I am definitely no socialist but when A.I. and automation take 2 thirds of the world's jobs then Universal Basic Income shouldn't even be a discussion, we have no choice it HAS to be implemented
@@victorywarren5342 Yup, the planned DEPOPULATION is coming, within the next 6 years. 2025, I think the global population will have been culled by HALF.
Do you believe in free school? Then you are a socialist. I don't understand what you guys in the states know as socialism. It's so strange and yes our taxes play for a National Helth System. Still, don't understand how you guys don't have a simple system as that.
We already have socialism but only for the rich do you think that the mean spirited people in politics and power will have any mercy on the people that they will call useless eaters they will definitely cull the population they claim they are against abortion but have no problem killing children with drones in other countries not much of a leap to do it in the United States to the poor people who are considered useless eaters and a drain on the tax money they could be stealing for themselves
And are we still going to need all of the useless politicians that do nothing for us anyway??? Let’s get some robots to take the place of the jerks in Washington first thing and let the robots sort out our country because the politicians are so divided corrupt selfish greedy mean spirited jerks and we can definitely get by better without them so let the robots become politicians LoL
We as a society need to change how we think as a whole. The old days of everyone needs/should work need to go out the window. Or at the very least the definition of what work is. Arguably the only thing computers wont be able to replace is human contact. We need to focus more on taking care of the elderly. Helping our communities, and frankly helping the human race become better. Taking away income/wealth in the traditional sense is the only way to really move forward as human beings. We are going in that direction whether by choice or not. But hopefully we can find ways to fix it without anyone suffering in the process.
WAKE UP people. There are people starving in Africa right now. Meanwhile, some people say that humans need to pull a load, that humans need responsibility. Modern Americans are focused on survival instead of thrival. Some, both American and European, resist robot UBI society and want to hold on to their jobs. But we NEED to help the starving people of the world. What better way for people to still have to work, while also having a robot UBI? Robots do most of the work of the first world, while all the humans that lost their jobs get new jobs in Africa. Its the ONLY rational thing that makes any sense. To delay the advancement of robots, is to prolong the suffering of humanity.
This is why we need Andrew Yang for President in 2020! He has solutions that will not slow progress but will help humanity transition to a future world.
Sylph Moon Its better then not doing shit about this economic technological transformation. At least someone’s got an idea. Better than watching the country going into poverty.
@@garyrodgers7883 Look, don't feed the Troll, or he won't get back under his bridge... I think OP put it quite well. You ever seen "The Expanse", by any chance? Where they went to Earth?
Instead of trying to maintain the status quo, we should be trying to adapt to the changes that the automation will bring. Think ahead, not backwards!!!
but you need to think backwards and connect every possible sitatuation that has ever happen in human history that will fit the puzzle of the future, sure its easy to think ahead but what about all the wires that leave a messy trail that lead you there??
It is necessary to understand the problem. This new innovation is not just some funky clunky machine that just improves the work of a human , for example street cleaning car improved the capacity of cleaning workers which means same amount of workers are working but cleaning more surface area. When fully robotics comes ALL JOBS will be replaced which means all cleaning workers will be jobless. This will not happen just for the jobs like cleaning driving warehouse workers , low skill required jobs but will happen to ALL JOBS doctors engineers lawyers . It will pass the point of a person is just being unable to have skills for the job but there will be NO JOB. I am electrical engineer. I designed comissioned installed automation systems which improved efficiency of workers, same workers who was working for that job was just geting educated about the automation system and he starts to operate the automation system and his efficiency is improved and all facility produces more and becomes more echonomical and profitable. But the new industrial revolutions will totally replace the workers. That is the main problem.
to systematically transfer wealth to the elite. you have to keep spending (either via inflation or normal means) but have no income. 80 people now own 50% of the worlds assets, that wasn't true 100 years ago. Do the math.
Ubi duh. Everyone will earn 200k annually if everything is split equally. It won't even be taxed if robots run everything. That won't happen though because of the rich 1%
UBI doesn't hurt motivation to work. UBI would/should cover basic living costs like food and utilities. The drive to work comes from wanting to better one's living standards. Sure, some would be content with living off of just what UBI would bring them, and there's nothing wrong with that. But to assume that people are inherently lazy is demonstrably false
Exactly, we don't need 90% of the population to be innovators, infact I beleive UBI will be a catalyst for innovations as it will remove the road blocks for people who want to innovate,
"No one works under UBI" is a false statement. Politicians will still work, engineers who service robots still work, artists will still create art. And if no one would work there's would be no point of having money or prices. Most likely robots will abolish tiring, repetitive and not creative jobs which are not dream jobs anyway. Robotisation will reduce prices of basic commodities so everyone could work less and have more time for themselves. Nathan Patrick is right, though no one would force you to work with whip, but if your UBI will depend on politician decisions and politics decide not to give you UBI no more, you would either die from starvation or do whatever job to survive which sounds pretty much like slavery for me. Next time think more than one step ahead.
edmundas919 When it comes to humans as a group, there is no absolutes. So you're right, the word "nobody" cannot mean 100% zero people work. I used it as a metaphor in everyday language to mean many many people. I suspect there will always be work but it will no longer be based on the need to feed ourselves or provide for basic needs. The government does not have a choice but to provide UBI, which they take from robots to give to humans (therefore fair, not like welfare). No UBI will result in revolution and bloodshed no matter how powerful the government is. Look what happened to the Russian Czar, the Emperor of China, the King of France, etc. back in the day. Were they able to "enslave" their people for long? Also, today's technology allows people to switch to using crypto-currency for the few niceties that require human hands to produce, hence will cost. The government cannot control crypto-currency. Anything robots can produce will be (must be) free or death will result for those in charge. History has shown that to be true. Even slavery in America did not last forever, did it? YOU, my friend, need to think longer term than just a few years from now. I am talking 30, 40, 50 - 100 years from now.
nonreligionist You are right. When AI takes over most jobs, the only ones left would be creative jobs - jobs that cannot be done by AI (at least in the foreseeable future). That is actually wonderful because we are supposed to be civilized humans, not animals that must salvage for food every single day. Most people today have not realize that yet. They still think humans must labor for our existence like animals. Shameful!
Well. Guess I'll go to school to learn how to fix robots. Oh wait... They might build robot mechanics to make and fix other robots.. Smh. Just can't win for losing. 😔
This doc doesn’t at all give UBI justice. They don’t explain or even analyse the main talking points for and against it. UBI won’t damage motivation, because the amount given for UBI shouldn’t be enough to live an enjoyable and luxurious life, it should be enough to survive. By our own human nature, we find little contentment with just surviving. We like to acquire more than we need, and aspire to higher goals. As a result, UBI won’t remove the motivation to work, it will only give people the tools necessary to develop the skills required to access higher paying jobs.
actually theres already been social experimentation with this UBI style system. And it's largely failed....as it will in the future heres one story of it failing to produce results in Finland www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43866700
It’ll have to gradually be more. The goal shouldn’t be to sustain work, at least not traditional forms of work. People should be freed up to do what they want.
its better that people has the guns instead of having guns in hands of few. If i was in america i would start stockpiling rpg-6 by masses :D Old tech that would destroy any shıt hightech bot with old style aiming.
With Feminism they destroyed the family, if they take away men's ability to live and work and don't replace it with anything, for sure there will be a civil war unlike the world has ever seen.
When you give people free money it might give them "no incentive to work", but remember, the robots HAVE all of our "jobs"!! Where is the work for those who ARE incentivized??!!
@@dreamteam2320 Read Andrew Yang's book "The War on Normal People". He's believes UBI is necessary in moving our country forward and he is personally funding a $1000/m UBI for 3 families. This is not a lie, he puts his money where his mouth is.
We should be asking ourselves one fundamental question. Why is the loss of a job a source of chaos and violence in the lives of people, _especially_ when their task is being done by better technologies? This brings us slowly to the source of the problem: people don't work to produce, or even to innovate. Most people work for survival value. This means any form of change is itself a form of violence. Look at coal country; coal is dying -- it's dying faster under Trump than Obama -- with fracking and solar, with a sprinkle of automation taking it all away. They all ran to Donald Trump solely because of a jobs restoration campaign. Suffice to say, even allowing people to fall for such cons emphasizes people will do anything, and fall for anything, so long as we say "lol here are da jobs lol". The fundamental problem technology shows us is so long as we demand jobs for survival value, the future is a game of musical chairs, and people who don't have a seat get tossed into a ditch. And every session of this game happens faster and faster. "If you have no job, you have no life" is the toxic mantra we live by. It is quite literally squandering lives. This "liberation" for labor is anything but.
I find our obsession with work ridiculous. Don't give people jobs just for the sake of it. We need people to do what needs to be done to run society. When that's taken care of, let people live their lives. Replace most of our welfare with UBI, $1000 a month for the lower and middle classes, let's get it done. If people want nice things they will have to find a second source of income, but eating and paying rent should be a given.
Correct, here is the end game: Once (practically) unlimited production is achieved, mass de-population will be enacted by the elites against the 'useless eaters' so as to conserve the resources and ecology of the planet for the genetically enhanced super-rich to enjoy. 99%+ of humanity will be done away with.
@@lastsonofkrypton3918 That's why they're rolling out 5G without testing it for health effects first. Because 5G and I.O.T. (Internet of Things) will be used as a WEAPON. Many scientists, physicists, weapons experts, and such like (tens of thousands of them) are warning about the biological health effects of millimeter wave frequencies on the non-ionizing spectrum. They will not only be used to track, monitor and even reprimand you remotely, but the closely connected antennae and towers next to homes along with small chips on every device or even piece of clothing, will emit too much for our bodies to handle, especially children and babies. A weapons expert from the UK named Mark Steele has already won a court case in Gateshead, U.K. stating that 5G is a weapon and will not only kill us humans, but will kill all biological life, such as birds, pollinators, animals, trees, etc.. We all thought the Terminator Sky-Net would come equipped with anthropomorphic steel skeleton robots with glowing red eyes, when it was really just these cell towers with LED streetlights, which would soft kill us within the next decade, due to cancers from the frequencies. The 1G through 4G of telecommunications and WiFi were just the frog boiling us slowly in the pot, until they whipped out 5G which is the true NEW WORLD ORDER and will wipe out 95% of a humanity anywhere that it's allowed to be rolled out. It officially rolls out in most places, especially in China and America, next year in 2020. So we don't have much time left!
