I’ve always interpreted the car’s explanation of his drink as a description of petrol - or, to be more accurate, oil. “A liquid forged deep underground from the remains of ancient ones” is exactly how I could imagine someone explaining what oil is. It’s made from plant matter and animal remains from long ago, placed under extreme heat and pressure within the earth.
...and oil/fossil fuels also create electricity without which these characters could not exist! (Nor would I be able to publicly theorise about them via this comment!! 😉) Also, red guy is often pulling out electrical cords then in the car he messes up the petrol by using raisins. He is also the only one that is not a puppet. Hmmm! 🤔
The Image of Roy, mumbling "yum, yum" ominously,...walking out of frame,...then screaming "YUM YUM YUM"(vocal fry and all) while blood and sinew splatter against the still closing door...is hands down my favorite moment in DHMIS. Period.
I just realized the whole thing with Yellow Guy and the batteries is a lot like the book “Flowers For Algernon” (idk if I spelled that correctly). He learned enough to realize that he had been unaware of the world around him, then had it stripped away in front of his eyes leaving him feeling vaguely empty without being able to process why
@Expanding Uranus Thanks for keeping things on-topic :) Also not sure where you are but I was in eighth grade not too long ago and we read that book in full
In Episode 5, I think the stange black liquid that the Car Man was drinking was supposed to be a joke about oil. The reason he says the gang can't make it because "it was forged under the Earth by the ancient ones" is because oil is literally made underground by the remains of ancient animals.
yeah i was thinking that too lol. surprised it was never mentioned here. though, i suppose that doesn't inherently mean that the ancient ones the lamp mentioned aren't _also_ dinosaurs and other ancient animals.
For me the appeal of the episode with Warren the eagle, is that we ALL know someone who's just like Warren, he embodies the most relatable aspects of hanging out with an asshole who tries to be your friend for his own benefit or ego, which makes it more satisfying to see him getting roasted and every other character acknowledging how much he sucks
I also loved how he captured the energy of those old anti-bullying campaigns. “Okay, stop” is *exactly* the sort of shit they would have shown us on the projectors at my old primary school, and *exactly* the sort of shit we would have immediately started taking the piss out of in the playground. It does a pretty good job of showing how irritating and ineffectual those anti-bullying programs were.
exactly, I feel like the whole point of the episode was to feel like he was an annoying "friend" who made everything about him, he wasn't even with the ok stop anymore and is just intruding to feel better about himself
@@friendlyfriend2587 Isn't it Ironic that the anti-bullying ad parody, actually became a very accurate representation of toxic behaviors to watch out for?
It's also ironic because Warren has the best lessons of all the teachers. The other teachers' lessons were done with ulterior-motives. Warren's lessons were more positive, don't be bad to your friends. The issue being Warren is a bad friend without any self-awareness.
I do have to say I adore that the trio of DHMIS is canonically called a Clump, they’re just this strange little collection of toys who have to all be played with together to tell stories or make the lessons work.
I love the sound of that as well. In fact in many ways, all characters from across several forms of fiction (including "Don't Hug Me I'm Scared" of course) are all pretty much like toys to play around with (most especially through fan works where you can basically do pretty much whatever you want with them, through the power of your vast imagination).
This was a journey. My friend showed me this series maybe 6 years ago? She didn’t make it to 2021. The world wasn’t prepared for her eccentric brilliance, and she was endlessly lonely for that. The meta frustrations expressed by the artists reflect her struggle so vividly. Truly high art.
I liked when Lesley said “You’re not my real son!” I feel it added to the strangeness of her character. The sudden piano bang and harsh vocal shift made her come off as very intimidating, making her seem unhinged as she quickly shifts tones. You can say it is too direct but I don’t mind that, in fact, it could serve as an experiment. A lot of people think the case is cut and dry but seeing how a show can twist something in a way that makes sense but was also unpredictable and thinks outside the box in a way only the creators can is always fascinating to me. I really feel her character wouldn’t have impacted myself and others as hard without that scene. This series is more than just lore after all, and to ignore that closes out some interesting possibilities the creators may wish to explore.
I agree, the character of Lesley was quite impactful. The "lore implications" are not the focus here, it's the emotional crescendo of the series. The scene hits me with a message of: stop thinking about it, feel something. Both directed at YG but also the audience considering we are sharing YG's perspective. It's frightening for YG; the scene is disturbing, the character is being berated again for seeking answers. From a different perspective, it's funny; It's a grown woman yelling at a puppet! This additional perspective, the meta-narrative/context, also changes the character of Lesley. In universe, she seems to represent a god-like entity compared to YG. She represents a flesh human, true life, the creator; ostensibly, the being with answers for YG. YG receives no answers, because Lesley is a character chained as much as any other- Her design always struck me as the creepiest part of DHMIS, I always saw her somehow as a puppet... Just like how the invisible people were moving the puppets, this actress too is being directed and pulled by invisible strings. Even the creators of the show are being pulled by invisible strings.
@@TheBoboSamurai right?! I agree with just about everything you said. I also didn’t realize she was a puppet at first. Seriously, the biggest of props to the creators.
DHMIS feels like it exists in a very similar artistic space to The Stanley Parable and Pathalogic. They're stories that tell you up front that there's no true meaning to find and no true lore to uncover, but do so in a way that invites you to look for one simply for the sake of looking.
You missed in the TV show ep II, when the duck is killed we see maggots coming from the corpse, much like the duck in the grave earlier in the episode, so it's very likely they wanted fans who watch closely to see that it is the original duck who was killed. Of course we see in episode 6 that duck is replaceable, interestingly there is only one drawer, so maybe only duck is replaceable?
@@InsideAMindInsideAMind in turn though, the original duck had his organs removed, so he wouldn't have been splurted like that. The shovel would also likely still have the maggots on it from digging up the original duck. They definitely did that to mess with people, though. And curiously, in episode 6, as yellow guy goes up the stairs, you can kind of make out Red Guy and Duck talking about Stain Edwards, which is interesting, after they say "What about that time-" I don't think there are necessarily multiple ducks so much as different vessels - much like how she potentially made a new body for David according to that theory. It makes me think of episode 5 in the web series too where Duck is watching yellow guy on television. There seem to be multiple layers to the reality, and the puppets may well be literal "puppets" or avarars controlled by the original characters. A lot seems to be hinting at a VR explanation, especially the reality break at episode 5, but who knows.
@@SisterRose This argument has some big issues. First, if Duck’s organs were actually removed, it wouldn’t make sense that he could relieve himself in the coffin. Second, Stain Edwards would not have the guts regardless as he is entirely a pink blob.
As someone who grew up with an abusive father I'd interpret Roy as a representation of an abusive/neglectful parent. Yes he does sometimes help his kid but most of the time he just ignores his kid or makes things worse
He represents an abusive and greedy producer or boss imo. He doesn’t care about his employees (our three favor traumatized boys) and only works for what *he* wants… the show, or in the case of the tv series, to return to it. He does this by hiding in the walls and trying to join the road-trip.
Have you ever noticed how Roy is seemingly never far from the main trio as well? its like no matter where the trio go, Roy is not too far behind yet doesnt try to guide any of the boys in the right direction during the lessons or stop disaster from happening unless he has something to gain like in the family episode. I think its allegorical of how Roy's influence is inescapable and just how neglectful and abusive he is to always be nearby but do nothing to stop things from getting out of hand. Its one thing to not be aware but he's fully aware of what's going on and still chooses to do nothing. Thats cruelty at that point.
57:43 I think what made Clayhill feel so different to the first series wasn’t the lack of being stuck in a closed room and the claustrophobic feeling it brought with, but actually the idea of so many new characters living in such close quarters with the main three. These characters would take away from the solitude of the original web series that made it so unsettling- just 3 of them with little else existing around them. Of course, there are the teachers, but they were objects or bugs that were suddenly animate and vocal. Everything they said made little sense, frequently cut off the other characters and invalidated their opinions on the topics, only to return back to inanimate parts of the set or leave all together. They weren’t companions, they alienated the main three; confused them and there was seemingly no one else out there who could explain anything. This created that disturbing sense of the unknown and there being nothing else out there. Just a cycle of nonsensical lessons that end in horror. Clayhill didn’t capture that feeling, being a whole town with so many new characters existing amongst the main three. I do also acknowledge that perhaps this was exactly what they meant by claustrophobic- being stuck in this world, alone and perplexed. Struggled to get out my thoughts there so good luck deciphering whatever the hell I was thinking.
Personally I liked Clayhill, I understand it wasn't like the webseries but I still got some enjoyment out of it, I can't exactly explain it but there was a unique kind of feel that I got from Clayhill. I do understand disliking it though.
A thing I noticed in the TV series is that in Episode 6 Red, normally the one to push back the hardest, more or less falls in line with the lesson quite quickly. I think of it as him being chastened by episode 5, whether he knows it or not; he tried to break out, tried to take control of his life, and was rewarded with only desolation and waste before being thrown back in the house. I realise it could also just be that Yellow's sudden shift in personality disturbs him and he's reaching for what's known and familiar in response
I think it comes down to each character’s motives for pushing back. Duck is clearly very self absorbed, and so when he doesn’t get what he wants he will start to push back. Yellow Guy is almost never at full capacity, and when he is, he can see through everything, and is just generally smarter than the storyline allows for, and as a result he pushes back in the pursuit of knowledge, of knowing the answers, of maybe helping himself and his friends to stop the cycle. Red Guy is generally just rather a depressive and bored with the life they’re currently living, and he pushes back when things are too much work, or occasionally, when given the chance to go somewhere else where he can be in control of himself, as a result, if you can give him the illusion of control, whether that be his own blood family, a blob, a high up position at a job, or the ability to play with electricity without anyone telling him what to do, he seems to be, satiated, in a way. And I think that holds true I’m the YT series too, Red Guy only started to push back when the computer steamrolls him hard as hell the whole episode.
@@MayvaAva That's one helluva lucid synopsis. Disagree on one point though. Red was essentially quietly dissenting from the jump, to the point where I consider "That sounds really boring" to be his unofficial catch phrase. I also think his tendency to escape into fantasies relating to freedom and autonomy and, well... escape, is because he is the least satisfied with their co-dependent "existence" (maybe even existence in general, considering him getting jealous that Duck died instead of him). He seems to give up on the notion of freedom and escape altogether after the road trip episode which I consider to be his final defeat and the conclusion of his story ark before the big finale where Yellow Guy goes into the red room to get answers from Laura Palmer only to receive riddles instead, before the big reveal that Yellow Guy is Bob now... er, I mean Roy.
@@UnvisibleINK oh yea that’s fair, I was mostly commenting on the red guy “usually being the one to push back” cause while true, I feel like it’s a bit more complicated than that, I agree with u mostly, not entirely but that’s just cause idk it all haha
@@MayvaAva Totally. I def agree that Red Guy isn't the default antagonist for every teacher, or necessarily the first guy to identify the absurdity of each episode. Green Guy being easy to agitate is just as often the catalyst for things going sideways. Also Yellow's valid confusion and frustration in the face of nonsense is also often a device they use to derail the teachers lesson and instigate a meta-narrative event. Hope my comment didn't come across like I was disputing your opinion wholesale. Just attempted to underline that while I get your point that "Red Guy does X" is an incomplete picture considering they all actually do "X" at various points, I do also think that the themes of escapism and a general underlying demeanor of non-compliance/conformity are to me quite significant aspects of his character. Considering I see some validity in each opinion I figured I'd try to bridge the gap between the two perspectives. :)
God that last couple of lines from episode two of the web series gives me chills to this day. Idk it’s so simple, everyone runs out of time, but there’s something about the way the lines are delivered is so chilling
To me, it's also the inevitability of time. The way the clock can't really intervene, after all, he's just a tool to tell the time, nothing more, nothing less. You can't argue or bargain with time itself.
That line has always sent chills even after all these years. I mean it's like a slap in our face by reminding us of our mortality, in the end we all will run out of time and die. The Time song is one of my favorite from the web series because it has lines such as this.
I'm sure others have also mentioned this, but if you look closely at the duck who was decapitated, you can see worms surrounding his body. The only other time we saw worms that episode was in the coffin with the real duck, suggesting that some of the worms and burrowed into him and came out once he was killed, also seemingly confirming that it was the real duck who was killed.
Also i feel as if the claymation duck died it probably wouldn't have spilled blood and insides. It probably would have just been clay like the factory machine when the faulty clay thing was discarded.
Is there a "real" duck though? As shown in the TV series, Leslie keeps tons of "backups." Maybe every time one of the characters dies in the show, they die for real and are completely replaced by a 'clone' of sorts.
@@RachelJamesS_ I disagree for a couple reasons. 1. That clay thing in the factory was still entirely clay. Once the clay is fully molded into a duck guy, it may be indistinguishable even on the inside. 2. The show doesn't have this level of consistency with how the world works. It uses tons of callbacks and references to build an incredible tapestry of lore but mechanically I don't think they are trying to make a coherent mythology.
@@OtherworldlyOdd they also have cans of duck in the background and we know that those originally contained duck guy. So, this would make sense. The intro saying just three of us over and over does imply it might not be true expecally when you see them rewrite it to be fore when they end up with two duck guys.
I saw some comments saying that the creators confirmed that stain was the thing being experimented on by bigger boys in episode 6, idk if it’s true or not tho
I love episode 4 because of the return of the computer. It made Colin my new favorite character because he always sounds so happy (even when insulting Warren lol) and he's so much more friendly and supportive. I also love his full character design and the way he moves around. Also the "I love you! Goodbye!" Is my favorite thing ever it's so cute
There's a massive contrast between the web series Colin and TV Show Colin. And I feel it ties back to Roy and his skewed view of children's programming. These puppets left behind from his mess were given new purpose by Leslie.
I think Lesleys dialogue represents the more common type of media, telling what you should be thinking, discouraging yellow guy from thinking on his own by giving him the answers.
