@@barnyard_fab if the thinks that’s bad he should stop I just spend 6k on autotuner then another 5-10k on winols and swiftec tuning for the yearly license 😂
Hp tuners you paying for quality and ease of use. There's FREE software out there you can get, but it can be like reading the matrix.. even if theres free editor software available to make things easier for your platform (LS), won't be as user friendly.
I know right whole lotta bullshit for a money grab worse then gaming and all we trying to do is have fun for without Breaking our pockets but nah they do things like this 👎
So I had a interface that failed and sending it back to HP tuners and I bought a new interface plugged it into my ECM/laptop and I want to write to that ECM but I cannot do that because it has license to that interface the question I have is how do I remove the license from those ECM so I can write to those ecms with a new interface
The only advantage I can think of does not exist.....ability to transfer credits. I appreciate the attempt to put some pretty lipstick on the desire to maximize profits but it the system is annoying.
Love HPtuners but would be nice for maybe some downloadables on how to tune! The tuning school is expensive and doesn’t help! I would be interested in a HPtuners classes online or download the classes!
Hey man, this is a goddamned conjob, a mafia shakedown. These criminals are feeding off the COMMUNIST system of 'control of the means of production and means of distribution' that infiltrators to America foisted on society through the LAW MAKERS and JUDGES. Their COST ACCOUNTANTS and ENGINEERS have nit-picked the whole system into bits and pieces that everyone has to pay for ONE-PIECE-AT-A-TIME. Don't be fooled by this evil scheme. it's designed to enrich the few at the expense of the general population.
HP Tuners has bricked my GM P01 PCM - (absolutely no comms now - not detected) so when I get a new ECM I will need 2 more credits? As will be a different serial number?
My vehicle requires two credits. So once I purchase the MPIV2+ and two credits, is there a limit to how many tunes or changes I upload to the ECU? Each uploaded tune or change doesn't cost an additional credit correct?
would there be any licensing problems if someone else tuned my vehicle with hp tuners in the past....but now i'm over paying someone else to do it and want to buy the dongle ,set up an account and tune it myself?
Let's say my MPVI3 dies and it is outside of the warranty period. Would the credits that I purchased be transferrable to that new device or would I need to purchase additional credits?
Just to clarify...... I have an '04 Yukon 5.3L I'm wanting to do an E-fan swap. My understanding is that would take 2 credits. If I want to add a cam afterwards on this same vehicle, will that be an additional 2 credits for the tune? And likewise after that a turbo, 2 more credits? Or, does the initial credits/licensing cover any modifications and tuning I want to make to the ECU on this same vehicle? I'm under the impression I'm going with the MPVIP2+ and Suite software. Thanks.
I have a older mpvi pro. I purchased it when you guys where only doing gen 3 stuff back back in the day. If I needed a new mpvi2+ would I need to buy a new setup or could I buy the mpvi2+ dongle?
I don't understand what it means when I click on the "i" next to the credits needed on the vehicle page. It says "unlimited year/model universal credits" and has a number next to it, typically a 6 or a 12. What is this trying to tell me?
Hey there! Unlimited year/model credits is a one-time license that allows users to tune as many of those specific vehicles as they want. For example, if you tune a lot of 2011-2016 Silverado 6.6 Duramax (Diesel) (LML) trucks, you can purchase an unlimited license for (6) credits and tune as many of those trucks as you want, indefinitely. You can tune 1, 5, 10, or 1000 if you want for only a one-time license of (6) credits. I f you're an individual trying to tune your 2016 Silverado 6.6L, you can just purchase a single vehicle license for (2) credits and tune that one truck as many times as you want. Hope this helps!
