In the olden days, back when dinosaurs were thinking about becoming disposable lighters and I was one of the three sales guys at Sequential (Circuits) the main difference was "edge". The Prophet always had Smitty's velvety sound, the OB had the overdriven filter. The other main difference at that time was the Prophet had 128 points of knob resolution and the OB 64. Apples and oranges. Some artists have referred to the OB as "noble sounding", which I always took to mean that big, buzzy fanfare in and around the Jump thing with more or less brass "quack". Grab a fistful and your balls seemed to get bigger. Like the Prophet, though, modulation sources and destinations were limited by modern standards. I'm biased, of course, but I always felt the Prophet was the more articulate of the two, capable of warmer sounds. Example - more "Moog-ish" if you will. Had it not been, all our old Tomita demos would never have worked as well as they did. And that depth of character was the difference. Like the OB was the scruffy kid in the block party band and that was its gig, but you could dress up a Prophet and take it anywhere from 80s ballad slop to Tahoe lounge lizard. And then, like Dave said, what everyone wanted was real instruments in a portable box, not synthesizers. Hopefully this time around people are buying synths for the right reasons, not to simply replace 400 pound electroacoustic devices or fake horn sections but for synthesizer music. Remember Suzanne Ciani's very wise comment - The worst thing that ever happened to electronic music was putting keyboards on synthesizers.
@@mikemorrisonmusic same here got the Oberheim first and love it. But a Mellotron and Juno is what I really need to get next and an ARP 2600. Then maybe a Prophet 10 keyboard and Waldorf M.
The desktop models will run you about $7k for both. Have a Prophet 10 desktop and preordered the OB-X8 desktop. So happy they made the OB-X8 desktop module. This is endgame for me.
Awesome comparison, and hilarious too. The Prophet has that smooth “Prophet” sound..beautiful. The OB has that fat, lush Oberheim sound. This is comparing apples and oranges. They’re both amazing, and very different. There are a lot of things that you guys didn’t get to explore…more things that are unique to them. Both incredible instruments….the best one is the one that fits your needs.obviously, having both is best, albeit financially daunting. I loved this “playoff” between Jack and the Falcon…you guys are a crackup. PLEASE DO MORE LIKE THIS.
…btw, back in the ‘80’s, I had a Prophet-5, and my guitar player had a OB-X 6 voice. We covered so much ground between us…and hear ing them both together was pure magic !
@@TheChrisVella definitely Madness. To see two obvious synth-heads with a true appreciation for “the sound”, playing off each other, and explaining their thinking…classic
I want both but only had funds to get one and bought the Oberheim as I wanted that lush wall of stereo sound. Will save up for the P10 and Minimoog and ARP 2600 then I can do John Carpenter and Vangelis type stuff. Juno 60 rules as well as the Virus that can do it all in one box.
@@GuitarsAndSynths You get that lush sound with the P10/5 if you do some stereo panned recordings. Sounds phenomenal. (Prophet 5/10s really shine in a multitrack scenario)
That's exactly how I felt. OB-X8 has an amazing appeal on its own, but I feel like the Prophet 10 would sit better in a mix layered with other instruments. Really just wishing the Prophet 10 had an arpeggiator or sequencing capabilities.
Two completely different synth with different sound palettes. Combining both synths in a composition is where they will truly shine as they are complimenting each other in most wonderful ways.
As a Prophet owner I'm kinda biased towards it. I think Falcon could have picked or at least tweaked some better patches or maybe played with a bit more enthusiasm. Stranger Things soundtrack has got loads of Prophet-5 sounds, I've dialled up some on mine that just nail that vibe. But hey I also can't front on the OBX8, its got that lush stereo pan sound & 2-pole Oberheim filter sizzle that just makes you go wow. Both synths are cream of the crop. On looks alone though Prophet wins hands down, I don't know why they went for the dull grey and black OBX theme rather than the iconic black and blue lines from the OBXa/OB8.
I was lucky enough to have an OBXa, Prophet 5 Rev 3 and Jupiter 8 side by side in my studio. When the JP8 came in, the P5 was just surplus to requirements next to the Oberheim and the Jupiter. Somehow, I always wanted the P5 to be 'more' - I was always adding top end on the filter and a touch of LFO from the wheel to make the sound move. This comparison shows why for my tastes. The Oberheim every time for me, but it's always just personal taste and if I only had the P5 I would love it because it had some fabulous sounds - it was just up against the best of the best.
Funny I had the exact opposite reaction with the same set up. to me the Jupiter sound has such a specific sound to its filter that it because the piece used for addition. the OB is the pad and swell machine while the Prophet is always the root of it all.
