the reason why we are looking for the theory of everything?
This is the most underrated channel on youtube
Press a few buttons here, and a few there, and see what happens. God works in mysterious ways.
If you analyse the responses, you might find that the scientist-theists aged more than a threshold (say 70-80) tend to tilt more towards the traditional concept of God.
Is it more of a comfort factor rather than genuine enquiry?
Could be explored further...
Can you please add english subtitle? It's hard to understand the whole video. Also there are lots of mistakes in auto-generated subtitles.
O kadar zor degil??
Speaking the whole truth - this program is a travel show.
Are conscience God is the light
now they have decided to hide him in quantum mechanics... on the cloud is not working for some reason.
Not enough memory? Just a lucky guess.
“We don’t understand things at the quantum level so that’s God” all I heard here
If believers' brains were squished as hard as the "God of the gaps" we'd be free from the confusion between religious mythology and history and the stupid it engenders.
Its sound like, I don't understand what is the smart guy talking about so it must be God of the gaps
@@deczen47 Your sentence is incoherent.
@@mastaskep why is it not coheren?
@@deczen47 English must not be your first language? Few grammatical errors and sentence structure made it incoherent. Not sure if you are in agreeance with what I said or taking a shot at me.
God is the world so anything is possible.
he just smile about how silly we are ...
"he just smile about how silly we are ..."
If god created us, he is the silliest of them all.
@@andreasplosky8516 Then i will be always grateful for his "sillitude"
On what grounds can we assume that our discovered realm of the physical laws and the theories could be the ultimate reality of existence? The discoveries, uncovering and theorizing has not yet stopped, and will probably never cease. God being the creator might actually have far superior real laws, to which our sofar discovered ones are inferior...
The whole model of existence that we fathom might not at all be the focal point of the purpose creating the existence, which we might only be a tiny part of. Hence the physical laws we are aware of could be the limits of our existence, and not God's!
Amazing! A huge appeal to magic and disregard for Science.
There is a verse in the quran👇
" we will show them our signs in the universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this( the god Allah and his book Quran) is the truth. (Quran chapter 41:53)
This so called modern scientists, theologians, thinkers every one is still so baffled, confused and puzzled by the realities of the existence so that they cannot refute the existence of an all powerful creator and sustainer for our universe.
@@hafiz6656 okay god guy, what evidence there is for the existence of god? Let's start with rookie one, why god waits 13billion years to create a life form who'll worship him? And why have a storyline involving dinosaur, younger dryas when in the end it didn't matter? You worship Allah does that mean he hates you because if you look at it historically, white people had it easy and enjoying their 'lives' be it scientific invention, good living conditions, nobel prizes, better healthcare and every bs we equate with 'good life'. Does that mean white people are gods fav? Lmaooo also if we ever detect Alien life would that mean your interpretation of God was false all along because who made that Alien in the first place?
@@hafiz6656 and the best one, why tf miracles stopped happening after the invention of recording tech? We don't see no apparitions no more, last one i guess was Fatima incident in Portugal which miraculously no one recorded lmaooo So convenient.
@@GedamDikshant @Ministry Of Arguments
Holy quran has the answer, it is the direct word spoken by the god, a living miracle and proof which points towards the god.
How we can convince ourself that quran is a devine book,
1) Revealed to an unlettered prophet 1500 years ago, which speaks about science,philosophies, history, future events, without having a single contradiction till now.
2) It challanges the entire human kind to produce one single chapter like the chapters of quran, even the smallest chapter of the quran contains only 3 sentences, and till now nobody able to refute that challenge.
3) It states about the big bang theory, death of the star and creation of black hole, pulsars, oceanography, human embryological development, relativity of time and so more, and with all this facts it is the only book that had ever created by any one, that it challanges its readers to find any mistakes in it.
4) It doesn't discard the previous religions and concepts of god like Christianity and Judaism entirely, but also made compulsory on its followers to belive in previous scriptures like thora and bible( not the corrupted version that we have today).
5) It contains numerous mathmatical miracles which is impossible to imitate even in this era of super computers.
So much more is there i recommend you to make a serious study in order to convince yourself.
