Honda NC750X DCT Demo Ride | Honda Hangout 2023
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Demo ride of the 2023 Honda NC750X DCT at the Honda Hangout. My second ride with a DCT was a bit better than the first.
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I'm not sure "I'd get this bike for my wife" is really a compliment! Seriously though, I bought one recently and absolutely love it. I've been riding over 40 years on all sorts of bikes, and this is the best all rounder I've ever owned.
Yeah, it's compliment to the approachability of the bike, and my wife had expressed a small interest in the DCT, so after riding this one it seems the ideal candidate for her if/when she wants to ride! I agree on the all arounder comment: it's just so dang practical, well-behaved, that you can't ignore that. I love it for that reason. I use my bike as a means of a transportation regularly, not just a weekend toy. Thanks!
I can confirm a very balanced bike, powerful engine and good chassis, I have the manual version and am very satisfied.Biker - Greetings from Germany .
Thanks for stopping by! Greetings back from the States! lol Ride safe!
Just got my new NC-750XD 2 weeks ago. Just turned 150 miles on it and gave it, its first fuel fill up. Hands down the perfect bike for me.
Awesome! Thanks for sharing.
I finally found a 2022 750X bike. The Honda has 2000 miles and heated grips and Honda luggage.
Plenty of power smooth shifts. I have owned over 100 street bikes, no kidding. This is one of my favorites. Tell you what, ounce you ride a DCT automatic it’s hard to imagine going back to a clutch. I’m 59 yrs old and 5.08. Perfect bike for me. Excellent gas mileage, good in the twistys, and the frunk is perfect a small grocery run. Honda Nailed It!
Yeah they did. Even the demo ride leaders who have ridden all sorts of bikes said it was one of their favorites!
I bought mine in January, nice silver grey colour….I am returning to riding after 42 years….yep I was 19 when I last rode, my Yamaha RD250LC..until a drunk driver almost ended me…..I am taking it slowly, going to get some refresher lessons on a smaller bike….then come our summer, I am out every day, love my new bike, it fits my needs, DCT helps with my old injuries…..fair weather riding for me…..lovely scenery in northern Georgia, stunning in fact…thanks for sharing…..cheers from a very very wild storm lashed island of Jersey….the original just off the coast of France……cheers
Hi Karl! Glad you're still around to enjoy two wheels, and thanks for sharing your story and use of the NC. Cheers to you as well!
Have been riding for decades. Dispatch riding in London for 4 years in the 80's. Bought my NC750 DCT a year ago. Excellent bike, just the best. Won't be going back to gear shift. Could do with a little more horsepower, but not biggy. Loading my shopping into it, or my helmet, just soooo good. Riding winter and summer all year makes this perfect. If you want to pop wheelies, and burn off from the lights, then not this bike. You want the most practical bike on the Market, this is it.
Thanks for sharing your experience. I agree with you. This bike gets a lot of flak for "having no character", but it's not meant to burn up the streets, or out perform other bikes. It's very pragmatic and useable. Like the family sedan! I really appreciate it for that.
Let me guess the bike you had dispatching in London in the '80's. Kawasaki GT550 in red? 😉
Almost, Honda VT500 in red. Shaft drive, like a newer version of the then CX500 but the V in the opposite direction :) loved that job!@@ceeby69
At 65 years ole I just love my 2024 NC 750x DCT. This will be my forever bike because of health issues but I am still riding. A great bike for me .
I've put 29k miles on my 2018 750x in under 4 years. Fun and easy to ride and you want to ride it. Great exhaust note too.
Awesome! I would love to have one just for the commute. If they throw cruise control on there it would be nearly perfect. Thanks for stopping by!
A great review. No problem with my 2020 750XD (DCT) model. I live in Central Mexico and having a reliable bike which can travel distances without any worry and on which most maintenance can be easily done at home is a major selling point with this bike. Its frugal when it comes to fuel consumption even when riding at maximum highway speeds. I just completed a 2,400 kms round trip from Mexico City to McAllen, TX over 3 days - yeah! I was in a rush to get back home - and averaged around 3.5 litres per 100 km. Although some folks report the seat is a bit uncomfortable for a long rides I don't find that the case after fitting my bike with a natural sheepskin seat cover. This bike is also able to handle light off road such as gravel or dirt tracks especially if the stock tyres are upgraded to more suitable off road ones. For commuting and general riding the DCT transmission works like a dream and the sheer pleasure of not needing to manually change gears is great. The only downside to this bike is that its a bit on the heavy side but once its in motion it balances really nicely and handles very well. Love my bike!
