Bless you Tinman, this is Historic and Valuable to this generation and Future Generations to come. I have learned so much from you. I am a visual learner and you did an amazing job educating me on How To Port A Power Saw!!!
I totally agree with you about this. The only thing that would be better for me personally would be hands on with Tinman there to watch and confirm or correct me when needed but I learn best by doing.
GREAT Video, I especially like the part about a THOROUGH CLEANING - - - BEFORE ASSEMBLY. A lot of the newer or younger inexperienced Mechanics these days spend the least amount of time on Cleaning BUT, CLEANING is the MOST IMPORTANT aspect of rebuilding. I think it's more important that anything else you've done...IF IT'S NOT CLEAN - CLEAN - CLEAN then you just ruined all that work...That's why I claim it's "THEEE" Most Important phase of any rebuild. I like your thought process and how you explain things you're doing. You really are an EXCELLENT TEACHER!
A++!!! Man I've only got a few cylinders under my belt, with #3 cylinder&piston sitting here in front of me "ready" for install....I'm, well, *very* OCD about my edges/chamfering and prep in-general, as I believe with the kit-saws I'm using that prep & break-in are even more important, and I *thought* I had everything real well.....then I see you do the piston ring-grooves and realize I have never even considered mine!!! I do everything else to the piston you did, I even do exaggerated chamfering on exhaust side's top and intake side's skirt's bottom (because when exhaust opens it throws that piston 'cocked forward' as the air races out....or at least that's how I picture it :P ) Hell I even take 240g, then 400g, and run the top&bottom edges of my Caber rings, but never occurred to me to do the ring grooves (I even do the skirt sides :P ) Thanks as usual man, you've truly made this (porting/enhancement) an easy & simple venture for anyone willing to watch the videos, and with these bits being like $1 apiece on amazon, and walmart dremels being $20, a $50 total price-ceiling is plenty for the average owner to be able to do this ($10 of that is for Motoseal!!!)
Excellent series! I, and I'm sure a lot of others, appreciate you taking your time to show others how to get started in making a saw perform better. I'm looking forward to the finished product!
I've got a 4 liter cheapo ultrasonic cleaner that I clean all sorts of stuff with. It heats the soapy water and it's crazy the stuff it cleans out of a cylinder or piston. Worth snagging one. I also got all my parts in for the little project we've got going on. Hopefully it will be welded up and ready by the weekend.
Thanks again Tinman. I used a degree wheel last night for the first time and recorded the numbers on a saw I'm working on. It was easy and almost second nature because of what I have learned here.
Sanding that piston is huge... helps to get the oil on the walls...Donny Walker said that’s what Bob Walker says and he’s built a ton of logger saw’s... old Harvey says that it’s important...you say this is important... I’ve had great success over the past 12 years doing it just like that... so I’m going to do that extra detail work on every single one... no sense in doing anything 1/2 azzed.!!! LMFFAO! Another awesome video TinMan!!!
Tinmaaaaan, great series!! Camera work, spot on brother 👍. The preparation is always shown in the final product. Detailed work Tinman, always a pleasure to watch. Keep em coming ✌️
Thank you for sharing so much with us. An ultrasonic cleaner with soapy water will draw all of that debris out of your parts. A rinse with hot water and a blow dry with air will leave you with perfectly clean parts (esp. in the crevices that you can't reach).
Love this stuff Tinman! Everyone skips this kind of thing because they consider it too pedestrian, but to a beginner (especially to one without a local mentor) this stuff is more important than the rest of it!
I agree with you on honing/deglazing Hard Chrome cylinders. Too hard and brittle to hone in my opinion, at least with a stone or ball hone. There was a company that made 600 grit impregnated brushes (funny shaped flat bristles) that worked awesome. But I don't think they are still available. I only have 2 left and they are seldom the right size for the project underway. :( Can't beat hot water and dish soap for pre-assembly degreasing. Great video!
Back when I used to do sheet metal we would get a bushel of crabs on the weekend loaded with old bay Talk about painful you would find cuts you didn't know you had 🤣🤣
what do you mean by eating a lot of fines? referring to the piston 7:04 also, why not use a cylinder hone instead of sandpaper? an ultrasonic cleaner would clean that up well, even better than soap and water. I look forward to how to adjust a chainsaw carburetor
Tinman, your Series is absolutely great! The knowhow you share is kept as a secret by the guys in germany that port powersaws! Many thanks for sharing! I have just one question: you talked about widmen the bore for a screw with a wrecked thread an cut one for a bigger screw in. Ist there a reason for not using a helicoil thread-insert? They say that after applying a helicoil the thread is stronger than the original one.
I was surprised you didn't break the edges of the holes around the pin mount. What are your thoughts on cutting weight out of the piston? Lastly. Do the transfers feed through the holes around the piston pin? If so, would it be worth porting the holes? Thanks.
