Post-build Review: Dragon/Cyber-Hobby 6454 10.5cm Sturmhaubitze 42 Ausf.G w/ Zimmerit
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- This video will be a sort of review of the build of this Cyber-Hobby StuH 42, but mainly just how to correct it. Overall, a great kit to build - flawless fit, excellent detail, beautiful zimmerit texture, instructions are quite good - just not too great in the accuracy department if that even matters to you.
Summary of things I changed that you really should do:
- Corrected the fenders to Alkett-type
- Changed S-hooks out for C-hooks
- Corrected rear light to tubular-style one (parts are in kit)
- Used non-zimmerited engine deck hatches (parts are in kit)
- Removed engine coolant hatch under rear hull (modification of kit parts)
- Didn't put on hemispherical towing hub on rear plate (modification of kit parts)
- Added weld seam around cupola shot deflector and over gun reciprocator
- Added zimmerit to the top of the toolbox on engine deck
Summary of things I changed that don't really need to do:
- Added a metal gun barrel
- Added Alket-type steel return rollers (rubber ones are fine though)
- Added engine deck stowage rails (not every tank had these)
- Added early-type side skirts and brackets (you could also use the later-type too, that would make your tank March to May 1944, otherwise it's November 1943 to February 1944...also not every tank had these)
- Added empty tool clamps for towing cables
- Replaced loader's gun shield with one with a square hole (common of later tanks like this but not always)
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I can't believe how long you can talk about these things, no trouble at all talking about it for an hour. Good stuff!
Thank you!
"Evan, the Encyclopaedia of everything StuG" LOL! Unreal detailed walk-around of this kit. I really appreciate all of the modifications you've made. I agree it really makes the vehicle pop!
Keep up the great work! Cheers!
very detailed discussion, that will come handy for anyone who wants to know further details :)
You’re the StuG master! How in the world do you keep all that straight?! How do you look at a vehicle and know what month it was made, and what factory?! I’m amazed and humiliated every time I hear you talk about these amazing machines! :) Great job as always.
Great job buddy, building one as I type this, thanks for the details.
Thank you, hope it's helpful!
Wow my friend awesome looking build love the details. they do make a kit pop. Can't wait to see how you paint it up.
Interesting, I had this kit on an ebay watched list. Great build overview. Really enjoy your explanations of what you chose to do and why.
EDIT: Correction, I HAVE this kit now.
Thank you Steve!
Sorry for coming to the party late. I just purchased this kit, and am very thankful that you have produced this amazing video that will be of immense help when I go to building mine. Can you please confirm which aftermarket brass and aluminum barrel you used for the conversion? Thanks very much, and keep up the awesome work! Cheers
No worries. I used an RB Models barrel, but that set is now out of production sadly.
@@Panzermeister36 Good Morning: thanks so very much for the quick reply. That is unfortunate that RB has ceased production of this item, I will have to see if Aber has something similar, if no doubt more pricey. Keep up the awesome modeling, and videography, I always look forward to your latest installments! Cheers from New Zealand
just finished building 'hobo franz' kit 6488,it also had the wingnuts.There were loads and they looked great if a bit delicate.I Put some pdw in cab with radios with some gas masks and water bottles.Added a couple of racks on rear of fighting compartment.A couple of brass trays for magazines(gen2 mp40s and kar98 and bolts.Scored up the wood panneling so it had some splits between planks.And thinned down ammo crate added some pe hinges and catches and hung some binoculars on catch of front hatch.Lovely build and it was cheap.No winterketten though..I also just finished brummbar mid with the 4 spare wheel holding wire frame.I know brummbars wore out rubber road wheels a lot,front and rear.I have a bag of roadwheels with the seperate tyres and rims(about 8) i was wondering if you had any suggestions of how to show them worn from weight damage instead of just wear.And wether i should use them on tank as well as in rack worn out,or just two worn and two new ones in the rear wire rack.Would be nice to show off rim behind tyre for the contrast between metal and rubber.And this seems best kit for utilising the opportunity of these particular wheels.Yours is a facsimile not a model,a testament to the time youve put in building and researching.Cheers.This sturmhaube42 is on my list after my ryefield panther and 'hummel' .....W/....winterketttennnnnn.....arrive.Still on vk3601.have fun.
good job and congratulations for the 20,000 sub. Regards my friend
Thank you!
