While tpl was charming and I loved it as a child, the identity that the Jak series has now is really more of its own thing. Jak is how it is and I believe it's perfect the way it is. Kids grew up since the first game and a sequel that was more of the same really wouldn't have sold that well at that time in history. Naughty Dog made a good choice.
I love the series ultimately, but also feel like any deviation from the original game which was/is the popular/bestselling, was a total mistake. I always find myself wondering what would have become of the series if they hadn't tried to be more like GTA, and kept with the original game style and tone.
They didn't, though. The world has just evolved to use eco differently. It's most prevalent in Jak's morph gun mods; red eco creates a brutal force, yellow shoots fireballs, blue gives rapid motion, and dark is mass destruction. Green eco is in the health packs :)
@@domenik8339 I'd argue the opposite. Even though the first game was the best selling in the series, the game couldn't really find an audience and didn't really stick out compared to other platformers around the same time. Even the original creators admitted that the original game didn't really have it's own identity. Even though they did copy GTA's mature tone and and gameplay, it allowed them to tell a more mature story that stuck out more and allowed for deeper world building that helped the series find its own identity. Not to mention 3d platformers were being edged out around the same time so if it stuck to the same style, it probably wouldn't have sold as well as 2 did (which wasn't even that much less than the first game. That probably had more to do with the Teen rating than anything).
I wonder how many Jak II first-timers (coming from TPL) tried roll-jump attacking and were like "Huh? What?!" when it actually hurt them. Honestly I do think it's stylistically fitting for the more grounded and gritty tone of Jak II though. If you roll into someone with spikes in their armor you're gonna get hurt too, if not more.
@@riley5722 Imagine with a Open Goal PC Port of Jak II. Someone brings the eco features back into the normal gameplay of the game. The PC Port of TPL looks very good, can't wait for Jak II
Smart question. I did not think about that. I went back now, and it works indeed. The animations blend nicely. I will have do make a short follow-up video then... maybe also test jetboard.
@@LuminarLight oh I figured, but yeah once both are on that, moding and porting the missing shit for a the eco from 1 to 2 would be a comparative breeze I'd imagine. Also I've always wanted to be jak 2 jak with all his shit in the first game. Would be too cool
Jak II was great though. Honestly it was Jak III that sucked imo. I don't care that they copied GTA. People are so hung up on that. It was a fun game with interesting characters, an interesting atmosphere, and a good story.
Precursor Launcher with Dark Jak and Guns: th-cam.com/video/ZHeqvQzNeDs/w-d-xo.html
I would have liked to see a jak and daxter 2 more like tpl 😭
I'm happy with what we got.
While tpl was charming and I loved it as a child, the identity that the Jak series has now is really more of its own thing. Jak is how it is and I believe it's perfect the way it is. Kids grew up since the first game and a sequel that was more of the same really wouldn't have sold that well at that time in history. Naughty Dog made a good choice.
I love how the animation of Jak jumping will gaining eco is still there
It sucks how they completely scrapped the original ecos
I love the series ultimately, but also feel like any deviation from the original game which was/is the popular/bestselling, was a total mistake. I always find myself wondering what would have become of the series if they hadn't tried to be more like GTA, and kept with the original game style and tone.
They didn't, though. The world has just evolved to use eco differently. It's most prevalent in Jak's morph gun mods; red eco creates a brutal force, yellow shoots fireballs, blue gives rapid motion, and dark is mass destruction. Green eco is in the health packs :)
Wait I just realized you're Ruh. You know all this lololol
@@domenik8339 I'd argue the opposite. Even though the first game was the best selling in the series, the game couldn't really find an audience and didn't really stick out compared to other platformers around the same time. Even the original creators admitted that the original game didn't really have it's own identity.
Even though they did copy GTA's mature tone and and gameplay, it allowed them to tell a more mature story that stuck out more and allowed for deeper world building that helped the series find its own identity. Not to mention 3d platformers were being edged out around the same time so if it stuck to the same style, it probably wouldn't have sold as well as 2 did (which wasn't even that much less than the first game. That probably had more to do with the Teen rating than anything).