@@Fluxwithit Yes, …. you know I totally get that …. It’s why I always tend to qualify my comments with the observation that it’s all subjective … mind you it’s interesting what you say about the root of it all. I don’t know if you’re thinking about it’s solid bottom end, but to put things in perspective, I still kept my Pro One for that clear unique bottom end sound, so I know what you mean. Love that sound, but the 5 note limit just always drove me mad too! Still, I’m not looking for a new 10 to replace it … definitely the other 2 for me 😊👍
@@DoctorJezz yeah this is all opinion of course. :) for me meaning the root of it all... I just find the prophet sounds big and holds down the center of the track. whether its bass or melody. the OB always had this movement about it. The Jupiter tends to have so much more a "liquid" squishy sound to it that makes it great for adding splashes of flavor. now my main set up is the P10 rev4 , jupiter 6 , Omega 8 , Hydrasynth and a system 8 ... all fun bits of color to add but the prophet 9:10 times is doing a more traditional analog pad sound (and I love using it for EP type sounds) where as the rest are adding flavor with a bit more character that stand out more in a mix.
@@Fluxwithit 👍 Yep - I do wonder what getting a new 10 might make me think about my old Rev 3 sometimes! Anyway it was great to hear from you - enjoyed your reflections on Prosynth network - all the best man 😊🙏
@@DoctorJezz every time I’ve used a rev 3 near a rev4 I’m pretty astonished at how close they get to each other. Very very close. The differences are there make me happy not sad which is pretty cool. You would think the rev 4 would kinda lose some of that mystical magic 😂 but I don’t feel like it does.
Having owned an OB-6, I’d go Prophet. Love the Oberheim filters and the sound of the OB-6 on its own but found it a bit too aggressive to be an all around synth. The Prophet is more tame but possibly more utilitarian. Wife versus girlfriend, husband versus boy toy, gin versus tequila. Pick your poison.
I have both of these synths and find them to be the opposite. The Prophet is more forward sounding and brash, while the OB-X8 is more lush and smooth. I do think the OB-X8 is capable of some really deep low end that the Prophet can’t quite achieve.
Pad: tie B-Movie Lead: Prophet Thunderous Bass: Oberheim Searing Lead: Oberheim Squidgy Neo-Soul: Prophet Wildcard: Oberheim? But the real winner was the sounds we made along the way.
Both are obviously beasts but I kept finding the Oberheim sounded like something I’d expect to hear on an old Star Trek episode, whereas the Prophet sounded like something I expect to hear on a record 🤷🏻♂️
Prophet 5 is one of the best looking synths of all time. Ever since seeing one on its side in a local shop in 1986 and reading about them in E&MM I've lusted after one.... thanks to the REV4 I was able to get one and expand it to 10 voices. I love the sound of the OBX8 and I would definitely have gotten one but I can't quite justify another analogue beast!
This was so much fun to watch and listen to, even with all the fist bumps and hand slaps. I like the sound of both. They are at the top level of the synth world. It was an excellent idea to choose presets based on applications & scenarios. I've not seen that done before. I think you missed a few opportunities to play them together as a duo.
It's so amazing to have these synths around again, all new and just amazing as their vintage counterparts. I wish i had a couple thousand bucks to spare though
Played both and ended up with the Oberheim. OB X8 has that raw, gritty sound and the Prophet is more smooth. Both great but needed more of a cutting tone.
Put the Prophet through some stereo effect so that difference diminishes and then it would give the Oberheim a run for its money! At least for some sounds, like the more mellow warm pads.
Prophet I think for me. Because of the interface (knob per function). I think there is probably a lot of overlap between these two and I reckon I could kind of eke out Oberheim-ish tones out of the Prophet push come to shove. Also two extra voices is a nice feature. The menu diving on the OB kind of puts me off. They should have reconsidered and modernized the interface but it's a great sounding poly as well. Answer is probably get both :). I mean, you wouldn't be sorry I'm sure. But the price for both is probably prohibitive for most and that's another plus for the P10. Can find them used for as low as $3400 USD.
