never pre-order, never buy day 1, always let someone else do that, and learn from them, we need to stop incentivizing big massive corporations to give us slop. if they stop thinking they can get money first, then make the game after, they'll start making the game first. as it is now, they get the money, then take their sweet assed time maybe, if they feel like it, finish making the game.
Correct. Now wait for updates that break things, while broken things will never be fixed. It's so predictable. MSFS2020 has been out for years, but the flight assistant still manages to crash in a suburb 500 meters from the runway, or ignore an airport completely.
It's on Gamepass...which is how the majority of users are playing, so the pre-order and buy points are moot. The game WILL receive updates and fixes quickly.
Simples. This corporate-led model needs to be opposed…👍🏾. It’s all about the initial release ‘hype’ boat to provide that revenue, followed by post-release care being an afterthought (at least with larger studios).
Funny thing is they did it to us with 2020 and yet people AGAIN didn't learn. I for one won't fall again for the same trick twice. I'll be flying my 2020 for at least 6-9 more months, and only IF 2024 gets to an acceptable level for its price tag I might decide to purchase the Standard version. Oh and the free Canadair that came with the preorder.... how stupid do they think we are?
Couldn't agree more. Don't fork out your hard earned money to be someone's fault finder and beta tester. I am baffled watching so many people tearing their hair out and getting frustrated and stressed, expecting everything to work fine on day 1. Stick with MSFS2020 and enjoy life.
I bought a 4 TB SSD for MSFS 2020 in 2023 Guess I will keep using it for 2020 rather than 2024. The SSD was cheaper than the aviators edition btw lol. 200€ for a bugged game. Thanks god I decided to just try it in gamepass and decide later on which version to buy. But at this point its not even worth the money, guess I'm waiting for a discount here.
The problem with these publishers releasing these games earlier than when they're actually ready is that the word of mouth about how broken they are spreads fast on the internet. They want to get the sales early and fix things later, but once the tea gets cold, no one cares anymore, especially in the games industry, where there's something new to look at around every corner. No man's Sky, Fall Out 76 and Sea of Thieves are all great games today, but their player numbers reflect that of something niche due to having poor launches. If publishers want players to stay, they have to come out of the gate swinging, and then retain those numbers with content support down the line, but if they're gonna come out cold, people will leave, and once people leave, they usually never come back.
but if everyone already paid there £200 what does it matter eyyyyy moneys in the back - its no live service game. Our entire CULTURE is fast money, how much can we rip the next guy off for. So dont expect anything different any time soon. Sorry to burst your bubble.
I agree. I personally just wait for reviewers after launch, than to believe all the pre-launch hype. Than don't buy a game until the devs have sorted their s..t out. But by then I probably have lost interest and playing something else.
My two cents on the topic: I played MSFS24 for about 20 hours, over 95% in free flight. I just touched the career mode briefly with the first introduction flight. But this worked without any issues. Only the AI voice is terrible, but since I'm not interested in career mode, I really don't care. The issues I had, like most of us, were connection issues. And I was rather surprised MS messed this up so badly. But, again, nothing too terrible since it worked the next day mostly as it should. Compared with the MSFS20 launch this is so much better! I wonder if everybody already forgot how broken the game was. It took ages to load if at all, a boatload of airplanes had only three working switches, Autopliots did not track or, even worse, crashed the plane directly into the ground when activated, game freezes and crashes, all steering configurations were gone from one day to another and so on... On the other hand MSFS24 is way more stable and feature rich. The addition of EFB is a blessing for beginners. Yes, fiddling with LlittleNavMap/Simbrief/Navigraph is fun, but quite hard to get into. For me, programming Garmin/MCDU by hand is one key element of a flight. Having every information (METAR/Runways/ILS frequencies, etc.) directly build into the game makes programming way easier. And big big plus, you can export your route from the on board navigation system into the EFB. Due to different chart versions it was often a guessing game to find a route that can be programmed in LittleNavMap/Simbrief AND your navigation system exactly the same. All in all I must say I am very happy with MSFS 2024. Yes, it is not perfect (and most likely will never be as MSFS2020 never was) but for how I play it's a win. There are a few things I noticed like a glitching auto throttle in the Pilatus PC-12 and still the most annoying thing, even with raytracing on the cockpit lighting is crap. Turning on the overhead lights, even just a bit, should make enough light to see the overhead panel... but you are still looking into a black void. It seems all controll configurations from MSFS2024 are imported but not entirley. Only half of the buttons on my two TM.16000 work as in 2020. And it's a shame your achievements/ flight hours from 2020 are not counting for 2024...
I will stick with msfs 2020. The problem I believe is that, unlike 2020, most of 2024 is streamed from the cloud including the aircraft. Until there is an option for a download like 2020 these problems will continue.
100% agree. I refunded my on series x. Big mistake using cloud. I didn't mind 2020 huge install. Ground is blurry , buildings missing, textures not loading in.
It's worse than that. They want to lock us in a game as a service. Notice how they encrypted the plane files, making modding impossible. And notice the "purchase more liveries" button.
I think they just told AI to take 2020 and make a game with it, because this just reeks of AI. Only mistakes that AI can make, I find it hard to believe a game dev made some of these and signed off on it.
@@kyzer97320 Yea I've seen this and this part is disgusting, hopefully it's not the road they're taking, if they do they don't know their fanbase at all.
My issue with the game is my Thrustmaster HOTAS 4 not being able to map the flight controls. All of the buttons work but I can't use my throttle or flight stick to move the flight controls. Is there another flight stick or control system that would be better to use?
After the 'let down' of MSFS2020, I decided I would not invest time or money into the 2024 iteration for at least one year. It took a year for MSFS2020 to NOT lock up while flying. None of the issues surprise me at all...
I will be 77 in two months. Will I be burning in Hell before the flight sim dumpster fire goes out? I took two flights on the second day and the first one in the NX Cub went okay. But the next one was in a Bell 407 helicopter and after flying for 10 minutes or so it became uncontrollable and crashed. At three days after launch I got in the flying lawn chair/drone thing and down low there were trees growing out of the roadway. That's not "photogrammetry" that's photo travesty. I wish Asobo would make another video and let us know IF they can fix it and if so, WHEN. What irritates e most was the control programming set up. I have a bunch of videos on that subject stored for future reference but I wish they would have some official guidance on that, accessible in the sim, instead of letting us figure it out for ourselves. I still haven't attempted to fully set up my controls in FS2020. At least you can apply settings to individual planes in 2024. One more point, the pre-launch get together of flight simmers in LAs Vegas led us to believe everything was figured out and would work well on launch day. WTF happened between then and now?
With all the helicopters featured in the trailers, I was hopeful that Asobo had improved the rotorcraft flight model. Nope. They didn't even touch it. There is no ground effect, no weathervaning in forward flight, and the torque pedals behave as an on/off switch. Clearly, no one at Asobo has ever held a cyclic, and they certainly never asked any helicopter pilots for feedback. A huge swing and miss, that once again, third party devs will have to cobble together their own hacked up flight model to paper over Asobo's lack of caring.
Why is anyone surprised at the Pooched "Launch" that was just a repeat of FS2020; and why does everyone ignore the fact that FS2020 was supposed to have the "Career Mode" that they are hyping for FS2024?
It was supposed to have a lot of things that got pushed to 2024 to sell it as a "new sim" like Seasons And half the "new stuff in 2024 is just freeware we have in 2020 Glad I didn't buy it.
I had the same problem ,overflying airports and the ATC froze and they send you to ridiculous air strips.let’s hope they fix it since they got our money.the walking is ok if your not in a melted city.
Yeah, I’ve had no issues since the queue ended. Just smooth flying and admiring the views. My wifi isn’t the best but it isn’t that bad either so it shouldn’t be a wifi problem that others are experiencing. I just kinda wish that my hotas would work properly with the game as it is an officially Xbox licences hotas but I’m sure they will fix it in the future.
I was in the 2020 Alpha and had few problems from then until now except for Console oriented updates that screwed it up. That said it was as much an Alpha as 2024 is, on that I agree.
I've tried the career several times and it will refuse to acknowledge when I'm looking at the controls it wants me to. Unable to move forward, simply won't notice that I am actually looking at the RPM indicator.
