Thanks everyone who sent in examples! Let us know in the comments if you have a Saturn return story to share. Timestamps below: 00:00:00 Introduction 00:01:57 Review of basic principles 00:26:44 First house examples 00:42:18 First/Twelfth house examples 01:05:08 Second house examples 01:25:43 Third house examples 01:36:18 Fourth house examples 02:07:30 Fifth house examples 02:11:48 Sixth house examples 02:25:55 Seventh house examples 02:35:37 Eighth house examples 02:43:56 Ninth house examples 02:51:20 Tenth house examples 02:55:18 Eleventh house examples 03:03:55 More twelfth house examples 03:16:40 Saturn in Aquarius coming up 03:25:57 Further resources for study 03:28:44 Conclusion
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Nice! Super lucky to have my 25° Saturn in third house Capricorn. Just about to move out of my SISTERS house (after a little over a year)... with my first CAR.
Hi! Jackie Broe, here - the 12th house sobriety/podcast Saturn return. I loved hearing your insights on my return this episode, thanks for sharing! I’m very intrigued over the 7 year hard aspect insight, especially. I should also say, that while I didn’t go to rehab, I most definitely self-isolated over the last 3 years spending more time with myself than ever before. Had I not isolated, I’m not sure if I would have stayed sober... I started therapy, meditation, journaling/writing, and dove deep into a spiritual practice. It was during this time that I also started diving deeper into astrology, after randomly finding “Saturn return” on the internet... it helped to give myself compassion through what was a very difficult time. I haven’t been able to stop studying astrology since! Or talking about sobriety for that matter ☺️
MY SECOND SATURN RETURN IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AT 29 DEGREES IN 11TH HOUSE as I am a pisces rising. I have released all toxic friendships,, I have put priorities into having surrounding myself with like minded like hearted people, high vibrational experiences, unconditional love, and sacred connections. Also this year i have put focus into my health and my dream career. Finally ruling out all ideas that do not align with my heart's desire and ultimate dharma. Also, this past Solar return conjuncted my midheaven at 24 degrees sag. So what a world wind this past year and last year has been for me. thanks and namaste.
May be this is not the best place for this comment under this podcast but as a 20 year long self learned astrology enthusiast I got to LOVE practical usage of astrology and would like to highlight how much Leisa and Chris have contributed to my understanding recently through their podcasts (whenever they talk about electional astrology) , I'd like to give a shout out to Patrick Watson as well... I know there are many many astrologers out there of the similar sort and it's impossible to name them all but you're giving it a good name through your serious/rigorous work.... Many thanks all...
I am finally ending my 2nd at 24 degrees Capricorn. This return was so much harder then my first, lost work and a job due to covid, my son had a psychotic break and 4 months of tragedy, alcoholism and living homeless until he agreed to help after 4 months. Depression, I had a knee replacement, plus a rare tooth infection that landed me in the hospital for 4 days to stop going into sepsis and killing me. A loss of close family connection that were tested. So many things at once with the Saturn/Pluto connection happening on top of my Natal Saturn. I think that was the kicker. Sorry for your losses. 😢❤️ I feel less stress lately and am feeling less pressured. I hope things get less painful for you soon too.
I have a Capricorn stelium; Saturn, Uranus and Neptune - 1990 baby! 🙋🏾♀️ These past three years have been the most profound for me. I’m leaving my Saturn return as a new refined person
Same! Same! Refined like a diamond created in pressure and then cut ✂️ to perfection lol 😆 I have a huge 6th house personal planet cancer stellium. Aquarius rising, and yeah, it's been too real jet wonderful.
@@EVschoice10 I think the best part was during the summer eclipses. I actually got some divine messages from the universe. When Jupiter went into retrograde
I have this return in the 7th house. Saturn return happened for me in DEC 14th 2019. And you filmed this that day a year later!! WOW!! right after a traumatic separation to then be divorce.
.... And a huge healing vacation road trip and after living out of province/state away from family for 4 years. right before the return 2 weeks before the return I started a channel, the pandemic was in the beginning stages and My life changed even more 3 months later losing my job i went to school for, and again 8 months later when I realized my channel was sustainable to live off of. Saturn return is such a huge squeeze.
Thanks so much for this Chris & Leisa. I am the first person you mentioned as a 3rd house example. The one who got divorced, sold all my belongings, lived amongst car parts, built a custom van to live in, etc etc. I really appreciate ya'll sharing my story. The 3rd house charts did get mixed up in the video, but what's amazing about it is that the other Scorpio rising that you talked about is someone I know! Not only someone I know, but someone I have been working with on a Saturn Return project for the past couple years. What a pleasant surprise. I am commenting from my new youtube channel if anyone is interested. Love you both, thanks again!
Astro power couple! Always a good show with this duo. Thank you for all the effort you put into this podcast, it doesn’t go unnoticed! I have a major Stellium in Capricorn with Saturn, Sun, Venus, Uranus, and Neptune in Whole Sign 7th house. I’m approaching my 32nd birthday so rounding out my extremely long and intense Saturn return. My most trying experiences revolved around interpersonal relationships but also around identity/shadow (oh yeah, my ASC is in Cancer so those eclipses were something 😹). 2020 was the crescendo of the sh!t storm ☔️
I was chuckling when you said a Saturn return in domicile is more constructive - my first Saturn return in Libra, I got divorced from my ex who was unfaithful, graduated from school, moved to a new place with a new career from my new education. It was definitely an extremely painful and diffucult time in my life, but from where I am now everything that went on those years were for my betterment. I wouldn’t have had it any other way.
I have Saturn in Aquarius the 7th (night chart, square Pluto, opposing sun and mercury, and am i recently entered an Aquarius ruled period based on zodiacal releasing) The first ingress of Saturn into Aquarius was easily one of the most difficult things I’ve experienced in my life. I caught a highly contagious and undiagnosable skin rash (WTF) which not only scarred my entire body, but also spread to my romantic partner. We then proceeded to have the worst breakup I’ve experienced thus far. Once that ended, I took a vow to be single... which seemed impossible (solid relationship opportunities were coming up left and right but I needed more time). The day Saturn reentered Aquarius, I went on a first date with someone new (and first date since my last relationship). Astrology is so literal sometimes. I’m glad that the rest of this Saturn return will not be as difficult as the first part of Saturn in Aquarius. I am definitely taking detailed notes on the rest of the events for the next few years and I hope my story gets featured in your next Saturn return video lol.
I have Saturn conjunct Sun in the twelfth house. To me its is a quite challenging aspect. At my first Saturn return I got a terrible burnout, regained memories of early childhood trauma, and lost my health, job, marriage and home all at once. It took me over 7 years to recover from all that! I started working with horses as a means of therapy, but I have been fond of horses as long as I remember! I surely hope my next saturn return isn't going to be anything like that, because it was like going through hell and back.
