Suhr Thornbuckers (Vs. Dimarzio PAF & ToneZone)
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- Not an in-depth review by any means. A quick comparison between the two sets so you can hear the difference (If any), in my Ibanez USRG10 w/Alder body.
The Thornbuckers are definitely lower output, but both sets are in the "patent-applied-for" vibe. With the Suhrs being a little bit more clear/defined & open.
Just "Full HB" positions, as i replaced the switch and used different wiring. Please tell me which one you like better. - เพลง
Thornbucker takes the win! More definition and clarity!
Love the thornbuckers! Great playing and video, I really appreciate all the work that goes in to making such a comparison 👍
It's a no lose situation. They all sound excellent. All about one's individual preference.
The Dimarzios sound higher output and handle the gain and distortion better. The Suhr pickups handle clarity so much better. So each has their clearly defined use.
The Tone Zone rules. My favorite pickup of all time.
Neck pickup was a tricky one, liked the Thorn in the bridge a lot better. Great video!
Las Suhr suenan más claras! Una delicia de sonido!
This comparison nailed it! Exactly what I was looking for. The Suhr pickups are so much more complex! Thanks for posting.
I've never seen anyone play Winger in a review before.
dat Seventeen riff - so crispy
Sizzlecrispy!
it was badass is what it was.. total.
I love Winger!
barndawg77 yea I like the hell out of that , sounded awesome .
In a basswood Ibanez, I've never heard better than the Tone Zone.
I hear ya on that one. My basswood charvels sound perfect with the TZ. I think if you have a basswood body and maple fretboard the TZ is the only way to go.
Tone wood means absolutely nothing.
@@ThePowerman121 tonewood is all if low power pickups
I like the compression and balance of sparkle and fatness of the Dimarzio PAF Pro. The Thornbucker does have more sparkle though, is more open & natural, and more dynamic/expressive with the pick attack. I can see you keeping both in different guitars. Side note, I feel like a SD Jazz may be tonally in the middle of these two.
Bridge position humbucker on the other hand... don't like either. They sound different clean (muddy vs thin) but with distortion, I feel both lack punch, clarity, and growl. I would recommend BKP Rebel Yell or BKP Holy Diver.
This comparison reflects my observations after installing the Suhr TBs in my LP. Completely different pickups you are comparing there. Both are great for different purposes, but i prefer the Thornbuckers for my LP. Low output and maximised clarity, it's very inspiring to play. They sound very dynamic and musical which your video shows i think. In my shred axe (JP6) i prefer the illuminators which should be closer to the TZ/AN but with a more open tone.
Agree! I think i'll eventually replace the Thornbuckers with SSH+ & SSV. I have them in other guitars and think are more suited for this type of guitar
great playing&demonstration on the tone of both pickups! I hate to use phrases like 'it sounds vintage blah blah' but even with the covers on, the TBs seem to have more bite, clarity, and attitude. Tone zone sounds more 80s.
As a huge DiMarzio fan, I really like the Thornbuckers on the clean and crunch. Once the higher gain stuff came in, they sounded extremely similar. Pretty sure you're not going wrong with either. I'd like to hear how the Suhr's stack up to the 36th Anniversary set. I do like those pickups.
Your videos are very helpfull thanks
Gotta get myself a Thornbucker!
Love both of them!!
great playing man! cheers!
Great playing! I really need to hear each pick up through a tube amp with no effects tho for a good comparison.
Las USRG tienen muy buena madera, y se nota que las Suhrs la aprovechan bien!
They're both great. I noticed a tiny bit more nuance with the Thornbucker, but the overall tone and power of the Tone Zone impressed me a bit more. You might consider lowering the pup height a tiny bit if using the Tone Zone.
Listening on good headphones the Thornbuckers are awesome! DiMarzios sound fine but a bit typical.
There's a subtle difference, but I agree, the Suhr are more defined... maybe is the little difference in output that makes them clearer...
Very good! Tks!👍
I had forgotten how good the classic Paf Pro sounded in the neck
I prefer the Thornbucker, but the dimarzios sound fantastic too!
