only because i actually watched the video and it answered my questions...and people still seem confused 1.1 single hp tuner module can do multiple vehicles but you use credits to unlock them 2.once unlocked WITH THE SAME MODULE is used you can retune and access tunes and files anytime and anywhere on any computer/laptop 3.if someone has already tuned with hp tuners, unless you have their module you will have to buy a module/credits to unlock the vehicle to your module or someone elses module if it is getting retuned, which is why people just purchase the module because they will be able to make modifications as well as anyone else with the software
This actually helped me a lot, my vehicle has been tuned on hp tuners by previous owner but i do not have the module, i was hoping id be able to do a little double dipping but i guess not!
Okay so I too watched the Video, but what he didnt go in depth about, and you didnt mention. My car says 2 on that list, I have a PCM and a TCM, that I want to Tune. NOW What? Is that 4 credits? 2 credits? WHAT?
ok, so I get that once you buy credits to license the vehicle, you can tune that same vehicle an unlimited amount of times for free after licensing it one time, but Ive also heard about needing to license the file that you flash onto the ECU, so like after you buy the credits to license the vehicle do you have to buy more credits to license the file that gets flashed onto the ECU?
Some day someone is going to write a GUI interface for something like HP Tuners that is much simpler. Click and drag sliders and less get out the calculator to type in values. That would revolutionize the industry.
One of the best scams there is. I just wish I'd thought of it lol. It's like in app purchases on a phone. The tuner itself isn't cheap. Then require the owner that bought said tuner to have to pay to use their own device that they just bought. Then depending on which car you've chosen, you can easily spend the same amount on credits that you've spent on the tuner.
I mean it's kind of universal for tools like that, matter of fact it's better... It's not just a simple tuner, you can do A LOT of shit with the MVPI 2 and vcm suite, Very useful for a shop and most useful shop tools actually require monthly or yearly subscriptions in the hundreds to thousands of dollars range, some even costing as much as 100 dollars for 3 days, and that's just what i've heard of, i'm sure it gets worse... So for most standard vehicles costing only 2-4 credits it's very good in comparison, My l5p cost a lot more credits but most don't cost that much.
@@necarson I have a KESS V2 which I bought for $65 and guess what, I can read/edit/write to an unlimited number of vehicles and there is no extra cost.
Yeah I was really debating grabbing one of these but I don't understand the logic behind it unless you run an actual shop. I could buy an Off-the-Shelf ECU/Flash for cheaper than I would spend on the Credits to do it myself
I’m thinking about buying hp for my ls1 camaro. If I buy the kit and the two credits to tune it, I can then tune my car unlimited times with no additional credits, correct ?
Once you buy the dongle and buy the credits. Why not charge you another credit for only one car. Makes sense. I guess you have to pay to play. But this doesn't get gas into the tank. Its a toll booth. I really hope this is worth the money when I start using mine. I am feeling a little like a fool for spending so much money and not having anything to show for it yet. Maybe I will update this after I try out the MPVI3 I just got.
So once i buy the hp tuner program for my vehicle i spend the money for 2 credits if that what my vehicle calls for the 1st credit would be to license the ecm the 2nd will be to write to the ecm and make changes correct and after that unlimited amounts of tunes to that specific vehicle with no extra spending on credits? Pls respond
Licensing is a one time deal per MPVI or MPVI2. The only time you will have to relicense a vehicle is if you change interfaces, change the ECM, or update the ECM OS with a factory tool.
You can transfer everything to another computer, correct? What if say, a hard drive dies, can you download everything on another computer, connect to the internet, and it see that you had everything licensed?
If I got this straight,I can buy "X" amount of credits for a vehicle and tune it,but if I don't like the tune on that specific vehicle, I can change the tune without buying more credits?
Vehicle licensing is a one time deal per MPVI or MPVI2. If you tune one vehicle with your device and decide to later add on parts or change the tune for that vehicle, you can change it as many times as needed with the same device. The only time more credits are required for a licensed vehicle is if the ECM has been exchanged, OS changes, or you use a different HP Tuners device.
