Looks really good with the straight axles. Color of your Jeep is just awesome. And if a person can drive and choose the right lines it won’t be an issue. 👍
Yes, meaning the length of the cut in the gear from center to outer dia. Is at an angle (simple terms) matching the arc or the helical design. All three things, the bevel, helical and hypoid are not easy to achieve. People will find it important to shim these diffs over time and break in is a real thing now.
@@ryano8613 Owning a 10ii sure taught me a lot about shims LOL. Including the fact that after a while there's only so much shimming you can do, and you must replace the stock sintered gears with machined hardened steel.
Thanks for the video Greg. After some debate, I decided now was the time to pick up a 10iii, with the intention of doing the standard axle swap. I usually prefer an RTR over a kit, but doing this swap on an RTR will give me a bit (but not too much) of wrenching time to amuse me on a dark winter night. I intend to sell the portals to subsidize the cost.
I'm Glad they have brought this out, I was expecting to see a straight axle full truck kit or rtr, I'm thinking of trying it on stock shocks with smaller tires.
they should do a gladiator/wrangler kit with the straight axles and sell it for like 200 bucks because im tired of how ridiculously expensive axial crawlers are getting
I going to get the kit to finish my poor-man's Vanquish VS 4-10 pro ( using the Vanquish chassis kit and Vanquish plastic low center transmission. This is the plastic Vanquish VS 410 Pro kit that Vanquish should be selling ! Thank-you Axial
I know it's older but I just found this video....looks like it helped for sure..... were you still running the two speed transmission did you change the pinion gear or does the kit come with a new one.....thanks for the info!
To me portal axles accomplish the exact same thing as running taller tires; they give you more clearance under the pumpkin, at the sacrifice of a higher CG, including unsprung weight. It seems to me taller tires will get you in the exact same place, but without the extra parts to break, and a better approach angle. I would assume the higher clearance under the axles would be better for a pile of rocks, but when you get out on the side of a mountain, doing near vertical climbs, and a lot of side hilling, you want to keep everything as low as possible. I just find it humorous people are going back to the the straight axles. I’ve been running the original SCX10 TR, the one that came with the classic truck body, and Proline tires. I was afraid it was getting outdated, but I took it out recently, and it’s still dialed.
Freakin awesome mi bro luv the vid and the straight axles 2 questions what tires do you have in those tires and where is that spot where you were crawlin?? 👍👊
Great video. I love the portal axles on my trucks. It's like you built a mod jeep. The straight axles are nice though. They should offer both kits with either axle for your choosing.
Hi, RC DRIVER ! 🙂 - Now that we have a different "gearing" behind the motor, will we see an improvement in the "1st to 2nd gear-spread", or no ? - Stock trans. gearing was too close together for some/most, so will this help, with the portals being gone as well ?? - Please & thanx ! 👍
Why aren’t they worth the hype? There great, you get a lot more pumpkin clearance. And cost? They come with the kit/RTR, your not spending $170 extra like you are with the solid axle conversion kit.
@@jacobcvpi8279 SCX10-3 with solid axles is silly. The DIG function is pointless and most people don’t use it. The transmission is also pointless because the difference between gears is barely noticeable. At that point I’d just get an SCX10-2 (which I did after the SCX10-3 came out). The TRX4 makes more sense as the locking/unlocking diffs are useful and the difference between high and low gears is much more noticeable.
YES....!!! - NOW, it moves & looks like an actual AXIAL !! - Almost like my SCX10 II !! 🤘👍 😁 Yes, of course the flex & articulation of the sus- pension is increased because of the amount of room for this, and you actually get a better planted "side-bite" with a more direct leverage on the side of the axle with the lower tire, when it meets the ground, or rock. - With portals, you get a funny, almost tippy feeling because of the "over-leveraged" physics of the (L) -shaped angle produced by the portal (risen) axle(s). It is simply weight, leverage, physics, and tipping-point. - Which with a low-swung tire (angle) on it's side-wall already, (w/portals) creates a more drastic than desired sideways force. Possibly causing your SCX10 III, or (EX.) Traxxas TRX4 to be quite a bit more likely to side-roll, down hill. 😉 Any vehicle with portals runs a higher risk of off-centering it's balance, versus the small or great benefit of having (axle & diff.-housing)-clearance. 🤔 - So, now that owners & buyers have the option with this AXIAL SCX10 III, portal or straight -axle, leaves it up to you ! 🤔 Instead of when AXIAL (originally) came out with the 10.3 Portal version first, there was no option/choice ! But now you can have the best of both styles & purposes, built specifically for this great vehicle !! 👍👍.....😁 - GO AXIAL !! 🤘 🇺🇲 - Happy Trails ! ✌️
@@rcdriver thanks Greg I've been looking around aftermarket support and Axial & rc4wd have kits from CNC, vanquish ext. I wonder if the gen7 straight axels will fit gen8 v2 without a lot of fab
@@TimrcintheworksonInstagram it would take a little doing but u can make anything work in the scale world. If I were to do this I would convert the gen8 to 4 link and axle mount the servo. In that case it would be a breeze.
