I guess the fate of bulky physical electric types is to get outclassed. Look at Luxray, just give it another typing and it would be so much better. For me it shows that even the most broken statspread on such a pokemon cant save it from not being the best option.
@shimogane2474 Problem is that invalidates Volt Tackle, so if they did have to buff Wild Charge it would have to be 105-110 power instead of 120. Because God knows Game Freak isn't gonna let Pikachu's main thing go to waste.
@@anusthing trick room is really common, tyranitar is weak to it, great tusk isn't as common, eq is harder to use against it since it hits your ally I think, I'm not a vgc expert
I’ve always loved Hariyama. Not a fan of Iron Hands’ design (or the fact that they didn’t buff regular Hariyama in Gen 9) but it was nice to see (at least a form of) Yama in OU again.
Genuinely curious what do you like about Hariyama? Because if you like it's design and aren't a fan of iron hands design than I'm confused because they are basically the same
ive been using regular Hariyama in gen 9 Vgc, its super good there (wide guard and fake out are super good support, and drain punch/knock off or bullet punch are good awnsers to meta threats) honestly better then iron hands in my opinion
I've been really into UU this generation and Hands feels like it's a UUBL mon to me. It's pushed out of OU because it just can't match well against the tier, but it has SO MUCH HEALTH that in UU it can just tank and roll teams easily, especially with Fairy Tera as Poison and Steel aren't exactly strong offensive typings in the tier. It gets one good SD up and it can just Drain Punch through most teams, not all but still very over bearing.
Iron Hands might not be the best in singles anymore, but it's still pretty good in VGC and doubles! I've been having a lot of fun using it on Trick Room teams.
Second this, Iron Hands is a top 5 threat in VGC right now, at least in my opinion. It's very bulky, can survive for a long time with drain punch, provide fake out pressure, and it'd be absolutely everywhere if it weren't for it's poor Flutter Mane match-up.
Everything went wrong for Iron Hands, Great Tusk is the most popular Pokémon in the meta, good physical electric moves basically do not exist and being a paradox form neglects it an ability (yes it's the 10th time I point this out). Give the poor robot Iron Fist
I remember the first like 2 months, everyone was using this thing in the Tera Raid feature in the game as Belly Drum then any of the punch moves would melt through pokemon, It's so interesting to hear why the funny electric hariyama isn't viable. Great vid as always Jim!
They counter different sets of Pokemon and their defensive typings are used to better handle different sets of pokemon too, but they are in essence performing the same role.
Iron Hands honestly isn't even that good for raids. It's just too risky to set up with Belly Drum and still really weak even after boosting because its best damaging moves for raids are just Drain Punch and Thunder Punch. If you want Fighting and Electric type attackers for raids, Koraidon and Miraidon are infinitely better than Iron Hands.
My favorite part of this video is when iron valiant swooped in and said "you've been ironed out" and then ironed out the entirety of OU, I just scrafted my pants! 🤯
Ancient Donphan loves eating Future Hariyama for lunch, plain and simple. Also, Physical Electric moves are straight booty. What is there? A comparatively weak punch move, or the electrical equivalent of intentionally crashing a car into a tree. There is NOTHING ELSE that's good. Add in the fact that it doesn't get any other ability, and Iron Hands is set up to fail, especially when there are hard counters that it just can't break through. Quark Drive isn't horrendous for it, but if it got Iron Fist, it might have a bit more ooooomph.
I'm honestly expecting this mon to get in the permanent UUBL limbo. Is the kind of mon who doesn't work well when there's borderline OP ground types like Great Tusk or Landorus T, but also can be opressive when those aren't around. The best ground types in UU are Sandy shocks, Donphan and Gastrodon, where only the second is an adecuate answer. Things would become even worse in march if Iron Threads drops but that isn't happening soon.
I primarily play VGC but I love seeing how different Pokemon excel in singles vs. doubles. I've been using belly drum Iron Hands in doubles and it's been fun!
