Will a Wooden Disc golf Disc Fly?

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ต.ค. 2018
  • Wanted to try and make some wooden disc golf discs for some friends as gifts. Wanted them to look good and if they actually flew...well that would be icing on the cake. Hope you enjoy.
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    -Jody
    "Don't make something unless it is both necessary and useful; but if it is both necessary and useful, don't hesitate to make it beautiful." -Shaker Philosophy
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  • @emmerich10
    @emmerich10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +242

    I can't imagine anything worse than trying to find a dark, wood stained disc in amongst the trees, brush, and leaves. But the craftsmanship is off the chains!

    • @Episcleritis
      @Episcleritis 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      If he pulls that thing out in a round, we're not helping him look for it until he paints it white.

    • @PlightOfAMan
      @PlightOfAMan 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      In*

    • @birdinflight3861
      @birdinflight3861 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Literally...off the chains

    • @maksenDK
      @maksenDK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      when i started golfing i bought a clear midrage... I don't have that one anymore.

  • @rustman1984
    @rustman1984 5 ปีที่แล้ว +396

    Dude, you gotta show some full power rips on those things so we can see how well they fly

    • @madkilla9
      @madkilla9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Maybe those were full power rips...?

    • @Christopher-Lenz
      @Christopher-Lenz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Yea seriously. I watched the whole vid (was impressive and cool) and was excited to see it in action but instead get one 100 ft throw

    • @eerohakanen6103
      @eerohakanen6103 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those were full power

    • @atte9702
      @atte9702 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@eerohakanen6103 if you think those were full power you should get good

    • @zikizikizinnune8904
      @zikizikizinnune8904 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@atte9702 tod. Näk. Hän meinaa et tän videon tekijän kädelle täys heitto

  • @thrasherkid11
    @thrasherkid11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +189

    you sound like mcbeth lol, great video

  • @terrytexas8257
    @terrytexas8257 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You should approach one of the major manufacturers (Discraft, Innova etc...) about making these into champion trophy discs awarded to the winner of a Tournament. Would be much better than the traditional trophy. Nice Job!

  • @lanepemberton8886
    @lanepemberton8886 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow. TH-cam recommended a woodworking video about disc golf where the dude sounds like a cross between frank howarth and Paul McBeth. Thank you YT ❤️

  • @kentuckymn4367
    @kentuckymn4367 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    McBeth signed with jodies woodworking, congrats!

    • @masonhughes3977
      @masonhughes3977 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I was wondering if anyone else thought he sounded like Paul 😂

  • @tim6600
    @tim6600 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    You could make some great trophys.

    • @63off
      @63off 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is exactly what I was thinking. Not much good in a game but you could make a bit of a business making some sweet trophies with these.

  • @raulendymion1
    @raulendymion1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great idea!! They would make awesome trophies !
    Well done.

  • @jeffthompson1621
    @jeffthompson1621 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wow man that was rad.. 1st run woodie!

  • @cappew22
    @cappew22 5 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    The chiseling at 6:00 got me PTSD from woodworking class in middle school. I take it you've never slipped. I suppose you throw with your right hand so it's all good.
    Jokes aside, looks great! Would be awesome to test one! Good job.

    • @aaron.silveira
      @aaron.silveira 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      cappew22 I was watching that same part and glancing nervously down at the 1.5 inch gash that is currently healing on my left palm😂 chisels can do some serious damage

    • @jukkahuuskonen
      @jukkahuuskonen 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah, my thoughts exactly. Left thumb still a bit sore sometimes. Luckily my chisel was sharp enough to stop on bone and NOT start skimming along it...

    • @Mthompson2100
      @Mthompson2100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was literally scrolling through the comments to see if anyone said this exact thing. I help kids out with woodworking classes and that part of me may have been scolding the video out loud haha

    • @jawaring4367
      @jawaring4367 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Came to the comments looking for a 6:00 mark. was not disappointed.

    • @soloryderrr
      @soloryderrr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jukkahuuskonen Exact same thing happened to me as well!

