solid video, thanks for sharing! another tip from a different video: weigh your gas canister when it's brand new and write the weight on the bottom of the canister. This way you'll hopefully never over fill the canister and burst it.
The longer your stove is on the fuel canister (i.e. overnights) the sooner the gaskets will be compressed and need replacing. And if you cook and/or eat from/in your pot rather than just boil water then the pot will have food odors and leaving the pot out overnight especially by your tent invites critters big and small.
I used a double wall aluminum can alcohol stove for years. Super light, very reliable and efficient, but messy and inconvenient with fuel. Newer stove are cheap and so light, I've decided to make the switch. BRS-3000T 25 grams and currently $16. I have one arriving today and I'm super hyped to try it out!
having tried one BRS-like (the gas nozzle) i think that solution is quite specific and works better with heat exchanger pots. with a regular (albeit titanium) cup, a regular burner with a more spread out flame boils the water faster in same conditions. In any case that's my ocd, but nothing beats that weight of course 👍 (ok, maybe except if we count entire cook system 😁)
wow! i'm surprised with all those enlightening tips there was no mention that screwing/unscrewing the canister tipped to the side is making the fuel loss worse ☺️ if you ever tipped the stove while burning, you definitely experienced a flame thrower effect. That's it. plus - the tape tip - imagine having to clean the gunk if the tape shifts, yuck! i'd put a small tissue, more for padding to prevent it rattling than avoiding scratches 😁
You can put a couple of coffee filters under the canister before putting in the pot. They are lightweight and have several other uses on the trail. I agree to avoid the electrical tape and adhesive residue.
When heating water for food, drinks, doing dishes, spit bath, etc - it does not need to boil. That wastes (1) fuel, and (2) time waiting for the too-hot water to cool down. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
@@HikingWithCam, I’m English and we love our tea! Water has to be boiling! If the water is from a safe source I only boil about three quarters of a cup then top up with cold water to save gas and it’s then the right temperature to drink.
@@HikingWithCam Boiling dies do a partial job of cleaning water. It gets bacteria and a few other live things. Boiling does not get virus, and does little to nothing about agricultural or industrial runoffs. If clean water is your goal, buy a water purifier. Same with filters. Read the “Gear Skeptic’s” reports on purifying water. They are eye openers. Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
@@BrokenBackMountains G’day Broken. Right. I already have a JetBoil. So maybe the better suggestion is, “Use what I already have!” But, as my Son used to say as a teenager, “Can’t do that - it makes too much sense.” sigh Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
I 0:00 would skip the burner plastic case. Put it instead in cloth(bag) if you dont want to scratch your pot and you can put more stuff in pot. Spork, wipes, a.s.o...
Good tips, good video. Just as an addition: the camping world has more to offer than gas stoves. With an alcohol stove you can measure out the amount of fuel you're taking for any given trip relatively precise, they're sometimes even lighter than gas systems, they're available cheaply and this silent burn with a mesmerizing blue flame is just beautiful to watch in the dark. The esbit tablets you mentioned together with a potstand can be a full cooking system themselves. That's what you get in the German army. Might be good enough and simple if you just want to boil water. Just take this into consideration, try different things and find the one that suits you best.
Thanks! Alcohol stoves are definitely on my radar. I made one out of an aluminum can and had a bad experience with it during testing. However, I might make a second attempt.
@@HikingWithCam I'd advise you to try a Trangia, they're really tough and easy to use. They're so simple, you can buy a used one without any worrys. Only dangerous situation I ever had was when the flame wasn't quite snuffed out before refilling during a longer cooking session. In broad daylight it's hard to see, so now I'm holding my hand over it every time to check. I'm using gas stoves a lot, too, as it's generally overall faster and better to regulate. But Trangias are fun and calming, I have good memories with my swedish military cooking kit. :-)
That was good. That said, I still use a liquid fuel, knowing that it is heavier. But I hate the idea of carrying empty cartridges on a long trip. And waste. (There are HUGE fines, at least with CDOT for carrying refilled canisters). I am still trying to balance out cold soaks, heating up a cold soak, hot drink, washing water... One pot and a cold soak and heat up directly from the cold soak pot. (No gelato containers)!!!