A mon with those stats and typing can never be too bad. Hopefully electric types get a better consistent electric stab to help a lot of th weaker ones out.
make a video about how garbage treads is, it's OU by usage only because of it being a noob bait and everything it does is outclassed by another mon. Even being a fast spinner is outclassed by Great Tusk whose 300 speed is good enough and can actually live a ground move, as well as take advantage of the +1 speed rather than volt switching out instantly, and Cryogonal of all things due to its levitate
Hear me out the more of the recoil of Wild Charge(1% of recoil)should make it a higher chance of Paralysis(that means 1% of recoil=1%chance of Paralysis)
Iron Hands: These look like big strong hands, don't they? I always thought that's what they were. My OU presence...the meta pulled it right out of my hands. I failed.
Assault vest is my preferred set, but swords dance + Tera fly is insanely strong. You’re so naturally bulky and have amazing coverage that really rewards getting your turns right. It’s like a bulky nidoking from past gens, but a bit easier to use since you have the room for error due to the bulk. Another comparison could be to conkeldurr who is bulky yet insanely strong offensively. Those type of Pokémon tend to reward people who play it differently than people whose offense is Dragapult and just press Draco. One requires brain power, the other requires fingers 😂 Thought there is something to be said about ease of use for consistent performance with things like Pult. I just think people should not overlook bulky offense, it’s pretty under explored outside of the unaware demons and the few bulk up sets running around.
Man I'm so sad that Iron Hands has fallen so much, it's a genuinely cool and good pokemon, many games have been saved by him, and even vs great tusk he can destroy him in the long run with terra flying + swords dance and win the game. Now he is probably gonna be even lower since he has fallen onto a tier that is ruled by a very well known psyquic warrior and his very sharp swords and cuts.
Not exactly. Iron Hands is both bulky and hard-hitting by UU standards, and is currently dominating the tier. In fact, many are calling for a ban on it.
Honestly, I feel like Iron Hands is being overlooked despite facing stiff competition currently. SD sets are nice on specific Hyper Offense teams since Hands provides so much defensive utility for those kinds of squads while having no shortage of power, but I think what’ll ultimately keep it relevant enough to be viable in OU, if not letting it have a resurgence up here, is Band set on bulkier hazard stacking teams (i.e. paired with Tank Chomp). Band gives me similar vibes to Melmetal, although Melm was obviously a LOT better last gen. It’s basically impossible to OHKO on the physical end and only a handful of extremely strong special attacks can OHKO it as well. And like Melmetal, it can punish pretty much anything in front of it just because of its amazing coverage and high damage output. Plus, it’s a rare physical attacker that isn’t utterly terrified of Dondozo. I think Band’s best selling point is that it’s so good at forcing trades against almost everything except Defensive Great Tusk and special/mixed Iron Valiant. Now, that’s sadly a massive pair of exceptions, but that’s still a really interesting niche to have - and one that doesn’t necessarily require you to commit your Tera to it, either. If it gets in safely via an aggressive double switch, you’re the one with the advantage since your opponent has to play a messy prediction game against a mon that can 2HKO nearly everything in the game. Against some teams, that’s a question of *what* to sacrifice to it.
IMO: Iron Hands matches up very well against offense structures because of its massive base stats that let it eat attacks and hit back hard in a huge amount of 1v1 matchups. Unfortunately, we've reached a much more balance-centric meta at this point, and in that type of meta, winning a 1v1 isn't really that important, because Balance teams are built to chip you down, not win clean 1v1s like a hyper offense team wants. The weakness of a Pokemon like Iron Hands is that it can't do what it does forever; even on a good day, it has to choose between giving up longevity with Close Combat and Wild Charge or power with Drain Punch and Thunder Punch, and there are a lot of Fighting resists around that don't even give it that. It's spikes-vulnerable, easy to put status on, and doesn't quite have the raw power to help compensate for those weaknesses. It's far from unviable - it's a very consistent check to some of the tier's strongest offensive threats, like Chien Pao, Kingambit and Roaring Moon, and I think it would still be OU if Great Tusk wasn't such a problem, but that's not the world we live in. The sad thing is that as the game gets updated, we'll start to get more and more threatening fairy types that will match up well against Iron Hands, and unless Lando completely dethrones Great Tusk (which I don't think is too likely), I don't see its life getting much better.
