How did Michael know it was Hyman Roth?| Michael Corleone VS Hyman Roth PART 2
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 พ.ค. 2024
- Michael Corleone’s Biggest Enemy | Michael Corleone VS Hyman Roth PART 2🌹
IN THIS VIDEO🔥 ...
We continue unravelling the masterful game Roth and Michael we're playing on each other. We analysed all the events and circumstances that led up to Michael taking on his biggest and most powerful enemy. However, by the end we left you with more questions than answers. So, let’s continue from where we left off.
In the Godfather II, we are reintroduced to Don Michael Corleone, in the middle of making the biggest deal the criminal underworld had ever seen, propelling the Corleone family to both gain legitimacy but at the same time an enormous amount of power and influence. Michael was partnering with known mob associate, Hyman Roth, renowned for his business acumen and money making skills for the mafia, they were about to make the biggest deal in mafia history. However, as we all know by now, Roth had other intentions behind this deal.
As you may recall, Michael is now certain that it was Roth who was scheming to destroy the Corleone Family and completely take over. However, Michael is now left with the mystery of why is Roth doing all this? who was the traitor within the family? And how did Roth manage to play such a brilliant deception on him without him realising?
Roth understood he wasn’t with an average gangster or hoodlum, he understood he was dealing with Don Michael Corleone, son of the notorious Don Vito Corleone, who he had worked alongside and learnt from for years. Roth himself was an extremely intelligent man and possessed an extreme skill of vigilance and foresight, to always be 10 moves ahead of everyone.
From the very beginning Michael never completely trusted Hyman Roth, however Michaels ambition and even admiration for Roth, blinded him from the fact that he was conspiring against him. After the assassination attempt at his home, there were 2 major suspects.
It's possible at that he didn’t know for sure, and was playing both Roth and Pentangeli , however as we discussed in part 1, He comes to the conclusion that Frankie had no interest or ambition to take him out, therefore leaving Roth as the main suspect. So, he knew it was Roth by the process of elimination. His suspicions were confirmed after he went to Cuba.
Unknown to Michael, Roth was scheming to have him killed to avenge the death of Moe Greene, his longtime friend. Roth manipulated Michael's brother Fredo into going behind his back, unwittingly providing vital information, that was used to arrange an attempt on Michael's life, which nearly succeeds. Roth also attempted to murder Pentangeli, while making him think that Michael was to blame, to later have him testify against him.
You will Find Out:
What Roth's Entire Plan Really Was and What Michael was Thinking?
How Michael somehow manages to survive Roth's Numerous attempts
Roth's Confession
Roths Final Move: The Senate Hearings
Who Opened the drapes?
📸 𝐉𝐨𝐢𝐧 𝐔𝐬 𝐎𝐧 𝐈𝐧𝐬𝐭𝐚 @𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐂𝐮𝐥𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐞𝐌𝐚𝐟𝐢𝐚
/ theculturemafia
𝐓𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐤 𝐘𝐨𝐮 𝐅𝐨𝐫 𝐖𝐚𝐭𝐜𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠
0:00 Recap
1:25 The Rosato Brothers
3:52 Michael Plans His Move
4:45 Roth’s Confession
6:52 Michael’s Reaction
8:04 Michael Makes His Move…
8:58 Roth’s Final Move
10:36 Frankie Five Angels
11:11 Michael Outshines The Master
11:30 Who Opened the Drapes?
12:50 Summary
_________________________________________________________________
All materials in these videos are used for educational purposes and fall within the guidelines of fair use. No copyright infringement intended. If you are or represent the copyright owner of materials used in this video and have a problem with the use of said material, please send me an email and we can work it out.
_________________________________________________________________
#TheGodfather #Mafia #AlPacino
Watch Part 1 Here 🔥
th-cam.com/video/NKfxKfES4dc/w-d-xo.html
Done already
I concur. What is the name of the music used in the video
A deeper layer question was: did Roth part of Barzini's plot?
Give me the name of music in the background. Its driving me crazy
@@TenkabitoShien i too wanna knw
The great thing about reading the book before you see the movie, is many of these questions are answered. Also Albert Neri's back story, Why Rocco was promoted etc. I remember having to explain the movie to my date because it was kind of confusing if you dont know the back stories. They tried to fit so much into that first movie. I think Part 2 is the best of the bunch because we have some background on all the players. This was one of those books I started in the afternoon and ended up reading until 4am when my Mother came by and screamed at me that it was a school night. I didnt care, the book was that good.
I had the same with the godfather book, flew through the pages. The Sicilian is also very good
Is the 2nd movie in the first book, or is there another? I've started reading it and it's solid so far
@@howaboutno4002 the first book includes the story of part 1 and 2. the sicilian is like a spinoff, its about a sicilian guy but he has interactions with Michael in exile in sicily, highly recommend.
@@paramocro7317 ah ok, I'll definitely check it out then. Cheers man
@@howaboutno4002 👍🏻👍🏻
It's been 49 years since the movie was released, and you're still analysing it. What a classic cut
I saw it 50 years after it came out and it’s the best movie I’ve seen
The movie works on many levels: Power , family , immigrant experience and assimilation, corruption, greed, envy, and the relationship between the underworld and “regular “ society.
