The 911 Rennsport Evo S is a Porsche Restomod with a Difference... or is it?
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Today on the channel, I drive a "911 Evolution S" created by 911 Rennsport: www.911rennspo...
This is a car based on a 1989 Carrera 3.2, but with a retro style and suspension by Dutch experts TracTive. Will it make this stand out from the crowd?
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I think there’s two type of Resto-Mod: there’s the ones where the buyer wanted a brand new car in a classic body, and the other is where the buyer wants the classic car but with modern convenience and usability, and this is to me what resto-modding should be, and I think this car is definitely the latter; this is car built to be used and bought with the intention of being used, so it gets a thumbs up from me.
100%
Love a Porsche, especially a classic. If you have the money then why not? Although prices of older Porsches are over-inflated because the big wallets will win the best cars. If you bought your old poster Porsche 25/30 years ago, then you'd be having a good old laugh now.
Why did you even do a video on a restomod?? Lol... you were angry the whole time... scoob
A restomod makes a lot more sense than a modern supercar. You can spec it exactly how you want it, so that everything is right for you.
I am in favor of any modification that allows you to drive the car more. Comfort and reliability are huge
Sorry, I stopped listening to your intro rant when that engine came on screen.
Restomods all the same? Hardly. For me, restomods are all about getting the engineering and design details right. Singer does this brilliantly. This 911 Rennsport? Not even close. It looks poorly conceived and executed to me, with no attention to detail-real amateur hour stuff. The net result, IMO, is that it looks cheap and ugly. I wouldn't have one at any price.
Sign a le times is when a cheap 911 restomod will set ya back north of 100thou!
I get the feeling Jay dosn't really appreciate resto mods. I think they are great it keeps lovely examples of cars on the road in daily use, rather than in garage under a tarpe. Re-use > Recycling.
Thank god 🙏🏻. When I read the title I had a sudden fear that ‘with a difference’ meant EV😱
Guy has taste and the requisite amout of dosh to make 911 heaven. Good for him, and thanks for the review.
We need more long-form content like this!
Very nice. Keep the old body style. But modernise it to be usable. Without driving a slow old outdated car.❤🫶🏁🔥🤑😎
If you take the intake pipe off a daewoo matiz its sounds a bit like a 911.
I dreamed of 911s when I was a small boy. I was obsessed by them. It’s a desire which has faded over the years but remains as an itch that is still to be scratched. One day, one day…
💯! I keep looking at 997s on auto trader thinking one day as well…
I'm sure you have a certain year or generation in mind as your dream... but the 996 is a GREAT way to get into the brand! Ask me how I know. :D :D :D
I’m the same and I bought a 996 and my god I love it, best car I’ve owned in 20 plus years and I do get a buzz 3 years on when I see it
@@ksteak27what motor are you running?
While you don’t need anyone telling you what to do, I respectfully strongly recommend that you JFDI 😊
I am 64 and harboured the same inclination since I was a teenager, so mid-1970s.
My dad enjoyed fast cars greatly, and we had, during the first oil shock, a bunch of cars that people had panicked about and dumped at deep discounts. My favourite was a British Racing Green TVR Tuscan of the late 1960s / early 1970s.
Just last week, I finally took the plunge and bought a 911 996 40th anniversary edition. Low mileage but used regularly but sparingly. It’s in “collector’s condition” and the spec is fully loaded, including retrofitting an OE Porsche Switchable Exhaust, updated the music, communication and navigation system by replacing the original unit with a Porsche Classic comms management plus, together with a major service including all coil packs, some suspension components and new tires all round.
I have only owned it for a few days, but it’s just terrific, makes lovely noises, goes like stink (it has the Power Pack engine with 345bhp). The planted feel and super precise steering are two of many other glorious features.
I don’t ever plan to sell it. As a retired couple, we don’t need a second car, but I just fancied getting one. That prompted me to think what did I want, needs having been taken off the table, and quite quickly, the answer came: a 911. The next question was what kind of 911?
