Great respect for Mr. Kumazawa and Yamaha 🇯🇵 It’s quite possible that Yamaha simply is the worlds most popular brand in HiFi as well as music instruments and gears. Thanks Gene👍
I have one of the speaker greats, Infinity IRS, and have had many amps I just haven’t been happy with. European amps, American amps, famous designers, famous name brands. The Krells, Pass Labs and Mark Levinsons of the world. I have done a ton of upgrades from ladder dacs, to power isolation and conditioning tweaks to the point that there is not much more that I can do. I found an M-5000 deal, and I have to tell you, this thing beats out A-LOT of ultra high end amps. I’m talking stuff like Constellation Hercules etc. The sound stage blackness is very, very noticeable even when there is not much more to improve on a high end system. Very unusually quiet amp. I hate to sound like a typical audiophile broken record, but I rediscovered all my music again with this deep “black” background noise floor. Yes, other amps perform great, as does this amp, but it’s how quiet it is that really got me shocked. One of the reasons I looked into this amp was that I know about Yamaha being really good, but spectacularly underrated by the audiophile community, and secondly, the design philosophy. The pull-pull design is very unusual - and very special. Only 4 amps that I know use this. 2 of the 4 were designed by the late Bascom King, and the other 2 by Yamaha. There is an interview of Bascom where he talks about why pull-pull is superior to any other mosfet configuration. This is one the reason the M-5000 performs the way it does, and add to that the floating circuitry, plus all copper frame that acts as a ground reference, all adds up to why it is staggeringly more quiet than any other high end amp. The first amp to use this was the Yamaha B2, from which Bascom discovered Yamaha’s secret sauce. When I found out the M-5000 unarchived this very special design, I was curious to see what they could do with modern parts. I’m currently running BHK300 monoblocks for the top end to incorporate tube influence, and now the M-5000 uses the same design philosophy of pull-pull but is solid state all the way through for bottom end muscle. A combo made in heaven, and same design philosophy!! Could not be happier. Well done Yamaha!!
I'm one of those 80's Navy guys who bought Yamaha while in Japan. And I am actually listening to my A1000 Integrated amp right now. The only things I have done to the amp over the years is clean the pots and the relay. Sounds warm and full range with a streaming DAC as the front end.
that was very special to have an with a top main Japanese stereo designer .Seemingly, most of their main designers stay in the background unlike US stereo which has historically been well known individuals
great job as always. I like those 5000 speakers, almost no English reviews of the ns-3000 bookshelf's though. I would love to get your take on the ns3000 and 5000
Being an owner of yamaha a-s3200 and cd-s3000 I can confirm , these units sound like end game, BUT for "normal" sensitivity speakers, if you want to drive Magnepan speakers, you need more current that what the a-s3200 offers, I have my eyes on the M-5000 model ;)
A very experienced audio engineer told me that a fully differential design in audio is a solution for a problem that has not been an issue in (domestic) audio since the sixties. These amps don't measure better than other state-of-the-art equipment... I could not argue with that. I own a Yamaha A-S1100 and love it.
Differential circuits are always a superior circuit to its single ended equivalent. The audibility difference is another story with many factors. That said these Yamaha's measure among the best in linear amp design.
Thanks a lot for doing this, I think the M-5000 may be serious contender to the coolest audio product ever made, the design, the love going into the design, quality of components, it is even more beautiful inside than outside, WOW .... everything 😍🤩🥰😎❤ I really believe that wide bandwidth is vert advantageous, a wide bandwidth makes diffrerences into what we can hear within the audible passband!!!! I want them as monoblocks 😍 The C-5000 is wow too 😍
The big question is when will we see a CD-S5000 or maybe a UD-S5000? That would round out the whole series. If they did a separate phono like the HX-10000, that would be killer.
This is indicative of the quality of construction that is missing in audio components these days. Too few companies are willing to go to such extremes even though they are charging more for their gear than this. True effort like this is worth a listen and a possible purchase. Would like to see the review with the specs like your other videos hopefully later? These are worthy of that! How about it Gene?
