How to tie the STONE PONY: Go-to Euro STONEFLY pattern
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- The Stone Pony is an original pattern of mine that I came up with to represent the smaller Golden Stoneflies I frequently see. Stoneflies have a 3 year life cycle, so not every bug you see is large. Size 14s (and even 16s) are very common. I have had ton of success when I fish this smaller stonefly pattern. It has become my go-to stonefly pattern.
Spin some up and I feel like you will have similar success.
Tight lines!
Cory
Ingredients:
Hook: Hanak 470 size 14
Bead: Copper 3.3mm slotted tungsten
Thread: Uni 8/0 Camel (or similar make in brown)
Dubbing: Troutline Mad Rabbit Dubbing: Yellow
Collar: Siman Peacock Dubbing Fine, 09 UV Bronze
Tail/legs: Montana Fly Company, Barred Sexi Floss: Golden Yellow, size small
Ribbing: UTC Ultra wire, Sculpin Olive (or Brown), size BR
*Color back with a brown sharpie
#flytying #stonefly #euronymphing - กีฬา
I love your patterns. Simple but effective.
Appreciate it, Jeremy. Tight lines to you!
Been waiting for this one. Thanks so much for another great video and pattern. Will tying some up soon.
Appreciate it, Joseph. It will be a good one in the box. Good luck to you!
Your videos are A+++, very clear and well done.
Thank you, Carlton. Glad they are helping!
We’ve been waiting for this one Cory , and I’ll be tying up a bunch soon ! What I love about this stone pattern is the movement of the legs ! It’s gotta look so buggy drifting down the river bottom! 14 seems like a perfect size for this fly ! Tight lines buddy!
Thanks, Tony! It’s going to work for you! You will ripped them up on the Farmington. Let me know how you do. Tight lines!
Being from Jersey, that’s a great name for that fly. The flows upstate are great right now. This weekend I’m hitten the Esopus and the Upper East Branch. 👍
Louie, glad you picked that up! My wife is a Jersey girl, and she definitely had influence on the name. Just fished the Beaverkill on Sunday and it was in perfect shape. Tight lines to you!
Thank you for sharing your skills - another great video.
Appreciate it, Sead!
When I grow up I want to be like Cory. Thoroughly enjoyed, learned some tips for techniques of tying things in and now have another tried and true pattern!
Hahaha. Appreciate it, Mike! I think you will like it...you will be definitely bust them on this!
Hey Cory! Stones are one of my favorite point flies especially early Spring. I usually tie in the larger sizes but like the idea of downsizing to the 14. Love your ribbing tip!!! Great stuff as always. Thanks and tight lines my friend!!
Hey Vinny! Appreciate it. Make some room in your box. If you like stones, these will treat you well! Tight lines, my friend!
Thank you so much for the instructional video! Watched the video where you fished with Scott Major, last spring, and had so much success with this pattern. So glad the tying video for this pattern "popped up" on the screen! Your explanations are very thorough and easy to follow. Thanks again!
Glad it helps, Michael! Appreciate you watching and good luck with the Stone Pony. It's a good one! Tight lines!
Excellent content as always. I'm very much addicted to euro nymphing and your videos have been excellent tools. I'm currently recovering from slicing my arterie, tendon,and nerve on my rod arm so keep fishing for me! I'm ready for tight lines again indeed.
Thank you, Hunter. Really appreciate it! Damn….that injury sounds tough. Here’s to a speedy recovery and soon to be tight lines!
Thank you for the very informative videos. I love your take on a stonefly nymph. Mine always turn out bulky but I look forward to trying some of the techniques you’ve demonstrated in your vids. Keep up the good work!
Glad they help. Good luck with this bug. It will be a good one for you. Tight lines!
I appreciate you time a dedication!!!
Thanks so much, Thelis!
Awesome fly! Can't wait to tie a few! That two tone - brown back and golden body looks nice!
Thanks, Justin! It's gonna catch you some. Good luck with it!