Did you by chance check ring end gap to see if the rings were within spec. Not sure about this saw model but for the price of a set of rings especially if it has a bunch of hours on it, I’d rather spend $20 and get new rings
Would anyone do anything different/special if building a MS460 to use as a mill mostly, I have to replace bearings and top end because it sat in the woods in Vermont for 4 years. I'm planning to use a big bore kit for it, and get a dual port exhaust....make sense?
I'm rebuilding a Stihl 070 for that purpose. I thaught that a saw running with max. 8000/8500 rpm would last longer when running on full throttle long times on slaps. Am I wrong?
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Bless you Tinman, this is Historic and Valuable to this generation and Future Generations to come.
I have learned so much from you. I am a visual learner and you did an amazing job educating me on How To Port A Power Saw!!!
I totally agree with you about this. The only thing that would be better for me personally would be hands on with Tinman there to watch and confirm or correct me when needed but I learn best by doing.
GREAT Video, I especially like the part about a THOROUGH CLEANING - - - BEFORE ASSEMBLY.
A lot of the newer or younger inexperienced Mechanics these days spend the least amount of time on Cleaning BUT, CLEANING is the MOST IMPORTANT aspect of rebuilding. I think it's more important that anything else you've done...IF IT'S NOT CLEAN - CLEAN - CLEAN then you just ruined all that work...That's why I claim it's "THEEE" Most Important phase of any rebuild.
I like your thought process and how you explain things you're doing.
You really are an EXCELLENT TEACHER!
This was great to watch all the way through. Thank you.
You are helping me no end with my first saw build husqvarna 254 thanks bro.
Great stuff Sir! Followed your step of a good clean.. added a twist with using a Mr. Clean pad in the soapy water to help clean everything up.
In high school auto shop we were taught to use an old piston ring broken in half to gently scrap the grooves for cleaning.
Thanks for the thorough cleaning demo, Tinman. Looking forward to more.
This has been a great series thank you
Love you separated the videos into parts. It is easy to go back to when you need a refresher! Thanks Tinman for making your videos easy to follow!
I can't wait to see this saw in the wood👍
I have seen every minute of this series. Fantastic job. My Dad was a logger in California in the 70'ies. He would enjoy your videos also I am sure.
I can’t wait to see the final product this has been a truly enjoyable Journey thank you for taking us with you Tinman
A++!!! Man I've only got a few cylinders under my belt, with #3 cylinder&piston sitting here in front of me "ready" for install....I'm, well, *very* OCD about my edges/chamfering and prep in-general, as I believe with the kit-saws I'm using that prep & break-in are even more important, and I *thought* I had everything real well.....then I see you do the piston ring-grooves and realize I have never even considered mine!!! I do everything else to the piston you did, I even do exaggerated chamfering on exhaust side's top and intake side's skirt's bottom (because when exhaust opens it throws that piston 'cocked forward' as the air races out....or at least that's how I picture it :P ) Hell I even take 240g, then 400g, and run the top&bottom edges of my Caber rings, but never occurred to me to do the ring grooves (I even do the skirt sides :P )
Thanks as usual man, you've truly made this (porting/enhancement) an easy & simple venture for anyone willing to watch the videos, and with these bits being like $1 apiece on amazon, and walmart dremels being $20, a $50 total price-ceiling is plenty for the average owner to be able to do this ($10 of that is for Motoseal!!!)
Looking forward to seeing this jewel in a big hardwood lawg! Thanks for showing all the steps! Looking forward to FNS! 👍👍👍👍🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🙏🙏🙏🙏
Excellent series! I, and I'm sure a lot of others, appreciate you taking your time to show others how to get started in making a saw perform better. I'm looking forward to the finished product!
Thanks you...I appreciate your time for doing this
Thanks for the soap and hot water trick things can never be to clean Cheers
thanks for sharing all this knowledge, i just picked up a 181se im going to try rebuilding for my first try.
181 is a great saw!!
I've got a 4 liter cheapo ultrasonic cleaner that I clean all sorts of stuff with. It heats the soapy water and it's crazy the stuff it cleans out of a cylinder or piston. Worth snagging one. I also got all my parts in for the little project we've got going on. Hopefully it will be welded up and ready by the weekend.
Right on buddy can't wait!!
Another good video Tinman! You should have been High School shop teacher but not much money in it. More money in being a Tinman.
Once again Tinman great video and love the whole series of how to port a powersaw.....thanks...
As always another great one in the series Tinman. Thank you for sharing.
just found your channel, great video....subscribed ..thumbs up !!
Thanks again Tinman.
I used a degree wheel last night for the first time and recorded the numbers on a saw I'm working on.
It was easy and almost second nature because of what I have learned here.
Sanding that piston is huge... helps to get the oil on the walls...Donny Walker said that’s what Bob Walker says and he’s built a ton of logger saw’s... old Harvey says that it’s important...you say this is important... I’ve had great success over the past 12 years doing it just like that... so I’m going to do that extra detail work on every single one... no sense in doing anything 1/2 azzed.!!! LMFFAO! Another awesome video TinMan!!!