I have discovered there is NO Azure data centre in South East Asia - Just 1 Azure availabilty zone in Singapore - so for me launch time is 30+ minutes. When I get in many aircraft missing including the C172 which is pretty critical for gameplay. Graphics look like I'm flying around a Minecraft city - and that is with 350Mbs upload and download - Microsoft should have provided the Azure map as well as stating a minimum download speed
I've had 12 successful flights in the last 3 days. In VR it's mind blowing. Highly recommended, but I would have advised folks stay clear for a couple of weeks until things settle down. I use a VPN to America to get a reliable connection to the servers, and of course that's not right.
It's time we just stop buying all these big AAA title companies games because Black ops 6 they had four years to develop and it's trash I also play NHL series games made by EA sports and the new NHL 25 it's trash Microsoft flight simulator 2024 it's trash I can go on and on also DCS is lying to their customers and not finishing products that people buy an early access phases
So was 2020. The amount of updates and fixed since release is staggering. But it's the new black. Release a beta, then develop with community feedback.
Agreed 100%! Before you uninstall though, try a hot air balloon (regular), start the burners, then switch camera to external a couple of times (might only need once!), I laughed so hard I damn near cried as a sheet of flame was suddenly bursting out form the bottom of the basket, engulfing my pilot in flames... An apt metaphor I felt! :p
I saw one video on Twitter / X the guy took his FlyDoo motorized hot air balloon into Space. And it does appear we can go MUCH higher into space compared to 2020. 🤣 With that said...I fully suspect - when, if this title gets more stable...which I THINK it will someday, someone will slap a few low orbit spacecrafts, event he ISS into the new Marketplace.
I was lucky I guess. I waited until I saw all the reviews come flooding in on launch day and didn’t even attempt to download this hot mess. The refund for my Aviators Edition I put in for that evening. Literally within minutes I got an email saying my refund request had been approved. Just got another email a few days ago saying my credit card was being credited with the full amount. Another Microsoft bullet dodged.
But It was very obvious it wasn't ready on the lead up to launch. The SDK was released to devs just 1 month before and was not only bugged but missing core content! The dev streams were only about 3rd party aircraft and the "world" dev stream was dropped without announcement or explanation. There were no review copies sent out and there was no preview footage of the finished game. There was radio silence from the devs on all the features they had promised but not talked about. Then we heard the market place wouldn't be up at launch. I didn't pre purchase but it is even worse than I thought because the game actually looks worse in many cases and has all the same bugs and missing core features as 2020 since 5 years ago! Like crappy immersion breaking bugged road traffic (which they said was improved) and ATC still being in Alpha state on a next NEXT gen flight sim! FPS is actually worse on last gen X3d chips than 2020 and everything being streamed means scenery or textures not loading in properly at times.. And where is all the stuff Jorg said was in the sim in the 2024 seminar? "New satellite imagery across the planet." "Improved and New photogrammetry cities (Twice as many)" "One Million Sq Kilometres New LIDAR data" (Hi res height elevation data) I don't see any of it on the videos I have watched. Finally Jorg also said 2020 would get a patch with the new satellite imagery and stuff the day after 2024 launch, no patch!
The same thing happened when MSFS2020 first came out - didn't work - bugs, etc. That's why I never bought MSFS2024 and probably won't for a year - Which is what I did with MSFS2020
It's utterly pathetic. So many bugs it will be a year before they get to them all. All the simps on the forums trying to make excuses for Asobo. I got a refund and then I switched to Game Pass for $1 for 14 days after which I will cancel Game Pass. And no, the servers aren't fixed. New reports today of blurry terrain and missing buildings and long load times.
For me, 2024 has been running better than 2020 ever did, with less bugs and less crashes, since the day after launch. Major issue the game was having wasn't the game. It was nVIDIA driver issues. Thankfully I went AMD years ago and never regretted it.
Data consumption is my biggest problem, even with photogrammetry off it's too much, and yeah there are so many bugs but it's mainly the career mode than anything else, the launch is bad but common it's definitely not as bad as cyberpunk or NMS, definitely not NMS. The biggest thing they need to do is let us download the planes, don't stream the planes because streaming it feels very inconsistent, sometimes textures are there other times it's missing, so many missing sounds, just let us download the planes. Following that it has to be career mode, it's bad, it's extremely buggy.
After the launch imbroglio finally settled down, I’ve enjoyed an excellent VR experience in Flight Simulator 2024. Performance is good, lighting is better than 2020, & scenery is significantly improved. I have 980 hours in 2020, almost all of it in VR; I’m 20 hours into 2024. I’m mainly a VFR scenery tourist, just spawning in mid-air & flying around. My biggest gripe is that some of the planes I purchased in 2020 still aren’t available in 2024.
This post could have been me typing, because it is my exact experience. Oh, how I miss my little Su-26MX. I hope it will be available soon. VR performance was absolutely unusable at first but I realised I had forgotten to update NVidia drivers. Works very well now.
@@ЮрійГордієнко-х2з The mouse will work. And if it stops working, just hit a button on the motion controller, or on an xbox controller if you have one connected, and it will bring the mouse back. It's a minor bug, and easy to work around. They'll fix it.
There is no way to sort or filter your list of missions in career mode so it gets crazy. You no longer can see other player names within 50 NM, it's less than 5 NM so you struggle to track your friends flying nearby. Pilatus PC 24 landing gear never retracts. Those are just off the top of my head.
I agree on the friends multiplayer implementation, definitely need some improvements. As well as some netcode improvements for updating positions, planes and character models. But overall pretty happy with the rest.
It’ll be interesting to see how many of the existing bugs will last over the next four years, while they add ‘new great’ other features. That’s Osobos track record so far.
I'm kind of happy they released it but it should have been clearly labelled as a beta, not been launched as a full release and the rollout staged over a week or two. It's definitely not "customer release" quality software at the moment. My main annoyances at the moment: - Engine sound seems to work on about a quarter of launches - Sometimes trigger look on my flightstick works and sometimes it doesn't - Water handling is broken, possibly worse than in 2020! For example the Carbon Cub will backflip with full throttle and full up elevator - Weird resets flying through gates in the time trials. It's not even the same as hitting something, it simply resets you back a bit with no message why. I've only tried this so far in the Carbon Cub and it's currently unplayable. - Crazy default config for my Thrustmaster stick and pedals. It's one of the most common around and the rudder defaulted to the throttle and the pedals initially! - Oversensitive controls feeling like early FS2020 where you needed to adjust the control curves manually I've not tried either photo or career mode myself so can't comment on those.
I’m in a suburb of NYC. Load times yesterday took 49 minutes. Sim crashed to desktop while I was exploring efb in c172. Second load time was again 49 minutes. Intenet speed in home is 500 mbs. So I’m not seeing improvements in the servers. I don’t have time to wait an hour to get in.
i purchased fs2020 on pc and played it for about 10hours. then turn off the pc the the next morning im back on the pc and theres no game?? WTF going on the game is gone the only thing left is the file folder.?? i payed over $200 for it to only disappears on me, has this ever happen to any one.
Oh, come on. It is not the worst failure, it is the MOST RECENT failure. You will be yelling about another live service game launch next week and will likely forget all about this one. FO76 is great now, btw.
I understand the sentiment. We would like to have games to be playable Day 1. Unfortunately people buying hype and companies happy to sell whatever they have at the moment and fix (maybe) later. While demand is high situation will not improve. At the same time I'd like to give Microsoft some credit for keeping flight simulator alive and mostly up to date, especially global Earth coverage. Nobody else can do it on such a huge scale and luckily it's not using Unreal engine 5.
Are the servers fixed? I have tried and tried to load since day one, up until yesterday (Sunday). It NEVER got past 98%. I had no intention to leave it loading for more hours than a game from the era of cassettes would have taken to load. I have requested a refund, as, up until yesterday I was not on game pass. If this does get fixed, yes I would certainly re-install it on my Series X. Nearly one week in and it is still a total farce. Forget 'Cloud' streaming and give us a FULL INSTALLATION. ***Update***......They have refused to refund me. Why does that NOT surprise me.
I had an airport deny my VFR request on a perfectly clear day. Decided to request IFR anyways, just to not get the penalty, then my enter key was shown on the top right of the screen to acknowledge clearance, and to request taking off again. The game chose to put me on an endless "request IFR clearance" loop instead of acknowledging atc. I took off anyways and was straight up denied landing. This was all at an airport with an X'd out runway, mind you.