Another great video, another great pattern. Love the sizing down to a 14 for this and Troutline’s rabbit dubbing is #1 in my book, I use it for all of my Walt’s worms as well (yellow paired with light pink or copper tungsten bead is a killer). Gonna add some of these to my box this week. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you, Michel. Troutline is awesome stuff. Totally agree with you…#1. Love the sound of that Walt’s combo. Good luck with this bug! Tight lines!
Cory - great video. Appreciate in particular the way you show how to splay the legs. Thanks!
Appreciate you watching, Scott. Spin some up…they will catch for you!
Thank you for this Cory
Sure thing, James. Tight lines!
Hey Cory! Looks like one of the easier to tie patterns that I have seen yet so effective for you. I’ll have to give a shot. Love the name,being a Jersey guy spent many a night at the Pony.
Thank you, Dale! Spin some up, it will be a good one for you. Love how you got the name...my wife is a Jersey girl and she played a part in it!
Tied up a couple of these for my upcoming PA trip. Fingers crossed! Thanks for the video!
Awesome! Good luck with them!
Thanks for the video ! Caught a nice rainbow on a stone pony yesterday! I really liked how it got down more so than a pats rubbers legs variant very cool
Awesome to hear, Jerome! This is definitely my go-to stone fly. Glad it is working for you!
Thanks for another Great Video 👍
Appreciate it, John. Tight lines!
Great looking pattern Corey.
Thanks so much, Randy!
Great pattern and tutorial!
Thanks, JB. Tie sum up!
Great fly, Cory! Time for me to buy some new ingredients, really liked this one.
Appreciate it! Always a good time for buying new ingredients! I feel confident it’s going to catch you some fish.
Great demonstration
Thanks, Michael. Appreciate it!
Love this!!!!!!!!!
It's a fish catcher!
Dang it! Now I’ve gotta go back to the fly shop to buy more materials. Great looking fly. Tight threads!
Haha. A good excuse to go back! Appreciate you watching. Tight lines!
I am learning that to be successful at Fly fishing it is really about the details, you reinforce that with each video. I need to tighten it up.
Appreciate that, George. It really is all about the details. Tight lines to you and thanks for watching.
Great video and pattern thanks.
Appreciate you watching, Mike!
Nicely designed fly Cory! It should be in the Umpqua catalog.
Appreciate it, Blue Jacket! Awesome compliment!
Thanks Corey. Looks like a pretty east tie.
Super easy tie, John. Appreciate you watching.
Cory great video and thanks for the leg tips. I always hated tying them. lol Thanks
Appreciate you watching, Al. Glad it's helpful. Tight lines to you.
Great fly!
Appreciate it, John. It will catch them for you!
Very Cool Pattern! May tie a few for the Tulley!
It will bust them on the Tulley for sure! Thanks for watching, Uni!
Great pattern.
Thank you, Ryan. If you spin some up-I'm sure it will be a good one for you.
If I didn't know better and was just listening to your voice I'd swear I was listening to George Daniel. I'm sure you know who he is. Nice tie by the way. I'm gonna tie some up.
Appreciate that, Tim. Good company to be in….George is the man! Thanks for watching and good luck with this bug!
I live in Illinois without trout. I use trout flies for panfishing. I like your channel!!
Glad it's working for you, Mike. Appreciate you watching!
Love the looks of this, now all I need to do is find the dubbing… Thanks for sharing! 🎣
It is a fish catcher, Joseph! The dubbing can be found at Tactical Fly Fisher. Good luck with it!
Yeah I saw that but they’re out of the yellow. 😣 I think I have something close for the time being?!
Cool. Looks like a variant of the Bizarro Jerry by Flying Ties. He uses Peacock Herl and CDC. I like your dubbing here as well.
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks, Big Mick. I’ve seen that one…It’s a great bug. This one has put a lot of fish in the net for me. Appreciate you watching.
Great corry thanks!!
Thanks so much, Scott. Spin some up!
@@OldDominionTroutBum oh I will now.. I have a pattern but I like this size hook too.
Like the motion those tails and legs will provide.
It's a fish catcher, James. Appreciate you watching.
