I am really impressed, Thank you for doing all the research on Cats and putting out the information. I watch quite a few channels and you are right at the top. Thanks again..
Many boats are also run down, disused, or in need of major repair. Many boats are technically unsalable because of the repairs needed. Many boat owners are also out of touch with reality when it comes to pricing. Without a proper survey, many new boat owners get screwed for lack of a better word. After the 2017 Caribbean hurricane season, many boats have been lost, or damaged. This will lead to a situation of salvage and quick spotty repairs. boats that were wrecked are being resold for cheap or lightly used. It can't be stated enough, to always get a boat properly surveyed before you spend a dime on it. You may be buying a former wreck that is un-insurable. If you buy a boat outside your home country, when you sail it back to your home country, you will pay tax on that purchase. This is why some boat sales specify no sale within the USA for example. Boaters preferences are also changing. Catamarans are becoming more popular than monohulls, and this is driving the price of monohulls down. The under 30ft boat market is being hit the most. Resale value of that market is being hit with an average 30 percent loss. This is the best area for young boaters to buy into and get started in boating.
ANOTHER great video!! Full of information, I can learn more from ONE of your videos than ten others combined!! Gary, you are a wealth of information sir. Thank you again!! ☺
Thank you Ryan for setting up this information area and to Gary for his experienced help in answering Ryan's (and many other sailboat searchers) questions. I wanted a full time live-aboard catamaran only, and searched (without regard to price) for what I considered the best vessel for my traveling home. Being retired, I chose a used Lagoon 45 or a 52S. After enduring severe shock, I checked out other cat brands and decided to settle for a monohull, sigh.....perhaps a very used Beneteau CC 57 with the helm on the companionway bulkhead.....or scuttle my life long dream until (hopefully) my next life.
This is one of the questions we've wondered about as we're "window shopping" for our boat. Hope this can be of some use those of you in a similar situation as us!
Jessica and Ryan Adventures let me know what your interested in and I can find you something great. Badkew@gmail.com I've got a 55' Numarine for a steal of a deal.
Just to let you know, you asked the same questions that I would have. I appreciate the fact that you are taking your time and doing lots of "homework" prior to making your purchase. It will be at least another 2 years before we are to the point of buying our "Floating Tiny House", but with helpful tips from you and others it is making the process that much easier. Fair winds to you both.!
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Very interesting. That guy Gary knows catamarans! I'm not in this yacht world of boat buying, but he clearly knows his stuff and hey, the same supply/demand principles apply everywhere on all boats.
Great interview Ryan and Gary. Full of excellent advice that clearly comes from years of experience in the game. Thanks so much for sharing this. More power to TH-cam! Cheers from Stewart
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This video came at exactly the right time for me. Thank you. Already in email contact about one boat in Grenada and waiting on a reply on another, and seeing this video is telling me this is the right time to do this and I'll have some negotiating power.
Update: I just made an offer on a boat in St. Thomas USVI after pursuing several boats after watching this video. Thank you for making this video! It got me to focus on getting the right boat at the cheapest price by not waiting until November/December.
Ok here I go again , I'm 55 and I had finally work myself into a prosition where I'm a consultant and I take on projects that may last a year but mostly 7 to 9 months the plan was that by 50 I was got g to be on a boat mostly coastal cruising and but the age of 60 or so I would be sailing around the world, so far I'm 5 years late on my dream, it seems just about the time I ready to get serious some catastrophe hits, and the next thing I know I'm looking at hurricane and storm damage boats I know crazy huh but I'm just trying to keep the dream alive the scary thing is if you buy a boat where this damage occurred if the boat yards would be so overwhelmed it could be years before they get to yours or that you could even get a proper survey on one , or if left unattended while on the waiting list to be fixed it could be striped for parts on blocks in a boat yard somewhere, but there seems to be some very good deals out there, I wonder if you guys feel the same way or should I just run away from even contemplating such a thought
Can confirm, I'm in the pacific northwest, we are shopping boats right now. $40k doesn't get you much. Looking at a 34' Catalina (late 80's) right now for high $30's. Way more options on the east coast and florida. Wish I could sail one back from there!