Well done sir. I’m hooked on your videos. Keep up the great work.
Thanks brother for all that tips. For cleaning the cylinder and piston I use an ultrasonic cleaner! That makes it a lot easier! Stay healthy!
Tinmaaaaan, great series!! Camera work, spot on brother 👍. The preparation is always shown in the final product. Detailed work Tinman, always a pleasure to watch. Keep em coming ✌️
Thankyou
Thank you for sharing so much with us. An ultrasonic cleaner with soapy water will draw all of that debris out of your parts. A rinse with hot water and a blow dry with air will leave you with perfectly clean parts (esp. in the crevices that you can't reach).
Very nice explanation buddy! Hope all is well
That little heat gun trick was neato!!! Way better than beating your wrist pins lol
SAWS GOING TO RUN LIKE A CHAMP ,GREAT TIPS BUDDY
Putting mine together soon as my new rings come in. Thanks man
I just put my last cylinder in the dishwasher. That thing was even more clean than a new one...
Great video bud. Your doing a wonderful job. As always WORK SAFE!!!!😎
Awesome series would love to see your port work and numbers on McCullough sp70
Thanks Tinman.
Awesome series 👊
Thanks Tinman!
Tinman, i need to send you some pictures of a saw!
Tinman is THE man
Turd saw... thats up North humor 😂
Great information Tin! 👍😁
Great tips.I always bring my parts to the kitchen sink & wash them good.probaly one more reason why I'm divorced..lol.
Love this stuff Tinman! Everyone skips this kind of thing because they consider it too pedestrian, but to a beginner (especially to one without a local mentor) this stuff is more important than the rest of it!
Super explanatory!! Great work!!
I agree with you on honing/deglazing Hard Chrome cylinders. Too hard and brittle to hone in my opinion, at least with a stone or ball hone. There was a company that made 600 grit impregnated brushes (funny shaped flat bristles) that worked awesome. But I don't think they are still available. I only have 2 left and they are seldom the right size for the project underway. :( Can't beat hot water and dish soap for pre-assembly degreasing. Great video!
I think it is about time for the wife to get a new dishwasher use the old one for the shop LOL
The tin man arghh arghhh....nice
I like this school👍
Great video! Thanks Tinman! 🤙
Back when I used to do sheet metal we would get a bushel of crabs on the weekend loaded with old bay
Talk about painful you would find cuts you didn't know you had 🤣🤣
Maryland Monster Blue Channel Crabs:)
The turd saw will live bro
I have a titan saw and its still going strong
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Mantapppp
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what do you mean by eating a lot of fines? referring to the piston 7:04
also, why not use a cylinder hone instead of sandpaper?
an ultrasonic cleaner would clean that up well, even better than soap and water.
I look forward to how to adjust a chainsaw carburetor
Tinman, your Series is absolutely great! The knowhow you share is kept as a secret by the guys in germany that port powersaws! Many thanks for sharing! I have just one question: you talked about widmen the bore for a screw with a wrecked thread an cut one for a bigger screw in. Ist there a reason for not using a helicoil thread-insert? They say that after applying a helicoil the thread is stronger than the original one.
I was surprised you didn't break the edges of the holes around the pin mount.
What are your thoughts on cutting weight out of the piston?
Lastly. Do the transfers feed through the holes around the piston pin? If so, would it be worth porting the holes?
Thanks.
Thanks 😊
Comment from me today
I bet an ultrasonic cleaner would do a really nice job.
What about polishing ports with emery wheel then go to felt polish points with polish compound diamond then red rouge? makes it shinny as chrome ....
Did you by chance check ring end gap to see if the rings were within spec. Not sure about this saw model but for the price of a set of rings especially if it has a bunch of hours on it, I’d rather spend $20 and get new rings
I’m just curios why you don’t do this full time
Yeah buddy it went from being really cold to the last two days 60° before we get another snow storm and back down to the twenties again
Tinman how do you think an acetone bath would work out or would you still suggest hot soapy water for cleaning up cylinders and pistons?
I guess it depends on wether the aluminum likes the acetone.
@@tinmanssaws thank you for the quick response and wonderful information on your videos. I hope to put it to use once I get settled into my new home
@@tinmanssaws Pretty sure Non Chlorinated brake clean contains acetone.
Would anyone do anything different/special if building a MS460 to use as a mill mostly, I have to replace bearings and top end because it sat in the woods in Vermont for 4 years. I'm planning to use a big bore kit for it, and get a dual port exhaust....make sense?
I'm going to do milling saw bench talk very soon and discuss saws for milling.
Looking forward to that. Thanks a ton for your reply I know your busy.
I'm rebuilding a Stihl 070 for that purpose. I thaught that a saw running with max. 8000/8500 rpm would last longer when running on full throttle long times on slaps. Am I wrong?
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