The episode four slander is deeply upsetting to me, given it’s my favorite episode of the new series. I know not everyone gets it, but I think Warren is an absolutely hilarious character and he does actually have a deeper meaning. He’s a parasite. When he shows the slides depicting his backstory he paints his friends in an extremely negative light even though they don’t do anything to antagonize him. He’s deeply upset when they’re paying more attention to a kitten than him, and later when he shows them his business idea and they don’t invest in it he insinuates that they’re stupid and didn’t even listen to it. Because of how egotistical he is he loses his friends and his membership to the OK Stop organization, but continues to use their materials to give his manipulative lessons about friendship credibility. Since he’s generally annoying he’s desperate for friends to leech off of, which is what gives him the appearance of being sympathetic. That’s exactly how he draws people in. He gets into Yellow Guy’s brain and begins slowly taking over as soon as the characters in Yellow Guy’s mind begin showing him praise. Eventually he drives everyone away aside from Yellow Guy himself, who’s starting to catch onto his rouse. He tries to escape, and is chased by the grotesque worm form of Warren before finally being saved by Duck, one of his real friends.
Adding onto this regarding episode one: To me, this episode represents a real world problem similar to the first two episodes of the web series. The briefcase teacher tells the main characters that they can have any job they want, mimicking how most children are told that they can be anything they want when they grow up. Then when he leaves the main characters in the factory it shows that a lot of people can end up stuck in jobs they hate when they actually do grow up. The briefcase also shows being “unemployed” as synonymous with being pathetic and ignorant, in addition to the computer in episode four saying “freelancers deserve to die”. I think this represents how a lot of people look down upon freelancers as not having “real jobs”, and could reflect what the creators have gone through during their careers.
It's a good episode because for some it's relatable and cathartic to see it represented and mocked for how it is, and for others it'll actually serve as a lesson of red flags to watch out for
hmm, to me hurting a helpless animal or a loved one dying is deeply upsetting, if you consider that slander id suggest going back inside your cry closet . you are in fact the real life yellow guy smh
This show really is something great. Normally I hate it when creators leave their stories open ended but for DHMIS it really works well. It seems like much more of an intentional and impactful decision than how it feels for most other shows in my opinion. It also really does fit it with the story and help elevate it. Honestly a 10/10 job by the creators and an amazing video by you!
but for a second season it truly is a massive letdown if they just throw away all progression just in favor of keeping it open ended. especially with so much theory bait already held within a single season, a second one with 0 progression but only more theory bait ideas to generate MORE, different theories feels annoying, and makes the idea of theory crafting less interesting. ofc with Leslie, they can’t just throw her away… right? or what about the clay being able to create MORE of a character, or the idea of the people in the middle of the earth? i wouldn’t put it past them for the sake of keeping it opened ended to just keep it even more vague and throwing away other bait to avoid giving any answers. a theory is meant to create an idea of an ANSWER. so it’s extremely tricky for them to somehow not give enough away so you can still interpret the series in different ways, but not keep it so open ended that we have 0 definitive answers. it’s quite tricky, but doable and i have 100% faith. but i also have a nagging doubt that we will get definitive answers and a true story, just so they can breed “creativity” and theories for traction.
@@niconico9358why should it matter if we get an ending though? The show is clearly very cryptic in everything it does, so an open-ended ending would be right on theme
@@HarryBoSweets because if all that intrigue isn't actually leading to anything then what's the point. Whey should I be invested. Don't bait an audience with a story when there is none
@@fittinginisforjigsawpieces3141 if you don’t want to invest time into using puzzle pieces dotted around the show to come up with your own logical conclusion as to what it all means… then nobody is forcing you to do it or not
I've recently been getting back into ARGs and Unfiction - I forgot how much I loved them. You were the channel that introduced me to it all, and now you've posted again after a year. Words cannot express how much joy your channel has brought me over the years. I'm glad to see you back, Jamie. ❤️
When Duck says to Red Guy that he is his best friend at the funeral he meant it. It's proof in Episode V of the Web-Series where duck is the only one clearly disturbed by the lack of Red Guy's presence. Also the twins hijacking the episode and derailing the show is also something I feel is done in Episode III of the web-series. In the "internet" episode, the globe comes to life first, making us think that Globe is the teacher, but is then interrupted and hijacked by Colin the Computer. I feel the only reason Red Guy is able to escape in Episode III and realise things aren't correct here is because Colin was not supposed to be the teacher, Red Guy was able to break free of the show because this is not what was rehearsed or planned.
HE HAS RETURNED! Also as someone who has fainted during a blood test being taken that blood transfusion scene is definitely accurate in capturing the feeling.
Same! I nearly passed out after having my blood taken but managed to stay awake, although I was very light headed afterwards. It really knocks you out. 😂
As a person who collected blood professionally, I can tell you that FAR more people lost consciousness from the teeny finger-prick to test blood type and red blood cell count than from giving a whole pint of blood. It's all about whether you are stressed enough to go into shock. Had some trouble-makers at a school who always tried to run screaming into the donation room just to try and put everyone into a panic.
I really like episode 4 but for more of a personal reason. I used to dissociate a lot as coping mechanism and see a lot of those tendencies in Yellow Guy escaping into his mind to hangout with his brain friends. Warren invading Yellow’s personal safe space was terrifying to me because I could see myself in Yellow’s place. His own place of comfort being taken from him with nowhere to escape too.
I get the whole "leaving it up to interpretation" angle and quite enjoy it in a lot of media but it also always has this bitter tinge to it of a never ending goose-chase. Like a forever ongoing will-they won't-they; and that part frustrates me. I guess it stems from getting invested in the characters and just wanting their best :') I think the bits of dialogue with Leslie are there to make the ending more devastating, asking even more questions while having the book - a possible answer to it all - dangling right in front of our eyes. They said it best: Its great for us but probably terribly annoying the viewers.
I'm with you. It feels lazy to me. Like, they could just make stuff up, there's no rules, no coherent world. And while yes, that's the whole point, it also makes the whole thing comlpletely pointless. There's no point in theorizing, if there is no truth to be found. If it will never be revealed. As long as there may be a reveal at some point, you can work towards something, but as soon as the book got shredded, I lost all interest in any theories.
@@L0op See, I get your viewpoint bc I thought like that until recently too. Why theorize if there is no answer? But I think it's important to see it from other people's viewpoints as well: Not everybody is like us, who spends time to theorize to get to a possible "RIGHT" conclusion, this is what makes it fun for us. I think the majority of ARGs & mystery-stories have mislead us into thinking that it HAS to be this way. For others, this is just creative play. Theorizing doesn't have to be "right", that is not the goal, being right isn't fun to them. The goal is engaging with the source material - no matter if it's right or wrong - THIS is fun for them; and these people are absolutely hitting their goal. So while for us, yes, this seems pointless; I've come around to realize that not everybody wants to be "right", some just want to be creative, make wild connections for the heck of it, engage with other theorists and be as creative as possible, just because they can :)
@@L0op Pointless? And what's the point of something fictional that has a "truth" to it? Event X or character Y may be canonical - but it's still completely made up! This isn't a question of "I have a riddle, can you figure out the answer?", that's an invention of the viewers. Planting strange references to things adds to a mystery, but that doesn't imply a solution. Honestly, it sounds like the problem is on the receiving end. Sometimes, you just create things because you get a number of ideas and express them. Viewers making a whole bunch of assumptions about there being an underlying canon that will some day be confirmed is just... it's asking for something that was never promised in the first place. It's always irked me how a lot of fans of different works try to map out every single detail of whatever they are consuming. Overexplaining things can also completely ruin what makes things interesting in the first place. For me, having to delve into every detail and insisting on explanations often turns into people just being tedious and pedantic. At the same time, I can accept that some people can't enjoy things the way I do, and really want answers, want coherency, want rules and so on. Enjoy whatever you want. But when that ends up with a critique like calling it "lazy", you're just in the wrong. You're just plain rude. And you're just diminishing the way others create and the way others enjoy consuming things. Somtimes a cigar is just a cigar - sometimes art is just art. Having a fun idea and running with it without creating a coherent plan isn't a bad thing.
@@ArancilI totally understand what you’re saying, and I think “lazy” is definitely the wrong word to use, because obviously the work that went into DHMIS is anything but lazy. Still, I understand why they would say that. By dodging any sort of concrete answers or resolution, it seems like there never was any planning as far as the overall story goes. Because in reality, there isn’t a story. It’s just a bunch of random nonsense. It’s amazing, and creative, and funny and weird, but it’s nonsense. That’s where I feel calling it “lazy” is understandable, because it’s obvious there was no planning in the overall story. They had an interesting idea, and it works, but is ultimately unsatisfying to the audience. People are hard wired to want a beginning middle and end, it makes us feel secure, and it is satisfying to have an undeniable conclusion. I think David Lynch rides the line perfectly, because, although he will never explain the true meanings of his movies, you know that they’re there, and it’s up to the audience to figure it out. With DHMIS, I think it’s clear there is no real meaning. The ambiguous nature of the lore, even according to the creators themselves, is ANNOYING to the audience. Yet, it’s fun for them? Honestly, knowing they’re getting off on intellectually constipating their audience is the more annoying part. Seriously, fuck them.
@@Guywithaclub I understand where youre both coming from Im someone who likes some form of explanation. I dont need everything hand fed to my mouth . Imo tho without the mystery it just feels one note. *starts out childlike. Zany character shows up. Ends chaotic*. Which is fine to an extent but imo thats just content. Almost like a youtube short. For me the mystery kept me watching. Kept me wanting to find out whats happening.....for no payoff. To me it feels like if you are watching an ad on youtube and it constantly said "you can skip ad in 3 seconds" and then the ad ends before the timer ever hits zero. Just there to keep you engaged, not there to pay off
Baker Terry is a total chad. Not only is he the one and only Craig, which is honestly the best part of the series, but he answered the phone for fans in character for TWO WEEKS STRAIGHT??? love to see it
I really don't see how episode 4 is weak because of Warren (that's his name, not 'Eagle'), in fact he's what makes the episode the best one in my opinion thematically and meta-wise. Warren personifies toxic friendships, he makes everything about him without any consideration to what his 'friends' want, while also claiming that Yellow Guy's actual friends are horrible so he can isolate him; he's a literal parasite who gets in Yellow Guy's head and makes him depressed. Its also why he calls himself an eagle when he's a worm, he's pretending to be somethin he isn't. Warren also represents those 'zero tolerance' anti-bullying programs in schools, and its also why he targets Yellow Guy who is depicted as being child-like; because that's who those programs wee claiming to help, when all they ever did was make the adults who put them in place feel better about themselves without them actually having to do anything. His advice on how to be a good friend is as shallow as a puddle and harmfully vague, and its clear he's just doing it for his own gain (he isn't affiliated with 'OK Stop' anymore but still uses their marketing) The show isn't going out of its way to make Warren annoying, because that's *literally* what toxic friends are like, and I kinda feel like people who dislike episode 4 have never had to experience those types of people. As somebody who's had toxic friends, it's so cathardic for DHMIS to constantly dunk on Warren and point out what a prick he is. Plus suggesting that the episode just be 20 minutes of the main trio being on the computer would have missed the point of the episode being called 'Friendship', if you want an episode where the trio are on the computer the entire time just watch the internet episode from the webseries.
When Warren first appears, he's smaller than Yellow Guy which I believe represents just how little control he has over Yellow Guy. When Warren enters his brain, he's taller than Yellow Guy, which shows that he is more of an influence on Yellow Guy's mental state, and how it slowly deteriorates when Warren is there. When Yellow Guy goes deeper into his mind, when he's just a ball, Warren shows up and is significantly larger. And then when Yellow Guy is in the black Void, Warren is completely massive with an incredibly creepy form before Duck gets Warren out of Yellow Guy's head. The way I also view Warren is also a Parasite, a thing that latches onto a victim and takes whatever it can to benefit itself without giving it back. Warren getting larger the deeper he gets into Yellow Guy's mind represents how much control he gets over Yellow Guy, because of how toxic and demanding he actually is. Idk if this has been said by anyone else but that's just how I view Warren lol
I feel like the whole point of the entire series is to establish that every theory is a correct theory. Set up by the very first episode, the creators seem to just want us to all think different things about it, "getting creative". And actually, I love it. I love when a creator doesn't tell us right from wrong because they let us use our creative mind to come up with the most amazingly absurd theories. With that I say, let's get creative. I love the vibes of this series and I think we have a good community behind it. Stay creative my friends!
honestly the condement store theory is my fav because it's so ridiculous that you can't help but be intrigued. perhaps the teachers being the different ways people prepare hot dogs in what order.
In ep 3. I think Roy came for the food rather than yellow guy. I mean when he opens the door he takes a whiff, he doesn't even seem to acknowledge yellow guy. Yellow guy being saved seems to be the unintentional outcome rather than Roy's main intent. Roy just barged in and tried to eat, the family retaliated, and a bloody fight happened which Roy won. Yellow guy just took the opportunity and peace out. Roy is no hero his just hungry.
This is interesting, almost like a honey pot fly trap where his son brings in weird victims that he can destroy. Personally I saw it as a display of ownership, given Roy's previous presence in the web series and how important and mysterious he was there. His "interview" claims he's punishing his son (and there's a lot of evidence which supports this) so personally his entering the family and presumably eats them suggests to me that he's freeing Yellow Guy pointedly. There's stories of people with abusive parents who, when they get bullied in school or something, the parent scares the hell out of the bully. It seems like a caring gesture, but in actuality it's about control. "He's not yours, he's mine. You can't hurt him. Only I can."
@@mank89 I think in whatever world they are in there is a food shortage, that’s why they needed a mother to be able to order a family pack maybe it’s some sort of air dropped ration but Roy was waiting for the moment to snipe the loot
The "And Roy" at the end gave me goosebumps. What a spectacular video, charting the series history, development and asking some brilliant questions. I love your interpretation of the true "message" of the series as well. That the show is merely a vehicle for you to express our own creativity, and function as training wheels until we are ready to create our own worlds, characters and stories. Incredible video, mate, and a spectacular nod to the creators of this series. Ufffff, after 2 hours of that, I'm not gonna lie: I might need a hug, I'm scared.
