Long-lost ship found in Lake Huron, solving 128-year-old mystery

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  • Even for the Thunder Bay area, a perilous swath of northern Lake Huron off the Michigan coast that has devoured many a ship, the Ironton’s fate seems particularly cruel.
    The 191-foot (58-meter) cargo vessel collided with a grain hauler on a blustery night in September 1894, sinking both. The Ironton’s captain and six sailors clambered into a lifeboat but it was dragged to the bottom before they could detach it from the ship. Only two crewmen survived.
    The gravesite long eluded shipwreck hunters.
    Now, the mystery has been solved, officials with Thunder Bay National Marine Sanctuary in Alpena, Michigan, said Wednesday. The Associated Press obtained details of the discovery ahead of the announcement.
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ความคิดเห็น • 110

  • @Ro6entX
    @Ro6entX ปีที่แล้ว +70

    Better to keep the location a secret; it’ll be picked clean otherwise.

    • @garman1966
      @garman1966 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It wouldn't be hard to find where it is by looking at the people involved, the ship and it's movements over the years, records and so forth. I'll bet there are already divers who have at least explored it, and likely taken what they could of interest.

    • @codyking4848
      @codyking4848 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      You must not know about the diving community. This wreck has most likely been dived many many times before it was "rediscovered".

  • @Krztph1331
    @Krztph1331 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    If it's deep enough, it should be preserved like they're saying. Look, but don't touch. The still tethered life boats really hit to make the story complete.

  • @johncooper7663
    @johncooper7663 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    There's a glass bottom boat shipwreck tour that starts at the Thunder Bay harbor in Alpena. When I worked for the National Forest service in 2021, I sent families there when they were looking for things to do.

    • @doyoulovehimloretta1607
      @doyoulovehimloretta1607 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alpena girl here, love ❤️ that tour. The museum is great too!

  • @ender_slayer3
    @ender_slayer3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    They say Superior never gives up her dead, but all of the lakes cling to their own dead like gruesome trophies. I love my home state and appreciate the beauty of its lakes, but I also respect them and their power.

    • @GhostDad420
      @GhostDad420 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

  • @falcorthewonderdog2758
    @falcorthewonderdog2758 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    No need for any background music. This is why I didn't finish watching your video. So annoying

  • @SonicPhonic
    @SonicPhonic ปีที่แล้ว +36

    How awesome! It should be well preserved in fresh water. Last night I was watching a doc about the Swedish military flagship The Vasa, which sank in 1628 after sailing 1 km. It was retrieved after laying in Stockholm harbour for 370 years. Great find!

    • @MegaBait1616
      @MegaBait1616 ปีที่แล้ว

      Zebra Mussels now cover all the wrecks.........

    • @MegaBait1616
      @MegaBait1616 ปีที่แล้ว

      Next will be the Asian Carp....smh.

    • @user-fi9qo8lq3v
      @user-fi9qo8lq3v ปีที่แล้ว

      Us nords were a thousand years ahead of 99% of civilizations

  • @bryancreech1236
    @bryancreech1236 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Keep the place a secret! No has to know the right spot!!!!

    • @haywoodjay385
      @haywoodjay385 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      don't fool yourself, people already know where it is.. No biggy.

  • @犬の大将
    @犬の大将 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The lake it is said never gives up her dead from the skies November turn gloomy.

  • @oakenshadow6763
    @oakenshadow6763 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The fact the life boats were still tethered is so sad. They didn't have a chance.

  • @sgt_s4und3r54
    @sgt_s4und3r54 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As a kid, I enjoyed historical battle sites. Now, after studying war all these decades, "enjoy" is not the word I would use.

  • @mcreaper5158
    @mcreaper5158 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The sad thing is the invasive zebra mussels that now infest the Great Lakes are probably going to destroy all these well preserved wrecks in a matter of decades. They cover every inch of them and with all that added weight and degradation you can imagine the outcome.

    • @wantsome-zs5sq
      @wantsome-zs5sq ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The shipping industry is introducing new invader every six months to the great lakes.

  • @search4truth104
    @search4truth104 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Hundreds of feet down? That should pretty much eliminate most divers from going down?

    • @bradsanders407
      @bradsanders407 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Idk seemed fairly well lit for being hundreds of feet down.

    • @triggerbunny
      @triggerbunny ปีที่แล้ว +7

      As far as ocean water goes, sunlight is still very visible down to 200 meters (over 600ft) or so. Lake Huron's deepest point is around 750ft. Not sure if salt water or fresh water makes any difference in those numbers, but, there ya go.

    • @nealskrenes2612
      @nealskrenes2612 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bradsanders407lights on the ROV

    • @nealskrenes2612
      @nealskrenes2612 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yes, it’s near 300 feet, which is a technical dive, (most sport dive maximums are around 130 to 150 feet) which means hours coming up for a ~15 minute window on the wreck.

    • @Eza_yuta
      @Eza_yuta ปีที่แล้ว

      @@triggerbunny I have dream to dive at Porcupine bank (200 meters or so) do you think I will see the sea floor at that deep? I am really afraid that's it's very dark.