Hi there, what is the turning angle on the straight axles? And why did you change the shocks with the shocks of the kit, cant you use the shocks that comes with the rig?
Been going through your videos like crack. I am interested in getting a basher, but I don't want an RTR. I want to build one with my 12 year old. Do they make a non-RTR basher kit? I see other non-RTR kits, but they are intended more for racing. I want something that can take a beating.
The thing I dislike most about portals are the steering Ackerman due to the king pin point being far inside wheels. Its like having giant Junfac spacers back in the day when nobody understood the importance of suspension and steering geometry and couldn't figure out why it under-steer so bad and pushed so the cure was OD gears which is just so wrong. I hate hate hate my gen8 it's a pile and wish I got the scx.
I was literally filming the next SMT10 project video when this kit landed on my doorstep. Of course I got side tracked by the shiny new thing. The MT is back on my bench now. Should be soon.
I mean I get it, scale guys need accuracy for some rigs. I know its a preference thing. But it just seems pointless to go backwards lol. Portals are freakin awesome. You want straight axle? Buy the SCX10ii.
Right! If you want performance you go with the portals. I love scale vehicles just like the next guy. These straight axles would be just a downgrade to my truck. If we are talking scale Axial should get the wheel bolt pattern right as well. Wait! I like the current bolt pattern on my stock wheels, which are holding down my workbench. 👍🏾
Non-RC owner: noice RC! What’d you do to it? RC owner: I changed out the motor, axles, gearing, links, esc, battery and steering servo. Non-RC owner: dang you went all out! RC owner: nah! Other than that, it’s mostly stock!
I could be wrong I have been before, but my humble opinion would be the people who purchased the all New designed SCX10-III bought it specifically for the Portals. personally I wouldn't buy anything New if it wasn't what I wanted, so I couldn't imagine people buying the Newely designed Scx10iii for $500.00 dollars then turn around & drop another $2 hun plus on axial's new straight axles. Id imagine anyone with an oz of sense that doesn't want Portals would either buy the Scx10ii or wait & see if they make a 3 factory ready with straight axles... 👍🏼
Some people just have to have it I guess. I tried to get some info if these axles would be in a rig, but didn’t get a real response. If they do have something coming, it could be months. Some people might not want to take the wait and see approach.
Exactly. I bought a SCX10-2 a month after the SCX10-3 came out. Planning on getting a regular TRX4 because the alt functions (transmission and differential control) actually do something. The transmission in the SCX10-3 is pointless. The difference between speeds is tiny. On the TRX4 it’s noticeable. The DIG function in SCx10-3 isn’t that useful. Locking diffs on TRX4 is useful and makes sense with the higher gear. The SCX10-3 just doesn’t click as a purchase for me. If someone is looking for portals why not just get the TRX4?
I agree. I'm really hesitant to buy a 10iii right now if my end goal is straight axles. I've been waiting for straight axles since the release of the 10iii. It's been a little while, and now I'm looking at waiting another few months before they combine the straight axles with a kit or RTR. Will my patience hold up? I'd really like to get a new rig in the next month or two, but the cost of a 10iii with portals + the straight axle kit is too much.
I don't like portals because they don't offer the same challenge you would have in the 1/1 world. I like having to think about my tire placement in order to avoid hanging up my pumpkin. It feels more real driving a standard axle rig.