I'm bit worried my daily is a 1963 225 slant Chrysler I've hunted high and low can't find my obd I feel bit guilty when it gets a tune I don't pay credits 😂
I bought mine, should be here tomorrow. My understanding is, you pay to unlock the pcm. The dongle follows and stays with that pcm for its life. If my pcm dies, I have to pay for more credits. Not fair to us but I see their point. We could put someone else pcm in our vehicle, tune it free and they are out of money. Cool thing is, we get a great quality scantool free with the system. Mpvi 2 is what I bought. If my pcm dies, I'll be mad lmao.
If you are purchasing your own MPVI2 to do the work you will need to purchase the credits to license your vehicle. The license is a one time deal per MPVI or MPVI2. Once you have licensed you vehicle with your own device you can modify the tune as many times as you want.
@@TheTuningSchool This is great info. I was thinking every time I need to adjust or revise my tune I'd always have to buy credits to load the re modified tune..you should add this information in this video.
One thing that you forgot to mention or that nobody mentioned on the questions I have a shop that we geared my truck and they use HP tuners to change the gear ratio now my truck needs a new throttle body and it needs to be reprogrammed Ford is going to reflash my computer does this erase the tune
So if I tune my 02 Silverado I spend 2 credits. If later on I install a cam I can re tune at no extra cost. Then later if I swap my trans I can tune it again for no cost. Then if I go turbo I can tune it no cost. Correct or no?
Credits purchased for a specific vehicle allow you to fully tune that vehicle. As long ad you bought the appropriate credit amount, you can change and tune forever on that vehicle
I have 2017 charger rt cammed dyno tuned on 93 straight pipe no cats I just added high flow cats threw a code p1eoa any ideas if that a tunning issue ??
I’m lost I’m needing help so if you buy 2 credits for your car and you tune your vehicle but you add something else later on do you have to buy more credits to tune it again or does the credits stay
You can get all Gen III V8 trucks, including the Silverado, for 30 credits upfront. Or you can pay 6 credits per single year model, which in some cases the credit cost may vary depending on the number of Silverados tuned per year model.
So…30 credits x $47 = $1410. That’s a pretty big investment. What happens if the Module decides to fail? Most electronic modules are prone to fail or break. What happens then?
Question about the interface. Had an old interface that stopped working in the two ecms that are in my boat are licensed under that interface that is now working I bought a new interface from HP just came today and I want to write a tune to these two ecms from this new interface. Can I take the license off of the old interface and apply it to the new interface so I can write to these ecms.
The only way to transfer licenses is to send it to HP Tuners. They will transfer licenses on an upgrade. You will have to contact them if you had further questions. Thanks.
@@TheTuningSchool okay thanks for replying what I end up doing is buying two more unlicensed ecms at the junkyard they are so cheap they're only paid $30 a piece for them.
I noticed at 5:18 time stamp on the video you open the read portion to get vehicle info. In the box it shows the engine size correctly but just under that it shows 4.3 v6. Is that normal because my truck shows the same thing. My truck is an 04 Silverado la 4.8 cab. I've written a tune for my truck but I. Not promptes to license it and it won't install as well. Any ideas?
Question. I looked at the listed vehicles on HP tuner website and did not see my vehicle (1996 Impala Gen 3 6.0 LS). I am a little confused on how many credits will I need. Also am I buying credits for the type of car I have or the type of computer I have. I have an LS pcm
Hello and thanks for reaching out. We sell our credits by vehicle brand --> thetuningschool.com/collections/credits Give us a call at (727) 264-8875 so we can answer any other questions you may have thoroughly!
No…you simply open your old licensed file that you used to write to the ECM during your first tune. Make sure you save the file and keep it safe (don’t lose or delete it.) It has the license encoded within it. You simply open it up again, make the updates to it, and then perform another “write” to the ECM. If you try to use a different tune file other than your original one, it’ll ask you to purchase credits again.
How to install into an ECM in car? Does ECM need to be taken out of car each time? So if I am driving on a 93 pump program and want to top off half my tank with e85 and run my 50/50 tune, do I have to pull the ECM and connect to laptop while filling with gas? Or can I plug laptop into that OBD2 looking universal credit box?