HI guys, thanks for this informative video. I have Saturn in my first house at 23 degrees Capricorn (which seemed to be the degree to be this year.. ) .. this was my second Saturn return.. it was a doozy.. lots of hard HARD work on myself. I have basically changed who I am and what I think.. and pretty much don't care what others think of me anymore.. not in a bad way, but in a way that doesn't change how I feel. I'm more in touch with my basic self. But yeah, HARD WORK! I lost my dad on Nov. 1st, so my outside world has changed too. One thing I am grateful for is that Jupiter is leaving too.. I've had enough of "expanding" my first house, thank you very much!! Cheers, Denise
I am a Capricorn rising with Saturn at 24 degrees and Neptune and Uranus on my ASC. The past couple of years have been heavy, to say the least! But I am finally getting a grip on who I am which has helped me have the confidence to create the career that I have always wanted. Thank you Chris and Lisa for creating this video, it's comforting to know that I am not the only one who has gone through this type of transformation.
I was born in 89, have the Capricorn stellium all in the 7th house. Cancer rising. I've been confused because my Saturn return was pretty quiet on the relationship/partnership front...I suppose I did more inner work concerning those themes but not much physically manifested. However, both of my parents passed away, and the themes of the 8th house were MUCH more prevalent. I didn't know the two houses were connected in that way, this podcast helped! So interesting, thank you.
We'll probably do a Saturn return in Aquarius retrospective early next year. Check the podcast website for an early audio only episode about how to interpret the Saturn return though, as you may find that useful.
First off, thank you for all of the content, I have learned so much from this podcast! I am a 2 degree Leo ascendant with Sun in Capricorn at 29degrees, Saturn at 27 degrees, NN at 28, Neptune at 14, Uranus at 10, and Mercury at 6. Subordination, Small pets, Work, Partnerships, money, friendship and sense of self have been emphasized in the past 2.5 years. Delay and restriction have been heavy, and a lot of change. Even more so this past year being 29 in a 6th house profection year. Hoping I’ll have more clarity once it clears these last degrees for me! 😐
Neptune, Uranus, Mars, Moon, Saturn, and Venus in Cap. 6th + 7th. Lots of trial and error, destruction and perseverance in my work, making a slow and steady transition from working for others to working for myself and going from dating primarily men to primarily women. Also beat several hereditary addictions and mental health issues. Thanks for this great conversation.
I almost thought the 10th house example was mine because I submitted my chart and story but it wasn’t lol someone out there has a super similar chart to mine !
This was such a great way to make sense of/narrativize my own SR experience, even though I am Saturn in the first degree of Scorpio. Thank you! It was illuminating thinking about transits that aren’t directly tied into the SR but in close succession-like Pluto at 28 Libra conjoining with transiting Saturn before my actual Saturn hit (breakup). Anyway, this was probably instructive for all of us!
My Saturn return was cake compared to this year. I have the Saturn, Jupiter, Pluto mess opposing my ascendant and squaring my natal pluto and Saturn. Lost my job and went through a divorce this year. My Saturn return was more finding my now ex-wife and started not bouncing between jobs, held two jobs for over 4 years since then, and kicked my former best friend of 17 years to the curb because of his toxicity. I'll take a Saturn return any day!
I had my Saturn return in cappy (2nd house) back in April 2018 the biggest change to my life yet and then retrograde dec 2018. I have learned a lot about my self and I wasn't on the best life path now I feel more on course. It did change and make me re think how i make money and moving forward coming back to something I studied 13 years ago
Very interesting episode which has triggered many thoughts since I caught up after the Year Ahead episode. I don't usually get the opportunity to sit down and watch so rely completely on a verbal description of the placements and time of the nativity/event to visualise the chart under discussion. (Public holidays in the darkest days, a good internet connection and the necessity of social distancing during the big Christian fest are an unexpected blessing!) I love how this time in history is allowing astrologers to gather data from such a wide range of sources, and to make public comparison of the nativities of 'ordinary' people, not just celebrities and Royals. One of my thoughts since listening has been about the position of Saturn in relation to the angles for angular Saturn returns. Also - because this is still a new concept for me, having learnt most of what I know before Project Hindsight and, ironically, taken a 15 year break from astrology just as critically important (re)discoveries were being made - the role of sect in the Saturn cycle. So, now . . . I'm curious! Do you think the Saturn cycle in a day chart indicates the potential for a lifetime in which material (ie tangible or external) realisations of the native placement are indicated? And, when Saturn is angular, the effort to realise this potential will be maximised? I've already written more than most, so I won't labour the point about the inverse being the case in a night chart (ie. frustration rather than realisation). Lastly, I may have missed it, but a keyword kept surfacing as I was listening but I don't think I heard it uttered. Responsibility. The Saturn cycle reveals to us that part of life for which the native must accept responsibility - whether they like it or not! Responsibility is lonely; nobody else can take it, and if not accepted the consequences can be very harsh. In Christian mythology - as I recall - Saturn became linked to Satan, a much maligned [sic] angel. With a benign but all powerful God, how could responsibility fall to any individual in any case? My reasoning at a psychological level is that taking responsibility for the Saturn placement in our nativity requires a kind of humility that most of us find painful. Being the last planet visible to the naked eye, it marks the boundary between who we think we are and who our society permits us to be. Great thanks, as ever, for giving this data gathering and sharing task your good attention, Chris, and Leisa (forgive any bad spelling; it's a weakness of Mercury in Pisces!). Happy New 200 Years everybody :D
It would have been more interesting if Chris could include more examples about the listeners and less about the celebrities. Since there was plenty opportunities for them to talk about celebrity charts before, this episode could have been more listeners focused.
I was born about four days after the 10th house chart example as a Taurus rising with the MC in the 9th. I found a lot of what the 9th and 10th house examples experienced resonated a lot with me. A lot happened during my Saturn return, but the peak of it brought the final stages of a career change, and I now work in an academic library. There was an abundance of other options, though, which will be interesting given the Saturn return coincided with a foreshadowing period in Capricorn in my zodiacal releasing. A lot was happening at once astrologically! Interestingly, one of the interests I dove deeper into (besides fiction writing, blogging, and Buddhism) was astrology. I didn't get into it until near the end, almost exactly when Mars went retrograde in my 12th house squaring the Cap stellium. I'm surprised that what I appreciated most about this episode, though, was seeing how Uranus and Neptune played out for others. I feel they're often neglected because they're "generational" planets, but there were plenty of examples here of how their co-presence affected people in very personal ways. It's nice to know I share that with others. Thanks for a great episode!
All this info is great! Began visiting the resources and I am diving in and loving all of it. Thank you so much for sharing these resources for us newbies to astrology to learn more about ourselves! I came upon you by accident. The only aspect you didn't cover is the possible impact for those of us who have Saturn retrogades. Thank you for all the work you do!
Just had my second Saturn return at 17 degrees Capricorn on the second house. Lost my source of income but also got an inheritance having Cancer on the 8th house. I feel that the timing of everything was perfect. 🙏🪐
I was born with Saturn (retrograde and out of sect) at 0 Capricorn so I get to enjoy the full three years and Capricorn rules the sixth...this second round has been the most brutal cycle ever and I'm still not sure I will survive it.
My 2nd SR has been at 24 degrees in Capricorn in the first house. Major Challenges to multiple area’s of my life. One of the most difficult with the transforming with Pluto conjunction to Saturn this year. I am burned out physically.
My Saturn’s return story is wild i think, when consider Uranus and Neptune in there, in the end it was very meaningful event of my life. Thank you Saturn.