STOP! Never refill 1 lb. propane bottles Video Summary: The U.S. Department of Transportation, cautions the public to never refill DOT 39 cylinders, such as the 1lb. cylinders used for camping. These types of containers were not designed to withstand the stresses of emptying and refilling. Never Refill 1 lb Propane Bottles video screen shot Never Refill 1 lb., Propane Bottles (DOT-39 cylinders)[4:21]: The public is cautioned to never refill DOT 39 cylinders, i.e., 1 lb., cylinders used for camping. DOT 39 cylinders, of any size, are strictly non-refillable. Hazmat incidents involving refilled DOT 39 cylinders have occurred, including one
The problem with the cheap backpacking canister stoves is that they sound like an F-35 taking off at full afterburner and they are not very wind resistant. However if I was starting out I would buy a cheaper stove first and then if I planned to continue hiking get a higher end model like a Soto Amicus.
Maybe I'm just not looking at it the right way, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me to cut your primary means' capability in half in the name of weight savings and then carry a backup. Each to their own, but I feel like you'd be better suited to just carry a full canister and remove the two backup fuel tablets? Edit: Not that that much weight would make a whole lot of difference either way. You'd likely be able to carry the full canister and both tabs and not even notice the difference. I was just commenting on the rationale more than anything.
Thanks. You bring up a good point. I keep my esbit tablet with my first aid kit. I don't think of it as part of my cook kit, more of a backup system. The stove could fail and I'd have the tablet as a backup to at least get one (or maybe two) boils. I've not had to use the tablet yet, but it does feel good to know it's in my pack especially when solo.
@@HikingWithCam Nothing wrong with that. if it works for you, that's all that matters. I'm just a nobody on the internet. I typically carry a stove and canister as well as a simple Bic lighter as a backup to make a fire if needed, but I only ever generically camp. I don't backpack where I have to watch every ounce, so I seldom give it much thought
Good , common sense, video. I've always carried half a packet of Heximine/ Esbit/Meta fuel tablets as the final, last resort, method to heat water for tea. Only had to use them once, when a gas stove fell apart and refused to function.
@@n1nj4l1nk Yes mate, the UK since last October, 2023. There must be tons of the stuff lurking in the garages and store cupboards of ex-forces personnel !
Alcohol stoves are lighter. I don't really like refilling canisters. Instead I bought an adaptor to fill my gas lighters from the almost empty canisters.
I prefer alcohol because the fuel is multi-purpose. Can also serve as an antiseptic and gets stubborn pine sap off of your equipment. Helps in starting a proper campfire to.
Water is the real killer for pack weight. I carry very little, max one litre and carefully plan where I can fill up enroute and towards the end of the day when I like to have at least 3 litres. But I do carry two cylinders, one used and one full. I fast boil on the full one then switch to the used one to simmer. That weight is more than offset by my water weight saving. If I need a nearly empty cylinder to speed up, I’ve found putting your hands round it warms it up enough to get it burning quicker. I have a stove with a flexible hose and when it’s nearly empty I have put it right by the burner to really speed it up! Probably not recommended…
The reason your stove is hissing out gas every time you take it on and off is because you're not fully closing down the flame control valve before taking it on and off your canister...
No it’s not that. I think it maybe something with the thread depth on the cheap stove. I guess that’s one reason for buying a more expensive stove (maybe?).
For me it’s the coating they put on the pots. It might release bits of toxic material/chemicals into your cooking if scratched. Also, in general I like to take care of my stuff as best as I can.