Awesome, thanks for the info on the bike. I would really love to have one long term to check it out, but I can really appreciate how practical this thing is.
The seat isn't bad but my testicles do go numb after a long time in the saddle. I know it's weird but true. I'll look into a good seat cover or airhawk. Any suggestions are welcome.
These bikes are great for commuting and just riding the back roads. I love the frunk because it makes it so practical. They're low maintenance and get great fuel economy. My only wish is that it had cruise control, but these are made to a price point. I have a '22 manual and I love it and don't see myself getting rid of it anytime soon.
That's awesome. Yeah, I think I said it but it's just so practical. Cruise control would really elevate this bike to the next level. Maybe they should do a GT version with cruise and side cases included or something.
Unfortunately I had one and got ride several years ago- for no bad reason - But I had a test ride several weeks ago and was so impressed by the small improvements made - I have ordered a new one -- these NC750X DCT are a ideal bike for anyone- you gain confidence very quickly and a treat to ride.
This was the first year I've ridden a DCT, but I have heard the refinements in it over the years has gotten better and better, making it more seamless. Still, it's not for everyone, but certainly has a lot of appeal for various situations.
You said at around 4:40 that "not having to worry about shifting or controlling the clutch lever etc .... can help you really focus on the ride itself".
Before I ever rode my first bike with a DCT I would've said: "I've been riding bikes for decades, I shift intuitively, I don't even need to think about it."
But - this "automatic" actually does free you from the the shifting process, and I realized that I had more time to take in the scenery and was more relaxed.
Absolutely. I had been interested in the DCT, but admittedly I was thinking I would still prefer the clutch lever and all for more control, but I was proven wrong, and that's ok! I wish I had one for when I go in to work. Bad traffic here, so I wouldn't tire out my clutch hand!
Nice review and pretty much sums up exactly why I purchased this bike. It’s been absolutely fantastic both in city and touring. I also love the fact that it seems to sip the gas.
Thanks for checking it out. It's the epitome of Honda: Practical, fuel efficient, easy to maintain, and doesn't try to be the biggest/baddest bike on the road. The fast and powerful bikes get all the attention, but I can't ignore how practical this is.
Just bought one. Put 11 miles on it. It's a dream to ride.
I’m in the process of selling my scooter to be able to upgrade to this bike. I was back and forth between this and the Honda CB500X and it is exactly because it has a DCT that I’m getting this bike. That and I live in DC Metro area. Awesome video man!
Cool, thanks for checking it out. I'd be very interested in that CB500x as well. I'd love to know what you're experience is with the bike over time. Drop a comment back here in the future! Ride safe!
I assume that you know that there is a scooter version with the same engine, frame and drive train.
Thanks, appreciate the review! Considering moving up to this from my little maxi scooter Burgman 400.
Thanks for checking it out! I was very impressed with it. Again, DCT is a game-changer. Certainly not for everyone, but if manual shifting is a concern then this certainly does away with that. Also, like I mentioned I would love it for commuting to work. I go into Atlanta for my office job a couple days a week and this would be wonderful! Some people will hate on it because it is like a scooter with the "twist and go", but I say if you're on two wheels it's all good! I like it!
I plan on getting one next summer for my 18th birthday
Nice! Come back in a year and let us know how you like it. Love to hear feedback from the owners. Thanks for checking out the video.
Don't underestimate the ADV capacity on the NC750X DCT.
A Canadian living in Thailand have put over 260 000 KM/161 000 Miles on it in a few years somewhat rough conditions. He have been driving a lot in different countries in South East Asia on dirt roads, mud roads and off road. And been all the way up in the Himalayan mountains to the first Base Camp at Mt. Everest.
A russian man living in Germany had a non DCT and went all over East Europe to Central Asia on bad roads, gravel roads, dirt roads, mud roads and even over rivers.
I am not sure if the new model with shorter front suspension will still do the roughest stuff those mentioned men did. But it sure is more than a every day bike for sure.
Mike Freerider!
