Getting Started on an older Fanuc OM CNC Mill.

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  • How I start my Fanuc OM based CNC Mill. How to get started or use an older Fanuc OM based mill. I purchased a used CNC mill and have been using it successfully for over a year. For DIY type operation, it's been reliable and capable. Excel VMC mills, in particular, seem to be very reliable, easy to work on and I've been able to source parts. I use Fusion 360 along with custom post-processing to my DNC to make parts. The oil absorbers I use are at: amzn.to/2CGWHbu

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  • @jacobbowling6247
    @jacobbowling6247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Zebra skimmer works great. Easy maintenance.

  • @danbecker8966
    @danbecker8966 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I sometimes add / (block delete) in front of M08:
    /M08
    Then you can turn block delete on when you don't want your program to control coolant.
    I usually just use Notepad, and Search/Replace M08 with /M08.

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats a great idea. Thank you!

    • @pco1984
      @pco1984 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try Notepad++. You can set the "style" to pitch black so you don't look at a white screen constantly. I made a g-code config so most commands have their own color code for ease of use. I can send you the settings file if you like?

  • @cobraframebuilding
    @cobraframebuilding 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've been really enjoying Houghton HoCut 795MD. I don't have an RO or a skimmer yet, but I do have a fish tank aerator bubbler thing submerged in the sump and that keeps the coolant kinda agitated and aerated.

  • @chrisyboy666
    @chrisyboy666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fanuc internals are bomb proof yeah you might need to change the screen or keys 🎹 but that’s it run for 20 years easy that’s running hard 24/7

  • @jsihavealotofplaylists
    @jsihavealotofplaylists 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much. It is as you say.

  • @rokbottom8121
    @rokbottom8121 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excel..ent vid, your vids have really helped me get my 810 up and running.
    Having recently invested in a Tschorn 3D probe I felt it a backward step to then do calculations for working out my offsets.
    below is a macro prog I knocked up for locating a corner just as you described.
    simply call it from memory and move first axis ( in this case its X ) to required position by HANDLE mode then switch to AUTO and press Cycle start. The code will run to prog stop at which point you switch back to HANDLE and position the 2nd ( Y ) and 3rd ( Z ) axis switching back to AUTO running the Code up to next prog stop each time.
    Start program from the N1, N2...… Line depending on which WCP your wanting to set.
    Also did a similar macro for center finding if anyone is interested.
    @018%
    :9900(EDGE-FINDING-PROBE-MACRO)
    N1(G54-WPC)
    N12(PROBE-X-POSITION)
    G90G10L2P1X#5021
    M00
    N13(PROBE-Y-POSITION)
    G90G10L2P1Y#5022
    M00
    N14(PROBE-Z-POSITION-INCLUCEDS-TSCHORN-3D-LENGTH)
    G90G10L2P1Z[#5023-179.6]
    M00
    N15
    N2(G55-WPC)
    N22(PROBE-X-POSITION)
    G90G10L2P2X#5021
    M00
    N23(PROBE-Y-POSITION)
    G90G10L2P2Y#5022
    M00
    N24(PROBE-Z-POSITION-INCLUCEDS-TSCHORN-3D-LENGTH)
    G90G10L2P2Z[#5023-179.6]
    M00
    N25
    N3(G56-WPC)
    N32(PROBE-X-POSITION)
    G90G10L2P3X#5021
    M00
    N33(PROBE-Y-POSITION)
    G90G10L2P3Y#5022
    M00
    N34(PROBE-Z-POSITION-INCLUCEDS-TSCHORN-3D-LENGTH)
    G90G10L2P3Z[#5023-179.6]
    M00
    M30
    %
    179.6 is the gauge length of the 3D Probe.
    P.S. please don't be to hard on my writing style. 18 month ago I had never used G code and had no idea how it worked, now I own 3 CNC's and just have to keep learning.

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice! I have a newer fanuc that has operator message which makes it easier to come back too running macros with manual input. I wish the older OM had it.

  • @caniblesavages
    @caniblesavages 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m glad I’m not the only one that writes important thing on the face of my machines lol

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I rarely have seen others do it but I have done that for years. Can't loose or forget it if it's right in front of you.

    • @jacobbowling6247
      @jacobbowling6247 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I keep a China marker right on top of the control.

  • @nmihelich
    @nmihelich 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought a skimpy oil skimmer and just leave it run all the time. Also the Blasser swisslube synergy 735 has been working very well in my mill.

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's great to hear. I'm about to switch.

  • @terrymoorecnc2500
    @terrymoorecnc2500 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If your machine is on the home switch on those 0M controls you should be able to select Zero return and hit the Minus button and the slide will move off and home automatically. I would write a macro and assign it to the M6 command so you don't have to use program space to do all the housekeeping involved in a tool change. This machine uses P0737 G30 for the tool change height. de WA1AIM

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, for home I just hit each axis with the + or - to auto home. For me, I just added the tool change macro into my post process. I'm always drip-feeding from the DNC so space isn't an issue. The machine does have a macro saved I did for any setup work that does the tool offset on a change. I set it up for M66.