I am planning on buying the MPVI2. I am doing 2 LS style engine swaps (5.3L), in a 1964 Impala, and a 1995 Jeep Wrangler. For now I just need to disable VATS and rear O2 sensors, EGR, etc.. I here back and forth that the MPVI2 comes with 2 credits, is that true? If not do I just need to buy the MPVI2 and then 2 credits for each ECU? Is the software a free download for the unit, or is it also additional?
So, if I buy 6 universal credits to tune my Toyota Tundra, after I tune it, I will not be able to tune my wife's Tundra and I should buy another 6 credits to do this?
So i ve got an individual question: if i license my car to first read and second flash the read file, is it possible to send the stock file to my tuner for editting (he will have to license the file of course on his end for editting), will I need to purchase 2 more credits when I flash the edited file back to my cars ECU? What if my tuner protects his work? Will i be able to flash it due to my car is already licensed and the file already has been licensed during first download? Sorry for my bad english.. TIA
Your tuner would have paid for an unlimited Vin license and would write the tune file with his module. You would need to pay for enough credits to write his tune file with your module.
No. You can scan, download, edit, even change gear ratio/tire size. And the software is a free download on their website. When you upload you will need to license each vehicle. It's a one time license for that vehicle.
@@TheTuningSchool Uploading is part of using. I was not looking for something that would require paying for every vehicle program modification. The initial cost of the unit and requirement to purchase a licence for each vehicle makes this something for professional mechanics that charge customers, not someone that's just curious to know what their car could do if the speed limiter was disabled. Sure the company will make small amounts of money back from the software but far less people will be willing to buy the units if they know how it works in advance.
Thats what i want to know too he said 2 credit to write to a vehicle so does that mean 1 credit to license pcm and the other is to make the change to vats and if thats true do we need to buy a credit to every change we do cause if so then thats gunna be stupid expensive
Yes, VATS removal is a tuning step and you must license your PCM. Later you can do actual tuning, modifications etc for no additional cost on that S/N PCM
Can someone answer this question. Can I buy just a tuner alone without buying an app or credits or programmer and use alone with just plugging in with vehicle. Or with every tuner i need to purchase more tunes on top of the expensive tuner itself. I just want for my one truck, for performance and eliminate speed limiter. This all seems like alot, and when i look at buying tuners they give it a one wrench on install and 15 minute to setup a tune I would like. Just trying to be able to tune my truck myself without mods, credits, apps and so on. Please help me to understand as was a great mechanic but there was very limited on the electrical side. Can I do this myself, or do I have to keep buying more after the $700 tuner
You will need at least 2 credits to unlock your ECM. There are other variables that may require more. They are however a one time purchase for that specific VIN.
If you are speaking of entire makes/models unlimited, it doesn't exist. If you are speaking of Gen III GM trucks unlimited it is 30 credits. You will see the option when you go to license the vehicle.
TheTuningSchool I did this for my camaro , unlocking was 4 credits , then after that I sent the base tune to my tuner, did I mess up Doing that ? Should of I sent the base tune first then waited for my tuner to send it back then use the 4 credits ? Or does it not Matter In which order I do it in ?
Doberman Racing haha thank you for the reply , was worried about me doing it in the wrong order , but tuner sent me my tune and all was well , now I have a bigger problem , cylinder 4 having no compression 😂😂
I have a Chevy Sonic and a GMC Sierra, I'm thinking about getting a HP kit to disable the DOD/AFM on the sierra which would be a 1 time thing, however... I switch between winter tires and summer tires on both vehicles so will I need a credit everytime I change the tire size a.k.a. "write to" the vehicles?
They aren't stored in the vehicle, but they are licensed to the computer in that vehicle. If my understanding is correct, at the point you sell that ECU, the credits are useless
What's the time stamp for the part you're talking about? Different vehicles cost different credit amounts. Then you can purchase just one license specific to your Vin or you can purchase an unlimited license. Unless you're a tuning shop you won't need to buy the more expensive licenses.