I tied up some of these a few weeks back before my trip to the N.C. mountains. Caught several nice fish with it. It is nice alternative to a Pat’s rubber legs. I agree with comments about the smaller profile. Get more takes.
Great to hear, Bob. Glad it is working for you. I was just in WNC a few weeks ago. Beautiful area. Love it there.
I color the opposite side ,as the fly should invert with the jig style hook. Great pattern
Glad you spun some up, Terbo. It really doesn't matter what side you color, as all bugs twist and turn in the current. For me, it’s just easier and ascetically more pleasing to the human eye. Appreciate you watching.
I love it. Must order few materials and to the vise :) cheers
I think you are going to like this one. Cheers to you as well.
This fly caught fish when nothing else worked. Great fly!
Love to heat it, Mr. T! Appreciate you watching!
@@OldDominionTroutBum
I tried a double fly rig today on a bigger river than I normally fish.
I used the stone pony as my point and the Olive flash Perdigon as my dropper.
Second cast I hooked two fish!
Not making it up
A big rainbow and I smaller one getting jerked around.
The big one got away, i landed the little one and he was a 14" rainbow!
Crazy moment that I won't forget.
Thank you again for the great flies and other videos!
@MrTenkara that is AWESOME! Congratulations. Double the fun!
Nice fly.. they were all over the Willowwemec this weekend
Appreciate it, Flycast. Tons of stoneflies in that area. Love that area, btw.
@@OldDominionTroutBum yes, great fishing.. looking forward to spending the whole week leading into Memorial Day Weekend!! See ya on the river!!
Another excellent video -- thanks! Question: what dubbing would you recommend for skwalas? Got them in the local river here (Lower Yuba River).
Appreciate it, Robert! I would tie them the same. They really resemble Golden Stones and I know this will work for them. Perhaps have some in Olive as well and darken the back with the same brown marker. Good luck!
Hey, first off loving your videos, and your tying vids are super easy to follow. Question on this one though when you are coloring your fly with the sharpie...didnt you do that upside down? In the vice it looks great, but that fly will ride reverse in the water. Definitely tying some of these though. See you in the VA waters sometime soon, maybe.
Christopher, this is a pretty popular question.
Bugs twist and turn in the current all the time. Nothing really rides parallel to the bottom. Sometimes the trout sees the top, sometimes the bottom. Even when hanging straight down-it will still shift from side to side with the micro currents. The trout won’t mind the which way it comes at them. You can color the other side and you will catch just as many. It is just simply easier to color it this way.
Thanks for watching and hope this helps.
Thanks! Great vid we were waiting for this one. I think I have trout line dubbing and the spikey stuff too in every color except yellow 🙃 when do the materials end.
Haha. You can never have too much dubbing, Preston! Troutline is good stuff and the materials NEVER end. Good luck with this bug!
Thank you very much. I have learned so much from watching your videos. I live in Central New York and have never fished the Delaware or any of the Catskills rivers. I have been trying to figure out where you are fishing there.
Glad the videos are helping, Butch! Appreciate you watching. Tight lines to you!
Dig this pattern…especially as a little yellow stone nymph for any waters that hold good numbers of those.
Appreciate it, PF. Definitely works for little yellow stones-size 16s especially. No need to color the back brown. Good luck with it!
Banging.
Sooo good
Appreciate it, Pat!
Nice video Cory I’m gonna have to give this one a shot. On an unrelated topic to the fly, do you find you’re better able to maintain contact with lighter nymphs with the 2 weight rod as opposed to the 3 weight ? Or why might someone choose a 2 over a 3 other than the average side fish they will catching. I have a 3 weight myself and it is great but I just wanted to hear some feedback from someone who has both.
Thanks so much, Nathaniel.
This is a great question. I have both 2 and 3wts. Most of the time I choose my rod based on the water I’m fishing as opposed to the size of the fish. Stronger/heavier currents require more weight from your bugs. In this case, I will choose my 3 weight. It has greater recovery from the load of the heavier bugs. The beauty about it is it can cast and fish lighter bugs as well, up to a point. I feel like I’m in great contact with two 2.3 bugs, but less with one 2.3.