@@guccidonbuzzflightyear4440you're lucky, today's movies are so bad, it'd be a disgrace to go to a cinema
Roth is probably one of the most cunning villains in history. He’s a billionaire, but lives in a $10,000 1,000 square foot home in North Miami, probably even paying a mortgage on it. He appears to be fatherly and warm-hearted, but once they’re in Cuba, he appears to be cold and shady one minute, then friendly the next. And when Michael crosses the line asking him about Frankie, he reveals his true self, a ruthless businessman. Then he pretends to be weak and dying so Michael’s bodyguard can attempt an assassination on him and have him killed, then the senate committee hearings having Michael set up. Roth was just as smart and cunning, but at the end, he had it coming to him, Lee Harvey Oswald style!
This movie is like a chess game by using battle strategies.
Exactly, the pawns are usually the 1st to be eliminated... but Fredo was able to make it to the end
@@natesepnefski great point
To me it felt like a spy movie with multiple layers of deception
One of the the most memorable lines in Godfather 2 occurs when Michael dismisses the argument that Roth is invincible:
“If anything in this life is certain, if history has taught us anything, it is that you can kill anyone.” Julius Caesar, JFK, etc.
JFK hadn't died yet in the movie's timeline, though
That line was a premonition. The events of the movie took place around 1958-1960. Recall near the end of the movie during the press conference with Hyman Roth that Roth returned to the United States so that he could vote in the upcoming presidential election (meaning Kennedy vs Nixon in 1960). That was a crooked election, with the mob having a significant role in getting JFK elected. They thought they owned him. They later felt he betrayed them. We all know what happened to him in Dallas, and the mob played a big role.
Watch “Everything is a rich man’s trick”...the JFK assassination runs deep
@@GaryMSanchez Everyone knows it was aliens. Do your research!
To me, that line would be a candidate for the title of “Truer words were never spoken”.
Makes you wonder if part of Fredo’s motivation was also Moe Green. Remembering the hotel room scheme, Fredo seemed more loyal to him than his family. Maybe that was how Hyman was able to get in his ear to begin with. Roth was Wiley but Michael was ruthless.
Love these videos!
Fredo got involved because he was angry about the killing of Moe Greene???? Come on, man. Not even logical.
Love Michael!
@@bobj6515 He said 'part' of Fredo's motivation, as in a piece, not the entire reason. Reading comprehension, bubba!
Fredo thought he join team Roth he would finally get to rule the family. Roth play him like a harp from hell. Roth would made mincemeat out Fredo ending the Corleone family for good once and for all.
Hi there. That's right, I forgot about Fredo and his sticking up for Mo Green and being angry and resentful about it. Made Fredo an easy mark for Roth's schemes.! Ah ha!
Trivia :
During Roth's birthday party, the pattern on his shirt changes. Due to weather difficulties, the two minute scene took over a week to shoot and the original shirt was lost at some point. The production designer attempted to recreate it by drawing an approximation of the pattern onto a plain shirt, but it didn't quite match.
Thanks for ruining the entire trilogy for me!
You can see the 'stop & go' in the magic marker around his collar.
It also kills me that *everyone's* suit is wrinkled. Throughout the movie.
Hyman Roth's Moe Green speech is such a fine acting tour de force by Lee Strasberg who was a founder, major player and tutor at the Actors' Studio in NYC - a truly remarkable performance, so full of depth and subtlety - It's not hard to see why he became such an influential mentor to a whole generation of Hollywood's finest actors and actresses - He should have got the Best Supporting Actor Oscar and though he was nominated, it went to Robert de Nero (one of his students !!) for his performance as the young Vito Corleone - a great performance for sure - but for me Lee Strasberg's was the finest - A truly remarkable man and a great actor, creator and teacher...
He played his role very good no doubt about it but Deniros role was to me much better. I mean they both played the role geat but Deneros part was just a more telling revealing part of the movie not just part 2 but answered a lot we needed to know about 1 and even before. I always said Denerios role was more like godfather 1 the first movie was 2 and Hyman Roths role was part 3 it brought them both full circle so in my opinion Deneros role just much more than stasberg
@@MikeSmith-cn6ub His name is Robert DeNiro. Get it right, guys. Please.
The Father Of The Method
The single most heartbreaking scene is Michael talking to his mom trying to reconcile the fact that he is contemplating killing his brother. She says to him that his question makes no sense. How can you lose family, you can't lose family 😔
He says times are changing
I am not sure if Michael ever did mention that to his mother. What he did say to one of his bodyguards, who got higher up was; to not harm Fredo while his mother was still alive.
@@RizwanAnwarAKAFLYTIGER Yes he does
@philsarkol6443 Rewatch the movie...I believe it's on tubi and/or pluto right now. Killing his brother is something he was torn over hence the scene in Godfather III. After you rewatch the scene you should gain new insight
@@johnnyblast326 Ok ..I'm gonna look up that scene!
I've watched this movie over 20 times, watching these videos makes me want to watch it again.
Watched it for the first time last week now im banging my head on the wall at how i missed all of this lol. Need to watch again for sureee
A great pity about Part II was that they cut out the scene of Hyman Roth being introduced to Don Corleone. This scene, which only appeared in The Godfather Saga, would have given the much essential link between the Vito era and the Michael era in the movie.