Never tried the “standard” Thornbucker, but have tried and like the Thornbucker Plus.
The bridge DiMarzio reminded me of what I didn’t like when I had it in a guitar in the early 00’s. It sounded phlegmy and too mid-boosted, like the notes had a blurry halo around them.
Didn’t care for either neck pickup, but the Thornbucker sounded more more defined and I like a single-coil in the front of my guitars.
Nicholas Totoro I agree with you on most things
love the Reb Beach man!
Nice demonstration! Love the tone zone!
nice playing
And those are signature Ian Thornley pickups, and if you're not into Ian Thornley, I suggest buying the entire catalog of Big Wreck and his solo material.
I only have In Loving Memory Of. I really need to check out the rest of their discography.
I can't believe this is a Zoom G3 direct...
man, you must've spent a long time dialing/programming that thing to sound this good.
are you using a g3 multi effects pedal? if so what are your settings for recording as in the ones in global. also what about the buttons on the back near the outputs
First and foremost, great playing. My late little brother was an amazing guitarist and friends with Allan Holdsorth. He would have been impressed. I'm not a DiMarzio fan but strangely I preferred the Thornbucker in the neck, the Dimarzio in the bridge. Wonder if they are the same windings so you could combine...
Wow, I was fully expecting to hear the older design get taken down....but no.
Dimarzio has always stood out to me for two reasons. They voice their pickups to sound really clear. Highly distinguishable notes within chords, great string balance and plays well at most gain levels (there are certain bridge exceptions that don’t like clean but what the hell...that’s nothing new). I don’t necessarily need some godly, gifted from heaven tone straight off my pickups. I just need them to be clear and defined. The rest can be handled by my amp. That thing has to be good for SOMETHING aside from looking good behind me.
The other reason is finger feel. My strats don’t feel right without a tone zone s in the bridge. I feel like I’m fighting the guitar more often to get it to play certain things when I don’t have a dimarzio there. They just compress in a really musical, player-friendly way.
Almost 20 years later and I really haven’t found anything aftermarket that bests my tone zones. The only other pickups that really do it for me are the stock hfs and vintage bass in my old custom 24. Those pickups are the ONLY pickups that belong in that guitar.
Tone zone 1:10
Thornbucker 2:13
i prefer the thornbuckers!
I leaned towards the DiMarzio set
Dimarzio for me!
You play too good to let any pickup sound bad anyway. Charming riffs. :)
DiMarzio is the clear winner for me. It’s warmer and rounder. The Suhr sounds good but it’s rather ordinary.
DiMarzios wound so much better.
The TZ always wins to my ears 👍
Que chido.suenan las pastas suhr!! Ha por cierto yo tengo una igual verde como la tuya. Bueno la mia es otro verde mas limón. Por cierto me refiero a la playera de Mountan Dew jajajaja por que al rango de tus guitarras y pastillas ni de chiste jajaja Gran abrazo!!
Thornbucker too fizzy in the bridge, Dimarzio smokes it. But Thornbucker in the neck is way more musical than the Dimarzio. Great video comparison, thanks!
Thorns are definitely brighter. Bet they cut nice.
Both pickup combos sounded pretty similar, clear and articulate, until you played those tasty blues licks with the double stops and bends, there is where the thornbuckers really shined
Damned if I can hear the difference
+1 for DiMarzio
Suhr Thornbucker all the time :)
Minha carvin allan holdsworth veio com captadores de alto ganho. Estou pensando em colocar o thornbucker.
17! Nice!
i like both but if i had to choose im taking the Dimarzios, sweeter, hotter,less pick attack more note!
No bulshit, just great playing!! Thornbucker all the way I think.
How to instal thornbuckers?
DiMarzios ALWAYS sounds over compressed to my ear....like they are wound tightly with tiny wire and have this artificial compression going on around the notes. The Thronbucker sounds like a perfect PAF copy without all of that MUD and crud....just wide open and pure!!
Hello there great vid! Just wondering how you mounted the short leg thornbucker in the deeper ibanez route. Did you raise it up some how?