I take good care of my gear too. The coatings on cookwear are harmless. If they scratch off and are ingested they pass threw the body with no ill affects. People were worried about cooking on aluminum for a spell too. Thought it would poison them. Found out you would have to cook 3 meals a day on it for 15 years to have any ill affects. Scratches add character. Cheers my friend 🍻
You have hashtags ‘ultralight’ with this video?? C’mon man. If you want to be super-ultralight, ditch the stove. And the canister and all the associated extra weight.
Wow, short and sweet. I appreciate your brevity. And I'll thank you now for the Boy Scout chart of fuel canister information. Great video!!
Thanks!!!
solid video, thanks for sharing! another tip from a different video: weigh your gas canister when it's brand new and write the weight on the bottom of the canister. This way you'll hopefully never over fill the canister and burst it.
Good tip! Also don’t accidentally fill your isobutane canisters with anything else (like propane in those green coleman canisters you see at Walmart).
Thanks for sharing this with us all, good information!!!
The longer your stove is on the fuel canister (i.e. overnights) the sooner the gaskets will be compressed and need replacing. And if you cook and/or eat from/in your pot rather than just boil water then the pot will have food odors and leaving the pot out overnight especially by your tent invites critters big and small.
Good to know about the gaskets. I may do some testing to see how long it will hold. Definitely put the dirty pot in the bear bag.
I used a double wall aluminum can alcohol stove for years. Super light, very reliable and efficient, but messy and inconvenient with fuel. Newer stove are cheap and so light, I've decided to make the switch. BRS-3000T 25 grams and currently $16. I have one arriving today and I'm super hyped to try it out!
I’ve heard good things about the BRS-3000T.
having tried one BRS-like (the gas nozzle) i think that solution is quite specific and works better with heat exchanger pots. with a regular (albeit titanium) cup, a regular burner with a more spread out flame boils the water faster in same conditions. In any case that's my ocd, but nothing beats that weight of course 👍 (ok, maybe except if we count entire cook system 😁)
It is boiling water fast, is small, but loud.
I like the electrical tape tip.
wow! i'm surprised with all those enlightening tips there was no mention that screwing/unscrewing the canister tipped to the side is making the fuel loss worse ☺️ if you ever tipped the stove while burning, you definitely experienced a flame thrower effect. That's it.
plus - the tape tip - imagine having to clean the gunk if the tape shifts, yuck! i'd put a small tissue, more for padding to prevent it rattling than avoiding scratches 😁
You can put a couple of coffee filters under the canister before putting in the pot. They are lightweight and have several other uses on the trail. I agree to avoid the electrical tape and adhesive residue.
Great info! Very helpful tips!
Bro, such good gouge! Thanks!
really impressed. thanks for sharing
When heating water for food, drinks, doing dishes, spit bath, etc - it does not need to boil. That wastes (1) fuel, and (2) time waiting for the too-hot water to cool down.
Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
I agree about doing dishes, but for food and drinks, I think the water should be boiled
@@HikingWithCam, I’m English and we love our tea! Water has to be boiling!
If the water is from a safe source I only boil about three quarters of a cup then top up with cold water to save gas and it’s then the right temperature to drink.
@@HikingWithCam Boiling dies do a partial job of cleaning water. It gets bacteria and a few other live things. Boiling does not get virus, and does little to nothing about agricultural or industrial runoffs. If clean water is your goal, buy a water purifier. Same with filters.
Read the “Gear Skeptic’s” reports on purifying water. They are eye openers.
Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
Get a heat exchanger pot. Uses less fuel and is quicker to boil.
@@BrokenBackMountains G’day Broken. Right. I already have a JetBoil. So maybe the better suggestion is, “Use what I already have!” But, as my Son used to say as a teenager, “Can’t do that - it makes too much sense.” sigh
Courtesy of Half Vast Flying
That funny story at the end has set me off laughing and now I can’t stop!
