Wifi 7 still has loads of benefits with speed, range and signal reliability. Even if you don't have a wifi 7 device you gain some of those benefit. I think Wifi 7 is not over price when you compare it to WIFI 6e gaming routers. Marketing BS is a stretch
what's a 'gaming router'. i've seen ISP Core routers that have infinitely more capacity than anything sold at consumer market and they didn't come with a 'gaming router' tag. I think you've been sucked into the marketing BS too.
@@MurrayWayper Simply google "gaming router". It's not rocket science. They're routers built for performance they have dedicated hardware like quad core CPU, quad bands and more RAM etc. I think you need to do your research because I feel you have a lack of understanding about the subject
@@MurrayWaypersure but isp core routers also go south of 100k$ each 😂 Our core routers is around 150-300k So i dont think the gaming market is that interested in that and why would they? Your not routing tb of data to play csgo😂
How do you deal with two storey properties on the the Unifi network map? It's not clear how well the APs signal goes through wooden floors, to cover the ground floor.
I’m a big UniFi fan and installed in multiple homes across the family. Think UDM Pro SE, UDM or the new Express as the base platform that matches the need. I add UniFi AP’s only as needed. For most of us, either WiFi 5 or 6 is more than enough in a home environment and so are LAN gigabit ports. WiFI 7 is just hype and glad to see Ubiquiti is not jumping on the bandwagon at this point. However it is time for them to start seeding 2.5 gigabit ports on their Pro AP’s. Would also like to see the UDM Pro SE in a smaller form factor as the 2.5 gigabit WAN port is sweet for those that can take advantage but not wanting a rack mounted size. Maybe that will be the next gen UDR?
Wifi 7 Client devices do exist, afaik there are several phones that support it. Linus Tech Tips tested a Wifi 7 router and I believe they got 3x the speed on a Wifi 7 phone compared to a Wifi 6e phone. Would be good to see more actual tests to see what difference it makes.
It will make a difference if you have internet speeds that pushes the speeds. I just bought an Xiaomi 7000 router. It does not have 6GHz but it can merge 5GHz to 160MHz + 80MHz. In total that can give you well over 1GHz and probably over 2GHz download also. The price is $130 so it is a pretty good value if you have 1GHz fiber or cable.
Timely timely video. I’ve been struggling with how to do a Unifi system in my house, including a detached garage/workshop that I ran two Cat6 cables to. The Dream Machine Pro is also on sale right now at $279, which depending on your needs is another option. The Dream Router does seem to check a lot of boxes for not much money, in fact it’s not much more than a good AP. If the SE were $100 cheaper it would be a slam dunk for me.
Just recently upgraded from - a 3 orbi rbk50 setup. Got udmSE, 3 u6pro APs, 2 moca adapters for coax to ethernet and a USW lite 8 POE for local connectivity and Poe after moca. Works really well, excited to add more APs inside and out and use the design center.
I would have put the APs on the Dream Router. The cable between the switch and router is a bottle neck for the 2 APs. "$44 left over for other stuff" - beer! 🙂 Re running in Ethernet cables. My cable company did that for me, when I first got a cable modem in the late 90s. The cable came into my condo in my living room, which is at one end, but I wanted the modem in my "office", which is at the other end. They ran the coax in by fishing up through a wall, along side air ducts, over my bathroom ceiling, into my laundry room and down the wall and through it into my office closet. While they were doing that, I had them pull in 2 runs of CAT5. It took 2 guys 3 hours to do it, including patching the drywall. I later added another run, into my laundry room for my access point. I have a Unifi AC Lite AP and run the controller software on a Linux computer. I have pfSense running on a mini PC for my firewall/router and an 8 port Cisco gigabit switch.
Just got the notification for FCC test reports for the Unifi U7-Pro APs, so that's a thing coming "soon" and worth the money. $600 for a 10G all-in-one router isn't too bad; the Unifi Dream Router is $200 with less connectivity and a lower spec AP, but never spend $1500 for a "mesh" system. It makes you wonder how many people pay for 1-2+ Gbps internet and do not use it or have equipment that can handle it. Edit: haha Chris basically said the same thing I did before reaching the end of the video.
People like me have a UDMP and a 10G sfp+ switch with an internet speed of 24mb/s Hands down the best network in a 1 mile radius..... Okay, that's by default.
@@rulesofimgur When the 2 fiber companies ran past my rural house I asked about getting a GPON SFP and the tech said I was the first to ask about it, Not even their business customers are using them, so I must have one of the best networks in the county, I helped build better networks north and south of me so they are better there haha.
I've got a full 10 all strung through my home, ran a bunch of single mode fiber everywhere. I've also got a 1g fiber up n down to the web. I can soon get 10g as my isp is going to release it soon. I won't get it though. I find 1g more than enough for me. I got unifi wifi 6 waps but will gladly swap them with 7s.
I live in Sweden and have open fiber, it's cheaper to have 1Gbit the first 6-12 month than have 250Mbit, after the 6-12 month you switch internet to another company and get new 6-12 month 🙂
Hey man love every single one of your videos but your audio quality seems like its cut off pretty significantly in the last few videos. Not sure if it's a setting but just some helpful feedback.
the m.2 standard is actually normal for both laptop and desktop wifi. some desktop boards have a wifi slot for these and some addon cards convert m.2 to PCIe to use laptop cards, because they're cheaper and easier to make.
Price point is a consideration for a number of home customers. 1GB and above you have to other unifi products such as the UDM-Pro. Cut your coat according to your size :)
how do you set up that network. I struggle with having devices hang onto a n acces point for too loing which causes hiccups when going across the house. I already set everything to low output
Wifi 7 is not marketing bs . In my testing I found that each band have better throughput thus making even devices that are not wifi 7 still have improvements like 2.4ghz going from 100 Mbps to 250 Mbps , 5ghz 450 Mbps to 1 gb/s and 6ghz 1.1 gb/s to 1.6 gb/s and wifi 7 devices getting 2.8 gb/s
I use the router my internet provider gave me for free and I got 2 TP-Link EAP653 AX3000 (wifi 6) access points and a TP-Link TL-SG1005P PoE 5-Port Switch. Paid half of what you are suggesting and the wifi is totally fine.
🤔 I would just probably keep it simple Tp link XE 75 Pro was just on sale at Best Buy 3 pack . I have a 3100 square foot house Got set up with no blind spots that’s just too easy
I just upgraded from a Netgear RBR750 setup to a tp link wifi 7 easy mesh and I'm happy...my old router on wifi topped out at 300/400 when I'm the next room. This one puts me at close to a gig. I have an internet if things home... So having the extra bandwidth is lovely.
The release of next gen wifi APs/routers before the standard is finalized has occurred multiple times in the past. And to be fair, I'm not aware of a case where those devices were ever non-compliant by the time spec officially launched. But I completely agree that there's very little reason to buy an early wifi 7 device now - unless you need something ASAP and know absolutely need wifi 7 for some weird reason.