He brought Pentagili's to the hearing because Frankie respected his brother and looked up to him. His brother was old school mafia but didn't become a boss because he wanted a simpler life. Michael wasn't going to hurt his brother...Mike simply brought his brother to make Frank remember omerta
Yep. Exactly.
I mean… could be a little of both. That’s honestly part of the greatness of the film.
Yes it was Also a reminer to him he took a blood oath.
@@dillonwalshpvd Nah. No one becomes part of the Italian mafia and lives to be as old as Frankie's brother and survive by being terrified to the point that you hop on a plane because you're afraid of something. Also, his brother couldn't have been that scared if he had time to pack his hat. Dummie.
Frankie Five Angels
"I want all of you to enjoy your cake, so...enjoy!"
I’d have my own brother whacked for a slice of that cake, so long as everyone has had a chance to see the cake first.
If I was there, I would’ve said “got any chocolate fudge cake”, wonder what would happen after?
so... enjoyee
La chaim
Yes but he didn't want him killed. Why tell him Michael corleone says hi? And when the cop came in he could have been killed by the first guy he walks by.
Roth was behind the hit on Pentangeli 100%
Well... Yeah. They said it in the movie. "Roth played this one beautifully".
I thought it immediately when the hit man said "Michael Corleone says hello"... I don't think a Corleone button man would be that dumb.
Roth was behind the 2008 subprime mortgage crisis
@______ that’s anti Semitic
@@avarmauk that’s anti Semitic
The reason for Roth wanting to kill Michael was in part about avenging the death of Mo Green. However Fredo mentioned Johnnie Ola said Michael was being ‘tough on the negotiations’. It is possible Roth viewed Michael in the way of his business interests and put out the hit on him. It could have been a combination of both, where Michael’s being tough on the negotiations was the last straw and Roth decided it was time for Michael to go. Fredo was the weak link in the chain and if Michael was killed it would lead to Fredo being the next Don. Fredo would be easy to manipulate and Roth could then control the Corleones while expanding his business empire. That might have also why Michael had Fredo killed. Not only because of his betrayal but also Fredo being the perpetual weak link, were other families would want Michael dead so they could put Fredo in their. Michael was in some respects viewed as ‘in the way’ of their plans and so long as he was in charge the Corleones would remain strong. Roth basically wanted to get him out of the way for personal and business reasons.
@Emperor AlHasan Don't compare Fredo with Sonny, Fredo couldn't lace Sonny's boots. Even Michael respected Sonny, Clemenza and Tessio respected him, inspite of Clemenza being their Godfather! Sonny was a phenomenal war general! His only weakness was his instinctive hot-headed nature and temper, why do you think he was assassinated. Because he was taking on all four families by himself and winning! Sonny would have been a bad Don, but he was a tremendous underboss. Just replace Fredo with Sonny in the scene where Vito is shot, Sonny's mere presence would have guaranteed that the assassins would never make an attempt, Sonny was very feared...
@Emperor AlHasan That is true. I think also Barzini had Sonny killed thinking that Fredo would be put in charge, as Don Vito was basically semi-retired. However, Michael had gone through a change of heart about the family business and Don Vito chose Michael instead to take over as Don. Both Barzini and Roth had a similar analysis of getting rid of the current, stronger Don's - both Sonny and then Michael - and put Fredo in there instead. The difference was Barzini never got to Fredo, but Roth did. He had already taken Fredo out for a test drive and realized he would be easy to manipulate. Probably was why Roth went ahead with the assassination plan against Michael.
Agree with you. In fact I believe that Michael being in the way of negotiations was the major reason for taking him out. The whole point of the "This is the business we've chosen" speech is to say, "I could have taken it personally that you killed my best friend, but I didn't." Fredo didn't open the blinds or kill the hitmen. no.1, It was totally out of character for him to have those kinds of balls. Even out of jealousy. No.2, When he received the phone call late at night from Johnny Ola, he clearly indicates that he was blindsided and knew nothing of a hit. It had to be Rocco. As head of security he would have raised no suspicion walking into Michael's bedroom in order to open the drapes. Michael knew this and sent him on a suicide mission.
@Emperor AlHasan That's unfair because Sonny is not Fredo and Vito was never put in a situation where a family member betrayed him... what if Fredo had something to do with Vito being hit in Pt. 1? What do you think Vito would do, knowing his own son tried to have him taken out? Son or not, you got to go...
@Emperor AlHasan If Michael was to save Fredo or keep him alive, he would've had to give up the family business and go completely legitimate. No more gangster shit. Killing Fredo was his only choice in order to keep the empire going, as Fredo would've continued to be a threat. Fredo's ambition was more important than his being a Corleone and submitting to his "kid brother." He never respected Micheal, not like he needed to as the don, because he always coveted his position.. His resentment consumed him. Michael only followed the logic. Taking emotion out of it, killing Fredo was a no-brainer.
I always figured Rocco opened the drapes or had them opened. That's why he was sent on a suicide mission to kill Roth at the airport. To save his family maybe, like Pantangeli
That makes a lot of sense. Never thought about that. If that is the case, it definitely should have been left in. Rocco was a secondary but yet important character from the start (more present in the book)
The only flaw in Godfather 2 was Frank Pentangeli who was basically created as a character because they couldn't agree terms with the actor who played Clemenza. In the original script it was Clemenza who was flipped and was going to testify against Michael. Imagine how much more powerful the story would have been had they been able to keep to the original script. It changes everything.
