Skydive AFF stage 5 - Fail
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
- My nerves where high this jump and it really showed in my rushed, frantick and poor performance. It is likley the cause of my instabillaty at deployment.
At 5,000ft AGL I move back from the instructor and turn 90 degree's ready to deploy. At 1:37 in the video I then lose control for a terrifying 12 seconds before finaley getting my chute out at 3000ft AGL. I managed to return to the DZ with little trouble. My instructor however was forced to land in the middle of the horse track, hence his upset words at the end of the video.
I'll never forget my first skydive!
That wind is enough to blow you to the next country !!!!
Can hardly reach back and pull !
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It's all about relaxing and arch. You did ok but look tense. Breathe... Relax. And at pull time "arch, reach, look, throw, relaaaaaaax"
Solid work though... Remember you're still better than the 99% of people who never jump out of a plane.
Shouldn't that be "Remember you're still stupider than the 99% of people who never jump out of a plane."
You, sir, have a false and highly dysfunctional to the point of self-destruction value system. Fix it before it's too late.
So jumping out of a plane makes one superior over others? Now I get why narcissist are so prone to dangerous things to prove they have guts!
@@yellowdayz1800 no it just makes them superior to the people who come on just to comment hateful things about us jumping out of an airplane.
@@Reaperdeathpunch , ok yes I should not consider you all narcs. But it is way out there, so risky behavior. I agree that people should not say mean things about others. Sometimes we just need a reminder.
Sandy Heesom skydiving is only risky in the sense that if you don’t do everything properly you will almost certainly die... that is not the reason the majority of skydivers do it... the bliss feeling of flying through the sky is unmatched to many things and unfortunately the people who are too scared to try it will condemn it as stupidity...
Did my AFF with these guys pretty recently. Absolute professionals, and it's a real beautiful DZ as well. If the instructors in this one are who I think they are, they're both 4000+ jumpers by now.
Relax, its the hardest thing to teach. I mean, you are jumping out a plane and are expected to chill???
But you pulled, and both of you are safe to try this again. Silver linings.....
Goood words, bruv !
Blue skies :)
+Erik Borgersen no worries, im a novice jumper myself. every jump is a learning experience, even if it goes off without a hitch.
It took me a lot of jumps to just relax in free fall and bloody hell it helped with stability and turning once I could relax. Sometimes on the plane I just tell myself before I jump "hard arch and accept the fall". Accept basically just being chill out and accept it.
I like to remind myself that "relax" in skydive means loose muscles, not chill brain. Of course brain is active, and it can tell muscles to go limp enough for good arch.
Thank you for sharing this, it helps teach us some valuable lessons, I hope you’re doing alright!!
Can I just say that looks like a really scary place for a DZ. Its just trees and water for miles.
Doesn't really matter, if the drop is good and you pull at normal height there shouldn't be an issue on this DZ. Still I wonder which I would prefer, landing in trees or landing in a city. My DZ has a very large landing zone but has a city on its western side. Me and two others were once dropped way too far out west and couldn't see the ground due to total cloud cover (it's a Europe DZ). Pilot thought he had only wingsuit flyers with him (was last load, not full load) and typically wingsuit flyers want an exit way further from the DZ than normal. Pilot dropped us way out about 3 miles from the DZ. I had a very strong back wind flying a crossfire 109 but the distance was still a gamble. One of us took an alternate landing zone while I took the gamble and the other followed me. I barely made it to the edge of the DZ flying in deep brakes. This is the vid from th pov of the guy who followed me th-cam.com/video/pKLx7nE2Tfs/w-d-xo.html . Looking at that city below with no options to the side because the wind was so strong it would have just pushed me sideways I think I would prefer landing in trees like the guy in this vid than the option of needing to land in the city. I went to highschool there and knew the city, it was nothing but narrow streets, one small central plaza surrounded by buildings and a church. Very bad landing options.
It's where I did my course. Fantastic place with amazing instructors.
I had to do stage 5 four or 5 times too. No fault of instructors - they were great. Body control is hard and you don't get long to practice it!