I love this look. I might be biased since the first proper HiFi system I was gifted from my uncle was an old Yamaha stereo receiver in the same silver color from the 80's along with a pair of Jamo Power 250R (If my memory is correct) speakers. And I just think thought that combo was the coolest thing in the whole world and played loud with good sound (especially as a young teenager). I really wish I still had them so they could be on display in my basement. 🙂
I love seeing this technology trickle down from the Mecha-Godzilla project. This may not be enough to kill Godzilla, probably nothing can, but these could kill Gigan for sure! If he attack Yamaha with his stomach saw, they just fold over it like a book! Spike foot Ashibumi, then Pull Pull Jujitsu, Zanshin, and it’s game over beak-face. Amazing!
I've always wondered why Yamaha's 5000 series turntable featured her does not have any offset angle on its cartridge that I believe is usually around 22 degrees... The only turntable I know of that works this way...
Currently, I have three Yamaha Pro-Audio Amplifiers powering my home theater and have had one of the first Yamaha Dolby Prologic receivers back in the day. I love Yamaha and they will always be a brand in my rack. The P-Series of Pro-Audio, specifically the P3500S is what's driving my system coupled with Outlaw's 976 Pre-Pro is a perfect match. This line of amps ran for ten years and were very popular within its community. Extremely good sound and very good quality.
I run an old 75 Marantz 2325 and you don’t hear anything unless it’s playing a source, there is no hiss , nothing . Is it common for them to make noise at idle with volume up ?
Subjectively Gene, how much would you say this really hits different to you compared to say denon 3800 ... ? From someone who will never own this, just curious how much i really miss out on ... and would a high end headset be a viable alternative for music experience at maybe 1/3 -1/2 the price?
No AV receiver can compete with the quality of these separates. The M-5000 for example operates like an ideal voltage source doubling down with halving load impedance all the way down to 2 ohms. The noise/distortion is extremely low as well. Superb electronics. In our listening demo, this rig sounded great!
Really nice seeing the trim options on the headphone jack, the output controls, and all those impedance options on the phono. This is what I love about this type of gear, you have all the essential options right there at your fingertips on the front of the receiver. Not buried in some menu, or omitted for the purpose of cost-savings but disguised as minimalism. Easy access to a host of quality features, on a stylish gleaming silver faceplate. A great recipe!
Hey Gene, great review as always... That's simply engineering-art. But can u please ask Mr. Kumazawa about the horrible face-lift that ended as Cyclops design of the new AVR series (2020 >) & why YAMAHA did something like that ? 😕
great review. thank you . happy that the Speakers are made in JAPAN . but disappointed to learn that the Amp and Pre-Amp are made in Malaysia !. this is a deal breaker for me.... hate me all you can. but i think it's just NOT fair to pay more for less.
That thought crossed my mind as well when they showed the back of the amp. It was disappointing to see that they are made in Malaysia, as beautiful as these units are.
Macchine stupende,ma la differenza con il as3200 non era abissale,la differenza e nel preampli. ascoltate con lo stesso set up, ma diffusori diversi ho preferito as3200,❤con la differenza di costo ho preso una testina di fascia alta❤yamaha fotever❤
This is what Yamaha Need to do on their flagship Av Recievers... Than making Crap in Malaysia and they call it flagship with plastic cover and a lot of mistakes shift all flagship AvR shuld be made this whay in japan...$5000 to $7000 avr this kind of buld quality makes more sense!!!
The sad thing is, all the "high-end" audio stores in the area that I live in "poo-poo" anything from Yamaha despite how good they are in this product category. They think it is garbage. I can't afford anything shown here, but it is anything but garbage. I'd put it up against anything from anyone.
Nope, not really. If you look at what's gone into them in more detail and focus on those fine intricacies of every part that comprises those speakers, not really, they're actually underpriced compared to other maker's speakers that aren't even there in terms of build and quality yet cost sometimes 2-3 times more.
Actually NO. You know these speakers have lower distortion levels than the Focal Utopia floor stander that is worth 120.000 USD a pair right now???? So, for 1/6th of the price you get actually a better speaker at 108dB in the Yamaha. Honestly, if you have not listened to those speakers, do not speak. Those NS-5000 are ridiculous. Hard to decide between NS-5000 and JBL M2, really hard. Yamaha's are cheaper, so! The only reason why I do not have them is that I already have something close to, and I do not need to play that loud to benefit from the low distortion at high SPL.