This makes sense as I have also read the books. It felt weird watching it unfold in the movie because you get the feeling that Clamenza was Pantangeli
@@darkemperor418 What books? Books that came after Godfather II?
Not sure how it changes much of anything. Pentangeli was a great addition. The plot remains the same...holes and all.
I know that he's created to fill in for Clemenza, whom I loved as a character. But I gotta say, I love Pentangeli. I think he adds something very real to the story and that the performance is outstanding.
As someone who pours over the movies for things that weren’t shown or were left unmentioned, I love this channel.
The Panragelli attempted murder wasnt real. They were dragging him to a booth which made no sense. Remember how Luca died in part 1. You just kill right there. It was more of a kidnapping and locking him in a booth. Roth played it perfectly is what Tom Hagen said.
Your right, they would have locked the doors of the bar if this was a legitimate attempt to kill him. I never realised it was a fake attempt to kill him until I watched this video. Designed to make Frankie hear Michael's name and survive then go against the Corleones. That makes the movie even better than what I thought. Part one and especially two have to be the most rewatchable films in history.
@@mrmeerkat1096 Yeah they made Frank think Michael tried to kill him and Frank must have been left thinking that Michael only said it was Roth to lure him in even though he hadn't.
@@mrmeerkat1096 i agree about the fake killing attempt but what about this from imdb trivia ?
Danny Aiello's line, "Michael Corleone says hello", was completely ad-libbed. Francis Ford Coppola loved it and asked him to do it again in the retakes. Aiello later claimed (on Gilbert Gottfried's podcast) that, due to being nervous about working with Coppola, he didn't hear himself when he said the line and, to this day, has no idea why he said it.
@@Rick_Todd Great find. Seems the hit was real and the cop was pure coincidence...thus allowing the future betrayal testimony hearing to play out...Too many moving parts like the cop being on Roth's payroll or faking a hit etc. The mob doesn't start strangling someone only to not kill them.
Pentangelli*
When I first saw "the Godfather 2" around the age of 12 or 13, I quite easily understood the part where Fredo "spilled his beans" in Cuba and Michael then realizing that he was the traitor inside the "Family". However, it took me several years to realize what Fredo meant about seeing "Superman" (at the sex show) and talking about "seeing is believing".
Which is what? Wondering if I missed something
@@MJCampbellviking6 dude had a big schlong😂
lol
What did he mean with seeing superman?
@@helderboymh probably something to do with banging cocktail waitresses two at a time
Great upload. I remember during the summer my mother and I would watch all the godfather movies in a day. We started early and ended late. Such great story telling!
It really is a masterpiece 👌💎
All these years and all the times I've seen this film, I never realized that was Danny Aiello! 😮😮😮😮
Just did the same thing
I was thinking it was Michael’s son who opened the drapes. He was close to Fredo and he had left the drawing for Michael.
Wow. So they told him to open the curtains before bed. That is the best explination yet in my opinion. I do not feel a maid in the top Gangster HQ would commit suicide like that. It was the kid. Only thing that actually makes sense
Bingo!
There's a Part II deleted scene where after the hearing the scene where Michael explains to Kay why Frank's brother Vincenzo was there and hints that if Frank testified Vincenzo would have to kill his wife and kids.
I like how Coppola showed that Roth and Micheal were watching each other at that meeting, subtly.💯
This was beautifully executed, kudos to you sir. I like how you brought out the information and how detailed you made your points. Everytime I watch part 1 or part 2 I always learn something new.
I've read that the line spoken by Pentangelli's would-be assasin was ad-libbed by the actor and the director like it and kept it in the film. In the book, the killer that Michael had sent to kill Appolonia's murderer Fabrizio, who had fled Sicily and was running a pizzeria in Buffalo, told him "Michael Corleone sends his regards" right before killing him. So I suppose that's where the line came from. In any case, that line confused me about what was going on in Godfather II for years.
Was going to write the same thing. That's why it's confused so many people for so long and that some think Michael really did try to have Frank killed.
Since we know (even before knowing that tidbit about the ad-lib) that Michael didn't, I always 'read' it as Roth and the Rosato Bros. wanting to completely destroy Frank's faith in family, even as they were killing him.
Thanks for this explanation. It makes that part of The Godfather series comprehensible. There's always the problem of having left too much fall onto the floor of the cutting room in order to make things mysterious and in order to get a certain pace in the movie. It is called 'rhythm' and is the most difficult thing to do in movies.
Michael knew Fredo wasn't the sharpest and wouldn't normally have trusted him with that amount of money. He suspected Fredo and knew he would tell whoever was he was spying for. So when Roth mentioned that he suspected Fredo had brought a suitcase of money that did it for Michael.
Godfather: keep your friends close and your enemies closer Michael... that's how he knew. No names need to be mentioned.
great video. Even after so many times rewatching this masterpiece, there´s little details that go unnoticed! appreciate it
Rocco opened the damn drapes. That’s why Michael sent him on that suicide mission at the end.
What drapes he opened in what scene?
@@altair227 when the hitmen shot at Michael and his wife at the start
I’ve always wondered who opened the drapes! I didn’t think it was Fredo directly. What makes you think it was Rocco? He seemed pretty loyal. Was it the deaths of the hitmen on the property maybe?
