Jesus Quotes Apocrypha: 2 Esdras
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- Contrary to popular belief Jesus Quotes Apocrypha!
Uncover the astonishing truth about Jesus quoting the Apocrypha in this eye-opening exploration with Pastor G. Prepare to have your mind blown as we delve into the depths of the 1793 KJV Bible to reveal a revelation that challenges conventional beliefs.
Jesus' Quotations Unveiled:
In a stunning revelation, Pastor G uncovers evidence of Jesus quoting from the Apocrypha, turning conventional wisdom on its head. Discover the parallel passages in Matthew 23:37 and 2 Esdras 1:30 that defy traditional understanding.
Apocryphal Connections Revealed:
Explore the connections between the canonical Gospels and the Apocryphal texts, shedding light on the intricate interplay of scripture and expanding our understanding of Jesus' teachings.
Examine the Evidence
Join Pastor G as he meticulously examines the textual evidence, including marginal references, to demonstrate the profound influence of the Apocrypha on Jesus' words and teachings.
Challenge Conventional Beliefs:
Prepare to have your perspective shifted as Pastor G presents compelling evidence that challenges the notion that Jesus never quoted the Apocrypha. This revelation has the potential to change everything we thought we knew about biblical interpretation.
Embrace the Revelation:
Don't just take Pastor G's word for it-explore the evidence for yourself and embrace the profound implications of Jesus' quotations from the Apocrypha. This revelation invites us to reconsider the richness and complexity of scripture.
Join Pastor G on this groundbreaking journey as we uncover the truth about Jesus' quotations from the Apocrypha and the profound implications for our understanding of scripture. Get ready to see the Holy Book in a whole new light!
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Perhaps it would be prudent to point out that the book of 2 Esdras 'prophecy' was so on cue BECAUSE IT WAS WRITTEN IN THE 1ST CENTURY AD. Christ did not quote 2 Esdras, the author of 2 Esdras was quoting Christ.
Exactly 💯
It's not prudent, just maybe proves John wasn't the first to document Jesus Christ
Considering Deuteronomy says something very similar, I do not believe these words can confirm or deny the validity of the apocryphal books of Esdras.
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼How amazing, this morning I was listening to someone debunking these books. Then I saw your podcast. I say to everyone, these books are still showing the glory of GOD. So I love them too.🙏
Thank you so much! I appreciate you. I believe that the evidence speaks for itself. The Bible explains its own ideas.
2nd Esdras was written after the death of Jesus Christ according to many Biblical scholars. Isn't it possible that this book simply took from Matthew so it could look like scripture?
Some scholars suggest 2 Esdras’ composition dating during the 1st century CE, around the time of or shortly after the destruction of the Second Temple in 70 CE. Others propose an earlier date, placing its composition closer to the 1st century BCE. However, certain texts within the Dead Sea Scrolls collection which state things that are found “solely” in 2 Edras were carbon dated to around 125 BC, which complicates the dating of 2nd Esdras. No scholarly consensus yet! (Scholars never agree on anything) Personally, I lean towards the 100 BC dating. But let's entertain the idea: what if it was written after Christ's death in 100 AD? Even then, it's remarkable! It challenges claims that Jesus wasn't seen as the Messiah or the Son of God during His time. However, it's important to note that scholarly opinions on this matter vary, and the perception of Jesus in his era is subject to debate among scholars. A 100 AD dating provides intriguing insights into how Jesus was perceived during His time. Fascinating stuff!
@@gclmedia I've never thought about it that way. It is quite interesting! You should cover the other apocryphal books, and even the ones in the Orthodox Bible.
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@@gclmediaHello, as a fellow believer of Christ I would encourage you to do extensive research regarding the process of carbon dating, the preconditions required, and its proven inaccuracy.
Essentially, carbon dating is very inaccurate, as it would require earth’s radiation to have reached equilibrium, which is a process that takes 30,000 years. It has been proven that it is not in equilibrium, which proves 2 things.
1. Earth is not billions of years old(at least the Sun wasnt)
2. Carbon dating will always be inaccurate
Also, many living animals carbon date back as having died hundreds of thousands of years ago. Almost all forms of chemical dating yield different results.
Absolute nonsense. 2nd Esdras was written after the time of Christ.