I tried out a 992 generation 911 GTS on offer for £83k iirc, and while it’s an incredible car, it is too wide to enjoy it around Kentish minor roads. I also found it too heavy, too powerful, too fast etc. I’m aware this might sound schizophrenic because surely I wanted all those things. But what realised I wanted was an older model, which had a little bit less of everything.
I knew from my vintage motorcycles that I could absolutely wring the neck of my 1977 Suzuki GT380B, which I have owned since 1978 & restored myself. While my 1977 Suzuki GT750A model, also one I restored 15 years ago, is by far the superior machine in almost every way, it’s much less enjoyable to thrash around country lanes. When I return home after riding the small bike, I reflect on the slower ride, during which I was in the throttle most of the time and highly engaged in riding. The feel of pushing it while not actually going very fast is intoxicating. That’ll be the last machine I ever let go.
Obviously even a relatively modest 911 is plenty of sportscar! But compared with the hyper modern 992s, it’s a throwback to the end of the analogue era. I thunk that’s why the 996.2 is just perfect for me.
If you go ahead, the best advice given to me was to think hard about why you’re contemplating buying the car and what you realistically want to do with it. In my case, once I did that, the penny dropped on what the right car for me was.
I disagree that it won't attract as much attention as a lambo or ferrari, especially if he is going to take it overseas where there may be tons of ferrari's and Lambo's and not one of these Rennsport 911's. It would arguably garner more attention to those that have an eye for detail.
They only decent active suspension on a car was the Citroën XM Hydractive 2.
My dad had an XM with the Hydractive suspension. It’s never been bettered for comfort and handling. A real shame the rest of the XM was built like a Citroen or a dispersable asprin.
@@JelloTypeR Loved my XM. Even got featured in Practical Classics.
There’s something about the design language of older cars which just makes me so happy to at them. I’m really not a fan of modern styling at all.
All points are well received and I absolutely agree. The cost people incur to mod these cars are ridiculous and price others pay for that mod suggests “more money than brains.”
In my case, I can afford one but frankly, why would or should I? And, the car would probably become a “garage queen.” Therefore, I think I would buy a complete “bone stock” 911!
Well, drive on Jay, drive on!
Definitely not tired of another 911 resto mod unlike Kia, rovers etc
Very good quality presentation J. Enjoyed it thoroughly. Beautiful resto mod. I love Porsche!
When Porsche won’t build you a car because you aren’t on the Christmas list then someone else will take your money. No allocation required….
I’d love to take my 1973 Lotus Europa John Player Special to Rennsport and see what they can do to it! It’s already the most incredible handling car I’ve ever driven.
LOVE those tan recaros.
It can't be 400Litres per second if its 3.4 liters and 7000rpm can it? Unless I'm missing something
It’s 200 litres per second because it is 4 stroke.
I have had my eye on one of these but the costs are too prohibitive. The G50 gearbox is a fine transmission and the desirable option. Jury is still out if I invest in one of these or go modern 911. Thanks for the video as it was very informative. 😎
As a prior owner of a 1980 and a 1987, both daily drivers, and current owner of a 992, I can tell you positively that the new car is better in every way.
I own a number of classics and while I restore most to stock specs, any performance improvements are not immediately noticeable - only to the driver. I’m not sure of the logic of converting a G-body to a F-body. If you want an improved F-body, then buy one and improve it. Converting the body requires substantial and irreversible surgery which to me is quite criminal! Besides, I’m not sure any of this is certified by any independent regulator. Certainly here in Malaysia it’s pretty laissez faire, so the risk of structural or performance defects is pretty much on the owner. Frankly, the failure of the Titan submersible has made me reflect on these issues!
Porsh? Really?! Porsh? Wtf. Everyone knows how to pronounce Po-wersh. Get it right, you wonderful brit! Fabulous car.