  • @thesaneparty4079
    @thesaneparty4079 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So our grandkids can enjoy these sites.
    What?

  • @richardthompson6366
    @richardthompson6366 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Imagine jumping in the lifeboat only to be dragged down with the ship.

    • @roguethefox4504
      @roguethefox4504 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@johnnyjericho8472 Imagine seeing a comment talking about seeing people say imagine under a comment saying imagine

    • @richardthompson6366
      @richardthompson6366 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@johnnyjericho8472 Everyday is imagination day.

    • @leftylou6070
      @leftylou6070 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I already imagined that before I got to your comment.

    • @legitbeans9078
      @legitbeans9078 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That would really be a DRAG

    • @hingedelephant
      @hingedelephant ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Imagine there’s no heaven.

  • @nw8000
    @nw8000 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It would seem that if you drop anchor anywhere on the great lakes you wont be far from a ship wreck

  • @xaero76
    @xaero76 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah Great idea! Preserve the site for future Generations by letting people go there....... Great Plan..................................

  • @Subpac_ww2
    @Subpac_ww2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Still waiting for the James C. Caruthers to be found. Largest lost wreck in the lakes at this time.

  • @capt.bart.roberts4975
    @capt.bart.roberts4975 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The water is dangerous. I've lived on The South Coast of England virtually all my life, any large body of water is dangerous. Storms and fogs make it even worse. Every winter when the freshers arrive at our local Universities, if we've bad storms, then out come the landsmen, who've never lived by the sea. To them water is what you see in a swimming pool or bath. Not many tonnes of moving liquid you can't breath in. Every year at least one or two will die playing tag with the waves.

    • @capt.bart.roberts4975
      @capt.bart.roberts4975 ปีที่แล้ว

      If they're are spectacularly unlucky, their friends will try to save them.

    • @Oddball5.0
      @Oddball5.0 ปีที่แล้ว

      The same thing happens here on the coast of North Carolina, but it’s usually vacationing landlubbers

  • @bakuaeater
    @bakuaeater ปีที่แล้ว +1

    while we can't find mh370

  • @trentvlak
    @trentvlak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AP is totally untrustworty.

  • @EVA-UNIT-13
    @EVA-UNIT-13 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't reveal the sight knowing people they'll flock to the area like crows and ruin this historical sight, should only be for study/research and observation

  • @fredwood1490
    @fredwood1490 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So, where is the grain hauler? Should be close by, shouldn't it?

    • @johnwatson3948
      @johnwatson3948 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      They don’t mention here - the “grain hauler” Ohio was discovered earlier in 2017 so they knew the area but still couldn’t find the Ironton for 2 years it must have ended up some distance away. The Ironton was just a schooner-barge being towed by another ship.

    • @R.J._Lewis
      @R.J._Lewis ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Depends on how the wrecks occurred and how long it took them to go down. Most sinkings aren't instant. Lots attempt to fight the process for hours or even days before they're forced to abandon ship. The other ship could potentially be miles away.

  • @beansmalone1305
    @beansmalone1305 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5 people died including the captain. The AP should have mentioned that in their story.

    • @golem550
      @golem550 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They did

  • @matthewa4593
    @matthewa4593 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haunting. Yet peaceful, and majestic.

  • @daniel_wilkinson
    @daniel_wilkinson ปีที่แล้ว +5

    So four years ago and we're just hearing about it now.

  • @davidbarnsley8486
    @davidbarnsley8486 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I would like to see a longer video on this and what about the other boat we’re is that

    • @bradsanders407
      @bradsanders407 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I know. Talk about playing 2nd fiddle.

    • @arche2460
      @arche2460 ปีที่แล้ว

      There almost definitely is one. Great Lakes shipwrecks are really popular, and there's a distinct fascination with them. I'm about to look for one myself. If the topic interests you in general, check out the channel "Big Old Boats"- they've got great vids

  • @Svensk7119
    @Svensk7119 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The volume is too low. Hard to hear.

  • @4729Punisher
    @4729Punisher ปีที่แล้ว

    Well we know from watching the morticians videos, the lake never gives up her dead.

  • @sabrinatscha2554
    @sabrinatscha2554 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So tragic 💔😞

  • @3rdFloorblog
    @3rdFloorblog ปีที่แล้ว +6

    These shipwrecks should treated & revered for what they are which are silent memorials of someone's tragic ending and hallow ground. These wrecks should be off-limits to divers.

    • @johncooper7663
      @johncooper7663 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Divers are the ones finding these wrecks and helping to manage them.

    • @johnflatt1288
      @johnflatt1288 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The diving community aren’t a bunch of disrespectful bandits. There’s a few bad apples but most are just interested in seeing things close up, not disturbing sites like this.

    • @palmbearoftexas2007
      @palmbearoftexas2007 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnflatt1288I could never. The deep, “dark”/low visibility unknown is terrifying. Can’t things still attack you in freshwater wrecks?

  • @gordonborsboom7460
    @gordonborsboom7460 ปีที่แล้ว

    Coated in Zebra muscles?