I think the best deal can be made anywhere. Its just up to the owner who realy wants to, or is forced to sell. You need patience, just in like any other good deal. (willing to walk away from it if you cant get a good deal)
Good info. Gary seems to be pretty genuine. We are looking for a Helia 44 in about a year. We will contact Gary and see if he can help. Keep up the good work, really appreciate the analytical approach you take towards choosing the right boat
Great video once again and thanks to Gary for also doing this . The information is very informative This is really assisting in my quest in locating a boat . I really need that 30% discount due to the fact that oil prices are down and Canada couldn't sell a barrel if they tried. (oil sands) 0.70 on the dollar.....on a good day😉 That's about 75,000 extra on a 250,000 boat. Dam should have bought it when we were $ 1.10 C to $1.00U.S couple years ago lol thank Ryan
haha,I bought an ex charter boat from Belize. It was a great experience! Thanks for this video. Very good info! Belize is waaaaaay better than BVIs if you want a true private sailing experience. There are thousands of cays. We went in June and on many anchorages, you are the only one there!
for me that sounds like you can make *very big profits* and very good money buying boats in the off season in the Caribbian and selling them in the high season in the US....
We always get the best price at the end of boating season and ppl don't want to pay for having the boat on the ground (cost a lot) so here in Sweden we have 4 seasons and all is hoping for a warm summer when u going to use the boat. In and around Mediterranean there is another deal maybe close to Florida deals. A/C in Northern Europa isn't something we look for when we look for extras/options in a boat. Italy , England, Germany and Holland is bigger than France but France build a lot of sailing boats. That's why Sunseeker,Princess, Azimut, Fairline and Cranchi, for example, is common in waters around Europa.
What about the fact that boats in Florida and the Caribbean sitting in the blazing sun all year around verses a boat in the upper northeast US that is covered and stored half the year or fresh water boats. Seems like they would be a good consideration for longevity.
Thanks for these vids. I have seen comments from people complaining about not enough sailing, but there are already LOTS of such videos on the internet. These sorts of informative videos are not that common, so I appreciate them. If you are going to be like everyone else, what makes you special?
Don't forget that many boats are now built in Europe and it costs a lot to ship them to the West coast of the Americas. Therefore higher prices for new boats on the West coast.
Thank you SO MUCH for this information!....I am considering buying a cat to live aboard and ultimately run my own SCUBA charter trips in the Caribbean. I am so happy I discovered you guys and Gary!
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Expensive in the US compared to where? From a UK standpoint, boats seem way cheaper in USA at the lower end of the market compared to Britain & Europe. And having to pay 15-17% VAT (value added tax) on a boat imported into the EU doesn't help either.
I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area, and you can't even get in to a nice "turn key"boat here that will cross seas for under 65k and those boats will still need work it's crazy here and then good luck finding a slip by you. I live 5min from the water but have to keep my boat almost an hour away. California seems more about having a tiny home on the water more then sailboat actually used as sailboats. Now if you want small 20-25 feet that's a fixer upper for around 5k,we have a ton!!!
The San Francisco Bay Area has extremely hostile policies towards real estate development (and many other types of businesses). That's why there are relatively few marinas and so few slips available. There have been almost no new marinas developed within the past several decades, for example. Few places to store boats means fewer boats available and higher prices. And you're right, it's extremely difficult to find available slips. Most marinas have waiting lists for slips that are measured in years.
Excellent information! It is so tiresome slogging through so many inexperienced lives boards giving their ignorance a platform… complaining about the high price of slips or haul out fees or storage “on the hard”… in Miami FL! 😳 This experienced commentary is worth a price of admission… wish you had one! 😁
Another Great Job, Ryan! Plz disregard the negatory Tories leaving stupid comments. I don't get these trolls? Like as if they own several catamarans, jeez...and they already know everything.
Mr.Fretz I took your luggage up to your room when you stayed at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel in Waikiki. I know you don’t remember me lol, but I’m seriously interested in buying a owner’s version catamaran. 50 footer. I work at the airport so I can fly anywhere at a moment’s notice to pick it up
I've been thinking of buying in the US and sailing the Caribbean. Maybe I should re-think this idea, I didnt realise there is a used boat industry down in the Caribbean. But inregards to prices, even taking the exchange rates into consideration, I still believe the US is good buying from a NZders point of view., boats are expensive here.