  • @exitthegame
    @exitthegame 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Awesome. It would be really fun to see some more drives with it. Can you make more of these?

  • @IEnjoyCreatingVideos
    @IEnjoyCreatingVideos 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video Jody! Thanks for sharing.👍😎JP

  • @dixonjowers792
    @dixonjowers792 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That is fascinating. Thanks for the video, creativity and craftsmanship.

  • @jasondemartin2314
    @jasondemartin2314 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it. Let me know when you begin to sell these. That would be perfect on my wall of collectors discs.

  • @sanguine1988
    @sanguine1988 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very cool man! I agree, these would make excellent trophies!

  • @johnwallace4408
    @johnwallace4408 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice TURN! A hint to help you getting your project off the glue block is to cut a cross in your glue at least 1/4 x 1/4 inch. This give one a place to pry from. Go slowly and rotate the piece and pry from all 4 corners. If done correctly, not damage to your piece and no glue clean up! SAFE TURNING, John.

  • @discgolfmark6444
    @discgolfmark6444 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very very nice. I love me some woodworking. I love me some disc golf. The best of all I would love me one of those wooden discs. Absolutely beautiful.

  • @johncmathews5729
    @johncmathews5729 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your work here!

  • @osmoduh
    @osmoduh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What a nice idea! I would love to know how heavy the disc is and see some proper power throws with it.

  • @CoachLoganD
    @CoachLoganD 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That was awesome

  • @nickjayne9994
    @nickjayne9994 5 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Finally, something stable enough to not turnover on my 275 foot bomb drives

    • @aaron.silveira
      @aaron.silveira 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nick Jayne wow 275? Did I see you playing at the worlds this year?

    • @stardustie
      @stardustie 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@aaron.silveira Sarcasm isnt your thing.

    • @NRafa7
      @NRafa7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@stardustie He WAS being sarcastic too lol duh

  • @LozanYo
    @LozanYo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video! I'd love to see one stamped with gold or even have some wood burning of a design or something. I'd def buy one!

  • @stevengoodman3985
    @stevengoodman3985 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    If you bake it before you paint it the wood will become lighter and stronger, just a tip.

  • @makermonkey6591
    @makermonkey6591 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done. I really like your calm style of video.

  • @Lou13Cyf3r
    @Lou13Cyf3r 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    very cool....produce more, I want 1!!

  • @KaPowSplat
    @KaPowSplat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Jody! It would be interesting to experiment with different types of wood, throwing styles, and weights.

  • @PFMTRH
    @PFMTRH 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool!

  • @ericennenga7218
    @ericennenga7218 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for doing this video.. I actually have some blanks cutout for mini's already - nice to see the entire process ahead of my attempt. =)

  • @Poppageno
    @Poppageno 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice! I wanted to make wood disc trophies in the 70's but didn't have the facilities.

  • @nicholashash1351
    @nicholashash1351 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video!!

  • @tylersineath
    @tylersineath 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude awesome video hope to see more I wish I had a shop to make cool stuff.

  • @mikeleimbach4754
    @mikeleimbach4754 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats awesome

  • @moif
    @moif 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would like to see a follow-up video where you do some more throws and show the damage the different woods take. Cool vid. Subscribed!

  • @kellyperry8020
    @kellyperry8020 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That thing is sick bro!

  • @JohnnyD5
    @JohnnyD5 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man, one throw in Central Oregon with all the rocky terrain and that wooden disc is toast.

  • @everettmcdonald2088
    @everettmcdonald2088 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent!!

  • @johnevans4890
    @johnevans4890 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That video was so soothing hahaha. Nice work man. I bet you were a lil anxious to throw that disc after all that work.

  • @Chris.Davies
    @Chris.Davies 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Of course it flies!
    I have turned over a dozen discs which I used as trophies, but I did test fly a few of them. What I found was that discs will be destroyed quickly unless they are plywood made from very tough woods.
    And so I ordered a bunch of laminated discs from Brad at Flywood - a now-defunct wooden golf disc maker. Brad made his own blanks from hand-made laminates of maple and something - I forget. The upshot is that the discs are extremely tough, and they are not harmed by impacts unless they hit asphalt or rocks.
    They also make an amazing sound when they hit trees, or the chains.
    Sadly, the PDGA requires discs to be flexible, so they could never be used in competition.