Do your videos apply to BSS? I think so, but there would be small variations, like I don't think Kingambit with Supreme Overlord makes sense in 3v3, but it's great for 6v6.
I don't think UU is healty with Iron-Hands around, I'm sure this Pokemon will get the same treatment as 4th generation Raikou that was a menace with Sub Calm Mind and stayed in UU/BL because of it. I think Hands will eventually become Borderline and stay that way for a very long time, if not permanently.
It could take on UU when HOME drops, bringing in Ursaluna. It'll likely drop to UU because of Great Tusk as well, which in turn will repeat Iron Hand's OU experience. That or the both of them just get UU/BL
Honestly, I’ve always felt that Iron Hands was a bit underwhelming. It does have great stats, but its low speed and unreliable electric stab made it seem really unappealing to me, and I always thought it was only supposed to be used on Trick Room teams because of its stat spread. Whenever I’ve had to use a slow powerful attacker in gen 9 OU, I picked Kingambit every time.
They really just need to make a better and a more widely distributed physical electric attack. Zing zap isn’t accessible for most electric types, Wild Charge is underwhelming and should honestly be equal to Volt Tackle, and Plasma Fist and Fusion Bolt are both exclusive to legendaries.
To be fair, the Iron Hands were never the most popular legion/chapter. Ferrus Manus had such poor characterization through the Heresy and the legion was forgotten…..wait, wrong franchise
VGC and smogon are 2 really different formats with 2 really different environments. In singles great tusk is everywhere and kingambit is a big competitor but in vgc, ground type Pokémon are not as popular and iron Hands has access to stuff like fake out and volt switch, which are way more reliable in VGC than singles and are stuff that kingambit doesn’t have.
Iron hands was a fantastic Pokemon in the early meta game when great tusk wasn’t used very much,but with the banning of flutter mane,iron bundle and chi yu,great tusk got better and better and now,it’s used too much and hands has therefore fallen.however I trust like hippowdon it will return one day as Pokemon home arrives,and people slowly stop using great tusk as much,iron hands will come back to eat up every single hit under the sun
I think Banded Hands has merit over Kingambit and Tusk. Unfortunately there's the question of why would you use it when Banded Pao exists in the same tier and is insanely fast.
Also Kingambit is a comeback mon with its ability. Supreme Overlord is one of the most insane abilities every. Iron hands doesn’t have this comeback potential. Kingambit literally has Joker Arsene in smash LOL
This is explained by ladder being dumb. This bad boy is melmetal on crack. Sure having a bad matchup against the most used mon in the tier is bad but so many pokemon lost to lando last gen but stayed in ou.
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The day physical electrics get a good 90 bp electric move is the day Iron Hands gets so much better
With a chance to para and no recoil
@@ps5056 a chance to para and lower defence
Ikr
They just have to make Wild Charge be a Eletric-Type Flare Blitz, at least it would've useful
@@diegoemanuel8641 They can't because volt tackle is electric type flare blitz so there's limited design space.
I guess the fate of bulky physical electric types is to get outclassed. Look at Luxray, just give it another typing and it would be so much better. For me it shows that even the most broken statspread on such a pokemon cant save it from not being the best option.
Maybe they would be a little more viable if all the good physical Electric moves weren't being hoarded by the Pikaclones.
@@timmyreobed5043 or wild charge being buffed to 120 bp
@shimogane2474 Problem is that invalidates Volt Tackle, so if they did have to buff Wild Charge it would have to be 105-110 power instead of 120. Because God knows Game Freak isn't gonna let Pikachu's main thing go to waste.
@@astralguardian5930 buff it to 150
@@astralguardian5930 make Volt Tackle a Gigaton Hammer clone
Smogon: UU
VGC: on 48% of teams in Orlando
I love how the two formats differ so much in strats.
I agree but your comment makes it sound like UU just has a bunch of terrible pokemon, even though that's obviously not true.