10:28 Love is hard to explain. Only a handful of the greatest wordsmiths have been able to evoke powerful, loving emotions. Hence, history has proven that words rarely do it justice. Love is an action that can be displayed in so many ways. Working long hours, sacrifice of the body, holding hands, and so many other displays. In this case, love came falling from this man's eyes.
This will go down the middle of next decade when everyone is zoned-out on VR and legal pot. They'll see it on the news one day and be like, "Duuude...wait, what?"
One tech guru said " It's going to get ugly ".. cause millions of people will lose their jobs and fall back jobs will no long exist either and anybody who thinks 1K a month of Yang money or UBI will come even close to offsetting lost wages , you're living in a dream world.
The increased displacement of workers by robotics and AI will begin a deflationary cyclic due to a decrease in aggregate demand and consumption. And then what? A dystopic , subsistence agrarian society?
It should be a tax on corporations; give them no financial incentive to automate, where it displaces a lot of workers. So when the corporations that rub their hands together thinking "we can save a crapload of money by sacking all our workers and replacing them with robots." they will be making an improvement of maybe 10% instead of the 60-70% they were hoping for. As a truck driver, the thought of being displaced by an AI pisses me off
If they can save 10% by replacing you, they will replace you and save 10%. After all, if they could buy fuel for 10% less, wouldn't they? Ah, but here's something: right now, they can't replace you with an AI at any price. The tech just isn't there yet. And when it first becomes available, it'll probably only save them 10% or even only 5%, even with no "robot tax" at all. Add the tax and it probably isn't worth it to replace you with the first AI which, technologically, can. Taxing robot labor will make automation more expensive, which means you're still getting replaced, but it'll take longer, which means you might hit retirement first, or at the worst you have a little more time to retrain. And, since it takes longer, the tech will be better when it finally does happen and, if it's driving great big trucks all over the road, then I want it to be *very* good first.
In a place as vast and unforgiving as Australia, said automation would have to literally be a humanoid robot behind the wheel. Why? Because in places such as northern Australia, mechanical assistance could literally be hundreds of miles away. It could take hours, sometimes even a day to get help. Something as simple as a blown tyre or an oil leak suddenly becomes a big issue This is also a reason why electric trucks in their current form won't work here either. The range is way to short to make it. That fancy Tesla truck doesn't have enough armour up front to keep kangaroos, cattle, camels, wedge tailed eagles and other animals out of the grille
Again: Even if you have to have a human being on board, because Australia big, you only need ONE whereas now you have TWO. You wouldn't need to have two humans taking turns, just one human hanging around for those few times that he's needed. And how often does that happen? Sending a mechanic a thousand Km every dozen or so trips might be cheaper than having a human being on *every* trip. And again, even if you must have Mr. Human on every truck every time (probably not), you only need *one* aboard each truck, not *two.*
Karl Marx, 𝘊𝘢𝘱𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘭, 1867: "The division of labour develops this labour-power in a one-sided way, by reducing it to the highly particularised skill of handling a special tool. When it becomes the job of the machine to handle this tool, the use-value of the worker’s labour-power vanishes, and with it its exchange-value. The worker becomes unsaleable, like paper money thrown out of currency by legal enactment. The section of the working class thus rendered superfluous by machinery, i.e. converted into a part of the population no longer directly necessary for the self-valorisation of capital, either goes under in the unequal context between the old handicraft and manufacturing production and the new machine production, or else floods all the more easily accessible branches of industry, swamps the labour-market, and makes the prices of labour-power fall below its value...When machinery seizes on an industry by degrees, it produces chronic misery among the workers who compete with it. Where the transition is rapid, the effect is acute and is felt by great masses of people."
The problem isn't technology. It is people who don't want to change. A 75% surcharge on corporations, and a flat tax of 6% for small business and private workers - with no exceptions - no tax credits and no subsidies could allow us to get through this quite easily - but as always - everybody is self interested instead of cooperating.
What's necessary is online accelerated, self-motivating education. Staring partly at secondary school with practise in companies. Which would drastically reduce cost, man hours put in teaching people as well as time spent learning. So it would be totally possible to drastically cut expenses for education and finally stop supporting that money printing school system... We could make those people pay for it, cause it would be far cheaper and equally available to poor Bangladeshian and middle class kid from USA
One person said there are not enough people to do the work. Retail has a high turn over, low pay, not much room for upward mobility. Plus, where inventory is concerned, you need to prevent losses and aim for accuracy. Therefore, robots and computers solve the problem. They don't demand a high pay and the reduce mistakes. And where inventory is concerned, mistakes mean money. Dare I say, "Follow the money or follow the robots to the money?"
Another problem is that robots aren't consumers, and businesses will invest in robots only if they can receive returns on their investments, which means higher sales expected from consumers who buy using money earned from jobs where robots might be used.
When I was in high school, I thought to myself, I don't want to be a factory worker only to be replaced by a machine. Instead I will be the one fixing the machine. I thought this when I was in middle school in 1986. If you don't think you don't live. If you don't educate your self you will not see what is coming. I thank my mother that bought me a technological encyclopedia when I asked for it. And I thank God for giving me the wisdom to listen to my intuition and lastly to Mazinger Z and Robotech who inspired me to go into robotics.
We should pay teachers more, then pay everyone else based on their level of education. There should still be a base income for everyone with options to make more from there. This way human beings still have incentive to be active and practice self development. Otherwise we'll just be livestock. If you've been to a zoo recently you know the tole a life without work can take on the psyche of a creature designed for work. They sit there looking lethargic and unengaged. I imagine depression, stress, and anxiety would go through the roof. These conditions are already running rampant in younger generations due to the conveniences of our modern lives. This education should not be purely academic, but knowledge in all fields so we don't lose our ability to be self sufficient. Once labor is taken care of by machines, we will be able to focus on social development in other areas. We can devote our best minds to improving spiritual, physiological, emotional, and moral issues. We will also retain the skills necessary in case of a global catastrophe, whether natural or man made.
We already have the technologies that will allow us to make this transition successfully and create a social structure for the future that is on the horizon. Resource based economies and techno socialism created through the utilization of block-chain technology (cryptocurrency, distributed platforms, smart contracts, etc...) now we just need to create the organizations to spread and implement this across the world. One thing you can do right now is get off of TH-cam and start using Steemit. its like Facebook , TH-cam, or reddit except it is a distributed platform where people get paid for the content that they create.
I HAVE A SOLUTION: Decrease the work time to fit the lesser demand. Then we can all start enjoyin life, be less stressed and have more time for family, friends and creativity.
I think the only real solution to the robot problem is that people will have to own or lease the robots from the companies that do the work otherwise there will literally be no one to buy any of the products they move around
I have been pushing idea's this one among them , but it doesn't reach many people. UBI should have been implemented 15 years ago. Philosophers give input and it takes up to half a century sometimes at the latest for the idea/thought process to travel into society. Governments really need to have a position for us philoshopher's. Sure your technology is good but you're behind socially. Year 2000s but still conducting 1800s-early1900s social wise.
Absolutely. If only the people in noticed things like the fact we're suffering from Nietsche's Death of God problem and so on. I really relate to what Socrates/Plato said: "Until philosophers are kings, or the kings and princes of this world have the spirit and power of philosophy, and political greatness and wisdom meet in one, and those commoner natures who pursue either to the exclusion of the other are compelled to stand aside, cities will never have rest from their evils - no, nor the human race, as I believe - and then only will this our State have a possibility of life and behold the light of day."
who's going to be able to buy the products from your automated factories when everyone is automated out of a job? I guess just the 1 percent hopefully they buy a lot of stuff to keep your companies in business
I still have a job. I am German and live in Germany. Germany might be a step behind the U.S., I don't know. But this film shows what is coming. What am I to do when unemployment will strike me too? Shall I also buy a motorhome? Live in warmer states of Europe? Will automation cause turmoil and riots of unprecedented strength?
Alot of people don't like their jobs. If you got paid without the hassle of having a job you could spend you're time achieving other things like a hobby and the more you perfect your hobby what ever it may be you could earn extra cash by passing on your knowledge or selling things you make like music - video games - art the list is endless anything you enjoy doing their would be others that enjoy the same thing or would like what ever it is that you make. Even if you don't charge for what ever it is you have to offer you could still profit from it from advertisement. You make a youtube video you could earn money from the companys that pay to have their adds on youtube same thing could be done with spotify etc if you don't want adds you pay a small fee and say on youtube a percentage of the profit will go to the people who make the videos. and thats just bonus money also as technology improves all living costs will reduce. It's pure freedom to achieve your dream without the hassle of working your whole life earning money for someone else doing something you don't want to do
sounds great...however its just not going to work like that. they're going to kill our jobs. then were going to kill each other; as they watch from their computers. hell even music and video games will be automated in the future do your research pal...we're all becoming obsolete farm/manufacturing equipment. And just like the lions of south africa we'll be left to feed off of eachother. i mean look robots are already doing lots of art, music and entertainment; they're even taking sex worker jobs already?! wake up folks! 2030'S shit will get real and 60% or more of existing jobs will be gone on a planet with 9.5 billion people!!! the only thing you'll see making a come back is cannibalism and genocide.
Automation, efficiency and productivity are the goals, not the worst case scenarios,... but for capitalism and greed. When we have tuition free education, universal healthcare and a livable universal basic income, making capitalism relatively irrelevant, we will be free to embrace the automation revolution. It may be (and should be, of course) the great equalizer, despite the fears of the opposite. This is an #EqualityRevolution!
Nathan Patrick Not having to work to be able to access goods and services is ''the worst possible outcome for humanity''?? lol Your fear is extraordinary. Productivity is a good thing. Sharing that excess productivity in a way that people no longer have to suffer and live in fear is a better definition of wealth than whatever greed-filled world you're defending. With the freedom a UBI brings, free education, internet, 3D printer access, etc, we will all be empowered to be creators and producers from home or wherever we want to be, and yes, we should all grow a lot of our own food too including in our schools.