  • @joshbliss17
    @joshbliss17 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    looks awsome bro!

  • @Smitty55dirk
    @Smitty55dirk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would love to see some distance comparisons with the standard plastic disc. I would think that you could charge a good amount for wall Mount trophies. Engrave them, hang up. Great for disc golf tournaments. Just an idea.

  • @johnparker7945
    @johnparker7945 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    very cool!!

  • @Foxspinsdiscs
    @Foxspinsdiscs 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wish my wife was this enthusiastic about working wood

  • @cdsteiner2883
    @cdsteiner2883 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice trophy!

  • @bfouroh
    @bfouroh 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Subscribed! Nice video my guy.. shout out to disc golf!

  • @robmitchel5166
    @robmitchel5166 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice video man! I never thought about a disc made out of wood. Wish I could throw it. Wish u showed more throws and distance but still interesting.

  • @jonathanessick9958
    @jonathanessick9958 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet workbench. You should do a video on it.

  • @siefker88
    @siefker88 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video.

  • @kevinb2145
    @kevinb2145 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    What weight did they end up at?

    • @doktarr
      @doktarr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Yes, please, tell us the weight.

    • @jodyswoodworking5477
      @jodyswoodworking5477  5 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      The cheery disc is 197 grams.

    • @doktarr
      @doktarr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@jodyswoodworking5477 nice and hefty! I bet you could get a pretty good flight if you put full power into it. I'd probably just hang it on the wall though; so pretty.

    • @markhumphrey8894
      @markhumphrey8894 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      shave off more wood and bring it to 180g or 175 and see how it flies. Would be more accurate with what most of us throw.
      Imagine a balsa 130 wt. .Make sure your down wind with that one.
      For toughness use Lignum Vitae. The old wooden bowling ball material. Probably would level a forest with it. LoL
      Thanks for making this video.

    • @doktarr
      @doktarr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@markhumphrey8894 For something as thin as a disc, the grain of the wood is at least as important as the hardness. You might not be able to dent some hardwoods but if you made a disc out of them they'd be liable to split.

  • @deetsmuny
    @deetsmuny 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dude, this was great

  • @marclindow
    @marclindow 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool. I was just wondering if anybody had done this. You should try Elm. The interlocking grain would make is more durable than other species.

  • @Commish2009
    @Commish2009 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve done this! Lol then broke it. A few years back a company was making a set of wooden disc. Driver, mid and even a putter? I think they’d make great trophies.

  • @justsomenerd8925
    @justsomenerd8925 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just got back from my local course, DeLa, and this popped up in my feed. Also, to a vet, you have a funny name.

  • @dmt3339
    @dmt3339 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those would make some cool trophies.

  • @BlutigeTranen
    @BlutigeTranen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funnily enough I just had 3 discs made at a local woodshop as trophies for a little workplace tourney we run every year!

  • @Villomitron
    @Villomitron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My friend made me 2 wooden discs around 10 years ago, a Innova Wraith and a Roc made to spec with similar weights. They fly awesome, but I will never throw them again as I don't want to damage them

  • @DiscGolfHunter
    @DiscGolfHunter 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    These would make great trophies.

  • @johnr3936
    @johnr3936 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That thing is stable too, looks like you can push it way further!

  • @VillPom
    @VillPom 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Should make these as trophies for tournaments or collectors items from certain tournaments

    • @TheDanitus
      @TheDanitus 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      My thought as well, just attach golden plaque on it and put it on a stand.

  • @ry746
    @ry746 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I too am curious as to how many grams it weighs.
    Also I think using different woods laminated together would make a wooden disc perform better. Use the heaviest densest wood at the area the rim is thickest and the lightest (bass maybe?) for the flight plate. And maybe a wood in between the two. I understand this would be fragile but it might stay in the air longer. Shoot for something under 175 g!