@@BitBrujo Yes! 😀
Oh I'm sure it can do it. Got a buddy with the NC700X (not DCT) who takes his off roading, but he did have to upgrade the suspension and then put knobbies on it. My point was out of the box it's really more "road adventure" than "dirt adventure". If you're doing a bunch of ADV stuff I'd still recommend a spoked-wheel bike, and something with a little bit more off-road DNA built in to it, but you are right, this could certainly go ADV with a few tweaks! Thanks!
Not the same bike. They ruined the ADV part lowering the carter
@@danmac0 Right. The current X is actually a S version (which was discontinued) with more plastic.
I miss my 2017 S and would've bought a new S version already, but now I'm looking for a used X for a good price.
I'm glad to hear a review from a taller rider. At 6'4" ergonomics are always an issue. The DCT gives me the opportunity to get back on 2 wheels after a work related accident left me unable to adeptly manipulate a clutch. I'm definitely going to give these a look.
You probably heard, but Honda has developed an e-clutch as well today seems to be a bridge of quick shifter and an automatic, where you still shift but you don't need to use the lever. I want to see more about that. Anyway, the NC is just a basic, solid bike. Good luck with the 2 wheels journey! Glad there are options like this now. Thanks for checking out the video.
@ghostontwowheels I've read up on those too. I've thought about just adding on the foot shifter instead of using the paddle version already on the bike but honestly, I just enjoy the ride and it seems as if sport mode is a big perk to make things a bit more lively. At 52, I'm not really looking for a track day anymore, it's just about getting out and enjoying myself.
That's good to hear your 6 ft 4 inch tall I am 6 ft 2 inches tall I am taking one out tomorrow for a test ride a dct
I have the 2015 NC700X DCT. It's a great bike !!
Ive owned 19 bikes in my riding career, id place the nc750x dct at number 3 in my list, I'll probably buy another
Nice! Curious, what would be 1 and 2?
Bmw f 750gs in second, and moto guzzi v85tt first.
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Great video, I've been riding since I was 9 years old starting my way through 2 stroke dirt bikes to sport bikes to large Suzuki scooters (wifey approved plus a bad back) and now own a 2020 Manual NC-750X with no Nanny aids and find it to be almost the swiss army knife because what it was designed for it does extremely well, I will be 58 this coming June and this may very well be my last bike.
It's such a good all around bike. Doesn't get a lot of love in the US because it's not a thrilling engine, but neither is that Toyota Camry. It just gets the job done! Thanks for the comment. Ride safe!
Have you ever tried the "Nanny aids"? I was looking for a used manual because I thought that it's lighter, cheaper, less can go wrong, and I don't need a DCT. Then I found a great deal close by, with DCT, and it completely fascinated me so much that I decided that my next bikes will have DCT for sure.
Best explanation of DCT (“two clutch levers”) I almost understand it now.
Thanks! It's a neat piece of engineering. I really like it. And it seems like Honda has refined this very well. Once I was into the ride I wasn't worried that it would shift in a corner and cause any instability. It was a concern initially about a "rough shift" leaned over, but even when it did it was so smooth I just forgot it was even shifting. I could enjoy the ride itself so much more. Thanks for checking it out!
Interesting review, i have the 2016 manual version but im keen to try out a dct, those mountain roads look amazing i could play on those all day, thanks for sharing.
Thanks for checking it out. That DCT is different. I don't think I'd seek it out on a bike, but for something like that I'm not opposed to it. I think it's also just another option to get people into riding, or for those who don't want to fool with the shifting all the time.
I am loving mine so far. Same color as this one. I did get a taller windscreen, handlebar riser, crash bars, handguards, and I'm about to install driving lights and usb outlet. The lights are decent but have severe blindspot in the turns. I also have sw-motech saddlebags for the long trips but don't keep them on all the time. I got used to non clutch riding from commuting on scooters so I like it that way now. The frunk is nice to have too. The only thing I wish it had is cruise control like the rebel 1100 dct I had before this one. But I like the NC750x way more overall. Just not into cruisers.
Yeah I think cruise control and a taller windscreen would make it an awesome tourer! Thanks for sharing!
i wish only they would add dual front brakes to this not just for braking but would look much better
I agree, dual front brakes would be great for this, for the looks and for function. Honda upgraded their 500 line with dual brakes recently, you'd think a 750 would definitely have it. That being said I wouldn't be surprised to see a dual upgrade on the next generation NC in a year or two. Thanks for checking out the video!
i wish all company making DCT
Yeah. I know not everyone likes it, but I think it's great that it's an option now. The new Kawasaki hybrids are basically automatic too, but have the button shifters.