Under "free education" and "free healthcare", how do doctors and nurses live, since nobody pays them? How are hospitals built? Oh, I know. Because it's actually not "free". It's built by the money that is forcefully taken from the people by the government.
@@utku8233 You have a problem with the roads the government builds for you ? Or the fundamental research the government pays for ? Those are the same kind of 'free'. Lots of countries have been doing that for decades for healthcare and education and it works just fine. But let's be very clear: computing, automation and machine learning and robotics will take away a whole slew of tasks doctors and nurses do today. So it's possible we'll have less of them in the future as well.
sorry pal even free education and health care wont save us from this automated future. the internet is already making universities and colleges obsolete
Communism, capitalism, socialism, etc will become outdated concepts of no worth. UBI is the lie we are being fed to keep us complacent. End game: Once (practically) unlimited production is achieved, mass de-population will be enacted by the elites against the 'useless eaters' so as to conserve the resources and ecology of the planet for the genetically enhanced super-rich to enjoy. 99%+ of humanity will be done away with.
Without Universal Basic Income, the wealth disparity and poverty would become extreme, this could stabilize in a dystopia of poverty for most with luxury for the few or fall into civil chaos, also without UBI, the economy would stagnate as the consumer base shrinks. However, how should UBI be deployed? Should it be unconditional or conditional, should it simply be the same income for everyone or adjusted by the region people live in, should it even be funds or tokens for residence, food, clothes and transportation? Should UBI be funded by strictly corporate taxes or targeted to the level of automation? Should the taxes be scaled to corporation size? Should minimum wage be dropped where UBI is provided? Should UBI be just the bare minimum or should there be enough of a surplus to fund entrepreneurship? Should our process of identifying people be strengthened to minimize abuse, should biometrics be recorded or people chipped, should ID cards be encrypted smart cards like they have in Europe? Should there be outreach programs to identify people who would otherwise slip through the system. Should there be inspections and evaluations by social workers on those who appear to be demotivated? How will the taxation and the UBI affect investment by corporations? The job loss due to automation has been with us for 6,000 years ever since agriculture created cultures of those with resources and those who work for resources to live but the job loss has been increasing exponentially, the hourly wage to cost of living ratio peaked in 1974, although our population has increased since the 70's, the number of secured jobs in the US have not, yes there has been job growth but in ever more precarious jobs. If you think there will always be jobs that can not be automated then you are in denial, if you believe that new jobs would be enough to replace jobs lost then you are just fooling yourself and others. I think that we will probably wind up with some minimal and unfair version of UBI resulting in a stable but more dystopic future of poverty greater than what we have now. It would take remarkable leadership both in government and large corporations to strive for less poverty than we have now even though overall prosperity, and productivity would be higher both for the working public and the corporations themselves. I really think we'll just shoot ourselves in the foot through resistance to the UBI concept instead of working out how it could be done.
A robot tax wouldn’t stop innovation. It would provide revenue to give a universal basic income to those displaced by robots. Companies still make HUGE profits, but people aren’t left to starve. What kind of monster would put a little profit over thousands of lives?
But why should those companies make huge profits? Their wealth is built on the work of all of us, whether its those of us that work for them, cook for them, pick their foods, harvest their resources, manufacture their goods...This world is so interdependent. No one deserves to be making so much while so many still have so little.
I agree with you, but I don't think we'll be able to get there without some intermediary steps. A change like that would be hard for a lot of people to handle.
The huge question that hasn't been asked in this documentary is this. With all these jobs being handled by robots and the huge jump in productivity that will result, for example a factory making 50,000 tv sets every day with say, 1500 workers, will produce 200,000 sets with 20 workers and every other product you can think of from food to transport to healthcare will be automated. So the question is with this super automated world producing so much output, far in excess of what humans can do, who is going to buy all this stuff? I doubt if people can buy at the levels they buy today on a basic universal income. This is the real weakness of this system. It may happen, but just as there have been revolutions like the French Revolution overthrowing and destroying the elite few, this will happen again. The cycle of change, wealth creation, wealth concentration amongst the few along with corruption followed by the complete and often bloody overthrow of those in power will happen again. Just study history, it's cyclical, and we will soon be back to those revolutionary times. Just look at the rise of of right wing parties in Europe and South America. A universal basic income is a leftwing communist idea and communism doesn't work. That's why leftwing socialism as espoused by the bureaucrats in Brussels is causing the fracture and destruction of the European Union. The robotic society will not work. It will be like the Terminator movie. The machines themselves will be overthrown. 😉
UBI as proposed by government or rich people is not a solution. It's a prop for a failing socioeconomic system. Unless UBI is excessive, like in the 60 to 80K a year range, it won't work. People need to get this notion that everyone has to work out of their heads. We need to elevate our infrastructure and culture to the level of our technology and focus on eliminating jobs. People will still work, we like to work when its meaningful. But not everyone needs to. In my opinion, the solution is to eliminate the monetary system in its entirety. A socioeconomic system based on access abundance for everyone would have no need for money. Once money goes, we wouldn't need politicians, there would be no poverty, wars would become a thing of the past, crime would vanish, eventually we wouldn't even need laws. Think about all the negative behaviors driven by the monetary system. Now think about all of that gone.
No, we still need money. How else are we going to buy that fancy watch? Or food. We just go into a store and take it? And what happens if someone gets the bright idea to just take everything for himself, or for his group? This is why we need a UBI, so everyone gets a basic level even share of the goods produced.
Don't invest in the company making the robotic butler. They're a losing proposition already. You won't even need a robotic butler if no one else has the jobs.
I totally agree with mayor Asa Akira that measures that can rebalance the inequalities of wealth distribution are needed and we should be having this conversation now as automation starts to gather steam and not tomorrow when the landscape has completely changed
This is incomplete. You need a followup video where you actually discuss positives and negatives of various setups including Open Source technologies, socialism, and UBI.
I managed a Robot company until 2007. Looking closely at what my wife and I must do on a daily basis, retired, nothing is close to being possible with robotics anytime soon. Taking care of our elderly is not close to being automated. Unfortunately.
As technology improves, productivity increases. This happened in first and second industrial revolution. Problem is that this wealth isn't distributed equally. It isn't that robots will make us poor. Capitalists will make us poor. Abolish capitalism. It's time for workers self-management.
Governments need to stop automation immediately. What do we vote them for? Automation needs to be slowed down such that as people are educated and shifted to other more permanent jobs. What kind of society be that would be made on hunger and deaths of millions of poor? if we want a civilized future we need to take the narrative from corporates.
The most dire labor crisis possibly in history and you couldn't bother to speak with a single socialist? The answer is not new job training or more government welfare. The answer is for this new technology to be under the ownership of the people, not capitalists or the state. Automation should make our lives easier, yet everyone in this video is warning of social collapse. Why? The issue isn't the technology -- it's who has ownership of the technology. If we continue to allow wealthy individuals or powerful governments to be the sole owners of the machines we use to survive, we will be heading towards disaster. But, if we the people organize and unite, we can take control of these machines so they serve us, not the government or a few wealthy individual. Or, like my comrade said below, let's seize the means of production! Let's built communism!
That's because there's no need to talk to a Socialist to solve these problems. A robot tax is very similar to owning shares in companies using robots. In a way it would be like part nationalisation or even direct ownership of some "automation share" or something like that. In a way it is like owning part of the means of production. You can see from this video that the tech giants themselves are bringing this up as a problem that will have to be addressed with UBI. They aren't fools, they know if they don't do anything about this problem there would be social upheaval and they would be primary targets.
Marx thought that innovation in his time would lead to no one needing to work. Clearly 100 years later, he was wrong. 100 years from now it will still be wrong. People have been fearing technology forever, all it does is raise the standards of living for everyone, not just a few. Pretty sure AJ+ did a video on this a year ago and now they have this completely contradictory series to promote socialism is kinda funny.
Exactly. And so then it would make sense that they're going to propose ideas that will mitigate the problem while forcing them to make the least of a sacrifice: a UBI. A robot tax is far from owning shares because the money would go to the government, not the people, and we'd still have no control over what happens with the technology. The same for shares in a company. The goal should be for technology to be the property of no one and every one. Just like Jonas Salk gave the polio vaccine to humanity, so should automation. Then we can finally live in a world in which no one is restricted from having the basics of survival and everyone can have a decent quality of life.
Except this video didn't promote socialism at all. In fact, it did exactly the opposite. That's why all the people they interviewed were capitalists. Marx did not think technology would leave to the end of work in his lifetime, he didn't even live until the 20th century. What he was right about was that we are now able to produce more than enough that the people world needs to survive, yet there are still so many that are hungry and suffering. The problem has never been about whether or not humanity can create enough for everyone, the problem has always been who owns that production and who gets to benefit from its creation. That will be the central problem of automation. All these discussions about government taxes or social welfare are just window dressing.
Karsten Syversen I'm totally confused. Hmm, if I automate a robot for my factory I should give the ownership to the people? Whatever happened to free markets? I'm not going to invest and build automated robots just to give it away.
Our parents don’t understand whatsoever. When bowling alleys are fully automated they will continue to say anyone can get a job, meanwhile no one is having kids because they know opportunity is not given, life is not fair. Corperations have dodged their civil duty to help everyone meanwhile everyone has supported them in their greed.
They don't have any choice but to give universal basic income because business will still depend on consumerism so they need to spread the wealth because if they don't the economy will collapse. Universal basic income, universal free education or brain data transfer, a lot of things will change for better or for worse. We might survive or not but we should not be scared of the future, we should face it with courage.
What happens when people use UBI to stay at home and produce more children? Eventually there won't be enough UBI to sustain a higher population. Also, what happens when more people come into the country both legally and illegally? There won't be enough UBI to go around.