Hahaha I’m laughing with you over here 🤣
Rumour has it you're still chuckling about it now 🤣
I 0:00 would skip the burner plastic case. Put it instead in cloth(bag) if you dont want to scratch your pot and you can put more stuff in pot. Spork, wipes, a.s.o...
True. I never thought about that. Thanks!
Good tips, good video.
Just as an addition: the camping world has more to offer than gas stoves. With an alcohol stove you can measure out the amount of fuel you're taking for any given trip relatively precise, they're sometimes even lighter than gas systems, they're available cheaply and this silent burn with a mesmerizing blue flame is just beautiful to watch in the dark.
The esbit tablets you mentioned together with a potstand can be a full cooking system themselves. That's what you get in the German army. Might be good enough and simple if you just want to boil water.
Just take this into consideration, try different things and find the one that suits you best.
Thanks! Alcohol stoves are definitely on my radar. I made one out of an aluminum can and had a bad experience with it during testing. However, I might make a second attempt.
@@HikingWithCam I'd advise you to try a Trangia, they're really tough and easy to use. They're so simple, you can buy a used one without any worrys.
Only dangerous situation I ever had was when the flame wasn't quite snuffed out before refilling during a longer cooking session. In broad daylight it's hard to see, so now I'm holding my hand over it every time to check.
I'm using gas stoves a lot, too, as it's generally overall faster and better to regulate. But Trangias are fun and calming, I have good memories with my swedish military cooking kit. :-)
Boy Scout Idea,
Test how much gloss there is taking on and off the stove 10 and 30 times from both full and half full?
Add to chart. 📊?
This was great. Love that chart too.
Thanks!
Congratulations on the success of this video. I'm glad you are getting the attention you deserve!
@WallowaHikes Thanks!
That was good.
That said, I still use a liquid fuel, knowing that it is heavier. But I hate the idea of carrying empty cartridges on a long trip. And waste. (There are HUGE fines, at least with CDOT for carrying refilled canisters). I am still trying to balance out cold soaks, heating up a cold soak, hot drink, washing water... One pot and a cold soak and heat up directly from the cold soak pot. (No gelato containers)!!!
Fines with CDOT? The department of transportation?
@@HikingWithCam yep. Looked it up.
STOP! Never refill 1 lb. propane bottles
Video
Summary: The U.S. Department of Transportation, cautions the public to never refill DOT 39 cylinders, such as the 1lb. cylinders used for camping. These types of containers were not designed to withstand the stresses of emptying and refilling.
Never Refill 1 lb Propane Bottles video screen shot
Never Refill 1 lb., Propane Bottles (DOT-39 cylinders)[4:21]:
The public is cautioned to never refill DOT 39 cylinders, i.e., 1 lb., cylinders used for camping. DOT 39 cylinders, of any size, are strictly non-refillable. Hazmat incidents involving refilled DOT 39 cylinders have occurred, including one
Up to 500,000 dollar fine and five years
@jimbrown8313 Wow
Awesome tips
I use a bicycle brake disc so i can use a bigger diameter or smaller pot or pan for stability
interesting!
The problem with the cheap backpacking canister stoves is that they sound like an F-35 taking off at full afterburner and they are not very wind resistant. However if I was starting out I would buy a cheaper stove first and then if I planned to continue hiking get a higher end model like a Soto Amicus.
I totally agree!
Short, concise, and helpful. Good advice for sure. Keep the vids coming!
Thanks!
great content and good vid. thank you.
Thanks!
Maybe I'm just not looking at it the right way, but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me to cut your primary means' capability in half in the name of weight savings and then carry a backup. Each to their own, but I feel like you'd be better suited to just carry a full canister and remove the two backup fuel tablets?
Edit: Not that that much weight would make a whole lot of difference either way. You'd likely be able to carry the full canister and both tabs and not even notice the difference. I was just commenting on the rationale more than anything.