I was never able to successfully download 2020. The download would always crash and never complete no matter how much time I spent trying. For me, 2024 has been great! Day one was awful, but since then I’ve been playing relatively seamlessly
Most licenses have ZERO training available, commercial helicopters license offers ZERO paid missions. Several licenses aren’t even available and are just place holders. Career mode is pre-alpha, but paid $130 for it? I feel confident they will fix these, but how in the heck was this even released in this 20% complete state??
I was disappointed in the water texture effects when flying close to the surface… seems non existent. And what’s with the skid marks any time you’re using normal braking??
I don't think we are playing the same game. The water was stunning when I played it. very realistic waves, and then when I was flying around the bahamas, I saw all the reefs under the water. beautiful!
The main problem i'm having is that I am enjoying the game but the past 2 days it crashes to the desktop every 10 to 20 minutes completely exiting the game.
I gave up on Microsoft flight 2024 I'm using game pass with VR go to the functions do not work properly. My flight joysticks they don't work properly. Why did they change some of the functions on the keys
Been playing on Gamepass, and man it's been a nightmare. I'm a VR gamer, so seeing the game has a VR mode and all that I was overjoyed. MSFS has all kinds of little things to meddle with, which is like 90% of the fun of virtual reality. HOWEVER. The game is simply broken. Setting up VR is enough of a nightmare - I have a 4060ti, so not the beefiest of VR hardware but certainly no slouch, but even then I had to dial many things well and far back in order to simply get a framerate that won't result in sickness even passively staring in one direction with everything moving slowly on screen. Not a deal breaker, it's a heavy game, and nothing in the world is optimized these days, so not a surprise. But but but.... the controls... oh boy, the controls. So I got a Quest 3, using virtual desktop to play. I use the controllers, because the hand tracking is a nightmare. Or I would use the controllers, but the thing keeps trying to jump to hand tracking whenever it can. So I'm always fighting the system trying to switch to hand tracking, pressing buttons over and over to get it to re-enable the controllers. I figured I could try to maybe use a xbox controller instead, especially for other issues I'll get to in a second, but I wanted to have a vr controller on hand just in case I need it for more poke-and-do tasks. Thing is, if I have the analog stick even slightly moved, the VR controller turns off and I gotta go smashing buttons to turn it on again.. all the while, it's still trying to override the xbox controller with hand tracking while I'm actively using the xbox controller. Now if it's using the vr controllers "properly" it's still astonishingly half assed. You know the standard "hold the home button to recenter your view" of every single VR game ever made? Well, count this as the one that doesn't do that. You hit left shift on the keyboard, or the X button (closer button) on the left controller. Yep, on of the main action buttons is the recenter view button, instead of the standard. Now when you get out of the airplane, that's when things get especially ridiculous. There is no way in VR on the VR controllers to rotate your view. You cannot turn. Well then, what does the right stick do? Simple! Nothing. Nothing at-fucking-all, it does absolute jack shit. The right grip button is your crouch button. Yep, they remembered the crouch button, even though you will auto-crouch near your wings and don't actually even need a manual crouch button, but you can't turn. Despite ALL THIS so far, I haven't even got to the worst problem with the game. You might have been expecting this, but surprise surprise, it doesn't even function. I can dick around in free flight, but I wanted to get some actual tasks done.. so... seeing as I have near no idea what I'm doing, I went into the activities, tutorials, and started at square one. First red flag? The description box reads something like "basiccontrols_tutorial_VR" or the like. Launch it, they give the little rundown "I'll be your teacher, blah blah blah, this is a cessna, blah blah blah" and finally "hide the yoke with your controller of choice." So I poke the yoke, it disappears, the tutorial lady says "Great!" and then.... nothing! No further task loads, nothing happens. For a few frames, it flashes "use the cursor to interact with the cabin" on the task box, but I've poked every last button in that airplane, it doesn't progress the tutorial. I've started the thing up and smashed into the hangar doors. Nothing. I've got out of the plane and walked in the one and only pre-determined direction I'm allowed to face. Nothing. So that's it. First step of the first tutorial, and I can go no further. I could go on about the keyboard randomly turning off and being unable to access the menu, the game locking the mouse so hard alt+tab doesn't release it, the task manager being BEHIND the game and me having to straight up hold my PC's power button to get out of it... but yeah... Anyway, I gave em a 1 star review.
Is it perfect? No. Is it polished? HARD NO. Will it get better? Yes. 2020 was a dumpster fire for a LONG time. 2024 is playable if you don’t have 3rd world country internet. I definitely saw some performance issues, but 2020 had that too. I think with a few months time, it will improve a lot.
My plane spawned in on a hill in career mode. When I removed the wheel blocks the plane started rolling down the hill without me in it. Good job Microsoft.
I bought the tbm for vip charter and sold my old plane to do so big mistake. plane didn’t have fuel. and gave me 7 different error codes on different missions. literally unplayable. thinking about selling the tbm for 200k loss because i can’t even play.
Yup, I’m where you are at in terms of frustration, half of the planes won’t even load without freezing. Missions having me take off from a runway that don’t exist, invisible flight patterns and on it goes. I uninstalled it I got so pissed off with it
I just did a 3h flight and b/c about to run out fuel i had to skip (do the game want me to land in any airport and get fuel?) From $10k credit i only got $760 😅
I am truly sorry and sympathetic of your negative experience. I wish I could share my experience. Mine is quite the opposite of all this negativity (though understandable). Yes, day one was impossible. Since, I have been in awe of how superior 24 is over 20. I sincerely hope it works out for you in the future.
You didn't even get to the part of the career mode where you helo starts bouncing before loading has finished and you are hit with crash and wrecking of your reputation, not to mention its completely unplayable at this point.
I've had my share of preorder disappointments and this is one of them. The beta testing didn't occur before the initial release. That was Alfa testing. The beta testing is NOW and we're all the testers. To be fair, there are some things that I believe 2024 does better than 2020. The new trees and seasons are very good and getting out of the aircraft and walking around is really nice as well. I greatly look forward to MS actually polishing the sim over time
When I requested a REFUND from Microsoft UK they denied it immediately saying that this was because I'd requested too many refunds this year. Complete BS because I'd not requested any at all! Until now. So this means that I now have to explain UK Consumer Law to MS by proxy and by asking PayPal to open a dispute with Microsoft UK. Pretty appalling eh? Why did I request a refund? Put simply there was no way I could get to fly even though I am a merry IFR pilot in MSFS 2020 - but also because if you fly over Europe's highest sand dune (Dune Du Pilat) near Arcachon in France and compare the scenery that 2020 provides (via add-ons) to what 2024 does - its a disgrace. AND whatever happened to 'SAVE FLIGHT'?????
Don't know if it's just me but I'm so glad someone has finally said it. Even after the atrocious connectivity issues on day 1 / 2 there's still so much wrong with the game. It's ALMOST forgivable to have had those server issues considering it's the first of it's kind to attempt to stream a massive game like this but the actual game itself is full of bugs and issues that I just can't look past and haven't seen any of the big sim TH-camrs mentioning. For me it's mainly been controller and audio issues.
The ONLY problem i have with the game/sim is about 75% of the time i leave a flight....the menu glitches so bad that navigation is impossible without having to hard close the application. Im playing gamepass because i dodnt plan to purchase until after my 4080 build in a few weeks.
Career mode also penalizing me for taxiing over the runway, while it's the only way to get to the hold short position. I also suffered from not seeing the flight path, until I realized you can toggle this on or off by pressing the L-button (on Xbox).
Great video mate. I'm one of the players who downloaded via xbox gamepass as there was no way I was paying before a proper test. The release was a complete cluster...k. I'm a patient guy (65 now) but I was livid when it released. Everyone said it would happen but ms and asobo basically waved their two fingers at us. Like you say, after the servers settled down it runs and looks lovely but the career mode, while being really enjoyable just regularly kicks you in the balls. Regularly crashing (including on final which means you have to fly that mission again....from scratch) and often crashing after you've landed and taxiid in. Irritating but at least your progress is saved. This version was supposed to be better, direct x 12, newer engine, bells and whistles etc. If I was head honcho at MS quite a few of these people would have been picking up their unemployment cheque the following Monday. Looks like they learned nothing after the fiasco of 2020......and that is inexcusable!! Liked and subscribed :)
I tend to be torn on the issue. I think no matter how thorough game developers are, games will always be shaky at launch to some extent. but I think we can all agree that early access culture has been a net negative for the gaming industry as a whole and has definitely made the problem worse, or so it seems. The technical structure of games has not remained static and games themselves continue to be larger and more complex than ever before. Surely the larger the game and the larger the scope, the more difficult it is to achieve perfection on a day one launch. I think developers have to be held more accountable, but I also think that gamers have to manage their own expectations and exercise a little bit of patience and understanding every once in a while too. It goes both ways
Funny that 2020 just got the VR sorted out and now starting over with 2024. Although I did get the Pimax controller to show in VR, but it's very glitchy, mouse pointer does nothing, no interaction with the ins panel. Have to check settings more carefully. Planning to continue with 2020 until the teething issues are fixed on 2024. Seems that if you don't use RTX DLSS graphics, it runs like a slideshow in VR. They need to update min PC specs for VR ?