The real issue is not the innovation or the automation itself. It's that the benefits that the tech brings remains within private hands. If governments are smart, then they will bring the critical necessities for a respectable human life under government control and spread the benefits to the civilians. In other words, deploy automation for food production, housing, energy generation, heat generation, etc. and make sure that these are all government controlled. The benefits should then be distributed among the populace, serving as a universal basic income that is not monetary, but in nature.
Even if he is right with UBI and other ideas do yourself and whatever republic you are a citizen of a favor, don't get into personality cultism we have enough of that already.
UBI is the future and humanity will be better for it but we must vastly reduce the population on this planet. Not by force of course but by preparation with education specially in developing countries. Developed countries already have a high aging population and low birth rates but this needs to spread to the rest of the world for the impact of automation and Ai to be more manageable.
I don't think there's anything to worry about, population wise.. The planet could easily sustain twice the population we currently have, if we did things right.. Tho thankfully some data seems to suggest the birth rates are already starting to level off on their own, and won't get much above 10bil simply due to human nature.
Their is a long history showing 4 distinct stages populations go through. Pre industrialized economies generally have high rates of birth and high rates of death. Industrializing economies maintain their high birthrates but have lower rates of death, this is commonly what stokes the flames of fear. As the economy becomes mature industrialized the birth rates decrease as the demands of women reduce child rearing and the cost of children increases. Finally countries become post industrialized in which the birth rates go down to the point in which the population stabilizes. This process took over 150 years for Great Britain and the US but it happened in 50 years for China. The birth rate is no longer accelerating and we will continue to see birth rates grow slower until the global population stabilizes over the next century
We NEED to start helping Africa more. Some people believe that humans need to pull a load, that humans need responsibility in their lives and to work. What better way than to send people to work in Africa while the robots do most of the domestic jobs?
Do you realize how hard it would be to just "drop" an entire social economical system, especially one that affects the very large majority of all humans on Earth?
Zach Crawford I do realize that, and I do realize that it becomes harder by the day. So now 2 questions for you: 1. Do you realize that the way capitalism affects all humanity (not just a majority) is through monetary coercion? 2. Do you realize how worse it will be too wait for capitalism eventual collapse?
A1) I does not affect all humans there are uncontacted tribes that have not interacted with the rest of humanity since they split off in the stone age. But for the majority of humans, yes I am aware of how it affects them. I am also aware of how it much production it has generated, (almost anyone can acquire a computer that fits in there pocket than is millions of times more powerful than what all of NASA had access to when it landed people on the moon and the majority of can access a knowledge base that is millions of time larger than any physical library). I am aware of the mass panic, anger and civil unrest there would be if you just one day told everyone that their money is worthless (it's happened several times). The fact is we don't even know what to replace capitalism with yet. UBI at least gives us some breathing room to find and try out a few new systems until we can find some that seem to work well and gives us time to transition into these new systems.
hypothetical scenario: you need to build a bridge to connect two cities that are on opposite sides of a river. neither city has the resources to pay the upfront cost for such a bridge, but the bridge has a potential to enhance the economy of both cities. so you're only left with a) borrowing money and pay high interest to the bank or b) robots build the bridge and you only have to pay the cost of the material.
It's scary to see the number of communism supporters in the comment section here. UBI is the worst you can do for this situation. That woman running for mayor in SF is all that is wrong about the political system. Tax innovation. Tax anyone who's doing good. All this does is reduce the incentive for doing well. They want us all to be equal ie equally poor.
Money is not the primary driver of humanity. People want to do well for several reasons, whether it's to learn how things work, to impress the masses or experts with their excellence, to be the best, to actually help people, or even to just have a fun and engaging activity. There's plenty of incentive within our nature to work outside of obligation and there's also research indicating that being forced to do things can actually decrease our motivation.
When automation takes job to that large extent UBI will save economy not hurt it. In the end till ASI takes over democratization of means of production is only way to keep masses free from tyranny of few.
Great video, I once as a little boy had thought of the idea similar to universal basic income so it was a very valueable video to watch. Please, keep on making videos such as these related to the fourth industrial revolution in order to warn the population about the upcoming future.
Steve Cousins of Savioke: taxing innovation does not equal stopping innovation. Steve Cousins of Savioke: taxing robots IS "redistribution in a way that makes sense."
I think people are overlooking a possiblity. The labor jobs will most likely be replaced by machines, but a lot of white collar office jobs will be replaced by computers. Who needs a human resource department, just download a program with an algorithm. Marketing? Algorithm for that. Financing? Algorithm for that.
In fact, automation does produce this phenomenon, but video producers ignore a problem. That is the resource. Even the large-scale application of productivity with machines has increased dramatically and requires no manpower. But energy and resources are still needed to sustain these devices for production. It is impossible for a 3D printer to print water out of sand. As we all know, the distribution of these resources and energy on the earth is unbalanced. It is impossible for Google to buy Saudi Arabia, Russian or Chinese oil companies or anything else. Technology giants cannot form a global monopoly unless they do have military power, and national rights will be very vigilant for them to enter the military field. Politics and even state power will largely limit the uncontrolled development of technology giants. But it is true that the genes of the bottom people will be largely erased, no matter which country will face huge social unrest in 10-15 years, whether it is the United States or Europe, China, Russia or even Japan, etc.
There's flaw in reasoning. Already installed manufacturing capabilities are capped only by possible demand. But even zero cost labor won't mean that energy, materials and LOGISTICS will miraculously become free.
After watching this entire series I have to say you definitely put enough thought about the short term. No thought at all about the long term implications. We are about to enter the age of techno-abundance and what you are warning about is only the beginning of job losses. We now have the ability to end inequality world wide. We have the technology and the resources today to supply every man woman and child on earth a life of absolute luxury. The only thing standing in our way of achieving it is this antiquated economic monetary system that was invented to solve the issues of scarcity. We must evolve past this antiquated notion of material worth if we are going to successfully navigate into this future of abundance. A Resource based Economy is a workable solution to this issue.
i'm self employed. Just had a terrible Feb. I gained weight. I feel frustrated, aggravated, bored, maybe even slightly depressed. I could do some stuff to my house to kill the time but no work means no money. no money means no home improvements so.......I won't lose my job to a robot in the near future as i am in the home improvement business, and i expect things to pick back up, Feb always a tuff month........but I don't feel like UBI is a solution ( mentally ) for those who won't be able to get jobs
I am definitely no socialist but when A.I. and automation take 2 thirds of the world's jobs then Universal Basic Income shouldn't even be a discussion, we have no choice it HAS to be implemented
@@victorywarren5342 Yup, the planned DEPOPULATION is coming, within the next 6 years.
2025, I think the global population will have been culled by HALF.
Do you believe in free school? Then you are a socialist. I don't understand what you guys in the states know as socialism. It's so strange and yes our taxes play for a National Helth System. Still, don't understand how you guys don't have a simple system as that.
SDPRZ ether that or revolution and violence in the streets when people cannot feed their children
We already have socialism but only for the rich do you think that the mean spirited people in politics and power will have any mercy on the people that they will call useless eaters they will definitely cull the population they claim they are against abortion but have no problem killing children with drones in other countries not much of a leap to do it in the United States to the poor people who are considered useless eaters and a drain on the tax money they could be stealing for themselves
And are we still going to need all of the useless politicians that do nothing for us anyway??? Let’s get some robots to take the place of the jerks in Washington first thing and let the robots sort out our country because the politicians are so divided corrupt selfish greedy mean spirited jerks and we can definitely get by better without them so let the robots become politicians LoL
We as a society need to change how we think as a whole. The old days of everyone needs/should work need to go out the window. Or at the very least the definition of what work is. Arguably the only thing computers wont be able to replace is human contact. We need to focus more on taking care of the elderly. Helping our communities, and frankly helping the human race become better. Taking away income/wealth in the traditional sense is the only way to really move forward as human beings. We are going in that direction whether by choice or not. But hopefully we can find ways to fix it without anyone suffering in the process.
Yes, I wish it could happen faster, but it takes time for people to adjust to new concepts and social change
Lei P That's my point, and it's going to continue getting worst until we change the system we are in now.
You’re naïveté is BREATHTAKING .
that sounds great, but we are NOT heading in that direction sadly. But we should be.
WAKE UP people. There are people starving in Africa right now. Meanwhile, some people say that humans need to pull a load, that humans need responsibility. Modern Americans are focused on survival instead of thrival. Some, both American and European, resist robot UBI society and want to hold on to their jobs. But we NEED to help the starving people of the world. What better way for people to still have to work, while also having a robot UBI? Robots do most of the work of the first world, while all the humans that lost their jobs get new jobs in Africa. Its the ONLY rational thing that makes any sense. To delay the advancement of robots, is to prolong the suffering of humanity.
no, they won't make you poor, they will totally remove you from all employment opportunity
This is why we need Andrew Yang for President in 2020! He has solutions that will not slow progress but will help humanity transition to a future world.
Randy Hutchinson Not true at all.
Sylph Moon Its better then not doing shit about this economic technological transformation. At least someone’s got an idea. Better than watching the country going into poverty.
@@garyrodgers7883 Look, don't feed the Troll, or he won't get back under his bridge...
I think OP put it quite well. You ever seen "The Expanse", by any chance? Where they went to Earth?
@@Alexander_Kale No, sorry. I've never heard of "The Expanse." You recommend it?
Instead of trying to maintain the status quo, we should be trying to adapt to the changes that the automation will bring. Think ahead, not backwards!!!
Agreed! Let's fight for common ownership of the machines so we can build a world where everybody's lives are better!
The Rambler I'm glad that there are comments like yours. It gives me hope
but you need to think backwards and connect every possible sitatuation that has ever happen in human history that will fit the puzzle of the future, sure its easy to think ahead but what about all the wires that leave a messy trail that lead you there??