What a nice Video. A barely know any other TH-camr, who’s spreading such a positiv feel-good-vibe in his videos like you do! Please keep it up. And concerning the oberheim vs prophet topic: what amazing Instruments - both! And to finalize with Stevie Wonders superstition: Nothing more to say! Greetings from Germany
The Prophet definitely sounds warmer, clearer, and punchier...It has that 70s mojo in spades. The Oberheim has awesome routing, FX, stereo, and mod options that the Prophet is lacking in, but imo the raw timbre and warmth award has to go to the Prophet
I’m fortunate to have both. I bought the originals when they came out. Sold them when sample based and rompers became the “trend” for cover band players. Running these through strymon effects is pure sonic bliss. Big sky, mobius, time line, and drive effects make these synths sound even more amazing. Great video. Thank you.
you can get the pro 800 from Behringer, sounds close to the prophet. And Behringer is shipping the Oberheim clone soon. So you can kinda have both, gor half the price of one
3:19 Jack, your mate Falcon is at a disadvantage. "What's the patch called?" "113." "Oh, mine's called 'Warm 80s pad.'"🤣😂😅👍 Need to tape over Jack's LCD display next time.😂😂😂
Nothing wrong with having both if you can afford. Both have pros and cons. OBX8 stereo panning vs P10 mono. P10 10 voices vs 8V OBX8. Both sound great, can't go wrong with either imo.
One thought I’m having rt now… you can tone down the oberheim to get it more mellow prophet like, you cannot tone up the prophet to get the OB sound. 🤔🤔🤔
Surprisingly good format, both sounded good. Maybe give yourselves longer than just one minute to find a good patch for the category, as in the edit that is speed through.
I liked the idea of how you organized this nice confrontation between these two titans. It wouldn't make much sense to have a too deep and serious confrontation. I think every enthusiast already has an idea about what he prefers. You can clearly feel the difference in personality between the two machines, but as far as I'm concerned I can't give a preference. Greetings from Italy.
10:00 Yeah. Just that has an early 1980s hit written around it. I can hear the other instruments. It's made for a hit song. Beautuful sound. So simple.🤗
To really get the best, you need both as they have different characters depends what you want, the oberheim is more airy panned out and brash. The prophet more constrained, clearer and smoother. In the originals the best of both worlds is a jupiter 8
i sold my SEM for £1700 a month ago - have to say , its not worth it ... but how amazing is that - bought for 1200 - and sold for more - not many synths do that
I generally preferred the Prophet in this test, which is weird because I’d keep my OB6 over the P6 if pushed! Maybe that means I should be cashing the P6 in for a P5/10! 😅
@@SpacehotelMusic Interesting to hear someone with a similar view. If you had were given an OB-X8 tomorrow would you sell the OB-6 or do you think it would still have a place?
They're both awesome. couldn't afford either but I think the Prophet might be easier to fit in a busy mix/song. It's defo smoother. If you can afford both get both!
2:09 At that moment, the Prophet wins. The look is just screaming "This is the synth." Never will be another like it. The design and form were just utterly brilliant. Though on that last discussion with Dave and Tom on the Oberheim channel, the OBX8 sound at the intro is the most beautiful sound I ever heard out of a synth.
If you pick your synths based on look, can't imagine the dirt you ended up with 😆 Seriously though, as far as quality of patches the Ob is clearly the winner
That was fun! I was expecting to go for the Prophet - I owned a 5 back in the day and let it go for peanuts sadly, it was a beautiful synth, but here I was more drawn the Oberheim - funny old world 🙂
I got the p5 a couple years ago. Needed to get a poly. At that point the ob was still rumour. Had they both been available I’d have chosen the ob. But The p5 is a really lovely synth. It’s a real instrument. It makes proper old fashioned analogue sounds. I’m scoring a film with it and it’s just great. It’s Nothing like the p6 or 08 or any of the other modern dsi synths which never sounded great to me. I might need an ob though. It’s clearly the other real deal.
Prophet is definitely the more "utilitarian" choice because that midrange presence and smooth filter allows it to really sit nicely in the mix without too much compression or EQing. But the Oberheim definitely has deeper sound design options with the different filter slopes and the state variable quality, and it just sounds MASSIVE in a way that the Prophet can't quite do. I think Oberheim excels at fat low end and the detuned leads are great but Prophet is better for mellower pads and is more well-rounded. Basically I think Prophet is "jack of all trades" and a great synth if you can only have one, and Oberheim is a "specialist" for specific sounds. This is why the best musicians in the world wanted both in the 80's, they are actually super complementary tone-wise
I called it a draw, but I'd take the Prophet... Unless you were giving them away in which case I'd take the Oberheim, sell it, buy the Prophet, and have a weekend in Bognor on the change.
I'm not sure whether it's down to whether Prophet sounds better than Oberheim or vice versa, but Prophet is more generic, middle of the road and Oberheim is instantly and only Oberheim. I've got things like rev 2, prologue, mfb synth Pro, Nymphes, JD-XA, Waldorf M and I don't feel that the Prophet would add a vastly different, instantly recognisable sonic pallete, but the Oberheim would. Nothing I've got can go anywhere near the distinctive Oberheim sound. Both are great but one is unique, I've heard a flipside argument that the Oberheim is more limited, more of an acquired taste and harder to sit nicely in the mix.