Pilot always dropped us off on right place so always landed in the middle. Never even thought about the trees. This jump just looks unlucky
Moruya (NSW) Australia. Really nice DZ. Water does go for miles as its the Pacific Ocean.
@@eddiedaengineer Tunnel time helps with this a great deal
@@rocket1818 Totally. I spent an hour or so in a tunnel in Singapore which helped a great deal, but never actually got back to jumping though :(
I honestly think skydiving instructor have a very stressful job.
maybe flight instructors can compare
@@rnzoli No, skydiving instructors have a much more stressful job. At least the flight instructors get to stay in the perfectly good aircraft instead of jumping out of it.
@@kurtsvensson4362 no, I disagree :) in worst case, a skydiving instructor can save himself alone, because he has his own chute. With an aircraft, if the student crashes it, the instructor will be in the crashing aircraft too....
From one aspect however, it's true that skydiving has more injuries that flying with an aircraft. The reason is wind, uneven terrain, so strained ankles, smaller bruises are far more common, than in flight instruction :)
@@rnzoli You do realise that the flight instructor has full control of the aircraft in case the student does something stupid right?
@@kurtsvensson4362 most of the time, yes. And then there are other times, when the students can make suddent (serious) mistakes in a split second and the flight instructors don't have enough time to correct by taking over control. This happens when flying close to the ground, landing or takeoff. You can read such a recent accident here: data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/102959/pdf
(should lead to WPR21FA170).
Another big gotcha for flight instructors is to fly with experienced pilots. I personally know 2 instructors, who sustained life-threatening injuries, because they trusted their student too much, based on their prior history. So by the time they took control was too late to prevent a crash. Interestingly both accidents happened over rising terrain, one leading to a stall and spin, the other was a CFIT because they entered a cloud layer on the side of the mountain.
So I think there may be a higher student-injury rate per jump in skydiving, but there may be a higher instructor-injury rate per flight in flight instruction. I am not sure though, whether such statistics exist or not.
As long as you paid your beer fine, apologized to your instructor, and learnt from it then good on ya mate!
No friends below 3000 feet
Before you start your Aff, get yourself an Alti and spend 10 minutes a day (for at least a few weeks) sitting on the lounge and every 10 seconds turning your wrist to see where you're at. Sounds boring but it trains the brain.
Word! i didn't get why my groundschool instructor said to wear the alti's all day, now i know ;)
use a watch, or alti trainer, estimate around 10 seconds for the first 1,000 feet, then 5 seconds for each 1,000 feet after that. time awareness helps with altitude awareness.
Hi looking for information I want to start skydiving let's say I have the qualifications to jump solo how much is each jump and can you jump multiple times a day
That should say "arch, reach, LOCATE, throw". Autocorrect bit me again.
Pull on time. Yeesh. The "instructor" never should have let that jump get that low.
william brennan probably kept flashing the pull finger to him and he did a 360 in that direction every time lol
As someone that does not Skydive, is that the main thing he did wrong? Pull too low?
@@griffen5748 yep. Number one rule is pull on time. Number 2 is pull stable. Getting fabric over your head is number 1 priority on the bottom of every skydive
@@griffen5748 the main thing he didnt do was arching his back enough. if he had done that, he could have maintained stability and deploy his chute 10 seconds earlier. even with that, he still should have pulled because the main priority is to pull immediately, even if unstable.
Unfortunately not. Hence his swearing. The landing area is that small rectangular patch of grass to the east (coast side) of the runway. He ended up landing in the middle of the horse track. The big round green patch of grass you see. Thankfully everyone was okay, and it was a quick little drive in the van to pick him up.
60 Seconds of free fall from 10,000 feet.....AMAZING. :-(
At 0:19 you can see the blue altimeter on left side of the screen. It shows approximately 12500 feet.
@@ErsanYolcu I’m not a sky diver but one comment said first 10 sec is 1000 ft then every 5 sec 1000ft after that, so from 12500 ft that’s not much left to play with especially with a 60 sec free fall from doing the math = 1,500 ft left if I got that right.