Great review ! 👍👍👍
Excellent work as usual. I'm off to throw my models in the bin 😭
Mark Burgess ROFLMAO !!!
Wow, your the Best.
Aaaawesome! 👍👌👏😍
NOW I know why I can’t get my gun into the hull! UGH!!
Not a fan of Dragon.
I really like the different muzzle brake and steel rollers.
You always seem to make each StuG different. Never a “cookie cutter” build video.
I appreciate that.
Hi buddy, small question maybe you can answer about the engine hatches you done there? Rite I bought that rebox das werk 42 kit of this it's got a few parts with zim and without the rear engine hatches have the zim under the heat sink pannals whare you cut one in half there and the under cover pannals are just normal plate is that the way they were? I have watched a private collector's collection on TH-cam and they have one of these stugs with the zimmerit but not the waffle just panther square but it's all over the rear deck under the raised pannals? I'm going with the steel return rollers too I've got the stug 3 G dragons 6 day war version I'm stealing parts from but there's 3 different types of return rollers in that kit! 2 types of steel on the rubber maybe do it with one different steel roller for interest but I do know there was alot of inaccuracies with the dragon kit before don't know of the re release of das werks one has fixed issues? Looks a really good kit that zimmerit is just amazing eh!
Hello :) Yes this waffle zimmerit pattern (which is the pattern used at the ALKETT factory) did not have zimmerit on the engine deck hatches, except for the half of the hatch that does not have the raised panel. I used spare parts from this kit to get the parts without zimmerit, and I cut the hatches in half to get that one hatch that is half-zimmerit and half plain.
The other pattern of zimmerit you are talking about from the video is the 2cm waffle pattern which is the pattern used at the MIAG factory. Those vehicles have different features and also MIAG never built StuH, only StuG. And you're right that this pattern is similar to the zimmerit on Panthers...MIAG factory also built Jadgpanther so they used the Panther zimmerit pattern on their StuG too.
When I saw Das Werk was re-releasing this kit last year I emailed them about the issues but they said they were not interested in correcting any of them since that's up to the modeler if they want the kit to be super-correct (some modelers don't mind).
What major difference does the Sturmhaubitze have from the sturmgeschutz?
Nothing apart from the gun and the ammunition stowage. StuH is a 105mm gun, StuG is a 75mm.
Plz stop making me want to get stugs! !!! I happy
Halo mannen me to brother !
Ennis Anderson yes brother
I know right! Have to hide my wallet from myself when I watch Evan's videos!
Steve Jones his name is evan!??!
Halo mannen Yes. Although he might prefer Panzermeister36. I got a little informal. or maybe he should be StuGmeister36! :D
Hi bud can I get your help on a stug 3 ausf G I bought yesterday plz? It's the newer das werk of maybe this stug it's the 2 in 1 it says on box with zim! O opened it up and was having a look and noticed it only has the rubber return rollers in the kit for and early I have the Arab G from dragon that has the 6 holes steel rollers in it spare so robbed them but now thinking if I do the das werk with the long 75m with zim and steel rollers oh and it's only come with the square block type mantlet!? Early again if I have done my research the arab dragon kit has the sourcluf type I can use but now I'm muddled up with it can it really be a 2 in 1 kit with just the early type parts or am I completely off the point and missing something? Any help is great before I start this kit not sure now if to do the das werk the early with the zim square mantlet and rubber rollers now and do the Arab stug the late
Hello. I sure can help :)
You're on the right track there. If you want to, you can use the cast mantlet and steel return rollers. But you don't actually need to. Remember zimmerit is more of a mid-war feature than a late-war one. That waffle zimmerit pattern was introduced in December 1943, and the cast mantlet was only introduced in October 1943, but never on all vehicles. We actually still see the early bolted mantlet being used throughout the whole war even to the last days. Maybe only 20% of StuG ever had the cast "saukoft". And the rubber return rollers were still used until about July 1944.
