god why does everyone have to argue about which is best like school kids?! both cars are great and i would have great difficulty choosing between the two.
0-100km/h RS4 4.7 M3 4.8 0-160km/h RS4 11.0 M3 11.0 1/4 mile RS4 13.0 M3 13.2 Nurburgring M3 8:22 RS4 8:25 So, on straight line speed the RS4 just edges it but around a track the M3 seems to have a slight edge so they balance out.
the Rs4 in this video which is the B5 model, has a 2.7 twin turbo (or bi-turbo as audi call it)engine. the newer model (the B7) uses a natuaraly aspirated V8... so your half right.
I never said it is a B7. It´s a B5 RS4 V6TT with Chiptuning by ABT. In the first stage this car had 420hp and later: 460PS (P Max = 338KW) bei 6945 U/min. Max. drehzahl bei 7250. 618NM bei 4531 U/min. 20 grad und 974 hpc druck. P-rad von 258KW bei 256km/h an den Rädern.
This looks like an older rs4 with twin turbo v6 (only had double pipes on the one side, stationwagon/avant, and older taillights). The newer rs4 (in the US) are sedans, unless they sold the late model rs4 avant in europe. They never sold these tt v6 rs4 in the USA. You can convert an older (2000-2002) s4 into an rs4 with upgrade turbo, intercooler and maybe fuel system.
@fehraltorf95 Right, you obviously don't know what you are talking about. Have you seen DTM? or Le Mans? Or BTCC? Or Group B Rally? I'm not a Audi fanboy, what I I'm pretty sure that they know how to make a car handle well considering that they have won basically all great races in this world but Dakar. The quattro is an excellent 4WD-system, the Torsten diff works great both at the track and in snow/mud.
you can see the different philosophies at work here... for brute power I think the nod goes to the Audi, but the BMW exhibits much better handling in the twisties, where the Audi seems to struggle a little with understeer. Both very nice cars though, and I'd be happy with either in my garage...
@wedrive525it True - But... The Audi's lack character due to less steering feel and the dull experience which the quattro system offers. The better overall driving experience is the lighter, sharper, RWD M3. If you buy a car based on what a stop watch says and not on driver fulfillment and character then grab the RS4 :)
Actually, the RS4 in this video has about 380hp vs M3's 335hp (roughly) But then, it is an estate and weighs no doubt significantly more. The fact is they are both great cars and a few hundreds of a second here or there doesn't make much difference. It's obvious, though, that the RS4 driver is going too wide on the corners and leaving his flank open.
I personally prefer the E90 M3 to the RS4, but I like both. Its a good thing that people like what they like, otherwise everyone driving a sports car would be driving a ZR1 for this price..
Some parts of the track is advantageous to the M3 but some others to the RS4. It's really a tight match. Don't know if the M3 really take over cause the video cut.
if the video would be named Audi RS 4 vs Bmw M3 than more Audi fans would watch it (due to search key words) so "Audi" would be better according to the commens or something like this... I would say both cars are awesome! I just simply love both brands and the Benz too!
I think you need to do a little research yourself. The Audi A4 series was based Volkswagen's B5 Platform, which was shared with the 4th generation Passat, and i really don't understand why that would be a bad thing?
It's obvious that an RS4 is too heavy and has too much understeering in the original trim. It's not made for a racetrack with tight curves, it's a car for the Autobahn
well the hard news for you, chum, is that Autocar ran a test of V8 RS4 vs E46 M3 last year and the M3 came out ahead, as has been the case with at least one other reputable magazine. In any event, at this level of power and performance and with a capped 155mph, there is no 'ass kicking' they're just different and judging by the silliness of your comments, doubt you have more driving skill than anyone else to appreciate what tiny differences there may be...
@demon23ro if you didn't notice in NASCAR there are turns. As much as people talk about NASCAR its more to the sport than just engine power. It's not my favorite auto sport but its still kinda cool. It does get boring but I would kill to do some NASCAR racing. And the straight line thing is gettin old yes we like 0 to 60 and quarter miles but trust me we honor good handling cars. And in this case your argument is irrelevant. Awd more grip Audi rules BMW does too but in this case rs4 ftw.
it is easier to run in the second, you have the front as a base and can get better in the corners. In addition to the pilot of the Audi seemed pretty bad.