Going through my Pisces saturn return in the 7th house right now which starts in a Cap profection year ends end on the pisces profection year, it's definitely going to be (and already is so far) a transformative time!
Saturn does not like short cuts and people trying to pull a fast one. If we are trying to do that it most definitely would slow us down and ask us to do the hard work needed for the reward we want. I think it is a fair deal. I have been having it in 8th house opposing my moon and ascendant ruler.
I just realized my mom had me while she was going through her 1st Saturn return. Her placenta broke on the 6th month and I was born. I had to be incubated for at least half a year and had to have a surgery as well. Her Saturn is in Pisces.
Saturn just entered my whole 8th house in Aquarius and my bike got stolen last night. It’s scary to know that the next 2.5 years will have such themes.
I have an example of Saturn transiting out of the 12th and returning to my Asc. I have an Aquarius Asc. At 3° and Saturn in Scorpio in the 10th WSH along with a stellium (venus, Pluto, moon). Day chart, with a sun/mercury conjunction in the 12th, sextile Saturn. The first time Saturn came to my Asc. was in ‘91/‘92. Saturn was pendulating over on my asc. Degree forward then retrograding backward, like it is now. During those years, I was 7 and 8 years old. I broke my nose, badly! I also cut my lip open in a nasty fall, then my dentist pulled two molars she shouldn’t have. it shifted my teeth to one side, even braces didn’t fix it fully. All in that short span of time, my face was not mine, it was broken. Saturn represented the demolishing of bone, cartilage and facial structures. The face that you show to the world, to the public. I feared that everyone saw something I didn’t want them to see, something two-faced, ‘off’ that made them uneasy. I have struggled with low self-image and looked at myself as ‘disfigured’ ever since. Trapped in some other face. The one I don’t want others to see, or that when people looked at me, they just saw the broken nose, crooked lip and shifted teeth. Ive been hiding and preferred people not notice me. I didn’t feel like me. If those things wouldn’t have happened I literally would have looked different 😔 I started experiencing trouble breathing several years back after developing allergies at the very beginning of my Saturn return around 27/28 yrs old. I went to see my doctor who referred me to an ENT. My dad has sleep apnea and I knew my septum was very deviated and allergies like Hay Fever made it almost impossible to breathe through my nose for about half the year. so I likely needed to get it fixed pretty soon. In Feb 2020, before COVID hit, I was due to have surgery in the spring/early summer. My ENT got a surgical plan ready to go after two years on the waitlist to reconstruct my septum/nose bridge and sinuses. The ‘structural abnormalities’ were minor but many. Some internal, some external. So after surgical pictures and measurements, I got to see what the changes might look like. My perception of how I looked, I realized recently as Saturn toured through the 12th, was always very different from reality. And with a lot of alone time, completing grad school, physical and mental therapy over the years, I have ‘re-aligned’ to my sense of self again. Broken nose or not!! I will never forget what the ENT said to me...”you might not look like you expect, but you will look like you were supposed to.” I think I cried that whole day! I’m supposed to have that surgery within the next few months. Maybe that’s what Jupiter/Saturn over my Asc. will bring in. Some remediation and undoing of physical trauma to my face. I might be more comfortable showing my face to the world! And not having to filter, edit and flip mirrored images because I don’t recognize myself. Confused at which image others see. Esp. now In the upcoming revisioning of our technology, community and the ethereal world of FaceTime, zoom, selfies and live video. Here come the Aqua winds of change, the shifting of many cycles all at once. I’m looking forward to finally being able to breathe again!
10th house Cpaicorn stellium, Saturn present in and ruling 11th house Aquarius, day chart. About to start saturn return. Lets see what this has in store for me!
This was so great! Thank you very much for doing this! There's so much I want to comment on, but I NEED to know the British woman's (c 1:40) Lilith placement(s)! Right?!?! She's a big player in this for sure--definitely by transit but probably natal too from what it seems!
Can’t believe I’m barely watching this! I am one of the lucky late 80’s birthday that has a Capricorn Stellium with the outer planets but I also have my sun moon and mercury there too all in my 6th house.
I have saturn in my 12th house with mercury, Neptune, venus and mars. Man it was a rough time. Then it retrograded twice i believe. So basically I had like 2 saturn returns and don't know how to comprehend it.
My natal Saturn is in libra and I sailed through my Saturn return it was a great time in my life. However this Saturn transit in capricorn in my second house has been an absolute shit show, but I got through it with stubborn determination (Taurus sun) I literally cried tears of joy when it finally moved into Aquarius.
Can you please do an analysis of Saturn in Aquarius/ Returns. Going through my second return in ♒️ right now which will perfect three times due to retrograde motion. Thank you kindly 🙏🏽
Hi! In placidue my natal Saturn is 9 deg in Taurus in 9th H conjuvt vertex 11 deg in Taurus vety near the MC at 14 deg In whole sign houses my natal Saturn is in the 10th H in Tauris accross Neptune i Corpio conj Mars in Sag.
Minha experiência com Saturno em Capricornio, junto com Plutaão foi devastador! Nesses últimos 3 anos , restrições finaceiras, morte em família, tudo desmoronou! Espero que as coisas comecem a melhorar! obrigada
Amazing video, thank you Chris and Leisa. I've noticed that I'll experience Loosing of the Bond (in favorable planets according to my POF) around my exact Saturn return degree this January. Would that signify anything or gives more emphasis on Saturn retrun? Thank you so much for amazing content!
I have Saturn in aries in a night chart. I'm very afraid. At least my Saturn doesn't have any bad aspect, just a little kind of weak sextile from Jupiter in aquarius.
Hi Lucas, I've just posted a comment (26/12/20) and would be interested to know your thoughts on mine. Having just completed my second return with a day chart, I want to reassure you without being misleading. Saturn is the best teacher, often of things we don't want to know so much about, so the lesson is hard, no question! However, there's no choice because the planet moves so slowly and deliberately, and I think, from my own experience, best not to take what happens personally. The transit is about your relationship to your society and your society's relationship to you. If you look at what happened when Saturn opposed and squared your natal placement, you will get an idea of where the challenge will come. Forewarned etc etc.
An Unfortunate saturn return...an old friend of mine passed away during his saturn return. He was 59. Not sure of the house it was in since idk his birth time.
Hey does anyone know if Chris has a video explaining planets in signs that don’t match the sign of the house. I have this in my chart and I’m confused by what it means
The example chart used in the 7th has a Grand Trine with multi conjunctions and actually 2 Kites. This person has led a mostly charmed life. They've nearly got a "Star of David". I'd swap em my pigshit any bloody day of the week. Pluto going into my WH 7th was the start of the shit and it hasn't abated till this day. I lost a great job (Pluto on my 2° Saturn in Cap 6th Placidus) I lost my wife, Pluto SD exactly on my Dsc, on the very day, 19th/20th Sept, 2013, Uranus repeatedly trampling my 29° Aries MC, Sept-Oct, 2017, sacked for ( *not* ) bashing a kid at school, no access to unemployment benefits because of the nature of the accusation, used my meagre retirement funds to build a mobile workshop and got a hernia (l couldn't lift a thing: my colon was distending every 30 mins or upon exertion) where the Doc said "hows ya cancer going?". The previous Doc didn't tell me l had cancer; for 3 fucking years. Because l couldn't get unemployment money l lived on my credit cards and, consequently, became bankrupt. All this Capricorn shit is / has been opposing my 28° Sun after doing same shit to my 9° Asc So with Pluto and Saturn 'endlessly' in Capricorn being revved by Mars every two years and Jup amplifying shit and the SN there for a while. I've had nothing relationship wise since Pluto trampled my Dsc in 2013. I'm fucking sick of loving myself. Everyone says give up looking for someone. That's easy no woman, in her right mind, would go out with anyone accused of bashing someone. *I understand that wholeheartedly* I wouldn't let my daughter go out with someone who has been accused. I gave up. Guess what? No-one has appeared. Ah, it's all shit. What the fuck am I still thieving oxygen for? I mean what is the fuqn point. Forgive my swearing (Mars cj Pluto in the 3rd) I know why Bill Murray punches out that guy in "Groundhog Day".