If you’re just trailing the portals are probably for you. But if you’re trying to become king of the local rock, then straight axles will give your truck the lower center of gravity it will need. All depends on what you’re trying to accomplish, and how you want to look doing it 😎
@@BlueDually4x4 No he doesn't mean that type of commercial what hes saying without trying to be rude is that this entire channel is sponsor driven so good luck getting the truth.. Nobodys gonna talk down on the very people who sponsors there channel.. Thats what he's saying nicely
Cant wait for the influx of 2nd hand scx10iii portal axles! 😎👌
Possibly, I’m looking at the pile of portal axle parts and thinking about what I can build with them. 😁
Freddie goes Wild maybe, or people will just throw them on another build because there so capable. Im hoping right along side you bro
Really great idea for the realism. Always love your videos and information you provide. Helps make decisions at times
Looks really good with the straight axles. Color of your Jeep is just awesome. And if a person can drive and choose the right lines it won’t be an issue. 👍
Thanks! Love helping fellow RC enthusiasts!
Great review. Note: Not just helical but hypoid ring and pinion. 👍 2:32
Yes, meaning the length of the cut in the gear from center to outer dia. Is at an angle (simple terms) matching the arc or the helical design. All three things, the bevel, helical and hypoid are not easy to achieve. People will find it important to shim these diffs over time and break in is a real thing now.
@@ryano8613 Owning a 10ii sure taught me a lot about shims LOL. Including the fact that after a while there's only so much shimming you can do, and you must replace the stock sintered gears with machined hardened steel.
Now it's a proper Jeep!!
Thanks for the video Greg. After some debate, I decided now was the time to pick up a 10iii, with the intention of doing the standard axle swap. I usually prefer an RTR over a kit, but doing this swap on an RTR will give me a bit (but not too much) of wrenching time to amuse me on a dark winter night. I intend to sell the portals to subsidize the cost.
I'm Glad they have brought this out, I was expecting to see a straight axle full truck kit or rtr, I'm thinking of trying it on stock shocks with smaller tires.
what size are the stock SCX10-III shocks?
@@ConditionZero76 90mm
they should do a gladiator/wrangler kit with the straight axles and sell it for like 200 bucks because im tired of how ridiculously expensive axial crawlers are getting
I going to get the kit to finish my poor-man's Vanquish VS 4-10 pro ( using the Vanquish chassis kit and Vanquish plastic low center transmission. This is the plastic Vanquish VS 410 Pro kit that Vanquish should be selling ! Thank-you Axial
Awesome!!! I've been waiting for this.
Ok next Portalaxel kit! And Capra Axelkit !!!
Wonder if these will fit under an scx10.2
I know it's older but I just found this video....looks like it helped for sure..... were you still running the two speed transmission did you change the pinion gear or does the kit come with a new one.....thanks for the info!
To me portal axles accomplish the exact same thing as running taller tires; they give you more clearance under the pumpkin, at the sacrifice of a higher CG, including unsprung weight. It seems to me taller tires will get you in the exact same place, but without the extra parts to break, and a better approach angle. I would assume the higher clearance under the axles would be better for a pile of rocks, but when you get out on the side of a mountain, doing near vertical climbs, and a lot of side hilling, you want to keep everything as low as possible.
I just find it humorous people are going back to the the straight axles. I’ve been running the original SCX10 TR, the one that came with the classic truck body, and Proline tires. I was afraid it was getting outdated, but I took it out recently, and it’s still dialed.
Freakin awesome mi bro luv the vid and the straight axles 2 questions what tires do you have in those tires and where is that spot where you were crawlin??
👍👊
Pretty sweet 👍 God bless take care stay safe
Great video. I love the portal axles on my trucks. It's like you built a mod jeep. The straight axles are nice though. They should offer both kits with either axle for your choosing.
Hi, RC DRIVER ! 🙂 - Now that we have a different "gearing" behind the motor, will we see an improvement in the "1st to 2nd gear-spread", or no ? - Stock trans. gearing was too close together for some/most, so will this help, with the portals being gone as well ?? - Please & thanx ! 👍
Look easier to buy a SCX II and upgrade that to a SCX III? ( or just keep the SCX II as it is)
How about torque twist? I had heard and seen videos that straight axles really emphasis torque twist with the TRX4.
Yeah it's not the best, I'm going to gear down the axles in my builders kit
Portals are it for me.
Definitely a need on that one.
Up grades for the builders #1
Hi, great ride video. Is it slow motion or real speed? It's very realistic.
Thank you.
They should offer a rig with out portals as the portals aren't worth the cost or hype.
They do it’s called the SCX10-2
@@Guy-em4ck don’t be a smart ass. It’s called a SCX10.3 kit/RTR with solid axles.