I see why they've worked so hard to hide the real pricing on the site. So the ''buy credits for $49.99 button'' on the site is really to buy a ''single'' credit. At that rate I'd just take it to a shop and let them do it for 1/3rd the price. It's not worth it😂😂😂 or really more like 1/10th the price if you consider the $300+ interface and a laptop. Even better yet throw a carb on it and say F/O😂😂
Better yet, buy a kit for $4k and do the whole thing yourself whenever you want. It's criminals like this that have ruined America. It's called MONOPOLY CAPITALISM, and has ruined FREE ENTERPRISE CAPITALISM.
Can you post a video where I can load the car software processed by the user in hptuner in .bin format? because there is no option tune your file or tune original files.
I have HP Tuners on 2004 Dodge Cummins. LoveD it! ... Until I had a problem with it randomly rolling in max timing intended for high boost at low/no boost and low rpm, making the truck inoperable... And then HP wouldn't help me figure out how their program was corrupting my ecm. I found the only correlation was that Scanner was recording 1.63 in Transient/Steady state, and my problems were happening 5-15 minutes after operation began, not the second or two during the transition from 'transient' to 'steady' state... And my problems would be constant at high elevation, until I returned the truck back to stock. No help from HP. My truck is okay around town, but I cannot go out of town with it, because the ecm will corrupt and shut me down. So much potential, and on my truck, as well as a friend's '05 Dodge Cummins, it renders the truck useless.
@@HSKFabrications udc doesn't work... something with conflict with Chrysler's updates and reading fuel return. It went into limp mode every time I drove after about 50k miles. It would never recover drivability. I have figured out HP, though... It is changing tables without prompting. If I keep the tables all the same, and just rely on barometer adjustments, I don't have any issues anymore. It's just frustrating that HP doesn't care enough about their product to fix it, and they have the mentality of superiority that an end user can't have an understanding greater than theirs about their own product, therefore the end user cannot be correct... they blamed me for all the problems, without ever showing how it 'really works'... now that I have bandaged the problem, I have full function, and no longer have the issue of rarely hitting steady state tables that many have noticed.
my questions is , i have bought 4 credits that i had used on the same year/generation 99-07 silverados if i buy 2 more credits will that give me the option for the Unlimited Year/Model GM for 99-07 silverado? or will i have to buy all 6 credits at one time?
Is it tied to a laptop? I have an old Windows 7 laptop. Will it work on that? If not, I would have to use my son's laptop until I could buy a new one. Would I be able to transfer tune files and the tuning suite in that case?
So if I understand correctly, once I license my 2021 chrysler 300 3.6l touring L, I should be able to tune ANY chrysler 300? Or is it locked to the year?
HPtuners doesnt sell the 'tune' . you can Tune it yourself from their software. Other people are making tunes & selling tUnes & hpTuners hardware to load them.
The Credit system isn't like a cell phone. It's like anything else that is made over complicated. The question mark next to the credits have no context and what it means. It's almost like who ever developed this system on credits just wanted to confuse the living crap out of people. I sent an email.
If I buy a license for the Dodge Challenger 5.7, will it be used for me to write on all Dodge Challenger 5.7? Or will it only be useful for me to write on a single Dodge Challenger 5.7? Do I pay per vin or per car model?
Would be a better idea to have us purchase warranty credits or something like that were we don’t get screwed out of a warranty. Not exactly sure how to explain what I’m thinking but I’m sure someone will get the idea.
When I buy a product I expect that I can use the product and all it's features. Licensing scams like this are just... irredeemable. We need more opensource solutions to automotive maintenance and support other then proprietary junk. Free and Opensource is the solution we need. Not paid proprietary junk like this that limit what a DIYer can do at home on their own accord.
2019 ctsv. I have a full exhaust catless sitting because the whole situation is confusing to me. Not sure i trust myself even data logging for a street tune lol
My son had a friend tune his truck and now we have aMPVI3 and it tell us unlicensed vehicle are we doing something wrong or is it because it on his buddies Mpvi2
Do i need unlimited credits for 2017 Ford Focus 2.0 flex SE hatch, if i want to flash an after market TCM for a DPS6 transmission that I purchased, or do i need the dealer to flash it first?