Nope, Netgear does it, Eero does it, TP Link does it, all without any issues. In fact TP Link is already selling cheaper WiFi 7 MESH systems. I think this guy is just salty Ubiquiti are so far behind in wireless tech.
@@marksapollobecause they wait for official standards before releasing? You know who also waits for that standard, most reputable manufacturers, not one phone supplier outside of knockoff Chinese manufacturers have “Wi-Fi 7”, same goes for laptop manufacturers and a variety of home electronics. I oversee the public Wi-Fi of a top attraction across the whole site. 70% of all devices are Wi-Fi 4, 20% Wi-Fi 5, 10% Wi-Fi 6. And to answer the first question above, Belkin released a draft-N product which was later incompatible so defaulted to G with final N spec. I know I had one.
@@backupplan6058 we use UniFi throughout our small business. I have a mixed love/hate relationship with them because, similar to Apple & Synology, they love to sit back & be late adopters with their hardware. All of the aforementioned companies are prime examples of modern tech companies that make products with an amazing experience for the end user but delay pushing the envelope on hardware specs simply because they can. To be clear, I do NOT fault UniFi for not putting WiFi 7 in their hardware right now... however, similarly, raising an eyebrow at companies who chose to is ridiculous. Cat 7 ethernet cabling is not a ratified standard, so you will hear loads of pros denouncing it's use, but most of the time it is built to a beefier specification than Cat 6A. Just because companies like to innovate at a faster pace than these "industry governing bodies" can move, does not mean they are simply money hungry "marketing vaporware" as he said in the video. This video was nonsense.
The issue I have with these internet connect “all in one” devices is if you lose connection the network goes down, with UniFi the internet goes down but the network is still functioning, so all the smart devices still work.
I can say that TP-LINK's Deco line (specifically the ones below $500) don't do that and are honestly a decent investment if you're not tech savvy. Plus, they're pretty good if you have a brick or cement house. I don't have space for a network cabinet, nor the cabling needed to support it, and I'd have to do some serious convincing to punch holes through 15 cm walls and cable all that.
Man, way to give me buyers remorse. I did manage to get this for $550 plus an addl. 15% in Amazon credit. But, yeah. Buying this stung. I really wanted the SFP+ and 2.5G. Honestly, I was going to go the cheap (1G WAN Omada router / Controller / WAP / L2 10G/2.5G Switch) path. Which would have been about the same price. $450. I would have preferred the componentized setup. But, my old all-in-one was dying and needed replacement. Hopefully, this implementation of WiFi7 will persist or be upgradable, so this will be a good futureproofed all-in-one. It's predecessor was an Archer 1900 gen 1 I have been using solid for over eight years. I paid $129 for that. Plus... It shows animated emojis right on the front! That's worth, at least, a 25% premium. Stickers and RGB add 15% horsepower!!
For new/newer homes that are prewired with ethernet, or homes where wiring is relatively easy, wired access points make all the sense in the world. However, there are a TON of homes, maybe even most homes, where wiring cable is either extremely difficult or impossible. I'm in such a home. Therefore, wireless backhaul between nodes is the best way to cover our house. I'm currently running a 5 node eero Pro 6 mesh system. I enjoy strong device connections throughout the house. However, while most reviewers concentrate on speeds between devices and the router, I'm more interested in wireless backhaul speeds between access points/nodes. While I could care less about Wifi 7, it seems that the current Wifi 7 labeled mesh products (Orbi, Deco, eero) have stronger and faster wireless backhaul performance (I don't know if it's part of the standard or if it's just evolving technology). I'm still investigating, but if that's true, then getting a Wifi 7 labeled mesh system makes all the sense in the world for me and those in my situation.
My ~1500$ network (2br apartment, 1gb fibre WAN): -Opnsense 10gb router w/ ryzen 5700g -U6 Enterprise (for 6ghz, I live in a highrise neighbourhood) -U6 Pro (other end of apartment for coverage/reliability/redundancy) -Mikrotik 8x10g switch (for NAS, HTPC, Virtualisation.. all 2x10gb LACP) -Zyxel 2x10g, 2x2.5g, 8x1gb switch (APs and things I want to wire that aren't fast like printers)
I just bought a $100 tp link be3600 "wifi 7" router and it's an incredible value simply for the two 2.5 GbE ports. I'm connected to a trendnet 2.5 GbE switch and am very happy with my Internet. I have the Xfinity 1200 Mbps plan and get 1300-1400 to my gaming machine. Also get 1200 over wifi with my s24 ultra.
I would not go with the UDR unless my ISP around 400Mbps. You mentioned the 1G, I would tell you that you cannot use that 1G even with all features disable and fans will be at high speed. It will max out at 600-700Mbps. I would go with the UDM instead even if the access point on top is WiFi 5. The CPU can actually do 1Gbps.
For the 1,500 budget, I would probably get a 24 port switch instead and still only have three U6+. Maybe I would have the budget to pay someone to run the ethernet all through the house, because that is indeed a pain. For network newbies, it's a very good idea to pay someone to run the wires, as this is not easy to get started with. Once you know how it's done, it's just really annoying to do :)
It’s been a few years since I’ve worked for the company, but I have seen this happen before. That price is there as a failsafe from people purchasing a product that an unsuspecting associate placed a product on the shelf too early, as we can see the price difference between the store and the website (and seeing that the flagship BE24000 retails for $700, that price tag doesn’t make sense).
Agreed. Most people don't need this and 6e is plenty. In my case I have some parts of the home that I can't run cables to and I need GB or greater Lan. My computer has wifi 7 and I can't utilize my 1gb Internet from the computer. This is mostly for the people that want the fastest Lan with no cables or that buy things because bigger number is better
WiFi 7 is the convergence of seamless WiFi and fast Cellular data at the same time. It will enable 10 gig data speeds. Xfinity 10G is their marketing campaign for their "10 gig internet service". Though they've never hit 10 gigs, the technology is there from other MSOs.
Comcast isn't making any such claims that the "10G" means anything to do with anything wireless. It's referring to their XGS-PON fiber backbone that's run to their fiber-to-coax nodes. Just because no one wants to do any research about it or understand it shouldn't mean that Comcast should have to cease and desist on such marketing. It reminds of me how hard drive manufacturers had to start labeling their drive capacities just because Windows and Mac used the wrong unit prefixes.
I have been using a TP-Link Archer AX3000 router for the last few years. I configure it to automatically restart monthly, and I do this for preventative maintenance. Even with older firmware, I never had to restart it daily.
I think you nailed it like you always do. But I think WAN speeds matter with security services enabled. That was just one small talking point that was missed. With one gig and 5 gig home service being standard. You did illustrate a Lte T-mobile in the diagram. I would go with the dream machine. SE, because that it will at least keep up with today's speeds.
It is the Unifi Design Center. It is a web based application so you should be able to find it by googling it. I'd post a link but TH-cam doesn't like that.