    • @joels7605
      @joels7605 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a mill with a Fanuc 0md control. I tried your tip to walk off the home switches, because it would have been very handy, but unfortunately it doesn't work for me. I guess I have the poverty model mill that doesn't have this feature. Dangit.

  • @hasanabasi420
    @hasanabasi420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello, thank you for the educational videos

  • @tristensoutdoors8183
    @tristensoutdoors8183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use anderson fancu cnc every day quite simple once you figure them out

  • @derekhagar6166
    @derekhagar6166 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Shane, I have a Excel 510 with Fanuc 0-M control, it sat for a couple of years and lost its parameters. I got in touch with Kiwa and the sent me the parameter sheet for my machine but it was missing the 01-380 parameters, also on the diagnostic parameters at 300-549, the paper work they sent me shows its suppose to be 00020000 but when I put that in its instantly puts a 1 in place of the 2.
    I have been able to zero return the machine, but haven't had any success on tool changes and spindle start. I feel I may be missing some parameters. any help would be great.
    also my tool changer is a side mount
    Thanks
    Derek

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      On tool change do you know if it had a 9001 program macro? Most of the 510's did. Most map to M66 for tool change. Otherwise you have to manually orient the spindle and Z in post.

    • @derekhagar6166
      @derekhagar6166 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShaneBurrell1 my parameters stop at 8399 I do not have the 1800 parameters either

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      can you email me what your params are right now? My email is easy to locate.

    • @derekhagar6166
      @derekhagar6166 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShaneBurrell1 I must not be looking in the right spots. Lol. I can’t find it.

    • @derekhagar6166
      @derekhagar6166 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I found it, I just sent you an email. Thanks Shane

  • @ScottandTera
    @ScottandTera 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great video , a bit above my head but very good

  • @user-bz9xt1zo3p
    @user-bz9xt1zo3p ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where did you get new screen from?

  • @luismalol7930
    @luismalol7930 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hello , I need your help with Fanuc 6m for tool offset and work offset

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it a 6mb?

    • @luismalol7930
      @luismalol7930 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShaneBurrell1 my control is fanuc system 6m year 1980 please send me an email maquinados@industriassim.com.mx

  • @markbradfield219
    @markbradfield219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm getting a lot better on this OM control, but stuck on figuring out how to do cutter compensation with it?

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Which option does you OM have?

    • @markbradfield219
      @markbradfield219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShaneBurrell1 Option? I am not sure, it didn't come with an original manual, I know the tool offsets only have the z column and no place to put tool diameter.

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markbradfield219 The OM has a few different cutter compensation options. Most only have the H but those can normally be used as well for cutter comp if your tool count is low and you have the portions avail.

    • @markbradfield219
      @markbradfield219 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShaneBurrell1 OK, thanks, I gave up trying to get it going today and went back to programming the actual cutter path! I'll figure it out eventually! Lol

  • @staticdynamicsesd9038
    @staticdynamicsesd9038 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shane, great videos!
    I just purchased a used Excel 510 a few weeka ago and am not sure how to do a simple thing like "Load the tools into the Automatic Tool Changer" (ATC). I have loaded a few tools into my ATC-18 by simply "snapping them into the ATC, but I am not sure that is the correct way to install tools. When I give the command to get tool 1 ("T1 M6"), it goes to tool 11. You mentioned that the tools get put back into whatever slot is available, so could it be that the previous owner of the mill put tool #1 into slot 1 but the machine ended up placing it into slot 11 "because it was available"? I have looked for a video or instructions about "How to Load an "Automatic Tool Changer" but have not found one yet. Is the "right way" to load the tools into the spindle and have the spindle move it into the ATC? If so, how should it be done?

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! The best way to load the machine is to use the tool change command and do the tool change in the spindle. Pulling pots (unless the pots are labeled correctly) doesn't work normally because the tool number sticks with the pots and has nothing to do with the slot number in carousel. Really the only time I manually snap the pots in or out is to replace a broken tool. Even then I normally do that from the spindle to set tool height at the same time. The alternate way, which big job shops use, is to label slots on carousel and label pots with tool number. They they will actually go into the machine params as they manually load pots into slots and change the param table for pot to slot assignment. I have several videos on the ATC and on one of them I show the param change method. You will need to do this as well if you ever get your carousel out of index. I believe it would have been the carousel air cylinder repair video I did.

  • @ipiubelli
    @ipiubelli 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    fanuc series O-M I have problem . Alarm 409 ?