Even if you want to believe it was written before the time of Christ, are you really suggesting Jesus would quote from a text He knew not to be inspired?
great video btw, please keep it up!
May God bless you.
Blessings of many descendants and divine love to you
Great video, brother!
More like the books written after Jesus lived actually took ideas from him... Not the other way round...
I believe you're correct. The book of 2 Esdras was written in the 1 century AD.
People say the apocrypha is contrary to the rest of The Bible how do you feel about that?
The apostle Paul quotes pagan poets and writers (1 Corinthians 15:33; Acts 17:28); Jude quotes from the Jewish apocryphal books of Enoch and the Assumption of Moses. Obviously an author may cite something from a work that he takes to be true without thereby ascribing divine authority to the whole book. In a sermon, the preacher may quote Shakespeare or Socrates or whoever else he wants, as long as the particular statement fits his purpose, and yet he does not imply that all that Shakespeare and Socrates ever wrote is gospel truth and needs to be included in the Bible!
Epimenides is quoted in Titus. That doesn't mean his writing should be scripture. It is exactly the same with the Apocrypha. To decide what goes in the scripture you can start with things written by apostles choosen by God. That gives us the 12 apostles and the apostle Paul. That already cuts out the Apocrypha.
I have an OLD family Bible - with the apocryphal books, as well as TONS of study material regarding flora, fauna, etc. - and that passage in Matthew, while it has most / all other references your old Bible does, it does NOT have the reference back to 2 Esdras. So, my first thought would be that, the publishers of your old Bible at the time keyed in on a link there. So, no, it was NOT “in the Bible” - it was in YOUR Bible, based on the particular publishers.
What year is your Bible?
@@gclmedia right around 1880 the nearest I can determine
Very interesting I say 🤔
Where did you get this Bibls from in this video ??? I want one anazon doesn't seem to have a good one and idk where elss to get one from
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The Apocrypha is a collection of books written in the "four centuries" between the Old and New Testaments. NOTE: Jesus and the New Testament authors never directly quote the Apocrypha. Neither do they introduce it with labels that would suggest inspiration, such as “as it is written” or “as the Scripture says.” Many echoes and allusions have been detected in the New Testament,5 but no direct quotes or obvious paraphrases appear in the New Testament.
if Jesus can use Paul, even though Paul wasn't part of the twelve who Jesus taught in the flesh, then it seems Jesus can use anyone. I heard that parts of Sirach may be inspired, I read Sirach and it was almost entirely like reading a New Testament epistle (about 200 years before any of the New Testament epistles were written?)
Enoch's book was the first to call him son of man, i know it says that in daniel 7:13 but the book of enoch is confirmed within the bible itself, so when jesus calls himself the son of man, he is quoting enoch, enoch also talks about judgment etc. so these people trying to downplay 2 esdras, leave it be, also when a man asked jesus about marriage in heaven, the man spoke about a woman who had 7 husbands, that is from tobit 3:8 trust the holy spirit and jesus christ. i mean these churches want to claim jasher is uninspired or not part of the cannon when joshua tells you to look at it and in 2 samual mentions it, 2 or more witnesses remember?
The final edition of the KJV was published in 1769.
Im just curious. My ex husband was obsessed with this. I am going to read the bible and the apocryopha in the order you had the books and study. Im not new to my faith but i believe God wants us to always be informed. I dont think its going to hurt my faith in Christ to read these. If anytbing i am excited. Why do so many pastors not cover this?
The apocrypha contradicts the scriptures.. some verses says you can pray people out of hell, you can pay for your salvation 😂😂
@@Englebertawhere does it teach that?
@@Englebertawhere does it teach that?
@@theticoboy Baruch 3:4
Wisdom 11:17 and 2 maccabees 12:45-46
@@Engleberta So Baruch 3:4 says the dead of Israel are praying and asking God to hear them. Is that what you think is wrong?
What is your issue with Wisdom 11:17?
And 2 Mac 12 talks about making atonement for the dead. Is that your problem?
I love you, man. May God bless you abundantly for pointing this out.
the deuterocanonical books is what we catholics call them and i did find many scriptures that are in the new testament maybe not exact quotes but close enough.
This video is very well made. But if the comments are correct it doesn't matter because it was writen after Jesus lived.