Greece Turkey with regards to Gulets are 40% -50% less expensive all year long. but they are limited on fuel capacity because of Laminated Mahogany construction.
Wow. I really love these vids. Gary seems like a really solid dude and i can see why he has been successful. I would love to pic up a nice cruiser cat someday. I know who i will contact first.
Well I still have much to learn .. Hopefully Gary can help when purchase time comes around..12 months from now.. I live in Australia so it all begins from here for me and as such I'm faced with a myriad of problems like just for instance what US visa to apply for ..And where to get it..
Great video! I purchased a new Jeanneau from the factory in France and saved many thousands of dollars over the North American prices. they are all set up for it there. the new boat and all the gear we purchased were tax free. we even shipping boxes of the navigation system in without problems. when we sold the boat a few years later in Annapolis, we made money (or at least broke even).
Well once they sail it away from the factory, it's no longer a new boat, BUT: 1. Part of the point of getting a boat is to sail it, so if they took part in the sail across the Atlantic, then they hopefully benefitted from and enjoyed the experience. 2. They said they sold it for the same or higher price later.
+Pi Zen Graham Perry said they made money or broke even selling it. "when we sold the boat a few years later in Annapolis, we made money (or at least broke even)."
bahahahahha I read the title and properly ROFLed. Try buying in Australia. The amount of boat I could have bought in the US for the same money as the one I currently own is mind boggling
Bananaman disagree to an extent advertised and final sale price are 2 different things , i recently purchased in moololaba , and found the prices in qld for equivalent boats even cheaper than mexico if you include import duty.
What website are you going to to search for boats for sale? and is a cat easier to sail than a monohull. If you were a beginner which would you buy at first?
Thankyou Gary and Ryan- very informative. I do have a question about the bureaucrats who are "looking out for you and me"- i.e. Value added tax, de-registration tax (like in Panama), registration tax in the U.S., import tax, etc. Can you comment? It may be a lot easier for a US citizen to buy in US waters than try to solve the "Govment Maze" designed to fleece. Thx.
Using a 50 foot Trawler/Motor Yacht as an example. Which would be a better investment, buying a $250K boat, or buying a $50K boat and investing $200K in upgrades ? Also, what do you think about converting Diesel engines over to Electric engines, and could it be accomplished as part of the $200K upgrade ?
Well, Im flabergasted several years ago things were different you could buy a boat cheap people were selling selling no buyers guess there is the economic factor too. I still;l believe there are deals to be had probably on the less desirable craft.
Guys, what you have to understand is that in the end, with all things being equal, all boats cost the same. The "stripped down" versions without all the goodies, will eventually cost very close to the fitted out boat once you've added all the "extras". The only really extra cost in the US is the tax, the Caribbean being a tax free jurisdiction. Sure there are deals to be had and if you are a savvy shopper or have a really good broker, you can get the deal of a lifetime but it is not always the case. There are times when boats are invariably cheaper and you can read about it here: catamaranguru.com/brokerage/catamaran-buying-guide-tips/when-are-catamaran-sailboats-for-sale-at-the-lowest-prices
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You touched on European VAT tax in your other video with Gary, but I didn't hear if that tax (often around 21%) is refundable when you take a boat to the US and register it there. I'd think it is. Please inform. Some ads say "VAT Paid" or "VAT Not Paid". Are those "VAT Not Paid"-advertised boat located in a VAT country but registered in a non-VAT country? (I can't figure how/why else they'd include "VAT Not Paid" in an ad.) Thanks for any advice.
Interesting. Thanks. Last I looked (20 years ago), with some VAT-paid goods, you could get the VAT refunded when leaving with the goods for the US. For all I know, that could have changed for every good or boats could be an exception to refundability.
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I love this guy , very up front and no BS , thank you .
Gary reminds me of the boat seller on Captain Ron in a good way. Extremely knowledgable. Thanks for the great video and interview.
That would be Paul Anka. I was impressed with his assistant.
I am really impressed, Thank you for doing all the research on Cats and putting out the information. I watch quite a few channels and you are right at the top. Thanks again..