@@JCRoberts97 oh thanks for clearing that up.
@JR the Gent There's no way of knowing whether Rocco opened the drapes.
It could be argued that the fact Rocco agreed to go on a suicide mission proved his loyalty to the Corleone Family and makes it impossible that he would ever betray Michael.
It's never explained what information Fredo gave to Johnny Ola that would close the deal Michael was negotiating and how that could be used in the assassination attempt.
I don't see how there can possibly be a link between information regarding negotiations and an assassination attempt.
There's a lot of ambiguity in The Godfather Part II.
Michael knew it was Hyman Roth when Michael went to Cuba to finalize a hotel deal and saw the rebels in action. At the nightclub with the live sex act, fredo accidentally blurted out that Johnny Ola told him about this club, after fredo denied knowing Ola to his brother Michael earlier in the trip.
Facts
BINGO
Michael already knew that, he told Frankie that was Roth, however he confirmed it when Fredo talked in the nightclub..
The first time I saw the scene where Fredo does that I couldn’t stop saying “WHAT AN IDIOT!”
That's my take as well. Earlier when Roth's friend Johnny Ola is introduced to Fredo he says "We never met". Then later at the strip bar Fredo says "Johnny Ola told me about this place" and Michael gets a look. Also, we know that Hyman Roth was based on real-life gangster Meyer Lansky but Johnny Ola was based on a partner of Lansky's named Vincent Alo, whose name they spelled backwards in the movie. Johnny Ola was played by a much younger Dominic Chianese who at the time looked a lot like the real Alo and is better known for playing Uncle Junior in The Sopranos.
Oh my god! Part one is why I subscribed!!
This was all VERY well done! Commentary, edited clips, etc. Thank you!
Wow...thank you for these well-thought-out scenarios. They all seem valid. 👏👏👏
Amazing breakdown, like always
“It’s Roth. He played this one perfectly, Michael.”
Is how I’m guessing Tom Hagen felt about the chance that a cop 👮♀️ actually happened to be checking in on the place at precisely that moment.
Roth sent the cop.
luck of the Irish.
I love your videos. This channel describes all the minute and intricate details in the movie that you would fail to notice or deduce when you watch the movie.
You should make a video on how to improve The Godfather part III
Hop in a time machine and burn the original master reel?
Not doing it
Just recast Sophia copolla, Andy Garcia and the Italian guy that does the voice of Tony in the Simpsons. Historywise the movie was good
There’s no possible way to make it better.
Coppola should have offered more money to Winona Ryder. The movie still would have sucked but maybe she wouldn't have had to resort to being a serial shoplifter.
11:27 it would be nice to see the brother from Italy explanation
The brother was use as a tool to keep Pantangili from ratting out Michael. The understanding, you talk, we kill your brother.
@@purplehaze5078 I knew that but the brother seems like he had judgemental look on his face like I can't beliave you turned into rat
@@vetiwearerdaimyo1592 The book tells so much more than the movie can show. Plus its written in one linear timeline. Did you get the chance to read it?
@@purplehaze5078
The brother is ashamed of frank for breaking his oath to the mafia. Like the line goes, it's between the brothers.....
@@purplehaze5078 not sure bout that. The brother did not seem to be there against his will, which one would expect from someone who is being, somehow, threatened. He did not seem to fear for his life or show Frank that he (the brother) was at risk, but he rather was judgmental towards Frank.
I just found your channel, instantly subcribed! I love the godfather trilogy! I'd also love to see a video about Frank's brother in the Senate hearing! Great content ! Keep up the great work! Thanks!
Thanks, Really Appreciate it 🙌 I'll definitely be working on it soon...
Excellent summary and explanation. Thanks, adds to my understanding of this masterpiece. Must read the book again!
Excellent program, informative and I learned a lot, thanks.
“Michael Corleone says hello”
Was ad libbed by Danny Aeillo. Coppola just left it in. This is well documented.
Then the whole thing makes even less sense.
Yea this line is so confusing to the plot tho. If you're planning on killing Frankie why lie? As a viewer that watched this movie 10 times at least I was always confused who ordered this hit. My gut told me Roth but that line always held me up
@@frankl3518 That is just Roth covering all the angles. If the hit failed, he would still have something to make work to his advantage.
Spike Lee must have had a fit.... loved Danny A with Bruce W. in Hudson Hawk....
I think that's irrelevant in the sense that Coppola kept it in. So, ad lib or not, it fitted the plot perfectly, otherwise it would have been cut.
These are great videos! Thank you very much for making them!!!
You're very welcome! Still got ALOT more coming🤯
Man whoever you are I love you. Keep these coming. You a have my attention 100%. Wooow
👏👏👏👏👏😊
What you've overlooking is the money. In addition to the storytellers eventually just telling us this later in the film, it's also widely accepted that Hyman Roth is a stand-in for Meyer Lansky. What everyone needs to know about Meyer Lansky is that he ended going broke in Cuba. Fidel Castro's communist revolution left Lansky/Roth financially ruined.
I believe Roth did recognize that the communist guerillas were going to be victorious in Cuba eventually. They'd gained too much momentum both militarily, and politically in Cuba by this time. Roth had been involved in Cuba longer than anyone else, and he was too sharp and wise to not recognize his days on the island were numbered. He knew he would be destitute afterwards, so he would've needed a substantial infusion of cash to get him through after the red fist finally comes down on him, and his string of hotels & casinos in Havana.