Thanks for your question! What the other reply said is correct, once the credits are on your device you are good to go in most instances. Select newer ECM/PCMs will require an internet connection for read/write. We do not currently have a definitive list of which exact controllers requires internet but we will work with the team to add that information to our site!
so, if I setup all needed items for my truck... lets say 750 out the door... credits, software and hardware are in hand. the Credits are only good for writing to the ECM? once used I need more? not impressed with having to keep paying for something I purchased... I don't want to 'rent' permission. you say tune indefinitely, but once used, they are gone.
I agree with the statement BUT he did say if you buy "universal credits" for whatever vehicle you choose, you can tune as many of those vehicles as you want. And say you bought a 09 G8 GT - bought the credits you CAN retune that very specific vehicle indefinitely. Just not a different 09 G8 GT. I want to be clear, this credits thing is absolute bull shit, just like everything in our market right now its like a fucking subscription model and its trash.
Maybe I am thinking outside the box but you pay thousands of dollars for your vehicles, then pay for equipment and software downloads. Then you realize that every single vehicle you own will cost you 100-400 dollars to get the license to tune your own vehicles. I called and priced having my vehicles dyno tuned and its around the same price. Seems like the price outweighs the benefits. how are the shops making money on tunes. what kind of discounts are they getting. seems like they would sell more product if they were reasonable. Licenses do not have overhead costs to or shipping since it is NOT a physical product. I guess that is why so many people just order tunes and only have to transfer them.
did you ever locate one of their devices, i only ask because i just ordered one from the website and it didn't say anything about them being back ordered?
Answered my questions. This kinda stuff used to be free after you paid for the product.
so i give you 300€ and you still want more so i can program my own car?
welcome to tuning. it aint cheap. never has been never will be.
@@barnyard_fab if the thinks that’s bad he should stop I just spend 6k on autotuner then another 5-10k on winols and swiftec tuning for the yearly license 😂
@@KYLE666H winols is really good at burning holes in wallets
Hp tuners you paying for quality and ease of use. There's FREE software out there you can get, but it can be like reading the matrix.. even if theres free editor software available to make things easier for your platform (LS), won't be as user friendly.
I know right whole lotta bullshit for a money grab worse then gaming and all we trying to do is have fun for without Breaking our pockets but nah they do things like this 👎
So I had a interface that failed and sending it back to HP tuners and I bought a new interface plugged it into my ECM/laptop and I want to write to that ECM but I cannot do that because it has license to that interface the question I have is how do I remove the license from those ECM so I can write to those ecms with a new interface
This video certainly answered a few questions I had. Thanks!
The only advantage I can think of does not exist.....ability to transfer credits.
I appreciate the attempt to put some pretty lipstick on the desire to maximize profits but it the system is annoying.
We currently do not have our interface upgrade program at this time, this will be available Dec 1, 2022.
Love HPtuners but would be nice for maybe some downloadables on how to tune! The tuning school is expensive and doesn’t help! I would be interested in a HPtuners classes online or download the classes!
Check out some of the live stream training courses that we conducted on our TH-cam channel!
Hey man, this is a goddamned conjob, a mafia shakedown. These criminals are feeding off the COMMUNIST system of 'control of the means of production and means of distribution' that infiltrators to America foisted on society through the LAW MAKERS and JUDGES. Their COST ACCOUNTANTS and ENGINEERS have nit-picked the whole system into bits and pieces that everyone has to pay for ONE-PIECE-AT-A-TIME. Don't be fooled by this evil scheme. it's designed to enrich the few at the expense of the general population.
Any fix for all the ecms you guys are bricking on the cummins? Lots of people losing thousands of dollars 💸
They're bricking them because they're trynna rip off efilive tunes that are encrypted.
So for any additional vehicle I may want to tune with my MPVI2, I'll have to purchase credits for that vehicles, correct ?
yes
I miss obd1 the software itself could read and write the pcm. Just needed a basic cable.
but how do we make more moneyyyyy
I sure its a good product but your prices are way to high !