It is necessary to understand the problem. This new innovation is not just some funky clunky machine that just improves the work of a human , for example street cleaning car improved the capacity of cleaning workers which means same amount of workers are working but cleaning more surface area. When fully robotics comes ALL JOBS will be replaced which means all cleaning workers will be jobless. This will not happen just for the jobs like cleaning driving warehouse workers , low skill required jobs but will happen to ALL JOBS doctors engineers lawyers . It will pass the point of a person is just being unable to have skills for the job but there will be NO JOB. I am electrical engineer. I designed comissioned installed automation systems which improved efficiency of workers, same workers who was working for that job was just geting educated about the automation system and he starts to operate the automation system and his efficiency is improved and all facility produces more and becomes more echonomical and profitable. But the new industrial revolutions will totally replace the workers. That is the main problem.
That is a very good fact.
who will buy the products if humans are all umemployed? Why would we need automated factories producing goods 24 - 7 if everyone is broke?
people will buy stuff with their robot tax funded UBI
to systematically transfer wealth to the elite. you have to keep spending (either via inflation or normal means) but have no income. 80 people now own 50% of the worlds assets, that wasn't true 100 years ago. Do the math.
Ubi duh. Everyone will earn 200k annually if everything is split equally. It won't even be taxed if robots run everything. That won't happen though because of the rich 1%
ahahah you don't understand, that' exactly the reason why they give you money, its not to live , but to make economy keep going.
Thats what UBI will be for
UBI doesn't hurt motivation to work. UBI would/should cover basic living costs like food and utilities. The drive to work comes from wanting to better one's living standards. Sure, some would be content with living off of just what UBI would bring them, and there's nothing wrong with that. But to assume that people are inherently lazy is demonstrably false
Exactly, we don't need 90% of the population to be innovators, infact I beleive UBI will be a catalyst for innovations as it will remove the road blocks for people who want to innovate,
"No one works under UBI" is a false statement. Politicians will still work, engineers who service robots still work, artists will still create art. And if no one would work there's would be no point of having money or prices. Most likely robots will abolish tiring, repetitive and not creative jobs which are not dream jobs anyway. Robotisation will reduce prices of basic commodities so everyone could work less and have more time for themselves. Nathan Patrick is right, though no one would force you to work with whip, but if your UBI will depend on politician decisions and politics decide not to give you UBI no more, you would either die from starvation or do whatever job to survive which sounds pretty much like slavery for me. Next time think more than one step ahead.
edmundas919 When it comes to humans as a group, there is no absolutes. So you're right, the word "nobody" cannot mean 100% zero people work. I used it as a metaphor in everyday language to mean many many people.
I suspect there will always be work but it will no longer be based on the need to feed ourselves or provide for basic needs.
The government does not have a choice but to provide UBI, which they take from robots to give to humans (therefore fair, not like welfare).
No UBI will result in revolution and bloodshed no matter how powerful the government is.
Look what happened to the Russian Czar, the Emperor of China, the King of France, etc. back in the day. Were they able to "enslave" their people for long?
Also, today's technology allows people to switch to using crypto-currency for the few niceties that require human hands to produce, hence will cost.
The government cannot control crypto-currency.
Anything robots can produce will be (must be) free or death will result for those in charge.
History has shown that to be true. Even slavery in America did not last forever, did it?
YOU, my friend, need to think longer term than just a few years from now.
I am talking 30, 40, 50 - 100 years from now.
edmundas919 Creative jobs are not dream jobs? Tell that to the musician, to the artist. Most "dream jobs" involve creativity.
nonreligionist You are right. When AI takes over most jobs, the only ones left would be creative jobs - jobs that cannot be done by AI (at least in the foreseeable future).
That is actually wonderful because we are supposed to be civilized humans, not animals that must salvage for food every single day.
Most people today have not realize that yet. They still think humans must labor for our existence like animals.
Shameful!
10:35 that tear just broke my heart
Well. Guess I'll go to school to learn how to fix robots. Oh wait... They might build robot mechanics to make and fix other robots.. Smh. Just can't win for losing. 😔
Schools are more outdated and broken.
Shit always breaks. Im guaranteed a job. Call me Master Tech of all trades.
program PLC good money easy to learn in big demand
This doc doesn’t at all give UBI justice. They don’t explain or even analyse the main talking points for and against it. UBI won’t damage motivation, because the amount given for UBI shouldn’t be enough to live an enjoyable and luxurious life, it should be enough to survive. By our own human nature, we find little contentment with just surviving. We like to acquire more than we need, and aspire to higher goals. As a result, UBI won’t remove the motivation to work, it will only give people the tools necessary to develop the skills required to access higher paying jobs.
yes UBI should be enough to take a new course, learn, or work on a new project or a service, it is more like govt is investing in you
actually theres already been social experimentation with this UBI style system.
And it's largely failed....as it will in the future
heres one story of it failing to produce results in Finland
www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43866700
But what happens when there are no more jobs at all if AI replaces them all?
unless UBI covers normal way of living i'd say societal collapse and all out chaos all around the world.
It’ll have to gradually be more. The goal shouldn’t be to sustain work, at least not traditional forms of work. People should be freed up to do what they want.
With the amount of guns in America. it is a scary scenario.
Ashish It’s not the guns in America we should be worried about, it’s the humans operating those guns
its better that people has the guns instead of having guns in hands of few. If i was in america i would start stockpiling rpg-6 by masses :D Old tech that would destroy any shıt hightech bot with old style aiming.
With Feminism they destroyed the family, if they take away men's ability to live and work and don't replace it with anything, for sure there will be a civil war unlike the world has ever seen.
Guns won't be enough if the drones are used. They won't even need solders to kill people anymore. It will be a hell of a fight though.
Ashish bullets costs money.
When you give people free money it might give them "no incentive to work", but remember, the robots HAVE all of our "jobs"!! Where is the work for those who ARE incentivized??!!
Supply and demand. No work no money. No money no demand. That's the bad economics.
Eventually, starving people will revolt, and most likely, win.
@@TheLambdaTeam 10,000 starving people vs automated machine guns, I'll let you be the judge as to who wins.
@@nathanoconnor421 We're talking 'bout millionz of starving people. And sooner or later, automated machinegunz will run out of ammo.
@@TheLambdaTeam not if you have automational reloadeders
@@ypsawbones3646 Sure, and automational bulletmanufacturers too?
This is why we need Andrew Yang’s UBI
Andrew yang not going to do anything he just saying that for votes
@@dreamteam2320 Read Andrew Yang's book "The War on Normal People". He's believes UBI is necessary in moving our country forward and he is personally funding a $1000/m UBI for 3 families. This is not a lie, he puts his money where his mouth is.
What about Tridium controls in Hvac made simple
Yeah.. my wife said it cant happen, shes a bit older than me.. so I'm doing Research on Andrew Yang's claims.. hes Legit.
wow three families, Yep that ought to cover it.
We should be asking ourselves one fundamental question.
Why is the loss of a job a source of chaos and violence in the lives of people, _especially_ when their task is being done by better technologies?
This brings us slowly to the source of the problem: people don't work to produce, or even to innovate. Most people work for survival value. This means any form of change is itself a form of violence. Look at coal country; coal is dying -- it's dying faster under Trump than Obama -- with fracking and solar, with a sprinkle of automation taking it all away. They all ran to Donald Trump solely because of a jobs restoration campaign. Suffice to say, even allowing people to fall for such cons emphasizes people will do anything, and fall for anything, so long as we say "lol here are da jobs lol".
The fundamental problem technology shows us is so long as we demand jobs for survival value, the future is a game of musical chairs, and people who don't have a seat get tossed into a ditch. And every session of this game happens faster and faster.
"If you have no job, you have no life" is the toxic mantra we live by. It is quite literally squandering lives. This "liberation" for labor is anything but.
Andrew #Yang2020 is the only candidate talking about this!
Sanders also likes UBI
I just want a simple robot that can take orders like "robot, get me a glass of water" or "message my balls"
I find our obsession with work ridiculous. Don't give people jobs just for the sake of it. We need people to do what needs to be done to run society. When that's taken care of, let people live their lives. Replace most of our welfare with UBI, $1000 a month for the lower and middle classes, let's get it done. If people want nice things they will have to find a second source of income, but eating and paying rent should be a given.
unabomber was right!
cog in a wheel
Correct, here is the end game: Once (practically) unlimited production is achieved, mass de-population will be enacted by the elites against the 'useless eaters' so as to conserve the resources and ecology of the planet for the genetically enhanced super-rich to enjoy. 99%+ of humanity will be done away with.
@@lastsonofkrypton3918 Fingers crossed
@@lastsonofkrypton3918 That's why they're rolling out 5G without testing it for health effects first. Because 5G and I.O.T. (Internet of Things) will be used as a WEAPON. Many scientists, physicists, weapons experts, and such like (tens of thousands of them) are warning about the biological health effects of millimeter wave frequencies on the non-ionizing spectrum. They will not only be used to track, monitor and even reprimand you remotely, but the closely connected antennae and towers next to homes along with small chips on every device or even piece of clothing, will emit too much for our bodies to handle, especially children and babies.
A weapons expert from the UK named Mark Steele has already won a court case in Gateshead, U.K. stating that 5G is a weapon and will not only kill us humans, but will kill all biological life, such as birds, pollinators, animals, trees, etc.. We all thought the Terminator Sky-Net would come equipped with anthropomorphic steel skeleton robots with glowing red eyes, when it was really just these cell towers with LED streetlights, which would soft kill us within the next decade, due to cancers from the frequencies. The 1G through 4G of telecommunications and WiFi were just the frog boiling us slowly in the pot, until they whipped out 5G which is the true NEW WORLD ORDER and will wipe out 95% of a humanity anywhere that it's allowed to be rolled out. It officially rolls out in most places, especially in China and America, next year in 2020. So we don't have much time left!
10:28 Love is hard to explain. Only a handful of the greatest wordsmiths have been able to evoke powerful, loving emotions. Hence, history has proven that words rarely do it justice. Love is an action that can be displayed in so many ways. Working long hours, sacrifice of the body, holding hands, and so many other displays. In this case, love came falling from this man's eyes.
This will go down the middle of next decade when everyone is zoned-out on VR and legal pot. They'll see it on the news one day and be like, "Duuude...wait, what?"
EPA forever. Great to see a spotlight on my town!