The 2wt, however, is a dream with lighter bugs and you can cast one 2.3 and stay in contact as well. I fish a lot of 2.8s with a 2.3 dropper. If you need to go heavier, you can easily cast it, but it doesn’t recover as quick. So, sometimes if I am fishing 2wt water but have serious wind and will have to ‘weight up’ my bugs, I’ll go with my 3wt because it will fish better for me. Recently, I was fishing in some serious wind with my 2wt and had a 3.8 mop on to combat it. I watched the video and I could see how slow my rod was to recover because it was loading so much. I honestly should have used my 3wt.
All of this being said, I love my 2wts the best. It fits my style more. Light leader, light tippet. To me, they are the ultimate finesse rod. Hope this helps.
@@OldDominionTroutBum I guess the 2 weight is more versatile as long as you’re not fishing extremely heavy flies. I could see how the 2 weight could be especially useful with a single 2.0-2.5mm bead in shallow water also. Great Response👍🏻
I'm having a hard time finding the hanak 470 hook. Seems sold out everywhere. Do you have any recommendations on an alternative hook? Love your videos. Thank you in advance.
Bill, the Hanak 400 is a great hook that is very similar. Appreciate the kind words and thanks for watching.
Im enjoying your videos. I’m in southeast pa. I’ve yet to see a large stonefly. I’ve only been fly fishing for a year though. Do you tie these in a 16 as well or mainly 14?
Appreciate it, U H! I don't tie them in 16s. 14s and 12s are the sizes I tie, with my go-to size being a 14. Thanks so much for watching and tight lines!
I caught a nice brown on the Narrows with this last week. Thanks for the recommendation. Beautiful section of creek reminds me of a creek I fish often in berks county
That’s awesome to hear! That is a pretty section.
Great looking fly. Do you ever tie them in other colors? Maybe a brown or black?
Thanks, Chrisse. I also tie them in black (with purple mottled legs and tail) and natural HE (with the same legs in the video) that I will color the back brown. But if you see brown stones where you fish-brown will definitely work.
Appreciate you watching.
U r using a jig hook/ slotted bead combo yes? Thus wouldn’t the fly run hook tip up mostly in the water and thus wouldn’t u color (with the brown sharpie) the other side of the fly?
Hey JS. Flies don't ride perfectly level with the bottom. As a matter of fact, traditional hooks ride straight up and down. Jig hooks ride at more of a 45 degree angle. That being said, bugs get tossed and turned in the drift. Trout see them right side up, upside down and sideways all of the time. Hope this helps and thanks for watching.
I was actually wondering the same thing lol.. love this tie and all of your videos 👍👍
Fantastic tie, with your usual excellent meticulous detail !
This probably is a moot point, but if the fly floats hook up, wouldn’t the top be the part of the fly by the bend , for brown sharpie coloring purposes ?
Thanks Brian! Aaaaah the age old question….😊
Hooks don’t ride parallel to the bottom. They hang straight up and down. (Jig hooks at a slight 45 degree angle) Tie your fly on, then hold your tippet with your fly dangling down-that’s how it looks in the water. They twist and turn in the current, just like real bugs do. The trout sees them coming belly first, back first, side first and everything in between. So it really doesn’t matter where you put it. It’s just easier to do it this way and ascetically more pleasing to the human eye. Hope this helps and thanks for watching.
@@OldDominionTroutBum thanks so much for this intelligent answer! You’re a true credit to this great hobby !
Nice pattern! Might have been mentioned already, but should you paint the other side brown since it will ride upside down with the jig hook?
Thanks Joel! It’s a common mistake that most people think our bugs ride parallel to the river bottom when in fact they hang straight down, sometimes at a 45 degree angle, twist and turn, etc…with the current. Real bugs do the same thing. They get knocked around all the time. Sometimes the trout see the bottom of the bug and sometimes they see the top. So, honestly it doesn’t really matter what side you color. But for me, it’s more pleasing to the eye colored this way. Hope this helps.