Delicious comparison! I want both on my rack above the Hydrasynth Deluxe and Korg SV-2 88. Was expecting more similarities, but one is a carpenter's toolboox, and the other that of an auto shop!
I can't pick really. The prophet is an awesome synth that plays with itself and others nicely. It's the best all rounder for me. The oberheim is brash, huge and really forward. The only answer is to have both. I'm hoping for an OBX8 module. Together they're magic.
1:24 Great stuff on the two shillings. Has to be a sterling silver one pre-1920.😊 Or the 50% silver ones pre-1947 were very handsome coins too. I thought you were going to use a Bitcoin or a Doge for a minute!😂
Super entertaining video, really appreciate yall! I lean toward the P10 for the warm, phatness. Love the OB, but I struggle to find space in my music for it's strengths.
First- more on screen time for Falcon and Jack together. They are engaging hosts for the channel. They both found good examples for these two synths. I give a slight edge to the Oberheim because I love the Dive Bomber Bass. Well done y'all!
Falcon was killing Jack up until round 4 then Jack came back. I was proposing putting Jack behind the camera and having Falcon only onscreen but it was even haha. Both monsters synths though. I picked up the pro 3 SE so I get both the OB filter and Prophet filter without selling my house! (plus mono > poly) :DD
In the olden days, back when dinosaurs were thinking about becoming disposable lighters and I was one of the three sales guys at Sequential (Circuits) the main difference was "edge". The Prophet always had Smitty's velvety sound, the OB had the overdriven filter. The other main difference at that time was the Prophet had 128 points of knob resolution and the OB 64. Apples and oranges. Some artists have referred to the OB as "noble sounding", which I always took to mean that big, buzzy fanfare in and around the Jump thing with more or less brass "quack". Grab a fistful and your balls seemed to get bigger. Like the Prophet, though, modulation sources and destinations were limited by modern standards. I'm biased, of course, but I always felt the Prophet was the more articulate of the two, capable of warmer sounds. Example - more "Moog-ish" if you will. Had it not been, all our old Tomita demos would never have worked as well as they did. And that depth of character was the difference. Like the OB was the scruffy kid in the block party band and that was its gig, but you could dress up a Prophet and take it anywhere from 80s ballad slop to Tahoe lounge lizard. And then, like Dave said, what everyone wanted was real instruments in a portable box, not synthesizers. Hopefully this time around people are buying synths for the right reasons, not to simply replace 400 pound electroacoustic devices or fake horn sections but for synthesizer music. Remember Suzanne Ciani's very wise comment - The worst thing that ever happened to electronic music was putting keyboards on synthesizers.
If I had 10 grand I’d get both
That’s what I plan on doing. I’ll save up for the next few years and get one at a time.
Truest statement ever told
@@mikemorrisonmusic same here got the Oberheim first and love it. But a Mellotron and Juno is what I really need to get next and an ARP 2600. Then maybe a Prophet 10 keyboard and Waldorf M.
I got both! Took two years to get ‘em but, I have ‘em! Those original Oberheim s are $12,000 to $19,000 on eBay so the OBerheim X8 is the way to go
The desktop models will run you about $7k for both. Have a Prophet 10 desktop and preordered the OB-X8 desktop. So happy they made the OB-X8 desktop module. This is endgame for me.
“Should you get a Prophet or an Oberheim?“
“YES!“
They both sounded really good actually. Both had good qualities.
Both sound superb, but for me the Oberheim sounds more interesting
Maybe so. I am so tied to the prophet. It just works for me. May have to get the 10 some day
Prophet 5 def sounds better out the box
They’re both great. Prophet fits into mixes better. Oberheim is great for sparser mixes where the synth can have more space.
The OB sounds more studio/ pro audio/ jazz musician to me. More old man.
Awesome comparison, and hilarious too. The Prophet has that smooth “Prophet” sound..beautiful. The OB has that fat, lush Oberheim sound. This is comparing apples and oranges. They’re both amazing, and very different. There are a lot of things that you guys didn’t get to explore…more things that are unique to them. Both incredible instruments….the best one is the one that fits your needs.obviously, having both is best, albeit financially daunting. I loved this “playoff” between Jack and the Falcon…you guys are a crackup. PLEASE DO MORE LIKE THIS.