The NC750 certainly has more utility, just not an only bike for me. Hope you rode the Wing too.... :)
I didn't get to ride the Goldwing. After my second ride most everything was booked up. I don't think I'm up to Goldwing status just yet anyway! That's the retirement bike! lol Yeah, I see what you're saying about the NC. It could be the "everyday bike" in your garage to compliment other more specific bikes (dirt, supersport, ADV), but for experienced riders or riders with a very specific type of riding this wouldn't check all the boxes for that person. Thanks for checking it out!
Im definitely loving all the videos I've seen..2024 will probably be my last bike as im 56 and knee injuries....will drive until im forced to stop
Hope you can keep on riding, but take care of yourself. Thanks for checking out the video!
My old NC700S has made it to almost 50 000km by now. They are fantastic motorbikes that just keep running. Also if you noticed, the very flat engine makes the bike "jump" forward a little when starting it ;-)
I didn't really notice it, but it would be interesting to compare the DCT version to the standard. But yes, great platform. It's not flashy, but efficient!
Should be if my Honda Click 125i (2016 year model) have allready 76000km without any problem :D
The Africa Twin requires a much beefier transmisssion as it's will be required to do so much more with twice the power. And all of us would choose that Honda over your Vrsys
Solid review. I don't know that they excite me for the price. Looks really smooth though.
Yeah the price has been creeping up on this model... but honestly what item these days hasn't?! I think it's one of those things where when you look at the spec sheet on this bike and there's nothing "WOW" about it, but the components fit well, very practical, and Honda quality. I think if you equate it to the car world it's like a Honda CR-V in a world that wows at Corvettes and Porche 911's. It doesn't get attention, but it's just so darn easy to use and practical. I too was surprised at how smooth it was.
Мотоцикл просто огонь !!! Очень практичный и надëжный друг! Спасибо за работу.
Это очень практично, и я бы не отказался иметь такой для работы. Спасибо за просмотр видео. (I hope that is right!)
The NC is the perfect bike for 99 percent of people it's gets these is it any good reviews that make people question it kind of like people hated Nicole back for no reason, I've had one for 2 years and willl always have something on a similar platform, I would like to addd a bike with more power to my stable, but never give up the reliability mileage and usability of the NC it trumps power buy a lot.
Got one in new Zealand only get the manual down here loving it great bike 🏍
Cheers
Awesome! It's interesting how some places only get the manual. In the US for this model year they only have the DCT version. I'm sure they have their reasons, but regardless the platform is very solid! Thanks for sharing!
Only manual in Australia also. I want a DCT.
I think this would be great for crunching miles off the interstate, but it’s not an ADV bike no matter what Honda says. ADV implies off-road, meaning a bigger front tire, more ground clearance and lots of suspension travel. This bike has none of these.
I don't disagree, but to some "Adventure" can mean a road Adventure. Much like my Versys, it's under Kawasaki's "Adventure", or an "Adventure Touring", but I agree the "ADV" letters implies off-road usage. But I know someone who took an NC700 off road like a champ. Put some knobbies on with a little improved suspension and you can do some stuff. Technically any bike can be an ADV bike if you're brave enough... or stupid enough! lol Thanks for checking out the video!
To get to the valves you have to drop the radiator, and then they're right there in front.
Looking forward to the day I can put my NC700X back to road service. With the upgraded suspension I have it will continue being "Pretty OK" at whatever I need it to do. Although, I wouldn't mind having the extra 8 or so HP that the 750 has.
If Honda would give the U.S. the X-ADV, then I would probably think about upgrading my NC700X to that.
Are you Doug?!?
@@ghostontwowheels I've been known to go by that name.
Let me know when you want to demo a 2016 NC700X SP.
Then you should try the NT 1100dct wow, it's like the 750x with much more power,then the Xadv scooter 750 so like me my nt 1100 is my big travel bike my nc 750x is county cruiser,but around town x adv750;.
But af twin dct for trailer in outback trailer but the x750 adv does local trails
Unfortunately that model hasn't come to the US yet. I would like to try it out! Seems like it would be a very nice touring bike! Thanks!
