No. 117 - Oil Lamps - Alternate Fuels For EMERGENCIES
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Welcome to the Camppatton Family Compound, In this video I discuss some EMERGENCY SHORT TERM alternative fuels for lamp oil. Important Points To Remember: 1) These are Emergency Alternate Fuels. 2) Never use Gasoline, Alcohol or other Flammable liquids in Oil Lamps. 3) Only use combustible fuels. 4) Keep flammables away from the lamps. 5) Stock up on lamp oil now while you can so you don't have to worry about running short in an emergency.
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I changed all my oil lamp wicks to carbon felt and hand sewn in copper crafting wire into it.
Works perfectly.
Never burns up or wears out.
Copper wire transfers heat down the wick and into the fuel.
It is called thermal feedback.
Thinner fuel draws up the wick better.
Thinner fuel also vaporizes faster and more efficiently. This is why in the hot summer time you have little problem using oil lamps but in cold weather they can sometimes give you fits of not thin enough. Saves from having to mix fuels or use expensive fuels.
Cold lighting will always remain the same level of difficulty vs temperature.
When using thicker oils, you may have to sew in an extra copper thread or two.
Or if you expect cold weather use.
You can sew in copper wire into a regular lamp wick if desired.
But remember, those wicks do get used up.
For a neat effect, cut a zig-zag pattern into the end of the wick looks like this:
^-^-^-^-^ on the top end. But bigger peaks.
Or an arrowhead shape. Or a 'fang' shape. Or a spoon shape.
Different patterns yield different flame designs.
Olive oil seems to not want to draw up a wick very well on it's own. For some reason it wants the flame close to the fuel presumably to heat the fuel and thin it out.
Copper wire allows heat transfer to warm the oil and allow the wick to be raised higher for more light if desired.
Edited to fix a typo...
Your comment regarding olive oil you probably correct. My reason : i have built a furnace that runs on old cooking oil. And the oil needs to heat up to certain temp before it burns. I even once soaked a piece of cardboard in oil and tried to ignite it with open flame from a lighter. Didnt work. So the temp of oil plays a big part
Great info!
@@frikkiesmit327 Are you familiar with the old Kerosene type mantle lanterns?
They had an alcohol 'cup' that you put in alcohol and lit it.
The heat from the alcohol heated up the kerosene in the tubing and lit the resulting gasses.
Same principle should work with olive oil and similar.
If you took a Ball/Mason jar, make it into an oil lamp, but along the wick you ran some copper wire down into the oil, that too should vaporize the oil more efficiently.
A sort of thermal feedback if you will.
my oil lamps stink and it's always the wick burning, not the oil. do you mean carbon felt does not burn and a strip can serve as a wick thus burning the oil only?
@@baranjan4172
100% carbon felt does not burn. Just make sure it's 100%.
I'm thankful for guys like you doing all of the leg work to help others. Great information.
I appreciate that!
A little trick I use to stop the lamps from smoking,soak the wick in vinegar then let it dry then install ,also regular trim the wick (black carbon bits) helps.
Thank you. I will try this.
Thank you.
Thanks for the advice. Will definitely try that
Wish it might stop me from smoking?!😆
Sounds like a Great idea, will try it. Thank you.
JP4 is a karosine , jet fuel . In refining the karosines come before the dieseles . The first diesel engine was run on vegetables oil .
My #2 clean heat just went from 10 to 15$;thanks biden
A recession is when your neighbor loses his job. A depression is when you lose yours.
A recovery is when Jo & The Ho lose theirs 👍🏻
Good ideas for emergency situations where you don't have the right fuel. Don't forget to have extra wicks for afterwards when you get the proper fuel again.
In a pinch, you can cut three thin strips of old cotton t-shirts and then braid them together for a wick, as well.
The thicker the oil, the closer you want the flame of your wick to be as close as possible to the fuel reservoir. Olive oil will travel about an inch up ten wick and not much more. Aladdin lamps which are about 4 inches from wick top to fuel don’t really work well with olive oil, however I have managed to get it working with a mix of olive oil and lamp oil... 50/50
I’m always on the lookout for original antique lamps here in the UK ans have yet to find a cheap storm lantern. My Aladdin model 23 lamps get used regularly but the cost of lamp oil is forcing me to experiment with other ideas. I do like the fact that the lamp oil does not smoke, or smell and has a high flash point which means it won’t ignite when spilled
Sew in some crafting copper wire into that wick.
It transfers heat down the wick into the fuel thus thinning out the fuel a bit.
So, use battery lights until you have oil lamps and/or candles lit.
That's the general idea. We have nine plug-in emergency flashlights that we have placed throughout the house plus a boatload of LED flashlights. We recently got a 7 boxes of the solar powered walkway lights (35 total). We can use those for longer power outages to help the battery lights last longer. I just picked up a solar battery charger for AA & AAA batteries. We have also added several gallons of high quality lamp oil to our supplies every year since I made this video.