I am God and I interact with the Nature***
The question is 'how did God interact with people?' not could.
Were you absent all these years? That is how you ignore yourself, 'f' anything else.
At least, now you know there is a creator, bet it ignored.
This is why ignorance will damage our world.
We are at the point of breaking our own world, for only a few handful of the rich.
Yes, the reason for this self-alienation or alienation from life, lays in these renunciations in thinking with which we "buy" or knowledge! 🍎
Always if He existed 🙏😭😭😭❤️🙏
Surprisingly this is one of the hardest questions asked on closer to truth
lol because we are talking about an entity whose existence has never been proven
lol because first there is no proof of God - we don't even know he exists! or what he looks like? Where did he come from? Nothing!
I control the Whole Universe***
....and unfortunately there is only one way to find out if God exist ,the day your heart stop functioning
Death is the gateway to magic land!
The more we know, the more we find out how little we know. Why would the human mind want to think that it was created by an almighty God, maker of everything? We still make weapons to destroy each other, what God would create miserable beings.
It's not just God that they want - with God they want the easy lazy life after death - just like any prostitute/gigolo/leech views the rich Guy - their ticket to a life of comfort
We humans created weapons using our Free Will - not God.
The method of interaction would be unknown with a transcendent God but if Panentheism is correct then the Creator and the created are interfused anyhow but part of God remains outside of creation but is somehow intrinsically connected to it.The method of that connection would be unobservable from within the created as you would be unable to observe the mechanisms at work outside.
Some "outside of creation" observations: med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/
Pantheism doesn't appeal to people who view God much as any prostitute/gigolo/leech views the rich guy - a source of eternal comfort - easy lazy pleasures of the flesh for eternity
Hence God must remain outside of creation - running a Retirement Home for billions shamelessly sponging off him - an idle, useless & pointless existence for eternity
You first need to PROVE that God exist which no one has ever done, before you ask the question “How could God Interact with the world?”
You need to provide the definition of objective acceptable prove, before you ask that, not what you subjectively consider as prove, and dismiss the whole thing by your own confirmation bias that "no one has ever done".
And it's the same tired old view of God - the ticket to an unending life of comfort, much as a any prostitute/gigolo/leech views the rich guy & people have been killed because that was stupid
@@ramaraksha01 Why bother about the unending life, when you can obtain that in this life, what is stopping you to steal and loot to gain riches? or rather why do you get offended by adversaries and calamities? all a human require in world is water- food, clothing and a small roof to live, yet you are complicating your own life for desire of riches that are temporal. Quite convincing ideology you got there.
@@iznij3284 How about looking up beyond your own selfish thoughts and seeing the world that needs you?
You can be the next Einstein, dream of travelling to the stars
Find a cure for cancer, raise funds to fight such diseases
You live in this world, I assume in a first world democratic country - imagine living as a woman in Afghanistan with the Taliban closing in or a non-Muslim in that country
You can do your part, you don't have to go fight but fund those who are willing to fight
And then you can go further, put your neck at risk - you can suit up, join the army and go fight
You can be a journalist and write against drug lords
You can volunteer at a hospital overwhelmed with Covid19
You can go stand with those freedom fighters in countries like Belarus
So much to do but your thoughts don't go beyond your selfish self
@@iznij3284 In your next life you will be born as lower life form - such as a bird - what does a bird want in life? Look over what you said - the 4 S's - Sleep, Sustenance, Safety and Sex - and that's about it
No aspirations or desires of conquering the world or changing it
If that's all you want from life, human life is wasted on you, you are better off being who you are - TAT TVAM ASI - You Are That
the problem is not that human cannot prove god....the problem is that god cannot prove itself to human
You could explain WHY God cannot prove itself to us. If It did, it would be be the proverbial monkey wrench in His Perfect System. The System depends greatly on Free Will. If God was obvious, it would unduly affect Free Will.
Unfalsifiable ad hoc doesn't provide much substance.
no, no it doesn't.
Humans ... struggling, fighting to understand why, when and what of the universe... while ignoring the now in front of them.
Well they disadvantage is which that mortality.