Many boats are also run down, disused, or in need of major repair. Many boats are technically unsalable because of the repairs needed. Many boat owners are also out of touch with reality when it comes to pricing. Without a proper survey, many new boat owners get screwed for lack of a better word. After the 2017 Caribbean hurricane season, many boats have been lost, or damaged. This will lead to a situation of salvage and quick spotty repairs. boats that were wrecked are being resold for cheap or lightly used. It can't be stated enough, to always get a boat properly surveyed before you spend a dime on it. You may be buying a former wreck that is un-insurable.
If you buy a boat outside your home country, when you sail it back to your home country, you will pay tax on that purchase. This is why some boat sales specify no sale within the USA for example.
Boaters preferences are also changing. Catamarans are becoming more popular than monohulls, and this is driving the price of monohulls down. The under 30ft boat market is being hit the most. Resale value of that market is being hit with an average 30 percent loss. This is the best area for young boaters to buy into and get started in boating.
GReat interview and thanks for finding Gary he is entertaining and his website is so huge and fun to browse keep up the great work
Yeah the Caribbean has heaps of cheap boats now.. you just need to get them out of the trees...
He brought up a good point. Where or how do you find a safe place to protect your boat during a hurricane?
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ANOTHER great video!!
Full of information, I can learn more from ONE of your videos than ten others combined!! Gary, you are a wealth of information sir. Thank you again!! ☺
He is so knowledgable would love some more q&A videos with Gary.
Gary has earned my future business. Very impressed with his knowledge and demeanor.
Thank you Ryan for setting up this information area and to Gary for his experienced help in answering Ryan's (and many other sailboat searchers) questions. I wanted a full time live-aboard catamaran only, and searched (without regard to price) for what I considered the best vessel for my traveling home. Being retired, I chose a used Lagoon 45 or a 52S. After enduring severe shock, I checked out other cat brands and decided to settle for a monohull, sigh.....perhaps a very used Beneteau CC 57 with the helm on the companionway bulkhead.....or scuttle my life long dream until (hopefully) my next life.
This is one of the questions we've wondered about as we're "window shopping" for our boat. Hope this can be of some use those of you in a similar situation as us!
Jessica and Ryan Adventures let me know what your interested in and I can find you something great. Badkew@gmail.com I've got a 55' Numarine for a steal of a deal.
Jessica and Ryan Adventures hey guys how close are y'all getting to your dream
Thank you Ryan, I like your determination and the way you help the community for this purpose.
Agree. Very useful interview with Gary.
Just to let you know, you asked the same questions that I would have. I appreciate the fact that you are taking your time and doing lots of "homework" prior to making your purchase. It will be at least another 2 years before we are to the point of buying our "Floating Tiny House", but with helpful tips from you and others it is making the process that much easier.
Fair winds to you both.!
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Ryan, Great Video. Gary Fretz really know's his Catamarans and it shows in these videos. Great Job.
Very interesting. That guy Gary knows catamarans! I'm not in this yacht world of boat buying, but he clearly knows his stuff and hey, the same supply/demand principles apply everywhere on all boats.
one of the most helpful interviews on a sailing channel, thanks Ryan!
Great interview Ryan and Gary. Full of excellent advice that clearly comes from years of experience in the game. Thanks so much for sharing this. More power to TH-cam! Cheers from Stewart
I love your analytical approach guys! Thank you for doing all this research and making it easy for your viewers!
These were great! I just emailed Gary about helping me find a boat later this year! Thank you for doing these! they are really helpful!
Wow, Gary Fretz seems really knowledgable...and he talks in a very straight forward manner.
This was a really helpful discussion. Thanks guys!
Outstanding. Thank you Ryan and Mr. Fretz. Castle Harbor Sailing School sounds like a great place.
I know this is an older video, but I appreciate you putting it together and Gary's expertise and insights.
Great video and subject material for people looking into this. Thanks Gary for your knowledge and time and Thanks Ryan for getting this out!
Great info. Great question and genuine effort to enlighten us all. Much appreciation
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🏈thank you so much for all info. We we have 2 years from last month till our move to a cat. Never sailed but learning to his year. Love your channel!
Hi Mamas good evening how are you doing this beautiful evening…🌺🌺🌺
Thanks again Ryan! This video is very helpful and informative. Will definitely help us budget restricted folks.