I don't use much wifi (phone + kindle, that's it) so I am pondering on the Unify Express, is a router, gives wifi + a lan port, which I will toss into 1 of the Flex mini switches (5 port) 1 in, 4 out... that one is in the center of the living room, Philips Hue etc. will be connected there, 1 port goes into the office, where 2 more of the Flex Mini's would be (3 pack) since they were about 1/3rd cheaper than the 8port... it gives me 10 free ports (3 in the living room, 7 total on the two switches in the office) and 6 will be used for computers there... so I have 1 free for expansion/testing machines... it's a super cheap solution, looks nice and I have the "extra ports" in various spots instead of just having 1 large 8port in one spot. (It's a rental so can't just drill in cables everywhere)
I love a lot of your videos, but this one missed the mark really bad. Explicitly saying that these companies are doing nothing but marketing vaporware is nonsense. Think about all of the hardworking professionals, engineers, etc that work for those companies & were excited to push the industry forward at a faster pace. Why is that such a bad thing, just because the governing bodies have not ratified official standards? The specs in these devices are off the charts & there are a lot of people showing real world tests that prove they are way faster than WiFi 6E, even for client devices that obviously don't have official WiFi 7 chipsets in them. Furthermore, your comparison was an apples to oranges diagram of a single router in a corner of the house with 30% or more of it's coverage going OUTSIDE the home versus multiple mesh routers placed around the house. A smart comparison would have been placing the single router in the center of the house & then demonstrating the speed gains anywhere in the near vicinity versus a WiFi 6E counterpart. I like UniFi too, but dang this was some hardcore pedaling for them. Honestly, it was a breath of fresh air for hardware tech companies to come out with some bleeding edge devices in a day & age where standard specifications can sit around for years & years after already being ratified & still not be implemented (ie: UHS-III in SD Cards, etc etc etc there's tons of examples). Yes, the bleeding edge gear will cost an arm & a leg more, that is to be expected. Lastly, incorrectly posting a "viral" post about a device being priced 3x what it actually is is just irresponsible & then using it as a basically an attention grabber again in your video is just... wow. Also "those are some pretty decent specs"!? That's insane specs for a prosumer marketing device, not something to just be glossed over like it's nothing. You pedal your talking like you are talking to "someone at home who is not a sports arena" but I am sure your average audience are techies & people who are interested in this stuff and/or can make use of the speed gains. We run a small photo/video studio, like a million other people do, and yea, transferring files back & forth to our NAS with a futuristic WiFi 7 mesh system that has dual 10Gb backhaul ports would be awesome when we aren't plugged into our docking stations which just so happen to be the ONLY thunderbolt 3 / 10G docking stations offered on the market (see what I did there, I mentioned another hardware that is lagging behind despite being rolled out for years now). Know your audience, speak to them like they have 2 cents to think for themselves not like they are a bunch of grandmas who are thinking about purchasing WiFi 7 off the shelf at BestBuy for $600 to send emails to the grandkids faster.
This is why I love my UniFi setup. I have a UDM-Pro, my 24-port switch, and 2 WiFi6 APs. When WiFi 7 is certified, thoroughly tested, and when I have a few WiFi 7 devices, I just need to replace an AP or 2. I wouldn't even upgrade my APs until I had at least a few WiFi 7 devices, because what would be the point.
Hey i talked to a Comcast manager a bit ago while doing network work there, they said 10g isnt anything about the device or protocol, its just a brand name. Just like that tp-link router was 'archer' 10g is just a name. My theory is Comcast got a terrible reputation in the 90's so they rebranded as Xfinity (so many people dont realize its the same company), now that Xfinity has a terrible reputation too, they're moving to a new brand name 10g. You dont see their ads for the 10g stuff say Xfinity much
Find a switch that has 1x SFP+ port 2x 10gbe RJ45s and 4x 2.5gb ports. Then find a device that will route 10gbe. How much have you spent? You haven't added wifi yet. Now you have 2 devices. Not saying it's a great device to buy, just saying 600 for what you're getting isn't bad.
My dream network consists of two MokerLink 8 Port 10 Gigabit PoE Managed Ethernet Switches, a Qotom Q20332G9-S10 Computer w 64 GB RAM and a 256G SSD running PFSense and probably a couple of SFP+10GBASE-T transceivers though four would be complete , and four TP-Link EAP670 | Omada WiFi 6 AX5400 Wireless 2.5G Ceiling Mount Access Point. I would put two of the Omada's on each switch, saving half the POE budget on each for future use or iOT. This goes a bit over your budget, but would be ideal for me.
I have $500 setup for 180m2/2000 sq ft, house with concreet floors, solid walls, no wood construction nor drywalls . Consists of: Unifi Express + USW Flex Mini + 2x U6 lite + 8port Tp-Link switch, all wired together. 1st floor has Unifi Express (gateway and AP) in the office room at the front of the house and 1x U6 lite at the back side (day room) , covers garage, tarrace, front parking spots and whole 1st floor, 2nd floor with single U6 lite in central position on the ceiling. Everything covered in good/excellent 5ghz signal which can reach up to 800 Mbps (speed test). I have 1000/200 Mbps fibre ISP. Most devices use 5ghz however some are limited to 2.4ghz. Do I need wifi 7? Nope :)
I guess it's been long enough that everyone forgot the fun of "Pre-N" when all the hardware vendors decided to run out in front of the 802.11N standard getting officially approved and the headaches that caused.
Another thing you could do, for your $600 system is ... instead of spending $129 each for 2 U6+ access points and running ethernet cable to each of them and do PoE and the extra switch, you could instead get 2 UniFi Express units, set them up to mesh and rebroadcast to extend your WiFi and not have to run any ethernet cable at all. They only cost $149. I just got one and installed it in my garage and then put an Lite 8 PoE to attach 2 G5 Pro camera. I did this because I didn't feel like running CAT6 to my Dream Machine SE and have to get a hammer drill with a concrete bit to bust through the foundation of my house. But I digress. Great video.
Or... U6 Mesh units.. or just running the U6+ APs in wireless uplink. Not the best throughput granted, but perfectly serviceable for regular wifi usage. Or really any combination of the unifi AP devices really. Maybe even the AC models if you can't get the wifi 6 models. WiFi 5 is still pretty usable for most home wifi uses anyway. I reckon you might be able to find the AC APs for slightly cheaper too. I personally am still running a pair of AC Lite's. With one wireless uplinked to the other. Topton OPNSense box + unifi switch lite 16 POE + 2x AC Lites is my current setup.
Pimp my wifi series😅. I will boast with 24 port switch, usg and 2 w5 + 3 w4 APs on self hosted Unifi Net. That UXG Express sounds like exciting upgrade to USG, can it do 1Gb IPS?,
While I'm in Australia and only know about Xfinity because of their sponsorship of various sporting stadiums and sports, I think the Xfinity 10G relates to the Cable Modem standard DOCSIS 4.0 (formerly known as DOCSIS 3.1) which provides a maximum download stream of 10gbs. BTW, I agree Wi-Fi 7 is marketing BS, but I wouldn't but Unifi gear in Australia, not because of the quality and usability, but rather due to the price premium due to their more limited availability in Australia (primarily being sold through commercial IT outlets rather than consumer IT retailers, unless you purchase from overseas supplies or on the grey market).