Let's see - God created this world, we live in this world for a brief while and if we make sure we get the his name right, we get to sit in magic Retirement Home in the sky, an idle, useless pointless existence for eternity!
Ah, God's Grand Plan!
Frightened that we have highly educated that nod their heads at such a fantasy tale
By definition “Interaction” implies time, the continuous flow of events we humans are deeply embedded in. The question is: why God should be bothered by time? If time (and the perception of it) is a peculiarity of the existing entities, including humans, is most probably a creation of God as well. Moreover, if we consider reality as a whole, including time as a dimension, everything is already written: there’s no need to imagine God’s intervention, ‘cause it world be just a perception of ours, nothing more. Not that different from our perception of the so called “free will”….
Maybe it is only my impression but your consideration, Sir, lead me to the same conclusions that Emanuele Severino, the notorious italian philosopher, published in his book: La Struttura originaria (the complete title is: La Struttura Originaria della Verità dell’Essere) in which entirely the Cosmo and the space time itself actually are the manifestation that is fitting in our perception and so is the world as becoming, but in the truth as Epistéme the whole universe and space ant time and possibilities are permanently designated in what we could call The One as Plotino did.
...not just time... but the same goes for causality itself.
“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.
Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil?
Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?” - Epicurus
According to islamic theology the first creation of god is a pen and tablet, after creating that he ordered the pen to write down all events' even a minute condom event which is going to happen in future until the end of the material universe.
There is a verse in the quran👇
" we will show them our signs in the universe, and in their own selves, until it becomes manifest to them that this( the god Allah and his book Quran) is the truth. (Quran chapter 41:53)
This so called modern scientists, theologians, thinkers every one is still so baffled, confused and puzzled by the realities of the existence so that they cannot refute the existence of an all powerful creator and sustainer for our universe.
If God could interact with the world, He would not let the Earth be destroyed with nuclear weapons as it will be.
God is the Life itself (I am the life!), organizing, transforming, realizing itself (I am what I will be!). This "subject of knowledge" intervenes on itself, for example with science, with religion or with natural catastrophes. For that we are something like "living building bricks". In both, in science and religion this subject steps each in a special way next to itself, for self intervention, for reason of self transformation and realization. 😉
And so, that's the reason God can be there for everyone like there is no other, and that's the reason God sees everything through all eyes, and that's the reason you hurt God if you hurt someone, because God is in everyone! But not everyone knows that!
And zero evidence of any such being
God is NOT 'in' everyone. He IS everyone (and everything). God CANNOT be hurt or damaged. God's connection with everyone and everything is Consciousness.
so I can then ask in what way could a non-physical intervene in the physical world ? The answer is: so we can then ask in what way could a non-physical "Mind" intervene in the physical world? so science should find what is "Mind" first.
Being mind is not material matter (like the brain), therefore spiritual God communicates with the human personality via the mind.
God’s sole role is to let all possibilities play out. There is no purpose to intervene. All possibilities must play out in order to gain new information. The notion of good or bad is irrelevant. Both are equally important to act as ingredients to gain information and thus a higher level of consciousness whether that is god or a collective conscience.
'How could God interact with the world?' How could a God interact with nature and have it still remain nature? To be natural means not having been tampered with.
Talking of 'God', an entity entirely unquantified, let alone proven. Confirmation bias in full flow here.
Other episodes deal with that concept, (in fact lots of episodes deal with that) the main guy often discusses his own conflicting feelings on the subject. Just look around the channel lol.
Lovely stories.
I’m so confused at how Robert assumes there is a God (hence a creator of the physical) and then suspends what is implied by such an assumption when it comes to interacting with the physical.
Very valid exclamation!
Spot on
In the 21st century the top religions are that say, we spend a little time here and then once we die, we get to spend an idle, lazy, useless, pointless existence for eternity while a magic being nicely caters to our comforts - oh BTW only if you make sure you get his name right!
Amazing that with all our education and intelligence that these are the religions that represent us
The failure of the media, the educated & the moral
This guy who did the video is so intelligent and educated and yet this is his religion
@@ramaraksha01 So sad that with all our education and intelligence that people still attack the man made of straw as if he were a real boy.