This video came at exactly the right time for me. Thank you. Already in email contact about one boat in Grenada and waiting on a reply on another, and seeing this video is telling me this is the right time to do this and I'll have some negotiating power.
Update: I just made an offer on a boat in St. Thomas USVI after pursuing several boats after watching this video. Thank you for making this video! It got me to focus on getting the right boat at the cheapest price by not waiting until November/December.
Ok here I go again , I'm 55 and I had finally work myself into a prosition where I'm a consultant and I take on projects that may last a year but mostly 7 to 9 months the plan was that by 50 I was got g to be on a boat mostly coastal cruising and but the age of 60 or so I would be sailing around the world, so far I'm 5 years late on my dream, it seems just about the time I ready to get serious some catastrophe hits, and the next thing I know I'm looking at hurricane and storm damage boats I know crazy huh but I'm just trying to keep the dream alive the scary thing is if you buy a boat where this damage occurred if the boat yards would be so overwhelmed it could be years before they get to yours or that you could even get a proper survey on one , or if left unattended while on the waiting list to be fixed it could be striped for parts on blocks in a boat yard somewhere, but there seems to be some very good deals out there, I wonder if you guys feel the same way or should I just run away from even contemplating such a thought
I watched this video about a year ago.. now that I've done some research it makes a lot more sense and is good info.
Can confirm, I'm in the pacific northwest, we are shopping boats right now. $40k doesn't get you much. Looking at a 34' Catalina (late 80's) right now for high $30's. Way more options on the east coast and florida. Wish I could sail one back from there!
I think the best deal can be made anywhere.
Its just up to the owner who realy wants to, or is forced to sell.
You need patience, just in like any other good deal. (willing to walk away from it if you cant get a good deal)
Very helpful, thanks Ryan and Gary.
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Season is not June until September in Europe. Our sailing season is much longer than N America.
Very nicely done with a knowledgeable guest. Great job!
Good info. Gary seems to be pretty genuine. We are looking for a Helia 44 in about a year. We will contact Gary and see if he can help. Keep up the good work, really appreciate the analytical approach you take towards choosing the right boat
Gary did excellent job. My family did real estate for years and many similarities! Thanks🐋
Great video once again and thanks to Gary for also doing this . The information is very informative This is really assisting in my quest in locating a boat . I really need that 30% discount due to the fact that oil prices are down and Canada couldn't sell a barrel if they tried. (oil sands) 0.70 on the dollar.....on a good day😉
That's about 75,000 extra on a 250,000 boat. Dam should have bought it when we were $ 1.10 C to $1.00U.S couple years ago
lol thank Ryan
Great info for us who are thinking about buying a boat, have already sent an email to Gary for his book.
haha,I bought an ex charter boat from Belize. It was a great experience! Thanks for this video. Very good info! Belize is waaaaaay better than BVIs if you want a true private sailing experience. There are thousands of cays. We went in June and on many anchorages, you are the only one there!
Another great video. Heaps of good advice here.
for me that sounds like you can make *very big profits* and very good money buying boats in the off season in the Caribbian and selling them in the high season in the US....
Wow! Great information. Answered question I didn't even have yet.
great videos really refreshing perspective on content of youtube sailing channels. good format definitely worth watching
We always get the best price at the end of boating season and ppl don't want to pay for having the boat on the ground (cost a lot) so here in Sweden we have 4 seasons and all is hoping for a warm summer when u going to use the boat. In and around Mediterranean there is another deal maybe close to Florida deals. A/C in Northern Europa isn't something we look for when we look for extras/options in a boat. Italy , England, Germany and Holland is bigger than France but France build a lot of sailing boats. That's why Sunseeker,Princess, Azimut, Fairline and Cranchi, for example, is common in waters around Europa.
That was really helpful. Many thanks
I think this is my first youtube comment ever... but this video really helped!!!
Thank you for the information. At some point, I'll be in the market, so this will help out for sure.
What about the fact that boats in Florida and the Caribbean sitting in the blazing sun all year around verses a boat in the upper northeast US that is covered and stored half the year or fresh water boats. Seems like they would be a good consideration for longevity.