Thank you so much you guys for another super informative episode. I listen to you every day for 1.5 hours while I drive to physical therapy and loving your wisdom and vocabulary. I am looking for a mentor to deepen my astrology studies (I am a palm reader myself @universalpalmistry). Would you be interested I mentoring?!
I got so far into it where I actually tracked the actual Saturn return point by conjunction where I looked at everything else going on transit wise where I had to actually differentiate what was what. The actual Saturn return related to loss where it was realized loss is just replacing one thing with something better. In other words, it’s better to lose than have where it feels hopeless when, once you lose everything, you’re free to gain anything. These other transits make it muddy. In overall context it (along with other transits) had a major transformation and I’m only really paying attention to it now because my chart is very clustered where I’m in my last major Saturn transit for a long time. It’s been hitting my chart up like Miley Cyrus on a wrecking ball. That transit already happened but Saturn (along with its buddies) pulled a big retrograde and I’m watching it for the hit #2. Another, later in the return was when I first got into astrology actually in depth which was the best time to learn about astrology plus I also learned that at that age the frontal lobe of the brain finally matures. Saturn returns have a scientific explanation. Another point I make about astrology is I recognized things in my chart in relation to things I just intuitively knew would happen (Saturn return period) and by actual actively trying to avoid it I actually walked right into it which brings an interesting free will dynamic. I, for some ungodly reason, got into Fight Club (movie) where I actually said to friends “I don’t know why my mind wants me to watch this movie, but I can’t find anything else to watch so I just leave it on in the background..” well, I know my MBTI type and scores which are INTJ and stumbled on a Jungian analysts depth psychological type review of that movie and it’s an INTJ type; I use the Beebe archetypal model so the 12th house Saturn return with mbti type actually fit with lessons with that. With the MBTI and astrology, sun opposite moon plus all the libra placements you’d find humor that my J and P function scores are 51% to 49%. Plus with that movie, the virgo ascendant and pisces descendant with north/south as 1st/7th is quite hilarious. Funny movie fact: the main characters are based on Thom Yorke and Trent Reznor in the 90’s. I went from relying on cold formulas to more spiritual and I’ll add that the dreams that some say were “prophetic” were actually what Jungians would call the dream house where I recognized the house wasn’t my house nor my dream house but a genetic suburban boring archetype which was why I felt so lifeless. The housing crash was after so others took it as prophetic. My then fiancé liked a house, we agreed to buy it, the walls started burning into ash and it’d be vacant, the nice suburbs turned to like an abandoned Detroit urban area where police where in a street war with violent rioters burning everything down. Reoccurring, but I linked it to a relationship that was based on “it’ll get better” which only got worse. The generic song would be The Grudge by Tool since it’s actually a Saturn return song but the song I actually listened to a lot that details my entire transit is Pasturn by Skinny Puppy. I became interested in individuation by shock that I even found myself with dreams replaced by standards of others where I wasn’t living an authentic life studying how this could have been propagated to me since I’m notoriously individualistic. This leads into a then 4th house Pluto transit. I’ll learn to use that Pasturn song to scare people; at one point I moved close to home where family dropped off my sort of childhood memorabilia where I was sorting through it in a walk in closet and “Pasturn” is literally a song about that exact situation that’s so swarmed it’s nearly impossible to understand the lyrics. It’s almost all in symbolistic metaphor like Sodom destroying Venus.. good times. It’s only when we lose everything that we’re free to do anything.. go figure. It was positive and very necessary.
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AOC has a degree in Economics and international relations. She chose to work as a bartender partly because of her ideals and because she needed to make money in order to support her mother save their home from foreclosure. My point being life has tested her and at the same time given her opportunities to prepare for what she is doing now.
Chris! I was once again in love with the content and so grateful I found your beautiful brain..... But I had to, like so many others, turn it off because you end statements with a question and it breaks my brain every time you do it. It's like asking Google a question and it banged off an AMAZING technical answer that I can repeat ..... But then asks me if that sounded okay..... It takes my faith and immediately makes me distrust the source.... But I know the source is sound. You have to trust that your information is perfect and not end your STATEMENTS as questions. It's not an intelligence thing.... You're the smartest man alive. So it's an insecurity. Like an acceptance thing that has traveled with you from childhood. But you're a God now. You need to make us believe. Please take that part out of your INNER delivery and let us basque 'unquestioned' in your glory! We trust you. We believe you. Say it like you mean it so we can chant it. When you enlighten..... End with periods. Not question marks. I love you brother. I love your work. I just want more of your brain and I cannot listen for long with the way you end facts. Im just giving you a huge fans opinion. 💙🙏👂🏻 B
Don't be ridiculous, of course one should question everything and have the humility to realise that we do not know everything, regardless of how much we have achieved. You want an arrogant authoritarian? Look elsewhere! Humility is an essential part of true intelligence. Stop making ill-informed assumptions!
Thanks everyone who sent in examples! Let us know in the comments if you have a Saturn return story to share. Timestamps below:
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:57 Review of basic principles
00:26:44 First house examples
00:42:18 First/Twelfth house examples
01:05:08 Second house examples
01:25:43 Third house examples
01:36:18 Fourth house examples
02:07:30 Fifth house examples
02:11:48 Sixth house examples
02:25:55 Seventh house examples
02:35:37 Eighth house examples
02:43:56 Ninth house examples
02:51:20 Tenth house examples
02:55:18 Eleventh house examples
03:03:55 More twelfth house examples
03:16:40 Saturn in Aquarius coming up
03:25:57 Further resources for study
03:28:44 Conclusion
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will you do saturn returns every year or every sign so that someone with a leo saturn or so could as well participate in sending examples?
Only a few minutes left, then I can kiss my second Saturn return goodbye.
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Nice! Super lucky to have my 25° Saturn in third house Capricorn. Just about to move out of my SISTERS house (after a little over a year)... with my first CAR.