@@travishunt8999 Zero evidence of any such being but that is the not the frightening thing for me - it is the willingness to be Nazis
Whether people believe in their delusions or not makes no difference- Christians & Muslims are told because they believe, magic Sugar Daddy in the sky will give them an eternal life of comfort
Amazing that not even one educated theist sees a shameless prostitute/gigolo/leech in such a future
But why must everyone else suffer terribly? Makes no difference to them but yet "if you don't vote for our dear loving leader, who loves you so much & all he wants to do is keep you in nice comfort, he will send goons to break you in hell"
And amazingly not one educated person can see a Putin, Saddam, Hitler here
Billions of good human being set apart solely on belief and dumped into gas chambers in hell!
Made me sick when it was a black man - yep the same guy preaching to me on the evils of racism - telling me coolly that I was going to hell!
Change skin color to belief and he had no problem with Racist, Nazi ideas!
And such ideas can be shared OPENLY!
Makes me ashamed to be living in the 21st century - I have so much contempt for the moral and the philosopher and the media along with the educated
How is God not a physical being? since Jesus Christ is God and everything was made by him for him and through him.
With our hands and eyes, of course.
But, I think that the wrong question is formulated in the video. It's not how would God intervene in the world, but why would he. Are you suggesting that he could make any mistake, so that he has to do something about it?
Your difficulty Mr. Kuhn is that you are using human brain's way of thinking to figure out how the creator of this brain, God, intervene in universe He created. If the whole universe with its physical and biological laws were created by God (and we can never understand how), human can never understand how God is running it. The founder of Islamic Maliki Mazhab once said: We can understand that God is controlling the Throne that He created but understanding how He is doing it is beyond human comprehension.
Islam is a simple primitive religion that made God using their local King/Dictator as a template - "We must get down on our knees, swear loyalty(belief) & obedience, beg for his mercy, and hope for a reward(Heaven)"
Simple, primitive ideas of simple, primitive people being blindly followed
@@ramaraksha01 Obviously you don't know the essence of Islam. What get you to haven is accepting that the universe is created by Allah (god Almighty) which not much to ask (and demanded by the law of cause and effect). If you want to enter a country who demand that you have a visa, you obtain a visa and you sign to accept the country as an independent state and has its own law which you must not break. Allah is really merciful because He will judge you after you die. If you accept Him in this life, He will enters you His Paradise. If not, the only other place next life is Hell. You make your free choice before you die. Its the most important 50/50 risk management action you could ever make while alive. The universe was created 13.7 billion years ago and will die in less than 12 billion years from now. The founder will remain alive and replace it we will never know how as we never knew how the current universe came to exist and than exploded. Your soul (self awareness/conciseness) will never die and you will be given a new body and judged.
It basically comes down to “free will.” An unimaginable being that was here before time and will be here after time, bestowed upon us a gift that has given human kind the ability to establish it’s own God.
Where was Pharos free will when his heart was hardened? Satan knows god, had the free will to reject him- despite the fact that he knew god existed.. free will doesn’t solve the problem of divine hiddenness.. 💁🏻♂️👍🏼
@@rikidepear exactly my question
Free-will is a made up term by theists to put the blame on humans for all the bad sh*t that happens. Absolutely a bullsh*t term.
@@rogerbee697 : So is God to blame for all of man’s bad doings? Killing, wars, viruses, global warming, etc etc….sorry my friend, that’s all 100% humans’ fault, hence the flaw with free-will….which is the best and worst gift God gave us. Just my humble opinion, as a much flawed human myself.
@@wallyr.7854 that’s my fault, let me clarify. Free will is a made up term just like god(s) are made up being(s). I no longer believe your god, their god or any gods exist. Also, save the apologetics. I was a Christian for 21 years. I’ve heard it all. And it’s crap. I’ve accepted my mortality like an adult.
God is in and through everything, we walk on, breathe and consume the word of God daily.
Men can not limit God.
since there are no gods, they don't intervene ...
If you don't notice the intervention of God. it shows that you are created with massive observation limitations. If my cat and fish can't discover that if I don't provide them with food, they will be dead, it shows their limitation.