…btw, back in the ‘80’s, I had a Prophet-5, and my guitar player had a OB-X 6 voice. We covered so much ground between us…and hear ing them both together was pure magic !
Madness! Glad you liked the video 😊 will defo have more stuff like this!
@@TheChrisVella definitely Madness. To see two obvious synth-heads with a true appreciation for “the sound”, playing off each other, and explaining their thinking…classic
I want both but only had funds to get one and bought the Oberheim as I wanted that lush wall of stereo sound. Will save up for the P10 and Minimoog and ARP 2600 then I can do John Carpenter and Vangelis type stuff. Juno 60 rules as well as the Virus that can do it all in one box.
@@GuitarsAndSynths You get that lush sound with the P10/5 if you do some stereo panned recordings. Sounds phenomenal. (Prophet 5/10s really shine in a multitrack scenario)
I feel that the Prophet 10 is more versatile, but the OB-X8 wins when it comes to those jaw dropping sounds.
That's exactly how I felt. OB-X8 has an amazing appeal on its own, but I feel like the Prophet 10 would sit better in a mix layered with other instruments. Really just wishing the Prophet 10 had an arpeggiator or sequencing capabilities.
@@mattslumwormreyes Then get a prophet 6 or a rev 2.
Two completely different synth with different sound palettes. Combining both synths in a composition is where they will truly shine as they are complimenting each other in most wonderful ways.
As a Prophet owner I'm kinda biased towards it. I think Falcon could have picked or at least tweaked some better patches or maybe played with a bit more enthusiasm. Stranger Things soundtrack has got loads of Prophet-5 sounds, I've dialled up some on mine that just nail that vibe. But hey I also can't front on the OBX8, its got that lush stereo pan sound & 2-pole Oberheim filter sizzle that just makes you go wow. Both synths are cream of the crop. On looks alone though Prophet wins hands down, I don't know why they went for the dull grey and black OBX theme rather than the iconic black and blue lines from the OBXa/OB8.
Both are absolutely stunning synths. I admire Dave Smith (R.I.P) and Tom Oberheim so much, for their great accomplishments.
Same here. Absolutely.
I was lucky enough to have an OBXa, Prophet 5 Rev 3 and Jupiter 8 side by side in my studio. When the JP8 came in, the P5 was just surplus to requirements next to the Oberheim and the Jupiter. Somehow, I always wanted the P5 to be 'more' - I was always adding top end on the filter and a touch of LFO from the wheel to make the sound move. This comparison shows why for my tastes. The Oberheim every time for me, but it's always just personal taste and if I only had the P5 I would love it because it had some fabulous sounds - it was just up against the best of the best.
Funny I had the exact opposite reaction with the same set up. to me the Jupiter sound has such a specific sound to its filter that it because the piece used for addition. the OB is the pad and swell machine while the Prophet is always the root of it all.
@@Fluxwithit Yes, …. you know I totally get that …. It’s why I always tend to qualify my comments with the observation that it’s all subjective … mind you it’s interesting what you say about the root of it all. I don’t know if you’re thinking about it’s solid bottom end, but to put things in perspective, I still kept my Pro One for that clear unique bottom end sound, so I know what you mean. Love that sound, but the 5 note limit just always drove me mad too! Still, I’m not looking for a new 10 to replace it … definitely the other 2 for me 😊👍
@@DoctorJezz yeah this is all opinion of course. :) for me meaning the root of it all... I just find the prophet sounds big and holds down the center of the track. whether its bass or melody. the OB always had this movement about it. The Jupiter tends to have so much more a "liquid" squishy sound to it that makes it great for adding splashes of flavor. now my main set up is the P10 rev4 , jupiter 6 , Omega 8 , Hydrasynth and a system 8 ... all fun bits of color to add but the prophet 9:10 times is doing a more traditional analog pad sound (and I love using it for EP type sounds) where as the rest are adding flavor with a bit more character that stand out more in a mix.
@@Fluxwithit 👍 Yep - I do wonder what getting a new 10 might make me think about my old Rev 3 sometimes! Anyway it was great to hear from you - enjoyed your reflections on Prosynth network - all the best man 😊🙏
@@DoctorJezz every time I’ve used a rev 3 near a rev4 I’m pretty astonished at how close they get to each other. Very very close. The differences are there make me happy not sad which is pretty cool. You would think the rev 4 would kinda lose some of that mystical magic 😂 but I don’t feel like it does.
They combine wonderfuly! I would first by a Prophet and after that the Oberheim.