This was one of the games I was looking forward to play all year…. Last night MY COMPUTER TOOK A DUMP. Idk what it was but I tweaked the crap out of my pc cause this game kept crashing…. :( now idk what’s wrong with it. I’m gonna try to do a fresh install of windows… wish me luck.
Man I gotta say I disagree it has some minor bugs in the career mode but the majority of the experience after day one has been a huge improvement. From its substantially better flight model to its huge graphics update it’s very very good. also a hardcore sim will always drop player counts shortly after launch when the casual market that come to see what its all about and realize that most won’t stick around. You don’t need to keep playing but making a video acting like this game doesn’t work at all is disingenuous at best. Not to mention it does more harm than good.
"Man I gotta say I disagree it has some minor bugs in the career mode" .... "disagree" all you like buddy the FUCKING FACTS are, it is buggy... I FUCKING LITERALLY SHOWED SEVERAL OF THE BUGS HAPPENING, IN THIS VERY VIDEO, FOR FUCKS SAKE just for your dumbass to pretend they don't exist. Piss off mate.
The bugs aren’t minor at all. I’ve seen a load of visual bugs. Hidden character, aircraft or scenery textures. Airports that look like crap, merged world objects, Autopilot no longer or barely working, poor and unresponsive UI, poor menu design, frequent crashing. Terrible AI voices in career mode, messed up taxi pathways, I could go on and more.
There is no toggle for the ATC window,there is an option to open the ATC window but no option to clode it WHY??!!! That's only one of a series of ommisions and don't get me started on the new GUI system, 2020 was bad but the new one defies normal language description without resorting to foul (but appropriate) more colourful wording.....................................................
I keep having game freezing enough in flight to crash I keep having engines randomly shut off out of nowhere flight paths keep disappearing randomly around take off and landing auto pilot randomly will turn off or be on and nose dive me into the ground it’s almost impossible to complete missions on career mode because the game straight up isint working the way it should
Completely agree with this excellent assessment. Bought it like most people on day 1 and not had a single flight. Screen aberrations the minute i load up a plane which appear to be air flow metrics or something in Free Flight mode, sound disappears, drone mode doesn't work etc etc. Game was not ready for release and still isn't. Its a shame as it will eventually sort itself out but i think months not weeks
I returned msfs 2024 for a refund...the not mapping the simple inputs for joystick controls and making it very difficult to give your inputs for your controller was the final straw. Been playing since msfs 2000..So sad ...
Day one was a loss, ran fantastic last night and I saw the potential. I do hate having to redo 4 yrs of settings and not having my hanger. But this too will pass.
I love flying 1 1/2 - 2 hrs just for my engine just to stop working entirely or them not putting enough fuel in my plane. Also love sitting still and getting penalized for putting my flaps down while sitting still. Can’t even earn enough money to get my company.
While the new fun features sound flawed currently I'm still fairly happy with it as a core simmer. The visuals and performance have seen a serious improvement which matters to me most. Once PMDG aircraft are ported over I'm really going to enjoy this one. I do agree though it was released too early, and it was because 2024 was in the name. We also don't know what happened behind the scenes. It's very likely Asobo's hands where tied trying to keep M$ happy. I'm very optimistic about the future of this Sim.
It only took me 5 days to set up my controller bindings. The servers are working better because the provisioned the load balancing and enabled auto scaling.
F this game dude, keeps crashing, drop rating for no reason, crash mid flight, gamepass player so luckly didnt cost anything but as annoying as what you can get
The servers aren't ok. In the UK the main issues were fixed by day 3 after release. But then they came back with a vengeance at the weekend and are still happening now. It's impossible to launch a flight in any mode of gameplay.
On game pass, it literally doesn’t even work at all. Can’t get past the first career mission, controls don’t work and it doesn’t tell you how to access the menus it wants you to get into. Free flight crashes before I even get to the runway. It’s absolute garbage. See ya!
No Man's Sky shows to Video Games industry the correct past of redemption. Hello Games guys, in my humble opinion, are in the top of industry and the way that shows love and care to his customers. All the updates, and expeditions are completely free, they don't use micro transaction to increase his profits.
Why is the world map still several years old? It still has Georgia Dome and Turner Field in Atlanta, Georgia. The dome is long gone, and TF is a football stadium for Georgia State University.
The career mode is fun. Rumor is they are adding a micro transaction system to it. With the right addon plane like the fenix it’s usable. Most of the issues seem to be sever issues so they need to let us download as much as we want. Stream scenery is fine but everything should be local
some things you mentioned are bugs like the flaps, some things like lights are just standard operational practice, are their bugs? yes, are the instructions inconsistant for newer less knowledgable players? yes, is it broken beyond playable? no as ive posted consistant A/S grades for flights without using the visual flight path and markers. that said its still unacceptable that the game has bugs and that it is NOT FEATURE COMPLETE. not shouting at anyone just making the point stand out in the comments.
It will take longer than a month to fix this and i would venture that there needs to be architectural changes before I would be interested again. I wish they had stuck to the core pillars that made 2020 a success.
Such a shame the new version they worked hard on ended up releasing so bad with so many bugs. 2020 had less bugs than this one by far comparison. I loved the idea of having a fun carrier mode added onto it though as a option for casual players. I'm hoping they fix the bugs mega soon, was looking forward to upgrading from the fun 2020 version. But I guess I'll also wait it out a bit. Thanks for these videos blunty on these warnings. Guess I'll wait it out as well before upgrading.
never pre-order, never buy day 1, always let someone else do that, and learn from them, we need to stop incentivizing big massive corporations to give us slop. if they stop thinking they can get money first, then make the game after, they'll start making the game first.
as it is now, they get the money, then take their sweet assed time maybe, if they feel like it, finish making the game.
Correct. Now wait for updates that break things, while broken things will never be fixed. It's so predictable. MSFS2020 has been out for years, but the flight assistant still manages to crash in a suburb 500 meters from the runway, or ignore an airport completely.
It's on Gamepass...which is how the majority of users are playing, so the pre-order and buy points are moot. The game WILL receive updates and fixes quickly.
Simples. This corporate-led model needs to be opposed…👍🏾. It’s all about the initial release ‘hype’ boat to provide that revenue, followed by post-release care being an afterthought (at least with larger studios).
Funny thing is they did it to us with 2020 and yet people AGAIN didn't learn. I for one won't fall again for the same trick twice. I'll be flying my 2020 for at least 6-9 more months, and only IF 2024 gets to an acceptable level for its price tag I might decide to purchase the Standard version. Oh and the free Canadair that came with the preorder.... how stupid do they think we are?
Couldn't agree more. Don't fork out your hard earned money to be someone's fault finder and beta tester. I am baffled watching so many people tearing their hair out and getting frustrated and stressed, expecting everything to work fine on day 1. Stick with MSFS2020 and enjoy life.
I'd rather download 500 gb onto the hard drive than rely on the "cloud".
it has one and a half billion trees alone so would be bigger than 500 gb lol
They aren't all unique trees... they are just copying and pasted everywhere a set of trees.
@newworlddisorder156
@@newworlddisorder156 The pricipal behind what was said still holds strong 💪
I bought a 4 TB SSD for MSFS 2020 in 2023 Guess I will keep using it for 2020 rather than 2024. The SSD was cheaper than the aviators edition btw lol. 200€ for a bugged game. Thanks god I decided to just try it in gamepass and decide later on which version to buy. But at this point its not even worth the money, guess I'm waiting for a discount here.
The whole game is petabytes of data
The problem with these publishers releasing these games earlier than when they're actually ready is that the word of mouth about how broken they are spreads fast on the internet. They want to get the sales early and fix things later, but once the tea gets cold, no one cares anymore, especially in the games industry, where there's something new to look at around every corner. No man's Sky, Fall Out 76 and Sea of Thieves are all great games today, but their player numbers reflect that of something niche due to having poor launches. If publishers want players to stay, they have to come out of the gate swinging, and then retain those numbers with content support down the line, but if they're gonna come out cold, people will leave, and once people leave, they usually never come back.