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ipiubelli I would need a lot more info to help. 409 is normally a servo error.

    • @ipiubelli
      @ipiubelli 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShaneBurrell1 normale 409 and the servo error is 56

    • @gsonperformance4506
      @gsonperformance4506 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any update on your 409 fix?

  • @sc371
    @sc371 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. I have a similar Excel machine that also has the leaking oil cylinder on the drawbar pneumatic cylinder. Do you happen to have the link for the one you used as a replacement? Thanks

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It should be a SMC. Grab the model number off the cylinder and SMC (orange coast pneumatics) will be able to cross reference it with current product. All my cylinders they cross referenced and matched as a direct replacement.

  • @ericburns8697
    @ericburns8697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video shane, I have an older EMCO PC Turn 155 Lathe that runs on WinNC Fanuc 21 controls, what DNC are you using and how is that setup? I may want to try and connect one on my EMCO

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm using a titan DNS. It just requires matching the baud rate and comm settings.

    • @ericburns8697
      @ericburns8697 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShaneBurrell1 Thanks, ill let you know how it goes. Where is that Excel mill from btw? Germany?

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine was made in Japan. Also BT40 tooling.

  • @dannyesparza9110
    @dannyesparza9110 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello I saw your video on that titandnc adapter and I got it but unfortunately I have no manual for my machine I have no tape or remote mode on my machine I have a 1998 Mori seiki fm-1 with a MSC-521 controller which is I believe a fanuc 21m series and I’m having a hard time trying to drip feed Just wondering if you have a tip for me to get it to drip feed .
    Thank you

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Danny Esparza If you have found a rs-232 port check you opr panel screen. There are a few other ways but normally if no rmt or tape they hide it on opr panel. If it’s not there you can find Fanuc 21 manual and set dnc mode from a param.

  • @MrBasharmdabbour
    @MrBasharmdabbour 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can I git your help with my machine or can you direct me to where I can I get help thank you much

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any CNC tech in your area should be able to help. If you have a specific question I might be able to answer it.

  • @IRTermite
    @IRTermite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Where did you find the box for translating/converting the USB input to the RS232 port? What is that box called?

    • @IRTermite
      @IRTermite 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe I found it... "TITAN DNC USB Reader for CNC Machines" ?

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thats it. There are several vendors that sell these.

  • @devinwiles157
    @devinwiles157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey I can’t seem to get my okk mcv 410 to tool change. I followed your procedure and copied your tool change program but it just alarms out with cycle can’t start

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      My machine was built by excel. Yours is likely vastly different than mine especially in the tool change. Do you have the manual? Does it have any 9000 programs?

    • @devinwiles157
      @devinwiles157 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShaneBurrell1 no it doesn’t have any 9000 programs

  • @bradybrother100
    @bradybrother100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great and Useful video! Do you know what format the GCODE is that the FANUC reads and what profile to use in Fusion 360 to export the cut paths correctly?
    Thanks,
    Brady

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The standard fanuc post worked on my machine other than the tool change which is a simple edit of the post. I needed to position the Z before the M tool change in the post code.

    • @bradybrother100
      @bradybrother100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShaneBurrell1 Ok thanks! I'm using a Makino machine from the 90s with what seems to be the same Fanuc system as yours. We are using dnc4U on the computer to send the GCODE over to the machine. Just to clarify the Post in Fusion you are using is as follows, Vendor:Fanuc, Description:FANUC. Is that correct?
      Thanks again,
      Brady

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is correct.

    • @bradybrother100
      @bradybrother100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShaneBurrell1 Cool! One last question. Is there a way to set a custom home position instead of just the zeroed out position?

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bradybrother100 My machine zero is not adjustable.

  • @vrdengineering5204
    @vrdengineering5204 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does that 232 usb dnc adapter work fast enough for HSM programs?

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Generally, yes. It generally comes up as a limitation on the control side not having the higher baud options.

    • @vrdengineering5204
      @vrdengineering5204 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ShaneBurrell1 I am looking at a 18m machine with a highest baud rate of 19,200. Is that fast enough?

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Vince Dahl I do 3D hsm at that speed with the fanuc. A lot depends on the controller. If you want to test prior to buying a dnc there is software on the internet you could use to act as a dnc.

  • @hasanabasi420
    @hasanabasi420 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to view the program line in dnc mode

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  ปีที่แล้ว

      You have to look at it on the DNC or file editor.

  • @shaunybonny688
    @shaunybonny688 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    whats that box on the side that you're plugging your usb drive into?

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DNC Usb / Serial

    • @shaunybonny688
      @shaunybonny688 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      DNC? Is that something you added?

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@shaunybonny688 It is a add on.

  • @user-ws6bm2ri1d
    @user-ws6bm2ri1d 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi. Maybe someone could help me. I need Fanuc Ladder II program but cant find that. Maybe someone could share if you have it? Thank you.