Why's it so good in vgc? I don't get it
@@anusthing trick room is really common, tyranitar is weak to it, great tusk isn't as common, eq is harder to use against it since it hits your ally
I think, I'm not a vgc expert
@@anusthing it also gets Fake Out
Incineroar is NU in gen 7 while being in 70% of teams in vgc.
I’ve always loved Hariyama. Not a fan of Iron Hands’ design (or the fact that they didn’t buff regular Hariyama in Gen 9) but it was nice to see (at least a form of) Yama in OU again.
Genuinely curious what do you like about Hariyama? Because if you like it's design and aren't a fan of iron hands design than I'm confused because they are basically the same
@@nnightkingj From color scheme to even slight changes matters.
They did give hariyama headlong rush and tera steel which would be a buff
ive been using regular Hariyama in gen 9 Vgc, its super good there (wide guard and fake out are super good support, and drain punch/knock off or bullet punch are good awnsers to meta threats) honestly better then iron hands in my opinion
@@JustLuca779 yeah, Hariyama has always been more of a doubles mon
I've been really into UU this generation and Hands feels like it's a UUBL mon to me. It's pushed out of OU because it just can't match well against the tier, but it has SO MUCH HEALTH that in UU it can just tank and roll teams easily, especially with Fairy Tera as Poison and Steel aren't exactly strong offensive typings in the tier. It gets one good SD up and it can just Drain Punch through most teams, not all but still very over bearing.
Yeah, I doubt it will be perfectly fine in UU
Iron Hands might not be the best in singles anymore, but it's still pretty good in VGC and doubles! I've been having a lot of fun using it on Trick Room teams.
Second this, Iron Hands is a top 5 threat in VGC right now, at least in my opinion. It's very bulky, can survive for a long time with drain punch, provide fake out pressure, and it'd be absolutely everywhere if it weren't for it's poor Flutter Mane match-up.
Everything went wrong for Iron Hands, Great Tusk is the most popular Pokémon in the meta, good physical electric moves basically do not exist and being a paradox form neglects it an ability (yes it's the 10th time I point this out). Give the poor robot Iron Fist
Sadly i doubt they'll ever give hidden abilities to paradox pokemon,just like they never gave hidden abilities to the Ultra Beast.
@@Gimas96 they better not. The eeveelutions need their second abilities. Where is my Slush Rush Glaceon.
@@shatteredsentient5321 Umbreon was robbed of Magic Guard to counterpart Espeon's Magic Bounce!
I remember the first like 2 months, everyone was using this thing in the Tera Raid feature in the game as Belly Drum then any of the punch moves would melt through pokemon, It's so interesting to hear why the funny electric hariyama isn't viable. Great vid as always Jim!
if K'm not mistaken they raid meta settled on azumarill now right?
@@rajkanishu Iron hands is still used a lot, in my experience they're used about the same
@@rajkanishu depends what you're fighting I use iron hands mainly though
They counter different sets of Pokemon and their defensive typings are used to better handle different sets of pokemon too, but they are in essence performing the same role.
Iron Hands honestly isn't even that good for raids. It's just too risky to set up with Belly Drum and still really weak even after boosting because its best damaging moves for raids are just Drain Punch and Thunder Punch. If you want Fighting and Electric type attackers for raids, Koraidon and Miraidon are infinitely better than Iron Hands.
My favorite part of this video is when iron valiant swooped in and said "you've been ironed out" and then ironed out the entirety of OU, I just scrafted my pants! 🤯
Nephew what are you talking about
@@CubeBizz morbius iron valiant memes
Scrafty-ed
When she said "it's ironing time"
Man physical electric mons surely always find some blockade for their own reign huh?
It all started with Electivire tbh.
I hear that Zeraora is pretty good, because it has fantastic speed and coverage, not in gen 9 yet, sadly
"Pokemon is not a game played in a vacuum."
Some kid somewhere out there: "Hehe, they don't know about the gameboy I put in that vacuum."
Okay, these usage statistics are getting out of HAND 🤣
This is getting out of hand
Now there are TWO of them!