Well said
but if everyone already paid there £200 what does it matter eyyyyy moneys in the back - its no live service game. Our entire CULTURE is fast money, how much can we rip the next guy off for. So dont expect anything different any time soon. Sorry to burst your bubble.
I agree. I personally just wait for reviewers after launch, than to believe all the pre-launch hype. Than don't buy a game until the devs have sorted their s..t out. But by then I probably have lost interest and playing something else.
My two cents on the topic:
I played MSFS24 for about 20 hours, over 95% in free flight. I just touched the career mode briefly with the first introduction flight. But this worked without any issues. Only the AI voice is terrible, but since I'm not interested in career mode, I really don't care.
The issues I had, like most of us, were connection issues. And I was rather surprised MS messed this up so badly. But, again, nothing too terrible since it worked the next day mostly as it should. Compared with the MSFS20 launch this is so much better! I wonder if everybody already forgot how broken the game was. It took ages to load if at all, a boatload of airplanes had only three working switches, Autopliots did not track or, even worse, crashed the plane directly into the ground when activated, game freezes and crashes, all steering configurations were gone from one day to another and so on...
On the other hand MSFS24 is way more stable and feature rich. The addition of EFB is a blessing for beginners. Yes, fiddling with LlittleNavMap/Simbrief/Navigraph is fun, but quite hard to get into. For me, programming Garmin/MCDU by hand is one key element of a flight. Having every information (METAR/Runways/ILS frequencies, etc.) directly build into the game makes programming way easier. And big big plus, you can export your route from the on board navigation system into the EFB. Due to different chart versions it was often a guessing game to find a route that can be programmed in LittleNavMap/Simbrief AND your navigation system exactly the same.
All in all I must say I am very happy with MSFS 2024. Yes, it is not perfect (and most likely will never be as MSFS2020 never was) but for how I play it's a win. There are a few things I noticed like a glitching auto throttle in the Pilatus PC-12 and still the most annoying thing, even with raytracing on the cockpit lighting is crap. Turning on the overhead lights, even just a bit, should make enough light to see the overhead panel... but you are still looking into a black void. It seems all controll configurations from MSFS2024 are imported but not entirley. Only half of the buttons on my two TM.16000 work as in 2020. And it's a shame your achievements/ flight hours from 2020 are not counting for 2024...
I will stick with msfs 2020. The problem I believe is that, unlike 2020, most of 2024 is streamed from the cloud including the aircraft. Until there is an option for a download like 2020 these problems will continue.
exactly
100% agree. I refunded my on series x. Big mistake using cloud. I didn't mind 2020 huge install. Ground is blurry , buildings missing, textures not loading in.
I didn’t know you couldn’t download. That’s a deal breaker! Wow.
No doubt it is a stupid decision. Funny enough, It takes longer or at least as long as it took to load the sim or a flight with 2020.
But the cloud works now?
Microsoft is just saving money. They want you to do the user testing for them and then they will fix the bugs as you report it.
It's worse than that. They want to lock us in a game as a service. Notice how they encrypted the plane files, making modding impossible. And notice the "purchase more liveries" button.
I think they just told AI to take 2020 and make a game with it, because this just reeks of AI. Only mistakes that AI can make, I find it hard to believe a game dev made some of these and signed off on it.
@@kyzer97320 Yea I've seen this and this part is disgusting, hopefully it's not the road they're taking, if they do they don't know their fanbase at all.
My issue with the game is my Thrustmaster HOTAS 4 not being able to map the flight controls. All of the buttons work but I can't use my throttle or flight stick to move the flight controls. Is there another flight stick or control system that would be better to use?
After the 'let down' of MSFS2020, I decided I would not invest time or money into the 2024 iteration for at least one year. It took a year for MSFS2020 to NOT lock up while flying. None of the issues surprise me at all...
I will be 77 in two months. Will I be burning in Hell before the flight sim dumpster fire goes out? I took two flights on the second day and the first one in the NX Cub went okay. But the next one was in a Bell 407 helicopter and after flying for 10 minutes or so it became uncontrollable and crashed. At three days after launch I got in the flying lawn chair/drone thing and down low there were trees growing out of the roadway. That's not "photogrammetry" that's photo travesty. I wish Asobo would make another video and let us know IF they can fix it and if so, WHEN. What irritates e most was the control programming set up. I have a bunch of videos on that subject stored for future reference but I wish they would have some official guidance on that, accessible in the sim, instead of letting us figure it out for ourselves. I still haven't attempted to fully set up my controls in FS2020. At least you can apply settings to individual planes in 2024. One more point, the pre-launch get together of flight simmers in LAs Vegas led us to believe everything was figured out and would work well on launch day. WTF happened between then and now?
They will make you play this game in hell just to torture you
With all the helicopters featured in the trailers, I was hopeful that Asobo had improved the rotorcraft flight model. Nope. They didn't even touch it. There is no ground effect, no weathervaning in forward flight, and the torque pedals behave as an on/off switch. Clearly, no one at Asobo has ever held a cyclic, and they certainly never asked any helicopter pilots for feedback. A huge swing and miss, that once again, third party devs will have to cobble together their own hacked up flight model to paper over Asobo's lack of caring.
Why is anyone surprised at the Pooched "Launch" that was just a repeat of FS2020; and why does everyone ignore the fact that FS2020 was supposed to have the "Career Mode" that they are hyping for FS2024?
I have a feeling 2024 started out as just an update for 2020. The biggest tell is SteamVR thinking it is running MSFS 2020 when it is running 2024.
It was supposed to have a lot of things that got pushed to 2024 to sell it as a "new sim" like Seasons
And half the "new stuff in 2024 is just freeware we have in 2020
Glad I didn't buy it.
I had the same problem ,overflying airports and the ATC froze and they send you to ridiculous air strips.let’s hope they fix it since they got our money.the walking is ok if your not in a melted city.
Career Mode is Terrible. I'm getting all the same glitches too. This really was confusing and frustrating. and expensive.
I had waaaaaaaaay less problems with 2024, 2020 took me a week to get it to start and performance in VR was a joke until now.
Yeah, I’ve had no issues since the queue ended. Just smooth flying and admiring the views. My wifi isn’t the best but it isn’t that bad either so it shouldn’t be a wifi problem that others are experiencing. I just kinda wish that my hotas would work properly with the game as it is an officially Xbox licences hotas but I’m sure they will fix it in the future.
VR got better yeah? Still need to buy 2024 but I've a bit older CPU with a 4090 though and hope 2024 uses the CPU more so also GPU gets utilized more.
I was in the 2020 Alpha and had few problems from then until now except for Console oriented updates that screwed it up.
That said it was as much an Alpha as 2024 is, on that I agree.
I've tried the career several times and it will refuse to acknowledge when I'm looking at the controls it wants me to. Unable to move forward, simply won't notice that I am actually looking at the RPM indicator.
I have discovered there is NO Azure data centre in South East Asia - Just 1 Azure availabilty zone in Singapore - so for me launch time is 30+ minutes. When I get in many aircraft missing including the C172 which is pretty critical for gameplay. Graphics look like I'm flying around a Minecraft city - and that is with 350Mbs upload and download - Microsoft should have provided the Azure map as well as stating a minimum download speed
I downloaded it as soon as it got released on pc gamepass, I flew a plane once in 48 hours and stopped trying since.
I've had 12 successful flights in the last 3 days. In VR it's mind blowing. Highly recommended, but I would have advised folks stay clear for a couple of weeks until things settle down. I use a VPN to America to get a reliable connection to the servers, and of course that's not right.
It's time we just stop buying all these big AAA title companies games because Black ops 6 they had four years to develop and it's trash I also play NHL series games made by EA sports and the new NHL 25 it's trash Microsoft flight simulator 2024 it's trash I can go on and on also DCS is lying to their customers and not finishing products that people buy an early access phases
It's a beta product. Ridiculous they call this a full release.
@@michaelsuede 100% and we are the beta testers.
Its more like a way too early alpha test...
It's a cash grab
I thought it was full
So was 2020. The amount of updates and fixed since release is staggering. But it's the new black. Release a beta, then develop with community feedback.