Thanks for these vids. I have seen comments from people complaining about not enough sailing, but there are already LOTS of such videos on the internet.
These sorts of informative videos are not that common, so I appreciate them. If you are going to be like everyone else, what makes you special?
Awesome informative video Ryan. I really enjoyed it. Thanks.
Gary offers a great example of shifty eyes like no other.
Quite a character in so many ways :-) Being a European I loved his talk about aircon. So funny.
Loll finally someone else noticed. Made me doubt every word 😂
There is by no means a finite supply of boats. If you go to boats.com there are tens of thousands of boats for sale.
Another good one, Thx Ryan & Gary...
Don't forget that many boats are now built in Europe and it costs a lot to ship them to the West coast of the Americas.
Therefore higher prices for new boats on the West coast.
Excellent Gary, Thank You.
This was so incredibly useful, thanks! I'm contacting Gary right now to help me find my dream boat. 😊
How do I get a copy of this book? I’d love to give it a read. 5 year plan is to afford an outright purchase.
Thank you SO MUCH for this information!....I am considering buying a cat to live aboard and ultimately run my own SCUBA charter trips in the Caribbean. I am so happy I discovered you guys and Gary!
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Expensive in the US compared to where? From a UK standpoint, boats seem way cheaper in USA at the lower end of the market compared to Britain & Europe. And having to pay 15-17% VAT (value added tax) on a boat imported into the EU doesn't help either.
Some of the boats on Gary's search site state "not for sale in the USA" ... what does that mean? and why is not available in the USA?
Jones act more than likely
great interview. lots of quality information
I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area, and you can't even get in to a nice "turn key"boat here that will cross seas for under 65k and those boats will still need work it's crazy here and then good luck finding a slip by you. I live 5min from the water but have to keep my boat almost an hour away. California seems more about having a tiny home on the water more then sailboat actually used as sailboats. Now if you want small 20-25 feet that's a fixer upper for around 5k,we have a ton!!!
The San Francisco Bay Area has extremely hostile policies towards real estate development (and many other types of businesses). That's why there are relatively few marinas and so few slips available. There have been almost no new marinas developed within the past several decades, for example. Few places to store boats means fewer boats available and higher prices.
And you're right, it's extremely difficult to find available slips. Most marinas have waiting lists for slips that are measured in years.
That was excellent Thx Ryan and Gary
catching up on your channel, this was a great interview thanks
Excellent information! It is so tiresome slogging through so many inexperienced lives boards giving their ignorance a platform… complaining about the high price of slips or haul out fees or storage “on the hard”… in Miami FL! 😳
This experienced commentary is worth a price of admission… wish you had one! 😁
Another Great Job, Ryan! Plz disregard the negatory Tories leaving stupid comments. I don't get these trolls? Like as if they own several catamarans, jeez...and they already know everything.
Mr.Fretz I took your luggage up to your room when you stayed at the Royal Hawaiian Hotel in Waikiki. I know you don’t remember me lol, but I’m seriously interested in buying a owner’s version catamaran. 50 footer. I work at the airport so I can fly anywhere at a moment’s notice to pick it up
awesome! loved gary's expertise!
I've been thinking of buying in the US and sailing the Caribbean. Maybe I should re-think this idea, I didnt realise there is a used boat industry down in the Caribbean. But inregards to prices, even taking the exchange rates into consideration, I still believe the US is good buying from a NZders point of view., boats are expensive here.
really good information. Thank you
Thanks for the expertise!
Greece Turkey with regards to Gulets are 40% -50% less expensive all year long. but they are limited on fuel capacity because of Laminated Mahogany construction.
Wow. I really love these vids. Gary seems like a really solid dude and i can see why he has been successful. I would love to pic up a nice cruiser cat someday. I know who i will contact first.
Gonna move a boat from NZ to Seattle now , thanks.
Well I still have much to learn .. Hopefully Gary can help when purchase time comes around..12 months from now.. I live in Australia so it all begins from here for me and as such I'm faced with a myriad of problems like just for instance what US visa to apply for ..And where to get it..
Great video! I purchased a new Jeanneau from the factory in France and saved many thousands of dollars over the North American prices. they are all set up for it there. the new boat and all the gear we purchased were tax free. we even shipping boxes of the navigation system in without problems. when we sold the boat a few years later in Annapolis, we made money (or at least broke even).