SLAP
SLAP
Okay analaysis video! Thanks for uploading!
Ancient Donphan loves eating Future Hariyama for lunch, plain and simple. Also, Physical Electric moves are straight booty. What is there? A comparatively weak punch move, or the electrical equivalent of intentionally crashing a car into a tree. There is NOTHING ELSE that's good. Add in the fact that it doesn't get any other ability, and Iron Hands is set up to fail, especially when there are hard counters that it just can't break through. Quark Drive isn't horrendous for it, but if it got Iron Fist, it might have a bit more ooooomph.
Jimothy Cool: Iron Hands Usage is PLUMMETING in Competitive
VGC players: 15-32 teams in Orlando regional that used Iron Hands...
Found this channel on my recommended about a month ago and it's great 👍
I'm honestly expecting this mon to get in the permanent UUBL limbo. Is the kind of mon who doesn't work well when there's borderline OP ground types like Great Tusk or Landorus T, but also can be opressive when those aren't around. The best ground types in UU are Sandy shocks, Donphan and Gastrodon, where only the second is an adecuate answer. Things would become even worse in march if Iron Threads drops but that isn't happening soon.
I must say Jimothy I love your channel. So incredibly informative!
How the hell was ice horce pu in gen 8 and how will it do in gen 9
Iron Hands in AAA on the other hand...
That thumbnail pun was bad and you know it.
Deep down I know it to be true.
viper outro no way
I primarily play VGC but I love seeing how different Pokemon excel in singles vs. doubles. I've been using belly drum Iron Hands in doubles and it's been fun!
A mon with those stats and typing can never be too bad.
Hopefully electric types get a better consistent electric stab to help a lot of th weaker ones out.
make a video about how garbage treads is, it's OU by usage only because of it being a noob bait and everything it does is outclassed by another mon. Even being a fast spinner is outclassed by Great Tusk whose 300 speed is good enough and can actually live a ground move, as well as take advantage of the +1 speed rather than volt switching out instantly, and Cryogonal of all things due to its levitate
Hear me out the more of the recoil of Wild Charge(1% of recoil)should make it a higher chance of Paralysis(that means 1% of recoil=1%chance of Paralysis)
Iron Hands: These look like big strong hands, don't they? I always thought that's what they were. My OU presence...the meta pulled it right out of my hands. I failed.
Assault vest is my preferred set, but swords dance + Tera fly is insanely strong. You’re so naturally bulky and have amazing coverage that really rewards getting your turns right. It’s like a bulky nidoking from past gens, but a bit easier to use since you have the room for error due to the bulk. Another comparison could be to conkeldurr who is bulky yet insanely strong offensively. Those type of Pokémon tend to reward people who play it differently than people whose offense is Dragapult and just press Draco. One requires brain power, the other requires fingers 😂 Thought there is something to be said about ease of use for consistent performance with things like Pult. I just think people should not overlook bulky offense, it’s pretty under explored outside of the unaware demons and the few bulk up sets running around.
Man I'm so sad that Iron Hands has fallen so much, it's a genuinely cool and good pokemon, many games have been saved by him, and even vs great tusk he can destroy him in the long run with terra flying + swords dance and win the game.
Now he is probably gonna be even lower since he has fallen onto a tier that is ruled by a very well known psyquic warrior and his very sharp swords and cuts.
Not exactly. Iron Hands is both bulky and hard-hitting by UU standards, and is currently dominating the tier. In fact, many are calling for a ban on it.
Iron hands can Tera electric and fuck up gallade,hell it might not even need to Tera,because it’s so bulky,it will be banned very soon
Bro 154 and 108 defenses aren't dying to even a sharpness psycho cut
@@Squirtle_Squad_Supremacy And the tier's Queen is the Corviknight slayer tinkaton.
Honestly, I feel like Iron Hands is being overlooked despite facing stiff competition currently. SD sets are nice on specific Hyper Offense teams since Hands provides so much defensive utility for those kinds of squads while having no shortage of power, but I think what’ll ultimately keep it relevant enough to be viable in OU, if not letting it have a resurgence up here, is Band set on bulkier hazard stacking teams (i.e. paired with Tank Chomp).