An acquaintance in my Porsche club just received his Singer after a four year wait and it is amazing. 1.2 million is a bit much for my poor blood though! They are nice but I prefer the mid engined Boxster/Cayman which is to Porschephiles heresy, but oh well. It handles better, has better turn in and balance and is easier for a mere mortal like me to drive fast. The higher end GT4 and Spyder are sublime and more than enough for me
i don't think that engine is quite gulping 400 L/s of air, unless it reaches 15000 rpm, which i doubt it does.
It's a 3.4 litre engine & it's naturally aspirated right? So in theory with 100% pumping efficiency and ignoring the fuel content in the mixture, that is 3.4 litres per revolution - so for 400 litres per second that would need to be ~117.65.. revolutions per second, times 60 - so it would have to be an ~7000rpm red line - unless my calculations have missed the mark somewhere? There is of course, nothing unusual about this, any 3.4 litre N/A engine that can rev to 7000rpm will use 400 litres of air per second - assuming perfect pumping efficiency - which of course, no such thing - and of course, around 1/15th of the volume is also fuel.
@@Beer_Dad1975 your calculations did miss the mark, nearly in the fact that this is a 3.2 litre and not a 3.4, greatly in the fact that this is a 4 stroke engine, so it takes 2 revolutions to have each cylinder filled with fresh charge, a 3.2 litre engine pumps 400L/s at exactly 15,000 rpms, that is ofc not including the fuel and considering 100% pumping efficency.
It is a 3.4l engine but you are right it is 4 stroke. So 200 litres of intake per second.
@@guywarren5555 i will admit that i'm unsure about the engine's capacity, i believed (perhaps erronously) that it was a 3.2 L, if it is a 3.4L then the rpm needed to achieves 400L/s is (in a perfect world) 14117rpm, the actual teoretical maximum this engine can achieve is 198 L/s, the engine does in reality achieve considerably less, i suspect
It’s a 3.4
I’m sure he said that near the start .
I think rennsport do offer a 3.8 litre version too
I suspect most of these are just weekend cars, understandably, for which, why not just get an original 70s long hood Porsche, or an 80’s 930 and enjoy the complete charm and authenticity of it.
A Singer is a restomod’mod and adds engineering modernity to the equation, they make sense…but all these others make no sense to me at all.
I get your points but - how about the ability to enjoy most of the charm of the early-to-mid air cooled 911s while having some improvements even Porsche would have made, as someone said, had they the technology/business case then to do so. At half or less the price of a Singer. That said... I love the earlies as much as anyone--have coveted since a kid in the 60s--but cosmetically I would just leave the 964s alone, though I can appreciate the artistry of a good back-date. In terms of crashes, the world out there is not friendly enough for me to daily an early (long hood), original or backdated. I'd always be concerned about all the idiots (including any misstep by this one ;)) out there and resulting incidents, cosmetic or worse. And daily is exactly what I would want to do with it.
I didn't realise that Rennsport is owned by Paul Cockell and his father Keith. Keith is the designer of the Talbot Tagora
As a kid growing up this iconic car was the dream cars to be had , as the years went on the desire faded from which a scratch would develop and last year it was answered! In the form of a 997 C4S complete with a Hartech rebuild and factory areokit and a nice ocean blue paintwork/ tan leather interior. It has a rare “Makasser package” like an old guys spec lol!, but I’m happy with it and really have fallen for Porsches now, I’m looking to one day get a gt3 all being well , my other car is CLS63 S shooting brake 😎
If you're saying that this example cost him the same money as a brand new GT3 Then I would always be choosing the GT3 , and I think most out in the community would agree.
I think he was implying it would be the same as a list price GT3, of which you are very unlikely to get one at.
I’d go the older one everyday new cars are too quick, capable and efficient that they can be dull in comparison to an older car with more feel
In my opinion anyway
@@2702simmo The latest models of the GT3 are considered some of the best driving cars ever produced. I brand new Kia Sorento can be too fast for the roads, so your argument falls flat. But hey, you do you boo. This is why there's many ways for a fool and their money to be separated and not just one.