When it comes to lighting, like savings & investments, the key word is diversify. Have multiple way to light your home.
Carbon felt makes a great wick for vegetable oils
Thank you for this informative video!
I remember grandma lighting her old kerosene lamps when the lights went out. It was a special time in my life, a mixture of the old timey and modernish ways.
Thanks for sharing! I have the same memories with my grandmother and parents. Some tie we would light them just for the mood lighting.
@@CamppattonFamilyCompound I think the world isn't ready for what's ahead of us. But first, they, we all need Jesus as our King, and also a much simpler lifestyle. And skills to learn how to take care of our own needs as far as possible. We have become the most addicted, dependant nation that probably has ever been.
But we have it within ourselves to learn to be grateful and use our God given brains to do as much for ourselves as we can as long as we can. Praying for our country.
Remember, on the scriptures it talks about having the oil in the lamps? It's biblical. 💥🙏♥️
Yes. For them the wick was laying in a sloped trough from the pool of oil.
Jesus Parable of the 10 brides maids. 5 of the brides maids were PREPPERS and had extra oil so didn't leave and were invited to Jesus wedding whereas the 5 brides maids who weren't preppers had to leave and get more oil. WWG1WGA in Jesus holy name.
Zionist wars; Crusades 1&2, WW 1&2. Balfour declaration & Transfer agreement. "you will know them by their deeds."
Vast majority of "Jews" humans killed in the holocaust were what Judaism would consider half breed "Jews" humans because Judaism like Nazism believes in and practices Purity of Blood = Nazi Eugenics. Think they are the chosen people = Nazi Master race.
Jesus Noah & Lot warned us about these the climate change END TIMES with the book of REVELATION & the cause with the 7 north stars of the PRECESSION of the Alpha Omega equinoxes he held in his hand.
These are just the BIRTHING pains of the climate change END TIMES. Noah's floods won't get pulled around the planet by the moon until the major conjunction of the planets in 2033 & every 40 years thereafter for the millennium it takes to cross the centre of the source of all electromagnetic gravitational energy in the galaxy the galactic nucleus/Plane/Milky way.
Covid like CO2 is a comfortable LIE built upon yet another inconvenient truth.
The Baby Boomers who were born en mass 77 years ago are starting die en mass from the usual suspects of seasonal Flu which leads to pneumonia & old age.
Abortion, LGBTQ, Euthanasia, China one child policy, Covid1984 Quackzine are all DEPOPULATION before the Great Year RESETS the planet. Creating Sodom & Gomorrah so as to blame humanity for the cliamte change END TIMES due to Sodom & Gomorrah. Hegelian dialect.
CRT; Creating Racial Tension with Divide & Conquer BLM & ALM Aboriginal Lives Matter.
"Let the DEAD bury their DEAD."
The Bible is talking about faith.
Eve and Adam heated up with oil
We are being drained of oil... like the birds... their feathers become fluffy as they lose oil.
It is basically being leached from us... one of the main causes is all this ELECTROMAGNETIC RADIATION we are drowning in.
How many times have you put on a cold damp T-shirt from the day before? Thinking it was hot... it's still hot.. yet this T-shirt is still damp?
Yes with oil... yours!!!
You should see the effects of high elevation on the standard kerosene lamp, it's almost a no go at my cabin at 8m000 ft elevation. This is what I found works. Add 3 parts of proposal alcohol 91% to one part kerosene, burns faster but the little water in the alcohol helps the vapor point and stays lit without constant relighting and adjusting the wick. Vodka works at about the same strength with kerosene or olive oil. Diesel works, but soots up something terrible. Use almost anything but gasoline, even a little bit makes it into a bomb, not light or heat if it goes boom or flares all over the place. Thanks for the video.
The store bought propane heaters don't work at elevation, either. their safety isn't a CO detector, but an O2 detector, and if the air's too thin, it'll shut itself off. For your safety. smh
A Coleman white gas lantern can give off a lot of heat.
If you can find a Coleman catalytic heater that too can work.
Wonder 20% diesel 80% cooking oil
if you slightly trim (cut) the wick corners at a 45 degree the globe will not blacken from smoke. this narrows the flame.
I was about to spend my day messing around doing this so thanks for saving me a day
I use kerosene in my grandma's lamps, like she did. I soak the wicks in borax and dry completely before using. Kerosene is only $5 a gallon at the gas station but I buy in bulk for my 250 gallon tank so I pay $3.99 a gallon. I have backup kerosene heaters and a woodstove.
Cool. I have several Kerosene heaters as well for my backup to my backup. I have added a bunch of solar walkway lights that I can bring inside to make my lamp oil supply last longer. I'm diversifying my lighting as much as I can.
What does the borax do ? T.y.
@@janisb8064 You'll use this Borax solution to treat the base wick material. Treating wicks with Borax can make the wicks burn brighter and longer. Moreover, it can also reduce the amount of ash and smoke produced by the burning process.