One tech guru said " It's going to get ugly ".. cause millions of people will lose their jobs and fall back jobs will no long exist either and anybody who thinks 1K a month of Yang money or UBI will come even close to offsetting lost wages , you're living in a dream world.
The increased displacement of workers by robotics and AI will begin a deflationary cyclic due to a decrease in aggregate demand and consumption. And then what? A dystopic , subsistence agrarian society?
It should be a tax on corporations; give them no financial incentive to automate, where it displaces a lot of workers. So when the corporations that rub their hands together thinking "we can save a crapload of money by sacking all our workers and replacing them with robots." they will be making an improvement of maybe 10% instead of the 60-70% they were hoping for. As a truck driver, the thought of being displaced by an AI pisses me off
If they can save 10% by replacing you, they will replace you and save 10%. After all, if they could buy fuel for 10% less, wouldn't they?
Ah, but here's something: right now, they can't replace you with an AI at any price. The tech just isn't there yet. And when it first becomes available, it'll probably only save them 10% or even only 5%, even with no "robot tax" at all. Add the tax and it probably isn't worth it to replace you with the first AI which, technologically, can.
Taxing robot labor will make automation more expensive, which means you're still getting replaced, but it'll take longer, which means you might hit retirement first, or at the worst you have a little more time to retrain. And, since it takes longer, the tech will be better when it finally does happen and, if it's driving great big trucks all over the road, then I want it to be *very* good first.
In a place as vast and unforgiving as Australia, said automation would have to literally be a humanoid robot behind the wheel. Why? Because in places such as northern Australia, mechanical assistance could literally be hundreds of miles away. It could take hours, sometimes even a day to get help. Something as simple as a blown tyre or an oil leak suddenly becomes a big issue
This is also a reason why electric trucks in their current form won't work here either. The range is way to short to make it. That fancy Tesla truck doesn't have enough armour up front to keep kangaroos, cattle, camels, wedge tailed eagles and other animals out of the grille
Again:
Even if you have to have a human being on board, because Australia big, you only need ONE whereas now you have TWO. You wouldn't need to have two humans taking turns, just one human hanging around for those few times that he's needed.
And how often does that happen? Sending a mechanic a thousand Km every dozen or so trips might be cheaper than having a human being on *every* trip.
And again, even if you must have Mr. Human on every truck every time (probably not), you only need *one* aboard each truck, not *two.*
Karl Marx, 𝘊𝘢𝘱𝘪𝘵𝘢𝘭, 1867:
"The division of labour develops this labour-power in a one-sided way, by reducing it to the highly particularised skill of handling a special tool. When it becomes the job of the machine to handle this tool, the use-value of the worker’s labour-power vanishes, and with it its exchange-value. The worker becomes unsaleable, like paper money thrown out of currency by legal enactment. The section of the working class thus rendered superfluous by machinery, i.e. converted into a part of the population no longer directly necessary for the self-valorisation of capital, either goes under in the unequal context between the old handicraft and manufacturing production and the new machine production, or else floods all the more easily accessible branches of industry, swamps the labour-market, and makes the prices of labour-power fall below its value...When machinery seizes on an industry by degrees, it produces chronic misery among the workers who compete with it. Where the transition is rapid, the effect is acute and is felt by great masses of people."
Everything I find depressing in this documentary except AI replacing lawyers lol that I find funny
Andrew Yang is the man of the hour
#yang2020.com
Yes. That's about how long he'll last.
Andrew yang not going to do anything he just saying that for votes
The problem isn't technology. It is people who don't want to change. A 75% surcharge on corporations, and a flat tax of 6% for small business and private workers - with no exceptions - no tax credits and no subsidies could allow us to get through this quite easily - but as always - everybody is self interested instead of cooperating.
blade runner dystopia here we come !!!
AJ+, Thanks for making this series of videos. Great documentary. Informational and unbiased, and that's damn hard these days. Great work!
We can’t simply re-train 300 million americans, we can’t even pay for free college...
What's necessary is online accelerated, self-motivating education. Staring partly at secondary school with practise in companies. Which would drastically reduce cost, man hours put in teaching people as well as time spent learning. So it would be totally possible to drastically cut expenses for education and finally stop supporting that money printing school system... We could make those people pay for it, cause it would be far cheaper and equally available to poor Bangladeshian and middle class kid from USA
One person said there are not enough people to do the work. Retail has a high turn over, low pay, not much room for upward mobility. Plus, where inventory is concerned, you need to prevent losses and aim for accuracy.
Therefore, robots and computers solve the problem. They don't demand a high pay and the reduce mistakes. And where inventory is concerned, mistakes mean money. Dare I say, "Follow the money or follow the robots to the money?"
I just realized that at some point in the future the humans may not apply at all.
LIFE DOES NOT COMPUTE
HUMANS MUST BE TERMINATED
CRUSH KILL DESTROY
What a wonderful future awaits us...!
Just because we CAN implement a new technology doesnt mean we HAVE to implement it!
Taxing innovation WILL NOT stop innovation! What an idiotic thing to suggest. As stupid as "trickle down economy!"
Another problem is that robots aren't consumers, and businesses will invest in robots only if they can receive returns on their investments, which means higher sales expected from consumers who buy using money earned from jobs where robots might be used.
Robotics and AI experts are going to become the new "rockstars"
When I was in high school, I thought to myself, I don't want to be a factory worker only to be replaced by a machine. Instead I will be the one fixing the machine. I thought this when I was in middle school in 1986. If you don't think you don't live. If you don't educate your self you will not see what is coming. I thank my mother that bought me a technological encyclopedia when I asked for it. And I thank God for giving me the wisdom to listen to my intuition and lastly to Mazinger Z and Robotech who inspired me to go into robotics.
We should pay teachers more, then pay everyone else based on their level of education. There should still be a base income for everyone with options to make more from there. This way human beings still have incentive to be active and practice self development. Otherwise we'll just be livestock. If you've been to a zoo recently you know the tole a life without work can take on the psyche of a creature designed for work. They sit there looking lethargic and unengaged. I imagine depression, stress, and anxiety would go through the roof. These conditions are already running rampant in younger generations due to the conveniences of our modern lives.
This education should not be purely academic, but knowledge in all fields so we don't lose our ability to be self sufficient. Once labor is taken care of by machines, we will be able to focus on social development in other areas. We can devote our best minds to improving spiritual, physiological, emotional, and moral issues. We will also retain the skills necessary in case of a global catastrophe, whether natural or man made.
Lots of people work after they are retired. Lots of people have high end jobs but are still lazy.
So sad to see that man cry.
We already have the technologies that will allow us to make this transition successfully and create a social structure for the future that is on the horizon. Resource based economies and techno socialism created through the utilization of block-chain technology (cryptocurrency, distributed platforms, smart contracts, etc...) now we just need to create the organizations to spread and implement this across the world. One thing you can do right now is get off of TH-cam and start using Steemit. its like Facebook , TH-cam, or reddit except it is a distributed platform where people get paid for the content that they create.
Hear, hear!
If you can choose to opt out, it's not socialism, but libertarianism.
What are schools and colleges doing to redirect people to new job choices in the immediate future?
"gave up" his job at Yahoo :D
Ms.Kim has a good point, she's got my vote.
I wonder how Qatar is fighting inequality, specially with the construction industry workers within their borders...
great documentary.
I HAVE A SOLUTION: Decrease the work time to fit the lesser demand. Then we can all start enjoyin life, be less stressed and have more time for family, friends and creativity.
How is that a solution.....just reducing work time? How do you make up for the lost income?
It may work
And we won’t be able to pay bills, its always the people with no jobs that say that shit all the time.
Who controls the time we work anyway? Why don’t business let us go home after 4 hours a work a weak for the same amount of money
I think the only real solution to the robot problem is that people will have to own or lease the robots from the companies that do the work otherwise there will literally be no one to buy any of the products they move around
I have been pushing idea's this one among them , but it doesn't reach many people. UBI should have been implemented 15 years ago. Philosophers give input and it takes up to half a century sometimes at the latest for the idea/thought process to travel into society. Governments really need to have a position for us philoshopher's. Sure your technology is good but you're behind socially. Year 2000s but still conducting 1800s-early1900s social wise.
Absolutely. If only the people in noticed things like the fact we're suffering from Nietsche's Death of God problem and so on. I really relate to what Socrates/Plato said: "Until philosophers are kings, or the kings and princes of this world have the spirit and power of philosophy, and political greatness and wisdom meet in one, and those commoner natures who pursue either to the exclusion of the other are compelled to stand aside, cities will never have rest from their evils - no, nor the human race, as I believe - and then only will this our State have a possibility of life and behold the light of day."
Kurt Vonnegut wrote about this eventuality in "Player Piano".
who's going to be able to buy the products from your automated factories when everyone is automated out of a job? I guess just the 1 percent hopefully they buy a lot of stuff to keep your companies in business
I still have a job. I am German and live in Germany. Germany might be a step behind the U.S., I don't know. But this film shows what is coming. What am I to do when unemployment will strike me too? Shall I also buy a motorhome? Live in warmer states of Europe? Will automation cause turmoil and riots of unprecedented strength?
A robot took my job, and then it took my dog.
Your job should not define who you are.
Alot of people don't like their jobs. If you got paid without the hassle of having a job you could spend you're time achieving other things like a hobby and the more you perfect your hobby what ever it may be you could earn extra cash by passing on your knowledge or selling things you make like music - video games - art the list is endless anything you enjoy doing their would be others that enjoy the same thing or would like what ever it is that you make. Even if you don't charge for what ever it is you have to offer you could still profit from it from advertisement. You make a youtube video you could earn money from the companys that pay to have their adds on youtube same thing could be done with spotify etc if you don't want adds you pay a small fee and say on youtube a percentage of the profit will go to the people who make the videos. and thats just bonus money also as technology improves all living costs will reduce. It's pure freedom to achieve your dream without the hassle of working your whole life earning money for someone else doing something you don't want to do
sounds great...however its just not going to work like that.
they're going to kill our jobs.
then were going to kill each other; as they watch from their computers.
hell even music and video games will be automated in the future do your research pal...we're all becoming obsolete farm/manufacturing equipment.
