EXPLAINED Sleep/protection mode Parkside Performance PDSSAP 20 B2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.พ. 2022
- Today we're taking a quick look into the sleep feature programmed into the Parkside Performance PDSSAP 20 B2 impact BLDC motor firmware (which is also present in other Performance line tools). After putting in a fresh battery, or after 40s of motor stoppage, the tool goes into a protected sleep mode, where minor trigger depression will not activate the tool. Only a 75% or deeper trigger press wakes the tool up again. I postulate that this is a feature meant to stop spurious running, like in a tool bag or you car trunk, if something presses down lightly on the trigger. This issue occurs independently of which battery is used (PAPS 204, PAPS 208, PAP 20 A1/B2), and confirms my idea of it being a motor firmware issue and not battery related. Although sometimes a nuisance, one quickly learns to deal with this quirk of programming, as when awake, the trigger response is instantaneous.
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Excelente, thanks
The trigger itself has this inbuild safety where there are two gaps in the lower contact plate. Bridge those two (shortcut) to 'solve' this intended feature.
I actually like this, it saves battery.
Maybe there is few diferent firmware versions because I bought this tool few weeks ago and it never goes to sleep mode as you are showing. It only turns off torque setting indicator after about 40s and if you push the trigger even small amount it turns on and rotates slowly on the first time of push. The same after instaling battery.
Production date of my tool is 2021-08
IAN 364886_2101 - TF
S/N 038746
Maybe this helps to fugure out is this a malfunction of firmware bug
th-cam.com/video/oGxKaA1UA4E/w-d-xo.html short video
It's the same behavior, the depth of the trigger pull may vary a bit due to tolerance, but after 40s idle, lights out, torque button does nothing, you have to pull the trigger, and it takes 3/4s from trigger pull to motor turning, but now with the awoken tool even a short trigger pull results in immediate movement. Thanks for the reply+information!
mine is 2021-08 as well and it reacts even to light press, 1mm push on the trigger turns it on
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Sad, it was already annoying on the previous tools that they don't respond after sitting for a short while but it seems to have gotten even worse.. They're such amazing tools for the price, if only this stupid sleep timer thing could be deactivated or set to half an hour before sleep or something. I can't imagine the circuit board indeling to use that much energy 🙃 Whenever there's a hack I'm applying it to all my tools.
I agree, just some programmer who never used the tools thinking of 'features' to add.
@@GadgetEngineering haha, that must be the reason this "feature" is there 😆
The PDSSAP 20 B3 doesnt have this "feature" anymore. See th-cam.com/video/Tsi_o7ZhN-Q/w-d-xo.html for comparison.
What other tools do you own, that have this kind of unresponsivenes?
I get it when you put a new battery in for this protection to be activated, but i don't get it why they choose such a small timeframe for it to be activated again, 40 seconds is to quick they could've choose 10 minutes. Imagine having to use this tool to build something and you need it to screw 200 screws every time you put it down to take or do something it will go in sleep mode that will be very annoying to get used to. And even if you get used to it imagine then switching to a tool that doesn't have this protection you will have screws flying all over the place because you will get used to pulling the trigger all the way.
I agree!
Thanks for explaining. Yesterday my brother borowed my new b2 hammerdrillmachine, he tought it was broke.. i had to explain it likes to sleep! Goddamnit what diyer wants his tool to fall asleel on the job😭😭. Will there be any hack for this?
Hard to say, the programming is in the BLDC firmware on the PCB, so no changing anything there, I'm investigating an easy 2-wire hack of the trigger that might work, stay tuned!
@@GadgetEngineering try a 100nF capacitor between the + wire and control wire.
Heard that should do the trick
y want to dizabble sleep mode but i dont now how ???
Check out my newest video "Insomnia Hack" :)
Dzis przyszły mi 2. Oba mają to samo.
I thinks mine was broken
Hello, good or no ?
Good!
This is not a function, this is a bug for me.
And another thing I saw in 2 separate videos, one being this one th-cam.com/video/xXBqofvmaWI/w-d-xo.html looks like it goes in some over current protection mode event with the new 8Ah battery.
I've only has it happen when running slow, meaning the hammer doesn't have enough speed to skip over the anvil, and stalls the rotor. If you're running fast enough it will actually 'impact' and you won't lock the rotor and cause the overcurrent condition. With a bit of wear the hammer will slip easier and this will be a less common occurrence :)
@@GadgetEngineering I watched some more videos with this problem and i think is a bad/cold solder joint issue inside the controller board, because even at high speed it will still stop and i think is because at high speed it vibrates so much that some components don't make good contact on the pcb. The moment you press the plastic in the speed/torque selector area it will work again, and in some cases it will keep rotating even if you don't press the trigger.
@@BinaryOptionRomaniaBOR1 Hello I have this problem with the tool, at first it stopped from time to time, but now it refuses to start. The light turns on when the trigger is pressed, but nothing happens. Can you confirm if this was the fix? I changed the anvil and I cannot send it to claim warranty as it's clearly visible that the tool has been opened and the screws touched... Thanks
but its not an issuse
Parkside is ok