Like always your vids are spot on and informative. Only thing I would of done differently is on the second scenario I would just of added more aps on your first design :D
My OnePlus 11 has WiFi 7. I was connected a few weeks ago with an unifi WiFi 7 AP I recommend you all to give WiFi7 about 2 years of time to mature. It wasn't very stable yet. I waited with my upgrade from 5 to 6 for about 2 years because of such reasons and Ill do the same for 7.
I’ve had a UDM-Pro for a few years paired with a UAPHD and a UAP-nanoHD. I also have several cameras. The UniFi system offers so many options and I didn’t have to buy it all at once. Also have a US-16PoE but I started with the flex minis a US-8-PoE. I personally like having the flexibility to upgrade devices without having to replace the whole thing.
I have two U6-Pro access points connected to a 24-port Unifi POE switch and an Edgerouter 4. I have a couple of dead zones in my house and thought about adding a third U6-Pro ap. But with Wifi7 around the corner, I'm waiting because I could possibly pick up a U7-Pro for close to the same money or another U6-Pro for a much cheaper price. Honestly, I think there needs to be standard goals for upcoming standards. For example, wifi7 should be 2x faster and have 2x capacity than wifi6, and wifi8 should be 2x better than wifi7, etc.
For $1500 I would do a UDM-SE, a Flex 10g switch, and 2x U6 enterprise AP’s on PoE injectors. For $1400 you get 2x WiFi 6e AP’s, with both AP’s having full multigig throughput. The UDM-Pro is currently on sale for $280. So alternatively, one could do one of those and a 10gig RJ45 SFP+ module so they could add a 3rd U6 ent.
Right? That's my point...the house I used in the example is HUGE - 3400 sq ft. And 3 AP's in that house is pretty much overkill. I'm more in favor of fewer access points, but placed in centralized locations to provide the best coverage.
Uh, Dream Machines and Unifi wifi 6 AP....why should anyone take that anymore seriously than the TP-Link exactly? You don't get anything outside the 2.4 or 5 bandwidth, you get half baked software in the dream machines, and 1 gig for back haul on all but the enterprise wifi 6e with unifi. Get a product with the 3rd frequency or hardwire.
Not covered in this video is the correctness and stability of these newly introduced Wi-Fi 7 devices. The last thing i want in my network is buggy, unstable equipment. I won't consider Wi-Fi 7 until certified equipment has been out for at least a year.
I've got a full.10G fiber network ran all through my home. Oh I'm a network engineer so that's why. Wifi 7 should give around 3.5 to 4 Gb/s if all is well. Exciting when the standard gets solidified.
man I just got the Flex 10GB switch for my storage network to my Synology NAS. It is SO fast. It is faster than copying files between my internal Drives.
Hey mate, is their any apetite for your rogue support to be available around the world? Cannot aign up unless im in canada or usa. Help us aussies out mate!
"Xfinity 10G" is referring to Comcast's DOCSIS 4.0 network (Not WiFi). DOCSIS 4.0 offers 10Gbps at the node that is shared among everyone on the download side.
I setup a 3 unit tp-link WiFi 6E mesh system connected to a switch (ethernet backhauled) and get consistent 800-950 Mbps with WiFi 5 and 6 with my ATT 1 Gig Fiber. I can't image wanted to upgrade beyond 1 Gig any time soon.
I've only just started deploying WiFi6 gear to my client offices, and that's only because they are what has become mainstream availability now. Honestly, most of my offices are still rocking 802.11AC just fine, and will for years to come.
that is not standard yet but some companies are implemented, at this moment even asus with its ROG Rapture GT-BE98 Pro is making use of this standard, newegg is selling this device
worth it in the future once wifi 7 matures , they will be doing over 500MB/s file transfers computer to computer , making your 2.5GB lan port on your consumer board obsolete.
I do like that Wi-Fi 7 supports mesh networks that automatically switches between nodes based on best connection instead of holding onto dear life even if you're next to a different node that's perfectly fine. I'm just waiting for when that's the minimum for most people.
"You are not a sport's arena" 3:47
And, I took that personally😢
Meant no offense!
@@CrosstalkSolutions thanks for the videos, love your channel!
What is the recent change in mic settings? Mic sounds significantly worse in your last couple videos
I second this
Chris out here just roasting Comcast for their marketing bullshit out of nowhere. You love to see it 😂
Is that the new flavor of the day internet-speak?
Wifi 7 still has loads of benefits with speed, range and signal reliability. Even if you don't have a wifi 7 device you gain some of those benefit. I think Wifi 7 is not over price when you compare it to WIFI 6e gaming routers. Marketing BS is a stretch
what's a 'gaming router'. i've seen ISP Core routers that have infinitely more capacity than anything sold at consumer market and they didn't come with a 'gaming router' tag. I think you've been sucked into the marketing BS too.
@@MurrayWayper Simply google "gaming router". It's not rocket science. They're routers built for performance they have dedicated hardware like quad core CPU, quad bands and more RAM etc. I think you need to do your research because I feel you have a lack of understanding about the subject
@@MurrayWaypersure but isp core routers also go south of 100k$ each 😂
Our core routers is around 150-300k
So i dont think the gaming market is that interested in that and why would they?
Your not routing tb of data to play csgo😂
Gaming routers are exactly the marketing bs.
right!? I see wifi 6 gaming Routers right now that cost $600 and he's not saying marketing BS on it
How do you deal with two storey properties on the the Unifi network map? It's not clear how well the APs signal goes through wooden floors, to cover the ground floor.
I’m a big UniFi fan and installed in multiple homes across the family. Think UDM Pro SE, UDM or the new Express as the base platform that matches the need. I add UniFi AP’s only as needed. For most of us, either WiFi 5 or 6 is more than enough in a home environment and so are LAN gigabit ports. WiFI 7 is just hype and glad to see Ubiquiti is not jumping on the bandwagon at this point. However it is time for them to start seeding 2.5 gigabit ports on their Pro AP’s. Would also like to see the UDM Pro SE in a smaller form factor as the 2.5 gigabit WAN port is sweet for those that can take advantage but not wanting a rack mounted size. Maybe that will be the next gen UDR?
Wifi 7 Client devices do exist, afaik there are several phones that support it. Linus Tech Tips tested a Wifi 7 router and I believe they got 3x the speed on a Wifi 7 phone compared to a Wifi 6e phone. Would be good to see more actual tests to see what difference it makes.
It will make a difference if you have internet speeds that pushes the speeds. I just bought an Xiaomi 7000 router. It does not have 6GHz but it can merge 5GHz to 160MHz + 80MHz.
In total that can give you well over 1GHz and probably over 2GHz download also. The price is $130 so it is a pretty good value if you have 1GHz fiber or cable.