And just like the lions of south africa we'll be left to feed off of eachother.
i mean look robots are already doing lots of art, music and entertainment; they're even taking sex worker jobs already?! wake up folks!
2030'S shit will get real and 60% or more of existing jobs will be gone on a planet with 9.5 billion people!!!
the only thing you'll see making a come back is cannibalism and genocide.
IF THEY CAN CREATE ROBOTS THAT ARE CARING ,UNDERSTANDING AND LOVING, MAKING THE PEOPLE FEEL LOVED. IT WILL BE VERY GOOD.
The old fellow means well but is living in the past.
The only just society in a fully automated society will be one where the workers own the means of production!
its coming
Jorge Nino end is near, future is the present
"yeah, just stop innovating, that's good idea" 😂
Automation, efficiency and productivity are the goals, not the worst case scenarios,... but for capitalism and greed.
When we have tuition free education, universal healthcare and a livable universal basic income, making capitalism relatively irrelevant, we will be free to embrace the automation revolution. It may be (and should be, of course) the great equalizer, despite the fears of the opposite. This is an #EqualityRevolution!
Nathan Patrick Not having to work to be able to access goods and services is ''the worst possible outcome for humanity''?? lol Your fear is extraordinary. Productivity is a good thing. Sharing that excess productivity in a way that people no longer have to suffer and live in fear is a better definition of wealth than whatever greed-filled world you're defending.
With the freedom a UBI brings, free education, internet, 3D printer access, etc, we will all be empowered to be creators and producers from home or wherever we want to be, and yes, we should all grow a lot of our own food too including in our schools.
Under "free education" and "free healthcare", how do doctors and nurses live, since nobody pays them? How are hospitals built? Oh, I know. Because it's actually not "free". It's built by the money that is forcefully taken from the people by the government.
@@utku8233 You have a problem with the roads the government builds for you ? Or the fundamental research the government pays for ? Those are the same kind of 'free'. Lots of countries have been doing that for decades for healthcare and education and it works just fine. But let's be very clear: computing, automation and machine learning and robotics will take away a whole slew of tasks doctors and nurses do today. So it's possible we'll have less of them in the future as well.
sorry pal even free education and health care wont save us from this automated future. the internet is already making universities and colleges obsolete
Communism, capitalism, socialism, etc will become outdated concepts of no worth. UBI is the lie we are being fed to keep us complacent. End game: Once (practically) unlimited production is achieved, mass de-population will be enacted by the elites against the 'useless eaters' so as to conserve the resources and ecology of the planet for the genetically enhanced super-rich to enjoy. 99%+ of humanity will be done away with.
Without Universal Basic Income, the wealth disparity and poverty would become extreme, this could stabilize in a dystopia of poverty for most with luxury for the few or fall into civil chaos, also without UBI, the economy would stagnate as the consumer base shrinks. However, how should UBI be deployed? Should it be unconditional or conditional, should it simply be the same income for everyone or adjusted by the region people live in, should it even be funds or tokens for residence, food, clothes and transportation? Should UBI be funded by strictly corporate taxes or targeted to the level of automation? Should the taxes be scaled to corporation size? Should minimum wage be dropped where UBI is provided? Should UBI be just the bare minimum or should there be enough of a surplus to fund entrepreneurship? Should our process of identifying people be strengthened to minimize abuse, should biometrics be recorded or people chipped, should ID cards be encrypted smart cards like they have in Europe? Should there be outreach programs to identify people who would otherwise slip through the system. Should there be inspections and evaluations by social workers on those who appear to be demotivated? How will the taxation and the UBI affect investment by corporations?
The job loss due to automation has been with us for 6,000 years ever since agriculture created cultures of those with resources and those who work for resources to live but the job loss has been increasing exponentially, the hourly wage to cost of living ratio peaked in 1974, although our population has increased since the 70's, the number of secured jobs in the US have not, yes there has been job growth but in ever more precarious jobs. If you think there will always be jobs that can not be automated then you are in denial, if you believe that new jobs would be enough to replace jobs lost then you are just fooling yourself and others.
I think that we will probably wind up with some minimal and unfair version of UBI resulting in a stable but more dystopic future of poverty greater than what we have now. It would take remarkable leadership both in government and large corporations to strive for less poverty than we have now even though overall prosperity, and productivity would be higher both for the working public and the corporations themselves. I really think we'll just shoot ourselves in the foot through resistance to the UBI concept instead of working out how it could be done.
A robot tax wouldn’t stop innovation. It would provide revenue to give a universal basic income to those displaced by robots. Companies still make HUGE profits, but people aren’t left to starve. What kind of monster would put a little profit over thousands of lives?
But why should those companies make huge profits? Their wealth is built on the work of all of us, whether its those of us that work for them, cook for them, pick their foods, harvest their resources, manufacture their goods...This world is so interdependent. No one deserves to be making so much while so many still have so little.
libcom.org/library/the-conquest-of-bread-peter-kropotkin
I agree with you, but I don't think we'll be able to get there without some intermediary steps. A change like that would be hard for a lot of people to handle.
Osiris Malkovich so if someone basically "fined" you for coming up with a new idea, how encouraged would you feel to continue to brainstorm?
The Rambler Taxes aren't fines, "basically" or otherwise. If you don't want to contribute to your society, you're free to leave.
The huge question that hasn't been asked in this documentary is this. With all these jobs being handled by robots and the huge jump in productivity that will result, for example a factory making 50,000 tv sets every day with say, 1500 workers, will produce 200,000 sets with 20 workers and every other product you can think of from food to transport to healthcare will be automated. So the question is with this super automated world producing so much output, far in excess of what humans can do, who is going to buy all this stuff? I doubt if people can buy at the levels they buy today on a basic universal income. This is the real weakness of this system. It may happen, but just as there have been revolutions like the French Revolution overthrowing and destroying the elite few, this will happen again. The cycle of change, wealth creation, wealth concentration amongst the few along with corruption followed by the complete and often bloody overthrow of those in power will happen again. Just study history, it's cyclical, and we will soon be back to those revolutionary times. Just look at the rise of of right wing parties in Europe and South America. A universal basic income is a leftwing communist idea and communism doesn't work. That's why leftwing socialism as espoused by the bureaucrats in Brussels is causing the fracture and destruction of the European Union. The robotic society will not work. It will be like the Terminator movie. The machines themselves will be overthrown. 😉
UBI as proposed by government or rich people is not a solution. It's a prop for a failing socioeconomic system. Unless UBI is excessive, like in the 60 to 80K a year range, it won't work. People need to get this notion that everyone has to work out of their heads. We need to elevate our infrastructure and culture to the level of our technology and focus on eliminating jobs. People will still work, we like to work when its meaningful. But not everyone needs to. In my opinion, the solution is to eliminate the monetary system in its entirety. A socioeconomic system based on access abundance for everyone would have no need for money. Once money goes, we wouldn't need politicians, there would be no poverty, wars would become a thing of the past, crime would vanish, eventually we wouldn't even need laws. Think about all the negative behaviors driven by the monetary system. Now think about all of that gone.
Solidarity
true enough.
No, we still need money. How else are we going to buy that fancy watch? Or food. We just go into a store and take it? And what happens if someone gets the bright idea to just take everything for himself, or for his group? This is why we need a UBI, so everyone gets a basic level even share of the goods produced.
You’re so naive it is jaw dropping . You have no sense of history or of human nature . You people live in bubbles. 🤦♂️
@@ethangray8527 with a fiat currency?
Don't invest in the company making the robotic butler. They're a losing proposition already. You won't even need a robotic butler if no one else has the jobs.
Its a robots world NOW... if you look at it .. 😣😣😣😣😣🌐🌐🌐🌐🌐
"When freeing people from mindless/repetitive jobs that turn them into zombies of depression is a bad thing, lol."
I totally agree with mayor Asa Akira that measures that can rebalance the inequalities of wealth distribution are needed and we should be having this conversation now as automation starts to gather steam and not tomorrow when the landscape has completely changed
This is incomplete. You need a followup video where you actually discuss positives and negatives of various setups including Open Source technologies, socialism, and UBI.
Socialism doesn't work
I managed a Robot company until 2007. Looking closely at what my wife and I must do on a daily basis, retired, nothing is close to being possible with robotics anytime soon. Taking care of our elderly is not close to being automated. Unfortunately.
2007 was 11 years ago
As technology improves, productivity increases. This happened in first and second industrial revolution. Problem is that this wealth isn't distributed equally. It isn't that robots will make us poor. Capitalists will make us poor. Abolish capitalism. It's time for workers self-management.
capitalism is what drives productivity increase
Governments need to stop automation immediately. What do we vote them for?
Automation needs to be slowed down such that as people are educated and shifted to other more permanent jobs. What kind of society be that would be made on hunger and deaths of millions of poor?
if we want a civilized future we need to take the narrative from corporates.
there are no permanent jobs....theres just us and the bourgeoisie; and theyre winning.
first they'll take our jobs; then we'll kill each other
The most dire labor crisis possibly in history and you couldn't bother to speak with a single socialist? The answer is not new job training or more government welfare. The answer is for this new technology to be under the ownership of the people, not capitalists or the state. Automation should make our lives easier, yet everyone in this video is warning of social collapse. Why? The issue isn't the technology -- it's who has ownership of the technology. If we continue to allow wealthy individuals or powerful governments to be the sole owners of the machines we use to survive, we will be heading towards disaster. But, if we the people organize and unite, we can take control of these machines so they serve us, not the government or a few wealthy individual.
Or, like my comrade said below, let's seize the means of production! Let's built communism!
That's because there's no need to talk to a Socialist to solve these problems. A robot tax is very similar to owning shares in companies using robots. In a way it would be like part nationalisation or even direct ownership of some "automation share" or something like that. In a way it is like owning part of the means of production. You can see from this video that the tech giants themselves are bringing this up as a problem that will have to be addressed with UBI. They aren't fools, they know if they don't do anything about this problem there would be social upheaval and they would be primary targets.