Hi! Jackie Broe, here - the 12th house sobriety/podcast Saturn return. I loved hearing your insights on my return this episode, thanks for sharing! I’m very intrigued over the 7 year hard aspect insight, especially. I should also say, that while I didn’t go to rehab, I most definitely self-isolated over the last 3 years spending more time with myself than ever before. Had I not isolated, I’m not sure if I would have stayed sober... I started therapy, meditation, journaling/writing, and dove deep into a spiritual practice. It was during this time that I also started diving deeper into astrology, after randomly finding “Saturn return” on the internet... it helped to give myself compassion through what was a very difficult time. I haven’t been able to stop studying astrology since! Or talking about sobriety for that matter ☺️
MY SECOND SATURN RETURN IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AT 29 DEGREES IN 11TH HOUSE as I am a pisces rising. I have released all toxic friendships,, I have put priorities into having surrounding myself with like minded like hearted people, high vibrational experiences, unconditional love, and sacred connections. Also this year i have put focus into my health and my dream career. Finally ruling out all ideas that do not align with my heart's desire and ultimate dharma. Also, this past Solar return conjuncted my midheaven at 24 degrees sag. So what a world wind this past year and last year has been for me. thanks and namaste.
May be this is not the best place for this comment under this podcast but as a 20 year long self learned astrology enthusiast I got to LOVE practical usage of astrology and would like to highlight how much Leisa and Chris have contributed to my understanding recently through their podcasts (whenever they talk about electional astrology) , I'd like to give a shout out to Patrick Watson as well... I know there are many many astrologers out there of the similar sort and it's impossible to name them all but you're giving it a good name through your serious/rigorous work.... Many thanks all...
Going through my first Saturn return , lost a parent , job , relationship and a good friend to suicide . I’m so glad it’s almost over
Sad when you lose a parent, sorry for all of this loss and tough times.
❤🙏 Sincere condolences for your loss & hardships. Sending love.
Wow that is a lot. I'm sorry for your suffering. What house is your Saturn in?
I am finally ending my 2nd at 24 degrees Capricorn. This return was so much harder then my first, lost work and a job due to covid, my son had a psychotic break and 4 months of tragedy, alcoholism and living homeless until he agreed to help after 4 months. Depression, I had a knee replacement, plus a rare tooth infection that landed me in the hospital for 4 days to stop going into sepsis and killing me. A loss of close family connection that were tested. So many things at once with the Saturn/Pluto connection happening on top of my Natal Saturn. I think that was the kicker. Sorry for your losses. 😢❤️ I feel less stress lately and am feeling less pressured. I hope things get less painful for you soon too.
I lost a partner / good friend to suicide as well... the third in the family
I have a Capricorn stelium; Saturn, Uranus and Neptune - 1990 baby! 🙋🏾♀️
These past three years have been the most profound for me. I’m leaving my Saturn return as a new refined person
Yup this is true in 1991 the mt.pinatubo in Philippines erupted a lot of lives lost that time you can see it here in u tube
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Same! Same! Refined like a diamond created in pressure and then cut ✂️ to perfection lol 😆
I have a huge 6th house personal planet cancer stellium. Aquarius rising, and yeah, it's been too real jet wonderful.
@@EVschoice10 I think the best part was during the summer eclipses. I actually got some divine messages from the universe. When Jupiter went into retrograde
Me too. 4 planet Capricorn stellium. My typically boring life was like a plot of a movie ending in Divorce and a butterfly emerging.
I have this return in the 7th house. Saturn return happened for me in DEC 14th 2019. And you filmed this that day a year later!! WOW!! right after a traumatic separation to then be divorce.
.... And a huge healing vacation road trip and after living out of province/state away from family for 4 years. right before the return 2 weeks before the return I started a channel, the pandemic was in the beginning stages and My life changed even more 3 months later losing my job i went to school for, and again 8 months later when I realized my channel was sustainable to live off of. Saturn return is such a huge squeeze.
Thanks so much for this Chris & Leisa. I am the first person you mentioned as a 3rd house example. The one who got divorced, sold all my belongings, lived amongst car parts, built a custom van to live in, etc etc. I really appreciate ya'll sharing my story. The 3rd house charts did get mixed up in the video, but what's amazing about it is that the other Scorpio rising that you talked about is someone I know! Not only someone I know, but someone I have been working with on a Saturn Return project for the past couple years. What a pleasant surprise. I am commenting from my new youtube channel if anyone is interested. Love you both, thanks again!
Astro power couple! Always a good show with this duo. Thank you for all the effort you put into this podcast, it doesn’t go unnoticed!
I have a major Stellium in Capricorn with Saturn, Sun, Venus, Uranus, and Neptune in Whole Sign 7th house. I’m approaching my 32nd birthday so rounding out my extremely long and intense Saturn return. My most trying experiences revolved around interpersonal relationships but also around identity/shadow (oh yeah, my ASC is in Cancer so those eclipses were something 😹). 2020 was the crescendo of the sh!t storm ☔️
I was chuckling when you said a Saturn return in domicile is more constructive - my first Saturn return in Libra, I got divorced from my ex who was unfaithful, graduated from school, moved to a new place with a new career from my new education. It was definitely an extremely painful and diffucult time in my life, but from where I am now everything that went on those years were for my betterment. I wouldn’t have had it any other way.
Glad to hear! Also Saturn is exalted in Libra
I have Saturn in Aquarius the 7th (night chart, square Pluto, opposing sun and mercury, and am i recently entered an Aquarius ruled period based on zodiacal releasing) The first ingress of Saturn into Aquarius was easily one of the most difficult things I’ve experienced in my life. I caught a highly contagious and undiagnosable skin rash (WTF) which not only scarred my entire body, but also spread to my romantic partner. We then proceeded to have the worst breakup I’ve experienced thus far. Once that ended, I took a vow to be single... which seemed impossible (solid relationship opportunities were coming up left and right but I needed more time). The day Saturn reentered Aquarius, I went on a first date with someone new (and first date since my last relationship). Astrology is so literal sometimes. I’m glad that the rest of this Saturn return will not be as difficult as the first part of Saturn in Aquarius. I am definitely taking detailed notes on the rest of the events for the next few years and I hope my story gets featured in your next Saturn return video lol.
I have Saturn 20° 12 of cap. Along with other planets. I lost my dad and mom during this time. One at the beginning and one at the end 😞
I have Saturn conjunct Sun in the twelfth house. To me its is a quite challenging aspect. At my first Saturn return I got a terrible burnout, regained memories of early childhood trauma, and lost my health, job, marriage and home all at once. It took me over 7 years to recover from all that! I started working with horses as a means of therapy, but I have been fond of horses as long as I remember! I surely hope my next saturn return isn't going to be anything like that, because it was like going through hell and back.
HI guys, thanks for this informative video. I have Saturn in my first house at 23 degrees Capricorn (which seemed to be the degree to be this year.. ) .. this was my second Saturn return.. it was a doozy.. lots of hard HARD work on myself. I have basically changed who I am and what I think.. and pretty much don't care what others think of me anymore.. not in a bad way, but in a way that doesn't change how I feel. I'm more in touch with my basic self. But yeah, HARD WORK! I lost my dad on Nov. 1st, so my outside world has changed too. One thing I am grateful for is that Jupiter is leaving too.. I've had enough of "expanding" my first house, thank you very much!! Cheers, Denise
Thanks.Just watched this great one Chris and Leisa. It would be interesting to know “did Johnny Depp’s Saturn return end this year please?