Thanks. You bring up a good point. I keep my esbit tablet with my first aid kit. I don't think of it as part of my cook kit, more of a backup system. The stove could fail and I'd have the tablet as a backup to at least get one (or maybe two) boils. I've not had to use the tablet yet, but it does feel good to know it's in my pack especially when solo.
@@HikingWithCam Nothing wrong with that. if it works for you, that's all that matters. I'm just a nobody on the internet. I typically carry a stove and canister as well as a simple Bic lighter as a backup to make a fire if needed, but I only ever generically camp. I don't backpack where I have to watch every ounce, so I seldom give it much thought
Good , common sense, video. I've always carried half a packet of Heximine/ Esbit/Meta fuel tablets as the final, last resort, method to heat water for tea.
Only had to use them once, when a gas stove fell apart and refused to function.
@@clivedunning4317hexamine is illegal where I live now 😡
@@n1nj4l1nk Yes mate, the UK since last October, 2023. There must be tons of the stuff lurking in the garages and store cupboards of ex-forces personnel !
Good job!
Thank you!
Nice information
Thanks!
Great video! Just subscribed
Thanks for the sub!
@@HikingWithCam Looking forward to watching your channel grow
@@NealBenson Thank you sir!
Alcohol stoves are lighter.
I don't really like refilling canisters. Instead I bought an adaptor to fill my gas lighters from the almost empty canisters.
I prefer alcohol because the fuel is multi-purpose. Can also serve as an antiseptic and gets stubborn pine sap off of your equipment. Helps in starting a proper campfire to.
Your tempting me to try an alcohol stove
@@HikingWithCamTry them. I use both according to where I'm going etc.Alcohol stoves are a bit more laid back😂
Water is the real killer for pack weight. I carry very little, max one litre and carefully plan where I can fill up enroute and towards the end of the day when I like to have at least 3 litres.
But I do carry two cylinders, one used and one full. I fast boil on the full one then switch to the used one to simmer. That weight is more than offset by my water weight saving.
If I need a nearly empty cylinder to speed up, I’ve found putting your hands round it warms it up enough to get it burning quicker.
I have a stove with a flexible hose and when it’s nearly empty I have put it right by the burner to really speed it up! Probably not recommended…
That’s exactly how much water I carry (1L). I double it if camping in a spot with no water access
My redundant stove is a titanium twig stove.
Not a bad idea. How much does it weigh? I suppose one downside is if it's been raining.
@@HikingWithCam I've never weighed it not much. I can get even wet twigs burning with a good homemade firestarter.
The reason your stove is hissing out gas every time you take it on and off is because you're not fully closing down the flame control valve before taking it on and off your canister...
No it’s not that. I think it maybe something with the thread depth on the cheap stove. I guess that’s one reason for buying a more expensive stove (maybe?).
Why are people so worried about scratching their pots? I used to clean my pots with sand. Lol
For me it’s the coating they put on the pots. It might release bits of toxic material/chemicals into your cooking if scratched. Also, in general I like to take care of my stuff as best as I can.
I take good care of my gear too. The coatings on cookwear are harmless. If they scratch off and are ingested they pass threw the body with no ill affects. People were worried about cooking on aluminum for a spell too. Thought it would poison them. Found out you would have to cook 3 meals a day on it for 15 years to have any ill affects. Scratches add character. Cheers my friend 🍻
I left my stove, shoveled overnight, and it ran out of fuel by the next morning.
Oh shoot! You definitely want to make sure the valve is closed and that it's not leaking fuel
You have hashtags ‘ultralight’ with this video?? C’mon man. If you want to be super-ultralight, ditch the stove. And the canister and all the associated extra weight.
I have to have my hot coffee! I will take your advise with ditching the stove container however.
Boycot Amazon
If the seal on your cheap Amazon stove was to fail during the night you could definitely die from the gas escaping into the tent.
You’re giving me one more thing to worry about at night?!
😂
@@HikingWithCam it sounds extreme but apparently this happens
Booring