I would like to know that too.
Both great sounding as they are designed to be polar opposites of each other. Not much to compare. Only contrast.
That Winger song older than the girl it's about 😨
I saw Kip solo doing an acoustic set a couple months ago, and he sang the first chorus "She's only thirty-seven..."
Thornbucker for the win!
Hello, sir. I play in a cover band that ranges from Beatles and Eagles, to GnR and Scorpions. Do u think the Thornbuckers is an appropriate pickup that would be able to cover that range of tone, from cleans to high gain rock songs? Thanks for the great video.
Hey, mate! Well, perhaps I would get the thornbucker + for the bridge position, for those higher gain tones. The regular thornbucker can be a little too underwound for some applications!
Cheers!
More mids in the thorny...a little tighter and compressed....they all sound good though
Would the SUHR SSH+ sound good in the bridge position with an cleaner SUHR in the neck position? Also, would the SSH+ be similar to the Thornbucker?? Thanks for the video!
The SSV is pretty clean itself. Like a good PAF. If you wanted you can get an SSV- which is cleaner. That clean & warm. The thornbucker is based on that.
The SSH+ is hot and mid-heavy. I dont think it fits with a thornbucker, as the thorn is pretty clear and trebly
They both almost sound just alike it seemed like the thorn buckers were a bit brighter but barely
I like suhr more
Maybe it is just your setup, but I thought even the Tone Zone sounded thin on the "crunch". I mean not in a bad way, but based on the description I expected something much "thicker". On the lead the Tone Zone had more bass and a fuller sound. I was surprised that the Thornbucker didn't really sound more articulate. I thought it sounded pretty similar only a little thinner and muddier.
Individual notes stand out more clearly with Thornbucker. Rhythm parts less muddy.
Both clean neck tones sound pretty compressed -- I assume that's not the pickup but compression added in the signal chain?
Indeed! I do use comps first in the chain for clean tones. Mild one, tho!
+RicardoDiazHimself Thanks for the info and vid.
Thornbucker in the neck and tone zone in the bridge for me
Same here!
Muy buena interpretación. Felicitaciones. espero me puedas contestar 2 preguntas. 1) Los Thornbuckers tienen potenciometros de 250K o de 500K? y 2) leí que tienes también el combo SSH+SSV... qué diferencias encuentras entre ambos además de la salida? Un Saludo
la entrada, la ganancia,,,y hasta el bajo se escucha mucho mas pronunciados con los SSH+, SSV,,para mi son la combinacion perfecta para todo moderno, sea con mucha ganancia o menos...aunque los Tnornbuckers si tienen un vibe vendimia...
Nice playing first of all. I have taken a recent liking to the tour buckets as well. The D's still sound great with your playing abilities.
Thornbucker was brighter and louder
I literally could not hear a difference between the necks, and I prefer the TZ to the TB, but that's just personal taste. TB sounds great as well.
Neither PAF Pro nor the Thornbucker were designed for 24-fret guitars. Satriani used PAF Pro on his signature 22-fret Ibanez while Pete Thorn's signature Shur has 22 frets as well. To my ears, they both sounded thin and lifeless on 24-frets. I would go with one of Vai's or Petrucci's signature DiMarzios, since they both play on 24-fret guitars. Good comparisson overall though.
I think the thornbucker wins by large margin, more open, dynamic and organic sounding
Tone Zone wins! it has that aaahhh sound
Thornbucker all the way. Dimarzio put up a good fight though.
Seventeen!!!
Thornbucker...reminds of what the 'real' PAF sounded like.
You know you're not a real guitar player when you watch a pickup comparison, think "they sound the same" then scroll down and read the comments :D
Lol Thats me still after 28 years playing :)
Honestly, put some nickel covers on the DiMarzios, and these would be very, very similar sounding pickups. If someone already had these DiMarzios, I think the Thornbuckers would be a sideways move.
Definitely, there's only a slight difference between the Paf's and the Thornbuckers and you could easily make that up by adjusting the knobs on the amp a little.