8th house .. my father passed nov 17’ my siblings took part of my inheritance .. i’m ok though they can’t take away what’s meant for me 🐍🦋🌱
I am a Capricorn rising with Saturn at 24 degrees and Neptune and Uranus on my ASC. The past couple of years have been heavy, to say the least! But I am finally getting a grip on who I am which has helped me have the confidence to create the career that I have always wanted. Thank you Chris and Lisa for creating this video, it's comforting to know that I am not the only one who has gone through this type of transformation.
I was born in 89, have the Capricorn stellium all in the 7th house. Cancer rising. I've been confused because my Saturn return was pretty quiet on the relationship/partnership front...I suppose I did more inner work concerning those themes but not much physically manifested. However, both of my parents passed away, and the themes of the 8th house were MUCH more prevalent. I didn't know the two houses were connected in that way, this podcast helped! So interesting, thank you.
you two are amazing! thank you for your skills, time and effort, so appreciated.
Would you all bring this subject back onto the podcast? I'm (slowly) approaching my Saturn return in Pisces!
We'll probably do a Saturn return in Aquarius retrospective early next year. Check the podcast website for an early audio only episode about how to interpret the Saturn return though, as you may find that useful.
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First off, thank you for all of the content, I have learned so much from this podcast!
I am a 2 degree Leo ascendant with Sun in Capricorn at 29degrees, Saturn at 27 degrees, NN at 28, Neptune at 14, Uranus at 10, and Mercury at 6. Subordination, Small pets, Work, Partnerships, money, friendship and sense of self have been emphasized in the past 2.5 years. Delay and restriction have been heavy, and a lot of change. Even more so this past year being 29 in a 6th house profection year. Hoping I’ll have more clarity once it clears these last degrees for me! 😐
Neptune, Uranus, Mars, Moon, Saturn, and Venus in Cap. 6th + 7th. Lots of trial and error, destruction and perseverance in my work, making a slow and steady transition from working for others to working for myself and going from dating primarily men to primarily women. Also beat several hereditary addictions and mental health issues. Thanks for this great conversation.
I almost thought the 10th house example was mine because I submitted my chart and story but it wasn’t lol someone out there has a super similar chart to mine !
i started my first sr in the 4th in aquarius this year and i loved the 2nd sr in the 4th story! 😭 so inspiring
This was such a great way to make sense of/narrativize my own SR experience, even though I am Saturn in the first degree of Scorpio. Thank you! It was illuminating thinking about transits that aren’t directly tied into the SR but in close succession-like Pluto at 28 Libra conjoining with transiting Saturn before my actual Saturn hit (breakup). Anyway, this was probably instructive for all of us!
My Saturn return was cake compared to this year. I have the Saturn, Jupiter, Pluto mess opposing my ascendant and squaring my natal pluto and Saturn. Lost my job and went through a divorce this year. My Saturn return was more finding my now ex-wife and started not bouncing between jobs, held two jobs for over 4 years since then, and kicked my former best friend of 17 years to the curb because of his toxicity. I'll take a Saturn return any day!
Thank you Chris Lisa look forward to your podcast 🎉👍🙏
I had my Saturn return in cappy (2nd house) back in April 2018 the biggest change to my life yet and then retrograde dec 2018. I have learned a lot about my self and I wasn't on the best life path now I feel more on course. It did change and make me re think how i make money and moving forward coming back to something I studied 13 years ago
Very interesting episode which has triggered many thoughts since I caught up after the Year Ahead episode. I don't usually get the opportunity to sit down and watch so rely completely on a verbal description of the placements and time of the nativity/event to visualise the chart under discussion. (Public holidays in the darkest days, a good internet connection and the necessity of social distancing during the big Christian fest are an unexpected blessing!)
I love how this time in history is allowing astrologers to gather data from such a wide range of sources, and to make public comparison of the nativities of 'ordinary' people, not just celebrities and Royals.
One of my thoughts since listening has been about the position of Saturn in relation to the angles for angular Saturn returns. Also - because this is still a new concept for me, having learnt most of what I know before Project Hindsight and, ironically, taken a 15 year break from astrology just as critically important (re)discoveries were being made - the role of sect in the Saturn cycle.
So, now . . . I'm curious! Do you think the Saturn cycle in a day chart indicates the potential for a lifetime in which material (ie tangible or external) realisations of the native placement are indicated? And, when Saturn is angular, the effort to realise this potential will be maximised? I've already written more than most, so I won't labour the point about the inverse being the case in a night chart (ie. frustration rather than realisation).
Lastly, I may have missed it, but a keyword kept surfacing as I was listening but I don't think I heard it uttered. Responsibility. The Saturn cycle reveals to us that part of life for which the native must accept responsibility - whether they like it or not! Responsibility is lonely; nobody else can take it, and if not accepted the consequences can be very harsh. In Christian mythology - as I recall - Saturn became linked to Satan, a much maligned [sic] angel. With a benign but all powerful God, how could responsibility fall to any individual in any case?
My reasoning at a psychological level is that taking responsibility for the Saturn placement in our nativity requires a kind of humility that most of us find painful. Being the last planet visible to the naked eye, it marks the boundary between who we think we are and who our society permits us to be.
Great thanks, as ever, for giving this data gathering and sharing task your good attention, Chris, and Leisa (forgive any bad spelling; it's a weakness of Mercury in Pisces!). Happy New 200 Years everybody :D
It would have been more interesting if Chris could include more examples about the listeners and less about the celebrities. Since there was plenty opportunities for them to talk about celebrity charts before, this episode could have been more listeners focused.
Wonderful episode, as always! Thank you for your work!
I was born about four days after the 10th house chart example as a Taurus rising with the MC in the 9th. I found a lot of what the 9th and 10th house examples experienced resonated a lot with me.
A lot happened during my Saturn return, but the peak of it brought the final stages of a career change, and I now work in an academic library. There was an abundance of other options, though, which will be interesting given the Saturn return coincided with a foreshadowing period in Capricorn in my zodiacal releasing. A lot was happening at once astrologically!
Interestingly, one of the interests I dove deeper into (besides fiction writing, blogging, and Buddhism) was astrology. I didn't get into it until near the end, almost exactly when Mars went retrograde in my 12th house squaring the Cap stellium.
I'm surprised that what I appreciated most about this episode, though, was seeing how Uranus and Neptune played out for others. I feel they're often neglected because they're "generational" planets, but there were plenty of examples here of how their co-presence affected people in very personal ways. It's nice to know I share that with others. Thanks for a great episode!
21 degree Saturn in Capricorn 12th whole sign and 2 degrees I was gifted the ultimate responsibility!
I'm 23rd feb 1990, my Saturn is direct and sits at 21, 35 min. When is your bday? Also, congrats!
All this info is great! Began visiting the resources and I am diving in and loving all of it. Thank you so much for sharing these resources for us newbies to astrology to learn more about ourselves! I came upon you by accident. The only aspect you didn't cover is the possible impact for those of us who have Saturn retrogades. Thank you for all the work you do!
Just had my second Saturn return at 17 degrees Capricorn on the second house. Lost my source of income but also got an inheritance having Cancer on the 8th house. I feel that the timing of everything was perfect. 🙏🪐
Many thanks to both of you for such a master class on Saturn return!! I learned a lot!!
I was born with Saturn (retrograde and out of sect) at 0 Capricorn so I get to enjoy the full three years and Capricorn rules the sixth...this second round has been the most brutal cycle ever and I'm still not sure I will survive it.