If you could elaborate I’d really appreciate it. I have a cam and springs only Silverado. I’ll be swapping the tranny then getting a turbo. I’ll need to tune it several times. How I understand it that’s 2 credits.
I like the product and its capabilities BUT I wouldn't buy it solely because of the "credit system". If I'm spending hundreds of dollars on a product, it should do as it says without forking over more money. That's like buying a fishing rod and having to pay the manufacturer a fee every time you want to switch lures. Nope.
A better analogy would be you pay for your fishing rod and then have to pay for fishing line but once you buy the line you have unlimited fishing line for that pole. If you want to put your fishing line on another pole you would need to pay for another unlimited fishing line spool for the new line.
LooooooooooooLL :) They prefer to hide it as credit! Also why complicated system for taking my money each time I open the software! just take it one time!
@@RAED8282 It's only one time per vehicle, if you are tuning enough vehicles that it's too expensive to pay per vehicle you can get the unlimited license. Compared to some other tuning software it's cheap. SCT wants $1000+ to tune 1 vehicle.
![[MV] A leap of faith...ความเชื่อใจครั้งสุดท้าย (From "Petrichor the series")](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/U1piZH2CNXA/mqdefault.jpg)
Lets play a game of how many times can they charge you for one product?
This is a lot less than typical programmers like VCT/Diablo/etc, so it's not too bad, plus its extremely user-configurable vs what others offer.
Just get the hacked program. You can tune whatever you want for free. Just don't ever use it while wifi or internet is plugged in.
TexasGTO where do I get that from
@@trevoncowen9198 yeah where
@@TexasGTO how are you suppose to use it without WiFi or internet?
only because i actually watched the video and it answered my questions...and people still seem confused
1.1 single hp tuner module can do multiple vehicles but you use credits to unlock them
2.once unlocked WITH THE SAME MODULE is used you can retune and access tunes and files anytime and anywhere on any computer/laptop
3.if someone has already tuned with hp tuners, unless you have their module you will have to buy a module/credits to unlock the vehicle to your module or someone elses module if it is getting retuned, which is why people just purchase the module because they will be able to make modifications as well as anyone else with the software
Hey, thanks! And thank you for watching!
This actually helped me a lot, my vehicle has been tuned on hp tuners by previous owner but i do not have the module, i was hoping id be able to do a little double dipping but i guess not!
Okay so I too watched the Video, but what he didnt go in depth about, and you didnt mention.
My car says 2 on that list, I have a PCM and a TCM, that I want to Tune. NOW What? Is that 4 credits? 2 credits? WHAT?
ok, so I get that once you buy credits to license the vehicle, you can tune that same vehicle an unlimited amount of times for free after licensing it one time, but Ive also heard about needing to license the file that you flash onto the ECU, so like after you buy the credits to license the vehicle do you have to buy more credits to license the file that gets flashed onto the ECU?
Some day someone is going to write a GUI interface for something like HP Tuners that is much simpler. Click and drag sliders and less get out the calculator to type in values. That would revolutionize the industry.
@2:56 Can you explain the reason for the 12 and 130 credits options you did not discuss?
One of the best scams there is. I just wish I'd thought of it lol. It's like in app purchases on a phone. The tuner itself isn't cheap. Then require the owner that bought said tuner to have to pay to use their own device that they just bought. Then depending on which car you've chosen, you can easily spend the same amount on credits that you've spent on the tuner.
You really expect to be able to tune unlimited vehicles for $300?
I mean it's kind of universal for tools like that, matter of fact it's better... It's not just a simple tuner, you can do A LOT of shit with the MVPI 2 and vcm suite, Very useful for a shop and most useful shop tools actually require monthly or yearly subscriptions in the hundreds to thousands of dollars range, some even costing as much as 100 dollars for 3 days, and that's just what i've heard of, i'm sure it gets worse... So for most standard vehicles costing only 2-4 credits it's very good in comparison, My l5p cost a lot more credits but most don't cost that much.