Timely timely video. I’ve been struggling with how to do a Unifi system in my house, including a detached garage/workshop that I ran two Cat6 cables to. The Dream Machine Pro is also on sale right now at $279, which depending on your needs is another option. The Dream Router does seem to check a lot of boxes for not much money, in fact it’s not much more than a good AP. If the SE were $100 cheaper it would be a slam dunk for me.
This infuriates me to no end especially being an IT admin and people say why can’t we get Wi-Fi 7 or 10 gig network ports at work.
get them to price up the project including your overtime to change out the network over a weekend.
Just recently upgraded from -
a 3 orbi rbk50 setup. Got udmSE, 3 u6pro APs, 2 moca adapters for coax to ethernet and a USW lite 8 POE for local connectivity and Poe after moca. Works really well, excited to add more APs inside and out and use the design center.
I think that your microphone settings might be off, sounds like it's recording at a low sample rate imo.
That TP Link router sure takes some design cues from the Dell XPS 700
I would have put the APs on the Dream Router. The cable between the switch and router is a bottle neck for the 2 APs.
"$44 left over for other stuff" - beer! 🙂
Re running in Ethernet cables. My cable company did that for me, when I first got a cable modem in the late 90s. The cable came into my condo in my living room, which is at one end, but I wanted the modem in my "office", which is at the other end. They ran the coax in by fishing up through a wall, along side air ducts, over my bathroom ceiling, into my laundry room and down the wall and through it into my office closet. While they were doing that, I had them pull in 2 runs of CAT5. It took 2 guys 3 hours to do it, including patching the drywall. I later added another run, into my laundry room for my access point.
I have a Unifi AC Lite AP and run the controller software on a Linux computer. I have pfSense running on a mini PC for my firewall/router and an 8 port Cisco gigabit switch.
Just got the notification for FCC test reports for the Unifi U7-Pro APs, so that's a thing coming "soon" and worth the money. $600 for a 10G all-in-one router isn't too bad; the Unifi Dream Router is $200 with less connectivity and a lower spec AP, but never spend $1500 for a "mesh" system. It makes you wonder how many people pay for 1-2+ Gbps internet and do not use it or have equipment that can handle it. Edit: haha Chris basically said the same thing I did before reaching the end of the video.
People like me have a UDMP and a 10G sfp+ switch with an internet speed of 24mb/s
Hands down the best network in a 1 mile radius..... Okay, that's by default.
@@rulesofimgur When the 2 fiber companies ran past my rural house I asked about getting a GPON SFP and the tech said I was the first to ask about it, Not even their business customers are using them, so I must have one of the best networks in the county, I helped build better networks north and south of me so they are better there haha.
I've got a full 10 all strung through my home, ran a bunch of single mode fiber everywhere. I've also got a 1g fiber up n down to the web. I can soon get 10g as my isp is going to release it soon. I won't get it though. I find 1g more than enough for me. I got unifi wifi 6 waps but will gladly swap them with 7s.
I live in Sweden and have open fiber, it's cheaper to have 1Gbit the first 6-12 month than have 250Mbit, after the 6-12 month you switch internet to another company and get new 6-12 month 🙂
The U7 Pro's are out.
Hey man love every single one of your videos but your audio quality seems like its cut off pretty significantly in the last few videos. Not sure if it's a setting but just some helpful feedback.
Raise your hand if you’re still on WiFi 5 at home 🙋♂️
I've got one u6 mesh. The other 15aps are all wifi 5
I still on wifi 4
@@AlexandreAlonso Please tell me you give less of a shit about wifi than me (everything is wired) or your internet is just that bad.
Im on 2.4ghz only wifi 4 😭
Bro, I got wifi 3
the m.2 standard is actually normal for both laptop and desktop wifi. some desktop boards have a wifi slot for these and some addon cards convert m.2 to PCIe to use laptop cards, because they're cheaper and easier to make.
Yeah and his ideal network is 1gbe. This is basically an ad for Unifi. The video is meant to suck in people who don't know how networks work...
Will this work for everything from heavy streaming to heavy gaming with 100 devices?
UDR is great, but if it can't route 1 Gbps with all the security turned on, what's the point?
Price point is a consideration for a number of home customers. 1GB and above you have to other unifi products such as the UDM-Pro. Cut your coat according to your size :)
The new UXG-Lite and UXG Express can both do ~900Mbs with IPS and IDS turned on.
how do you set up that network. I struggle with having devices hang onto a n acces point for too loing which causes hiccups when going across the house. I already set everything to low output
Wifi 7 is not marketing bs . In my testing I found that each band have better throughput thus making even devices that are not wifi 7 still have improvements like 2.4ghz going from 100 Mbps to 250 Mbps , 5ghz 450 Mbps to 1 gb/s and 6ghz 1.1 gb/s to 1.6 gb/s and wifi 7 devices getting 2.8 gb/s
I use the router my internet provider gave me for free and I got 2 TP-Link EAP653 AX3000 (wifi 6) access points and a TP-Link TL-SG1005P PoE 5-Port Switch. Paid half of what you are suggesting and the wifi is totally fine.
🤔 I would just probably keep it simple Tp link XE 75 Pro was just on sale at Best Buy 3 pack . I have a 3100 square foot house Got set up with no blind spots that’s just too easy
I just upgraded from a Netgear RBR750 setup to a tp link wifi 7 easy mesh and I'm happy...my old router on wifi topped out at 300/400 when I'm the next room. This one puts me at close to a gig. I have an internet if things home... So having the extra bandwidth is lovely.
The release of next gen wifi APs/routers before the standard is finalized has occurred multiple times in the past. And to be fair, I'm not aware of a case where those devices were ever non-compliant by the time spec officially launched.
But I completely agree that there's very little reason to buy an early wifi 7 device now - unless you need something ASAP and know absolutely need wifi 7 for some weird reason.
Nope, Netgear does it, Eero does it, TP Link does it, all without any issues. In fact TP Link is already selling cheaper WiFi 7 MESH systems. I think this guy is just salty Ubiquiti are so far behind in wireless tech.
@@marksapollobecause they wait for official standards before releasing? You know who also waits for that standard, most reputable manufacturers, not one phone supplier outside of knockoff Chinese manufacturers have “Wi-Fi 7”, same goes for laptop manufacturers and a variety of home electronics. I oversee the public Wi-Fi of a top attraction across the whole site. 70% of all devices are Wi-Fi 4, 20% Wi-Fi 5, 10% Wi-Fi 6. And to answer the first question above, Belkin released a draft-N product which was later incompatible so defaulted to G with final N spec. I know I had one.
@@backupplan6058 Well I had a draft Netgear router and it had zero issues. So your experience is not widespread.
Reminds me of Wave 1 and Wave 2 on AC routers as one router I had was Wave 1 but it had Wave 2 features implemented already before it was a thing.