My 2nd SR has been at 24 degrees in Capricorn in the first house. Major Challenges to multiple area’s of my life. One of the most difficult with the transforming with Pluto conjunction to Saturn this year. I am burned out physically.
My Saturn’s return story is wild i think, when consider Uranus and Neptune in there, in the end it was very meaningful event of my life. Thank you Saturn.
Going through my Pisces saturn return in the 7th house right now which starts in a Cap profection year ends end on the pisces profection year, it's definitely going to be (and already is so far) a transformative time!
We made it guys 💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾 Stellium in my 10H
Saturn does not like short cuts and people trying to pull a fast one. If we are trying to do that it most definitely would slow us down and ask us to do the hard work needed for the reward we want. I think it is a fair deal. I have been having it in 8th house opposing my moon and ascendant ruler.
I just realized my mom had me while she was going through her 1st Saturn return. Her placenta broke on the 6th month and I was born. I had to be incubated for at least half a year and had to have a surgery as well. Her Saturn is in Pisces.
Thank you two ❤️ so very good work very very intresting
Saturn just entered my whole 8th house in Aquarius and my bike got stolen last night. It’s scary to know that the next 2.5 years will have such themes.
What a great find this podcast is! I love your deep dives and I am extremely impressed by your knowledge. Thank you!!! I’m a fellow Denverite too.❤️
I have an example of Saturn transiting out of the 12th and returning to my Asc.
I have an Aquarius Asc. At 3° and Saturn in Scorpio in the 10th WSH along with a stellium (venus, Pluto, moon). Day chart, with a sun/mercury conjunction in the 12th, sextile Saturn.
The first time Saturn came to my Asc. was in ‘91/‘92. Saturn was pendulating over on my asc. Degree forward then retrograding backward, like it is now.
During those years, I was 7 and 8 years old. I broke my nose, badly! I also cut my lip open in a nasty fall, then my dentist pulled two molars she shouldn’t have. it shifted my teeth to one side, even braces didn’t fix it fully. All in that short span of time, my face was not mine, it was broken. Saturn represented the demolishing of bone, cartilage and facial structures. The face that you show to the world, to the public. I feared that everyone saw something I didn’t want them to see, something two-faced, ‘off’ that made them uneasy. I have struggled with low self-image and looked at myself as ‘disfigured’ ever since. Trapped in some other face. The one I don’t want others to see, or that when people looked at me, they just saw the broken nose, crooked lip and shifted teeth. Ive been hiding and preferred people not notice me. I didn’t feel like me. If those things wouldn’t have happened I literally would have looked different 😔
I started experiencing trouble breathing several years back after developing allergies at the very beginning of my Saturn return around 27/28 yrs old.
I went to see my doctor who referred me to an ENT. My dad has sleep apnea and I knew my septum was very deviated and allergies like Hay Fever made it almost impossible to breathe through my nose for about half the year. so I likely needed to get it fixed pretty soon.
In Feb 2020, before COVID hit, I was due to have surgery in the spring/early summer. My ENT got a surgical plan ready to go after two years on the waitlist to reconstruct my septum/nose bridge and sinuses. The ‘structural abnormalities’ were minor but many. Some internal, some external. So after surgical pictures and measurements, I got to see what the changes might look like. My perception of how I looked, I realized recently as Saturn toured through the 12th, was always very different from reality. And with a lot of alone time, completing grad school, physical and mental therapy over the years, I have ‘re-aligned’ to my sense of self again. Broken nose or not!! I will never forget what the ENT said to me...”you might not look like you expect, but you will look like you were supposed to.” I think I cried that whole day!
I’m supposed to have that surgery within the next few months. Maybe that’s what Jupiter/Saturn over my Asc. will bring in. Some remediation and undoing of physical trauma to my face. I might be more comfortable showing my face to the world! And not having to filter, edit and flip mirrored images because I don’t recognize myself. Confused at which image others see. Esp. now In the upcoming revisioning of our technology, community and the ethereal world of FaceTime, zoom, selfies and live video. Here come the Aqua winds of change, the shifting of many cycles all at once. I’m looking forward to finally being able to breathe again!
That 11th house transit hits too close to home
10th house Cpaicorn stellium, Saturn present in and ruling 11th house Aquarius, day chart. About to start saturn return. Lets see what this has in store for me!
This was so great! Thank you very much for doing this! There's so much I want to comment on, but I NEED to know the British woman's (c 1:40) Lilith placement(s)! Right?!?! She's a big player in this for sure--definitely by transit but probably natal too from what it seems!
Can’t believe I’m barely watching this! I am one of the lucky late 80’s birthday that has a Capricorn Stellium with the outer planets but I also have my sun moon and mercury there too all in my 6th house.
Also I’m a product of my father’s Saturn return
Ughh I missed turning mine in!! Lol oh well enjoyed these 🤣🤣🪐
I have saturn in my 12th house with mercury, Neptune, venus and mars. Man it was a rough time. Then it retrograded twice i believe. So basically I had like 2 saturn returns and don't know how to comprehend it.
I started hearing voices during my Saturn return in Aquarius in the 8th house 😅
My natal Saturn is in libra and I sailed through my Saturn return it was a great time in my life. However this Saturn transit in capricorn in my second house has been an absolute shit show, but I got through it with stubborn determination (Taurus sun) I literally cried tears of joy when it finally moved into Aquarius.
Can you please do an analysis of Saturn in Aquarius/ Returns. Going through my second return in ♒️ right now which will perfect three times due to retrograde motion.
Thank you kindly 🙏🏽
Thank you to both of you! I'm out in Elizabeth Colorado!
Hi! In placidue my natal Saturn is 9 deg in Taurus in 9th H conjuvt vertex 11 deg in Taurus vety near the MC at 14 deg In whole sign houses my natal Saturn is in the 10th H in Tauris accross Neptune i Corpio conj Mars in Sag.
Minha experiência com Saturno em Capricornio, junto com Plutaão foi devastador! Nesses últimos 3 anos , restrições finaceiras, morte em família, tudo desmoronou! Espero que as coisas comecem a melhorar! obrigada
does anyone know what saturn in aries at 26 degrees mean for me if im capricorn moon?
Amazing video, thank you Chris and Leisa. I've noticed that I'll experience Loosing of the Bond (in favorable planets according to my POF) around my exact Saturn return degree this January. Would that signify anything or gives more emphasis on Saturn retrun? Thank you so much for amazing content!
I have Saturn in aries in a night chart. I'm very afraid. At least my Saturn doesn't have any bad aspect, just a little kind of weak sextile from Jupiter in aquarius.
Hi Lucas, I've just posted a comment (26/12/20) and would be interested to know your thoughts on mine. Having just completed my second return with a day chart, I want to reassure you without being misleading. Saturn is the best teacher, often of things we don't want to know so much about, so the lesson is hard, no question! However, there's no choice because the planet moves so slowly and deliberately, and I think, from my own experience, best not to take what happens personally. The transit is about your relationship to your society and your society's relationship to you. If you look at what happened when Saturn opposed and squared your natal placement, you will get an idea of where the challenge will come. Forewarned etc etc.