@@BastianUllr Exactly. And you are right by stating these are 'ridiculously' good. Whoever listened to them was blown away, me included. If I had the money to play at that level, I'd snap a pair in no time.
I mean, the product quality definitely warrants the price. Blessed are those who can fork out that much money.
Great respect for Mr. Kumazawa and Yamaha 🇯🇵 It’s quite possible that Yamaha simply is the worlds most popular brand in HiFi as well as music instruments and gears. Thanks Gene👍
I been buying Yamaha products since the 80's, love them, great video.
Same here since 80's.
I could just look at the design of those for hours (both outside and inside). Great to have Yamaha going "back" with this no compromise design...
Coming back down to earth…. I’m waiting on your 2000A review.
Thanks
Yes I’m also waiting for the NR2000a bench test. I think I’m going you buy one 😃
Despite the astronomical prices, I wouldn't mind having that entire Yamaha setup.
Yeah for real! It’s a seriously impressive showing!
No doubt....
I have one of the speaker greats, Infinity IRS, and have had many amps I just haven’t been happy with. European amps, American amps, famous designers, famous name brands. The Krells, Pass Labs and Mark Levinsons of the world. I have done a ton of upgrades from ladder dacs, to power isolation and conditioning tweaks to the point that there is not much more that I can do. I found an M-5000 deal, and I have to tell you, this thing beats out A-LOT of ultra high end amps. I’m talking stuff like Constellation Hercules etc.
The sound stage blackness is very, very noticeable even when there is not much more to improve on a high end system. Very unusually quiet amp. I hate to sound like a typical audiophile broken record, but I rediscovered all my music again with this deep “black” background noise floor. Yes, other amps perform great, as does this amp, but it’s how quiet it is that really got me shocked.
One of the reasons I looked into this amp was that I know about Yamaha being really good, but spectacularly underrated by the audiophile community, and secondly, the design philosophy. The pull-pull design is very unusual - and very special. Only 4 amps that I know use this. 2 of the 4 were designed by the late Bascom King, and the other 2 by Yamaha. There is an interview of Bascom where he talks about why pull-pull is superior to any other mosfet configuration. This is one the reason the M-5000 performs the way it does, and add to that the floating circuitry, plus all copper frame that acts as a ground reference, all adds up to why it is staggeringly more quiet than any other high end amp. The first amp to use this was the Yamaha B2, from which Bascom discovered Yamaha’s secret sauce.
When I found out the M-5000 unarchived this very special design, I was curious to see what they could do with modern parts. I’m currently running BHK300 monoblocks for the top end to incorporate tube influence, and now the M-5000 uses the same design philosophy of pull-pull but is solid state all the way through for bottom end muscle. A combo made in heaven, and same design philosophy!! Could not be happier. Well done Yamaha!!
I'm one of those 80's Navy guys who bought Yamaha while in Japan. And I am actually listening to my A1000 Integrated amp right now. The only things I have done to the amp over the years is clean the pots and the relay. Sounds warm and full range with a streaming DAC as the front end.
Yamaha has stepped up their game in the past ten years. They are very nice. Beautiful a great sounding !
The internals on those pieces are simply jaw dropping!
that was very special to have an with a top main Japanese stereo designer .Seemingly, most of their main designers stay in the background unlike US stereo which has historically been well known individuals
I have a Yamaha A-S2200 integrated amplifier. Super quiet noise floor and great sound!
is it worth paying double the price for for the as-3200 , i can buy the as -2200 for 2.699€ and the as-3200 for 5.999€ tell me please
great job as always. I like those 5000 speakers, almost no English reviews of the ns-3000 bookshelf's though. I would love to get your take on the ns3000 and 5000
Being an owner of yamaha a-s3200 and cd-s3000 I can confirm , these units sound like end game, BUT for "normal" sensitivity speakers, if you want to drive Magnepan speakers, you need more current that what the a-s3200 offers, I have my eyes on the M-5000 model ;)
A very experienced audio engineer told me that a fully differential design in audio is a solution for a problem that has not been an issue in (domestic) audio since the sixties. These amps don't measure better than other state-of-the-art equipment...
I could not argue with that. I own a Yamaha A-S1100 and love it.
Differential circuits are always a superior circuit to its single ended equivalent. The audibility difference is another story with many factors. That said these Yamaha's measure among the best in linear amp design.
What a wonderful gest..!! Truly.