Having owned an OB-6, I’d go Prophet. Love the Oberheim filters and the sound of the OB-6 on its own but found it a bit too aggressive to be an all around synth. The Prophet is more tame but possibly more utilitarian. Wife versus girlfriend, husband versus boy toy, gin versus tequila. Pick your poison.
Good analogy hahaha
I have both of these synths and find them to be the opposite. The Prophet is more forward sounding and brash, while the OB-X8 is more lush and smooth. I do think the OB-X8 is capable of some really deep low end that the Prophet can’t quite achieve.
The Oberheim has more of a lush heavenly soundscape to it.
drinking game, do a shot every time they fist bump.
Pad: tie
B-Movie Lead: Prophet
Thunderous Bass: Oberheim
Searing Lead: Oberheim
Squidgy Neo-Soul: Prophet
Wildcard: Oberheim?
But the real winner was the sounds we made along the way.
This video is going to skyrocket! Great job y'all! :D
Both are obviously beasts but I kept finding the Oberheim sounded like something I’d expect to hear on an old Star Trek episode, whereas the Prophet sounded like something I expect to hear on a record 🤷🏻♂️
Prophet 5 is one of the best looking synths of all time. Ever since seeing one on its side in a local shop in 1986 and reading about them in E&MM I've lusted after one.... thanks to the REV4 I was able to get one and expand it to 10 voices. I love the sound of the OBX8 and I would definitely have gotten one but I can't quite justify another analogue beast!
You should get both. A studio with more than one showpiece synth is a studio with more creative inspiration.
Or save your money, forget both and get a Polybrute!
Oberheim everyday.
A Prophet does sound awesome, very recognisable, and probably more flexible. But the Oberheim makes me want to play it.
My ideal synth would have the sound of the Oberheim with the look of the Prophet :)
Jesus, that Oberheim sounds absolutely gorgeous. If I happen to come across 5k, I know what I’m buying lol
Oberheim kicks ass!
Or a Behringer ?
WHY NOT BOTH.
Lets be honest, if you can afford one you can probably afford the other.
This was so much fun to watch and listen to, even with all the fist bumps and hand slaps. I like the sound of both. They are at the top level of the synth world. It was an excellent idea to choose presets based on applications & scenarios. I've not seen that done before. I think you missed a few opportunities to play them together as a duo.
It's so amazing to have these synths around again, all new and just amazing as their vintage counterparts. I wish i had a couple thousand bucks to spare though
Same
Couple thousand x5😂
I'd take these two over a Moog One 16
Played both and ended up with the Oberheim. OB X8 has that raw, gritty sound and the Prophet is more smooth. Both great but needed more of a cutting tone.
I have both it's a toss up. OBX8 is more like omnisphere has a little bit of everything. prophet has more raw synths
If forced to pick I'm going with the Prophet 10! ✌️
all day long more musical!!!
Same here... but I already own the Prophet 10 (and an OB-6).
@@SpacehotelMusic that's my dream combo
Put the Prophet through some stereo effect so that difference diminishes and then it would give the Oberheim a run for its money! At least for some sounds, like the more mellow warm pads.
Nice job on the shootout! I’d buy the Oberheim
Prophet I think for me. Because of the interface (knob per function). I think there is probably a lot of overlap between these two and I reckon I could kind of eke out Oberheim-ish tones out of the Prophet push come to shove. Also two extra voices is a nice feature. The menu diving on the OB kind of puts me off. They should have reconsidered and modernized the interface but it's a great sounding poly as well. Answer is probably get both :). I mean, you wouldn't be sorry I'm sure. But the price for both is probably prohibitive for most and that's another plus for the P10. Can find them used for as low as $3400 USD.
Instead of preset surfing, should have to start from an init patch and build the sound in a minute.
Prophet-10 an OB-X8 : we have together the complete range of analog vintage sound
Moog One : Hold my jack !
I'm on the fence between the two. I'm leaning OB, but $5000 is a lot of money.
It's settled. I'm going with the Oberheim. Just wanna save up a couple more paychecks.
@@AdamBorsetidid you in the end?
What a nice Video. A barely know any other TH-camr, who’s spreading such a positiv feel-good-vibe in his videos like you do! Please keep it up. And concerning the oberheim vs prophet topic: what amazing Instruments - both! And to finalize with Stevie Wonders superstition: Nothing more to say! Greetings from Germany
The Prophet definitely sounds warmer, clearer, and punchier...It has that 70s mojo in spades. The Oberheim has awesome routing, FX, stereo, and mod options that the Prophet is lacking in, but imo the raw timbre and warmth award has to go to the Prophet
I’m fortunate to have both. I bought the originals when they came out. Sold them when sample based and rompers became the “trend” for cover band players. Running these through strymon effects is pure sonic bliss. Big sky, mobius, time line, and drive effects make these synths sound even more amazing. Great video. Thank you.
you can get the pro 800 from Behringer, sounds close to the prophet. And Behringer is shipping the Oberheim clone soon. So you can kinda have both, gor half the price of one
Probably less than half which is super ❤
3:19 Jack, your mate Falcon is at a disadvantage.