This is why he kept pestering Michael about the money so much. He didn't just want to kill Michael to take revenge on Moe Greene- he wasn't actually that sentimental about him. He's still a cruel, selfish gangster at the end of the day, and Moe Greene had been dead for several years at this point. No, Roth probably had read the tea leaves in Havana long before everyone else did, so he needed a fallback position. In other words, he needed Michael's million dollar suitcase first. It was likely the true motivator and lynchpin holding it all together.
Hyman Roth didn't necessarily 'need' to avenge his old friend Moe Greene. But he absolutely would've needed Michael's money to help stabilize him back home in America. He's going to kill him anyway, right? Thus, it's of paramount importance that he commandeer Michael's money first since he believes he's going to succeed in either killing or imprisoning him.
Roth needed that money for the day his Cuban house of cards came tumbling down, and he knew that day was swiftly approaching.
Lest there be a misunderstanding of Cuban history, the overthrow was not a popular uprising. The Cuban Army had far greater resources than Castro, Cienfuegos, etc. The Army simply overestimated Castro's numbers and backed down.
Castro's bluff was an enormous gamble that worked. It didn't help that government policy did little to motivate the Cuban people to care who was actually in charge. Once Castro was addressing people from the capitol, his authority to do so was implicit; he augmented his power from there.
Meyer lansky died a natural death though
@@Cfish613 was it a heart attack
I always thought part of the reason Michael didn't want to hand over the cash right away is because of the political situation at the time. He was obviously paying attention and no doubt it played into his suspicions of Roth's intentions.
Roth wanted revenge and he didn’t respect Michael he underestimated Michael
"So Fredo, it would really help us close the deal with Mike if you opened the drapes in his room".
no way this conversation wen't down like this. Either Fredo knew it was a hit or he was not the one to open the drapes
Rocco opened the drapes... he was the other traitor...
@@KtotheG Johnny Ola was there for the party, was he not? Maybe he did it ? But then again I doubt he stayed for the night
@@SgtThiel Fredo wanted to open them, but Rocco wouldn't let him. I overheard him tell Rocco, "I'm smaht... I can do things... I'm not dumb, like everybody says." Rocco just laughed and then he proceeded to open the drapes.
@@KtotheG was that in the book? I don't remember that part of the movie
Fredo set Micheal up
You got me wanting to watch it again
i been waiting for this part !!!!!!!! yes !!!!! Thank you !
Let me know what you think?
Well done. You can add that Roth turned Fredo because Fredo was weak, but also because Fredo was the source of Greens problems with the Corleons. In the end Roth proved to Michael the Fredo isnt worth it and Green shouldn't have been killed because of him. In the end Roth forced Michaels hand to kill Fredo, just as Fredo forced Michael to have to deal with Green.
hadn't thought of this exact thing. Outstanding stuff here
So many excellent comments, replies and theories...that's part of what makes this movie so damn GREAT!
Your videos are pure gold 👌🏻 Thanks for the work!
Glad you like them 🔥
These explanations are very entertaining. Thank you. 👍
Before watching this video thought I'd share my thoughts. Michael suspected both Roth and Frank P as probable suspects as demonstrated by the fact that he visited both of them and they gave him the answer- Roth basically told him his prime motive was related to revenge for the Moe Green hit and telling him Frank P. was "small potatoes" meaning he was not a significant player in the current gambit. "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer" Mike wanted Roth to think at all costs that he didn't suspect him and they were still friends and partners. Roth was brilliant though- when they hit Frank P. in NYC Frank was told it was Mike that ordered the hit- when it was Roth. This resulted in Frank turning on the Corleone family with the Feds which made live very difficult for the Don.
Both of these video's were phenomenal. I just like to add that if you listen to Roth, Moe Green was basically his Protege! (He said "He was younger than me & looked up to me). I'm just a little confused on how you guys kept going back & forth on misspelling Michael's name (Micheal). 🤷🏽♂️😎
Thank You for all this, liked and subbed!
Terrific nuance and performance. Thanks for the attention to detail and highlights
I've always thought the 'hit' on Frankie was entirely orchestrated by Roth - the cop walking in, everything - so that Frankie would survive and believe Michael bretrayed him. This wouls push Frankie into betraying the Michael at the hearing.
This worked perfectly until Michael used the brother to stop Frankie at the last minute.
In the conversation earlier between Michael and Roth Roth, very very unusually got mad and let himself mention Moe Green. This was because when Michael asked him who had Pentangeli killed Roth knew that Michael already knew it was Roth himself so he (Michael) was taking Roth for a fool. Roth would also have known then that Frankie was alive (in accordance with his plan). It would appear - I'm not sure - that at that time Michael thought Frankie was dead.
Of course Michael's question may have been deliberately provocative to see whether Roth would get angry at the insult to his intelligence and give something away, and he did - his personal hatred of Michael because Michael had Moe killed.
That was the best episode yet!
🙌🔥
Really enjoying these video essays, where is the background music from?
Keep these coming!
Awww, this , is so good about to watch this second part
Most men's biggest enemy : hymen. Michael's biggest enemy : Hyman.
Underrated comment 😂
Needed a dictionary to give you a thumbs up here, my friend.