@@backupplan6058 we use UniFi throughout our small business. I have a mixed love/hate relationship with them because, similar to Apple & Synology, they love to sit back & be late adopters with their hardware. All of the aforementioned companies are prime examples of modern tech companies that make products with an amazing experience for the end user but delay pushing the envelope on hardware specs simply because they can. To be clear, I do NOT fault UniFi for not putting WiFi 7 in their hardware right now... however, similarly, raising an eyebrow at companies who chose to is ridiculous. Cat 7 ethernet cabling is not a ratified standard, so you will hear loads of pros denouncing it's use, but most of the time it is built to a beefier specification than Cat 6A. Just because companies like to innovate at a faster pace than these "industry governing bodies" can move, does not mean they are simply money hungry "marketing vaporware" as he said in the video. This video was nonsense.
Why not UNIFI express ? Cost less than the UDM ? You can save some more $$$
Do you have a video with a 6E setup?
The issue I have with these internet connect “all in one” devices is if you lose connection the network goes down, with UniFi the internet goes down but the network is still functioning, so all the smart devices still work.
I can say that TP-LINK's Deco line (specifically the ones below $500) don't do that and are honestly a decent investment if you're not tech savvy. Plus, they're pretty good if you have a brick or cement house. I don't have space for a network cabinet, nor the cabling needed to support it, and I'd have to do some serious convincing to punch holes through 15 cm walls and cable all that.
Man, way to give me buyers remorse. I did manage to get this for $550 plus an addl. 15% in Amazon credit. But, yeah. Buying this stung.
I really wanted the SFP+ and 2.5G. Honestly, I was going to go the cheap (1G WAN Omada router / Controller / WAP / L2 10G/2.5G Switch) path. Which would have been about the same price. $450. I would have preferred the componentized setup.
But, my old all-in-one was dying and needed replacement. Hopefully, this implementation of WiFi7 will persist or be upgradable, so this will be a good futureproofed all-in-one. It's predecessor was an Archer 1900 gen 1 I have been using solid for over eight years. I paid $129 for that.
Plus... It shows animated emojis right on the front! That's worth, at least, a 25% premium. Stickers and RGB add 15% horsepower!!
For new/newer homes that are prewired with ethernet, or homes where wiring is relatively easy, wired access points make all the sense in the world. However, there are a TON of homes, maybe even most homes, where wiring cable is either extremely difficult or impossible. I'm in such a home. Therefore, wireless backhaul between nodes is the best way to cover our house. I'm currently running a 5 node eero Pro 6 mesh system. I enjoy strong device connections throughout the house. However, while most reviewers concentrate on speeds between devices and the router, I'm more interested in wireless backhaul speeds between access points/nodes. While I could care less about Wifi 7, it seems that the current Wifi 7 labeled mesh products (Orbi, Deco, eero) have stronger and faster wireless backhaul performance (I don't know if it's part of the standard or if it's just evolving technology). I'm still investigating, but if that's true, then getting a Wifi 7 labeled mesh system makes all the sense in the world for me and those in my situation.
Hello @crosstalksolutions, what do you use to create these diagrams and pricing docs?
My ~1500$ network (2br apartment, 1gb fibre WAN):
-Opnsense 10gb router w/ ryzen 5700g
-U6 Enterprise (for 6ghz, I live in a highrise neighbourhood)
-U6 Pro (other end of apartment for coverage/reliability/redundancy)
-Mikrotik 8x10g switch (for NAS, HTPC, Virtualisation.. all 2x10gb LACP)
-Zyxel 2x10g, 2x2.5g, 8x1gb switch (APs and things I want to wire that aren't fast like printers)
I just bought a $100 tp link be3600 "wifi 7" router and it's an incredible value simply for the two 2.5 GbE ports. I'm connected to a trendnet 2.5 GbE switch and am very happy with my Internet. I have the Xfinity 1200 Mbps plan and get 1300-1400 to my gaming machine. Also get 1200 over wifi with my s24 ultra.
I would not go with the UDR unless my ISP around 400Mbps. You mentioned the 1G, I would tell you that you cannot use that 1G even with all features disable and fans will be at high speed. It will max out at 600-700Mbps.
I would go with the UDM instead even if the access point on top is WiFi 5. The CPU can actually do 1Gbps.
For the 1,500 budget, I would probably get a 24 port switch instead and still only have three U6+. Maybe I would have the budget to pay someone to run the ethernet all through the house, because that is indeed a pain. For network newbies, it's a very good idea to pay someone to run the wires, as this is not easy to get started with. Once you know how it's done, it's just really annoying to do :)
What software are you using to se wifi coverage when moving the access points around with your mouse?
UniFi InnerSpace, it's an app that comes built into the Dream Machine that you can upload your floorplan to.
"And it also has a gigabit WAN port."
Every time someone dances around a UDR WAN speed capability an angel looses its wings.
What was that house floor plan mapping software at 6:40
Exactly what I was wondering looking through the comments for an answer? Would be good to try this software out on my home layout
Looks like Unifi design center
It’s been a few years since I’ve worked for the company, but I have seen this happen before. That price is there as a failsafe from people purchasing a product that an unsuspecting associate placed a product on the shelf too early, as we can see the price difference between the store and the website (and seeing that the flagship BE24000 retails for $700, that price tag doesn’t make sense).
I went with a 3 pack X-60 and added a X-55 outdoor unit. Rocking for about $400
Is that a unifi dream wall on the wall to your left ; reasonable alternative to the se ??
I wanted to get the Dream Machine but noticed it only supports up to 600Mb internet and i have 1gig. I was so disappointed.
Surprised the UX didn’t make an appearance.
Agreed. Most people don't need this and 6e is plenty. In my case I have some parts of the home that I can't run cables to and I need GB or greater Lan. My computer has wifi 7 and I can't utilize my 1gb Internet from the computer. This is mostly for the people that want the fastest Lan with no cables or that buy things because bigger number is better
can I know what you are using for heatmap?
I have the BE33000 and find it much more reliable and to have better coverage than my old orbi 960 mesh system
WiFi 7 is the convergence of seamless WiFi and fast Cellular data at the same time. It will enable 10 gig data speeds.
Xfinity 10G is their marketing campaign for their "10 gig internet service".
Though they've never hit 10 gigs, the technology is there from other MSOs.
Is the price really that insane vs coming up to a price not far off the mark since you’ll have to stack UniFi equipment to actually run their ap7.
$600 - $566 = $34 not the $44 you said
I get full 250 up and down with the tp link WIFI 6 deco x20 is was only 200$ 3 pack
$500 budget? I'd go with a PF/OPNsense firewall machine, and a few dumb APs. For $1500, I'd do the same, but maybe buy a few nicer APs like Unifi.
Comcast isn't making any such claims that the "10G" means anything to do with anything wireless. It's referring to their XGS-PON fiber backbone that's run to their fiber-to-coax nodes. Just because no one wants to do any research about it or understand it shouldn't mean that Comcast should have to cease and desist on such marketing. It reminds of me how hard drive manufacturers had to start labeling their drive capacities just because Windows and Mac used the wrong unit prefixes.
Do TP routers still come with "restart daily" as a mandatory function to have internet daily? That always put me off...
I have been using a TP-Link Archer AX3000 router for the last few years. I configure it to automatically restart monthly, and I do this for preventative maintenance. Even with older firmware, I never had to restart it daily.