@@ghostontwowheels exactly,so do what I did ,I purchased a new NT 1100 dct from a English dealer,plated with a English tag ,an had it shipped as a touring the world bike, English plates are good in states ,think of all those people traveling the world,you really think they buy a bike every time they go into another country it's the trade agreement as alliance to NATO &TRADE . I've done this several times.it might be a little more pricey,but I have several bikes in states,that still aren't here. Like the Honda Forza 750 scooter dct , it's like X ADV750 but more ability for off-road duties.. got three shipped by air an by sea ,yup . Used them for 8 months respectfully,keeping mileage down then sold them quickly,to those around me paying attention broke even on two the last gave me a little bit more,an I just purchased another XADV750, an registered to my boat as I ATV land toy for countries I'll visit by sea.i bought three NT1100 dct bikes one is registered to boat one I cruised around the dragon tail north&south thru Georgia up Tennessee and Kentucky to Missouri.
Switched bikes for different color an did Missouri Oklahoma New Mexico Arizona Utah Wyoming Nebraska back to Missouri, last year did a private sale auction too several people,that knew what I did ,an poof gone in a blink all.
Remember Honda sales many vehicle vessels in states including some cars never originally sold here but we're shipped here by veterans administration,for those stationed over seas .there are so many buyers begging for the NT1100dct finding is like waving your hand after breaking wind.
With Thumb Shifter even the Young Folks, can shift at will--me being a Old Fart, I am Tired of Shifting especially in Stop-Go Traffic...
Really wanted to upgrade my old model to a new one but the seat height being 800 instead of 830 on the old one means it won't be happening. Too low now for tall people, 6'2" plus. I'll be keeping my old one, thanks Honda. 🙂
in the U.S. companies like Seat Concepts make +/- 1" comfort seats for this bike. That would take up all but 5mm of the difference in seat height for you.
@@DonkeyDongDoug Yes, I could get the seat remade but don't particularly want to do that with a brand new bike. There's no reason why Honda couldn't have done a variable seat height as they have with the Africa Twin for years.
I agree.I like the bike, I really do but at 6' 2" and 295 ibs I think I am too big for it. I'm staying with my Kawasaki Versys 1000.
I have the Honda Forza 750 NSS750 in the United Kingdom. Same engine. It's a real delight
Yet another option we don't have in the US. Maybe I need to just go to the UK for some test rides with all the models! ha! Thanks for stopping by!
@@ghostontwowheels Good Evening. Do you have the Honda X-ADV If you do it’s nearly the exact styling but the Forza has more of touring look. Forza is more on the European market.
@@marcus577 We only have the ADV 150 here I believe. Sad times.
@@marcus577 True, but have you looked at the price of the ADV? It's got upside down forks and lots of electronic gimmicks, but you pay for it.
@@ghostontwowheels I bought a ADV 160 here in Thailand, am quite happy with it.
Had an SH150i before that but have to say I like the ADV better, overall, even though the looks took me a while.
Funny thing is that the SH has 16" wheels and space for a full size helmet, but smaller tank.
Now I have a jet helmet and can't get it under the seat even though the wheels are 14 and 13"!
Please comment on the comfortability for your height. I am also a tall rider at 6ft 1 inch. I have my eye on this bike, but I am concerned about seat height. Thanks.
I ride 2019 NC 750x manual. I am 6ft 3'' with 36" inseam. Went to alps with this bike. Litle bit cramped, but you can always stand up and strech. It is fine up to 400km, after that, I need a rest :)
I thought how I was sitting initially I would feel a bit cramped, but it seemed pretty comfortable to me, but it was only a 20 minute ride. I am 6'2" and while it's not a huge bike I still felt very comfortable on it. I usually have to take breaks for my but before my legs. 😅
@@ghostontwowheelsThank you for your advice. That's good news.
@@slowly5092Thank you for your input. Greatly appreciated.
Look for a good 2021 and earlier model, seat height is 30mm higher.
😂 wow I would’ve fallen asleep if you hadn’t put that into sport mode 😂
Yeah... that's fair! But it's not meant to be a "look at me bike", it's just dang practical. But yes, that's why out the gate I was like Sport mode to start! ha!
That’s actually not a bad looking bike.