@@SIEACharity believing in gods is like believing in unicorns. there is no evidence whatsoever for ANY gods that cannot be explains naturally. you also believe there is no god but allah , what makes shiva, thor, odin, hanuman, manitu or the flying spaghetti monster any different?
@@joedoe3688 The cause and effect law is binding. We have a universe, because someone created it. This universe was created 13.7 billion years and due to losing heat & energy, it will be dead in less than 12 billion years. If the universe eternal, it should have died from eternity. Refusing the cause & effect law will not let you off arrest if the police find someone else's car in your garage because they will not believe that the car suddenly appeared in you garage.
If God acts through quantum effects then god's actions are random. I suppose this solves a problem for the people who don't like determinism.
Everyday there are tiny miracles, tiny miracles everyday equals big miracles***
We need big miracles like ending the pandemic.
We are god
I talk to the Universe****
7 adverts in twenty minutes wtf
One single molecule in my garden can change the world*****
"Any way I feel like at the time.
Sowing confusion is often just a bonus.
This Ain't A Scene, It's An Arms Race"
-Loki
Answer: the holy spirit
In one word:God is at a loss without us!!! Who's gonna pamper him..
That's 11 words. God is mad you can't count.
@@HereticHulk 😇😇😇
@@HereticHulk 😂🤣😂
1. Which god are your talking about? There are over 50,000+ of them invented by ignorant men over the centuries!
2. Define your chosen god.
3. Provide the required verifiable data, and empirical, science based evidence of its existence.
4. How does this god manifest itself in realty.
Attests worldwide are still waiting for any shred of verifiable data or empirical, science based evidence of any supernatural events or gods.
To date, none has been presented!!
God doesn't follow the laws of physics, He just commands: matter can be created or destroyed at once. The desired action, however, is carried out in the straightest and most immediate possible way, because being almighty means never using redundancy.
Your delusion is based on nothing.
@@Paine137 There's no delusion at all.
God cannot communicate with the world because our minds aren't open enough to understand the universe
God communicates with EVERYONE all the time. The problem is who listens?
I talk to matters***
To be omnipotent he has to be omnipresent .so in all religions philosophies God is present in each and every particles and space almost everywhere.
Why 'almost' everywhere? He/She/It IS EVERYWHERE. Remember that God is All that IS AND All that isn't.
The question of a spiritual being interacting with physical reality implies a long-standing dualism between the two. Very Cartesian and Western. But what if Thales was right and "all things are full of gods?" Or just One transforming into anything desired? I offer the following candidates for God: - Spectacles worn in the interviews. - The stained-glass tree in the background. - Goose the Cat in Captain Marvel. - Alanis Morisette in Dogma. - Random-seeming noises edited out of the final production. - Wonder Woman. - Maybe Borges was right and God underwent sacrifice so a little of God could live in all of us (and in everything we encounter). --Thanks for posting these conversations.
If God is eternal then it is just him, there is no distortion of His space when he interacts with us bc he is not in a space.
Also if Jesus is God in physical then he wouldnt be immaterial.
Simone Biles has some competition here 🤣
If our instructed influenced lessons lead to a God, then its obvious we'll believe in a God.
How can we ignore that humans are led by their influenced education and that's the main cause for the way of thinking and visualizing his world?
If we took some unnecessary instructions out, and look for other options that don't interrupt with the development of humans in general, I can imagine a better cooperative living.
Nothing is a powerful corollary even in defining the origins of faith, order of chaos etc.
Robert John Russell just insulted my intelligence. That’s what happens when you try to force religion to make sense with science.
Religions are man-made.
Know the wisdom before these were contaminated and realise your being before this being.
Which god?
Once the question is asked the interaction commence
Closer to Truth should have an intimate interview with Mauro Biglino.
It's probably hard to imagine you could not believe a billion people, like Islam. In the same way those billion people don't believe you.
Or, maybe everyone is wrong. Ya think.
The quantum field is a direct revelation of the infinite power of God. The quantum field is the relationship of energy and matter. God is the the result of these co concepts
@KlLL YOURSELF If God is creation itself, then God interacts directly
@KlLL YOURSELF Everything the ancients, scholars, Supernatural mysteries, the unexplained occurrences throughout isn't evidence enough?