I recall 25. Cent/gallon gas and 50 cent kerosene. 1950's.
@@CamppattonFamilyCompound how much to how much water please ?
Canola oil tends to be a little thinner
Great video. Those look like the WALMART FLORASENSE lamp and lantern- I got both too. The FLORASENSE lamp oil works great. Be careful- the glass globe on that lantern is VERY thin and easily breaks. Also the lantern wick is much smaller (7/16") than the lamp wick (probably 7/8") so it will put out less light regardless of fuel type. The larger the wick, the worse it would work with thicker fuels. The WALMART lamp works great, and a 7/8" wick gives a lot of light. But it's delicate and not easily portable, and any wind/breeze ruins the flame- so Im buying a DIETZ lantern with a 5/8" or 7/8" wick so I can bring it to family dinners, summers outside at night, etc.
Nothing compares to the comfort and beauty of fire light. I have these indoors and it makes any room look comforting and warm, etc. Put them on a hard stable flat surface away from any fabric or carpeting, and you're fine- oil only burns if its soaked into something, it does not burn on a flat hard surface. So even if it knocks over you should be fine
Ever thought of using Diesel, works fine but smells, clean kerosene is outstanding. Remember a gallon of diesel is around $3.50 at present and kerosene is $4.00 a gallon.
That's one of the fuels I used in this video. However, it is ONLY for EMERGENCIES, because it has a bunch of additives for engines that are very bad to breath.
The cheapest I can find #1 kerosene is $11 a gallon
They still sell kerosene around here, a bunch of farm country and there is a demand for it so it is available, not cheap, but available. For example, I run my shop heater on diesel or get some #2 home heating oil when I can get it. Most of the time we use propane, have a propane kit for small engines but never bothered to set it up.@@CamppattonFamilyCompound
@@thomasheer825 I have diversified my emergency light a lot since I made this video. I have 9 plug-in rechargeable flashlights that come on as soon as the power goes out. I also have 35 solar rechargeable lights, 8 propane lanterns, 3 old school Coleman multi-fuel lanterns that take diesel to gasoline, 12+ regular flashlights and battery powered lanterns with rechargeable batteries and 48 unopened lithium rechargeable batteries for them with an eight port solar powered charging station. I hate being limited to one or two types of lighting. I bought a Firman tri-fuel generator for the refrigerators and chest freezers until I get the solar panels hooked up next summer.
I thought retiring meant I could take it easier. I'm working harder than I was before. 🤣🤣🤣
LAMP OIL, ROPE, BOMBS, YOU WANT IT? ITS YOURS MY FRIEND, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE ENOUGH RUPEES
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@@rickyfrank9923 come back richer
The reason modern kerosene doesn't gel up in the cold like diesel does is cuz it doesn't have the lubricant waxes needed for the fuel injector pumps in diesel engines. Otherwise, it is from the same ASTM cut as diesel/nr. 2 fuel oil.
Those lubricant waxes are what gum up wicks in oil lights and wick type kerosene heaters.
@@pouglwaw5932 I have yet to find any kerosene that is odorless. It gives off toxic fumes.
What's Really impressive is how you stretched a 5 minute video into a 20 min. Video. Thanks for sharing your wisdom, I appreciate you 🙏🏻
If I tried to do it in just five minutes most of the information would not be included. I did high speed to cut time out but still show what a lot of viewers have asked for in older videos.
@@CamppattonFamilyCompound still I appreciate you 🙏🏻🔥 Thank you
You can also make shortening candles.
Yup, I have a video on that and also making canned candles.
Yeah. I just went with solar garden and gutter lights. I have 4 gutter lights ( one above my door, and 3 over stairs near my house and shed) and 4 large garden lights. They all last for at least 8 hours, even on cloudy days. The gutter lights put out a constant glow- plenty light to even read by, with an optional motion detector putting out an even brighter light, which I deactivate when they are used inside for power outages.
The gutter lights have a small bracket that screws to the gutter, and then the light clips into the bracket, and just lifts out to remove it. The garden lights are on plastic stakes.
I just did a video on the walkway lights I installed from Sam's Club 2 50% off. I also have one on the automatic on emergency lights I bought. Diversify your lighting is the way to go.
Thanks for watching and for your input Andrew.
Yes, me to Andrew. You can charge them during the day on your car dash. 💥💯🙏♥️ Easy not messy either!!! I bought 15 in the summer. 💥☺️👍
I use Klean Heat, doesnt smell or smoke. Its currently $15/gallon (Dec 2023). I'm going to try a couple of these alternatives.
Remember, these fuels are for emergency use, not daily use. For us the use of oil lamps/lanterns is light eighth in line for our backups for lighting, behind automatic emergency LED lights, battery powered lanterns, solar rechargeable lanterns, etc.