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You will need to get that from a Fanuc tech.

    • @user-ws6bm2ri1d
      @user-ws6bm2ri1d 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for answer. Already done. Still nothing . One more question. I have Leadwell TDC-510 - Fanuc O-M RoboDrill Tool Change CNC milling machine. And seems that part of code is missing cause tool change is not working. I need tool change macros I suppose. Maybe you have one and could share please? Best is to have the same, but in worst case I could use other macros as basic and write new one

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If your machine is like mine it needs to be oriented prior to the tool change. You can do this in a macro on in your post processor.

    • @user-ws6bm2ri1d
      @user-ws6bm2ri1d 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ShaneBurrell1 yes, I understand about macros and tried to write it manually but failed cause I have no idea how it should be written right. Some samples what I found are totally wrong in my case. Looks like from model to model there were used very different codes. As I had no backup and have no manuals left for this machine I have no idea how it should be. Without any sample it is very tricky business. Of cource trying different options will work after some time but it will take long time...

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-ws6bm2ri1d Leadwell seems to still be in business. Have you tried contacting them? Also if that's you asking in the CNC forums, that also a good place to happen along someone that has the same machine with macros. www.leadwell.com.tw

  • @mehmetaladag
    @mehmetaladag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does Fanuc O-M support the DNC mode? Because the ROM memory is too low that I cannot upload G-Code above 16 kb.

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If equipped yes.

    • @mehmetaladag
      @mehmetaladag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShaneBurrell1 I sent you an e-mail. Can you check?

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I did receive your email and posting response here so it may help others.
      I have several videos on it. I'll post those in the comments at youtube as it may help others. If you have a tape mode and a working DB9 or DB25 serial interface a DNC will work. If not, you would have to likely add tape mode to the machine (if possible).
      Few Videos on the DNC operation
      th-cam.com/video/qcROV7DfSwE/w-d-xo.html
      th-cam.com/video/mM_FI3-21go/w-d-xo.html
      th-cam.com/video/xJu9myVUX80/w-d-xo.html
      Full CNC Playlist
      th-cam.com/play/PLzUuu4dRrPGRva8JZ12rJn6kXnsb5cffQ.html

    • @mehmetaladag
      @mehmetaladag 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ShaneBurrell1 Thank you.

  • @ServoBotCNCSolutions
    @ServoBotCNCSolutions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello
    Can I get some help with my fanuc 0m

  • @toranacar
    @toranacar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes the Parameters are very important. I have a Fanuc OM as well and the parameters were erased. I have re entered the Parameters and Diagnostic numbers and the machine is working but the ATC does not. I'm wondering if you can send me a copy of the Ladder diagram? I'm willing to pay for them for your time. I do have a service book with most of the ladder diagrams but there are a few pages missing, i suspect some of the ATC ladder diagrams are missing.

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To program the ladder you would likely need the fanuc ladder program.

  • @davidjansen412
    @davidjansen412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @UCE8e-YGXqHRrKl0ejJSjwGg I would love to know which post processor you are using in Fusion for the Fanuc OM control. Is it the generic Fanuc post processor? Have you tweaked it at all? I am having trouble with the post processors Fusion provides.

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I added tool change to the stock Fanuc post processor.

    • @joels7605
      @joels7605 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShaneBurrell1 Shane you beautiful bastard, can you post that? I'd love to have a copy of a working post processor. Thanks.

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joels7605 Autodesk doesn't allow posting of there posts but it's pretty trivial to edit the existing Fanuc post. Just open with your favorite editor and look for tool change. It's pretty simple to add the command steps for your particular machine.

    • @joels7605
      @joels7605 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShaneBurrell1 I'll have a look. Thanks.

  • @toranacar
    @toranacar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can i go in MDI and punch in M6 T4 ?

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes you can.

    • @toranacar
      @toranacar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShaneBurrell1 thanks Shane. You've been very generous with your help.
      This is probably a bit of a dumb question but, I just recently loaded a simple command from my pc to my Leadeell mill. M3 just as a coms test.
      Question is how do I pull up that program or command on my machine?

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@toranacar You will need to select / open the program in edit and run in auto once selected.

    • @toranacar
      @toranacar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ShaneBurrell1 thanks Shane.
      I'll have to back up a little because the program doesn't seem to be loading onto my cnc.
      So it's a Fanuc OM.
      I thinknfirst I need to ask what comms cable you're using, Null modem or full handshake?
      I thinkni need to look at Baud rate on the CNC ?
      Just wondering what else I need to look at to load programs.
      I can't even Punch a peogram to PC.
      I do have LSK flashing.

    • @ShaneBurrell1
      @ShaneBurrell1  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@toranacar You will need a cable that has RTS/CTS .