"What's the patch called?"
"113."
"Oh, mine's called 'Warm 80s pad.'"🤣😂😅👍
Need to tape over Jack's LCD display next time.😂😂😂
Nothing wrong with having both if you can afford.
Both have pros and cons.
OBX8 stereo panning vs P10 mono.
P10 10 voices vs 8V OBX8.
Both sound great, can't go wrong with either imo.
Smashing shorts guys!
One thought I’m having rt now… you can tone down the oberheim to get it more mellow prophet like, you cannot tone up the prophet to get the OB sound. 🤔🤔🤔
Thx!
Prophet - and it's a surpise for myself because earlier I thought Oberheim (because the "classic" OB synths).
Voting for a The Captain meets the Maltese Falcon right here!
I go for the Oberheim - only I miss those Blue stripes
This design is an omage to the OB-X, the blue stripes didn't come until the OB-Xa. Maybe they will return on the OB-X8a?
@@francisseidel8014 design Crumar ??
Both sound amazing, love my P10, will definitely be adding the Obie
Great format! More of this please.
Surprisingly good format, both sounded good. Maybe give yourselves longer than just one minute to find a good patch for the category, as in the edit that is speed through.
I liked the idea of how you organized this nice confrontation between these two titans. It wouldn't make much sense to have a too deep and serious confrontation. I think every enthusiast already has an idea about what he prefers. You can clearly feel the difference in personality between the two machines, but as far as I'm concerned I can't give a preference. Greetings from Italy.
prophet for pop production… and ob for cinematic sounds
I think it really comes down to the moment. Ever look at a keyboard player from the late 70's early 80's? He had a bunch.
10:00 Yeah. Just that has an early 1980s hit written around it. I can hear the other instruments. It's made for a hit song. Beautuful sound. So simple.🤗
To really get the best, you need both as they have different characters depends what you want, the oberheim is more airy panned out and brash. The prophet more constrained, clearer and smoother. In the originals the best of both worlds is a jupiter 8
Hands down the Oberheim, f'ing brilliant machine!
i sold my SEM for £1700 a month ago - have to say , its not worth it ... but how amazing is that - bought for 1200 - and sold for more - not many synths do that
I generally preferred the Prophet in this test, which is weird because I’d keep my OB6 over the P6 if pushed! Maybe that means I should be cashing the P6 in for a P5/10! 😅
I've had a Prophet 6 and now a prophet 10. The sound quality is much better. (I also have an OB-6 which I preferred to the Prophet 6)
@@SpacehotelMusic Interesting to hear someone with a similar view. If you had were given an OB-X8 tomorrow would you sell the OB-6 or do you think it would still have a place?
yes.
They both sound wonderful.
They're both awesome. couldn't afford either but I think the Prophet might be easier to fit in a busy mix/song. It's defo smoother. If you can afford both get both!
Dope stuff guys!
I have a Prophet 10, but now I also want an OB-X8. The Moog Muse seems pretty sweet as well
2:09 At that moment, the Prophet wins. The look is just screaming "This is the synth."
Never will be another like it. The design and form were just utterly brilliant.
Though on that last discussion with Dave and Tom on the Oberheim channel, the OBX8 sound at the intro is the most beautiful sound I ever heard out of a synth.
If you pick your synths based on look, can't imagine the dirt you ended up with 😆 Seriously though, as far as quality of patches the Ob is clearly the winner
I say that Falcon's shorts won the battle
That was fun! I was expecting to go for the Prophet - I owned a 5 back in the day and let it go for peanuts sadly, it was a beautiful synth, but here I was more drawn the Oberheim - funny old world 🙂
I expected to like the Prophet better too, but I love the growlier tone of the Oberheim.
I got the p5 a couple years ago. Needed to get a poly. At that point the ob was still rumour. Had they both been available I’d have chosen the ob. But The p5 is a really lovely synth. It’s a real instrument. It makes proper old fashioned analogue sounds. I’m scoring a film with it and it’s just great. It’s Nothing like the p6 or 08 or any of the other modern dsi synths which never sounded great to me.
I might need an ob though. It’s clearly the other real deal.