In these type oil lamps, I trim the wick to match the curve of the brass. Once the lamp is lit and warming up, I bring the wick down inside the brass. The flame stays above the brass, burning the vaporized oil from the wick, but the flame is lifted off the wick. I get more light, much less smoke, and less wick char. It is a trick I learned in the Philippines burning kerosene, and it works great with commercial lamp oil. I need to try olive oil now!
I have heard from several old timers that trimming it with a peak, you get a sharp pointed flame. with a valley you get a wider flame. cutting a zig zag you get a square flame.
@@CamppattonFamilyCompound I've read about those trim options, but I have never gotten the geometry right to get the expected flame. My trim gives an almost square flame, with good light. It is not perfect, but I am happy with the result. I wonder if those trim shapes assume the wick is above the brass? I always felt a high wick burned more fuel, made more heat, but less light than I get with the wick below the brass.
Biodiesel works well in wick lamps and has a more pleasant smell than diesel and usually puts off less smoke too... Thanks for informing people! God bless!
Good to know! I have not tried biodiesel, of course we don't have it around either, but still good information. Thank you.
ah, the smell of fried chicken and french fries !
Got a ? Can you use biodiesel in a kerosene heator?
@@Rachel.S674 yes, usually it will work the carbon chain is very similar… as with any type of heating system make sure you have adequate ventilation… which is why this system really appeals to me. You can have a fresh air intake and an exhaust to outside so the heating system air is isolated from the air inside your building…
Hey there! Thanks. This is a nice video. Also cost saving. A great source to use when vegetable or olive oil goes rancid and/or inedible. Olive oil. This is what the “old countries’ in the Mediterranean areas used for lamp oil. The old oil or the 'blow down’ overripe fruits were used in this way. They called it lampante. Pronounce lam pant eh. Used for lamps and early machines. (Source of my info is from a book called Extra Virginity: The Sublime and Scandalous World of Olive Oil. byTom Mueller.)
We used an oil lamp to keep our hog water tank thawed out during the winter when I was a kid. We used diesel fuel in the lamp. It was readily available ( step dad was a truck driver) the lamp was all metal. Rectangular metal box with the burner no chimney. I've tried finding them at the farm stores and on line and haven't had any luck.
We used them lamps and Coleman stoves to help heat our tents while hunting
I have a whole be ox of them and they are about half the size of the one he has.
Amazon has those lamps
@@marthaleone584 : Under what search/keywords ?
@@marthaleone584 : Under what search/keywords ?
I have been after this sort of information for awhile thank you
Glad it was helpful! With the way lamp oil prices are going up and rechargeable battery prices are dropping, I have been adding more rechargeable batteries and solar chargers to my supplies. I still have plenty or oil lamps and gallons for lamp oil, but I am saving that for special situations. For the price of a gallon, I get a 24 pack of batteries that I can recharge hundreds of times. I am adapting with new tech, but not abandoning old tech.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Personally I believe that it is during the peaceful time that we need to be prepared for unexpected events. It applies to people who live in the city too and not for people who live out in the middle of nowhere. I have seen and have experienced what it was like to live during the Vietnamese Tet offensive in 1968 when no one was allowed to leave the house for months due to the communist attacks in the city. No food. No running water (they blew up the main water pipes that fed into the city.) No electricity for over a year!!!! Major power lines were destroyed too. Our house had only two kerosene lamps and a few candles to use. Unfortunately the majority of what we had to do had to be done in the dark. For that reason, thank you for sharing with me your knowledge so I can be prepared. May God bless you.
working on preparedness should be done at all times, good and bad.
No but it was on the other day I posted.
Story line was about a mountain man supposedly famous for his skills challenging Lucas to see who shoots a rifle faster.
I searched and searched to find that lamp. Only place I saw it was on that kitchen table.
There are somewhat similar designs that use springs and such to pressurize the remote fuel tank. Others used a manual pressure pump.
But that one looked gravity fed.
That design could open up more options for fuels. Maybe even olive oil.
Ever seen an antique Coleman kerosene lantern?
They have a priming cup on the generator. You put alcohol in that to preheat the fuel then it can be lit.
I saw one years ago - an old guy had one and was using it fishing one night.
Thinking if something like that could be added to a lantern or lamp, that too could open up more fuel choices. Maybe even help those at higher elevations.
Until then the copper wire strands in the carbon felt is best for now.
You should let us know how well Bio-diesel works and mention the hazards of mixing oil of turpentine in with your vegetable oil; because when heated, turpentine is as volitile as gasoline and vreates explosive vapors in the tank
Turpentine is a flammable liquid and I said not to use flammable liquids. Bio diesel is not available here so I won't be testing it. Bio diesel is also a bit corrosive so I wouldn't put it in any metal lamps/lanterns.
I am not sure what to make of certain ideas. But i have seen this idea where they put a carbon felt wick inside a copper tube and coiled it up once or twice.