Is very beautiful ♥I love my Yamaha amp and speakers, they always make quality.
Thanks for the video to both of you.👍
Thanks a lot for doing this, I think the M-5000 may be serious contender to the coolest audio product ever made, the design, the love going into the design, quality of components, it is even more beautiful inside than outside, WOW .... everything 😍🤩🥰😎❤
I really believe that wide bandwidth is vert advantageous, a wide bandwidth makes diffrerences into what we can hear within the audible passband!!!!
I want them as monoblocks 😍
The C-5000 is wow too 😍
The internals look better than the exterior. I'd put a vented plexiglass on top to display all those pretty parts.
It should have a see through top it's gorgeous looking at the internals so beautifully made
I’m a Yamaha fanboy…I have Vintage 70s, Late 80s black stack MX series, and the newish RX A8A Home theatre receiver..so great..
My favorite audio brand.
It would be nice to have a similar high end quality dac to go with this line.
Beautiful pieces of craftsmanship.
My dream system. However I do think the power amp should look more rugged, without the VU, and pre-amp with the VU.
Those speakers are wonderfull herd them 4 or 5 times now. Always sound best with anything but Yamaha amps .
The big question is when will we see a CD-S5000 or maybe a UD-S5000? That would round out the whole series. If they did a separate phono like the HX-10000, that would be killer.
Great interview. I love Yamaha. The love started early DSPA 3090, RX z11, RX V1, etc. I can only hope to get 5000 series someday.
Hi...I have the 5000 system....would love to know what those interconnects are in the video...what type /geometry ...? Brand...thanks
This is indicative of the quality of construction that is missing in audio components these days. Too few companies are willing to go to such extremes even though they are charging more for their gear than this. True effort like this is worth a listen and a possible purchase. Would like to see the review with the specs like your other videos hopefully later? These are worthy of that! How about it Gene?
I will be bench testing their 2000 series receiver, which has similar design attributes to the 5000 series in a more compact and affordable package.
I love this look. I might be biased since the first proper HiFi system I was gifted from my uncle was an old Yamaha stereo receiver in the same silver color from the 80's along with a pair of Jamo Power 250R (If my memory is correct) speakers. And I just think thought that combo was the coolest thing in the whole world and played loud with good sound (especially as a young teenager). I really wish I still had them so they could be on display in my basement. 🙂
Is there any chance you're going to be posting measurements on this
They won't have it in for testing. However they managed to secure and borrow A-S2200 high-end stereo amp for detailed testing and review. Coming soon.
I have the AS-1200 you are giving away and just love it. It's very quiet so something must be working
Have you tried 2200....
@@jjinglenuts No, because I don't have any components with balanced inputs so I went with the one with only the RCA jacks.
@ttownscott man, you are missing all the fun without XLR. Upgrade if you can and enjoy Yamaha sound it will blow you away..
I love seeing this technology trickle down from the Mecha-Godzilla project. This may not be enough to kill Godzilla, probably nothing can, but these could kill Gigan for sure!
If he attack Yamaha with his stomach saw, they just fold over it like a book! Spike foot Ashibumi, then Pull Pull Jujitsu, Zanshin, and it’s game over beak-face. Amazing!
You guys have not made any mention of the AS3200 intergrated amp. Any upcoming thoughts or promotions?
Just wow... And Stranger Things fit nicely on the opening
Reminds me of my Mark Levinson at 98lbs. 100 wpc 8 ohms and down to 400 wpc at 2 ohms. Makes my Magnepan’s happily sing.
Great video. Tour de Force for Yamaha. Looking forward to reading the reviews.
I've always wondered why Yamaha's 5000 series turntable featured her does not have any offset angle on its cartridge that I believe is usually around 22 degrees... The only turntable I know of that works this way...
Currently, I have three Yamaha Pro-Audio Amplifiers powering my home theater and have had one of the first Yamaha Dolby Prologic receivers back in the day. I love Yamaha and they will always be a brand in my rack. The P-Series of Pro-Audio, specifically the P3500S is what's driving my system coupled with Outlaw's 976 Pre-Pro is a perfect match. This line of amps ran for ten years and were very popular within its community. Extremely good sound and very good quality.
Thank you for this stellar video.