Why aren’t they worth the hype? There great, you get a lot more pumpkin clearance. And cost? They come with the kit/RTR, your not spending $170 extra like you are with the solid axle conversion kit.
@@jacobcvpi8279 SCX10-3 with solid axles is silly. The DIG function is pointless and most people don’t use it. The transmission is also pointless because the difference between gears is barely noticeable. At that point I’d just get an SCX10-2 (which I did after the SCX10-3 came out). The TRX4 makes more sense as the locking/unlocking diffs are useful and the difference between high and low gears is much more noticeable.
@@Guy-em4ck agreed. Dig is just stupid, the split rail frame is dumb, and the motor cover is pointless too. I would put a TRX4 trans in if I had one.
Looks cool. I'd just keep the stock shocks.
Its even boxed like a Christmas gift LOL!
They should do a 6x6 conversion kit like this
Do these axles come stock with 6bolt lockers
YES....!!! - NOW, it moves & looks like an actual AXIAL !! - Almost like my SCX10 II !! 🤘👍 😁 Yes, of course the flex & articulation of the sus- pension is increased because of the amount of room for this, and you actually get a better planted "side-bite" with a more direct leverage on the side of the axle with the lower tire, when it meets the ground, or rock.
- With portals, you get a funny, almost tippy feeling because of the "over-leveraged" physics of the (L) -shaped angle produced by the portal (risen) axle(s). It is simply weight, leverage, physics, and tipping-point. - Which with a low-swung tire (angle) on it's side-wall already, (w/portals) creates a more drastic than desired sideways force. Possibly causing your SCX10 III, or (EX.) Traxxas TRX4 to be quite a bit more likely to side-roll, down hill. 😉 Any vehicle with portals runs a higher risk of off-centering it's balance, versus the small or great benefit of having
(axle & diff.-housing)-clearance. 🤔
- So, now that owners & buyers have the option with this AXIAL SCX10 III,
portal or straight -axle, leaves it up to you ! 🤔 Instead of when AXIAL (originally) came out with the 10.3
Portal version first, there was no option/choice ! But now you can have the best of both styles & purposes, built specifically for this great vehicle !! 👍👍.....😁
- GO AXIAL !! 🤘 🇺🇲 - Happy Trails ! ✌️
Great tutorial Greg hey does Redcat make a straight Axel kit for the gen8 v2?
I don’t believe so. I know they have a portal set to go on their straight axle Gen7, but thats it.
@@rcdriver thanks Greg I've been looking around aftermarket support and Axial & rc4wd have kits from CNC, vanquish ext. I wonder if the gen7 straight axels will fit gen8 v2 without a lot of fab
@@TimrcintheworksonInstagram it would take a little doing but u can make anything work in the scale world. If I were to do this I would convert the gen8 to 4 link and axle mount the servo. In that case it would be a breeze.
@@ryano8613 I'm going the axial scx10 ii raw builder's kit route I wanted forward motor/trany mount butt oh well
Hi there, what is the turning angle on the straight axles? And why did you change the shocks with the shocks of the kit, cant you use the shocks that comes with the rig?
Quinten Beets - swapping from portal to straight axles changes your height, so they call for different length shocks....👍🏼
Can this work on a Gen 8 Scout Axe edition?
Been going through your videos like crack. I am interested in getting a basher, but I don't want an RTR. I want to build one with my 12 year old. Do they make a non-RTR basher kit? I see other non-RTR kits, but they are intended more for racing. I want something that can take a beating.
take a shot everytime he says axle 😂
could these work on the original scx10? Do they provide better steering?
Should work. I'm gonna put a set under a 10.2 which is basically same as og chassis.
is torque twist worse?
Should be able to see the axle flex now. Dont like that you can’t see the portal axles very good.
Greg, do you ever sell the take off parts from builds ?
No, I’m an RC hoarder. I have bins of parts. They always come in handy at some point.
@@rcdriver I had to ask, I do a bit of hoarding myself
that's pretty sweet brother, now you have to install the old portal's on your wraith 1.9 and see how that works....hint,hint!!
😮
That's nice
The thing I dislike most about portals are the steering Ackerman due to the king pin point being far inside wheels. Its like having giant Junfac spacers back in the day when nobody understood the importance of suspension and steering geometry and couldn't figure out why it under-steer so bad and pushed so the cure was OD gears which is just so wrong. I hate hate hate my gen8 it's a pile and wish I got the scx.