So you don't actually need to give the kit steel rollers or the cast mantlet. You can if you want to, but it's not required. Germany was always being held back by production during the war and so older features were still being used up on newer tanks.
The things missing in the Das Werk kit that really should be there are side skirts, since those were added long before zimmerit was being applied to tanks. Also, the kit gives the wrong type of fender supports to match the factory that would have built it with the zimmerit pattern provided....but now we are getting into the very picky details here.
So to wrap it up, you can add the cast "saukopf" mantlet and steel return rollers if you want to, but you can also use the standard parts too. But you should also add the side skirt fittings as well, for sure.
I think they call the kit 2-in-1 because you can build it as a 75mm gun vehicle ("Sturmgeschütz) or as the 105mm howitzer variant "Sturmhaubitze".
@@Panzermeister36 that's great thank bud! I have the arab dragon stug 3 the 6 day war one I can use some parts from iv been watching Hillary duff's video's getting my info from there but I watch alot of your stuff and know you know your stuff! I'll need to make a new channel and start showing my work some time I just can't do videos haha I have the new RFM panzer 4 with full interior and the m4a3 full interior most my stuff is German I left a message on another one of your videos that is the exact same kit das werk just released they state it's new parts and updated parts but the sprues are exactly the same even still has the 105cm breach greyed out so only using the 7.5 breach on a 105, and yeah I know about the zimmerit time frame that's one thing I do keep in perspective for time frames the zimmerit is beautiful t isn't it! Thats going to nice when all painted up
hey, what colour did you spray your bmp1, and what wilder oil paint did you use to enhance the green?
I've actually been filming a video on painting and weathering it. I just haven't touching the thing in a year, so that's kinda stuck half-done. I may just upload it as a sort of "Part 1" thing. So to answer, I used XF-71 and XF-65 for the camouflage (with an initial layer of XF-14 to be exposed during the hairspray chipping). For oils on the green, I mainly used Wilder's Dark Yellow, Light Buff, Blue Patina, and Olive Green.
thats a 50/50 mix of 71 and 65 right?
No it has a faint camo pattern. I painted it with XF-65 first and then went back in with XF-71 (which is a little lighter) and painted it as to leave spots of the XF-65 showing through as darker camo blobs. So I did it in a kind of reversed way; usually you'd do the base (XF-71) first and then paint the camo blobs over that (XF-65).
I don't model any more, but when i did, I hated the Mitt Zimmerit models, because that defeated the purpose for me: Applying my own Zimmerit as part of the painting process. I also added cement "Armor" and side logs to them, as sie crews did to customize their unique vehicles. There was no Standard Zimmerit pattern, because it was applied by the crews, in this way. I also added a commander's machinegun turret to one, the Kommand vehicle for the Squad (A SturmHaubitze, and another SturmGeschütz) for visibility. And defense with the MG42, and protection for the Kommand vehicle. (Also, a Radio aileron) Honestly, I don't know why more Infantry Support Divisions didn't do this, because a Coaxial isn't all that effective against anyone you're not pointed at, and a roof mounted one exposes the Kommander, who also need to See the 2 vehicles at his Kommand. If I were High Kommand, I probably would have sent a Panzer III, StuG III, and StuH to support each Infantry Battalion, for flexibility, but I wasn't consulted. The Nazis did a lot of things that didn't make sense.
I also had a lot of Half Tracks. The only vehicle that out-produced the StuG III/StuH in World War II. We mostly did it for tabletop wargaming, anyway. I picked sei Deutchebags, because i really liked their Vehicles. My brother had an equivalent force of Shermans, and M-3 Half Tracks. Our original system was based on Battleship, with a literal sandbox, and a box cut in half to use as screens while we set upo fortifications, and green Army Men. It pretty much snowballed from there... My Sturmhaubitze started out a StuG III kit, as well.