DHMIS is one of those things thats always stuck in my brain, usually in some random dark corner of it and then it comes out of hiding and takes over my life for a few days. its honestly a fascinating series
I had almost given up hope that this channel would ever return but here you're with a movie length episode too! I am so excited I might start shrieking like a Howler Monkey with joy.
I’ve always been too afraid to watch these videos on TH-cam and have only seen small parts of them and a young girl, but watching this entire video today really made me want to watch the entire series and videos on channel 4. This is so awesome.
As someone with Adhd I find it difficult to sit down and watch a full something without skipping a part or just not watching all of it. But this video I sat down and watched the full 2 hours and 35 minutes without skipping. I was completely hyper fixated on what this guy was saying it made me have a new look on a few things. I can tell they put a lot of work into this one video with the music and the way they introduced a new part of the video with silence at first and then to ease into the next section of the video. All I'm saying is this is a masterpiece! : )
I was very iffy about the whole "every theory is correct" thing at first. But your video really put it in a way that I thought was really cool. The idea that the series is not only born of creativity, but designed to spark creativity in those who watch it. Sometimes it's a little bothersome that there isn't an answer, or that there is no overarching theme with a dark mystery, but sometimes that's ok. We just have to "get creative."
The thing I like the most about “Don’t hug me I’m scared” is that it’s just so good at doing EXACTLY what it sets out to do. To me DHMIS feels like real life. There’s so many complexities, unanswered questions, interesting adventures, and scary emotions/undertones already existing in the real world that DHMIS just feels like an accurate visual representation of what it’s like to simply be alive.
Okay here is the actual plot to DHMIS. There's three of us There's three of us Look closely, you will see There's three of us Just three of us There's him, and you, and me And everyday, we all hang out To find out what we talk about And I'm the one that's over here And I'm the one that's over here And I am over here I'm a talking crow-like thing And I'm red and made of string And I'm a yellow pig And I'm the one who is quite tall And I'm the one who's going bald And I've gone bald as well And every day's a new surprise When you're learning with us guys And we live in an actual nightmare! I'm the one who had a dream Where there was stuff like there was another me And everything was lots of fun And I went and saw the other ones And there was a little lumpy one And another whiny, middle one And there was things that I had around That I knew what they were, but I don't know now And then it went away That's three of us Just three of us Us three
Thank you so much for playing the "Big Day" song in it's entirety, especially adding the part where Red and Yellow guy are at the funeral. Idk why but Red just pulling the chef's hat off of Yellow completes the whole joke. XD
Aww... Episode 4 is my favorite of the TV series. =) Warren is probably the most nuanced teacher the series has had so far. Many people know someone like Warren - pushy, selfish, and blind to their faults. Whether they're actual narcissists, have severe social anxiety / no concept of social skills, affected by past trauma, or something else depends on the person, but whether they realize it or not, the same desire for friendship can work against them and push people away. Yeah, he is deliberately off-putting; what kind of friendship teacher sucks at making friends? The worm design is likely a deliberate choice as well - a parasite, latching onto healthy friendships and sucking the life out of them (as we see with the Brain Friends). The nuance comes from how much does Warren really "get" how his actions affect others. Does he KNOW he's hurting people and not care? Does he NOT know and just think no one knows how to be a "good friend" but him? Does he know and is TRYING to change, but is blind to how off-putting his actions can be? I've heard from fans who watched this episode and asked themselves, "wait... am I a Warren?" They see something in him that is relatable - loneliness, desperation, misunderstanding social cues / norms, etc. Heck, as someone with social anxiety, I wondered about that myself. =/ Quick aside: if someone reading this has asked themselves that question - if you're worried that you might be a Warren, you're probably not. =) Warren thinks his actions are normal / acceptable, so the fact that you might be questioning IF your actions negatively impact others... that shows you have more personal insight than Warren does, and are more open to positive change (if any needs to be made). As long as you're not forcing people to listen to your podcast, you should be okay. ;) As far as the rest of the episode... I related to poor Yellow Guy so much, not getting an email from his friends =( and especially his withdrawal from disheartening social interaction to the comfort and safety of his imagination. I struggled with that so much growing up, and to some extent I'm still scared of social interaction and wonder how much people like / hate me. Retreating into your imagination can be fine in small doses... but at some point you need to come out and be in the real world... and having real friends that like you for who you are is a priceless treasure. The best part is that you don't need to MAKE it happen like Warren does; it just kind of unfolds naturally. =) I thought they handled the topic of Friendship in a way that only DHMIS could. It doesn't go the standard route of, say, SpongeBob SquarePants or My Little Pony - "here's how to be a good friend." Rather, they instead opt to: ~ make fun of hackneyed Anti-Bullying presentations, ~ make fun of overly saccharine preschool shows, ~ give an example of a BAD friend as the teacher, and ~ demonstrate how good friends help and care about each other without shoving it down the viewer's throat. Bravo, DHMIS! You win an edible trophy! =D TL;DR - Warren is a complex teacher that has people wondering if THEY are as bad as him, and anyone who has struggled with friendships can relate to Yellow Guy wanting to be with his Brain Friends. I thought it was very well-written, and the topic was handled with that distinctive DHMIS flair. It may not be for everyone, but I loved it! =)
Don't bother yourself with who likes dislikes you, if anyone has a problem, let it be just that.... their problem. I enjoyed what your input is and love the weird wacky and wonderful. Oh yeah and forgive those who torment you, for they have not travelled far in the realms of understanding 😜
@@jolenepetersen1113 Personally, given that your statement was a bit general, I don't disagree entirely, but do disagree strongly on some levels. If people you respect (honorable friends or peers) or who you are duty bound to love and nurture (your own children for example) grow weary of you, lose respect for you or come to dislike you then that's probably a sign that you have some issues you need to address. Dismissing everything as other people's problems can easily just be an excuse not to think, or an excuse to disregard the feelings of others. Avoiding toxicity is one thing, blowing smoke up your own butt is another. I would advocate familiarizing yourself with identifying which circumstance is which rather than just "tuning out the haters" so to speak. One of Warren's major personality flaws is that he suppresses and denies criticism and hides behind an ego-fantasy where he falsely believes/wishes himself to be an eagle. I do agree though that tuning out the opinions of judgy strangers who don't even know you is worthwhile. Nobody should internalize demented shit like racial prejudice. Nobody should take a bad high school teacher to heart, or a shitty interaction with a rude salesperson. But speaking on my own behalf, I find it helpful to at least consider the grievances of people who have invested the time in getting to know me... and I'd hope they would do the same for me if I felt legitimately crapped off about something. Not trying to give you grief about your comment. Just that without any further clarity I feel like your sentiment could have a detrimental effect on people who are actively looking for excuses to avoid accountability and shift blame on to others.
As someone with social phobias, Episode 4 really spoke to me in a lot of ways, from relating to Yellow to wondering if I was myself a Warren. This comment is a better analysis of that episode than I've seen any TH-camr make, kudos!
Honestly great message but if you really think I just sat through a 2 hour video about creepy puppets and now am gonna read an essay about friendship, you my friend are wrong
The way Mr. Transport described what he drinks, 'It was forged deep underground from the remnants of the ancient ones', is a not too horrible way of describing the process that actual oil is formed
I actually really liked the friendship episode… it portrays a deluded, narcissistic person claiming to be their friend when he only wants everything to be about him and for things to go only his way. There are other videos that go into this episode in detail. He is kind of gross looking and annoying but that is literally the point.
I don’t know if anybody else has had a similar theory to mine, but I like to think that the duck, red guy and yellow guy all represent different “ages” in a way. Yellow guy is the youngest, being a small, somewhat naive child, maybe 5 or 6. Duck is the middle child, maybe even a teenager/tween. He’s a bit more level-headed than yellow guy, but he still does immature things (he’s also pretty sassy and often is the one that breaks down first). Meanwhile, the red guy is obviously an adult. What’s the meaning behind all this?? No idea! Just spitting out some thoughts.
I agree that they do represnt different age ranges but Duck is clearly the elder. He is coded as a sort of conservative grandparent: reading right wing newpapers, having a strong admiration for the military and believing he is the voice of authority in the clump
I agree but personally I see it as yellow/red/duck as child/hound adult/elder like the other comment said. Plus I think Leslie is supposed to represent stunted emotional age, if that makes sense. Plus she enforces the roles on them so she could represent tradition.
I think the issue with it being *entirely* up to interpretation though, despite them being coy about it, is that now they're introduced Lesley it'd be very hard for them to make a Season 2 without addressing it. I mean, they could, but the interest in theories would paradoxically dropped off if they just kept doing vague hints. They've created something less abstract than the web series that needs *some* more definite answers, or it doesn't pay off. We've seen this with plenty of series before. I think it's a great opportunity to talk about the idea of just how much of a mystery should be revealed, and how much should be left up to interpretation. The truth is if you have a series that's constantly vague and ends without answers, it can actually be frustrating. Petscop was a wild ride to follow, but a lot of the big theory heads felt let down especially with some of the creator statements afterwards. It's a difficult place they're in where revealing too much will ruin the atmosphere but revealing too little will become tedious and make it harder to be invested in the wider mystery and characters. Both options are creativity killers. It's hard to imagine they won't capitalise on the success and do a second season. They seem to have more they want to do with these characters and this "world". But I'll be interested to see how they pull it off. I think we will get more definitive answers with regards Lesley, Roy and Yellow Guy, and more hints at the nature of the world. We'll get a baseline explanation maybe at the very end that still leaves a lot up to interpretation of how it fits together. Things like the timeline I imagine will never be answered - as well as the individual smaller mysteries(like why Lily & Todney's house is so different from the Felt locations for example). I think they will and will have to move towards a more definitive answer while still keeping the door open for a myriad of theories and alternate takes. And I don't envy being in that position. I could definitely understand leaving it as is. I don't think people would feel massively cheated in that case, but we'll always want more.
I completely agree, there's a distinction between designing a narrative with very sparse hints, and random hints or events without actual connection. In my opinion they are getting to close to something that *feels* like the later. The series is by no means bad, but how they deal with season 2 could make or break the whole thing. They've put themselves in a tricky spot that's challenging. As an exercise, if I tried to continue the series it's not obvious to me how I could write it in a way that's actually satisfying with a pay off that makes sense.
@@sexygirlmax2019 didn't the creator disprove that theory? I've heard that the creator came to regret putting those details in because of how it mislead theorists into fixating on them.
i love how you break down some things on the production side of things, so much i’ve never seen covered! great video, keep it up and i’m glad you’re back.
This 2 hour return after over a year of no uploads on a series that you haven’t covered in around half a decade is one of the best things you’ve ever done. thank you so much for all of the effort and dedication you put into your videos for us
My favorite moment and one that often goes overlooked is the “worm in your brain” song, I think it so perfectly incapsulates who the characters are and the tone of the show. Also surprisingly catchy wish it went in for longer
I did the same course as them at the same Uni (a few years later) and can completely understand why they made that video about creativity... Never before have I had tutors micromanage what we can and can't do/ what mediums are and are not allowed because they aren't "artistic" or whatever. They were so weird about what was and wasn't considered interesting or creative it was so stifling. (they also didn't understand the internet and how important it was for artists... in 2016!)
I considered myself a pretty diehard fan of this series, and now even more so! This analysis has given me much more insight into the show as a whole and on the behind the scenes throughout the years as well. Thank you for posting this! Both this video and the series are super fun and inspiring to watch, especially as an aspiring online horror writer! 💛
I love how in depth you are with this. Takes me back to your video on "Inside Number 9". I never watched this series but I've seen some theory videos and thought that was enough. Seeing all of the extra details you put into this makes me realize how much I missed by not watching it myself. Thank you for putting so much work into making all of your videos so entertaining and informative.
@@ShuTheIdiot I forget which one was my first but that one is easily one of my favorites. All of them are just so good though. I really enjoy Jamie’s calm tone. And even though he doesn’t get overly excited you can tell he has a passion for what he does and what he talks about.
Jamie has talked about how summarizing ARGs and doing theories and what not wasnt his original intention for the channel. Instead, it was supposed to be the name going inside the mind of the creator. If you remember the Chuck Tingle video that is what I think Jamie most wanted to do, interviewing the person and taking a deep dive into their content. I think this video is the perfect blend of both and I hope he is truly glad and happy with what he has done... because what a worthwhile wait it has been. Thanks Jamie.
I'm pretty sure that the hot black water is meant to be coffee and the transport teacher's black liquid drink is oil. I think, "forged far beneath the earth by the ancient ones" is supposed to be dinosaurs decaying into oil by pressure far under ground. Plus, what do a lot of transportation vehicles need for fuel? (or in other works "drink") Oil, petroleum, coal, etc. But this is just my theory.
"forged from the last remnants of the ancient ones" definitely sounds like oil to me. The Ancients Ones being dinosaurs and it was 'forged' deep in the earth under great heat and pressure.
I actually really enjoyed episode 4 because I felt as I was able to learn more about yellow guy and the idea that he had to go to a safe place to escape reality is something I feel like a lot of people can relate to. Also the worm or “eagle” was definitely annoying but in the best way possible as that was his character, a pest who literally made the poor shy guy die 😭Final thing to add is I laughed so much in the scene where all the dream friends leave because of how annoying the worm is.
In episode IV, i think it still talks about teachers; the key is in the "Don't touch me" part, where some teachers may feel uncomfortable by students asking questions that are out of their bounds. Usually becoming stubborn as their pride and authority has been attacked since they don't have an answer.
This is a true story. 30 minutes ago, I looked upon "Inside a Mind" wondering when his next upload would be, I'd be fine without one however this notion made me incredibly upset, it was only until I took a final glance I noticed a new upload! I'm so happy that you're back.
Nobody really talks about this but I love the detail of yellow guy laughing while shredding the book. It almost sounds like he’s crying behind a fake or controlled laugh.
my favourite episode is the friendship one, having dealt with people exactly like warren the ~~worm~~ eagle, its so accurate it, the episode feels like it slows down when he appears because thats how you feel when you interact with a friend like him
Your last few sentences brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for presenting this series from that perspective. Focusing on the beauty of creativity creating creativity...