@@necarson I have a KESS V2 which I bought for $65 and guess what, I can read/edit/write to an unlimited number of vehicles and there is no extra cost.
@@jakelogan7542 can you disable DOD AFM with it?
Yeah I was really debating grabbing one of these but I don't understand the logic behind it unless you run an actual shop. I could buy an Off-the-Shelf ECU/Flash for cheaper than I would spend on the Credits to do it myself
I’m thinking about buying hp for my ls1 camaro. If I buy the kit and the two credits to tune it, I can then tune my car unlimited times with no additional credits, correct ?
Following
Correct. That pcm in your car will be unlocked too HPTuners forever.
@@KyleNelson279 Thanks!
@@KyleNelson279 W. Was looking for this
Once you buy the dongle and buy the credits. Why not charge you another credit for only one car. Makes sense. I guess you have to pay to play. But this doesn't get gas into the tank. Its a toll booth. I really hope this is worth the money when I start using mine. I am feeling a little like a fool for spending so much money and not having anything to show for it yet. Maybe I will update this after I try out the MPVI3 I just got.
Is there any chance yall can start doing Mopar videos. Bc yeah have great info but Mopar tables are totally different from Chevy
that would be nice, show us mopar people some love after you take our money.
If you have enough credits and you connect to a vehicle to tune and to use the credits, do you also need an internet connection to use the credits?
So once i buy the hp tuner program for my vehicle i spend the money for 2 credits if that what my vehicle calls for the 1st credit would be to license the ecm the 2nd will be to write to the ecm and make changes correct and after that unlimited amounts of tunes to that specific vehicle with no extra spending on credits? Pls respond
So after you license the vehicle, do you have to license it again?
Licensing is a one time deal per MPVI or MPVI2. The only time you will have to relicense a vehicle is if you change interfaces, change the ECM, or update the ECM OS with a factory tool.
When you buy a new MPVI2 that comes with two credits, is it ready to be used inced your vehicle is licensed?
Does buying an Unlimited Year/Model licence for 99-07 Chevy Silverado also cover 99-07 GMC Sierra?
If a tuner was to tune with hpt will I have to license the pcm again if I were to get hpt myself
You can transfer everything to another computer, correct? What if say, a hard drive dies, can you download everything on another computer, connect to the internet, and it see that you had everything licensed?
Is this two credit(s) per vehicles? or do I need credits everytime I retune my car
That's what I'm wondering.
Yeah I'm wondering the same
same
If I got this straight,I can buy "X" amount of credits for a vehicle and tune it,but if I don't like the tune on that specific vehicle, I can change the tune without buying more credits?
Vehicle licensing is a one time deal per MPVI or MPVI2. If you tune one vehicle with your device and decide to later add on parts or change the tune for that vehicle, you can change it as many times as needed with the same device. The only time more credits are required for a licensed vehicle is if the ECM has been exchanged, OS changes, or you use a different HP Tuners device.
I use a ngauge to store tunes datalog and load files. how do I register credits from hp tuners if I don't have a hpv11 unit?
So that means we need each MPVI for each vehicle we tune or scanned.
I'm bit worried my daily is a 1963 225 slant Chrysler I've hunted high and low can't find my obd I feel bit guilty when it gets a tune I don't pay credits 😂
Would like to buy to add to my 14 mustang gt. How many credits would I need to buy
I bought mine, should be here tomorrow. My understanding is, you pay to unlock the pcm. The dongle follows and stays with that pcm for its life. If my pcm dies, I have to pay for more credits. Not fair to us but I see their point. We could put someone else pcm in our vehicle, tune it free and they are out of money. Cool thing is, we get a great quality scantool free with the system. Mpvi 2 is what I bought. If my pcm dies, I'll be mad lmao.
if a shop tuned my engine, and I want to start do my own engine tuning, do I need to buy credits(s) for the same vehicle/engine?
If you are purchasing your own MPVI2 to do the work you will need to purchase the credits to license your vehicle. The license is a one time deal per MPVI or MPVI2. Once you have licensed you vehicle with your own device you can modify the tune as many times as you want.