@wedrive525it did you know that the that rs4 is older than both the c63 and e92 m3 -______-. excuse me if im wrong but the 2005 s4 is faster (around a track) than a e46 m3 not rs4. the current rs6 is faster than the e60 m5 and the NEW e63 AMG. thats saying something. maybe Audi is a understatement. BMW is my fav overall company but Audi always makes the most powerful and user friendly cars.
hey man! i dont say that bmw is not good cars but audi is more quality cars,more comfortable and quick as well! i have my own new s3 with chip and is over 300bhp and two of my friends had audi rs4 and bmw m3 e46 and i drove both cars! also i race rs4 with e46 and we beat e46 couple of times!! so i know both cars very well.. but i know the new m3 is very very good but i said before is much newer than audi rs4 2007 and has more technical improvements!!
hey man the new m3 is quicker but the last model is much slower than rs4!! The rs4 is one year older than the new m3 so the new m3 it has more technical improvements!! so...
this must be hard news for you BMW lovers but this is the old RS4 with the V6 and it can kick the M3 ass any time M3 343 hp vs RS4 380 hp and don't get me wrong i like the M3 RS4 is just quicker
the bmw driver had better skill than the audi driver. See the fast cornering on the m3. The brake timing is very important on the track. the m3 will pass the audi because of the better driver
Audi cars are so luxorious and also so fast. It's heaven for me! BMW cars are fast and nice too, but it's not audi. I don't know why I prefer the Audi than BMW. Maybe the audi looks more commonly then BMW and that is the reason why I much more like audi!!
@wedrive525it Make a youtube search of Audi RS 4 Vs M3 Vs C63 - Top gear show. There you will see just how much GRIP ( i would call it understeer to be honest..) the RS 4 has on a racing track vs an M3. Also check out season 16, episode 5 of Top Gear, M3 vs RS5, and then, tell me which car is the one that HANDLES BETTER. As for straight line speed, check my channel, i have an M3 vs R8 4.2 drag race, from 30 to 180 MPH.
what i saw in the video was that the audi rs4 passed by u like u both were stoped and braked after that. He wasnt even in race maby he saw u racing and just humiliated u both lol
funny how all the youtubers are audi fans. they have no idea that the e46 M3 is a true track car while their rs4 station wagon.. just isnt. Drive an audi wagon, then drive a proper track prept M3, tell me what you think audi fans;) dont even need to argue my point.
My RS4 is much more stable than that under braking. The guy driving the Audi is not the most skilled, and he misses a lot of apexes. It be more interesting to see sedan vs. sedan, for a true comparo. Either way, both are nice rides. I love my Audi.
What are you guys talking about just look at the engine. BMW 3.2l 6 inline no turbo no nothing RS4 can only keep up with a Bi-turbo v6 or a v8. Put a nice turbo on the m3 and u can say goodby audi. I take the m3 on anny point. -Sound -Looks -Performance -Handeling
just due to the driver abilities.. tries to catch for the whole video, at the end, one instant he could and the vid gets to an end," ///m3..." I just don't get it.. unfair! possibly the rs4 should have regained the leadership.. I love m3 more than rs4s but this video is somehow not objective..
the f10 m5 is wack they should have had a 560hp v8 naturally aspirated and it could have been cool but sorry its not cool so its disqualified for being sucky. Audi has always been making turbo cars but BMW is doing it to be eco friendly yuk if that f10 had a v10 it would continue the coolness of the e60. the real reviewers in fifth gear said it was boring and I figured that from the start
RS4 has more torque! Noone cares about the horses nowadays! BMW squeezed V8 engine into M3, good, but it needs more torque to b able to compete with RS4. And please don't mention 335i, that car is just a toy!
god why does everyone have to argue about which is best like school kids?! both cars are great and i would have great difficulty choosing between the two.
an welcher stelle vom video macht der audi den m3 platt? auch nach mehrmaligem anschauen kann ich die stelle nicht finden....
Are those stock ?
The RS4 in this movie has a 2.7 BiTurbo V6 engine. The RS4 with the 4.2 V8 you're talking about is the 2007+ model.
@wedrive525it
what about the new m5 f10?
Can you tell me exactly what they have no Idea of?