HP Tuners has bricked my GM P01 PCM - (absolutely no comms now - not detected) so when I get a new ECM I will need 2 more credits? As will be a different serial number?
My vehicle requires two credits. So once I purchase the MPIV2+ and two credits, is there a limit to how many tunes or changes I upload to the ECU? Each uploaded tune or change doesn't cost an additional credit correct?
im also wondering this hopefully we get an answer soon
Did you get the answer?
@@BALJITSINGH-ez4nk I did not. Probably have to call them. I'm not sure if I'm going this route so I haven't been concerned about it.
once youve purchased credits you have the full rights to tune your ecu over and over
@@barnyard_fab Thank you
would there be any licensing problems if someone else tuned my vehicle with hp tuners in the past....but now i'm over paying someone else to do it and want to buy the dongle ,set up an account and tune it myself?
Let's say my MPVI3 dies and it is outside of the warranty period. Would the credits that I purchased be transferrable to that new device or would I need to purchase additional credits?
I would also like to know this. that's a huge hit if i gotta buy a new MPVI3 and relicense every PCM I've unlocked
@@austinwyman427 its suspect they havent answered this?
Just to clarify...... I have an '04 Yukon 5.3L I'm wanting to do an E-fan swap. My understanding is that would take 2 credits.
If I want to add a cam afterwards on this same vehicle, will that be an additional 2 credits for the tune? And likewise after that a turbo, 2 more credits?
Or, does the initial credits/licensing cover any modifications and tuning I want to make to the ECU on this same vehicle? I'm under the impression I'm going with the MPVIP2+ and Suite software. Thanks.
Do you still have to get the ecu unlocked?
Buy pur proprietary hardware and then buy credits. Exactly why vcds is so dead now
I have a older mpvi pro. I purchased it when you guys where only doing gen 3 stuff back back in the day. If I needed a new mpvi2+ would I need to buy a new setup or could I buy the mpvi2+ dongle?
Just know, when you own your vehicle outright. You don't really own it lol.
I don't understand what it means when I click on the "i" next to the credits needed on the vehicle page. It says "unlimited year/model universal credits" and has a number next to it, typically a 6 or a 12. What is this trying to tell me?
Hey there! Unlimited year/model credits is a one-time license that allows users to tune as many of those specific vehicles as they want. For example, if you tune a lot of 2011-2016 Silverado 6.6 Duramax (Diesel) (LML) trucks, you can purchase an unlimited license for (6) credits and tune as many of those trucks as you want, indefinitely. You can tune 1, 5, 10, or 1000 if you want for only a one-time license of (6) credits. I
f you're an individual trying to tune your 2016 Silverado 6.6L, you can just purchase a single vehicle license for (2) credits and tune that one truck as many times as you want.
Hope this helps!
I see why they've worked so hard to hide the real pricing on the site. So the ''buy credits for $49.99 button'' on the site is really to buy a ''single'' credit. At that rate I'd just take it to a shop and let them do it for 1/3rd the price. It's not worth it😂😂😂 or really more like 1/10th the price if you consider the $300+ interface and a laptop. Even better yet throw a carb on it and say F/O😂😂
Better yet, buy a kit for $4k and do the whole thing yourself whenever you want. It's criminals like this that have ruined America. It's called MONOPOLY CAPITALISM, and has ruined FREE ENTERPRISE CAPITALISM.
Sound like a brokie
@@HSKFabricationsbrokie because he could get the same result for cheaper?
@@nick.100 I can assure you having a shop do it wouldn't be cheaper. Unless he's going to a hack shop.
@@HSKFabrications I’m pretty there are decent places that will do a tune for less than $500
Can you post a video where I can load the car software processed by the user in hptuner in .bin format? because there is no option tune your file or tune original files.