Jesus was before Esdras or anything for that matter. Esdras probably quoted Deuteronomy
Romans 3:1-2
”What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.“
How could a bunch of Catholics write the Apocrypha if the Oracles were all Jews? No Gentile could’ve wrote the Bible (besides Luke) because everyone who writes a book of the Bible (at least in the Old Testament) was a Jew. The Apocrypha follows Catholic and Orthodox traditions that include false doctrines such as:
-You can pay your way into Heaven (Ecclesiasticus 3:30, Tobit 12:9)
-Justifying suicide (2 Maccabees 14:42-43)
-The dead are delivered from their sins via money (2 Maccabees 12:43-45)
-Tobit 6:17 TELLS YOU to forget God when you get married
These books were completely invented by Catholics and Greek Orthodox cults, and not one lick of it was the word of God.
Matthew 23:35
”that upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.“
Jesus declares that the Old Testament runs from Genesis (Abel) to 2 Chronicles (Zacharias) with the rest of the 39 books of the Old Testament mixed in there (the Hebrew Old Testament is in a slightly different order than the English-Why, I don’t know).
See Ruckman’s full discussion on the topic by looking at the video titled, “Jesus Christ DENIES The Apocrypha! | They are NOT Canon!”.
Here are two other things to consider:
1. It was never quoted by Christ nor any apostle. (This is the big one). As the guy below said, it’s possible that whatever heretic wrote the Apocrypha just took this from Matthew.
2. Paul cited heathen poetry (Acts 17:28, Titus 1:12), but never ONE Apocryphal book.
Thank you my dear brother in Christ. You are most certainly yielding to the Holy Spirit of God. You are very accurate. The apocrypha is not from our heavenly Father Elohim. We have 66 infallible books of the bible. It is Gods breathed word and it's all we need to know that Jesus Christ is Lord.
I recall there was even a passage that ok'd gluttony, that if you were eating at a gathering and are full, go and vomit then come back and continue so you didnt insult the host or something like that. But forget the verse.
The order of books in our Bibles came from LXX(Septuagint)... because only the order is changed, no problem to have the same books and biblical material....I don't like LXX because it is corrupted....other ancient Hebrew scriptures can be used to check Septuagint.... problems....
Try Sirach 28: 1-12
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Or it could have been a turn of phrase in that culture. We have a similar one in ours. It’s like saying, “I tried to take you under my wing but you wouldn’t do it.”
Jesus probably knew of the apocryphal books but this is likely idiomatic. Not a quote.
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@@gclmedia Paul quoted Greek Philosophers. You should be careful with that line of argumentation.
How do you turn a phrase? Never got that
The difference is those Greek philosophers Paul quoted didn’t have books between the covers labeled the Holy Bible. I’m showing you what was and still is contained in the Book!
@@trell1logat Turning is what you do on a lathe to shape material.
Which bible do you recommend? I don’t like KJV.
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Choose the Bible that preserves the pure words of God.... because KJV has it , Rome doesn't want this Bible
It can be difficult to read the KJV if you arent used to Shakespearian era linguistics, but it is complete, many other translations are missing scripture or word it in ways that can be misleading though, so Id recommend it as a base to compare to the others.
Matthew 6:13
King James Version
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.
Matthew 6:13
New International Version
13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.
Some are even left out all together like Matthew 17:21
I have been seeking truth also. Parallel Bibles are good when studying. Geneva Bible 1560 and 1599 before King James changed to his version. Amplified has more detailed explanation and Passion which has been removed has translation also from Aramaic which Jesus spoke. One professor in Bible College told me ESV...I like to look at different ones when studying to see if they say the same or if a verse is completely removed and why? Jesus helps all!
@@captainmeow2771 If you readeth the King James Bible there are a host of benefits from the increase of language.
It’s not a very solid case because that kind of saying was very common back then. It would be like saying “he ran fast”. Boy you got it there. I’m sure a lot of people ran fast pack then.
Additionally every quotation of Christ from the old testament has a exegetical contextual meaning not something that’s just out of the blue and coincidental and completely meaningless. Christ tied his ministries message to the Pentateuch purposefully
They hid 1 Esdras then "split" 2 Esdras "into" "Esdras" and "Nehemias".
You're handling that 200 yr + bible casually.
I am very comfortable with it! I have my limits and believe me when I say I am careful. Don’t let the camera fool you.