Smart way to do it.
Well once they sail it away from the factory, it's no longer a new boat, BUT: 1. Part of the point of getting a boat is to sail it, so if they took part in the sail across the Atlantic, then they hopefully benefitted from and enjoyed the experience. 2. They said they sold it for the same or higher price later.
+Pi Zen Graham Perry said they made money or broke even selling it. "when we sold the boat a few years later in Annapolis, we made money (or at least broke even)."
bahahahahha I read the title and properly ROFLed. Try buying in Australia. The amount of boat I could have bought in the US for the same money as the one I currently own is mind boggling
o0bananaman0o More inventory, higher demand. Lower prices.
Yep
Bananaman disagree to an extent advertised and final sale price are 2 different things , i recently purchased in moololaba , and found the prices in qld for equivalent boats even cheaper than mexico if you include import duty.
You have an accent in your writing...
What website are you going to to search for boats for sale? and is a cat easier to sail than a monohull. If you were a beginner which would you buy at first?
Great video. Thanks for the info.
Excellent presentation!
does this buying advice also apply to powerboats like grand banks? getting a discount for seasonality / location is great advice.
great video very well done n informative but i had the impression boats where cheaper in the usa rather than dearer goes to show how little i know
I wonder why many sellers use the phrase, NOT FOR SALE IN US WATERS ,, i suppose it is for high taxes.I am right ??
Am I the only one that noticed your tangled earbud wires? lol. Outstanding video, btw. Great info.
Thankyou Gary and Ryan- very informative. I do have a question about the bureaucrats who are "looking out for you and me"- i.e. Value added tax, de-registration tax (like in Panama), registration tax in the U.S., import tax, etc. Can you comment? It may be a lot easier for a US citizen to buy in US waters than try to solve the "Govment Maze" designed to fleece. Thx.
Wow Gary Fretz knows his stuff.
Gary did not mention Sunreef Catamarans. They look pretty awesome. Why is that?
Great video, thanks!
Me 1 hour ago: Maybe I can build my own pontoon boat to save money.
Me now: Maybe I should quit my job and try to buy and sell large catamarans.
I like! Keep it up!
How many of these guidelines apply to lesser priced monohulls? For example, boats less than 40' and less than $50K.
Using a 50 foot Trawler/Motor Yacht as an example. Which would be a better investment, buying a $250K boat, or buying a $50K boat and investing $200K in upgrades ? Also, what do you think about converting Diesel engines over to Electric engines, and could it be accomplished as part of the $200K upgrade ?
Well, Im flabergasted several years ago things were different you could buy a boat cheap people were selling selling no buyers guess there is the economic factor too. I still;l believe there are deals to be had probably on the less desirable craft.
Try the northern lakes area and Canada good cheap boats up there...
Guys, what you have to understand is that in the end, with all things being equal, all boats cost the same. The "stripped down" versions without all the goodies, will eventually cost very close to the fitted out boat once you've added all the "extras". The only really extra cost in the US is the tax, the Caribbean being a tax free jurisdiction. Sure there are deals to be had and if you are a savvy shopper or have a really good broker, you can get the deal of a lifetime but it is not always the case. There are times when boats are invariably cheaper and you can read about it here: catamaranguru.com/brokerage/catamaran-buying-guide-tips/when-are-catamaran-sailboats-for-sale-at-the-lowest-prices
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You touched on European VAT tax in your other video with Gary, but I didn't hear if that tax (often around 21%) is refundable when you take a boat to the US and register it there. I'd think it is. Please inform.
Some ads say "VAT Paid" or "VAT Not Paid". Are those "VAT Not Paid"-advertised boat located in a VAT country but registered in a non-VAT country? (I can't figure how/why else they'd include "VAT Not Paid" in an ad.) Thanks for any advice.
Interesting. Thanks. Last I looked (20 years ago), with some VAT-paid goods, you could get the VAT refunded when leaving with the goods for the US. For all I know, that could have changed for every good or boats could be an exception to refundability.
Nice video Jessica and Ryan.
Can you please start posting the URL's to the links you mention or your quests mention in your video's !!!!!