I have HP Tuners on 2004 Dodge Cummins. LoveD it! ... Until I had a problem with it randomly rolling in max timing intended for high boost at low/no boost and low rpm, making the truck inoperable... And then HP wouldn't help me figure out how their program was corrupting my ecm. I found the only correlation was that Scanner was recording 1.63 in Transient/Steady state, and my problems were happening 5-15 minutes after operation began, not the second or two during the transition from 'transient' to 'steady' state... And my problems would be constant at high elevation, until I returned the truck back to stock. No help from HP. My truck is okay around town, but I cannot go out of town with it, because the ecm will corrupt and shut me down.
So much potential, and on my truck, as well as a friend's '05 Dodge Cummins, it renders the truck useless.
Mm3 with warped tuning or udc pro is best for dodge.
@@HSKFabrications udc doesn't work... something with conflict with Chrysler's updates and reading fuel return. It went into limp mode every time I drove after about 50k miles. It would never recover drivability.
I have figured out HP, though... It is changing tables without prompting. If I keep the tables all the same, and just rely on barometer adjustments, I don't have any issues anymore. It's just frustrating that HP doesn't care enough about their product to fix it, and they have the mentality of superiority that an end user can't have an understanding greater than theirs about their own product, therefore the end user cannot be correct... they blamed me for all the problems, without ever showing how it 'really works'... now that I have bandaged the problem, I have full function, and no longer have the issue of rarely hitting steady state tables that many have noticed.
so is it a one time pay can tune your own car many time u like
Correct, there is no limit!
my questions is , i have bought 4 credits that i had used on the same year/generation 99-07 silverados if i buy 2 more credits will that give me the option for the Unlimited Year/Model GM for 99-07 silverado? or will i have to buy all 6 credits at one time?
I have the same question.
@@jbrannon7 They obviously arent too motivated to answer questions on their own TH-cam? disappointing!
Is it tied to a laptop? I have an old Windows 7 laptop. Will it work on that? If not, I would have to use my son's laptop until I could buy a new one. Would I be able to transfer tune files and the tuning suite in that case?
Yeah no,im definitely not buying hp tuners
This is some apple levels of proprietary bullshit
Need to buy a package for my 13 E63? How many credits needed? Thanks
Please don't buy this scam
What?? was this helpful? NO!
So if I understand correctly, once I license my 2021 chrysler 300 3.6l touring L, I should be able to tune ANY chrysler 300? Or is it locked to the year?
8:02 I believe is your answer.
No you can only tune your car. It's locked to your VIN
Its more money for every laptop you use? That's dumb.
you can change laptops and still tune
a new ecm can be programmed to show the same vin but the serial number will change
Do I need to purchase credits for each Tuner I decide to use? Meaning, If I wanna use 3 siff tuners so 3 diff credit purchase?
Thats what im trying to figure out to lol
Would love to know what the difference is between the two tuners ie MPVI2 and MPVI2+
Primarily a new Bluetooth Low Energy 5.0 chip to allow for iOS support, a new M8 connector, faster USB-C connection and new RGB LED status light.
So you have to buy the unit then buy credits then buy a tune? How is cost effective
HPtuners doesnt sell the 'tune' . you can Tune it yourself from their software. Other people are making tunes & selling tUnes & hpTuners hardware to load them.
@@phillkenyon4378 okay
The Credit system isn't like a cell phone. It's like anything else that is made over complicated. The question mark next to the credits have no context and what it means. It's almost like who ever developed this system on credits just wanted to confuse the living crap out of people. I sent an email.
If I buy a license for the Dodge Challenger 5.7, will it be used for me to write on all Dodge Challenger 5.7? Or will it only be useful for me to write on a single Dodge Challenger 5.7? Do I pay per vin or per car model?
Would be a better idea to have us purchase warranty credits or something like that were we don’t get screwed out of a warranty.
Not exactly sure how to explain what I’m thinking but I’m sure someone will get the idea.
So i bought credits for nothing? So i thought the whole point of buying the credits was so i can re map my car...