Saw the same thing. No gloves nothing😢
Apocrypha was written in the 400 years of silence between Malachi and Matthew..full of errors and historically inaccurate data .. to say Jesus quoted Apocrypha is hilarious.....Jews never accepted those spurious books...a random coincidence is not Jesus quoting books that came from mixed Jews with pagans.....like catholicism.......
Blessings! I see that you are not convinced. Not a problem…I do not want you to take my word for it. I will just keep the videos coming that show even more!
@@gclmedia thanks for your kindness...my search about Jesus,the New Testament and other historical facts cover more than 50 years... I'm not at war with your opinion, only I think writings like Apocrypha are not valid for our christian experience, and we must know and read Apocrypha without presupposition....Tobit has big problems, and other apocryphal books are not inspired , because its very comments.....I only try to express facts and not a biased opinion.....thanks again for your kindness....God bless all His people......
Thank you so much! Appreciate you clearing up your thoughts and intent! I am a safe zone! You will get no condemnation from me. I am only here to shine light on the Bible…hence, Biblical Elucidation!
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@@gclmedia it says Jesus quoted Apocrypha....is a rare statement... Jesus described Scripture clearly as Moses ,Psalms and Prophets....not a single mention of Apocrypha....Luke 24:44...do you accept New Testament Apocrypha??...
Only those who don't look deeply will be mislead by this... Did you know when was that Book Written? That was written years after Christ was dead. So how would JESUS quote that book if it is not yet written? You are telling us that Jesus look into the future and quote it? I would absolutely this agree... If Jesus is Quote that phrase it is in PSALMS...
Jesus quoted the book of enoch when arguing with the pharasees. He told them your error because you know not the scriptures. He told them that it doesn't matter which brother had a woman, for in the resserection, a man and or woman will not be married or given in marriage, but will be like the angels. Id say if Jesus quoted something that makes it scripture. But I've had literal arguments with pastors that say anything other that the holy Bible is a lie and of the devil. But I beg the differ. If Jesus says it's truth, then that makes it exactly 💯 that. And no opinion of a mortal man will change ge that. It didn't change it back then, and it won't change it now.
Quoting something doesn't necessarily make it scripture. The apostle Paul quotes Epimenides in Titus 1:12. That doesn't make whatever Epimenides writes is scripture. In generally scripture is written by the 12 apostles and the apostle Paul. All of whom were clearly chosen by God. Let me know if you have any questions or anything.
There is a HUGE difference between the writing of Epimenides and the Apocryphal books. Epimenides writing were never contained in the Bible, the so-called Apocryphal books were up until 1886. 🤷🏿♂️
@@gclmedia Of course they are different. They are separate books with separate writers. I have a 300 year old bible and the Apocryphal is not in it. There are always people trying to add new books to the bible.
You claimed 'This was quoted by Jesus so it should be in the Bible'. I am saying 'No, just because something is quoted doesn't mean it should be included'. Like Epimenides being quoted in Titus, that doesn't mean it should be included.
What 300 year old Bible do you have without the Apocrypha?
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More like the apocrypha quoted jesus as it was written hundreds of years after the death of jesus . What a stupid claim in this video 😂
Thank you so much! I appreciate you. I’d be interested to know which books of the Apocrypha were written hundreds of years after my Lord’s death and resurrection. According to my knowledge here are the dates given to each of the Apocryphal books by “Scholars” based on historical context, linguistic analysis, and textual evidence:
1. Tobit - 3rd or 2nd century BCE
2. Judith - Late 2nd or early 1st century BCE
3. Additions to Esther - 2nd century BCE
4. Wisdom of Solomon - 1st century BCE to 1st century CE
5. Ecclesiasticus (Sirach) - Early 2nd century BCE
6. Baruch - Late 6th to early 5th century BCE
7. Letter of Jeremiah - 2nd century BCE
8. Additions to Daniel (including Susanna, Bel and the Dragon) - 2nd century BCE
9. Prayer of Azariah and Song of the Three Holy Children - 2nd century BCE
10. Prayer of Manasseh - 2nd century BCE
11. 1 Esdras (also known as Esdras A) - 2nd or 1st century BCE
12. 2 Esdras (also known as 4 Ezra) - 1st century BCE to late 70 AD
13. Additions to the Book of Psalms (including Psalm 151) - Various dates
14. 3 Maccabees - 1st century BCE
No he didnt?