@@a1topdog m
Moot point. Move on
@@SirNecro boo? 😳 that’s a bit cringey
I’m sure they but talking from personal experience I find modern gearboxes soulless and modern performance cars too quick to realistically have fun on modern roads
Personally I have more fun and experiences driving on the good roads in north wales in my old 911 and TVR
The first resto-mod review I've watched that makes sense.
These restomods are all over Autotrader for sale The prices asked and interest in this fad has died a death imo RIP
Good idea just keep all the modern crappy electronics out of it
If I had the money, I'd get a 911 restomod and move to the South of England. It would be my daily pretty much all year round and I'd take it all across the UK. The problem is, besides not having any money at all, that I actually stumbled upon the Singer cars first, which means I got used to the incredible attention to detail and craftsmanship that they deliver a long time ago. Still, I'm diggin' this one here, although I'd opt for a different colour and wheels that are bit more like the Singers.
I agree with you for the most part but a Singer costs way more.
@@saulespino2510 Yeah, unfortunately they are outrageously expensive. But I'm a sucker for aesthetics, details and quality so a Singer will always be my holy grail. I fear I wouldn't be as happy as I should be if I were able to purchase and own any other more affordable 911 restomod. Glad I'm a poor sod who can hardly maintain his 97 C-Class estate, so I will probably never have to deal with said issue.
What a lovely thing🤗
I am in love with those seats
Now that’s what I call a car
Obviously, we all want one. But aside for what you said about all restomods being pretty much the same, they also single handedly ruined the 911 aftermarket by making vintage 911 outrageously expensive. You have money and you want a 964? Bad luck, all the resto modders already bought them, and the very few that are left cost an absolute fortune =/
Stunning 911 James,Singers are brilliant but the prices are crazy. I have not had the chance to watch your Capri 2.8i review but I can t find it now.
Never trust a F## Tradesman
When I saw the radio at 9:12 , I was tempted to look for one to put in my Jaguar XJ40, but when I saw the price in the 4 digits, I think I'll stay with my much cheaper Phyee JSD-3001, at +-50$. It is generally similar to the expensive one, but with it's Chinese quirkiness and more than likely lower sound quality.
An Ulysse Nardin? -Not bad!
Yes, a very expensive but cool watch indeed.
I think the Porsche restomod community has gone a bit mad because everyone wants one, and the build slots are so far away, it opens up the market to other people to do exactly the same thing.
wish i can see you reving your throttle bodied s2000, you already loved the suspension, i was loving the transformation and the feedback you provided about the customization.. i admire Guy's approach of modernizing a classic instead of a flashy modern duper car. love the channel Jay, cheers from denver colorado
GODDAMMIT!! I thought I'd be first!! 🤣🤣
I was first by four whole minutes! Staggering...
@@richardharrold9736 🤣🤣
I would love to see a to review on a Guntherwerks 911, they seem like engineering marvels.
I enjoyed this video 👍
I've always seen the restomod 911s to be similar to the VW Transporter crowd.
Yes, yes, very nice, but more importantly, where did you get that flannel?
Fairplay to Guy, if you got the money to forfill your lifelong dreams, do it! 🤙🏼
Brilliant!!! Would they do and LHD for the States????$
First? Apparently so! These are such pretty little things... have to say I'd want it to rev a lot higher than seven thousand with such a short stroke engine with ITBs.
Love a good restomod!
Stunning, I'd take this over a new GT3 all day.
Good Review
But price wise.
Sorry not my budget
MAGNIFICENT!!!!!!!!!
It seems to me that the best and least expensive restomod is a morgan plus four.
Such a good sound.
Retropower is the king of restomods. IMO
If only i could even afford a tatty 996, dream on...
Yes please!
Couldn’t agree more with the introductory rant!
Incredible!
We Porschefiles love iconic restored Porsche, they may look the same but to those who know, know.
Edit: Jay what watch are you wearing, looks like a Ulysses Nardin?