@@TheTuningSchool This is great info. I was thinking every time I need to adjust or revise my tune I'd always have to buy credits to load the re modified tune..you should add this information in this video.
Ferris Bueller explains HP Tuners.
No relation (Brett actually comes to class early) ;)
Beuler!!!!!!!!
One thing that you forgot to mention or that nobody mentioned on the questions I have a shop that we geared my truck and they use HP tuners to change the gear ratio now my truck needs a new throttle body and it needs to be reprogrammed Ford is going to reflash my computer does this erase the tune
So if I am tuning a GM vehicle with the MPVI2 then I can use the "Universal Credits" or do I have to buy the GM specific credits?
With the MPVI2 you only purchase Universal credits. Make specific credits only work for the older MPVI interfaces. Thank you for watching!
@@TheTuningSchool ok cool, that's what I thought. Thanks for the clarification.
does a tune void the factory warranty
So if I tune my 02 Silverado I spend 2 credits. If later on I install a cam I can re tune at no extra cost. Then later if I swap my trans I can tune it again for no cost. Then if I go turbo I can tune it no cost.
Correct or no?
@Mike McSunas is it unlocked for anyone to tune it or only to the tuner that unlocked it? Thanks in advance
Credits purchased for a specific vehicle allow you to fully tune that vehicle. As long ad you bought the appropriate credit amount, you can change and tune forever on that vehicle
I have 2017 charger rt cammed dyno tuned on 93 straight pipe no cats I just added high flow cats threw a code p1eoa any ideas if that a tunning issue ??
I’m lost I’m needing help so if you buy 2 credits for your car and you tune your vehicle but you add something else later on do you have to buy more credits to tune it again or does the credits stay
Nope. Once you unlock that ECM, you don't have to purchase more credits.
Trying to get unlimited for 99 -07 Silverados. How many credits would I need
You can get all Gen III V8 trucks, including the Silverado, for 30 credits upfront. Or you can pay 6 credits per single year model, which in some cases the credit cost may vary depending on the number of Silverados tuned per year model.
So…30 credits x $47 = $1410. That’s a pretty big investment. What happens if the Module decides to fail? Most electronic modules are prone to fail or break. What happens then?
Question about the interface. Had an old interface that stopped working in the two ecms that are in my boat are licensed under that interface that is now working I bought a new interface from HP just came today and I want to write a tune to these two ecms from this new interface. Can I take the license off of the old interface and apply it to the new interface so I can write to these ecms.
The only way to transfer licenses is to send it to HP Tuners. They will transfer licenses on an upgrade. You will have to contact them if you had further questions. Thanks.
@@TheTuningSchool okay thanks for replying what I end up doing is buying two more unlicensed ecms at the junkyard they are so cheap they're only paid $30 a piece for them.
I noticed at 5:18 time stamp on the video you open the read portion to get vehicle info. In the box it shows the engine size correctly but just under that it shows 4.3 v6. Is that normal because my truck shows the same thing. My truck is an 04 Silverado la 4.8 cab. I've written a tune for my truck but I. Not promptes to license it and it won't install as well. Any ideas?
Question. I looked at the listed vehicles on HP tuner website and did not see my vehicle (1996 Impala Gen 3 6.0 LS). I am a little confused on how many credits will I need. Also am I buying credits for the type of car I have or the type of computer I have. I have an LS pcm
Hello and thanks for reaching out. We sell our credits by vehicle brand --> thetuningschool.com/collections/credits
Give us a call at (727) 264-8875 so we can answer any other questions you may have thoroughly!
does it can tune and Remap for Toyota 1KD-FTV Engine in Hilux?
Do you have to buy credits every time you want to tune the same vehicle?
yes.. unless you buy an unlocked version of hpt that i currently sell.
Once I buy the credit for my truck to license it do I have to buy more credits the next time I want to change anything or is it just for my truck?
No…you simply open your old licensed file that you used to write to the ECM during your first tune. Make sure you save the file and keep it safe (don’t lose or delete it.) It has the license encoded within it. You simply open it up again, make the updates to it, and then perform another “write” to the ECM. If you try to use a different tune file other than your original one, it’ll ask you to purchase credits again.