  • @tomthebrainiac
    @tomthebrainiac 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I expect you've already thought of this, but just to bring it up, since various woods have different densities, you can get almost any weight (within the usual disc weights of 140 to 175 g) by trying different types of wood, while still keeping the same form, thickness and dimensions. I'm guessing poplar might put you in the right weight range and has cool colors and wood grain patterns. The walnut one looks cool, but I'd not want to get hit by one of heavy ones if thrown hard ! I like the video !

  • @CardMe
    @CardMe 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    These would make great trophies

  • @jackpatrin8415
    @jackpatrin8415 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome project!
    Just a tip for doing your glue ups like that. If you sandwich a piece of news paper in the glue between the work piece and the scrap, it should separate cleaner and leave less work to clean it up

    • @SimonSomething
      @SimonSomething 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does it have to be a specific section of the newspaper or is sports fine?

  • @Rc-Adventurers
    @Rc-Adventurers 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really nice job. Really cool decoration as well. Probably already know this trick, but I’ll share it anyway. You can use an old piece of carpet pad under the item your sanding and it will hold it in place without clamping it.

    • @jodyswoodworking5477
      @jodyswoodworking5477  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      D. O'Hanlon thanks. I have not used that trick, but will have to give it a try.

    • @Rc-Adventurers
      @Rc-Adventurers 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jody's Woodworking
      Glad to share. Yeah cut a few pieces different sizes. Between the friction, multiple kinds of rubber in the pad and downward pressure from the sander makes it “stick”. After awhile vacuum off the dust and you’re good to go again. Have you ever thought about making and selling the wooden discs?

  • @sobakathehusky
    @sobakathehusky 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need to see more, neeeed to.

  • @travisn2it
    @travisn2it 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How much does it weigh?

  • @stir_stick
    @stir_stick 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew there had to be a way to make this sport as dangerous to watch as original golf!
    Well done, thanks for posting!

  • @HappoApina
    @HappoApina 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wood is such a beautiful material! I'm happy that they flew and that you didn't do all that work for nothing. Now lets just hope they won't break the first time you hit the rim of a basket : D

  • @BobsWoodStuff
    @BobsWoodStuff 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool project Jody. As a woodworker and disc golfer, this was right up my alley.
    However, based on the title, I was hoping to see more flying than 4 seconds of throws at the end of the video.

  • @kombujimmy60
    @kombujimmy60 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please film a full round with the wooden disc!

  • @lindenwadel8827
    @lindenwadel8827 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    To make it easier to get that waste block off, glue a piece of copy paper in between the waste block and blank. It makes a weaker glue joint. Works very well for me. Happy turning!

  • @patavalttia
    @patavalttia 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much does it weight? What was the best (wood)material to use? How does it compare to a plastic disk? Did it break after 100 shots?

  • @cathaoirc6958
    @cathaoirc6958 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Disc is a question I’ve always wanted the answer to
    ....Get it

  • @hazadus2u
    @hazadus2u 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should beat in nice!!👌

  • @vapor9k122
    @vapor9k122 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Will it float in an OB pond? Haha! Amazing craftsmanship! A sick engraving or brand would make a great trophy disc!

    • @squirrelbong
      @squirrelbong 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I bet it wood!

    • @hurfdurfy8167
      @hurfdurfy8167 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@squirrelbong Take my like and never make that pun again.

  • @DavidValley1981
    @DavidValley1981 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video man... These world certainly be great awards for tournaments. There's so many ways you could customize them to make them unique. Have you ever seen the technique where people use electricity to burn tree-like patterns in the wood? That would look amazing on a disc with some colored apoxy or something. You could probably start your own business doing something like that. Thanks for posting this though!

  • @Zachshelpandtips
    @Zachshelpandtips 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ultimate utility disc!

  • @aaronbart87
    @aaronbart87 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    How heavy are they? It would be awesome to see more throws.