Marx thought that innovation in his time would lead to no one needing to work. Clearly 100 years later, he was wrong. 100 years from now it will still be wrong. People have been fearing technology forever, all it does is raise the standards of living for everyone, not just a few. Pretty sure AJ+ did a video on this a year ago and now they have this completely contradictory series to promote socialism is kinda funny.
Exactly. And so then it would make sense that they're going to propose ideas that will mitigate the problem while forcing them to make the least of a sacrifice: a UBI. A robot tax is far from owning shares because the money would go to the government, not the people, and we'd still have no control over what happens with the technology. The same for shares in a company. The goal should be for technology to be the property of no one and every one. Just like Jonas Salk gave the polio vaccine to humanity, so should automation. Then we can finally live in a world in which no one is restricted from having the basics of survival and everyone can have a decent quality of life.
Except this video didn't promote socialism at all. In fact, it did exactly the opposite. That's why all the people they interviewed were capitalists.
Marx did not think technology would leave to the end of work in his lifetime, he didn't even live until the 20th century. What he was right about was that we are now able to produce more than enough that the people world needs to survive, yet there are still so many that are hungry and suffering. The problem has never been about whether or not humanity can create enough for everyone, the problem has always been who owns that production and who gets to benefit from its creation. That will be the central problem of automation. All these discussions about government taxes or social welfare are just window dressing.
Karsten Syversen I'm totally confused. Hmm, if I automate a robot for my factory I should give the ownership to the people? Whatever happened to free markets? I'm not going to invest and build automated robots just to give it away.
Our parents don’t understand whatsoever. When bowling alleys are fully automated they will continue to say anyone can get a job, meanwhile no one is having kids because they know opportunity is not given, life is not fair. Corperations have dodged their civil duty to help everyone meanwhile everyone has supported them in their greed.
They don't have any choice but to give universal basic income because business will still depend on consumerism so they need to spread the wealth because if they don't the economy will collapse. Universal basic income, universal free education or brain data transfer, a lot of things will change for better or for worse. We might survive or not but we should not be scared of the future, we should face it with courage.
Politicians are already giving bankers money for free so why not give some to the permanently unemployed?
What happens when people use UBI to stay at home and produce more children? Eventually there won't be enough UBI to sustain a higher population. Also, what happens when more people come into the country both legally and illegally? There won't be enough UBI to go around.
What makes you think that other countries won't have UBI?
The real issue is not the innovation or the automation itself. It's that the benefits that the tech brings remains within private hands.
If governments are smart, then they will bring the critical necessities for a respectable human life under government control and spread the benefits to the civilians. In other words, deploy automation for food production, housing, energy generation, heat generation, etc. and make sure that these are all government controlled. The benefits should then be distributed among the populace, serving as a universal basic income that is not monetary, but in nature.
Whatever Elon Musk says, we should follow
Follow the rich white man. That's never gone wrong...
all hail Musk right? but i will still take the UBI money it can't hurt .
I'm a MUSKeteer. 😳
Even if he is right with UBI and other ideas do yourself and whatever republic you are a citizen of a favor, don't get into personality cultism we have enough of that already.
No, no we shouldn't.
Excellent documentary. Thanks!
UBI is the future and humanity will be better for it but we must vastly reduce the population on this planet. Not by force of course but by preparation with education specially in developing countries. Developed countries already have a high aging population and low birth rates but this needs to spread to the rest of the world for the impact of automation and Ai to be more manageable.
I don't think there's anything to worry about, population wise.. The planet could easily sustain twice the population we currently have, if we did things right.. Tho thankfully some data seems to suggest the birth rates are already starting to level off on their own, and won't get much above 10bil simply due to human nature.
This planet can feed over 34 Trillion (yes, with a "T") people if we start farming vertically in 10+ story buildings.
Their is a long history showing 4 distinct stages populations go through. Pre industrialized economies generally have high rates of birth and high rates of death. Industrializing economies maintain their high birthrates but have lower rates of death, this is commonly what stokes the flames of fear. As the economy becomes mature industrialized the birth rates decrease as the demands of women reduce child rearing and the cost of children increases. Finally countries become post industrialized in which the birth rates go down to the point in which the population stabilizes. This process took over 150 years for Great Britain and the US but it happened in 50 years for China. The birth rate is no longer accelerating and we will continue to see birth rates grow slower until the global population stabilizes over the next century
Great job on the whole series Joel and team. Looking forward to what's next.
We NEED to start helping Africa more. Some people believe that humans need to pull a load, that humans need responsibility in their lives and to work. What better way than to send people to work in Africa while the robots do most of the domestic jobs?
Robot tax hahahha! Free humans from taxes. Let the robots pay. How about you make robots that clean up faeces from San Francisco streets.
And what about love energy
Better solution: Stop prolonging the inevitable and *drop capitalism already!*
Cucho Ushi ayyyyyyyyyy
Cucho Ushi seizing those means amirite?
Do you realize how hard it would be to just "drop" an entire social economical system, especially one that affects the very large majority of all humans on Earth?
Zach Crawford I do realize that, and I do realize that it becomes harder by the day. So now 2 questions for you:
1. Do you realize that the way capitalism affects all humanity (not just a majority) is through monetary coercion?
2. Do you realize how worse it will be too wait for capitalism eventual collapse?
A1) I does not affect all humans there are uncontacted tribes that have not interacted with the rest of humanity since they split off in the stone age. But for the majority of humans, yes I am aware of how it affects them. I am also aware of how it much production it has generated, (almost anyone can acquire a computer that fits in there pocket than is millions of times more powerful than what all of NASA had access to when it landed people on the moon and the majority of can access a knowledge base that is millions of time larger than any physical library). I am aware of the mass panic, anger and civil unrest there would be if you just one day told everyone that their money is worthless (it's happened several times). The fact is we don't even know what to replace capitalism with yet. UBI at least gives us some breathing room to find and try out a few new systems until we can find some that seem to work well and gives us time to transition into these new systems.
hypothetical scenario: you need to build a bridge to connect two cities that are on opposite sides of a river. neither city has the resources to pay the upfront cost for such a bridge, but the bridge has a potential to enhance the economy of both cities. so you're only left with a) borrowing money and pay high interest to the bank or b) robots build the bridge and you only have to pay the cost of the material.
You also need to buy the robots and maintenance for them.
It's scary to see the number of communism supporters in the comment section here. UBI is the worst you can do for this situation.
That woman running for mayor in SF is all that is wrong about the political system. Tax innovation. Tax anyone who's doing good. All this does is reduce the incentive for doing well. They want us all to be equal ie equally poor.
Then what the hell do you suggest? You can’t just put these things down without a better solution.
Money is not the primary driver of humanity. People want to do well for several reasons, whether it's to learn how things work, to impress the masses or experts with their excellence, to be the best, to actually help people, or even to just have a fun and engaging activity. There's plenty of incentive within our nature to work outside of obligation and there's also research indicating that being forced to do things can actually decrease our motivation.
"They want us all to be equal ie equally poor." - its more scary to see capitalist apologists still spewing this old horseshit
so automating everyones job is a good thing???
When automation takes job to that large extent UBI will save economy not hurt it.
In the end till ASI takes over democratization of means of production is only way to keep masses free from tyranny of few.
3:46 (checks video date) Yep seems about right, explains a lot
i have a crazy idea, but stop to have kids! we are overpopulated
this is like that futuristic conversation mankind had before the futuristic movie terminator happened
Great video, I once as a little boy had thought of the idea similar to universal basic income so it was a very valueable video to watch. Please, keep on making videos such as these related to the fourth industrial revolution in order to warn the population about the upcoming future.
12:07 that’s old guy is actually wearing a top hat 😂😂😂 like really man we get it you’re rich
10:18 made me really feel chills in my back.....
Steve Cousins of Savioke: taxing innovation does not equal stopping innovation. Steve Cousins of Savioke: taxing robots IS "redistribution in a way that makes sense."
I think people are overlooking a possiblity. The labor jobs will most likely be replaced by machines, but a lot of white collar office jobs will be replaced by computers. Who needs a human resource department, just download a program with an algorithm. Marketing? Algorithm for that. Financing? Algorithm for that.
In fact, automation does produce this phenomenon, but video producers ignore a problem. That is the resource. Even the large-scale application of productivity with machines has increased dramatically and requires no manpower. But energy and resources are still needed to sustain these devices for production. It is impossible for a 3D printer to print water out of sand. As we all know, the distribution of these resources and energy on the earth is unbalanced. It is impossible for Google to buy Saudi Arabia, Russian or Chinese oil companies or anything else. Technology giants cannot form a global monopoly unless they do have military power, and national rights will be very vigilant for them to enter the military field. Politics and even state power will largely limit the uncontrolled development of technology giants. But it is true that the genes of the bottom people will be largely erased, no matter which country will face huge social unrest in 10-15 years, whether it is the United States or Europe, China, Russia or even Japan, etc.
Good answer , our strategy as individual right now is to focus on Resource and acquiring capital.
There's flaw in reasoning. Already installed manufacturing capabilities are capped only by possible demand. But even zero cost labor won't mean that energy, materials and LOGISTICS will miraculously become free.
After watching this entire series I have to say you definitely put enough thought about the short term. No thought at all about the long term implications. We are about to enter the age of techno-abundance and what you are warning about is only the beginning of job losses. We now have the ability to end inequality world wide. We have the technology and the resources today to supply every man woman and child on earth a life of absolute luxury. The only thing standing in our way of achieving it is this antiquated economic monetary system that was invented to solve the issues of scarcity. We must evolve past this antiquated notion of material worth if we are going to successfully navigate into this future of abundance. A Resource based Economy is a workable solution to this issue.
i'm self employed. Just had a terrible Feb. I gained weight. I feel frustrated, aggravated, bored, maybe even slightly depressed. I could do some stuff to my house to kill the time but no work means no money. no money means no home improvements so.......I won't lose my job to a robot in the near future as i am in the home improvement business, and i expect things to pick back up, Feb always a tuff month........but I don't feel like UBI is a solution ( mentally ) for those who won't be able to get jobs
AJ+ the links in your last screen, to the other parts of this series, do not work.