You have me rolling. Dying of laughter. The price for the mesh is the square root of nothing. No value added!
I think you nailed it like you always do. But I think WAN speeds matter with security services enabled. That was just one small talking point that was missed. With one gig and 5 gig home service being standard. You did illustrate a Lte T-mobile in the diagram. I would go with the dream machine. SE, because that it will at least keep up with today's speeds.
What’s the software your using to show the coverage of the house?
It is the Unifi Design Center. It is a web based application so you should be able to find it by googling it. I'd post a link but TH-cam doesn't like that.
That’s Unifi Design Center. It’s pretty much online. But it links out to the Unifi store. There is a similar feature in Unifi Controller also.
10:40 you could have said nothing Chris and I wouldn't have noticed. The moment you said it though I was suspicious. Future product review?
WiFi 7 is certified now -nd U7 Pro AP + Intel BE200 made this not bs
Ditto, just ordered one!
How fast do we really need these days? Nvme with 7000mbps writes? WiFi 7? At some point the return isn’t tangible.
I don't use much wifi (phone + kindle, that's it) so I am pondering on the Unify Express, is a router, gives wifi + a lan port, which I will toss into 1 of the Flex mini switches (5 port) 1 in, 4 out... that one is in the center of the living room, Philips Hue etc. will be connected there, 1 port goes into the office, where 2 more of the Flex Mini's would be (3 pack) since they were about 1/3rd cheaper than the 8port... it gives me 10 free ports (3 in the living room, 7 total on the two switches in the office) and 6 will be used for computers there... so I have 1 free for expansion/testing machines... it's a super cheap solution, looks nice and I have the "extra ports" in various spots instead of just having 1 large 8port in one spot. (It's a rental so can't just drill in cables everywhere)
I love a lot of your videos, but this one missed the mark really bad. Explicitly saying that these companies are doing nothing but marketing vaporware is nonsense. Think about all of the hardworking professionals, engineers, etc that work for those companies & were excited to push the industry forward at a faster pace. Why is that such a bad thing, just because the governing bodies have not ratified official standards? The specs in these devices are off the charts & there are a lot of people showing real world tests that prove they are way faster than WiFi 6E, even for client devices that obviously don't have official WiFi 7 chipsets in them. Furthermore, your comparison was an apples to oranges diagram of a single router in a corner of the house with 30% or more of it's coverage going OUTSIDE the home versus multiple mesh routers placed around the house. A smart comparison would have been placing the single router in the center of the house & then demonstrating the speed gains anywhere in the near vicinity versus a WiFi 6E counterpart. I like UniFi too, but dang this was some hardcore pedaling for them. Honestly, it was a breath of fresh air for hardware tech companies to come out with some bleeding edge devices in a day & age where standard specifications can sit around for years & years after already being ratified & still not be implemented (ie: UHS-III in SD Cards, etc etc etc there's tons of examples). Yes, the bleeding edge gear will cost an arm & a leg more, that is to be expected. Lastly, incorrectly posting a "viral" post about a device being priced 3x what it actually is is just irresponsible & then using it as a basically an attention grabber again in your video is just... wow. Also "those are some pretty decent specs"!? That's insane specs for a prosumer marketing device, not something to just be glossed over like it's nothing. You pedal your talking like you are talking to "someone at home who is not a sports arena" but I am sure your average audience are techies & people who are interested in this stuff and/or can make use of the speed gains. We run a small photo/video studio, like a million other people do, and yea, transferring files back & forth to our NAS with a futuristic WiFi 7 mesh system that has dual 10Gb backhaul ports would be awesome when we aren't plugged into our docking stations which just so happen to be the ONLY thunderbolt 3 / 10G docking stations offered on the market (see what I did there, I mentioned another hardware that is lagging behind despite being rolled out for years now). Know your audience, speak to them like they have 2 cents to think for themselves not like they are a bunch of grandmas who are thinking about purchasing WiFi 7 off the shelf at BestBuy for $600 to send emails to the grandkids faster.
This is why I love my UniFi setup. I have a UDM-Pro, my 24-port switch, and 2 WiFi6 APs. When WiFi 7 is certified, thoroughly tested, and when I have a few WiFi 7 devices, I just need to replace an AP or 2. I wouldn't even upgrade my APs until I had at least a few WiFi 7 devices, because what would be the point.
I’m getting 500 up and down on WiFi 5. I really struggle seeing the point of faster WiFi.
Hey i talked to a Comcast manager a bit ago while doing network work there, they said 10g isnt anything about the device or protocol, its just a brand name. Just like that tp-link router was 'archer' 10g is just a name.
My theory is Comcast got a terrible reputation in the 90's so they rebranded as Xfinity (so many people dont realize its the same company), now that Xfinity has a terrible reputation too, they're moving to a new brand name 10g. You dont see their ads for the 10g stuff say Xfinity much
Find a switch that has 1x SFP+ port 2x 10gbe RJ45s and 4x 2.5gb ports. Then find a device that will route 10gbe. How much have you spent? You haven't added wifi yet. Now you have 2 devices. Not saying it's a great device to buy, just saying 600 for what you're getting isn't bad.
My dream network consists of two MokerLink 8 Port 10 Gigabit PoE Managed Ethernet Switches, a Qotom Q20332G9-S10 Computer w 64 GB RAM and a 256G SSD running PFSense and probably a couple of SFP+10GBASE-T transceivers though four would be complete , and four TP-Link EAP670 | Omada WiFi 6 AX5400 Wireless 2.5G Ceiling Mount Access Point. I would put two of the Omada's on each switch, saving half the POE budget on each for future use or iOT. This goes a bit over your budget, but would be ideal for me.
in the Unifi 600 bucks setup, the dining room looks to me like a deadspot, due to 3 AP's being the same distance.
I have $500 setup for 180m2/2000 sq ft, house with concreet floors, solid walls, no wood construction nor drywalls . Consists of: Unifi Express + USW Flex Mini + 2x U6 lite + 8port Tp-Link switch, all wired together. 1st floor has Unifi Express (gateway and AP) in the office room at the front of the house and 1x U6 lite at the back side (day room) , covers garage, tarrace, front parking spots and whole 1st floor, 2nd floor with single U6 lite in central position on the ceiling. Everything covered in good/excellent 5ghz signal which can reach up to 800 Mbps (speed test). I have 1000/200 Mbps fibre ISP. Most devices use 5ghz however some are limited to 2.4ghz. Do I need wifi 7? Nope :)
I guess it's been long enough that everyone forgot the fun of "Pre-N" when all the hardware vendors decided to run out in front of the 802.11N standard getting officially approved and the headaches that caused.