If I could afford one a 911 Turbo S and save the money. Or if I wanted a better engine and more power a E46 M3.
You don't want an E46 M3...unless you plan on an engine rebuild at 100, 000kms, having the rear axle/diff mounts completely rewelded and strenghtened (the engine torque tears the mounts to bits after a while) and ruinous servicing and replacement parts costs. Ask me how I know this :/
They are good when they are new...after a few owners and over 80,000 kms they can be hideous to maintain.
We need more resto mods for the r34 and supra
Did i miss the cost of this car?
Master of the tailpipe shot.
Never understood restomods
Great concise video
Nice Ulysse Nardin, J
Thanks J! 🙏🙏
Is it ULEZ 😂
Wonderful video.
Quality!
Want one ❤
4:10-7:12-10:39
Love it !
In my opinion, a restomod barely fixes the main issue with classic cars: passive safety.
Old (sports-) cars plenty fast enough for modern traffic, and if properly sorted may even be reliable. But if some idiot crashes into you, you are more likely to die than in a modern car.
Some of them, maybe... but 911s are pretty strong. Anyway, if you're in a collision at or near national speed limit, a closing speed of around 100mph will kill you in just about anything.
Moan, moan, moan...whinge...safety....boring....moan....can't drive to save my life....whinge....put me out of my misery and lock me indoors...moan, whinge...
@@SPC22 the "some idiot crashes into you" scenario can happen to the best of drivers. Your comment is neither helpful nor necessary.
@@richardharrold9736 Moan, moan, moan...whinge...safety....boring....moan....idiot crashes into you....whinge....comment neither helpful or necessary...moan, whinge...ROFL! Dweeb...
@@richardharrold9736
Both are fair points. I would rather choose an old 911 to have a crash in than an old Elan, knowing that national speed limit crashes are not survivable in any car.
cool now do an E-type.
Yes, Id love to see James review one of the Eagle E-type models available.
Saint Clarkson said of the Eagle roadster "it's like driving around in Douglas Bader himself! LOL
Lovely car. Btw..its « pounds feet » for torque and not « pound foot » the same way its « miles per hour or miles an hour » not « mile an hour ». Pet peeve.
@petyrkowalski9887 I do have to respectfully take issue. I think the issue is the pluralisation of unit names combined with the fact that the quantities are multiplied (force x distance -> pound foot) instead of divided (e.g distance/time -> mile/hour). Pluralising speed specifies how many miles per single hour -> miles per hour. However, pluralising quantities that are multiplied is not the same. Another example: electrical resistivity combines units of resistance and distance to give the unit “ohm metre”. Pluralising is “ohm metres”, not “ohms metres”. Hence applying the same logic to torque would give “pound feet”, not “pounds feet”. Similarly, in SI units, torque pluralised is “newton metres”, not “newtons metres”. I’m not wanting to start one of those pedantic discussions but there is another way of approaching this topic. Cheers.
I’ve owned several 911’s
72 2.7 R/S replica / 87 3.2 carrera / 2010 gen 2 turbo upgraded
I liked them all but none were really great drivers cars ,
I want a GT3 and that will be my next Porsche .
I’m not really sure how great the classic 911 really is but I’m sure they can be set up well like this one
Lovely thing and I get the attraction. But, but .......there is soooooo much more you could get with that amount of money. I would find it impossible to ignore the Bentleys, Astons , new(er) 911's etc, even a new M8 Competition and still have change left over for trip to and stay in Monaco in it. Maybe I just dont "get it" eh? :)
You driving a M8 competition and people will look at your like a possible Hells Angel Bikie with new wealth and not knowing how to spend it, you driving this Rennsport 911 and people will look at you with respect and thinking you are all class and style.
There is no common sense to spend this much cash for this car.
It's all emotional.
For the money I'll just take a stock classic 911, a Delta evo on the side and than buy a.....
You get the point
It is a HOOT ! ❤❤❤