When I buy a product I expect that I can use the product and all it's features. Licensing scams like this are just... irredeemable. We need more opensource solutions to automotive maintenance and support other then proprietary junk. Free and Opensource is the solution we need. Not paid proprietary junk like this that limit what a DIYer can do at home on their own accord.
This is apple 🍏 style product. You pay them and still control everything 😂
2019 ctsv. I have a full exhaust catless sitting because the whole situation is confusing to me. Not sure i trust myself even data logging for a street tune lol
Do I have to still buy credits to flash my truck? I bought my tune and hp tuner from a tuner shop that put the tune on the interface already?
My son had a friend tune his truck and now we have aMPVI3 and it tell us unlicensed vehicle are we doing something wrong or is it because it on his buddies Mpvi2
I dont have internet where i live , wonder if i can drive to my phone service area and hook it up threw the phone ??? Help
Have a 2 for 1 with new purchases. I know some tuners have deep pockets but some of us are not that rich.
2016 escalde connected and read Ivón is gray will not let me read vehicle , do I also need credits just to read the car ?
Do i need unlimited credits for 2017 Ford Focus 2.0 flex SE hatch, if i want to flash an after market TCM for a DPS6 transmission that I purchased, or do i need the dealer to flash it first?
Once you sync your credits to your MPVI2 using the internet, is an internet connection required to use the credits/write?
Nope, not to apply the credits. Although there are some newer ECM types that requiere internet connection to read/write
Thanks for your question! What the other reply said is correct, once the credits are on your device you are good to go in most instances. Select newer ECM/PCMs will require an internet connection for read/write. We do not currently have a definitive list of which exact controllers requires internet but we will work with the team to add that information to our site!
I don't see bmw does anyone know any other software that work with BMW cars
so, if I setup all needed items for my truck... lets say 750 out the door... credits, software and hardware are in hand. the Credits are only good for writing to the ECM? once used I need more?
not impressed with having to keep paying for something I purchased... I don't want to 'rent' permission.
you say tune indefinitely, but once used, they are gone.
I agree with the statement BUT he did say if you buy "universal credits" for whatever vehicle you choose, you can tune as many of those vehicles as you want.
And say you bought a 09 G8 GT - bought the credits you CAN retune that very specific vehicle indefinitely. Just not a different 09 G8 GT.
I want to be clear, this credits thing is absolute bull shit, just like everything in our market right now its like a fucking subscription model and its trash.
I couldn’t find 2015 ram promaster 2500 van with 3.0 ecodiesel in it, only jeep and ram 1500 truck, will the tuner work on the ecodiesel van?
Whats the difference between the MVPI2+ and the rtd? Can i still use the rtd to tune multiple vehicles?
Maybe I am thinking outside the box but you pay thousands of dollars for your vehicles, then pay for equipment and software downloads. Then you realize that every single vehicle you own will cost you 100-400 dollars to get the license to tune your own vehicles. I called and priced having my vehicles dyno tuned and its around the same price. Seems like the price outweighs the benefits. how are the shops making money on tunes. what kind of discounts are they getting. seems like they would sell more product if they were reasonable. Licenses do not have overhead costs to or shipping since it is NOT a physical product. I guess that is why so many people just order tunes and only have to transfer them.
Why it's out of stock e90?
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When will you have more tuning devices in stock? I've looked everywhere
did you ever locate one of their devices, i only ask because i just ordered one from the website and it didn't say anything about them being back ordered?
Fantastic explanation Eddie!!
Thank you! We hope it was helpful!
Can you download hp tuners on mac ?
Unfortunately no. VCM Suite is only available on Windows.
@@HPTuners what about a Lenovo?
@@Bigdickondarocks Lenovo is a computer brand. Windows/Mac are the Operating System (OS) that the computer uses to run
is the mpv12+ the newest cause I'm seeing mpvi3?
mpvi3 is the newest as of now this video is over a year old