  • @JK-br1mu
    @JK-br1mu ปีที่แล้ว

    Was it lying next to the Prinz Eugen?

  • @rainman7992
    @rainman7992 ปีที่แล้ว

    ...where do ships go when they sink ?

  • @krisbecker8392
    @krisbecker8392 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome

  • @TheGreatSpl00ge
    @TheGreatSpl00ge ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is this song?

  • @therealdohos2607
    @therealdohos2607 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i really hope they will eventualy let ppl dive with specific certifiactions for documenting the inside.

  • @MissGimpsAlot
    @MissGimpsAlot ปีที่แล้ว

    This was not a helpful video.... The text on screen was very small and hard to read, you didn't make the story clear of what happened the the ship in the first place, nor how it was found, what is being done to preserve or study it now..... Sheesh. 👎👎

  • @kenziebender998
    @kenziebender998 ปีที่แล้ว

    For anyone who works in this field, what kind of benefits can we expect from successful finds like this? It is “just” an answer to a question or is there valuable research that we can do with wrecks like these?

  • @nancymcgee4776
    @nancymcgee4776 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating!

  • @ralphwatten2426
    @ralphwatten2426 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don't say where it is, don't put a buoy on it.

  • @jean-philippebouchard9506
    @jean-philippebouchard9506 ปีที่แล้ว

    They found it 4 years ago... Why are we hearing about it now? What is this non sense?

  • @legneil
    @legneil ปีที่แล้ว

    To bad we don’t take care of the needs of the people instead of the needs to save something lost many years ago.

  • @hanjizoe2648
    @hanjizoe2648 ปีที่แล้ว

    That one group of passengers that tried escaping the Britannic

  • @leftylou6070
    @leftylou6070 ปีที่แล้ว

    My grand pap was 6 years old when that tub went down.

  • @gaving.griffon2703
    @gaving.griffon2703 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happened to the "Ohio" though?

  • @robtim6553
    @robtim6553 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t mark it. Leave as a grave

  • @ricohernandezjr.2874
    @ricohernandezjr.2874 ปีที่แล้ว

    How deep is it?

  • @zakthewarcat3172
    @zakthewarcat3172 ปีที่แล้ว

    how deep is it

  • @bahbarino4479
    @bahbarino4479 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any idea of what that last image was…seemed like a sword !?

  • @brucejenner4800
    @brucejenner4800 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yep,try to protect it, because you WILL get unscrupulous divers trying to steal artifacts from it. I'm amazed that it's taken so long to find it? Are there no resources for a complete side-scan sonar search of the lake/lakes? Perhaps Robert Ballard could get interested!

    • @tessaducek5601
      @tessaducek5601 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup! Unfortunately. They did to the Titanic even though originally woodshole wanted it left alone.
      That didn't last.
      Not divers in the regular sense.

  • @Smarty1171
    @Smarty1171 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can you enjoy the site if you don’t know where it is?

    • @raskfel555
      @raskfel555 ปีที่แล้ว

      they are taking photo's for documentation , after which they will place a buoy over it so divers can see it

    • @Smarty1171
      @Smarty1171 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@raskfel555 oh ok. They discovered this on 2019 and started taking photos then. I guess I am impatient. Three years is a long time to wait.

    • @mitchconner403
      @mitchconner403 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since it sunk before world war 2 the metal is low background steel,
      it has not been exposed to any radioactive particles.
      the metal is very valuable and it would be stolen by salvagers if people knew the location

  • @DebbieOnTheSpot
    @DebbieOnTheSpot ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Imagine if we spent this kind of money on our veterans

  • @philoctetes_wordsworth
    @philoctetes_wordsworth ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow. I wish texas had history that was not evil. Everything here is terrible. Nothing to be proud of…

  • @sipioc
    @sipioc ปีที่แล้ว

    Found in Lake Huron…which is weird because it sank in the Mediterranean.

    • @rand49er
      @rand49er ปีที่แล้ว

      It's all that fresh water in the Mediterranean.

  • @mattslash6918
    @mattslash6918 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why did it take 3 years to tell us?

    • @richardthompson6366
      @richardthompson6366 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Time to look for anything valuable.

    • @wdavis6814
      @wdavis6814 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just a guess: probably to confirm it, study it, and take any artifacts for official study/preservation so they aren't stolen.

    • @logansylvester8093
      @logansylvester8093 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because they don't want grave robbers stealing things while they are documenting

    • @jamesborck5908
      @jamesborck5908 ปีที่แล้ว

      Covid they didn’t want the remote control vehicle to catch it

  • @dr.lumpypants3530
    @dr.lumpypants3530 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh you’re the sports ranking people

  • @meatisadelicacy
    @meatisadelicacy ปีที่แล้ว

    Kinda feel like it shouldn't be protected so future generations can "enjoy" that shipwreck and final resting place. But maybe that's just me. It should be protected, just not for enjoyment.

  • @phucknuts.7065
    @phucknuts.7065 ปีที่แล้ว

    They should use Kevlar balloons and raise it