Wowza! This was a great returning episode! Really happy I got to relive this whole show, and I’m also happy to hear from you again! Captivating the whole time, and I’m excited to see what you’re going to cover next, man. Thank you!!
Actually episode 4 is my favorite, i have a relative just like that, so i can really appreciate the details and the catharsis. Also, the black liquis is so clearly petroleum, you know...made from the remenants of ancient ones aka dinasours etc? i swear, the show is pretty clear
I definitely think the 2nd making of the show and the one that actually came out captured the world and feeling of Don't hug me I'm scared PERFECTLY, even with the bigger budget they managed to give off that eerie hopelessness the original web series had
With the massive surge of youtube content since the show's move away from the platform to TV, there really have been a lot of new, creative interpretations. I haven't seen it all, of course, so I can't name a full list of my favourite ideas, but one thing I will always be impressed by with the fan theories and the show in general, is how they really keep the series grounded in what have been its roots since episode 1. After all, it always ends up right back at home.
while i like the idea that “the point of it is to have no point” and i think it works well for the short web series, i’m not convinced it will work for the much longer show, i just feel like it will end up feeling pointless and unsatisfying. either way i’m sure they’ll do an amazing job in s2 (and maybe beyond?)
fantastic video, I remember watching the very first don't hug me I'm scared with my brother when I was just 7 years old, and he was 4 and I just remember that episode scaring us so much and how we told our parents about it. But to see how far this series has come is insane to me.
I remember this being really popular in the 2010s but I was unfortunately going through my "I'm not like other kids" age and so avoided this. Now as an adult I'm interested again but it just feels like there's so much to this Fandom. So thank you for making a nice cohesive video explaining it.
Lovely to see you back! I've been obsessed with DHMIS lately and this was just perfect! I love your conclusion of creativity. That's always one I can get behind. My own thought: While the episode with Warren isn't my favorite, I do like it simply because it felt like I was watching Yellow Guy experience dissociation. It's something I deal with whenever things get overwhelming and it's become incredibly pervasive in my life. I have a hard time hanging out with friends or family because I get overwhelmed and then dissociation kicks in. I can't feel my own thoughts, my body, my emotions. When people ask me how I'm doing I automatically answer "I'm fine" because I *don't know* how I'm feeling. It's like the entire concept of me doesn't exist in those moments. I used to use my inner world as an escape, making up stories and characters that could distract me from how terrible I felt. However when the real world things got worse, that inner world slowly died. I couldn't feel the characters or setting as well as I used to, because I was exhausted. It hurt to try and escape into something that didn't help, so I stopped imagining them - And it made me even more miserable. It was like a terrible spiral that didn't stop until my environment changed. Warren, Red Guy and Duck in that episode all act like people I've known and it made me happy to see Red and Duck actually care (in the capacity they can) and actively try to help.
crazy how in the time since the last video, i read and understood the entirety of homestuck, became a lesbian, had a organ removed and bought a massive art tab. still though i never stopped loving this channel.
I didn’t realized that the video was 2 hour long until the very end when you said it, and I was pretty shocked 🤣💖✨ I didn’t even feel the time, loved the way you talked and explained every detail!💞
Legit love that you talk about the "crazy" section of the original short - because while I know a lot of people treat it like things getting dark or evil or whatever... it always struck me as rapturous and chaotic. Also... I think it might be significant that DHMIS 3 was made around the time that the Same Sex Marriage act was being debated and finalised in the UK. There was a lot of very archaic notions about marriage being voiced publicly at the time as opponents tried to explain exactly what their problem with it was. Makes me wonder if that was an influence on it.
@@dissraps - Lol, I'm referring to an episode that specifically talks about unconventional vs conventional relationships, a subject that's mentioned in this video, and which came out shortly after a fairly significant moment in LGBT equality in the UK, but maybe that's the same as "the entirety of the world", huh? Sounds like you're the one with the problem here.
I went in to this expecting theory and attempts at explanations of the lore and story. But instead I was given a rundown on themes, ideas, and philosophy behind the core of the show and it's narrative. It was unexpected but very pleasant surprise. Thank you for helping to gather, summarize, and make these ideas more digestible. As someone who never watched the show because of anxiety, being able to get a more basic and general understanding of the show and what it's presenting (without the fear and unease just watching the show) makes me love the show even more
I usually find it harder to watch a whole video through and through. But this video was so well pit together and so engaging! I live that you pointed out things I never noticed! Thank you!
First off, incredible research and thorough presentation of all this! I've been fairly obsessed w DHMIS from the early days and you shared things here that I didn't know! I think you honed in on the truth that it the artists have created an incredibly complex thing that is intentionally inconclusive and perplexing. They say things like "every theory is right" bc the thesis of the project is make people think and explore what's going on. It's fun to theorize on what it's about, but that's only a splinter of the greater purpose that challenges folks to make sense of their feelings after seeing dhmis. I've watched a ton of reactions to this both in person and on YT, and something I've never heard anyone discuss is the perfection of timing thruout... Esp in the original shorts. They set this familiar stage, folks watching for the first time often have heard this is a horror show, but feel like they've been tricked thru the slow build.. Ep1 starts so familiar to kids programming I've never seen anyone not drop their guard. "That sounds really boring," and "Green is not a creative color," show a hint of satire cluing a viewer in that it's not for kids... Then the full stop when the clown drowns in oil jolts everyone I've seen react to this in a "wait, what's going on!?" kind of way. The teacher waits just long enough to spark a thought before redirecting back into the innocent song.. Which starts dropping absurd humor for folks to catch and disarm once again... Until they all "listen to their heart/brain/rain voices" in the final sequence.. Universally making first time viewers incredibly uncomfortable and feel disturbed. Then, after all that! There is one last little musical tag from the disarming song saying to not talk about it.. Musical sting. Elegantly giving the viewer permission to walk away from questioning/exploring the complicated feelings the last 90seconds had suddenly and unexpectedly been wrenched from the depths of consciousness. Ep2 seems to know you "know what to expect now," and embraces the new viewer in the lesson in some brilliantly subtle ways.. Like the clock ticking from the jump. For ex, I would guess most folks find a clock ticking either soothing or distracting. Both accomplish the goal here of helping a viewer drop their guard. This lesson never slows down, promptly zigs after any line that seems off, and tears the viewers attention between exploring that weird thing just said and keeping up with the lesson... Building to Duck's existential view of time that's drown out by an ear splitting alarm from the teacher followed by the aging segment that just overwhelms any thoughtful processing of what Duck said or why Tony shut him up... Ultimately ending with the same pacifying noise of the ticking clock. Beyond whatever it means, these bits are intended to make an audience ask 2 of the fundamental questions at the root of Art. "what am I looking at here?" and "why does it make me feel the way I do?" Not only does dhmis do this masterfully, it seems to consistently walk folks down the same path of discovery, making the same first impressions over and over. While folks say dhmis is upsetting and disturbing bc it's gore/raw meat/absurdity/etc, that's merely superficial. What really makes Dhmis upsetting is the way it subverts expectations thus challenging deeply engrained ideas we generally don't confront. Tgerećs this unspoken rule of sticking with the status quo, not to question what we're taught, just do your job, live your life, watch silly TH-cam and it's fine. Dhmis gets under that shell and pokes at thoughts/beliefs we aren't supposed to question... And after observing dozens of folx react, I can say confidently that it does so methodically. Not only does it grab folx attention, it effectively grabs most viewers by the wrist and leads them thru a consistent journey to discover questions at the root of our nature. Questions without wrong answers. Questions that start with "what did that just make me feel?" and "why do those feelings make me uncomfortable?" questions where the answer is less important than the asking... Lastly, just as brilliant as bringing an audience to that place, the viewer is "let off the hook" and not left with those feelings by an ending tag. "Let's not talk about this again," back in the room waiting for the show, Malcolm being a dream, etc. We went on an 8 min journey, went somewhere that shouldn't have been scary but was, and now have permission to never think about it again. I believe that it's great art bc it's challenging those questions, but I think it's popular bc it's so successful at taking everyone down the same path until they're at the threshold of being "face to face" with yourself... And gives you the choice of independent introspection or not. Sorry for the long msg! I really loved your video and have been thinking about this side of dhmis for a while... I guess I just used your comments section to work all the way thru it!
JEEZ THIS IS GOOD! totally an underrated comment, I really appreciate you taking the time to write out your view! thank you for blessing me with this!!
for the web series, I think you're spot on on the metanarrative. You can break down episodes individually and see pretty plainly what becky and joe were criticizing, but you can't tie them together in a way that satisfies everything. You're actively encouraged to come up with your own theories about what's going on. To get creative with the world and these characters. Because it's not important if yellow guy actually ate his friend because a can of food and a steak told him to, it's not important what actually happened when red guy pulled the plug. The point is you can derive meaning from it in different ways, and get creative with it. Because creativity is our favourite idea.
Considering the apparent message in the first epsiode, I love that this video ends with an art teacher asking the creators questions about what people miconciev about their art..just..so many layers of ironic beauty in that! It is like the Bansky action piece! Somthing making a statement and presented to a certian audience but accidentally cuasing a much bigger version of that statment in act through the oblivous of that audiences unintended participation!
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I’ve always interpreted the car’s explanation of his drink as a description of petrol - or, to be more accurate, oil. “A liquid forged deep underground from the remains of ancient ones” is exactly how I could imagine someone explaining what oil is. It’s made from plant matter and animal remains from long ago, placed under extreme heat and pressure within the earth.
Yes! This was also the first thing that came into mind for me when i heard it. Im glad to see somebody already pointed it out 😊
...and oil/fossil fuels also create electricity without which these characters could not exist! (Nor would I be able to publicly theorise about them via this comment!! 😉)
Also, red guy is often pulling out electrical cords then in the car he messes up the petrol by using raisins. He is also the only one that is not a puppet. Hmmm! 🤔
Haha was about to comment this
I think the samw
Yeah that actually annoyed me a lot. Specially since oil references aren't new to the show. Its a common motif or easter egg.
Red just casually grabbing Roy and aggressively honking the horn at him before throwing him out of the car absolutely killed me
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@@Iloveitits yes hun I'm aware
@@Jane-ow7sr well, it helps other viewers of your comment with pinpointing this moment. I'm sure that there were no ill will present.
@@thatonescarecrow4692 it's not even the right pinpoint though. It's just the dude passive aggressively calling me a pigeon.
thats not roy he just looks similar
Duck telling Red to do something and all he comes up with is "you're fired" kills me
Isn't Red named Harry?
@@-kirby-2851 red is more fun
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I will always call him rerry.
@@-kirby-2851i remember their names being like the biggest mystery ever and you just leave this here???
The Image of Roy, mumbling "yum, yum" ominously,...walking out of frame,...then screaming "YUM YUM YUM"(vocal fry and all) while blood and sinew splatter against the still closing door...is hands down my favorite moment in DHMIS. Period.
@@shyviolets that's like if g man just started dancing in hl3
My favorite part was when Roy says absolutely nothing to his son except "MEH" before shoving him out of the way.
YUM YUM YUM
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I just realized the whole thing with Yellow Guy and the batteries is a lot like the book “Flowers For Algernon” (idk if I spelled that correctly). He learned enough to realize that he had been unaware of the world around him, then had it stripped away in front of his eyes leaving him feeling vaguely empty without being able to process why
That's actually a really good comparison and probably why I liked the ending so much lol!
@Expanding Uranus Thanks for keeping things on-topic :) Also not sure where you are but I was in eighth grade not too long ago and we read that book in full
@Expanding Uranus man's complaining about actual nothingness lmao
@expandinguranus3541 you clearly have some baggage you should process somewhere not on TH-cam comments. Like, perhaps some professional help? 🙏
@expandinguranus3541 you're right: I don't like you and that is my problem.
In Episode 5, I think the stange black liquid that the Car Man was drinking was supposed to be a joke about oil. The reason he says the gang can't make it because "it was forged under the Earth by the ancient ones" is because oil is literally made underground by the remains of ancient animals.
yeah i was thinking that too lol. surprised it was never mentioned here. though, i suppose that doesn't inherently mean that the ancient ones the lamp mentioned aren't _also_ dinosaurs and other ancient animals.
Yep, thats why also in an episode it says they go there when they die, cuz corpses transform into oil
I was thinking the same thing
I thought it was coffee
@@budcat64xd88 They do a similar joke with Coffee in the first episode.
For me the appeal of the episode with Warren the eagle, is that we ALL know someone who's just like Warren, he embodies the most relatable aspects of hanging out with an asshole who tries to be your friend for his own benefit or ego, which makes it more satisfying to see him getting roasted and every other character acknowledging how much he sucks
I also loved how he captured the energy of those old anti-bullying campaigns. “Okay, stop” is *exactly* the sort of shit they would have shown us on the projectors at my old primary school, and *exactly* the sort of shit we would have immediately started taking the piss out of in the playground. It does a pretty good job of showing how irritating and ineffectual those anti-bullying programs were.
Don't tell me who I know or don't know! I'll knock u
exactly, I feel like the whole point of the episode was to feel like he was an annoying "friend" who made everything about him, he wasn't even with the ok stop anymore and is just intruding to feel better about himself
@@friendlyfriend2587 Isn't it Ironic that the anti-bullying ad parody, actually became a very accurate representation of toxic behaviors to watch out for?
It's also ironic because Warren has the best lessons of all the teachers. The other teachers' lessons were done with ulterior-motives. Warren's lessons were more positive, don't be bad to your friends. The issue being Warren is a bad friend without any self-awareness.
I do have to say I adore that the trio of DHMIS is canonically called a Clump, they’re just this strange little collection of toys who have to all be played with together to tell stories or make the lessons work.
I love the sound of that as well. In fact in many ways, all characters from across several forms of fiction (including "Don't Hug Me I'm Scared" of course) are all pretty much like toys to play around with (most especially through fan works where you can basically do pretty much whatever you want with them, through the power of your vast imagination).