Do I need to buy credits every time I change the tune on the same vehicle ??
Nope! Once you license a vehicle/ECM you do not have to re-license it.
How to install into an ECM in car? Does ECM need to be taken out of car each time? So if I am driving on a 93 pump program and want to top off half my tank with e85 and run my 50/50 tune, do I have to pull the ECM and connect to laptop while filling with gas? Or can I plug laptop into that OBD2 looking universal credit box?
Both styles plug into the OBD2 port and have a cable to your laptop
I am planning on buying the MPVI2. I am doing 2 LS style engine swaps (5.3L), in a 1964 Impala, and a 1995 Jeep Wrangler. For now I just need to disable VATS and rear O2 sensors, EGR, etc.. I here back and forth that the MPVI2 comes with 2 credits, is that true? If not do I just need to buy the MPVI2 and then 2 credits for each ECU? Is the software a free download for the unit, or is it also additional?
Yes you need to buy individual 2 credits seperately from Mp
So, if I buy 6 universal credits to tune my Toyota Tundra, after I tune it, I will not be able to tune my wife's Tundra and I should buy another 6 credits to do this?
Yes. That is correct.
So i ve got an individual question: if i license my car to first read and second flash the read file, is it possible to send the stock file to my tuner for editting (he will have to license the file of course on his end for editting), will I need to purchase 2 more credits when I flash the edited file back to my cars ECU? What if my tuner protects his work? Will i be able to flash it due to my car is already licensed and the file already has been licensed during first download? Sorry for my bad english.. TIA
Your tuner would have paid for an unlimited Vin license and would write the tune file with his module. You would need to pay for enough credits to write his tune file with your module.
If a vehicle as already tuned by someone else using g
Hp tuners do I need to license it even tho someone has already done it
Yes you will, unless the person that originally flashed the computer lends you their device.
So I buy the unit, then I have to pay to use it?
No. You can scan, download, edit, even change gear ratio/tire size. And the software is a free download on their website. When you upload you will need to license each vehicle. It's a one time license for that vehicle.
@@TheTuningSchool Uploading is part of using. I was not looking for something that would require paying for every vehicle program modification. The initial cost of the unit and requirement to purchase a licence for each vehicle makes this something for professional mechanics that charge customers, not someone that's just curious to know what their car could do if the speed limiter was disabled. Sure the company will make small amounts of money back from the software but far less people will be willing to buy the units if they know how it works in advance.
Does vats removal cost credits?
Thats what i want to know too he said 2 credit to write to a vehicle so does that mean 1 credit to license pcm and the other is to make the change to vats and if thats true do we need to buy a credit to every change we do cause if so then thats gunna be stupid expensive
Yes, VATS removal is a tuning step and you must license your PCM. Later you can do actual tuning, modifications etc for no additional cost on that S/N PCM
@@209chevymon no you only need to pay to license your module once then you can make unlimited amount of changes to that Vin.
Can someone answer this question. Can I buy just a tuner alone without buying an app or credits or programmer and use alone with just plugging in with vehicle. Or with every tuner i need to purchase more tunes on top of the expensive tuner itself. I just want for my one truck, for performance and eliminate speed limiter. This all seems like alot, and when i look at buying tuners they give it a one wrench on install and 15 minute to setup a tune I would like. Just trying to be able to tune my truck myself without mods, credits, apps and so on. Please help me to understand as was a great mechanic but there was very limited on the electrical side. Can I do this myself, or do I have to keep buying more after the $700 tuner
You will need at least 2 credits to unlock your ECM. There are other variables that may require more. They are however a one time purchase for that specific VIN.
upgrading OS required credits?
OS upgrades have not required credits, since the software moved off version 2.24.
Hello do I need to buy credits to just datalog or scan without tuning?
You can scan the vehicle using an HP Tuners MPVI or MPVI2 unit and the HP tuners VCM Scanner software without licensing the vehicle.