Band gives me similar vibes to Melmetal, although Melm was obviously a LOT better last gen. It’s basically impossible to OHKO on the physical end and only a handful of extremely strong special attacks can OHKO it as well. And like Melmetal, it can punish pretty much anything in front of it just because of its amazing coverage and high damage output. Plus, it’s a rare physical attacker that isn’t utterly terrified of Dondozo.
I think Band’s best selling point is that it’s so good at forcing trades against almost everything except Defensive Great Tusk and special/mixed Iron Valiant. Now, that’s sadly a massive pair of exceptions, but that’s still a really interesting niche to have - and one that doesn’t necessarily require you to commit your Tera to it, either. If it gets in safely via an aggressive double switch, you’re the one with the advantage since your opponent has to play a messy prediction game against a mon that can 2HKO nearly everything in the game. Against some teams, that’s a question of *what* to sacrifice to it.
iron hands is simply not available for singles because he has been called upon for doubles as the best pokemon in vgc atm
IMO: Iron Hands matches up very well against offense structures because of its massive base stats that let it eat attacks and hit back hard in a huge amount of 1v1 matchups. Unfortunately, we've reached a much more balance-centric meta at this point, and in that type of meta, winning a 1v1 isn't really that important, because Balance teams are built to chip you down, not win clean 1v1s like a hyper offense team wants. The weakness of a Pokemon like Iron Hands is that it can't do what it does forever; even on a good day, it has to choose between giving up longevity with Close Combat and Wild Charge or power with Drain Punch and Thunder Punch, and there are a lot of Fighting resists around that don't even give it that. It's spikes-vulnerable, easy to put status on, and doesn't quite have the raw power to help compensate for those weaknesses.
It's far from unviable - it's a very consistent check to some of the tier's strongest offensive threats, like Chien Pao, Kingambit and Roaring Moon, and I think it would still be OU if Great Tusk wasn't such a problem, but that's not the world we live in. The sad thing is that as the game gets updated, we'll start to get more and more threatening fairy types that will match up well against Iron Hands, and unless Lando completely dethrones Great Tusk (which I don't think is too likely), I don't see its life getting much better.
Yeah, it’s really tough with Tusk sitting at what 50%? Now in usage
Where we are already by the iron paradox pokemon are i would love to See iron valiant next please
In nat dex ru i use vest iron hands and its pretty good,people dont expect it most of the time and accidentaly sac and important attacker
Do your videos apply to BSS? I think so, but there would be small variations, like I don't think Kingambit with Supreme Overlord makes sense in 3v3, but it's great for 6v6.
I don't think UU is healty with Iron-Hands around, I'm sure this Pokemon will get the same treatment as 4th generation Raikou that was a menace with Sub Calm Mind and stayed in UU/BL because of it. I think Hands will eventually become Borderline and stay that way for a very long time, if not permanently.
It could take on UU when HOME drops, bringing in Ursaluna. It'll likely drop to UU because of Great Tusk as well, which in turn will repeat Iron Hand's OU experience. That or the both of them just get UU/BL
@@emeraldmoon8393 you could be right, I also think that Ursaluna will not stay in OU with Tusk in every second team
Iron hands with obamasnow or rillaboom for reduced earthquake damage is excellent choice for belly drum sweep
Why do people use Swords Dance and not Sitrus Berry Belly Drum?
Great tusk overshadows its modern day counterpart and its future counter part who is greater than its modern counterpart.
Honestly, I’ve always felt that Iron Hands was a bit underwhelming. It does have great stats, but its low speed and unreliable electric stab made it seem really unappealing to me, and I always thought it was only supposed to be used on Trick Room teams because of its stat spread. Whenever I’ve had to use a slow powerful attacker in gen 9 OU, I picked Kingambit every time.
either this man dominates uu, or goes to uubl hell.