Then the ends of the tube go and sit in a bath of oil (after you obviously first have filled up the tube with oil to get the wick wet)
The coil stands up vertical and in the bottom half they drilled a hole, or 2, or 3, or 4. Small holes but big enough.
The coil has a small diameter.
And when you then fire it up by putting the flame to the holes (perhaps it needs a bit of a jump start with some alcohol or gas to heat up a little), the flames coming out of the holes heat up the coil on top which wicks the oil around etc etc....
And eventually when it all gets to a nice temperature, the burn becomes pretty clean. Not perfectly clean but it looks a lot better than the normal wick setup.
What is your opinion on such oil burners where they coil a copper tube etc etc? (assuming you understand what i mean...... i am dutch so if you do not understand it is all on me)
I have received a lot of comments about using carbon felt by itself as well as with a thin copper wire sewn through it to get thicker fuels to work in oil lamps. (read the pinned comment thread started by crazysquirrel) I have also seen and experimented with copper tubing with holes and loose cotton twine in it for a small stove and it works okay. Once I get the new property set up and the garden going good, I'll get back to experimenting with different fuels for lamp, stoves and heaters.
You are going to have to wash your glass globes every few days.
They are very delicate and break easily. I wash mine in a basin of hot soapy water but I wash them separately with nothing else in the basin to bump them against.
Turn the wick down as low as possible before you light the lamp because the flame is going to jump up when you lower the globe.
It will smoke a lot when the flame jumps up too high.
If you keep the flame adjusted so it doesn't smoke you will have to wash the globes less often and so reduce the possibility of breaking them during washing or handling.
Odorless mineral spirits is what I generally use for fuel in kerosene lamps. I get it from the paint isle at the big box stores.
Good points. Thank you for sharing this information
Interesting. We use a parrafin oil in our lamps. Burns cleaner than kerosene. I can see definitely mixing in order to stretch the oils out because the lamp oils such as the parrafin and or kerosene are very expensive here in Canada. Even expensive olive oil is way cheaper than our lamp oil!
Paraffin lamp oil has a habit of freezing if stored in cold just a tidbit.
Holy comments! 😂 I had a turbo diesel Mercedes running on Alt fuels for 5 years. Lots of experiments from veg/citronella tiki torches to waste oil melting furnace. Fun!
Preheating oils thin them out. I used copper tubing coiled around the furnace before going to the burner as a preheater. Once it's going it's going! Waste oil is a resource! Give waste oil burners some experimentation. You won't regret it.
I have several plans for building waste oil heaters, I just have so much going on getting the properties up to the self-sufficient stage. I want to use them for heating the shops and livestock buildings.
Great experiment...I have a diesal heater that i dumped a quart of canola oil intoabout a gallon of diesal in the tank. Fired up the heater, and it was hot !!!...shut down and went to bed. Next day heater would not light ...the oil was heavier and not enough carbon content I think...had it been used fryer oil, I feel it would have worked....had to drail the tank of about a quart and presto, heater worked again....love doing experiments like this...thank you for sharing...
Another problem with cooking oils that I have found out since making this video is that they are altered to NOT burn at higher cooking temperatures and that is the reason I had problems with them and why it didn't work in your heater. I was about to try some in my Kerosun heater when I found out. Good thing I found out before I ruined a new wick.
Poor people in morroco used to do a1/3 part of water at the base and 2/3 of pure olive oil to keep a longer flame and a lasting cotton wick
how would that work to save the wick.
@@HealthSupercharger Oil floats on water, making the oil closer to the top of the wick...
But the wick should not protrude into the One third water.....
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water won't burn ?????????
Change the wick or mix 50/50 lamp oil kerosene with olive, corn, or vegetable oil to make the fuel go further
Ever try corn syrup? LOL
Might make you hungry for pancakes!
@@crazysquirrel9425 no I can’t say I have lol I could go for pancakes now
Lol you guys eat the pancakes for me. I’m diabetic, after your finish. Tell me I’m not hungry. 😂😂🙏
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I buy kleen heat. I'm in an apartment and can't have my ceilings have soot. Kleenex Heat not only burns clean but does generate about 5° of heat, which can be a game changer here in Upper Wisconsin.
Cool, ah I mean nice I'll look into that. Lately I have been stocking up on Shabbos Lamp Oil, by Ner Mitzvah, in the gallon jugs. Yes I have 20 + gallons of kerosene, but I am saving that for adding to my tractor's fuel in the winter and for emergencies.
@@CamppattonFamilyCompound - Yes, please do. Msybe that few degrees won't make a difference to many people, but in an area like mine, cold weather is not something that happens " every so often". But also, for me, because its not kerosene, there is no soot build up on the ceilings, which means a LOT to me.
Thanks for sharing this, learned a few useful tips beyond types of fuel to use.
We still have kerosene here in the. Caribbean our local name for it here in is , pitch oil. Diesel fuel here in the Caribbean is something totally different and is used for motor vehicles.