They are really a clump of odd individuals
Clump - lump of clay 😁
This was a journey. My friend showed me this series maybe 6 years ago? She didn’t make it to 2021. The world wasn’t prepared for her eccentric brilliance, and she was endlessly lonely for that. The meta frustrations expressed by the artists reflect her struggle so vividly. Truly high art.
im so sorry for your loss, i bet she was an awesome person :)
Sounds like she wasn’t all that special as you’re making her out to be
@@SurvivingAnotherDay whether or not, may her rest in peace
@@SurvivingAnotherDay what the actual fuck is wrong with you?
you lyin
I liked when Lesley said “You’re not my real son!” I feel it added to the strangeness of her character. The sudden piano bang and harsh vocal shift made her come off as very intimidating, making her seem unhinged as she quickly shifts tones. You can say it is too direct but I don’t mind that, in fact, it could serve as an experiment. A lot of people think the case is cut and dry but seeing how a show can twist something in a way that makes sense but was also unpredictable and thinks outside the box in a way only the creators can is always fascinating to me. I really feel her character wouldn’t have impacted myself and others as hard without that scene. This series is more than just lore after all, and to ignore that closes out some interesting possibilities the creators may wish to explore.
I agree, the character of Lesley was quite impactful. The "lore implications" are not the focus here, it's the emotional crescendo of the series. The scene hits me with a message of: stop thinking about it, feel something. Both directed at YG but also the audience considering we are sharing YG's perspective. It's frightening for YG; the scene is disturbing, the character is being berated again for seeking answers. From a different perspective, it's funny; It's a grown woman yelling at a puppet!
This additional perspective, the meta-narrative/context, also changes the character of Lesley. In universe, she seems to represent a god-like entity compared to YG. She represents a flesh human, true life, the creator; ostensibly, the being with answers for YG. YG receives no answers, because Lesley is a character chained as much as any other- Her design always struck me as the creepiest part of DHMIS, I always saw her somehow as a puppet... Just like how the invisible people were moving the puppets, this actress too is being directed and pulled by invisible strings.
Even the creators of the show are being pulled by invisible strings.
@@TheBoboSamurai right?! I agree with just about everything you said. I also didn’t realize she was a puppet at first. Seriously, the biggest of props to the creators.
she scared the shit out of mw
DHMIS feels like it exists in a very similar artistic space to The Stanley Parable and Pathalogic. They're stories that tell you up front that there's no true meaning to find and no true lore to uncover, but do so in a way that invites you to look for one simply for the sake of looking.
The idea of a loop and the characters forgetting what everything was before the "reset" also reminds me of TSP too!
Stanley parable has no lore but i still want to know it
OH, DID U GET THE BROOM CLOSET ENDING? THEB ROOM CLOSET ENDING WAS MY FAVRITE!1 XD
@@StarField369 why do you speak like that
@@churrumaizzz its a joke from the game
You missed in the TV show ep II, when the duck is killed we see maggots coming from the corpse, much like the duck in the grave earlier in the episode, so it's very likely they wanted fans who watch closely to see that it is the original duck who was killed. Of course we see in episode 6 that duck is replaceable, interestingly there is only one drawer, so maybe only duck is replaceable?
I completly missed that. A very good spot!
@@InsideAMindInsideAMind in turn though, the original duck had his organs removed, so he wouldn't have been splurted like that. The shovel would also likely still have the maggots on it from digging up the original duck. They definitely did that to mess with people, though. And curiously, in episode 6, as yellow guy goes up the stairs, you can kind of make out Red Guy and Duck talking about Stain Edwards, which is interesting, after they say "What about that time-"
I don't think there are necessarily multiple ducks so much as different vessels - much like how she potentially made a new body for David according to that theory. It makes me think of episode 5 in the web series too where Duck is watching yellow guy on television. There seem to be multiple layers to the reality, and the puppets may well be literal "puppets" or avarars controlled by the original characters.
A lot seems to be hinting at a VR explanation, especially the reality break at episode 5, but who knows.
@@SisterRose This argument has some big issues. First, if Duck’s organs were actually removed, it wouldn’t make sense that he could relieve himself in the coffin. Second, Stain Edwards would not have the guts regardless as he is entirely a pink blob.
@@SisterRose the idea of it being VR doesnt work considering you literally see people puppetering the Rock teacher in the Big boys room in Ep.6 :V
@@honque2490 In my opinion, I think it was Duck who killed Stain because, let's be real here, Duck *would* kill Stain
1:24:10 I love when Roy shows up and says “it’s Roying time” and Roy’s all over the place
He royed over all of the family
let this meme die pls its not even funny anymore
@@chugdotpng5120 no
ITS SCHRADING TIME
@@Seen420 looks like he had a case of...royed rage
As someone who grew up with an abusive father I'd interpret Roy as a representation of an abusive/neglectful parent. Yes he does sometimes help his kid but most of the time he just ignores his kid or makes things worse
And when Roy did finally help his son, everyone was like "well he can't be *that* bad then."
I think he only helped his son for his own personal gain. To keep the show alive.
He represents an abusive and greedy producer or boss imo. He doesn’t care about his employees (our three favor traumatized boys) and only works for what *he* wants… the show, or in the case of the tv series, to return to it. He does this by hiding in the walls and trying to join the road-trip.
Have you ever noticed how Roy is seemingly never far from the main trio as well? its like no matter where the trio go, Roy is not too far behind yet doesnt try to guide any of the boys in the right direction during the lessons or stop disaster from happening unless he has something to gain like in the family episode. I think its allegorical of how Roy's influence is inescapable and just how neglectful and abusive he is to always be nearby but do nothing to stop things from getting out of hand. Its one thing to not be aware but he's fully aware of what's going on and still chooses to do nothing. Thats cruelty at that point.
and he only helps when it's convenient or the problem could affect him too
57:43 I think what made Clayhill feel so different to the first series wasn’t the lack of being stuck in a closed room and the claustrophobic feeling it brought with, but actually the idea of so many new characters living in such close quarters with the main three. These characters would take away from the solitude of the original web series that made it so unsettling- just 3 of them with little else existing around them. Of course, there are the teachers, but they were objects or bugs that were suddenly animate and vocal. Everything they said made little sense, frequently cut off the other characters and invalidated their opinions on the topics, only to return back to inanimate parts of the set or leave all together. They weren’t companions, they alienated the main three; confused them and there was seemingly no one else out there who could explain anything. This created that disturbing sense of the unknown and there being nothing else out there. Just a cycle of nonsensical lessons that end in horror. Clayhill didn’t capture that feeling, being a whole town with so many new characters existing amongst the main three.
I do also acknowledge that perhaps this was exactly what they meant by claustrophobic- being stuck in this world, alone and perplexed.
Struggled to get out my thoughts there so good luck deciphering whatever the hell I was thinking.
I think you summed up the point well.
You described it perfectly!
Personally I liked Clayhill, I understand it wasn't like the webseries but I still got some enjoyment out of it, I can't exactly explain it but there was a unique kind of feel that I got from Clayhill. I do understand disliking it though.
Btw it got cancelled because it was too political
My favourite part of clayhill was the teaser theme
A thing I noticed in the TV series is that in Episode 6 Red, normally the one to push back the hardest, more or less falls in line with the lesson quite quickly. I think of it as him being chastened by episode 5, whether he knows it or not; he tried to break out, tried to take control of his life, and was rewarded with only desolation and waste before being thrown back in the house. I realise it could also just be that Yellow's sudden shift in personality disturbs him and he's reaching for what's known and familiar in response
I think it comes down to each character’s motives for pushing back. Duck is clearly very self absorbed, and so when he doesn’t get what he wants he will start to push back. Yellow Guy is almost never at full capacity, and when he is, he can see through everything, and is just generally smarter than the storyline allows for, and as a result he pushes back in the pursuit of knowledge, of knowing the answers, of maybe helping himself and his friends to stop the cycle. Red Guy is generally just rather a depressive and bored with the life they’re currently living, and he pushes back when things are too much work, or occasionally, when given the chance to go somewhere else where he can be in control of himself, as a result, if you can give him the illusion of control, whether that be his own blood family, a blob, a high up position at a job, or the ability to play with electricity without anyone telling him what to do, he seems to be, satiated, in a way. And I think that holds true I’m the YT series too, Red Guy only started to push back when the computer steamrolls him hard as hell the whole episode.
@@MayvaAva That's one helluva lucid synopsis. Disagree on one point though. Red was essentially quietly dissenting from the jump, to the point where I consider "That sounds really boring" to be his unofficial catch phrase. I also think his tendency to escape into fantasies relating to freedom and autonomy and, well... escape, is because he is the least satisfied with their co-dependent "existence" (maybe even existence in general, considering him getting jealous that Duck died instead of him). He seems to give up on the notion of freedom and escape altogether after the road trip episode which I consider to be his final defeat and the conclusion of his story ark before the big finale where Yellow Guy goes into the red room to get answers from Laura Palmer only to receive riddles instead, before the big reveal that Yellow Guy is Bob now... er, I mean Roy.
@@UnvisibleINK oh yea that’s fair, I was mostly commenting on the red guy “usually being the one to push back” cause while true, I feel like it’s a bit more complicated than that, I agree with u mostly, not entirely but that’s just cause idk it all haha
@@MayvaAva Totally. I def agree that Red Guy isn't the default antagonist for every teacher, or necessarily the first guy to identify the absurdity of each episode. Green Guy being easy to agitate is just as often the catalyst for things going sideways. Also Yellow's valid confusion and frustration in the face of nonsense is also often a device they use to derail the teachers lesson and instigate a meta-narrative event.
Hope my comment didn't come across like I was disputing your opinion wholesale. Just attempted to underline that while I get your point that "Red Guy does X" is an incomplete picture considering they all actually do "X" at various points, I do also think that the themes of escapism and a general underlying demeanor of non-compliance/conformity are to me quite significant aspects of his character.
Considering I see some validity in each opinion I figured I'd try to bridge the gap between the two perspectives. :)
Damn there's some good character study happening in these comments
God that last couple of lines from episode two of the web series gives me chills to this day. Idk it’s so simple, everyone runs out of time, but there’s something about the way the lines are delivered is so chilling
To me, it's also the inevitability of time. The way the clock can't really intervene, after all, he's just a tool to tell the time, nothing more, nothing less. You can't argue or bargain with time itself.
That line has always sent chills even after all these years. I mean it's like a slap in our face by reminding us of our mortality, in the end we all will run out of time and die. The Time song is one of my favorite from the web series because it has lines such as this.
Memento Mori
and also the "It's out of my hands, I'm only a clock"...
I'm sure others have also mentioned this, but if you look closely at the duck who was decapitated, you can see worms surrounding his body. The only other time we saw worms that episode was in the coffin with the real duck, suggesting that some of the worms and burrowed into him and came out once he was killed, also seemingly confirming that it was the real duck who was killed.
Also i feel as if the claymation duck died it probably wouldn't have spilled blood and insides. It probably would have just been clay like the factory machine when the faulty clay thing was discarded.
Is there a "real" duck though? As shown in the TV series, Leslie keeps tons of "backups." Maybe every time one of the characters dies in the show, they die for real and are completely replaced by a 'clone' of sorts.
@@RachelJamesS_ I disagree for a couple reasons. 1. That clay thing in the factory was still entirely clay. Once the clay is fully molded into a duck guy, it may be indistinguishable even on the inside. 2. The show doesn't have this level of consistency with how the world works. It uses tons of callbacks and references to build an incredible tapestry of lore but mechanically I don't think they are trying to make a coherent mythology.
@@OtherworldlyOdd they also have cans of duck in the background and we know that those originally contained duck guy. So, this would make sense. The intro saying just three of us over and over does imply it might not be true expecally when you see them rewrite it to be fore when they end up with two duck guys.
I saw some comments saying that the creators confirmed that stain was the thing being experimented on by bigger boys in episode 6, idk if it’s true or not tho
I love episode 4 because of the return of the computer. It made Colin my new favorite character because he always sounds so happy (even when insulting Warren lol) and he's so much more friendly and supportive. I also love his full character design and the way he moves around. Also the "I love you! Goodbye!" Is my favorite thing ever it's so cute
YES I LOVE COLIN. I'm biased towards Colin and Tracy because of going into electrical engineering haha
I was planning on making Colin saying I LOVE YOU! GOODBYE! my ringtone but forgot until now!!!! I owe you
@@karak962 OMG THAT'S A GREAT IDEA FOR A RINGTONE IM TAKING YOUR IDEA NOW IM SO EVIL AHAHAHAHA
There's a massive contrast between the web series Colin and TV Show Colin. And I feel it ties back to Roy and his skewed view of children's programming. These puppets left behind from his mess were given new purpose by Leslie.
I think Lesleys dialogue represents the more common type of media, telling what you should be thinking, discouraging yellow guy from thinking on his own by giving him the answers.
The episode four slander is deeply upsetting to me, given it’s my favorite episode of the new series. I know not everyone gets it, but I think Warren is an absolutely hilarious character and he does actually have a deeper meaning. He’s a parasite. When he shows the slides depicting his backstory he paints his friends in an extremely negative light even though they don’t do anything to antagonize him. He’s deeply upset when they’re paying more attention to a kitten than him, and later when he shows them his business idea and they don’t invest in it he insinuates that they’re stupid and didn’t even listen to it. Because of how egotistical he is he loses his friends and his membership to the OK Stop organization, but continues to use their materials to give his manipulative lessons about friendship credibility. Since he’s generally annoying he’s desperate for friends to leech off of, which is what gives him the appearance of being sympathetic. That’s exactly how he draws people in. He gets into Yellow Guy’s brain and begins slowly taking over as soon as the characters in Yellow Guy’s mind begin showing him praise. Eventually he drives everyone away aside from Yellow Guy himself, who’s starting to catch onto his rouse. He tries to escape, and is chased by the grotesque worm form of Warren before finally being saved by Duck, one of his real friends.
Adding onto this regarding episode one: To me, this episode represents a real world problem similar to the first two episodes of the web series. The briefcase teacher tells the main characters that they can have any job they want, mimicking how most children are told that they can be anything they want when they grow up. Then when he leaves the main characters in the factory it shows that a lot of people can end up stuck in jobs they hate when they actually do grow up. The briefcase also shows being “unemployed” as synonymous with being pathetic and ignorant, in addition to the computer in episode four saying “freelancers deserve to die”. I think this represents how a lot of people look down upon freelancers as not having “real jobs”, and could reflect what the creators have gone through during their careers.