Agreed 100%! Before you uninstall though, try a hot air balloon (regular), start the burners, then switch camera to external a couple of times (might only need once!), I laughed so hard I damn near cried as a sheet of flame was suddenly bursting out form the bottom of the basket, engulfing my pilot in flames... An apt metaphor I felt! :p
In VR, every time I looked up toward the burners, the ballon collapses!
I saw one video on Twitter / X the guy took his FlyDoo motorized hot air balloon into Space. And it does appear we can go MUCH higher into space compared to 2020. 🤣
With that said...I fully suspect - when, if this title gets more stable...which I THINK it will someday, someone will slap a few low orbit spacecrafts, event he ISS into the new Marketplace.
I was lucky I guess. I waited until I saw all the reviews come flooding in on launch day and didn’t even attempt to download this hot mess. The refund for my Aviators Edition I put in for that evening. Literally within minutes I got an email saying my refund request had been approved. Just got another email a few days ago saying my credit card was being credited with the full amount. Another Microsoft bullet dodged.
Aside from the opening few days of glitches and an expected set of bugs to work out over time, 2024 is absolutely amazing.
You're delusional or in denial.
But It was very obvious it wasn't ready on the lead up to launch.
The SDK was released to devs just 1 month before and was not only bugged but missing core content!
The dev streams were only about 3rd party aircraft and the "world" dev stream was dropped without announcement or explanation.
There were no review copies sent out and there was no preview footage of the finished game.
There was radio silence from the devs on all the features they had promised but not talked about.
Then we heard the market place wouldn't be up at launch.
I didn't pre purchase but it is even worse than I thought because the game actually looks worse in many cases and has all the same bugs and missing core features as 2020 since 5 years ago!
Like crappy immersion breaking bugged road traffic (which they said was improved) and ATC still being in Alpha state on a next NEXT gen flight sim!
FPS is actually worse on last gen X3d chips than 2020 and everything being streamed means scenery or textures not loading in properly at times..
And where is all the stuff Jorg said was in the sim in the 2024 seminar?
"New satellite imagery across the planet."
"Improved and New photogrammetry cities (Twice as many)"
"One Million Sq Kilometres New LIDAR data" (Hi res height elevation data)
I don't see any of it on the videos I have watched.
Finally Jorg also said 2020 would get a patch with the new satellite imagery and stuff the day after 2024 launch, no patch!
The same thing happened when MSFS2020 first came out - didn't work - bugs, etc. That's why I never bought MSFS2024 and probably won't for a year - Which is what I did with MSFS2020
The low flight challenges in the f18 will keep me busy for months.
It's utterly pathetic. So many bugs it will be a year before they get to them all. All the simps on the forums trying to make excuses for Asobo. I got a refund and then I switched to Game Pass for $1 for 14 days after which I will cancel Game Pass. And no, the servers aren't fixed. New reports today of blurry terrain and missing buildings and long load times.
use say intentions or Beyond ATC
Yeah, think I'll wait for a while for them to update things to make it work. I'm doing fine with 2020.
It is a weird new form of sycophancy for people to Simp for corporations and Gov's, some people have been infantilised and see them as their Daddy.
So 2024 will be ready in 2028
just in time for them to announce FS2028, "now with all the missing promised content from FS2024"; because that is exactly what they did with FS2020.
No. Already in 2026 but in 2027 the 2028 will be announced :D
For me, 2024 has been running better than 2020 ever did, with less bugs and less crashes, since the day after launch. Major issue the game was having wasn't the game. It was nVIDIA driver issues. Thankfully I went AMD years ago and never regretted it.
Data consumption is my biggest problem, even with photogrammetry off it's too much, and yeah there are so many bugs but it's mainly the career mode than anything else, the launch is bad but common it's definitely not as bad as cyberpunk or NMS, definitely not NMS.
The biggest thing they need to do is let us download the planes, don't stream the planes because streaming it feels very inconsistent, sometimes textures are there other times it's missing, so many missing sounds, just let us download the planes. Following that it has to be career mode, it's bad, it's extremely buggy.
Beta testing isn’t for everybody, especially when you’re not supposed to be beta testing.
After the launch imbroglio finally settled down, I’ve enjoyed an excellent VR experience in Flight Simulator 2024. Performance is good, lighting is better than 2020, & scenery is significantly improved. I have 980 hours in 2020, almost all of it in VR; I’m 20 hours into 2024.
I’m mainly a VFR scenery tourist, just spawning in mid-air & flying around. My biggest gripe is that some of the planes I purchased in 2020 still aren’t available in 2024.
I dont think scenery is improved !
Does mouse work for you in VR? 😁
This post could have been me typing, because it is my exact experience. Oh, how I miss my little Su-26MX. I hope it will be available soon. VR performance was absolutely unusable at first but I realised I had forgotten to update NVidia drivers. Works very well now.
@@ЮрійГордієнко-х2з The mouse will work. And if it stops working, just hit a button on the motion controller, or on an xbox controller if you have one connected, and it will bring the mouse back. It's a minor bug, and easy to work around. They'll fix it.
There is no way to sort or filter your list of missions in career mode so it gets crazy. You no longer can see other player names within 50 NM, it's less than 5 NM so you struggle to track your friends flying nearby. Pilatus PC 24 landing gear never retracts. Those are just off the top of my head.
I agree on the friends multiplayer implementation, definitely need some improvements. As well as some netcode improvements for updating positions, planes and character models. But overall pretty happy with the rest.
I always find it curious how people today can agree to pay and make excuses for things they bought that don't work as promised?
It’ll be interesting to see how many of the existing bugs will last over the next four years, while they add ‘new great’ other features. That’s Osobos track record so far.
This is why I am very thankful for gamepass to let me try this on PC without a full purchase.
I'm kind of happy they released it but it should have been clearly labelled as a beta, not been launched as a full release and the rollout staged over a week or two. It's definitely not "customer release" quality software at the moment.
My main annoyances at the moment:
- Engine sound seems to work on about a quarter of launches
- Sometimes trigger look on my flightstick works and sometimes it doesn't
- Water handling is broken, possibly worse than in 2020! For example the Carbon Cub will backflip with full throttle and full up elevator
- Weird resets flying through gates in the time trials. It's not even the same as hitting something, it simply resets you back a bit with no message why. I've only tried this so far in the Carbon Cub and it's currently unplayable.
- Crazy default config for my Thrustmaster stick and pedals. It's one of the most common around and the rudder defaulted to the throttle and the pedals initially!
- Oversensitive controls feeling like early FS2020 where you needed to adjust the control curves manually
I've not tried either photo or career mode myself so can't comment on those.
Well it did take 6 years for No Man's Sky. So 1 week in.........
I’m in a suburb of NYC. Load times yesterday took 49 minutes. Sim crashed to desktop while I was exploring efb in c172. Second load time was again 49 minutes. Intenet speed in home is 500 mbs. So I’m not seeing improvements in the servers. I don’t have time to wait an hour to get in.
i purchased fs2020 on pc and played it for about 10hours. then turn off the pc the the next morning im back on the pc and theres no game?? WTF going on the game is gone the only thing left is the file folder.?? i payed over $200 for it to only disappears on me, has this ever happen to any one.
The fact that this Fallout 76 survivor is this angry at the game. It is measuring as the new most catastrophic release ever in gaming.
Oh, come on. It is not the worst failure, it is the MOST RECENT failure. You will be yelling about another live service game launch next week and will likely forget all about this one.
FO76 is great now, btw.
I understand the sentiment. We would like to have games to be playable Day 1. Unfortunately people buying hype and companies happy to sell whatever they have at the moment and fix (maybe) later. While demand is high situation will not improve. At the same time I'd like to give Microsoft some credit for keeping flight simulator alive and mostly up to date, especially global Earth coverage. Nobody else can do it on such a huge scale and luckily it's not using Unreal engine 5.
Are the servers fixed? I have tried and tried to load since day one, up until yesterday (Sunday). It NEVER got past 98%. I had no intention to leave it loading for more hours than a game from the era of cassettes would have taken to load. I have requested a refund, as, up until yesterday I was not on game pass.
If this does get fixed, yes I would certainly re-install it on my Series X. Nearly one week in and it is still a total farce.
Forget 'Cloud' streaming and give us a FULL INSTALLATION.