Prophet is definitely the more "utilitarian" choice because that midrange presence and smooth filter allows it to really sit nicely in the mix without too much compression or EQing. But the Oberheim definitely has deeper sound design options with the different filter slopes and the state variable quality, and it just sounds MASSIVE in a way that the Prophet can't quite do. I think Oberheim excels at fat low end and the detuned leads are great but Prophet is better for mellower pads and is more well-rounded. Basically I think Prophet is "jack of all trades" and a great synth if you can only have one, and Oberheim is a "specialist" for specific sounds. This is why the best musicians in the world wanted both in the 80's, they are actually super complementary tone-wise
I called it a draw, but I'd take the Prophet... Unless you were giving them away in which case I'd take the Oberheim, sell it, buy the Prophet, and have a weekend in Bognor on the change.
Both the Prophet-10 and OB-X8 are at the very top of my list. 😊
Questions Answered.
I currently have P10.
Absolutely love it.
Now OBX -8 .
On my list.
Problem Solved .
They both compliment each other
Beautifully.
Falcon busting out the 80s quartal sus chords 💯
You know how it is 😉
I'm not sure whether it's down to whether Prophet sounds better than Oberheim or vice versa, but Prophet is more generic, middle of the road and Oberheim is instantly and only Oberheim. I've got things like rev 2, prologue, mfb synth Pro, Nymphes, JD-XA, Waldorf M and I don't feel that the Prophet would add a vastly different, instantly recognisable sonic pallete, but the Oberheim would. Nothing I've got can go anywhere near the distinctive Oberheim sound.
Both are great but one is unique, I've heard a flipside argument that the Oberheim is more limited, more of an acquired taste and harder to sit nicely in the mix.
Delicious comparison! I want both on my rack above the Hydrasynth Deluxe and Korg SV-2 88. Was expecting more similarities, but one is a carpenter's toolboox, and the other that of an auto shop!
Why has Falcon taken his pants off and done the video in his boxers?????
What can I say, it’s been a real struggle lately with these electricity bills 😢
Jack, please bring Nice Mike w/ a Yammy versus Dan with a Prophet-analog. Give them 2mins with control adjustments. Five categories.
I can't pick really. The prophet is an awesome synth that plays with itself and others nicely. It's the best all rounder for me. The oberheim is brash, huge and really forward. The only answer is to have both. I'm hoping for an OBX8 module. Together they're magic.
No contest: Oberheim.
Oberheim all the way for me. The prophet is cute and all but doesn't have the raw tone and balls of the oberheim
That outro beat slaps!
Oh, blimey!!! Does anyone know what's the last song going on? It just sounded beyond sick.
Oberheim... All the way. The Prophet definitely sounds sweet, but the Oberheim sounds like an angry frickin' monster!
Man I’d love to hang with you fellas sometime - way too much fun going on across the pond 😂
Full on bro-mance you could say?
1:24 Great stuff on the two shillings. Has to be a sterling silver one pre-1920.😊 Or the 50% silver ones pre-1947 were very handsome coins too.
I thought you were going to use a Bitcoin or a Doge for a minute!😂
4:27
It’s like the intro pad sound of ‘Less than zero’ by The Weeknd. It’s so beautiful sound.
Super entertaining video, really appreciate yall! I lean toward the P10 for the warm, phatness. Love the OB, but I struggle to find space in my music for it's strengths.
It’s the Prophet for me.
First- more on screen time for Falcon and Jack together. They are engaging hosts for the channel. They both found good examples for these two synths. I give a slight edge to the Oberheim because I love the Dive Bomber Bass. Well done y'all!
More screen time coming right up!
And thanks George glad you liked the video!
If you took away the fist bumps, this video would be 3 seconds long 😂😂😂 Just kidding, what a great vibe
You could just get both MIDI’d together and have a BOberPhet or ProfitHeim.
It is simple really. Get them both!
Oberheim wins imo, but Prophet is second :)
I will have BOTH.
Falcon was killing Jack up until round 4 then Jack came back. I was proposing putting Jack behind the camera and having Falcon only onscreen but it was even haha. Both monsters synths though. I picked up the pro 3 SE so I get both the OB filter and Prophet filter without selling my house! (plus mono > poly) :DD
man it's my dream to own one of these
Id get the OB-x8, but by the time I had it all setup with effects I’ll spend so much I might as well get a desktop Prophet too. So both 😁
Great synths and sounds, but I've never gotten back the _'feel'_ and excitement and new-ness the '80s had for me!
the oberheim should not use the stereo spread to be a more fair (and useful) comparison
This made me smile 😁
Awesome! More videos like this 🎉