They really just need to make a better and a more widely distributed physical electric attack. Zing zap isn’t accessible for most electric types, Wild Charge is underwhelming and should honestly be equal to Volt Tackle, and Plasma Fist and Fusion Bolt are both exclusive to legendaries.
Sick Deus Ex thumbnail
why does iron hands get swords dance???? gamefreak is just handing this move out fr
I mean they have always just handed it out to random mons since red and blue, such as Vileploom and Victeerbell
nice vid
I almost never saw him in ladder all things considered. I've only played 84 matches though so meaby that's why.
Priority electric move when?
Tera raiding with Iron Hands is better then putting it at Competitive
To be fair, the Iron Hands were never the most popular legion/chapter. Ferrus Manus had such poor characterization through the Heresy and the legion was forgotten…..wait, wrong franchise
Well it just became highly popular in VGC so I would imagine it will have a resurgence in singles in the future
it won't unless chien pao gets banned.
And even then, once pokemon home is released, it'll probably be even worse.
VGC and smogon are 2 really different formats with 2 really different environments. In singles great tusk is everywhere and kingambit is a big competitor but in vgc, ground type Pokémon are not as popular and iron Hands has access to stuff like fake out and volt switch, which are way more reliable in VGC than singles and are stuff that kingambit doesn’t have.
What if iron hands got double shock
Iron hands was a fantastic Pokemon in the early meta game when great tusk wasn’t used very much,but with the banning of flutter mane,iron bundle and chi yu,great tusk got better and better and now,it’s used too much and hands has therefore fallen.however I trust like hippowdon it will return one day as Pokemon home arrives,and people slowly stop using great tusk as much,iron hands will come back to eat up every single hit under the sun
Great tusk is a beast,my goat is a fraud,at least my man won a world championship
i think
wild charge should be volt tackle.
that is all
Never used it on singles, in doubles, staple from first day, bull typing has rock slide fake out ...
He gotta put those hands into use
🤨📸
I think Banded Hands has merit over Kingambit and Tusk. Unfortunately there's the question of why would you use it when Banded Pao exists in the same tier and is insanely fast.
Oh its Magneton!
To summarize:
Great Tusk is what happened.
Interesting upload time...
The presence of Iron Hands in UU might just further drop Ttar…
As an iron hands, I can confirm that I suck.
Iron hands will come back when tusk and landorus are deleted. Can’t wait to play it in gen 27 PU!
I'm seeing so many vids about why Iron Hands is the best.
Strange
At least it absolutely packs teams up in convergence
Physical electric type.
A fate I wouldn’t wish in my worst enemy.
At least it seems pretty powerful in UU. It would be a bad look for the future Hariyama if he got demoted to Smogon's equivalent of Makushita.
Lol keep them coming
I think it will be too pressuring for uu, just look at those stats. Uu doesnt have a great tsuk to stop it
my favorite physical electric type is tapu koko
Give it plasma fists please this mon is too beastly to not have it.
Another reason why Bellibolt is the best electric type
You just got to get those EVs right. SD leftovers
Still my favorite future form
I find it stupid it doesnt get bulk up.
Also Kingambit is a comeback mon with its ability. Supreme Overlord is one of the most insane abilities every. Iron hands doesn’t have this comeback potential. Kingambit literally has Joker Arsene in smash LOL
Sounds like those hands...................................should have been made of steel instead.
Please Gamefreak just give it Mach Punch, I promise you won’t regret it
Because he isn't Iron Man.
I do think Iron Treads is still very good but is under utilized.
This is explained by ladder being dumb. This bad boy is melmetal on crack. Sure having a bad matchup against the most used mon in the tier is bad but so many pokemon lost to lando last gen but stayed in ou.
Least it’s great in VGC though
Bimothy Bool
it never was a good mon to use in OU. So many better mons to use, over a belly drumer who doesn't even have priority.
lron hand take on chien Pao
kingabit is useless too yet not in uu
Electivire 2.0
The mon sucks. People only used it because he was new.
*insert vgc joke here*
Iron hands is pretty busted in duos which is the only competitive pokemon that actually matters
Honestly I just hate these paradox forms. I wish they never existed.