***Update***......They have refused to refund me. Why does that NOT surprise me.
I had an airport deny my VFR request on a perfectly clear day. Decided to request IFR anyways, just to not get the penalty, then my enter key was shown on the top right of the screen to acknowledge clearance, and to request taking off again. The game chose to put me on an endless "request IFR clearance" loop instead of acknowledging atc. I took off anyways and was straight up denied landing. This was all at an airport with an X'd out runway, mind you.
I was never able to successfully download 2020. The download would always crash and never complete no matter how much time I spent trying.
For me, 2024 has been great! Day one was awful, but since then I’ve been playing relatively seamlessly
I had a two hour flight in career mode and my plan ran out of fuel on approach, that was the last straw for me.
Most licenses have ZERO training available, commercial helicopters license offers ZERO paid missions. Several licenses aren’t even available and are just place holders. Career mode is pre-alpha, but paid $130 for it? I feel confident they will fix these, but how in the heck was this even released in this 20% complete state??
I was disappointed in the water texture effects when flying close to the surface… seems non existent.
And what’s with the skid marks any time you’re using normal braking??
I don't think we are playing the same game. The water was stunning when I played it. very realistic waves, and then when I was flying around the bahamas, I saw all the reefs under the water. beautiful!
I just want to know if they plan to add the AI Flight Assistant back in. Or Auto complete checklists and why it was even removed
The main problem i'm having is that I am enjoying the game but the past 2 days it crashes to the desktop every 10 to 20 minutes completely exiting the game.
I gave up on Microsoft flight 2024 I'm using game pass with VR go to the functions do not work properly. My flight joysticks they don't work properly. Why did they change some of the functions on the keys
Been playing on Gamepass, and man it's been a nightmare.
I'm a VR gamer, so seeing the game has a VR mode and all that I was overjoyed. MSFS has all kinds of little things to meddle with, which is like 90% of the fun of virtual reality.
HOWEVER.
The game is simply broken. Setting up VR is enough of a nightmare - I have a 4060ti, so not the beefiest of VR hardware but certainly no slouch, but even then I had to dial many things well and far back in order to simply get a framerate that won't result in sickness even passively staring in one direction with everything moving slowly on screen. Not a deal breaker, it's a heavy game, and nothing in the world is optimized these days, so not a surprise. But but but.... the controls... oh boy, the controls.
So I got a Quest 3, using virtual desktop to play. I use the controllers, because the hand tracking is a nightmare. Or I would use the controllers, but the thing keeps trying to jump to hand tracking whenever it can. So I'm always fighting the system trying to switch to hand tracking, pressing buttons over and over to get it to re-enable the controllers. I figured I could try to maybe use a xbox controller instead, especially for other issues I'll get to in a second, but I wanted to have a vr controller on hand just in case I need it for more poke-and-do tasks. Thing is, if I have the analog stick even slightly moved, the VR controller turns off and I gotta go smashing buttons to turn it on again.. all the while, it's still trying to override the xbox controller with hand tracking while I'm actively using the xbox controller.
Now if it's using the vr controllers "properly" it's still astonishingly half assed. You know the standard "hold the home button to recenter your view" of every single VR game ever made? Well, count this as the one that doesn't do that. You hit left shift on the keyboard, or the X button (closer button) on the left controller. Yep, on of the main action buttons is the recenter view button, instead of the standard.
Now when you get out of the airplane, that's when things get especially ridiculous. There is no way in VR on the VR controllers to rotate your view. You cannot turn. Well then, what does the right stick do? Simple! Nothing. Nothing at-fucking-all, it does absolute jack shit. The right grip button is your crouch button. Yep, they remembered the crouch button, even though you will auto-crouch near your wings and don't actually even need a manual crouch button, but you can't turn.
Despite ALL THIS so far, I haven't even got to the worst problem with the game. You might have been expecting this, but surprise surprise, it doesn't even function.
I can dick around in free flight, but I wanted to get some actual tasks done.. so... seeing as I have near no idea what I'm doing, I went into the activities, tutorials, and started at square one. First red flag? The description box reads something like "basiccontrols_tutorial_VR" or the like. Launch it, they give the little rundown "I'll be your teacher, blah blah blah, this is a cessna, blah blah blah" and finally "hide the yoke with your controller of choice." So I poke the yoke, it disappears, the tutorial lady says "Great!" and then.... nothing! No further task loads, nothing happens. For a few frames, it flashes "use the cursor to interact with the cabin" on the task box, but I've poked every last button in that airplane, it doesn't progress the tutorial. I've started the thing up and smashed into the hangar doors. Nothing. I've got out of the plane and walked in the one and only pre-determined direction I'm allowed to face. Nothing.
So that's it. First step of the first tutorial, and I can go no further.
I could go on about the keyboard randomly turning off and being unable to access the menu, the game locking the mouse so hard alt+tab doesn't release it, the task manager being BEHIND the game and me having to straight up hold my PC's power button to get out of it... but yeah...
Anyway, I gave em a 1 star review.
I got penalties for a crash because my plane spawned half inside a building. "Crashed" before I even touched the controls!
Even after launch issues, there is a bug or two in virtually every flight I take. I'm not sure if it could even be called a beta...
And the worst part is the high price people paid to be able to play an overly hyped game which doesn't yet deliver on what they paid so much for.
It wasn't overhyped at all, 2020 was.
And I'm having a blast with 2024, I didn't have any server or connection issue since day 2.
Is it perfect? No. Is it polished? HARD NO. Will it get better? Yes.
2020 was a dumpster fire for a LONG time. 2024 is playable if you don’t have 3rd world country internet. I definitely saw some performance issues, but 2020 had that too. I think with a few months time, it will improve a lot.
My plane spawned in on a hill in career mode. When I removed the wheel blocks the plane started rolling down the hill without me in it. Good job Microsoft.
Three career missions yesterday. Passenger gets into the TBM, nose baggage door opens and can't be closed again.
I bought the tbm for vip charter and sold my old plane to do so big mistake.
plane didn’t have fuel. and gave me 7 different error codes on different missions. literally unplayable. thinking about selling the tbm for 200k loss because i can’t even play.
Yup, I’m where you are at in terms of frustration, half of the planes won’t even load without freezing. Missions having me take off from a runway that don’t exist, invisible flight patterns and on it goes. I uninstalled it I got so pissed off with it
I just did a 3h flight and b/c about to run out fuel i had to skip
(do the game want me to land in any airport and get fuel?)
From $10k credit i only got $760 😅
I get random crashes that either locks up game or just closes and takes me back to windows
Vikingair running out of fuel mid flight with no way to request more from airport
I am truly sorry and sympathetic of your negative experience. I wish I could share my experience. Mine is quite the opposite of all this negativity (though understandable). Yes, day one was impossible. Since, I have been in awe of how superior 24 is over 20. I sincerely hope it works out for you in the future.
You didn't even get to the part of the career mode where you helo starts bouncing before loading has finished and you are hit with crash and wrecking of your reputation, not to mention its completely unplayable at this point.
I've had my share of preorder disappointments and this is one of them. The beta testing didn't occur before the initial release. That was Alfa testing. The beta testing is NOW and we're all the testers. To be fair, there are some things that I believe 2024 does better than 2020. The new trees and seasons are very good and getting out of the aircraft and walking around is really nice as well. I greatly look forward to MS actually polishing the sim over time
When I requested a REFUND from Microsoft UK they denied it immediately saying that this was because I'd requested too many refunds this year. Complete BS because I'd not requested any at all! Until now. So this means that I now have to explain UK Consumer Law to MS by proxy and by asking PayPal to open a dispute with Microsoft UK. Pretty appalling eh? Why did I request a refund? Put simply there was no way I could get to fly even though I am a merry IFR pilot in MSFS 2020 - but also because if you fly over Europe's highest sand dune (Dune Du Pilat) near Arcachon in France and compare the scenery that 2020 provides (via add-ons) to what 2024 does - its a disgrace. AND whatever happened to 'SAVE FLIGHT'?????
Don't know if it's just me but I'm so glad someone has finally said it. Even after the atrocious connectivity issues on day 1 / 2 there's still so much wrong with the game. It's ALMOST forgivable to have had those server issues considering it's the first of it's kind to attempt to stream a massive game like this but the actual game itself is full of bugs and issues that I just can't look past and haven't seen any of the big sim TH-camrs mentioning. For me it's mainly been controller and audio issues.
The longer people play - the more bugs will be uncovered. Asobo has had a serious QA problem for years, and a horrible track record for fixing bugs.
The ONLY problem i have with the game/sim is about 75% of the time i leave a flight....the menu glitches so bad that navigation is impossible without having to hard close the application.