An Unfortunate saturn return...an old friend of mine passed away during his saturn return. He was 59. Not sure of the house it was in since idk his birth time.
the idea of Sagittarius rising is more exciting of Capricorn rising is quite ridiculous...
Loved it.
Hey does anyone know if Chris has a video explaining planets in signs that don’t match the sign of the house. I have this in my chart and I’m confused by what it means
Chris uses Whole Sign House System, so this is not possible.
The example chart used in the 7th has a Grand Trine with multi conjunctions and actually 2 Kites.
This person has led a mostly charmed life. They've nearly got a "Star of David". I'd swap em my pigshit any bloody day of the week.
Pluto going into my WH 7th was the start of the shit and it hasn't abated till this day. I lost a great job (Pluto on my 2° Saturn in Cap 6th Placidus)
I lost my wife, Pluto SD exactly on my Dsc, on the very day, 19th/20th Sept, 2013, Uranus repeatedly trampling my 29° Aries MC, Sept-Oct, 2017, sacked for ( *not* ) bashing a kid at school, no access to unemployment benefits because of the nature of the accusation, used my meagre retirement funds to build a mobile workshop and got a hernia (l couldn't lift a thing: my colon was distending every 30 mins or upon exertion) where the Doc said "hows ya cancer going?". The previous Doc didn't tell me l had cancer; for 3 fucking years. Because l couldn't get unemployment money l lived on my credit cards and, consequently, became bankrupt. All this Capricorn shit is / has been opposing my 28° Sun after doing same shit to my 9° Asc
So with Pluto and Saturn 'endlessly' in Capricorn being revved by Mars every two years and Jup amplifying shit and the SN there for a while.
I've had nothing relationship wise since Pluto trampled my Dsc in 2013.
I'm fucking sick of loving myself. Everyone says give up looking for someone. That's easy no woman, in her right mind, would go out with anyone accused of bashing someone. *I understand that wholeheartedly* I wouldn't let my daughter go out with someone who has been accused.
I gave up. Guess what? No-one has appeared. Ah, it's all shit. What the fuck am I still thieving oxygen for? I mean what is the fuqn point.
Forgive my swearing (Mars cj Pluto in the 3rd)
I know why Bill Murray punches out that guy in "Groundhog Day".
Would you let me translate your content in Italian, please?
Capricorn in the 🏠 3
Thank you so much you guys for another super informative episode. I listen to you every day for 1.5 hours while I drive to physical therapy and loving your wisdom and vocabulary. I am looking for a mentor to deepen my astrology studies (I am a palm reader myself @universalpalmistry). Would you be interested I mentoring?!
I got so far into it where I actually tracked the actual Saturn return point by conjunction where I looked at everything else going on transit wise where I had to actually differentiate what was what. The actual Saturn return related to loss where it was realized loss is just replacing one thing with something better. In other words, it’s better to lose than have where it feels hopeless when, once you lose everything, you’re free to gain anything. These other transits make it muddy. In overall context it (along with other transits) had a major transformation and I’m only really paying attention to it now because my chart is very clustered where I’m in my last major Saturn transit for a long time. It’s been hitting my chart up like Miley Cyrus on a wrecking ball. That transit already happened but Saturn (along with its buddies) pulled a big retrograde and I’m watching it for the hit #2.
Another, later in the return was when I first got into astrology actually in depth which was the best time to learn about astrology plus I also learned that at that age the frontal lobe of the brain finally matures. Saturn returns have a scientific explanation.
Another point I make about astrology is I recognized things in my chart in relation to things I just intuitively knew would happen (Saturn return period) and by actual actively trying to avoid it I actually walked right into it which brings an interesting free will dynamic. I, for some ungodly reason, got into Fight Club (movie) where I actually said to friends “I don’t know why my mind wants me to watch this movie, but I can’t find anything else to watch so I just leave it on in the background..” well, I know my MBTI type and scores which are INTJ and stumbled on a Jungian analysts depth psychological type review of that movie and it’s an INTJ type; I use the Beebe archetypal model so the 12th house Saturn return with mbti type actually fit with lessons with that. With the MBTI and astrology, sun opposite moon plus all the libra placements you’d find humor that my J and P function scores are 51% to 49%. Plus with that movie, the virgo ascendant and pisces descendant with north/south as 1st/7th is quite hilarious. Funny movie fact: the main characters are based on Thom Yorke and Trent Reznor in the 90’s. I went from relying on cold formulas to more spiritual and I’ll add that the dreams that some say were “prophetic” were actually what Jungians would call the dream house where I recognized the house wasn’t my house nor my dream house but a genetic suburban boring archetype which was why I felt so lifeless. The housing crash was after so others took it as prophetic. My then fiancé liked a house, we agreed to buy it, the walls started burning into ash and it’d be vacant, the nice suburbs turned to like an abandoned Detroit urban area where police where in a street war with violent rioters burning everything down. Reoccurring, but I linked it to a relationship that was based on “it’ll get better” which only got worse.
The generic song would be The Grudge by Tool since it’s actually a Saturn return song but the song I actually listened to a lot that details my entire transit is Pasturn by Skinny Puppy. I became interested in individuation by shock that I even found myself with dreams replaced by standards of others where I wasn’t living an authentic life studying how this could have been propagated to me since I’m notoriously individualistic. This leads into a then 4th house Pluto transit. I’ll learn to use that Pasturn song to scare people; at one point I moved close to home where family dropped off my sort of childhood memorabilia where I was sorting through it in a walk in closet and “Pasturn” is literally a song about that exact situation that’s so swarmed it’s nearly impossible to understand the lyrics. It’s almost all in symbolistic metaphor like Sodom destroying Venus.. good times. It’s only when we lose everything that we’re free to do anything.. go figure. It was positive and very necessary.
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I’d love a podcast on Saturn return in Aquarius.
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AOC has a degree in Economics and international relations. She chose to work as a bartender partly because of her ideals and because she needed to make money in order to support her mother save their home from foreclosure.
My point being life has tested her and at the same time given her opportunities to prepare for what she is doing now.
Chris!
I was once again in love with the content and so grateful I found your beautiful brain.....
But I had to, like so many others, turn it off because you end statements with a question and it breaks my brain every time you do it.
It's like asking Google a question and it banged off an AMAZING technical answer that I can repeat ..... But then asks me if that sounded okay..... It takes my faith and immediately makes me distrust the source.... But I know the source is sound.
You have to trust that your information is perfect and not end your STATEMENTS as questions. It's not an intelligence thing.... You're the smartest man alive. So it's an insecurity.
Like an acceptance thing that has traveled with you from childhood.
But you're a God now. You need to make us believe.
Please take that part out of your INNER delivery and let us basque 'unquestioned' in your glory!
We trust you. We believe you.
Say it like you mean it so we can chant it.
When you enlighten..... End with periods. Not question marks.
I love you brother. I love your work.
I just want more of your brain and I cannot listen for long with the way you end facts.
Im just giving you a huge fans opinion.
💙🙏👂🏻
B
Don't be ridiculous, of course one should question everything and have the humility to realise that we do not know everything, regardless of how much we have achieved. You want an arrogant authoritarian? Look elsewhere! Humility is an essential part of true intelligence. Stop making ill-informed assumptions!