Thanks so much for all the information
Superb
Pls any real measurments of this yamaha M5000? Whats the real power, when bi amping two of these ?
So these are Class A/B? How many watts is biased in class A?
I run an old 75 Marantz 2325 and you don’t hear anything unless it’s playing a source, there is no hiss , nothing . Is it common for them to make noise at idle with volume up ?
we cant hear over 20k so why higher bandwidth
Subjectively Gene, how much would you say this really hits different to you compared to say denon 3800 ... ? From someone who will never own this, just curious how much i really miss out on ... and would a high end headset be a viable alternative for music experience at maybe 1/3 -1/2 the price?
No AV receiver can compete with the quality of these separates. The M-5000 for example operates like an ideal voltage source doubling down with halving load impedance all the way down to 2 ohms. The noise/distortion is extremely low as well. Superb electronics. In our listening demo, this rig sounded great!
Really nice seeing the trim options on the headphone jack, the output controls, and all those impedance options on the phono.
This is what I love about this type of gear, you have all the essential options right there at your fingertips on the front of the receiver.
Not buried in some menu, or omitted for the purpose of cost-savings but disguised as minimalism.
Easy access to a host of quality features, on a stylish gleaming silver faceplate. A great recipe!
Hey Gene, great review as always... That's simply engineering-art.
But can u please ask Mr. Kumazawa about the horrible face-lift that ended as Cyclops design of the new AVR series (2020 >) & why YAMAHA did something like that ? 😕
Mr. Kumazawa is Yamaha Hi-Fi not their AVR division. But, they know my views in their aesthetics changes, trust me 😉
I really like the way the new Yamaha AVRs look.
great review. thank you .
happy that the Speakers are made in JAPAN . but disappointed to learn that the Amp and Pre-Amp are made in Malaysia !. this is a deal breaker for me.... hate me all you can. but i think it's just NOT fair to pay more for less.
That thought crossed my mind as well when they showed the back of the amp. It was disappointing to see that they are made in Malaysia, as beautiful as these units are.
I'd buy this set when I win the lottery!
Macchine stupende,ma la differenza con il as3200 non era abissale,la differenza e nel preampli.
ascoltate con lo stesso set up, ma diffusori diversi ho preferito as3200,❤con la differenza di costo ho preso una testina di fascia alta❤yamaha fotever❤
Thanks
I hope at least at that price during made in Japan lots of stuff now is made in China do Yamaha integrated amp I have is made in Japan
A Dream 🥰🥰
🍺👍🫡.... Yamaha... !
This is what Yamaha Need to do on their flagship Av Recievers...
Than making Crap in Malaysia and they call it flagship with plastic cover and a lot of mistakes shift all
flagship AvR shuld be made this whay in japan...$5000 to $7000 avr this kind of buld quality makes more sense!!!
The sad thing is, all the "high-end" audio stores in the area that I live in "poo-poo" anything from Yamaha despite how good they are in this product category. They think it is garbage. I can't afford anything shown here, but it is anything but garbage. I'd put it up against anything from anyone.
I doubt that this is unbiased. Looks more like an advertisement.
The speakers are way over priced.
Yes, 15k is alot ...That's why I had to make diy speakers for my 5000 rig.
Nope, not really. If you look at what's gone into them in more detail and focus on those fine intricacies of every part that comprises those speakers, not really, they're actually underpriced compared to other maker's speakers that aren't even there in terms of build and quality yet cost sometimes 2-3 times more.
So are lots of cars
Actually NO. You know these speakers have lower distortion levels than the Focal Utopia floor stander that is worth 120.000 USD a pair right now????
So, for 1/6th of the price you get actually a better speaker at 108dB in the Yamaha. Honestly, if you have not listened to those speakers, do not speak.
Those NS-5000 are ridiculous. Hard to decide between NS-5000 and JBL M2, really hard. Yamaha's are cheaper, so!
The only reason why I do not have them is that I already have something close to, and I do not need to play that loud to benefit from the low distortion at high SPL.
@@BastianUllr Exactly. And you are right by stating these are 'ridiculously' good. Whoever listened to them was blown away, me included. If I had the money to play at that level, I'd snap a pair in no time.
Yamaha has everything you want 🗾🎹🎸🎹🎹🛵🎹🎧🪗🎺🎷🎌🎶🎵🎤🔊🎹