Im playing gamepass because i dodnt plan to purchase until after my 4080 build in a few weeks.
Career mode also penalizing me for taxiing over the runway, while it's the only way to get to the hold short position. I also suffered from not seeing the flight path, until I realized you can toggle this on or off by pressing the L-button (on Xbox).
Great video mate.
I'm one of the players who downloaded via xbox gamepass as there was no way I was paying before a proper test.
The release was a complete cluster...k.
I'm a patient guy (65 now) but I was livid when it released.
Everyone said it would happen but ms and asobo basically waved their two fingers at us.
Like you say, after the servers settled down it runs and looks lovely but the career mode, while being really enjoyable just regularly kicks you in the balls.
Regularly crashing (including on final which means you have to fly that mission again....from scratch) and often crashing after you've landed and taxiid in.
Irritating but at least your progress is saved.
This version was supposed to be better, direct x 12, newer engine, bells and whistles etc.
If I was head honcho at MS quite a few of these people would have been picking up their unemployment cheque the following Monday.
Looks like they learned nothing after the fiasco of 2020......and that is inexcusable!!
Liked and subscribed :)
Asobo aren't that bad, it's Microsoft the publisher that forced the release, just like they did with the first title.
ive not been able to get over a 28% landing rate it just doesn't work
I tend to be torn on the issue. I think no matter how thorough game developers are, games will always be shaky at launch to some extent. but I think we can all agree that early access culture has been a net negative for the gaming industry as a whole and has definitely made the problem worse, or so it seems. The technical structure of games has not remained static and games themselves continue to be larger and more complex than ever before. Surely the larger the game and the larger the scope, the more difficult it is to achieve perfection on a day one launch. I think developers have to be held more accountable, but I also think that gamers have to manage their own expectations and exercise a little bit of patience and understanding every once in a while too. It goes both ways
Funny that 2020 just got the VR sorted out and now starting over with 2024. Although I did get the Pimax controller to show in VR, but it's very glitchy, mouse pointer does nothing, no interaction with the ins panel. Have to check settings more carefully. Planning to continue with 2020 until the teething issues are fixed on 2024.
Seems that if you don't use RTX DLSS graphics, it runs like a slideshow in VR. They need to update min PC specs for VR ?
I’m on Xbox and the mouse is messed up I can’t even look around in the cockpit. I went back to 2020.
This was one of the games I was looking forward to play all year…. Last night MY COMPUTER TOOK A DUMP. Idk what it was but I tweaked the crap out of my pc cause this game kept crashing…. :( now idk what’s wrong with it. I’m gonna try to do a fresh install of windows… wish me luck.
Man I gotta say I disagree it has some minor bugs in the career mode but the majority of the experience after day one has been a huge improvement. From its substantially better flight model to its huge graphics update it’s very very good. also a hardcore sim will always drop player counts shortly after launch when the casual market that come to see what its all about and realize that most won’t stick around. You don’t need to keep playing but making a video acting like this game doesn’t work at all is disingenuous at best. Not to mention it does more harm than good.
"Man I gotta say I disagree it has some minor bugs in the career mode" .... "disagree" all you like buddy the FUCKING FACTS are, it is buggy... I FUCKING LITERALLY SHOWED SEVERAL OF THE BUGS HAPPENING, IN THIS VERY VIDEO, FOR FUCKS SAKE just for your dumbass to pretend they don't exist.
Piss off mate.
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@@BluntyTV love the way you rage
The bugs aren’t minor at all. I’ve seen a load of visual bugs. Hidden character, aircraft or scenery textures. Airports that look like crap, merged world objects, Autopilot no longer or barely working, poor and unresponsive UI, poor menu design, frequent crashing. Terrible AI voices in career mode, messed up taxi pathways, I could go on and more.
There is no toggle for the ATC window,there is an option to open the ATC window but no option to clode it WHY??!!! That's only one of a series of ommisions and don't get me started on the new GUI system, 2020 was bad but the new one defies normal language description without resorting to foul (but appropriate) more colourful wording.....................................................
I keep having game freezing enough in flight to crash I keep having engines randomly shut off out of nowhere flight paths keep disappearing randomly around take off and landing auto pilot randomly will turn off or be on and nose dive me into the ground it’s almost impossible to complete missions on career mode because the game straight up isint working the way it should
Same here; I'm done until they fix it. Coming back to MSFS 2020.
Completely agree with this excellent assessment. Bought it like most people on day 1 and not had a single flight. Screen aberrations the minute i load up a plane which appear to be air flow metrics or something in Free Flight mode, sound disappears, drone mode doesn't work etc etc. Game was not ready for release and still isn't. Its a shame as it will eventually sort itself out but i think months not weeks
I returned msfs 2024 for a refund...the not mapping the simple inputs for joystick controls and making it very difficult to give your inputs for your controller was the final straw. Been playing since msfs 2000..So sad ...
Day one was a loss, ran fantastic last night and I saw the potential. I do hate having to redo 4 yrs of settings and not having my hanger. But this too will pass.
I love flying 1 1/2 - 2 hrs just for my engine just to stop working entirely or them not putting enough fuel in my plane. Also love sitting still and getting penalized for putting my flaps down while sitting still. Can’t even earn enough money to get my company.
2020 is also available on GamePass, so it's better to just install that, and wait for them to fix 2024.
While the new fun features sound flawed currently I'm still fairly happy with it as a core simmer. The visuals and performance have seen a serious improvement which matters to me most. Once PMDG aircraft are ported over I'm really going to enjoy this one.
I do agree though it was released too early, and it was because 2024 was in the name. We also don't know what happened behind the scenes. It's very likely Asobo's hands where tied trying to keep M$ happy.
I'm very optimistic about the future of this Sim.
It only took me 5 days to set up my controller bindings. The servers are working better because the provisioned the load balancing and enabled auto scaling.
I'm just waiting 6 months for things to stabilize.
F this game dude, keeps crashing, drop rating for no reason, crash mid flight, gamepass player so luckly didnt cost anything but as annoying as what you can get
The servers aren't ok.
In the UK the main issues were fixed by day 3 after release. But then they came back with a vengeance at the weekend and are still happening now.
It's impossible to launch a flight in any mode of gameplay.
Funny that I'm in the UK and playing it right now.
Totally agree. I'm in the UK and it's diabolical. I've not been able to do a single flight yet.
On game pass, it literally doesn’t even work at all. Can’t get past the first career mission, controls don’t work and it doesn’t tell you how to access the menus it wants you to get into. Free flight crashes before I even get to the runway. It’s absolute garbage. See ya!
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I'm also done. Blurry globe. Need to restart the game after 1 flight. Career mode freezing at the start.
Why is the world map still several years old? It still has Georgia Dome and Turner Field in Atlanta, Georgia. The dome is long gone, and TF is a football stadium for Georgia State University.
The career mode is fun. Rumor is they are adding a micro transaction system to it.
With the right addon plane like the fenix it’s usable. Most of the issues seem to be sever issues so they need to let us download as much as we want. Stream scenery is fine but everything should be local
A month or two? Lol... Are you even familiar with Asobo? Try years. It took them 2.5 years to fix premium deluxe aircraft in 2020.
some things you mentioned are bugs like the flaps, some things like lights are just standard operational practice, are their bugs? yes, are the instructions inconsistant for newer less knowledgable players? yes, is it broken beyond playable? no as ive posted consistant A/S grades for flights without using the visual flight path and markers. that said its still unacceptable that the game has bugs and that it is NOT FEATURE COMPLETE. not shouting at anyone just making the point stand out in the comments.
For some reason 2020 has more accurate buildings. For example, fly across the amalfi coast in 2020 vs 2024 and 2020 is Def more accurate.
I’m so relieved someone else is having the same problems. I’m new to this game and I thought I was just completely garbage lol
It will take longer than a month to fix this and i would venture that there needs to be architectural changes before I would be interested again. I wish they had stuck to the core pillars that made 2020 a success.
Spawning in buildings and getting penalized for moving
Such a shame the new version they worked hard on ended up releasing so bad with so many bugs. 2020 had less bugs than this one by far comparison. I loved the idea of having a fun carrier mode added onto it though as a option for casual players. I'm hoping they fix the bugs mega soon, was looking forward to upgrading from the fun 2020 version. But I guess I'll also wait it out a bit. Thanks for these videos blunty on these warnings. Guess I'll wait it out as well before upgrading.