0-100km/h RS4 4.7 M3 4.8
0-160km/h RS4 11.0 M3 11.0
1/4 mile RS4 13.0 M3 13.2
Nurburgring M3 8:22 RS4 8:25
So, on straight line speed the RS4 just edges it but around a track the M3 seems to have a slight edge so they balance out.
the Rs4 in this video which is the B5 model, has a 2.7 twin turbo (or bi-turbo as audi call it)engine. the newer model (the B7) uses a natuaraly aspirated V8... so your half right.
I love how the vid cuts off as soon as the pass was made. I can only guess that the pass didnt last long :)
I never said it is a B7.
It´s a B5 RS4 V6TT with Chiptuning by ABT.
In the first stage this car had 420hp and later:
460PS (P Max = 338KW) bei 6945 U/min. Max. drehzahl bei 7250.
618NM bei 4531 U/min.
20 grad und 974 hpc druck.
P-rad von 258KW bei 256km/h an den Rädern.
This looks like an older rs4 with twin turbo v6 (only had double pipes on the one side, stationwagon/avant, and older taillights). The newer rs4 (in the US) are sedans, unless they sold the late model rs4 avant in europe. They never sold these tt v6 rs4 in the USA. You can convert an older (2000-2002) s4 into an rs4 with upgrade turbo, intercooler and maybe fuel system.
since when did 'the' get replaced by 'tha'?
@fehraltorf95 Right, you obviously don't know what you are talking about. Have you seen DTM? or Le Mans? Or BTCC? Or Group B Rally? I'm not a Audi fanboy, what I I'm pretty sure that they know how to make a car handle well considering that they have won basically all great races in this world but Dakar.
The quattro is an excellent 4WD-system, the Torsten diff works great both at the track and in snow/mud.
I would be happy with either, but I like the subtle (underground racer) look that the RS4 has a lot more then the M3 which screams 'I am fast!'
you can see the different philosophies at work here... for brute power I think the nod goes to the Audi, but the BMW exhibits much better handling in the twisties, where the Audi seems to struggle a little with understeer.
Both very nice cars though, and I'd be happy with either in my garage...
this is a REAL video!! =)
@wedrive525it True - But... The Audi's lack character due to less steering feel and the dull experience which the quattro system offers. The better overall driving experience is the lighter, sharper, RWD M3. If you buy a car based on what a stop watch says and not on driver fulfillment and character then grab the RS4 :)
Actually, the RS4 in this video has about 380hp vs M3's 335hp (roughly) But then, it is an estate and weighs no doubt significantly more.
The fact is they are both great cars and a few hundreds of a second here or there doesn't make much difference. It's obvious, though, that the RS4 driver is going too wide on the corners and leaving his flank open.
I personally prefer the E90 M3 to the RS4, but I like both. Its a good thing that people like what they like, otherwise everyone driving a sports car would be driving a ZR1 for this price..
Some parts of the track is advantageous to the M3 but some others to the RS4. It's really a tight match. Don't know if the M3 really take over cause the video cut.
if the video would be named Audi RS 4 vs Bmw M3 than more Audi fans would watch it (due to search key words) so "Audi" would be better according to the commens or something like this... I would say both cars are awesome! I just simply love both brands and the Benz too!
The R8 Rival is the BMW Z10, if it ever comes out. R8 is "supercar" territory.
Best of luck getting around those corners ;)
0:38 a rock hits the M3's windshield!
trance matzl you are wright! and the audi rs4 is a family car and the m3 is a sport coupe!
agreed. but if you ask me I think both of them drove really nice.
I think you need to do a little research yourself. The Audi A4 series was based Volkswagen's B5 Platform, which was shared with the 4th generation Passat, and i really don't understand why that would be a bad thing?
It's obvious that an RS4 is too heavy and has too much understeering in the original trim. It's not made for a racetrack with tight curves, it's a car for the Autobahn
i feel like i'm watching a gran turismo replay/race =D
well the hard news for you, chum, is that Autocar ran a test of V8 RS4 vs E46 M3 last year and the M3 came out ahead, as has been the case with at least one other reputable magazine. In any event, at this level of power and performance and with a capped 155mph, there is no 'ass kicking' they're just different and judging by the silliness of your comments, doubt you have more driving skill than anyone else to appreciate what tiny differences there may be...
mee too
nice video and nice driver for real...