Not really, mate. I actually didnt love the Thornbuckers over the SSV&SSH set, as the thorns are VERY vintage sounding. Super open and bright. Sounded almost single coil-like. Perhaps it wasnt translated here as well, but quite different from the PAF pro. I Think i would prefer the Paf pro on an ibanez. The Thornbucker are better for a 22 fret guitar, with different fuller-sounding bridge, like a vintage 2 post trem, instead of an zinc one like Ibanez usually uses.
RicardoDiazHimself Totally can relate to this, also, what everyone forgets is that the room you are in is getting a tad more volume and tone variations. Recordings on YT never really do sounds as much justice as we want them too.
what amp are you playing through here ?? it sounds really good !
I cant recall my setup, mate! Sorry! I use whatever I have plugged in. It may be my JSX, a Zoom G3, a POD, BIAS fx, etc
Dimarzio wins.. it got some special juice...
Hellburner yes I agree you can’t be a dimarzio humbuckers. I’ve saw videos where they sound better than Gibson pickups.
TONE ZONE ALL THE WAY !!!!!!!! a.k.a "BUZZ"
This is the regular Thornbucker, right?
The thornbuckers don't have the character of the tone zones. The DiMarzio pickups had a cool rock character. The thornbuckers seem like a low output pickup that is straight and true that would need a nice overdrive pedal to take it to where the tone zones are and maybe give it some character. I would use a EVH 5150 overdrive with the thornbuckers to spice the tone up.
What amp are you using?
What music /riff are u playing on crunch mode?
Seventeen by winger!
onzkicg she's only 17... 17!! hehe
The Thornbucker sounds nice! Dimarzio.....what can you say more.
thornbucker
any pedals here ?
For some reason I feel like drinking a Mountain Dew.
Awesome sounding pickups. I like them both. If I had to choose, I would go with Suhr because of nature of my playing ... but I would definitely keep Dimarzio on other guitar. 🌞 🤝 take a look at my channel 🌼
What was that first lick you played? So good.
Em9 to A major vamp :) kinda SRV vibe
Oh its an original lick? Wow sounds like it could be a dope song.
Did you played them on the same settings or you tried to pull out the best of both?
Same patch, setup, strings, etc. Of course both need very different setups for best performance. But always try to do a direct comparison.
@@RicardoDiazHimself Thanks for replay. For me suhr is little better in this comparison, dont know is it because they are more clear or just better. But DiMarzio's are still cool. If you can try Tone Zone and compare them with those Suhr for us community. :)
Thornbucker
Covered and Uncovered pickups will always be sound different.
Indeed! But a raw nickel cover affects the least. You can actually hear how these covered pickups sound even more open and trebly than the uncovered dimarzios
For the pricing TZ anytime. TB is good but it's overpricing.
To be honest I wouldn't even pay half its price for a TZ. The TB aren't overpriced, they have qualities no dimarzios have. And there are more expensive pickups for sure.
What amp or amp sim are you playing into?
The clean tone is thru a Blackface sim and the crunch is thru a cranked plexi sim!
The crunch on the bridge was very Van Halenish.. no wonder.. haha
😓I would say they're = good:)
Dimarzio Gravity Storm will fatten up that neck pickup tone ..
Rob A didn't like them, tbh. Sound rather generic, like the evos, kinda.
Prefer humbuckers that sound kinda single-ish, not high output
have you ever compared the SSV with the Thornbucker in the neck?
Rob A yes! Prefer the SSV for an all purpose pickup. But if I had an LP type guitar, I'd go for the thornbs. Love the SSV on the guitars I use it in
I have to wholly agree that Suhr pickups seem to have more harmonic content than any other maker I've tried. Vibrant and Alive. I have the DSH+ in my Washburn N4 which I love to bits. The Seymour Duncan 59er was just too scooped and spiky so the Gravity Storm fills in the mids like I needed but it also rounded the highs. A nice colored tone that I can live with on my thinnish, SS Cube as it compensates but as for honesty that would translate to a nice tube amp like a Victory V30 .. I should probably get back to the Suhr in the neck.