Burning anything in oil lamps is not good for your air quality, although olive oil is the best, however the problem with olive oil is that normal wicks will smoulder after blown out.
Thank a lot for showing your great experiments!!!
My pleasure! I just hope it helps others.
I saw an unusual and nice oil lamp on the rifleman today. It was sitting on his kitchen table ad he and his son Mark walked into the front door.
Thing had a 'T' in the stalk between the burner and the base, that went to an upright cylinder.
Presumably this was an external oil reservoir.
Looked everywhere and cannot seem to find that particular lamp.
It sure would make choosing oils (fuels) a lot easier....
Do you recall the name of the episode? I would like to go look at it.
Very helpful. Thank you.
At $3.99/gallon ,I stick with K2 pump kerosene with a little Citronella oil to cut the smell. My Rayo center draft lamps are guzzlers and I'd go broke using anything else. Great video. Keep prepping.
Peppermint oil and Orange oil work too. 👍
I agree, my Rayo lamps also use a whole bunch of fuel too. They make better heaters than lamps, kind of stinky too.
My Aladdin's though, are just purrrrfect.
That sentinela and lamp oil is not cheap either. The last one I bought was seven or eight dollars for about half a gallon.
Can I use avocado oil?
@Javier Avacado oil will work in a hurricane lamp. The wick on a center draft lamp has too much volume for straight vegetable oils. If your going to use something that expensive, just use Kleen Heat or Shabbots.
In an old "Ladies Home Book" from about 1908, the author suggested using men's flannel shirts to provide new wicks for oil lamps. Read the material content on your shirt before cutting it up, as back in that day, I think flannels were made of cotton.
Back then flannel shirts were two or three times as thick as today. But even then you would need to fold several times to get it thick enough to work good enough.
Good observation, hopefully someone will write down our comments and make their own "Ladies Home Book" for future reference. @@CamppattonFamilyCompound
@@GnomeInPlaid Unless YT removes this video they will be here forever, just all had to follow
I used these as a boy. Both rugged types and glass parlor lamps ( Dont let kids or dogs near them). Gpa and GGpa retired sea captains and brought their sea lamps home. Norse sea folk. When they knew hurricane coming to NJ shore out came lamps. Used kerosene (smelly) oitside and porch and some perfumed light oil for indoors. Very nice and cozy with 2 or 3 in each room. Still have a few. In Fl just north of Ian ground zero.
I hope you came through Ian okay
I've tested gas station diesel in the same kerosene lamp and it worked except the black smoke if the wick is turned up to high, but great for outside use.
Nice video thanks. Never thought it would go back to when I was a kid again kerosene lamps and living life in the 1700 but done it learn all the tricks no heat in the winter that's fun but you learn fast. Yeah vegetable oils won't wick up the oil to heavy guess olive oil is good not really bright but I had a small one from Israel I think it was 1000 years old just had a wick sticking out but you get used to it. But it was better than school you learned from the ground up and know things others would never know. Anyway have fun and learn as much as you can of the old days. Funny people talking about the old days go to Cambodia or some parts of Korea or China they are still living like that.
Thank you for your informative video I've been trying to find the best solution to use in my oil lamps when I'm out of lamp oil God bless you and your family and bless America our military and veterans
Thank you, I try to share what I know to help others.
My wife thanks you too, she was a Staff Sergeant
@@CamppattonFamilyCompound thank your wife for her sacrifice and service for country may God bless you both 🙏
Now I can justify storing that quart of diesel fuel I have to drain out when changing the fuel filters on my truck. This also gives me an excuse to buy another lantern.
Thank you! 👍
You're welcome!
I has been making oil from when I cook my sausage. When it is first made it is thick and will not work. But when heated over time it becomes thiner and should work.
I buy “lamp oil” from the local Amish general store. It’s just high quality mineral spirits. It’s cheap doubles as a solvent and burns in my flat wick and center draught lamps clean stable and bright.
Does mineral oil smell?
I hope you mean mineral oil and not highly volatile mineral spirits. Big difference.
I buy lamp oil from a guy named morshu
What you are describing is extremely dangerous please don't do this
@@inhumanfilth681 I bet it's a troll trying to get people killed.
Long-term (like several hours) #2 diesel is very sooty compared to K1 aka #1 kerosene.
#2 is also smelly compared to K1.
Here in the UK we used to use Paraffin, which is of course the proper name for Kerosene :) It was used a lot in heaters too, however it was also responsible for a lot of deaths through carbon monoxide poisoning, so if you do use these indoors a CO monitor is advisable.
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Paraffin is wax, I melted it colored it and made candles a then whipped it and it turned white like frosting which I then painted on the outside of the cylinder of wax and it looked like snow, Some glitter sprinkled on made it look like Christmas. I also dipped beautiful fall colored leaves in it to preserve them.