  • @subspaceanomaly
    @subspaceanomaly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I made a wooden clone of a discraft ultrastar, using plywood. The unequal weight distribution in the wood with knots etc made it fly too understable, at least that's why I think that happened. Good for practicing throws as unless you time it well flowing with the disc you might break your fingers. I use it as a bowl as using it as a frisbee wasn't really worth the bother

  • @RevGreenbud
    @RevGreenbud 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder if you lamented different woods of different weights if you could predict a hook? Like maple and western red cider as your rim or vice versa.

  • @yamasultani8481
    @yamasultani8481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Needs more shots of it flying

  • @cverch1678
    @cverch1678 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I make wooden minis by hand. Never have used a lathe but I'd sure like to. Mine usually take about a month to complete one. So much scraping and sanding.

    • @jschaeff23
      @jschaeff23 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Charlie Vercher how do you make them?

  • @leafhatonthetrail1038
    @leafhatonthetrail1038 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I get one of these in a mid-range!?

  • @ImMora1
    @ImMora1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man you need to play a round on those!

  • @MrChmchugh
    @MrChmchugh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Flywood discs have been around for a few years at least.

    • @mikaelr3875
      @mikaelr3875 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pretty sure they went out of business a few years ago.

  • @stvnmjones
    @stvnmjones 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    But what was the final weight in grams?

  • @chriss8206
    @chriss8206 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love to give that as a trophy fo my league. Let me know if I can purchase a couple.

  • @allenpowlus3893
    @allenpowlus3893 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much too buy one

  • @jcassady
    @jcassady 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very cool. You should get someone who throws really far to test it out next to a pdga legal driver.

    • @dionarlyn
      @dionarlyn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I volunteer!

    • @jcassady
      @jcassady 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Couldn't ask for a better one! Good show at Farragut man.

  • @lintelle2382
    @lintelle2382 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    they taught us in junior high woodshop to glue a piece of paper between the part and the face plate wood. One quick blow with a mallet separated them cleanly. all you had to do was sand off the (half) piece of paper on the part and your were good to go.

  • @ethan07allen
    @ethan07allen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it a destroyer

  • @kyleparker8494
    @kyleparker8494 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What would you give them for flight numbers?

    • @CB-rv2lj
      @CB-rv2lj 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      from his throw I would gauge maybe a 9-11 speed judging on rim width, glide 1-3, turn 0, fade 1-2. Id love to see someone like Drew Gibson rip on it.

  • @aargomemnon
    @aargomemnon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We need more revue of its flight

  • @powersurge9029
    @powersurge9029 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What did the wood disc weight?

  • @kromawuck1548
    @kromawuck1548 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what kind of machine did you use?

  • @Dontslaythybroski
    @Dontslaythybroski 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have thrown one! and yes they fly with a lot less glide than a normal driver

  • @grendelum
    @grendelum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did you ever weigh the disc? It’d be interesting (and difficult turning) to get one in the ~150g (+/-20g) range of the discs we use...

  • @HumanistJohn
    @HumanistJohn 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome! If only the PDGA approved non-plastic discs. :-D

    • @ramonescamilla803
      @ramonescamilla803 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel like wooden discs could be approved in developing countries where they might not have access to standard discs. Create jobs locally and help grow the sport

  • @Breyfogle126
    @Breyfogle126 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn't know Mcbeth was into woodworking!

  • @WillACarpenter
    @WillACarpenter 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Thumbs up to the cool woodworking video. But why is the only throw covered up by your next video buttons and why is it that the only throw is in the last seconds where those buttons are when the whole video is about how they throw? Good content with bad title exacerbated by the very ending of the video being completely unsatisfying

    • @Christopher-Lenz
      @Christopher-Lenz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Completely agree

    • @frisbeephil
      @frisbeephil 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was going to write the same thing. Poor representation.

  • @jordanbazak1362
    @jordanbazak1362 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is awesome! What driver was it based off of? Did it end up having similar flight characteristics?

    • @JarHeadX18
      @JarHeadX18 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Blizzard Boss. You can see the David Wiggins signature on the disc in the beginning.