It's a good episode because for some it's relatable and cathartic to see it represented and mocked for how it is, and for others it'll actually serve as a lesson of red flags to watch out for
PEOPLE DONT LIKE EPISODE 4?!? i absolutely loved warren and the ending was hilarious!!
Warren has a job in HR departments everywhere
hmm, to me hurting a helpless animal or a loved one dying is deeply upsetting, if you consider that slander id suggest going back inside your cry closet . you are in fact the real life yellow guy smh
This show really is something great. Normally I hate it when creators leave their stories open ended but for DHMIS it really works well. It seems like much more of an intentional and impactful decision than how it feels for most other shows in my opinion. It also really does fit it with the story and help elevate it. Honestly a 10/10 job by the creators and an amazing video by you!
but for a second season it truly is a massive letdown if they just throw away all progression just in favor of keeping it open ended. especially with so much theory bait already held within a single season, a second one with 0 progression but only more theory bait ideas to generate MORE, different theories feels annoying, and makes the idea of theory crafting less interesting. ofc with Leslie, they can’t just throw her away… right? or what about the clay being able to create MORE of a character, or the idea of the people in the middle of the earth? i wouldn’t put it past them for the sake of keeping it opened ended to just keep it even more vague and throwing away other bait to avoid giving any answers. a theory is meant to create an idea of an ANSWER. so it’s extremely tricky for them to somehow not give enough away so you can still interpret the series in different ways, but not keep it so open ended that we have 0 definitive answers. it’s quite tricky, but doable and i have 100% faith. but i also have a nagging doubt that we will get definitive answers and a true story, just so they can breed “creativity” and theories for traction.
@@niconico9358why should it matter if we get an ending though? The show is clearly very cryptic in everything it does, so an open-ended ending would be right on theme
@@HarryBoSweets because if all that intrigue isn't actually leading to anything then what's the point. Whey should I be invested. Don't bait an audience with a story when there is none
@@fittinginisforjigsawpieces3141 if you don’t want to invest time into using puzzle pieces dotted around the show to come up with your own logical conclusion as to what it all means… then nobody is forcing you to do it or not
@@HarryBoSweets I mean I'd just like a satisfying conclusion to the mystery, I feel like that's not a steep ask
I've recently been getting back into ARGs and Unfiction - I forgot how much I loved them. You were the channel that introduced me to it all, and now you've posted again after a year. Words cannot express how much joy your channel has brought me over the years. I'm glad to see you back, Jamie. ❤️
Same here! It all started with the vids here about the Cloverfield ARG, and the rabbit holes only got deeper from there
Same
What's unfiction?
@@billblaski9523 own worlds of reality that are real to their character
It's just a dumb edgy art project it's not that deep
When Duck says to Red Guy that he is his best friend at the funeral he meant it.
It's proof in Episode V of the Web-Series where duck is the only one clearly disturbed by the lack of Red Guy's presence.
Also the twins hijacking the episode and derailing the show is also something I feel is done in Episode III of the web-series.
In the "internet" episode, the globe comes to life first, making us think that Globe is the teacher, but is then interrupted and hijacked by Colin the Computer.
I feel the only reason Red Guy is able to escape in Episode III and realise things aren't correct here is because Colin was not supposed to be the teacher, Red Guy was able to break free of the show because this is not what was rehearsed or planned.
I really want a season 2, they’re too talented to just end with one season of a TV show. They need more.
HE HAS RETURNED!
Also as someone who has fainted during a blood test being taken that blood transfusion scene is definitely accurate in capturing the feeling.
Same! I nearly passed out after having my blood taken but managed to stay awake, although I was very light headed afterwards.
It really knocks you out. 😂
As a person who collected blood professionally, I can tell you that FAR more people lost consciousness from the teeny finger-prick to test blood type and red blood cell count than from giving a whole pint of blood. It's all about whether you are stressed enough to go into shock. Had some trouble-makers at a school who always tried to run screaming into the donation room just to try and put everyone into a panic.
same :( im a hard stick even when hydrated...
Is your blood type gas
I almost passed out watching the scene because it emulated that feeling so well and I have an extreme needle phobia 😭😭💀
I really like episode 4 but for more of a personal reason. I used to dissociate a lot as coping mechanism and see a lot of those tendencies in Yellow Guy escaping into his mind to hangout with his brain friends. Warren invading Yellow’s personal safe space was terrifying to me because I could see myself in Yellow’s place. His own place of comfort being taken from him with nowhere to escape too.
Cringe
@@dissraps haha yeah. But at least people actually like being around me hun.
@@dissraps lol what u ok
I sadly relate to this fully, and I completely understand
Warren is absolutely terrifying
@@dissraps Damn, you dissing no one but yourself with a take that shit, chief. I'd tell you to do better but I can't help but wonder if you can.
I've never respected a person more than Jamie. The sheer amount of effort that goes into the videos is amazing
So you respect this internet guy more than you do anyone else in your life? Family, friends, and everything?
That’s a weird thing to say
Ok, @@D_Dupa
@Viscer4 true hahaha
@@D_Dupasome people do , some people’s lives are not very fun. But obviously the commenter were exaggerating so this conversation is null.
@@D_Dupa right? like damn what a strange channel to form such a deep parasocial relationship with lmao
Im only 20mins in but I cannot fully explain how funny "pesky bee" was to me as a kid
I get the whole "leaving it up to interpretation" angle and quite enjoy it in a lot of media but it also always has this bitter tinge to it of a never ending goose-chase. Like a forever ongoing will-they won't-they; and that part frustrates me.
I guess it stems from getting invested in the characters and just wanting their best :')
I think the bits of dialogue with Leslie are there to make the ending more devastating, asking even more questions while having the book - a possible answer to it all - dangling right in front of our eyes.
They said it best: Its great for us but probably terribly annoying the viewers.
I'm with you. It feels lazy to me. Like, they could just make stuff up, there's no rules, no coherent world. And while yes, that's the whole point, it also makes the whole thing comlpletely pointless. There's no point in theorizing, if there is no truth to be found. If it will never be revealed. As long as there may be a reveal at some point, you can work towards something, but as soon as the book got shredded, I lost all interest in any theories.
@@L0op See, I get your viewpoint bc I thought like that until recently too. Why theorize if there is no answer?
But I think it's important to see it from other people's viewpoints as well: Not everybody is like us, who spends time to theorize to get to a possible "RIGHT" conclusion, this is what makes it fun for us. I think the majority of ARGs & mystery-stories have mislead us into thinking that it HAS to be this way.
For others, this is just creative play. Theorizing doesn't have to be "right", that is not the goal, being right isn't fun to them. The goal is engaging with the source material - no matter if it's right or wrong - THIS is fun for them; and these people are absolutely hitting their goal.
So while for us, yes, this seems pointless; I've come around to realize that not everybody wants to be "right", some just want to be creative, make wild connections for the heck of it, engage with other theorists and be as creative as possible, just because they can :)
@@L0op Pointless? And what's the point of something fictional that has a "truth" to it? Event X or character Y may be canonical - but it's still completely made up! This isn't a question of "I have a riddle, can you figure out the answer?", that's an invention of the viewers. Planting strange references to things adds to a mystery, but that doesn't imply a solution.
Honestly, it sounds like the problem is on the receiving end. Sometimes, you just create things because you get a number of ideas and express them. Viewers making a whole bunch of assumptions about there being an underlying canon that will some day be confirmed is just... it's asking for something that was never promised in the first place. It's always irked me how a lot of fans of different works try to map out every single detail of whatever they are consuming. Overexplaining things can also completely ruin what makes things interesting in the first place. For me, having to delve into every detail and insisting on explanations often turns into people just being tedious and pedantic.
At the same time, I can accept that some people can't enjoy things the way I do, and really want answers, want coherency, want rules and so on. Enjoy whatever you want. But when that ends up with a critique like calling it "lazy", you're just in the wrong. You're just plain rude. And you're just diminishing the way others create and the way others enjoy consuming things. Somtimes a cigar is just a cigar - sometimes art is just art. Having a fun idea and running with it without creating a coherent plan isn't a bad thing.
@@ArancilI totally understand what you’re saying, and I think “lazy” is definitely the wrong word to use, because obviously the work that went into DHMIS is anything but lazy. Still, I understand why they would say that.
By dodging any sort of concrete answers or resolution, it seems like there never was any planning as far as the overall story goes. Because in reality, there isn’t a story. It’s just a bunch of random nonsense. It’s amazing, and creative, and funny and weird, but it’s nonsense. That’s where I feel calling it “lazy” is understandable, because it’s obvious there was no planning in the overall story. They had an interesting idea, and it works, but is ultimately unsatisfying to the audience. People are hard wired to want a beginning middle and end, it makes us feel secure, and it is satisfying to have an undeniable conclusion.
I think David Lynch rides the line perfectly, because, although he will never explain the true meanings of his movies, you know that they’re there, and it’s up to the audience to figure it out. With DHMIS, I think it’s clear there is no real meaning. The ambiguous nature of the lore, even according to the creators themselves, is ANNOYING to the audience. Yet, it’s fun for them? Honestly, knowing they’re getting off on intellectually constipating their audience is the more annoying part. Seriously, fuck them.
@@Guywithaclub I understand where youre both coming from
Im someone who likes some form of explanation. I dont need everything hand fed to my mouth . Imo tho without the mystery it just feels one note. *starts out childlike. Zany character shows up. Ends chaotic*. Which is fine to an extent but imo thats just content. Almost like a youtube short. For me the mystery kept me watching. Kept me wanting to find out whats happening.....for no payoff. To me it feels like if you are watching an ad on youtube and it constantly said "you can skip ad in 3 seconds" and then the ad ends before the timer ever hits zero. Just there to keep you engaged, not there to pay off
Your DHMIS videos were always by far my favorite. I'm extremely happy to see you tackle this series again!
Yes :,))
Baker Terry is a total chad. Not only is he the one and only Craig, which is honestly the best part of the series, but he answered the phone for fans in character for TWO WEEKS STRAIGHT??? love to see it
I really don't see how episode 4 is weak because of Warren (that's his name, not 'Eagle'), in fact he's what makes the episode the best one in my opinion thematically and meta-wise. Warren personifies toxic friendships, he makes everything about him without any consideration to what his 'friends' want, while also claiming that Yellow Guy's actual friends are horrible so he can isolate him; he's a literal parasite who gets in Yellow Guy's head and makes him depressed. Its also why he calls himself an eagle when he's a worm, he's pretending to be somethin he isn't.
Warren also represents those 'zero tolerance' anti-bullying programs in schools, and its also why he targets Yellow Guy who is depicted as being child-like; because that's who those programs wee claiming to help, when all they ever did was make the adults who put them in place feel better about themselves without them actually having to do anything. His advice on how to be a good friend is as shallow as a puddle and harmfully vague, and its clear he's just doing it for his own gain (he isn't affiliated with 'OK Stop' anymore but still uses their marketing)
The show isn't going out of its way to make Warren annoying, because that's *literally* what toxic friends are like, and I kinda feel like people who dislike episode 4 have never had to experience those types of people. As somebody who's had toxic friends, it's so cathardic for DHMIS to constantly dunk on Warren and point out what a prick he is.
Plus suggesting that the episode just be 20 minutes of the main trio being on the computer would have missed the point of the episode being called 'Friendship', if you want an episode where the trio are on the computer the entire time just watch the internet episode from the webseries.
I feel like everyone who's had to experience a Warren appreciates that episode a lot more.
I do hate Warren but he is also my favorite character.
When Warren first appears, he's smaller than Yellow Guy which I believe represents just how little control he has over Yellow Guy. When Warren enters his brain, he's taller than Yellow Guy, which shows that he is more of an influence on Yellow Guy's mental state, and how it slowly deteriorates when Warren is there. When Yellow Guy goes deeper into his mind, when he's just a ball, Warren shows up and is significantly larger. And then when Yellow Guy is in the black Void, Warren is completely massive with an incredibly creepy form before Duck gets Warren out of Yellow Guy's head. The way I also view Warren is also a Parasite, a thing that latches onto a victim and takes whatever it can to benefit itself without giving it back. Warren getting larger the deeper he gets into Yellow Guy's mind represents how much control he gets over Yellow Guy, because of how toxic and demanding he actually is.
Idk if this has been said by anyone else but that's just how I view Warren lol
Reminds me of hypocritical "woke" people. Crazy "pronouns" and toxic "positivity". Getting sucked into the propaganda rotting Yellow Guy away.
I feel like the whole point of the entire series is to establish that every theory is a correct theory. Set up by the very first episode, the creators seem to just want us to all think different things about it, "getting creative". And actually, I love it. I love when a creator doesn't tell us right from wrong because they let us use our creative mind to come up with the most amazingly absurd theories. With that I say, let's get creative. I love the vibes of this series and I think we have a good community behind it. Stay creative my friends!
honestly the condement store theory is my fav because it's so ridiculous that you can't help but be intrigued. perhaps the teachers being the different ways people prepare hot dogs in what order.
Many argue that ketchup doesn't belong on a hot dog, and Red nopes out of a lot of episodes. IT'S A GENUINELY INTERESTING TAKE.
In ep 3. I think Roy came for the food rather than yellow guy. I mean when he opens the door he takes a whiff, he doesn't even seem to acknowledge yellow guy. Yellow guy being saved seems to be the unintentional outcome rather than Roy's main intent. Roy just barged in and tried to eat, the family retaliated, and a bloody fight happened which Roy won. Yellow guy just took the opportunity and peace out. Roy is no hero his just hungry.
This is interesting, almost like a honey pot fly trap where his son brings in weird victims that he can destroy. Personally I saw it as a display of ownership, given Roy's previous presence in the web series and how important and mysterious he was there. His "interview" claims he's punishing his son (and there's a lot of evidence which supports this) so personally his entering the family and presumably eats them suggests to me that he's freeing Yellow Guy pointedly. There's stories of people with abusive parents who, when they get bullied in school or something, the parent scares the hell out of the bully. It seems like a caring gesture, but in actuality it's about control. "He's not yours, he's mine. You can't hurt him. Only I can."