Um that's what I was thinking as u sd paraffin. We know it in wax. And when I researched making candles..it kept saying how paraffin wax is bad for health. Now I'm wondering if that is why? 🤔 Many candles have paraffin. I live in a small attic and I notice if I burn for warmth I get sleepy and feels harder to breathe. Like heavy on chest and I have to put them out. I always thought it was comfort feeling sleepy but in the last year i feel it's more the candle itself 🤔 I know soy and honey candles are best. As you can literally use the hot soy wax as a lotion on hands, multi uses.
@@cjd5255 yes! I brlieve it is linked to health problems...even heard lung cancer..?
@@patriciasmith7074 there is paraffin wax and paraffin oil.
The "outdoor stye lamp" draws air different then the chimeny style so it will often be less bright but more stable in a wind, this is by design i believe. as for lamp oil, i was always told it was just refined kerosine designed to burn cleaner aka less smoke BUT often more costly. What I like though in your experiments is the variety of oils / gases as well as mixing idea for a blended thinkness.
THANKS
I've been using charcoal lighter fluid as a lamp oil in recent months. Basically, any petroleum product classified as a 'Combustible' is safe to use in an oil lamp, lantern or mason jar lamp. Vegetable oils are 'combustible' but benefit from a little help as demonstrated on the video. We use olive oil in our church lampadas. The only problem with olive oil though, is it starts to congeal at about 55* F. But, olive oil burns clean and pretty much odorless.
Very good tutorial you taught me a lot now I know if I ran out of oil lamp with to use thank you for sharing
You have no idea how good your comment made me feel. You nailed the purpose, "If You Run Out". Hopefully everyone will stock up while they can. Have a great evening and Halloween tomorrow.
Interest. Im always down to add new tricks to my bag and never considered using vegetable oil or olive oil as a mix with lamp oil to extend them. Im a kerosene man myself. Takin it back to the Rockefeller Standard oil days. But knowing how to make biodiesel will be extremely helpful. Thanks Gil
I want to make bio fuel that I can use for lamps and oil fired water heaters
How do you make biodiesel?
@@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123 There are several videos on how to do it on TH-cam. I haven't tried yet, too busy getting the compound set up. I plan to try in a year or two.
@@CamppattonFamilyCompound I couldn't find how to tag you but thank you! I knew I could use olive oil in my lamps.
Thank you so much
You're most welcome
I am going to try and get some of these at auctions or garage sales. I learn so much from your channel. I will check with Tom and see if we have any of these lamps? I know he has a few decorative ones I got him. Thank you for sharing! Wendy🌸🐞
Seems smart. 👏👏👏
Thank you
Just remain in the darkness,your eyes will get use to it.
Some of us are older, and we need light to be able to move around. Dim light is great for younger people, but I am 80, and less stable on my feet now, with old eyes that don’t see as well, and I need good light to move in. And I don’t think anyone’s eyes can adjust to total darkness.
Ive used diesel as well. Its dirty, but better than darkness, especially outdoors
I have several oil lamps available for use as well as lamp oil. I keep 2 filled at all times. I knew you could use these alternatives in a pinch, but a lot of people don't. 👍
Yeah, there are alternative fuels, but I would prefer that people stock extra lamp oil, it doesn't go bad so they can keep adding to their supplies.
Thank you for the information.
Any time!
I got kerosene. 4 space heaters for shop and emergency. Kerosene is a byproduct of gasoline refinement....or vice versa.
I use it in karosine heaters too
Use Goeche fodri oil for the Lamp, works great.
It's a good idea to trim your wick prior to lighting.
True that, the burnt portion cannot hold fuel; I used to have to trim wick after every few hours when I used these lanterns years ago.
Wish I could find some oil lanterns that are quality, even Lehmans are selling some Chinese ones.
I know, the lantern division of the R. E. Dietz Company moved to Hong Kong in 1956. In 1982 the factory was moved from Hong Kong into China. In 2005 the factory was again moved, and now operates in Jiangsu, China.
W.T. Kirkman is making them in San Diego - Here's there website - lanternnet.com/western-style-lighting/?gclid=CjwKCAiA9qKbBhAzEiwAS4yeDV4E7pauDiIx5wHRP1Hm5Ht5XkAGuv1dTiGjORohZv-Bw3r5i0Je_BoCFtoQAvD_BwE
Also Vermont Lantern Co. at www.vermontlanterns.com/
great information.
Glad you think so!
Jojoba oil maybe better, It has long chain oils like whale oil. I don't know about flax oil.
You could use that basting tool to drip some "starter" oil on the wick.
Back at the other house I have a two ounce bottle with an eyedropper just for that purpose. Good thinking!
You're supposed to leave the wick in for one hour before lighting.
I have never heard that before, but I can see how it would help with the thicker oils like olive and vegetable. Thank you for your feed back.