@@kadenprows8079 and dark eco has been repurposed as zoomer oil? The same dark eco that turned Daxter into a precursor... is now gasoline?
I love how Jak breaks his fingers just to strike a cool pose while jumping 🐛👍
I play all Jaks every 5 years since it came out. Its more than a game to me, its a part of me.
I love that the animation of Jak jumping in the launcher is the one from the back of the PS2 box art.
I wish Naughty Dog actually kept the mechanic for this game
I wish they kept the forward roll jump attack function! But yes, I wish all of the eco goodness stayed in the sequels.
I wonder how many Jak II first-timers (coming from TPL) tried roll-jump attacking and were like "Huh? What?!" when it actually hurt them.
Honestly I do think it's stylistically fitting for the more grounded and gritty tone of Jak II though. If you roll into someone with spikes in their armor you're gonna get hurt too, if not more.
@@riley5722 Imagine with a Open Goal PC Port of Jak II. Someone brings the eco features back into the normal gameplay of the game. The PC Port of TPL looks very good, can't wait for Jak II
@@riley5722 I have a feeling that would've been devastating when getting around Haven City
@@Dante_Sparda_DMC Jak the murderous bowling ball haha
Very interesting indeed! Another cool find and great video Luminar Light.
God i could come up with so many cool gameplay ideas and story ideas for a fan made jak continuation. I dont know how to do any of the work tho
Cool, good job
1:44 Cursed Jak and Daxter
This is so cool! I hope you can add some mods to this like giving it the sfx of blue eco!
There are no modding tools, so anything requires extremely huge effort.
I thought blue ego in Jak 2 would’ve break creates just like TPL I want to know why it won’t break with blue ego?
This is over a year after TPL. They probably changed some stuff.
Huh neat
That's what I'm saying
Can you fire weapons while using the launcher?
Smart question. I did not think about that. I went back now, and it works indeed. The animations blend nicely. I will have do make a short follow-up video then... maybe also test jetboard.
@@LuminarLight Dark Jak?
Yeah yeah... I will check everything... 🙂
Part 2 is finally here: th-cam.com/video/ZHeqvQzNeDs/w-d-xo.html
Holy cow! I am losing my sh*t once again!
man once 2 is in opengoal along with one................ the things we will be able to do
This video is fully unrelated to OpenGOAL. But indeed it will unlock some more possibilities.
@@LuminarLight oh I figured, but yeah once both are on that, moding and porting the missing shit for a the eco from 1 to 2 would be a comparative breeze I'd imagine. Also I've always wanted to be jak 2 jak with all his shit in the first game. Would be too cool
@@FFVII95 Would certainly not be easy, code does not work like that. But at least it would not be impossible.
@@LuminarLight I always heard 2 reused alot of 1's code?
Yes but you can't just copy-paste code. Code does not work like that. It will need a lot of cleanup and manual work.
Bump
what is the first song called? its like a remix or something?
It is a pre-console mix of Pumping Station music.
@@LuminarLight is it on youtube?
Probably somewhere. Official soundtrack, limited run games, these keywords may help.
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In comparison to TPL, how long do you think it will take to clean up Jak II?
What do you mean by this?
@@LuminarLight he probably means how long it would take to decompile Jak 2, like Jak and Daxter was with Open Goal.
I am not working on the project, so I have no idea. I heard rumours that it may take around a year?
Finally a breakdown, date by date, on how Naughty Dog decided to make their sequel game less interesting as they created it.
Truer facts have not been spoken. They already had a winner. Trying to copy GTA was a mistake.
@@domenik8339 "You think Jak II is not a good game?"
"Yes, and I'm tired of pretending it is."
-the Joker
Jak II was great though. Honestly it was Jak III that sucked imo. I don't care that they copied GTA. People are so hung up on that. It was a fun game with interesting characters, an interesting atmosphere, and a good story.