@demon23ro if you didn't notice in NASCAR there are turns. As much as people talk about NASCAR its more to the sport than just engine power. It's not my favorite auto sport but its still kinda cool. It does get boring but I would kill to do some NASCAR racing. And the straight line thing is gettin old yes we like 0 to 60 and quarter miles but trust me we honor good handling cars. And in this case your argument is irrelevant. Awd more grip Audi rules BMW does too but in this case rs4 ftw.
it is easier to run in the second, you have the front as a base and can get better in the corners. In addition to the pilot of the Audi seemed pretty bad.
The euro spec RS4 is only 3780LBS and has achieved 0-60 times of 4.3 seconds.
It's a fricking estate car - is there a labrador in there and granny driving too? It might go faster without the drag from the roofrack too :D
lol for sure. They do look nice and they really aren't that expensive.. at 108k base msrp they are less than or about the same as an M6.
have you can know that bmw is from 1998 ??
In actuality, the new M3 and RS4 are as near as damn it identical in performance- the RS4 even feels better to drive some reviewers think.
@wedrive525it did you know that the that rs4 is older than both the c63 and e92 m3 -______-. excuse me if im wrong but the 2005 s4 is faster (around a track) than a e46 m3 not rs4. the current rs6 is faster than the e60 m5 and the NEW e63 AMG. thats saying something. maybe Audi is a understatement. BMW is my fav overall company but Audi always makes the most powerful and user friendly cars.
I've owned both. The M3 wins on sound alone.
@Maximo8388 very true
yep, krapfeaster obviously has 1) a bad day 2) no understanding of the topic ^^
whats going through the M3 driver's mind - "God damn Volkswagen station wagon in my way this whole time!"
doubt itll eat it for breakfast its probably gona b another stalemate as with the b5 rs4 and the e46 m3
hey man! i dont say that bmw is not good cars but audi is more quality cars,more comfortable and quick as well! i have my own new s3 with chip and is over 300bhp and two of my friends had audi rs4 and bmw m3 e46 and i drove both cars! also i race rs4 with e46 and we beat e46 couple of times!! so i know both cars very well.. but i know the new m3 is very very good but i said before is much newer than audi rs4 2007 and has more technical improvements!!
finaly some post with a real audi rs4 and not a tdi!
you are right
What does the new 335i have to keep up with the competition?
O right, turbo's
rs4 is a far superior car. it should be compared somewhat to the m5... i mean it even costs 10k more, its not even a comparison.
BMW hasn´t a v6 - its 6 cylinders in row. Thats so special...
audi rocksss............audi everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....love that sound from the audi's cars....keep going better
Both are similar drivers, but an M3 is lighter and the corners is a bit faster
yeah 1 time i think due to the drivers error anyways.. the rs4 rocks the m3 on that circuit
different wheels drive, wheights, drivers, here was more traction control race than enginges
the bm would keep up with it round the track,but if you put a gallon of fuel in each,the bmw would win eventually
No, its the old one...
Im surprised the M3 didnt overtake the RS4 on the straights.
RS4 rules!! Thats it baby!!:) Quattro 4 life!!:)
no.. it was in response to 69lol69 he was talkinga bout how the audi is faster than the bmw
yah... that M3 is eating the RS4 alive in the corners. But the RS4 is quite powerful~
audi puts very big and strong engines in their cars but they have no idea of the rest that belongs to a car
hey man the new m3 is quicker but the last model is much slower than rs4!! The rs4 is one year older than the new m3 so the new m3 it has more technical improvements!! so...
wach this video bmw 330 xi
maybe it should be the M5 vs. the R(Real) S(Slow) 4 ...
this must be hard news for you BMW lovers but this is the old RS4 with the V6 and it can kick the M3 ass any time M3 343 hp vs RS4 380 hp and don't get me wrong i like the M3 RS4 is just quicker
the bmw driver had better skill than the audi driver. See the fast cornering on the m3. The brake timing is very important on the track. the m3 will pass the audi because of the better driver
Audi cars are so luxorious and also so fast. It's heaven for me! BMW cars are fast and nice too, but it's not audi. I don't know why I prefer the Audi than BMW. Maybe the audi looks more commonly then BMW and that is the reason why I much more like audi!!