Thank God you said that. So true. Novices will be shaking up their lamps, swishing fuel over the wick!! Completely mad and Dangerous
Charcoal felt for wick will burn the thick oil better
K-1 clear kerosene is your cheapest standard alternative. Don’t use dyed kerosene or dyed lamp oils since the wicks will clog over time. Lamp oil (clear) is good indoors. Avoid ultra pure lamp oil on wider wicks. Lamp oil will not work well outside in very cold temperatures. My favorite fuel for my kerosene lantern collection is Crown brand Kleen Heat or K-1 sold by the gallon in Home Depot. These are cheaper than lamp oil and burn cleaner than gas station K-1 kerosene though more expensive than gas station K-1. I will burn the gas station K-1 outdoors.
K-1 is only $5 a gallon at the gas station
Thank you 🙏
There is an additive you can use to make the dyed kero work better and not clog the wicks. Unfortunately since I’ve not used it, I cannot currently remember what it is except that I know it exists. Sorry 😓
I was able to order a gallon of the kleen heat through the online store you mentioned earlier at a decent price and replace an item that was broken during the last power outage. You are right about the gas burner- the flame is really hard to see before it blooms-so I decided against using that. I do use it for that boat cooker/heater as it is completely enclosed and pretty safe and I do have several of those Kidde alarms that I use.
fun fact you can run marvel mystery oil yes I actually did thst it ran just fine
they do make 1gal jugs of mmo if I remember correctly its burns fairly clean
Thanks for the video. I was wondering about using different oils.
I like that you have said and repeated in the comments several times that theses are EMERGENCY FUELS. Not everyday use fuels. Stock up now before the shortage hits hard. The power companies are already talking about blackouts and brownouts this fall and winter.
Coconut oil is better than kerosene and coconut biodiesel is even better
but unfortunately 99% of people will not have access to coconut oil in an emergency
Whale Oil Beef Hooked! Great video - thanks!!
Thanks for watching!
I tried canola oil in a lamp, but it is too thick to travel up the wick to provide a good rate of burn. Maybe more expensive corn oil will work better since corn is used to make alcohol and is a whole kernel fuel for corn stoves.
I have been experimenting with different materials for home made oil lamps and the wick make a big difference in the size of the flame. some wicks are made for thinner oils. But, the facts that you are trying out oils mean that you will be a bit more prepared if you run out of regular lamp oil. 👍 Keep prepping and learning.
I have two lanterns and I think the people before me used them as decorations the more lnformation I get the more I want to fire these babies up.
Clean them up good and light them up with a good lamp oil or high quality kerosene fuel.
Let them sit on a plate with paper towels to see if they are still able to hold fuel without leaking for a day before lighting them up. 👍
I lived in a small town in Iowa during the 2020 derecho. I had kerosene in my lanterns and used them as primary light for around two weeks. the kerosene smell grew so horribly strong in the house until I became nauseous. Luckily I also had unscented lamp oil and had to switch over to that.
With the increase of LED battery powered lights, I am getting more of them as my primary source of emergency lighting. Solar battery chargers have come a long way in the last couple of years too. Now I use my lanterns as backup to my backup lights or as mood lighting
add citronella oil to the kero to reduce the odour.
Vegetable oil has to be within 1 inch to 1.5 inches of the flame. The wick won't pull it much higher than that. Keep the lantern full it works great.
I mixed half tallow and diesel, it solidifies some but a thinker substance but not like butter, and it did travel the wick. I did not use in lantern and was smokey. Chicken fat burns well not so thick.........doesn't smell either. Just thinking on ways to use up stuff instead of wasting all the good ness.
Good ideas. How about using the fats to make "Crisco Candle" using a tiki torch wicks? That might work
@@CamppattonFamilyCompound I was thinking lamps as the light defuses nicely. And my elderly Mom has a nice collection of the oil lamps. I do have tallow, beeswax, soy wax, but playing around to put basic animal fats to use. The mix of tallow or any lard in diesel would work in an oil lamp though, just smokey. Have kerosine as well, now wonder if that would burn with animal fats in a lantern. Certainly would make the kerosine last much longer.
Thanks for posting.
Just trying to help people get a little more prepared.
God bless your family they are so cute and thanks for the information
Great video thanks!
I'm glad of running across your video I had been thinking about the possibility of cooking oil to be used and you answered my question thank you so much Four more years .
I'm glad you got your question answered by the video. I hope you enjoy my other preparedness videos too.
Canola oil was designed for cars Canada came up with the idea to make it for cooking and sell it to the us because people here will eat anything
That's true, just look at any fast food place
Can you trim your wicks? Use very sharp scissors or even tinsnips to avoid fraying. Fuzzy, tattered edges smoke more and do not produce as much light. High centres like a house gable seem to shed the most light, but straight across will do. Thanks.
That was laziness on my part. Yes a well trimmed wick give better light.
Great video. We just recently ordered some lamps for emergencies.
While these are good emergency fuel, stock up on a high quality lamp oil so you don't have to use these.
Will do. Thanks
veg. oil is diesel fuel. and we wonder why we so sic in this country, thanks FDA.