I always thought that Roy took yellow guy's place as the 'mother' just for the food. That's why the family let yellow guy go.
@@mank89 I think in whatever world they are in there is a food shortage, that’s why they needed a mother to be able to order a family pack maybe it’s some sort of air dropped ration but Roy was waiting for the moment to snipe the loot
As Todd said in Bojack Horseman: "Isn't the point of art less what people put into it and more what people get out of it?"
Facing my fear of DHMIS through this video. Probably shouldn't have watched DHMIS when it first came out because it mildly traumatized child me lmao
That first episode gave me nightmares when I was a kid. It's not scary at all now.
Literally me too. I wanna get into dhmis, but it scared me as a kid so I'm watching this instead
The "And Roy" at the end gave me goosebumps. What a spectacular video, charting the series history, development and asking some brilliant questions. I love your interpretation of the true "message" of the series as well. That the show is merely a vehicle for you to express our own creativity, and function as training wheels until we are ready to create our own worlds, characters and stories. Incredible video, mate, and a spectacular nod to the creators of this series. Ufffff, after 2 hours of that, I'm not gonna lie: I might need a hug, I'm scared.
DHMIS is one of those things thats always stuck in my brain, usually in some random dark corner of it and then it comes out of hiding and takes over my life for a few days. its honestly a fascinating series
Same
Same, but I also have Salad Fingers sitting a bit farther into that same dark corner 🥴
THE LEGEND RETURNS! I've missed you so much dude, glad you're back! And one hell of a return at that!
It’s been out for like 10 minutes, are you saying you’ve seen the entire thing already?
@@revine9243 What are you talking about? They said it’s a hell of a return since it’s a bloody two hour long video on DHMIS
@@tigerbattle what if 5 minutes in it just turns into jamie shitting into a coffee pot?
@@revine9243 I laughed unreasonably hard at this.
@@revine9243 No, but from his past content I know full well that a year-long hiatus would produce something of great quality
I had almost given up hope that this channel would ever return but here you're with a movie length episode too! I am so excited I might start shrieking like a Howler Monkey with joy.
I’ve always been too afraid to watch these videos on TH-cam and have only seen small parts of them and a young girl, but watching this entire video today really made me want to watch the entire series and videos on channel 4. This is so awesome.
As someone with Adhd I find it difficult to sit down and watch a full something without skipping a part or just not watching all of it. But this video I sat down and watched the full 2 hours and 35 minutes without skipping. I was completely hyper fixated on what this guy was saying it made me have a new look on a few things. I can tell they put a lot of work into this one video with the music and the way they introduced a new part of the video with silence at first and then to ease into the next section of the video. All I'm saying is this is a masterpiece! : )
I was very iffy about the whole "every theory is correct" thing at first. But your video really put it in a way that I thought was really cool. The idea that the series is not only born of creativity, but designed to spark creativity in those who watch it. Sometimes it's a little bothersome that there isn't an answer, or that there is no overarching theme with a dark mystery, but sometimes that's ok. We just have to "get creative."
that "wait a minute. stop talking." will never get old, ever since i first saw it i've always laughed really hard at it
When the world needed him the most he came to conquer
The thing I like the most about “Don’t hug me I’m scared” is that it’s just so good at doing EXACTLY what it sets out to do.
To me DHMIS feels like real life. There’s so many complexities, unanswered questions, interesting adventures, and scary emotions/undertones already existing in the real world that DHMIS just feels like an accurate visual representation of what it’s like to simply be alive.
Okay here is the actual plot to DHMIS.
There's three of us
There's three of us
Look closely, you will see
There's three of us
Just three of us
There's him, and you, and me
And everyday, we all hang out
To find out what we talk about
And I'm the one that's over here
And I'm the one that's over here
And I am over here
I'm a talking crow-like thing
And I'm red and made of string
And I'm a yellow pig
And I'm the one who is quite tall
And I'm the one who's going bald
And I've gone bald as well
And every day's a new surprise
When you're learning with us guys
And we live in an actual nightmare!
I'm the one who had a dream
Where there was stuff like there was another me
And everything was lots of fun
And I went and saw the other ones
And there was a little lumpy one
And another whiny, middle one
And there was things that I had around
That I knew what they were, but I don't know now
And then it went away
That's three of us
Just three of us
Us three
beautiful.. (sniff) just beautiful
hmm olo
Thank you so much for playing the "Big Day" song in it's entirety, especially adding the part where Red and Yellow guy are at the funeral. Idk why but Red just pulling the chef's hat off of Yellow completes the whole joke. XD
Aww... Episode 4 is my favorite of the TV series. =)
Warren is probably the most nuanced teacher the series has had so far. Many people know someone like Warren - pushy, selfish, and blind to their faults. Whether they're actual narcissists, have severe social anxiety / no concept of social skills, affected by past trauma, or something else depends on the person, but whether they realize it or not, the same desire for friendship can work against them and push people away.
Yeah, he is deliberately off-putting; what kind of friendship teacher sucks at making friends? The worm design is likely a deliberate choice as well - a parasite, latching onto healthy friendships and sucking the life out of them (as we see with the Brain Friends).
The nuance comes from how much does Warren really "get" how his actions affect others. Does he KNOW he's hurting people and not care? Does he NOT know and just think no one knows how to be a "good friend" but him? Does he know and is TRYING to change, but is blind to how off-putting his actions can be?
I've heard from fans who watched this episode and asked themselves, "wait... am I a Warren?" They see something in him that is relatable - loneliness, desperation, misunderstanding social cues / norms, etc.
Heck, as someone with social anxiety, I wondered about that myself. =/
Quick aside: if someone reading this has asked themselves that question - if you're worried that you might be a Warren, you're probably not. =) Warren thinks his actions are normal / acceptable, so the fact that you might be questioning IF your actions negatively impact others... that shows you have more personal insight than Warren does, and are more open to positive change (if any needs to be made). As long as you're not forcing people to listen to your podcast, you should be okay. ;)
As far as the rest of the episode... I related to poor Yellow Guy so much, not getting an email from his friends =( and especially his withdrawal from disheartening social interaction to the comfort and safety of his imagination. I struggled with that so much growing up, and to some extent I'm still scared of social interaction and wonder how much people like / hate me.
Retreating into your imagination can be fine in small doses... but at some point you need to come out and be in the real world... and having real friends that like you for who you are is a priceless treasure. The best part is that you don't need to MAKE it happen like Warren does; it just kind of unfolds naturally. =)
I thought they handled the topic of Friendship in a way that only DHMIS could. It doesn't go the standard route of, say, SpongeBob SquarePants or My Little Pony - "here's how to be a good friend." Rather, they instead opt to:
~ make fun of hackneyed Anti-Bullying presentations,
~ make fun of overly saccharine preschool shows,
~ give an example of a BAD friend as the teacher, and
~ demonstrate how good friends help and care about each other without shoving it down the viewer's throat.
Bravo, DHMIS! You win an edible trophy! =D
TL;DR - Warren is a complex teacher that has people wondering if THEY are as bad as him, and anyone who has struggled with friendships can relate to Yellow Guy wanting to be with his Brain Friends. I thought it was very well-written, and the topic was handled with that distinctive DHMIS flair. It may not be for everyone, but I loved it! =)
Don't bother yourself with who likes dislikes you, if anyone has a problem, let it be just that.... their problem. I enjoyed what your input is and love the weird wacky and wonderful. Oh yeah and forgive those who torment you, for they have not travelled far in the realms of understanding 😜
@@jolenepetersen1113 Personally, given that your statement was a bit general, I don't disagree entirely, but do disagree strongly on some levels. If people you respect (honorable friends or peers) or who you are duty bound to love and nurture (your own children for example) grow weary of you, lose respect for you or come to dislike you then that's probably a sign that you have some issues you need to address. Dismissing everything as other people's problems can easily just be an excuse not to think, or an excuse to disregard the feelings of others. Avoiding toxicity is one thing, blowing smoke up your own butt is another. I would advocate familiarizing yourself with identifying which circumstance is which rather than just "tuning out the haters" so to speak. One of Warren's major personality flaws is that he suppresses and denies criticism and hides behind an ego-fantasy where he falsely believes/wishes himself to be an eagle.
I do agree though that tuning out the opinions of judgy strangers who don't even know you is worthwhile. Nobody should internalize demented shit like racial prejudice. Nobody should take a bad high school teacher to heart, or a shitty interaction with a rude salesperson. But speaking on my own behalf, I find it helpful to at least consider the grievances of people who have invested the time in getting to know me... and I'd hope they would do the same for me if I felt legitimately crapped off about something.
Not trying to give you grief about your comment. Just that without any further clarity I feel like your sentiment could have a detrimental effect on people who are actively looking for excuses to avoid accountability and shift blame on to others.
As someone with social phobias, Episode 4 really spoke to me in a lot of ways, from relating to Yellow to wondering if I was myself a Warren. This comment is a better analysis of that episode than I've seen any TH-camr make, kudos!
Thank you, i needed to hear that.
Honestly great message but if you really think I just sat through a 2 hour video about creepy puppets and now am gonna read an essay about friendship, you my friend are wrong
The way Mr. Transport described what he drinks, 'It was forged deep underground from the remnants of the ancient ones', is a not too horrible way of describing the process that actual oil is formed
I actually really liked the friendship episode… it portrays a deluded, narcissistic person claiming to be their friend when he only wants everything to be about him and for things to go only his way. There are other videos that go into this episode in detail. He is kind of gross looking and annoying but that is literally the point.
I don’t know if anybody else has had a similar theory to mine, but I like to think that the duck, red guy and yellow guy all represent different “ages” in a way. Yellow guy is the youngest, being a small, somewhat naive child, maybe 5 or 6. Duck is the middle child, maybe even a teenager/tween. He’s a bit more level-headed than yellow guy, but he still does immature things (he’s also pretty sassy and often is the one that breaks down first). Meanwhile, the red guy is obviously an adult. What’s the meaning behind all this?? No idea! Just spitting out some thoughts.
I agree that they do represnt different age ranges but Duck is clearly the elder. He is coded as a sort of conservative grandparent: reading right wing newpapers, having a strong admiration for the military and believing he is the voice of authority in the clump
I agree but personally I see it as yellow/red/duck as child/hound adult/elder like the other comment said.
Plus I think Leslie is supposed to represent stunted emotional age, if that makes sense. Plus she enforces the roles on them so she could represent tradition.
The series is so well balanced. Every episode is someone's favourite and someone else's least favourite
I think the issue with it being *entirely* up to interpretation though, despite them being coy about it, is that now they're introduced Lesley it'd be very hard for them to make a Season 2 without addressing it. I mean, they could, but the interest in theories would paradoxically dropped off if they just kept doing vague hints. They've created something less abstract than the web series that needs *some* more definite answers, or it doesn't pay off. We've seen this with plenty of series before.
I think it's a great opportunity to talk about the idea of just how much of a mystery should be revealed, and how much should be left up to interpretation. The truth is if you have a series that's constantly vague and ends without answers, it can actually be frustrating. Petscop was a wild ride to follow, but a lot of the big theory heads felt let down especially with some of the creator statements afterwards.
It's a difficult place they're in where revealing too much will ruin the atmosphere but revealing too little will become tedious and make it harder to be invested in the wider mystery and characters. Both options are creativity killers.
It's hard to imagine they won't capitalise on the success and do a second season. They seem to have more they want to do with these characters and this "world". But I'll be interested to see how they pull it off.
I think we will get more definitive answers with regards Lesley, Roy and Yellow Guy, and more hints at the nature of the world. We'll get a baseline explanation maybe at the very end that still leaves a lot up to interpretation of how it fits together. Things like the timeline I imagine will never be answered - as well as the individual smaller mysteries(like why Lily & Todney's house is so different from the Felt locations for example).
I think they will and will have to move towards a more definitive answer while still keeping the door open for a myriad of theories and alternate takes. And I don't envy being in that position. I could definitely understand leaving it as is. I don't think people would feel massively cheated in that case, but we'll always want more.
I completely agree, there's a distinction between designing a narrative with very sparse hints, and random hints or events without actual connection. In my opinion they are getting to close to something that *feels* like the later. The series is by no means bad, but how they deal with season 2 could make or break the whole thing. They've put themselves in a tricky spot that's challenging. As an exercise, if I tried to continue the series it's not obvious to me how I could write it in a way that's actually satisfying with a pay off that makes sense.
this was a great read, but i just wanted to point out petscop didnt really have any answers because it was just based on a real life tragedy/death
@@sexygirlmax2019 What?
@@sexygirlmax2019 didn't the creator disprove that theory? I've heard that the creator came to regret putting those details in because of how it mislead theorists into fixating on them.
don't think it will have another season. If we see more if the franchise, it will most likely be a musical.
i love how you break down some things on the production side of things, so much i’ve never seen covered! great video, keep it up and i’m glad you’re back.
The best part in the whole series:
"IDIOT, YOU RUINED IT I WILL NEVER SEE THAT SKELETON AGAIN"
**intensive fight in the background**
I love it because it's the only time they're shown as actually full on BRAWLING. Red Guy full on smashes a bottle.
I watched this at 3-4am and God it's still so nice and creepy. Lovely video! Thank you so much for sharing this piece with us!
Warren the Eagle grows on me more and more every rewatch. Honestly even just for the main 3 joking about him. And I love the Brain Friends segment
This 2 hour return after over a year of no uploads on a series that you haven’t covered in around half a decade is one of the best things you’ve ever done. thank you so much for all of the effort and dedication you put into your videos for us
My favorite moment and one that often goes overlooked is the “worm in your brain” song, I think it so perfectly incapsulates who the characters are and the tone of the show. Also surprisingly catchy wish it went in for longer
I did the same course as them at the same Uni (a few years later) and can completely understand why they made that video about creativity... Never before have I had tutors micromanage what we can and can't do/ what mediums are and are not allowed because they aren't "artistic" or whatever. They were so weird about what was and wasn't considered interesting or creative it was so stifling. (they also didn't understand the internet and how important it was for artists... in 2016!)