@@poindexterflex3528 wow
Hyman was tight, but Michael was able to break free...
9 months waiting to get out, the rest of your life trying to get back in
12:07 "But this implies that he had something to do with it, therefore he definitely was involved." Masterful use of logic🤣
THANK YOU for this detailed explanation. I could never figure it out!
Seen a couple of these great synopses so far, very well done.
This analysis assumes that the this was screenwriter’s intention from the beginning. It is just possible that all this ambiguity was deliberate, in the manner of Hitchcock. Witness: we’re discussing it 50 years after the fact.
Or that it was an oversight by the screenwriter.
@@danielrichmond1530 that's a lot of oversights.
David, I think you summarized it correctly. These are fictional characters, not true life people, where we can easily look up their life histories and sometimes motives. So, other than what the screenwriters wrote into the script, we can only surmise the reasons and intentions behind the scenes.
@@robertmarino3341 But you can read the book the script was based on, which goes into more lenght due to it's format. With movies you also have to takie into account the editing, meaning some scenes (which *might* have cleared things up) had to be deleted. The information who personally opened the drapes is not essential to the story, f.e. a scene where henchman or maid impicates Fredo in ordering doing so after he has already been discovered by Michael as a traitor surves no purpose to push the story forward. Every movie adaptation is (at least) twice abridged version of a book it's based on :P
It's not a knock on the movie, don't get me wrong - in fact each scene is packed with information, even if it doesn't seem so, and that's why it's one of the all time greats :)
@@Deadhammer218 I basically agree with you I think the - who left the curtains opened, who were the killers and who killed the killers was left nebulous because this would have added a another whole plot twist to a very long picture. But I still wish they went ahead and provided answers. But there Hyman Roth and the whole attempted assassination scenario was not in the book.
I be honest with you, I believed it was Fredo who opened the curtains in the last video and after hearing that Culture Mafia actually touching on this I'm conflicted but I still believe that Fredo was the one that had the drapes/curtains opened. As some have said it could be Rocco, I'm not buying that. Rocco could have killed and truly disappeared Michael at anytime because of his position in the family. He was head of security, all those fighters and killers and hitmen where his men. It would be easy truly easy for him to have michael killed by a car bomb, have the driver or chauffer drive (which will be his guy) and then stop and then have his men kill him and then dump the body and no one knows what happened to michael or just out and out walk the killers right into his room and be done with it. If those shooters where Rocco's he could have easily had them as hired security that day (michael would never know, hundreds of people on that property) and allow them to do what they needed to do.
These men snuck into the compound and knew exactly where to go and tried to sneak out but where killed. Now we are going to have to believe that milk toast Freddo was so cold that he opened up the curtains and then was able to take out 2 professional killers who where skilled enough and hired to kill a major crime figure. I would say that he wouldn't be able to do it. But maybe and I do mean maybe he did do it, he became less of a milk toast fuck up and he was able to kill. Remember he was holding this grudge of being stepped over and not considered the leader of the family. I'll post a clip but there is something else that needs to be considered. Freddo also knew that the Senate lawyer that was part of the commission that was after michael was bought and paid for from Ross as you said that Ross had that guy in his pocket.
So Freddo even knew parts of the fall back plan if Michael didn't get killed. That is alot of trust from Ross who is 10 steps ahead of his opponents to give so much information to the brother of the leader of one of the biggest crime families in the US at the time. I think the only way he would have done this is he knew for a fact that Freddo was okay with the taking out of Michael one way or the other. I wouldn't be surprised if Freddo actually said or was manipulated into saying that he would be okay to have michael killed. I think these are clues that where put out there for people to find and see in plain sight that Freddo was a true bad guy. The didn't want to paint it plain like that for the audience and show him conspiring because it wouldn't show one Michael being conflicted in killing his brother that is trying to kill him and possibly his familly. And two They where going to make a third movie and they needed his issue with killing his "remorseful" brother as one of the major points in the movie.
Freddo was behind this but it go the way it did and he got scared and that is why he reverted back to old Freddo again and not sure of himself.
th-cam.com/video/5Weaop_aiTg/w-d-xo.html
You actually convinced me that Fredo was far more involved with the Lake Tahoe hit than I've thought for years. The key thing, as you note, is how much Fredo knew about Roth's plan, even the backup plan involving the Senate lawyer. No way does a careful criminal mastermind like Roth reveal that kind of information to an unsuspecting patsy pawn. No, Fredo was all the way involved with the plot. He might not have opened the drapes but he understood what was about to go down and gave enough intel to make it happen. I still think Rocco was also involved as well - a possibility Michael must've kept in mind when he sent the guy on a suicide mission to assassinate Roth in broad public, killing two birds with one stone.
Just before the hit, Mikes looking at a drawing his son gave him. He is not driving, there is a arrow pointing at him.
1) he is not in control.
2) the drapes is a unvieling, a revelation.
3) the assassins failing, and being taken out meant someone was watching over him.
It is called the "god"father.
There's a deleted scene with the undertaker(?) dying, begging Michael to protect him in the afterlife. Mike looks confused.
It was definitely Fredo in my mind. If Rocco was also a traitor it would have been made known to the viewer
So the question remains - what was Fredo's role in the L Tahoe hit. I have been asking some of these same Q's for years. Another one is - who tipped off the soldiers in Havanna..??