@@OldDominionTroutBum totally get that with a ring eye hook and no bead! But with the jig hook the center of gravity is just somewhat aft of the center of lift which would most likely result in 45 degree hang like you mentioned - but with the wrong side up. Of course that's imagining there's no current or other factors, so probably a moot point. Thanks for the reply!
Where do you get the Siman dubbing from? Hard time finding it. Thanks.
If you are having a hard time in the US, you may have to go overseas. If not, you can substitute it with any brownish/bronze ice dub. I do like the thinner ones. Hope this helps.
Great tie Cory. I'm about to tie up a bunch. Incredibly, I have all the ingredients already, including the dubbing from Jan Siman and the Mad Rabbit in Yellow from my favorite source in Romania. I just want to bring to your attention that your ingredients list is missing the final item: Siman Peacock Dubbing Fine, 09 UV Bronze. Not sure if you can still add to your note. Thanks and regards.
How in the heck did I leave that out?! Appreciate you catching it, Scmoonkie!...just fixed it! The Stone Pony will be good to you. Thanks for watching and good luck with it.
Greatly appreciate you putting in the time. But 1 thing I noticed! This is a jig fly, so it's going to fish point up. So should the marker go on the point side?????
Thank you, Mike!
The age old question……
Hooks don’t ride parallel to the bottom. They hang straight up and down. (Jig hooks at a slight 45 degree angle) Tie your fly on, then hold your tippet with your fly dangling down-that’s how it looks in the water. They twist and turn in the current, just like real bugs do. The trout sees them coming belly first, back first, side first and everything in between. So it really doesn’t matter where you put it. It’s just easier to do it this way and ascetically more pleasing to the human eye. Hope this helps and thanks for watching.
This newbie appreciates your videos.
Should the brown tinting go on the other side of the fly since it’s on a jig hook?
Edge, this is a pretty popular question.
Bugs twist and turn in the current all the time. Nothing really rides parallel to the bottom. Sometimes the trout sees the top, sometimes the bottom. Even when hanging straight down-it will still shift from side to side with the micro currents. The trout won’t mind the which way it comes at them. You can color the other side and you will catch just as many. It is just simply easier to color it this way.
Thanks for watching and hope this helps.
That makes sense-thanks for the follow up.
Do you have a video on dubbing? I have a difficult time dubbing in general. Mine never seems to get tight on the thread resulting in fat / loose bodies. Thanks again for sharing your expertise!
@xam1289 this video will help you:
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Good luck to you.
Hello, I am new to your channel, great videos. I have a question, what is the line on your reel, looks like it works good
Appreciate you subbing, Blackpowder! I use a Airflo Euro nymphing line (braided core). From there….18ft of 18mm Pezon & Michel mono to 4-5ft of 16mm Pezon bi-color sighter. Sempe is very similar and another good option. Thanks for watching.
@@OldDominionTroutBum Thank you, I was watching how it preformed for you
Hey Cory, Can't find any mad rabbit dubbing in yellow in the USA. What are your go to alternatives for rabbit dubbing?
Taylor, get the Troutline Argentinian Hares Ear in yellow from Tactical Fly Fisher. It's made by the same company as Mad Rabbit. It's great stuff.
@@OldDominionTroutBum thanks!
Just ordered all the ingredients from TacticaFlyFisher for this fly as well as all the other flies for which you have the videos. I love your videos. Your attention to the detail is simply just amazing. What flies would you recommend I start making first? I may not be able to get time to make all before my next fishing trip ( West Branch Delaware River in few weeks ). Thanks
Really appreciate the compliment! I would recommend starting your box with Walt's worm. Sizes 18-14. Different weights from 2.3 to 3.3. Colors in Natural and Olive. Copper and silver beads. Some with and some with out orange collars.
Next I would have some simple stupid pheasant tails and natural pheasant tails tied the same way. Sizes 18-16. 2.3-3.3 beads
Then some perdigons size 18-16 sizes 18-16. 2.3-3.3 beads. The best one to start with is my Olive flash (if you can't find the hends 233, use Harline Peacock Krystal flash)
Lastly I would have some Stoneflies, like this for the Delaware).