This, absolutely this. Unfortunately there are those too young to remember or weren’t hands on with it.
do you support in Australia
Another thing you could do, for your $600 system is ... instead of spending $129 each for 2 U6+ access points and running ethernet cable to each of them and do PoE and the extra switch, you could instead get 2 UniFi Express units, set them up to mesh and rebroadcast to extend your WiFi and not have to run any ethernet cable at all. They only cost $149. I just got one and installed it in my garage and then put an Lite 8 PoE to attach 2 G5 Pro camera. I did this because I didn't feel like running CAT6 to my Dream Machine SE and have to get a hammer drill with a concrete bit to bust through the foundation of my house. But I digress. Great video.
Or... U6 Mesh units.. or just running the U6+ APs in wireless uplink. Not the best throughput granted, but perfectly serviceable for regular wifi usage.
Or really any combination of the unifi AP devices really. Maybe even the AC models if you can't get the wifi 6 models. WiFi 5 is still pretty usable for most home wifi uses anyway.
I reckon you might be able to find the AC APs for slightly cheaper too.
I personally am still running a pair of AC Lite's. With one wireless uplinked to the other.
Topton OPNSense box + unifi switch lite 16 POE + 2x AC Lites is my current setup.
Pimp my wifi series😅. I will boast with 24 port switch, usg and 2 w5 + 3 w4 APs on self hosted Unifi Net.
That UXG Express sounds like exciting upgrade to USG, can it do 1Gb IPS?,
While I'm in Australia and only know about Xfinity because of their sponsorship of various sporting stadiums and sports, I think the Xfinity 10G relates to the Cable Modem standard DOCSIS 4.0 (formerly known as DOCSIS 3.1) which provides a maximum download stream of 10gbs. BTW, I agree Wi-Fi 7 is marketing BS, but I wouldn't but Unifi gear in Australia, not because of the quality and usability, but rather due to the price premium due to their more limited availability in Australia (primarily being sold through commercial IT outlets rather than consumer IT retailers, unless you purchase from overseas supplies or on the grey market).
Like always your vids are spot on and informative. Only thing I would of done differently is on the second scenario I would just of added more aps on your first design :D
What is the buzz about mediatek and google collabing?
My OnePlus 11 has WiFi 7. I was connected a few weeks ago with an unifi WiFi 7 AP
I recommend you all to give WiFi7 about 2 years of time to mature. It wasn't very stable yet.
I waited with my upgrade from 5 to 6 for about 2 years because of such reasons and Ill do the same for 7.
I’ve had a UDM-Pro for a few years paired with a UAPHD and a UAP-nanoHD. I also have several cameras. The UniFi system offers so many options and I didn’t have to buy it all at once. Also have a US-16PoE but I started with the flex minis a US-8-PoE. I personally like having the flexibility to upgrade devices without having to replace the whole thing.
Great, the mass majority don’t care and would use the router their ISP gives them only.
I have two U6-Pro access points connected to a 24-port Unifi POE switch and an Edgerouter 4. I have a couple of dead zones in my house and thought about adding a third U6-Pro ap. But with Wifi7 around the corner, I'm waiting because I could possibly pick up a U7-Pro for close to the same money or another U6-Pro for a much cheaper price.
Honestly, I think there needs to be standard goals for upcoming standards. For example, wifi7 should be 2x faster and have 2x capacity than wifi6, and wifi8 should be 2x better than wifi7, etc.
According to the Unifi website the Dream Router is only capable of 700Mbps wan throughput.
this reminds me of the apple airport being the first to market with 802.11 support and it was before it was even officially codified
For $1500 I would do a UDM-SE, a Flex 10g switch, and 2x U6 enterprise AP’s on PoE injectors. For $1400 you get 2x WiFi 6e AP’s, with both AP’s having full multigig throughput.
The UDM-Pro is currently on sale for $280. So alternatively, one could do one of those and a 10gig RJ45 SFP+ module so they could add a 3rd U6 ent.
There’s one for $200 as well, Best Buy is just trying to sell the most expensive model.
How big a house do you people have that you need this many access points?
Right? That's my point...the house I used in the example is HUGE - 3400 sq ft. And 3 AP's in that house is pretty much overkill.
I'm more in favor of fewer access points, but placed in centralized locations to provide the best coverage.
630ish sq ft here... just place the wifi in the center, should reach everything :D and most things I have is wired anyways
Uh, Dream Machines and Unifi wifi 6 AP....why should anyone take that anymore seriously than the TP-Link exactly? You don't get anything outside the 2.4 or 5 bandwidth, you get half baked software in the dream machines, and 1 gig for back haul on all but the enterprise wifi 6e with unifi. Get a product with the 3rd frequency or hardwire.
Not covered in this video is the correctness and stability of these newly introduced Wi-Fi 7 devices. The last thing i want in my network is buggy, unstable equipment. I won't consider Wi-Fi 7 until certified equipment has been out for at least a year.
I've got a full.10G fiber network ran all through my home. Oh I'm a network engineer so that's why. Wifi 7 should give around 3.5 to 4 Gb/s if all is well. Exciting when the standard gets solidified.
Yes, exciting for a network engineer or home labber. 99.9% + of home users will not even come close to saturating a network well below 1 GB.
man I just got the Flex 10GB switch for my storage network to my Synology NAS. It is SO fast. It is faster than copying files between my internal Drives.
Hey mate, is their any apetite for your rogue support to be available around the world? Cannot aign up unless im in canada or usa.
Help us aussies out mate!
"Xfinity 10G" is referring to Comcast's DOCSIS 4.0 network (Not WiFi). DOCSIS 4.0 offers 10Gbps at the node that is shared among everyone on the download side.
I setup a 3 unit tp-link WiFi 6E mesh system connected to a switch (ethernet backhauled) and get consistent 800-950 Mbps with WiFi 5 and 6 with my ATT 1 Gig Fiber. I can't image wanted to upgrade beyond 1 Gig any time soon.
As you only use 2 APs w the UDR you could skip the switch
I've only just started deploying WiFi6 gear to my client offices, and that's only because they are what has become mainstream availability now. Honestly, most of my offices are still rocking 802.11AC just fine, and will for years to come.
that is not standard yet but some companies are implemented, at this moment even asus with its ROG Rapture GT-BE98 Pro is making use of this standard, newegg is selling this device
$44 left over?
Does Unifi also print money for you?
So you post the wrong information and made the company look bad ?
One kind of marketing strategy too😂
So problem I run into is running the cable to far end of homes
Vs mesh router that will use wifi6e didcated wifi backhall
I also saw a review and thought I had getting issues about the price. You gotta be nuts to shell this out
worth it in the future once wifi 7 matures , they will be doing over 500MB/s file transfers computer to computer , making your 2.5GB lan port on your consumer board obsolete.
yeah if you can get ones with fast enough LAN ports to feed them ;-)
I do like that Wi-Fi 7 supports mesh networks that automatically switches between nodes based on best connection instead of holding onto dear life even if you're next to a different node that's perfectly fine. I'm just waiting for when that's the minimum for most people.
Having a quad band mesh network for WiFi 7 would be perfect. 2.4, 5, 6 and a dedicated wireless backhaul
for $1600... Drop the Flex XG, and in-waal, lower price point on the APs. Add UPS, and 4G modem backup. :)