+Psiberzerker there certainly were standard Zimmerit patterns. It was applied at the factory to the vehicles when they were being built before they were painted. Zimmerit was rarely applied to older vehicles that were still in service but were built before Zimmerit was being applied at factories, but it was never done by crews. It's a myth just like crews painting camouflages on their vehicles. This was all done at repair depots by work crews who had specialized equipment. The Germans standardized everything.
Later StuG III also had a remote controlled machine gun on the roof added like you described. Very few had coaxial guns.
Intetesting video.
You said that if someone want to build StuH need to buy StuG July 44. This vehicles had the same gun mantlets or this kind contains corrected one for StuH. 10.5 need bigger hole in the mantlet than 7.5, isn't it?
+Mateusz Szefer A little bit bigger hole but not much. I'd just widen it with a hobby knife or something, or buy the Panzer Art mantlet with the barrel to make it easier.
Where do you buy your kits from??
Sprue Brothers or my local hobby shop.
I don't know when you're going to see this, BUT making Zimmerett isn't really that difficult. You can you a number of tools and techniques. They even make tools JUST for that. Tamiya makes a set I think Lion Roar did at one point. Some have dies and some have others But to recreate that on the back you could have used apoxie sculpt and built up a thick enough layer for your toolbox and just pressed that die you showed into it and whalla
You can also try wood putty from www.walmart.com/ip/Elmer-s-Carpenter-s-Wood-Filler-Stainable-Interior-Exterior-16-0-OZ/17011274?wmlspartner=wmtlabs&adid=22222222222025240368&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=o&wl2=c&wl3=10356704213&wl4=pla-4578503894531141&wl5=&wl6=&wl7=&+wl10=Walmart&wl12=17011274_10000004242&wl14=elmer%27s%20wood%20filler&veh=sem&msclkid=a26da51481a61a193368fa72762ee7e0
Great videos and big help for someone getting back into the hobby after over 20 years and boy have things changed!. You mention 6633 which appears to have disappeared off the face of the earth. I have ordered 6644 but do you have any views as to a suitable alternative? Also what would you recommend for an early, up to E and a IV?
+Derek Shores yeah, 6633 is very rare now. 6644 is also a very good kit. Dragon doesn't really have any good modern kits for the earlier StuG with the short gun. I would recommend the Bronco StuG III kits for Ausf.C to E. Tamiya makes a good Ausf.B. The older Dragon kit from the 1990s is the only option for an Ausf.A but it's not a bad kit. Just watch out for the modern Dragon Ausf.E and D kits. They're not good.
I'm actually not a big fan on StuG IV but the Dragon kits are good here. Some Dragon kits come with molded-on zimmerit like this, and some are missing it. All early production and I think all mid production StuG IV should have zimmerit. Late production don't need zimmerit. Dragon makes a late, a mid, and an early all without zimmerit, and they make I think both early and mid also with zimmerit...though maybe only actually one of those two. I built the early without zimm a while ago and it was good, but I didn't give it zimm.
@@Panzermeister36 Thanks for the advice it is much appreciated. I had been avoiding Bronco kits as had heard they were over complicated and watched Adams review of the PzIII A and he was not impressed!! Will have a look for the latest Bronco StuG III E which seems to be about my level for the time being. Also thanks for the heads up regarding some modern Dragon kits which is something I recall you have remarked on before and will have a hunt around on Scalemates as well as checking out your previous reviews.
+Derek Shores yeah bronco kits are generally very complicated and poorly engineered. However, some of their kits are quite the opposite, and their StuGs are great examples. They build a lot like Tamiya.
@@Panzermeister36 will compare it with 6644 when it arrives. I think it is the base C/D kit for your up-gunned StuG. Am also looking out for Cyber-Hobby 1944 Mid G 6412 when it comes down in price! Many thanks again for the advice. Your weathering tutorials are the go to ones on my phone when I'm in my modelling shed!!
dude im painting an israeli magach, with 3 50cal machine guns, whats a half decent tamiya gun color, most of tamiyas metallics suck, and flat black doesnt feel right
I think they have something like X-18 iron? No idea...
I would paint them flat black and then use graphite for metallic shine
righto, thanks for the timely reaspose though