God's very good at delegating... He has is Paradise Creator Sons, and Creative Mother Spirits to handle the administration of our universes. So called miracles are performed by angels. God's only real interaction with our world is via his indwelling spirit fragment, the still small voice, whose purpose is to guide us toward being more perfect.
And pray, what about accidents? - in the Miami tower that collapsed recently some young kids were also killed - who killed them? Angels?
And Covid19 - killing so many - who did that?
A slave mentality that says Master is perfect - Master can do no wrong
What about the opposite of miracles - the accidents, the diseases, even little children being raped and killed? Who did that?
It has been, always and will depend(ed/s) on how humans and/or AI define their gods.
Bob blew an excellent opportunity to be honest in an interview.
I've rarely seen such effort put into generating obfuscation.
How can someone do that with a straight face?
How does someone like that sleep at night?
God is a field of consciousness as we are without our body. Universe in its quintessence is also of the nature of consciousness. Matter is a sense construct. for short!
I don't think this is that complicated. Assume on independent grounds something like Aristotelian hylomorphism is true. That means that under EVERY physical reality is an immaterial form (again, Aristotelian, not Platonic). The upshot is that ALL physical events are manifestations of underlying immaterial realities, properly understood via efficient and final causality.
With that in mind, God is conceived of as pure form, and in particular, the Act of Acts. Since any effect is just the reduction of some potentiality to actuality, then then causal chain must necessarily terminate in something pure act, i.e., God. (That's roughly Aquinas' First Way, NOT the Kalam.)
So how does God do it? By the very act of being God. God just is that which is causing any and all effects at any time whatsoever. He is the Act of Acts. So He brings about the first act, which brings about the second, and the third, and so on in simultaneous causal chains until you have any observed effect whatsoever in the universe. Thus, actually, no God acting in the now means there is no now at all.
Aristotle is nonsense.
Patriarchal gods are about authority and dominance within human societies, not about understanding natural phenomena. Such gods are convenient ways to avoid questions since they can supposedly do anything, but that only raises more questions than it answers. Their promoters believe that we mere mortals have no business getting nosy about how the Almighty works his supernatural powers. Even gods must use physical methods to accomplish physical tasks, but the religious have no more curiosity about that than the child reading Jack And The Beanstalk worries about how the magic beans work.
❤👍😊✝️ God is all powerful nothing is too hard for him to do.
A Greek philosopher once asked if God could create a rock He could not lift. "Augustine argued that God could not do anything or create any situation that would, in effect, make God not God", quite from Wikipedia (Omnipotence paradox).
How can a man understand a almighty creator who lives outside time .
We don't know if universe is closed because we can't check the border of it
"How Could God Interact with the World?"
"Existing" would be a first requirement.
How can my immaterial mind interact with my material body?
How do truth, goodness and beauty (all are immaterial realities) bring light and life to my immaterial mind (and to my material body. I need beauty like I need oxygen.)
How can my immaterial will bring one potential future into existence rather than another?
I've no idea how, but these astonishing things happen all the time.
If immaterial minds exist, if immaterial ideas exist, if truth, goodness and beauty are transformative and vivifying, if immaterial will can transform potential into actual, I think the bold decision to set off in the dark and look for God would not only be justified, but the height of good sense.
Speculation is not by any stretch a portion of reality but is in fact the creation of one's own interpretation of reality until proven a fact. The closer the perception of reality the more the possibility of survivability of life and advancement/evolution of the species. Conciousness is still a mystery with no explanation to resolve the elusive mechanics/functions hiding its understanding from us along with the full/complete picture of reality. More questions with fewer forthcoming answers, wonder how far we can ultimately see.
How is speculation not real if you spend time considering it?
@@tleevz1 rofl speculation is real just not factual until proven to be so. I was not referring to speculation itself but the subjects being speculated about. It's like running scenarios, none can be real until certain criteria are met. Otherwise it's just imagination doing its job.
@@AndreiStoen Right on, I should have given it a little more thought. I see what you're saying.