I just bought two credits but it’s not showing me that
If you have an MPVI2 or MPVI2+ ensure you are connected to the internet and resync. Thanks!
How does unlimited work?
If you are speaking of entire makes/models unlimited, it doesn't exist. If you are speaking of Gen III GM trucks unlimited it is 30 credits. You will see the option when you go to license the vehicle.
I really want to learn to tune but god dang these prices are bull
Give us a call today! Maybe we can help.
If I spend credits to tune. Do I have to spend credits again to retune?
No. As long as you use same interface and same car computer you will have it unlocked for life of car computer.
TheTuningSchool I did this for my camaro , unlocking was 4 credits , then after that I sent the base tune to my tuner, did I mess up
Doing that ? Should of I sent the base tune first then waited for my tuner to send it back then use the 4 credits ? Or does it not
Matter In which order I do it in ?
@@akidim13 doesn't matter the order. You're just paying to license your module to write to your vehicle.
Doberman Racing haha thank you for the reply , was worried about me doing it in the wrong order , but tuner sent me my tune and all was well , now I have a bigger problem , cylinder 4 having no compression 😂😂
I have a Chevy Sonic and a GMC Sierra, I'm thinking about getting a HP kit to disable the DOD/AFM on the sierra which would be a 1 time thing, however... I switch between winter tires and summer tires on both vehicles so will I need a credit everytime I change the tire size a.k.a. "write to" the vehicles?
They have chips or pre-programed tuners that do what you need and way easier to use. Superchip and bullydog are just two of the many that do this.
No you only need to pay for the license once per vehicle. Then you can retune that vehicle an unlimited amount of times.
can you remove credits from a vehicle. lets say you are going to sell the vehicle and don't need the tune anymore on that vehicle.
the credits are not stored in your vehicle.
They aren't stored in the vehicle, but they are licensed to the computer in that vehicle. If my understanding is correct, at the point you sell that ECU, the credits are useless
This is why Holley EFI is better 🍺
😂 why are you on this video then? 😈
Holley EFI tunes one vehicle.
Yeah, think I'm gonna check out the self tuning efi's on the market or something else. $50 Dollared to death is not a trap I want to be in.
HP Tuners on average is 2 credits or $100 to unlock one ECM. You never have to pay to unlock it again as it's a one-time fee.
@@TheTuningSchool even if my ECM goes out or gets bricked?
IIt shows 2 credits, but next to it shows 6. Completely skipped over that in video...who reason I watched captain obvious.
What's the time stamp for the part you're talking about?
Different vehicles cost different credit amounts. Then you can purchase just one license specific to your Vin or you can purchase an unlimited license. Unless you're a tuning shop you won't need to buy the more expensive licenses.
You guys always forget about having to buy credits for the OS options (2bar, 3bar, etc.)
If you could elaborate I’d really appreciate it. I have a cam and springs only Silverado. I’ll be swapping the tranny then getting a turbo. I’ll need to tune it several times. How I understand it that’s 2 credits.
this is not the same company as hp tuners!/?
Let's talk about hp tuners ripoff points, terrible way of doing it, pcm's don't last forever inevitably
I like the product and its capabilities BUT I wouldn't buy it solely because of the "credit system". If I'm spending hundreds of dollars on a product, it should do as it says without forking over more money. That's like buying a fishing rod and having to pay the manufacturer a fee every time you want to switch lures. Nope.
A better analogy would be you pay for your fishing rod and then have to pay for fishing line but once you buy the line you have unlimited fishing line for that pole.
If you want to put your fishing line on another pole you would need to pay for another unlimited fishing line spool for the new line.
what is n/a mean?
naturally aspirated
Why don't they just call it Dollars? Thats right it's a ponsie scam!
LooooooooooooLL :)
They prefer to hide it as credit! Also why complicated system for taking my money each time I open the software! just take it one time!
@@RAED8282 It's only one time per vehicle, if you are tuning enough vehicles that it's too expensive to pay per vehicle you can get the unlimited license.
Compared to some other tuning software it's cheap. SCT wants $1000+ to tune 1 vehicle.