I considered myself a pretty diehard fan of this series, and now even more so! This analysis has given me much more insight into the show as a whole and on the behind the scenes throughout the years as well. Thank you for posting this! Both this video and the series are super fun and inspiring to watch, especially as an aspiring online horror writer! 💛
I love how in depth you are with this. Takes me back to your video on "Inside Number 9". I never watched this series but I've seen some theory videos and thought that was enough. Seeing all of the extra details you put into this makes me realize how much I missed by not watching it myself.
Thank you for putting so much work into making all of your videos so entertaining and informative.
Honestly inside number 9 was the video that got me into his rabbit hole lmao
@@ShuTheIdiot I forget which one was my first but that one is easily one of my favorites. All of them are just so good though. I really enjoy Jamie’s calm tone. And even though he doesn’t get overly excited you can tell he has a passion for what he does and what he talks about.
Jamie has talked about how summarizing ARGs and doing theories and what not wasnt his original intention for the channel. Instead, it was supposed to be the name going inside the mind of the creator. If you remember the Chuck Tingle video that is what I think Jamie most wanted to do, interviewing the person and taking a deep dive into their content. I think this video is the perfect blend of both and I hope he is truly glad and happy with what he has done... because what a worthwhile wait it has been.
Thanks Jamie.
I'm pretty sure that the hot black water is meant to be coffee and the transport teacher's black liquid drink is oil. I think, "forged far beneath the earth by the ancient ones" is supposed to be dinosaurs decaying into oil by pressure far under ground. Plus, what do a lot of transportation vehicles need for fuel? (or in other works "drink") Oil, petroleum, coal, etc. But this is just my theory.
"forged from the last remnants of the ancient ones" definitely sounds like oil to me.
The Ancients Ones being dinosaurs and it was 'forged' deep in the earth under great heat and pressure.
Your explanation of the meaning behind the original 6 videos is way better than any other I've heard.
I actually really enjoyed episode 4 because I felt as I was able to learn more about yellow guy and the idea that he had to go to a safe place to escape reality is something I feel like a lot of people can relate to. Also the worm or “eagle” was definitely annoying but in the best way possible as that was his character, a pest who literally made the poor shy guy die 😭Final thing to add is I laughed so much in the scene where all the dream friends leave because of how annoying the worm is.
In episode IV, i think it still talks about teachers; the key is in the "Don't touch me" part, where some teachers may feel uncomfortable by students asking questions that are out of their bounds. Usually becoming stubborn as their pride and authority has been attacked since they don't have an answer.
This is a true story.
30 minutes ago, I looked upon "Inside a Mind" wondering when his next upload would be, I'd be fine without one however this notion made me incredibly upset, it was only until I took a final glance I noticed a new upload!
I'm so happy that you're back.
And thus, he returns as if a year hasn't passed.
What a legend.
Nobody really talks about this but I love the detail of yellow guy laughing while shredding the book. It almost sounds like he’s crying behind a fake or controlled laugh.
I really liked the friendship episode, the claymation was creative. And I think the message about toxic friends was interesting.
my favourite episode is the friendship one, having dealt with people exactly like warren the ~~worm~~ eagle, its so accurate it, the episode feels like it slows down when he appears because thats how you feel when you interact with a friend like him
Your last few sentences brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for presenting this series from that perspective. Focusing on the beauty of creativity creating creativity...
Wowza! This was a great returning episode!
Really happy I got to relive this whole show, and I’m also happy to hear from you again!
Captivating the whole time, and I’m excited to see what you’re going to cover next, man. Thank you!!
Actually episode 4 is my favorite, i have a relative just like that, so i can really appreciate the details and the catharsis.
Also, the black liquis is so clearly petroleum, you know...made from the remenants of ancient ones aka dinasours etc? i swear, the show is pretty clear
I definitely think the 2nd making of the show and the one that actually came out captured the world and feeling of Don't hug me I'm scared PERFECTLY, even with the bigger budget they managed to give off that eerie hopelessness the original web series had
With the massive surge of youtube content since the show's move away from the platform to TV, there really have been a lot of new, creative interpretations. I haven't seen it all, of course, so I can't name a full list of my favourite ideas, but one thing I will always be impressed by with the fan theories and the show in general, is how they really keep the series grounded in what have been its roots since episode 1. After all, it always ends up right back at home.
while i like the idea that “the point of it is to have no point” and i think it works well for the short web series, i’m not convinced it will work for the much longer show, i just feel like it will end up feeling pointless and unsatisfying. either way i’m sure they’ll do an amazing job in s2 (and maybe beyond?)
fantastic video, I remember watching the very first don't hug me I'm scared with my brother when I was just 7 years old, and he was 4 and I just remember that episode scaring us so much and how we told our parents about it. But to see how far this series has come is insane to me.
I remember this being really popular in the 2010s but I was unfortunately going through my "I'm not like other kids" age and so avoided this. Now as an adult I'm interested again but it just feels like there's so much to this Fandom. So thank you for making a nice cohesive video explaining it.
Both "seasons" ep 3 absolutely shook me to my core and made me drop the series for a solid two weeks when they came out, even 6 years apart
Lovely to see you back! I've been obsessed with DHMIS lately and this was just perfect! I love your conclusion of creativity. That's always one I can get behind.
My own thought: While the episode with Warren isn't my favorite, I do like it simply because it felt like I was watching Yellow Guy experience dissociation. It's something I deal with whenever things get overwhelming and it's become incredibly pervasive in my life. I have a hard time hanging out with friends or family because I get overwhelmed and then dissociation kicks in. I can't feel my own thoughts, my body, my emotions. When people ask me how I'm doing I automatically answer "I'm fine" because I *don't know* how I'm feeling. It's like the entire concept of me doesn't exist in those moments.
I used to use my inner world as an escape, making up stories and characters that could distract me from how terrible I felt. However when the real world things got worse, that inner world slowly died. I couldn't feel the characters or setting as well as I used to, because I was exhausted. It hurt to try and escape into something that didn't help, so I stopped imagining them - And it made me even more miserable. It was like a terrible spiral that didn't stop until my environment changed.
Warren, Red Guy and Duck in that episode all act like people I've known and it made me happy to see Red and Duck actually care (in the capacity they can) and actively try to help.
Jamie really just descended from the skies to drop a 2 hour video to then return to the plane he once came
- returns
- drops 2 hour video covering DHMIS, a classic of the channel
- refuses to elaborates
- leaves
@@magma_fire_bagwan true
crazy how in the time since the last video, i read and understood the entirety of homestuck, became a lesbian, had a organ removed and bought a massive art tab. still though i never stopped loving this channel.
Home stuck 2 isint canon home stuck 2 isint canon home stuck 2 isint canon
@@mattgroening8872 bbygirl its okay i know
Became?
@@MyHandleIsAplaceholder do you think i was born wanting to eat out a woman
@@MyHandleIsAplaceholder Thats how it works
I didn’t realized that the video was 2 hour long until the very end when you said it, and I was pretty shocked 🤣💖✨
I didn’t even feel the time, loved the way you talked and explained every detail!💞
Yellow: *getting his hand chopped off in a machine*
Duck: Do something!
Red: You're fired!
Duck: Not THAT!
That fucking killed me
I love your videos! please don’t stop, they are like my bread and butter
Legit love that you talk about the "crazy" section of the original short - because while I know a lot of people treat it like things getting dark or evil or whatever... it always struck me as rapturous and chaotic.
Also... I think it might be significant that DHMIS 3 was made around the time that the Same Sex Marriage act was being debated and finalised in the UK. There was a lot of very archaic notions about marriage being voiced publicly at the time as opponents tried to explain exactly what their problem with it was. Makes me wonder if that was an influence on it.
I know it's hard to believe but the entirety of the world doesn't revolve around gays and dudes in dresses my guy you aren't that important
@@dissraps - Lol, I'm referring to an episode that specifically talks about unconventional vs conventional relationships, a subject that's mentioned in this video, and which came out shortly after a fairly significant moment in LGBT equality in the UK, but maybe that's the same as "the entirety of the world", huh?
Sounds like you're the one with the problem here.
I went in to this expecting theory and attempts at explanations of the lore and story. But instead I was given a rundown on themes, ideas, and philosophy behind the core of the show and it's narrative. It was unexpected but very pleasant surprise. Thank you for helping to gather, summarize, and make these ideas more digestible. As someone who never watched the show because of anxiety, being able to get a more basic and general understanding of the show and what it's presenting (without the fear and unease just watching the show) makes me love the show even more
I usually find it harder to watch a whole video through and through. But this video was so well pit together and so engaging! I live that you pointed out things I never noticed! Thank you!
We don't deserve youtubers like thsi fr lmao, you put so much hard work into this man. Love it, keep it up
First off, incredible research and thorough presentation of all this! I've been fairly obsessed w DHMIS from the early days and you shared things here that I didn't know!
I think you honed in on the truth that it the artists have created an incredibly complex thing that is intentionally inconclusive and perplexing. They say things like "every theory is right" bc the thesis of the project is make people think and explore what's going on. It's fun to theorize on what it's about, but that's only a splinter of the greater purpose that challenges folks to make sense of their feelings after seeing dhmis.
I've watched a ton of reactions to this both in person and on YT, and something I've never heard anyone discuss is the perfection of timing thruout... Esp in the original shorts.
They set this familiar stage, folks watching for the first time often have heard this is a horror show, but feel like they've been tricked thru the slow build.. Ep1 starts so familiar to kids programming I've never seen anyone not drop their guard. "That sounds really boring," and "Green is not a creative color," show a hint of satire cluing a viewer in that it's not for kids... Then the full stop when the clown drowns in oil jolts everyone I've seen react to this in a "wait, what's going on!?" kind of way. The teacher waits just long enough to spark a thought before redirecting back into the innocent song.. Which starts dropping absurd humor for folks to catch and disarm once again... Until they all "listen to their heart/brain/rain voices" in the final sequence.. Universally making first time viewers incredibly uncomfortable and feel disturbed. Then, after all that! There is one last little musical tag from the disarming song saying to not talk about it.. Musical sting. Elegantly giving the viewer permission to walk away from questioning/exploring the complicated feelings the last 90seconds had suddenly and unexpectedly been wrenched from the depths of consciousness. Ep2 seems to know you "know what to expect now," and embraces the new viewer in the lesson in some brilliantly subtle ways.. Like the clock ticking from the jump. For ex, I would guess most folks find a clock ticking either soothing or distracting. Both accomplish the goal here of helping a viewer drop their guard. This lesson never slows down, promptly zigs after any line that seems off, and tears the viewers attention between exploring that weird thing just said and keeping up with the lesson... Building to Duck's existential view of time that's drown out by an ear splitting alarm from the teacher followed by the aging segment that just overwhelms any thoughtful processing of what Duck said or why Tony shut him up... Ultimately ending with the same pacifying noise of the ticking clock.
Beyond whatever it means, these bits are intended to make an audience ask 2 of the fundamental questions at the root of Art. "what am I looking at here?" and "why does it make me feel the way I do?"
Not only does dhmis do this masterfully, it seems to consistently walk folks down the same path of discovery, making the same first impressions over and over. While folks say dhmis is upsetting and disturbing bc it's gore/raw meat/absurdity/etc, that's merely superficial. What really makes Dhmis upsetting is the way it subverts expectations thus challenging deeply engrained ideas we generally don't confront. Tgerećs this unspoken rule of sticking with the status quo, not to question what we're taught, just do your job, live your life, watch silly TH-cam and it's fine. Dhmis gets under that shell and pokes at thoughts/beliefs we aren't supposed to question... And after observing dozens of folx react, I can say confidently that it does so methodically. Not only does it grab folx attention, it effectively grabs most viewers by the wrist and leads them thru a consistent journey to discover questions at the root of our nature. Questions without wrong answers. Questions that start with "what did that just make me feel?" and "why do those feelings make me uncomfortable?" questions where the answer is less important than the asking...
Lastly, just as brilliant as bringing an audience to that place, the viewer is "let off the hook" and not left with those feelings by an ending tag. "Let's not talk about this again," back in the room waiting for the show, Malcolm being a dream, etc. We went on an 8 min journey, went somewhere that shouldn't have been scary but was, and now have permission to never think about it again.
I believe that it's great art bc it's challenging those questions, but I think it's popular bc it's so successful at taking everyone down the same path until they're at the threshold of being "face to face" with yourself... And gives you the choice of independent introspection or not.
Sorry for the long msg! I really loved your video and have been thinking about this side of dhmis for a while... I guess I just used your comments section to work all the way thru it!
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JEEZ THIS IS GOOD! totally an underrated comment, I really appreciate you taking the time to write out your view! thank you for blessing me with this!!
one of the first TH-cam comments where I've learned a new word I've never seen or heard before, you were impressively in-depth with this
for the web series, I think you're spot on on the metanarrative. You can break down episodes individually and see pretty plainly what becky and joe were criticizing, but you can't tie them together in a way that satisfies everything. You're actively encouraged to come up with your own theories about what's going on. To get creative with the world and these characters. Because it's not important if yellow guy actually ate his friend because a can of food and a steak told him to, it's not important what actually happened when red guy pulled the plug. The point is you can derive meaning from it in different ways, and get creative with it. Because creativity is our favourite idea.
He’s back!!!! It’s been a long time, but I can’t wait to watch this!!
Jesus Christ it’s two hours holy
Considering the apparent message in the first epsiode, I love that this video ends with an art teacher asking the creators questions about what people miconciev about their art..just..so many layers of ironic beauty in that! It is like the Bansky action piece! Somthing making a statement and presented to a certian audience but accidentally cuasing a much bigger version of that statment in act through the oblivous of that audiences unintended participation!
Nothing I would rather spend 2 hours of my day doing - thank you for this!
missed your videos so much man, this felt like a real Christmas gift from the gods!!! hope you're doing well and enjoying the holidays!!!!