These flies can get you through a week on the WB and everywhere else as well.
Good luck and Tight Lines to you!
@@OldDominionTroutBum Much appreciated.
Nice work. Any opinion on using a gold bead as well?
Hey Jeff. I am more of a copper bead guy… just has always been a confidence color. But I am sure gold would work. Tie a few both ways and see which one you like. (Or the fish like). Appreciate you watching!
@@OldDominionTroutBum That's the plan... both :)
Thanks again for another excellent video! I tied a few of these up today. I bought the ingredients you posted in the description but didn't see where the yellow floss was used. What am I missing? Thanks Cory!
Appreciate it, Rob. Not sure what you mean by the yellow floss. Do you mean the tail and the legs? That was barred sexi floss in Golden Yellow. Was that it?
@@OldDominionTroutBum ah, yes. Dang, I thought it was a new line item! It's the way my TV minimized the description. Makes sense now. Thanks
Glad you got everything. Good luck with it. It’s a great bug.
What materials would you use for a Black stone fly.
Gregory, I use Black Hare’s ear or Squirrel. Silver bead with a little UV purple collar and purple and black legs. I use the same wire, you can even use silver wire.
How the heck do you get your dubbing on so quickly and evenly?!😂. Mine just spools up alongside the thread, not around it...
Haha. Check out this video, Matt. It may be of some help:
th-cam.com/video/LfpS43ezpvQ/w-d-xo.html
Good luck to you!
What fly tying vice do you recommend?
William, a Renzetti Traveler 2000 series are great ones.
@@OldDominionTroutBum Cory you are awesome, thanks for taking the time to return messages 👍🏻
Cory, Agree with the comment below...”when I grow up I want to be Cory!” Oh wait, I’m already retired. Anyway, appreciate the comment about the larger bead. I guess I’ll have to get into tying to be able to do the bigger beads and stay away from shot. I’ve gotten a few fish on Lively Legs Stones. Not a ton. Are you going to tie a Linda Ronstadt fly to go along with your Stone Pony?😂😂😂 Best, Tony
Haha! And I want to be retired like you, Tony! Shot certainly works, but if you move your weight into your bug, you will just have better contact. You are retired, so now you can have another hobby…Tying! By the way, love how you get the Stone Pony reference!
She had the Stone Ponies and then the Eagles as back ups I believe. Nymph on!
Cory, why don't you put the brown Sharpie on the bend side of the hook? Don't jig hooks ride upside down? Thanks a million. Best, Bill
Get this question a lot, Bill.
Hooks don’t ride perpendicular to the bottom. They hang straight up and down. (Jig hooks at a slight 45 degree angle) Tie your fly on, then hold your tippet with your fly dangling down-that’s how it looks in the water. They twist and turn in the current, just like real bugs do. The trout sees them coming belly first, back first, side first and everything in between. So it really doesn’t matter where you put it. It’s just easier to do it this way and ascetically more pleasing to the human eye. Hope this helps and thanks for watching.
Cory, perpendicular would be straight up and down relative to the bottom. Do you mean they don't ride parallel to the bottom? @@OldDominionTroutBum
@@williamgunn1076 Sorry, my apologies. I meant parallel. Guess it was too early in the morning to answer before my first cup of coffee!
I can dig it. The coffee need, no arguing that! Stay hooked.
@@OldDominionTroutBum
Great tie where is the yellow dubbing available
Thanks Randi. Tactical Fly Fisher carries it.
@@OldDominionTroutBum Cory will you be making a trip to the broadhead anytime this spring
@@randistrunk2116 not sure Randi…so many streams. So little time.
I'll take a dozen lol
Haha! Tight lines, Joe!
I tie something similar ...i use all the same leg material for body Uv coat .works well for me ...eastern serrias ..bombz away 👍
They are good ones for sure...Bombz away! Thanks for watching!
Vise recommendation
You can watch this video here for more info:
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