To this day, no scholar has ever produced Greek copy of the old Testament written before A.D. 300.
The entire legend of the Septuagint rests on the flimsy support that the manuscripts written 200-400 years AFTER the death of Christ match the New Testament quotations.
Which is exactly what this apostate is doing with Mathew 23:37
The Lord Jesus Christ never quoted from a greek old testament because it never existed during his time.
number 1 jesus wasnt even word for word qouting a scripture
he said a whole paragraf wich had sevral simuler sentences to old testument qouts
but its not a deract qout
when jesus does qout he says it is writen
along with this deuterronomy says a increduble simuler qout also
jesus uses several metaphors and a hen garding her nest is very simple comparison and simuler has been used in in the old testament
that Sayed this video had a pretty weak argument
yea get um
oh yae
speken facts
Thank you for watching and engaging. I appreciate you. I find it quite interesting how you will ignore the given evidence to imagine your personal biases into a text.
Jesus said, “O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!” (Matthew 23:37, KJV)
Indeed, it is cross-referenced to...
“As an eagle stirreth up her nest, fluttereth over her young, spreadeth abroad her wings, taketh them, beareth them on her wings: So the LORD alone did lead him, and there was no strange god with him.” (Deuteronomy 32:11-12, KJV) 🚫 no match, although similar...
n comparison to...
“I gathered you together, as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings: but now, what shall I do unto you? I will cast you out from my face.” (2 Esdras 1:30, KJVA) ✅
...I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings...(Matthew 23:37c)
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“I gathered you together, as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings: (2 Esdras 1:30a) Nearly identical!? Single difference being “thy children”...
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its not even a direct quote jesus says when he is quoting something he makes it clear also he gives a vary generic example which similar has been used@@gclmedia 1 its not a quote 2 he doesn't say he's quoting it he doesn't even say its written also the direct line you are refiring to is not even exactly identical to esdras so not just does he say not that he's quoting it but he doesn't even say the exact thing in fact he says the exact opposite jesus uses a similar metaphor but the outcome and context and meaning are totally different this isn't a quote its the exact opposite
You are trying too hard to stretch. That is a common enough reference to have been found in common discussion. You may as well claim that similar words, punctuation, and letters are used. That must mean the books in the Apocrypha are valid.
You are wrong SIR. The Most High was speaking in 2Esdras.
2Esdras-verse 32 The Most High states “ I sent you my Servants”
Matthew 23:37 states that Jesus was just telling them that the Prophets that was sent to them, they killed them. (Big Difference)
2Esdras-verse30 The Most High states that “ I gathered you as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings” (Meaning The Most High gathered them)
Matthew 23:37 (New Revised Standard Version) How I OFTEN (DESIRED) to gather THY(YOUR) children together as a hen gathered her brood under her wings and you are not willing.
Meaning Jesus wanted to gathered them but they refused. So Jesus didn’t gathered them. (Big Difference)
These are 2 Totally different Scriptures. 2 Esdras is The Most High speaking (ONLY) ---And-- Matthew 23 is Jesus speaking (ONLY). If anyone read the whole Scripture in 2Esdras, would have known that this was The Most High speaking.
not a quote at all Jesus says the exact opposite he accuses them of stoning the prophets and how he has longed to gather them but they refuse to be gathered and Esdras says the exact opposite that they are gathered not just are the sentences not identical but they have opposite meanings also he's not even quoting any thing when he says this he's in the middle of a paragraph oh yea shore a book as big as the bible that also has multiple metaphors and parables is bond to sound like another quote especially if the person reading happens to want the apocrypha in the bible for the sake of supporting contradicting doctrine about purgatory even thoe the apocrypha also supports talking to the dead praying to the dead affecting if there going to heaven or hell after death even offering money to god
trying to squeeze these together is ridicules
No wonder this guys channel has 2.5k subs when he does ridiculous videos like this .
Thank you for your insight! I appreciate you suggesting that I make another video like this. Thats awesome my friend, because I was also wondering the same thing 🤔. What are your thought on this one? th-cam.com/video/96wWxVSnrZM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Feic7IE6y_VVE21o do you think I should create about 4 or 5 of these videos a week, continuing to point out these Biblical cross references?
The videos are not ridiculous
Thank you so much! I appreciate you!
@@rowemeloneil3247 the actually are .