Now that looks like a jeep. Portals 8 more gears to fail. Portals only belong on unimogs.
When’s the smt10 project gonna get finished?
I was literally filming the next SMT10 project video when this kit landed on my doorstep. Of course I got side tracked by the shiny new thing. The MT is back on my bench now. Should be soon.
Anyone know if this will also work on a OG scx10 honcho ??
I mean I get it, scale guys need accuracy for some rigs. I know its a preference thing. But it just seems pointless to go backwards lol. Portals are freakin awesome. You want straight axle? Buy the SCX10ii.
Right! If you want performance you go with the portals. I love scale vehicles just like the next guy. These straight axles would be just a downgrade to my truck. If we are talking scale Axial should get the wheel bolt pattern right as well. Wait! I like the current bolt pattern on my stock wheels, which are holding down my workbench. 👍🏾
Non-RC owner: noice RC! What’d you do to it?
RC owner: I changed out the motor, axles, gearing, links, esc, battery and steering servo.
Non-RC owner: dang you went all out!
RC owner: nah! Other than that, it’s mostly stock!
Wait for a scx lll raw builders kit.
They already said that will never come out
Where can you get the ar45 axle set at
Link in the video description.
I could be wrong I have been before, but my humble opinion would be the people who purchased the all New designed SCX10-III bought it specifically for the Portals. personally I wouldn't buy anything New if it wasn't what I wanted, so I couldn't imagine people buying the Newely designed Scx10iii for $500.00 dollars then turn around & drop another $2 hun plus on axial's new straight axles. Id imagine anyone with an oz of sense that doesn't want Portals would either buy the Scx10ii or wait & see if they make a 3 factory ready with straight axles... 👍🏼
Some people just have to have it I guess. I tried to get some info if these axles would be in a rig, but didn’t get a real response. If they do have something coming, it could be months. Some people might not want to take the wait and see approach.
Exactly. I bought a SCX10-2 a month after the SCX10-3 came out. Planning on getting a regular TRX4 because the alt functions (transmission and differential control) actually do something. The transmission in the SCX10-3 is pointless. The difference between speeds is tiny. On the TRX4 it’s noticeable. The DIG function in SCx10-3 isn’t that useful. Locking diffs on TRX4 is useful and makes sense with the higher gear. The SCX10-3 just doesn’t click as a purchase for me. If someone is looking for portals why not just get the TRX4?
I agree. I'm really hesitant to buy a 10iii right now if my end goal is straight axles. I've been waiting for straight axles since the release of the 10iii. It's been a little while, and now I'm looking at waiting another few months before they combine the straight axles with a kit or RTR. Will my patience hold up? I'd really like to get a new rig in the next month or two, but the cost of a 10iii with portals + the straight axle kit is too much.
@@RyanRKJ yeah I’d wait
I don't like portals because they don't offer the same challenge you would have in the 1/1 world. I like having to think about my tire placement in order to avoid hanging up my pumpkin. It feels more real driving a standard axle rig.
Is it a Up grade or a down Grade
I hope traxxas does this with a wider option
👍 👍 👍
I would buy it but not for a SCX10.3, more like for a belly dragger rig !!!
Nearly $200 after tax for less performance? No thanks. It may look more scale, but function over form for me.
Yeah other way would make more sense portals should have been upgrade
Depends, how much money do people spend on brass to get the portal axle rigs to be less top heavy and stop them from flopping over constantly.
lower cog more important than clearance
If you’re just trailing the portals are probably for you. But if you’re trying to become king of the local rock, then straight axles will give your truck the lower center of gravity it will need. All depends on what you’re trying to accomplish, and how you want to look doing it 😎
So you can now pay a huge chunk of change to make your shiny new scx10 III worse? Is it April Fools again?
Not everyone likes portals
I truly don’t get it. Why would you want to remove more than half of the capability of your expensive crawler by deleting the portals.
I like this channel and will continue to watch, but there’s undoubtedly a shill vibe in some videos. More commercial than content sometimes.
That is sort of what a review is, a commercial from a different point of view.
@@BlueDually4x4 No he doesn't mean that type of commercial what hes saying without trying to be rude is that this entire channel is sponsor driven so good luck getting the truth.. Nobodys gonna talk down on the very people who sponsors there channel.. Thats what he's saying nicely
You can send me the portals if you want 😉
WTF is the point of the standard axles? You might as well stick with the scx10.2 chassis, SMH .