The BMW's driver handles the curves better than the audi's.
joel you have to be kidding man look how the rs4 zooms out on the bmw c'mon man.. you can see the M3 is beatins it heart out to get to the Rs4
@wedrive525it Make a youtube search of Audi RS 4 Vs M3 Vs C63 - Top gear show. There you will see just how much GRIP ( i would call it understeer to be honest..) the RS 4 has on a racing track vs an M3. Also check out season 16, episode 5 of Top Gear, M3 vs RS5, and then, tell me which car is the one that HANDLES BETTER.
As for straight line speed, check my channel, i have an M3 vs R8 4.2 drag race, from 30 to 180 MPH.
Not very impressive for the RWD 2-door coupe with a carbon fibre roof to be only 70kg lighter then an AWD 4-door sedan with a steel roof.
And where i can put my dog in this m3? :D
It is impossible to beat a Bmw M3 with a Audi RS4 on the track!
m3 has a better driver, has a better line at all times
the m3 is a car made for track not for straight line
@demon23ro ps i wanna see that m3 win against the real r8 the v10 one -___-. there is a video of a e63 estate beating the v8.
this bmw its newer one and audi is older (1998)
Old Audi and Bm on a video.
Audi has much more grip on a road, much more delicious to drive! Prefer Audi
doesnt matter top speed means nothing on the track
big up to the rs4 thats why they put an rs4 engine in a lamborghini
what i saw in the video was that the audi rs4 passed by u like u both were stoped and braked after that. He wasnt even in race maby he saw u racing and just humiliated u both lol
RS4 RULES!! Thats it QUattro for life baby!!
exactly!!!
But the m5 owned the rs4 in a different program
Yes ! "TURBO" this is turbo vs NA. If the M3 has a supercharged or a turbo, what will be the Audi end up ? Ans: one lap behind the M3..ha ha ha....
funny how all the youtubers are audi fans. they have no idea that the e46 M3 is a true track car while their rs4 station wagon.. just isnt. Drive an audi wagon, then drive a proper track prept M3, tell me what you think audi fans;) dont even need to argue my point.
The RS4's Driver is sucks. Committed several errors, of course, The RS4 is the best.
This video who made the difference was the M3's Driver.
My RS4 is much more stable than that under braking. The guy driving the Audi is not the most skilled, and he misses a lot of apexes. It be more interesting to see sedan vs. sedan, for a true comparo. Either way, both are nice rides. I love my Audi.
why should i believe you??you wrote 4 words without any sence?!
What are you guys talking about just look at the engine.
BMW 3.2l 6 inline no turbo no nothing
RS4 can only keep up with a Bi-turbo v6 or a v8.
Put a nice turbo on the m3 and u can say goodby audi.
I take the m3 on anny point.
-Sound
-Looks
-Performance
-Handeling
just due to the driver abilities.. tries to catch for the whole video, at the end, one instant he could and the vid gets to an end," ///m3..." I just don't get it.. unfair!
possibly the rs4 should have regained the leadership.. I love m3 more than rs4s but this video is somehow not objective..
yep , is a family car but is faster then the m3 e46
the f10 m5 is wack they should have had a 560hp v8 naturally aspirated and it could have been cool but sorry its not cool so its disqualified for being sucky. Audi has always been making turbo cars but BMW is doing it to be eco friendly yuk if that f10 had a v10 it would continue the coolness of the e60. the real reviewers in fifth gear said it was boring and I figured that from the start
it was obvious the bmw was faster he didnt seem to keen on passing though
it's always easier to drive in 1th position huh.... what when bmw drives in 1th position, he plays the audi of the road
yeah, right... and I have, let´s see..
a private jet, my own island, 3 ferraris, 2 lambos, 16 wifes, 3 hayabusas, 8 hotels, 1 F1 team. believing me?
RS4 has more torque! Noone cares about the horses nowadays! BMW squeezed V8 engine into M3, good, but it needs more torque to b able to compete with RS4. And please don't mention 335i, that car is just a toy!
dude he just took the corner wide he saw it then... RAAAAAAAA.. RAAAAAAAA!!!!
rs4 has 2.7biturbo, the m3 3.2 N/A
Audi??? Simply the Best