The first iteration of it (NC700X) in 2012 I believe was a little 'meh', but in 2016 it got a refresh, and then just again a couple years ago when they upped to the 750. I like the look of it too!
Do you have the OEM instructions for installing the OEM fog lights? Thanks
I do not, but maybe someone else can come along with that info. May want to check the service manual for that!
I just bought a 2023 black
Nice! How do you like it?
Here we go
Trading "Firsts"! lol
@@ghostontwowheels also, why don't you shift the gears yourself. Like a real motorcyclist would do? 😆
I just wanted to be in another category of riders that elitist, MC a-holes could be mad at...
@@ghostontwowheels lol
I like this bike however I'm just not willing to trade my Kawasaki Versys 1000 for it. I love my versys.
Same. Versys 1000 is definitely better than this one, but it also costs twice as much as the NC, so it should be better! But the NC is still a nice little bike, and I hope it can bring more people into riding two wheels!
History
Hondamatic 1978-1983
VW R32 2003 - 1st production car with DCT
Aprilia Mana 850 CVT 2007
2010 VFR1200F - 1st motorcycle with DCT
NC700X in 2012
CTX700 2013
VRF1200X 2014
NM4 2014
Africa Twin 2016
NC750X in 2014
NC750X redesigned in 2016
X-ADV 2017
Goldwing DCT 2018/19
NC750X updated again in 2019
upgraded 2021
Rebel 1100 DCT - new for 2021
2021 redesign, TBW, Dash, bigger tank, storage, lower seat, suspension, lower weight
Good info. Thanks!
Try Xadv, even better...
I bet that thing is a hoot!
Nice bikes but suspension woeful imo
Yeah, suspension could be better, but for me in my ride of it, wasn't bad for the road. if you had any off-road dreams with this suspension would be the first thing to change! ha! Thanks for checking out the video!
How can you evaluate a bike properly if they let you drive at such low speed only? Makes no sense to have a escort guy like that 🤷♂️
Well, true, so take this for what it actually is... An escorted demo ride. I'm glad they offered the chance to do demo rides, but you're right, certainly it'd be better to have a long term review, but Honda wouldnt let me take it home. Dangit.
Good idea, pay the bike for your wife and you tihe bike.
And please, can we get away from classifying bikes as men’s, or women’s? Women can ride anything they choose and so can men. It’s just an asswipe type of classification.
Curious, who was classifying this bike in that way?
To clarify, while I did say I'd get this for my wife, that in no way limits it to saying this is a women's bike. As I also mention in the video I would use it a commuter, or even a light touring bike, and I would consider myself under that "men" classification. :-)
What do you need your Versus for? I can think of dozen bikes better thatn your versus!
Ok ... I'll bite... I'm sure there are better bikes out there, and they probably cost more than what I paid for my bike, but I'd be curious as to what you think those twelve would be? Sport bikes and anything over $20k doesn't count! :-). But maybe you'll mention one I could consider in the future, so thanks for the potential future advice!
Having ridden north of a half century and owning over 30 bikes, I can't imagine "not" shifting...I'm not mocking those that enjoy this technology, but in my mind shifting is a big part of the magic..grabbing the clutch and massaging the gears is what riding is about......No disrespect to this young man narrating...just an old riders opinion..
I completely understand. I enjoy the shifting, and would prefer that as well, however for those that want to enjoy the ride, the scenery, the wind, etc, rather than focusing on what gear to be in this is a great option. I think it's a really good thing to have more options that can accommodate people getting on to two wheels. The idea of shifting manually can be a barrier, and right now the motorcycling community has too many barriers! Again, just glad there are more options to fit what each individual person wants! Thanks for checking out the video!
@@ghostontwowheels ride safe..
@@ghostontwowheels 100%. I'm taking the MSF course next week and it was this vs a Ninja 400/z400 as a beginner bike. The fact that I can pay attention to other drivers, the road, conditions, counter-steering and not worry about clutch control or stalling out is why I'm choosing this. It would be amazing if there was a 300/400cc sportbike engine that had DCT. I would be all over that.
The DCT is a wonderful thing for some riders that don’t want a clutch. The same people that criticize that tech are the same folks that drive their auto transmission cars, but want everything to stay the same with the buggy whip and horse of two wheels. The Livewire brand and twist and go are great!