Been waiting for this one. Great video.
Hope you enjoyed it 💪
Once again, the depth of 1 and 2 are amazing. Also I like to point out that every character in these movies is based off of a real person, but also never offended anyone. No other organized crime movie has done this. I would accredit this to Coppola sitting down with Joe Colombo at the height of his power both as a boss and politically (AIDL) and making sure they were to cross no lines. The main thing Joe wanted was them to never use the term “mafia” in the movie
BTW the "Michael Corleone says hello" was an improv line by Danny Aiello. Coppola liked it enough to leave it in
Sounds like cap
@@AZANlA th-cam.com/video/Q_QVt_JCS54/w-d-xo.html
Please explain the court scene in detail. This was always one of those scenes where I question whether or not I fully comprehended what happened.
good stuff! keep them coming!
Thank you, I had missed so much.
Love these videos about The Godfather! Keep em coming!
Thanks! Will do! 🔥🙏
@@TheCultureMafia
I much appreciate , your work .... my friend
We need a video on the hearing!
@Mario Castillo Yep his brother was old-school and traditional. When Frank saw him he no doubt felt ashamed for betraying the family.
Hey I was just watching your other video and you upload this
Brilliant!!!
Yes please, I have seen the movies and read the books, it’s too hard to understand sadly
Hyman was a GENIUS. Micheal of Course no one can beat. Of course he was able to figure this out but he's not a Slime ball like Roth so it took him a while. Insane this story.
You have done a good job with these videos.
Up for that explanation
The Roth “confession” to Michael about Moe Green never made sense to me. It was a major misstep by Roth and seemed to come out of left field, as if the plot necesssitated he get this off his chest so it could move forward.
I can see what you mean. I always thought that interaction was Roth’s way of telling Michael that hits can happen, event to people we care about, without one knowing who ordered it. It was also a way for Roth to suggest that maybe the brothers set the hit on their own. Roth was also telling him that it is just business and it doesn’t need to interfere with their current deal in Cuba. However looking back at the movie it is obvious now that Roth was trying to avenge Green.
Gotta factor in folks getting over emotional which tends to result in ppl slipping up due to suddenly acting irrational instead of rational. Which seriously appears to had been the case with Roth. AKA he was in his feelings.
Michael had him flustered. He really didn't expect Michael's line of questioning about the purposely botched Pentangeli hit.
I have to assume it was intentional and not a slip as the revelation of the major plot line inserted as a ‘slip’ would cheapen the movie.
You could make the case that Roth knew that the Cuba deal was a no go and there was no longer any value in being coy.
Revealing himself as the enemy did not have any downside as he would be untouchable in Cuba. He now had Michael on the defensive with two aces up his sleeve (Pantagela and that Michael would ultimately discover that Fredo had betrayed him).
If the government of Cuba had not been overthrown, Roth would have remained untouchable there. The money and power controlling Cuba was greater than controlling Vegas at that time. The threat of communism, so long as it remained manageable, played into Roth hands as it gave him access to US intelligence and military assets.
Roth could expand into dealing arms to all of SOuth and Central America if he had not already done so. He had the upper hand on Michael at this point and his revelation was a way of letting Michael know this.
@@dondajulah4168 If they had walked in Roths hospital room maybe 2 or 3 mins later. Instead of when the Hitman was about to put the pillow over Roth face. Roth would simply be dead.
If Busetta travelled to Brazil, I would love to see the customs agent's facial reaction as he/she inspects his passport.
Hu3huehuehuehue
You Betcha!! I subscribed to this channel!!!
Great video!
I’ve always thought it was Roth masterminded the Rosato towards Pentageli. By doing so he used one of Corleones buttons against him which spearheaded his testimonies against the Corleone family. If succeeded it would have severely weakened Michaels position if not downright destroy him which was Roths intentions to begin with. Plus it further emphasizes that they weren’t in the business deal in Cuba as partners.
Its sort of the same trick he used when he ensnared Fredo. By using these two he tried to destroy the family from within why Michael acted in the most brutal way possible to having them both killed in the end.
The Rossoto brothers scene was inspired by the “GALLO BROTHERS”… it was Albert Gallo who was almost gyrotted and wore the scar 4 life … Crazy Joe and the Colombo wars…
Great insight, a botched hit makes more sense now you have a living witness to bring down the family... amazing observation.
Awesome job on the videos. Keep up the great work
Thank you 🔥
When Johnny Ola visited Michael at Lake Tahoe, probably one of his men open the curtains of Michael’s room,
So in summary then: nobody really understands exactly what happened or why.
Thanks for the explanation.
Love the background music in your Godfather uploads. Great work!
Thank You 💯
nailed it!!!
It may be a TTS but this man has some great writing dedicated to some awesome mafia content.
Michael's stare in Godfather II is absolutely vicious....
Michael staring at the Devil
The Devil looks away, fumbles with his pitchfork then meekly looks at Michael "What? You killed your brother. I wanted to give you a pass! It was out of my hands, I swear! Okay, you and Al Neri can stay there and me and my people will stay over here...okay?"
True. I believe it started in Part I when he returned from Sicily after the failed hit on his life. When he met Kay with her students he had that thousand yard stare.
I just finished watching all Godfather episode again it's so relaxing.