I remember having a tough time stopping the turns I was required to do, but then I figured out that dropping my opposite should just a hair, stopped me from turning on a dime!
Is this an Aussie DZ? Sounds like it from the instructors vocab.
I failed AFF 5 more badly than that. I got in a flat spin the instructor stopped. It was a learning experience.
Looks like someone’s up for a carton of beer
I wanted to shout…..ARCH!!!
Did your instructor make it back to the drop zone?
Nice shot of the jump! Wicked captured detail
That looked like the start of a nasty line twist
That wasn’t that bad. As an AFF instructor I’ve had a lot worse level 5s.
Ok, so I know nothing about skydiving. So 3,000ft was too low? This is why your instructor did not land near the DZ?
+Aaron Proctor Late reply, but yes. Typical pull is at about 5k during AFF. Instructor having to pull at 3k left him quite low, and it's dangerous since it gave him little time to react if his main had an issue and he had to cutaway. But, he had little choice as he had to ensure the safety of his student first.
Dan Linn with stage 5 though, you wave off and deploy at 4000. so the instructor should be ready for it
in the end you lived and you learned.. great jump.. keep it up.. where is this DZ..
+Jason foley Moruya with Skydive Oz
Sorry mate but I could not stop laughing. Anyway, you got it to the hangar.This is Moruya, NSW isn't it? Beautiful place to jump.
Didn't look that bad. Any jump you can walk away from is a good one. Any jump you land on target is an excellent one.
Where is this place? Very beautiful.
I'm looking for places for learning AFF now.
This place is Moruya, New South Wales, Australia.
Compared to what i did in my aff. That was amazing
Haha hat happened?
Great spot coach!
I'm jumping this weekend for AFF 5, have any advice for me for the jump? What is it like doing the 360 turns and docking?
My advice is...do not do like this guy did. ARCH !!! And don't pull low. Watch your altimeter. HAVE FUN.
Don't flail, smooth chest and shoulder turns, don't swing the arms to turn. That's just going to make you unstable until you have been comfortable up there for a while. You can see a lot of flailing in the video, the legs or feet are kicking constantly, knees are dropping, arms flailing. AFF4 is the harder one of the two, AFF5 should be pretty straight forward, practice body position and that's all it is.
Obviously pulling at the right altitude is a pass, everything below is an automatic fail.
GL.
Go do some tunnel work at ifly and you’ll kill it!
Oooooo that dreadful flatline sound of the 3rd dittr alarm.....
I'm staying on the ground.
get some wind tunnel time if you can, it helps
hahah beer fine after this?
Hes skilled to have made it to the track.
Australia? Come up short there and you land in the crocodile swamp. HAHA
I hope they made it back to the DZ before they touched down.
I just wanted to shake you into relaxing lol. I'm sure you did great tho. I just recently got my license last weekend. Had to repeat a couple as well. Posted them on my page
I'm sure he did a 360 in the direction of the instructors pull finger every time 🤣🤣
were you able to relax your first time.
Pull...lol I do understand just began my AFF its alil harder than I thought basically just to relax and not tence up RELAXING IS THE KEY & arch
I never understood why do people twitch like that? Just arch and don't move - it worked for me fine when I was beginner!
Andrew C
1. You will never experience swimming while riding on the boat - same goes for plane
2. I never saw perfectly good plane in my entire life
3. The doors were open
Andrew C love the response
Linus Magnus Sick story.
Linus Magnus There was a time ni which all of us were beginners... Learning is what matters. The guy was nervous, and in the AFF you deploy at 5k because of a reason: you are learning and you might have problems, so you have those extra seconds. Remember? :)
Ruben Cardenal
I was on static line :D But yeah!
Haha Terry didnt sound very happy
What DZ is this?
Line twisties....?
That dude was fighting that wind like Ali.
That’s a terrible DZ for students. Seems very bad to be long there. Not much safe, off landing.
Hm, what is the right way to handle such situations?
Don’t skydive
Was this in Moroya skydive?
isn't that area is a bit too foresty for learning to jump
@Mich Po, I think so
@Mich Po, it should be ok
Don't worry I already failed level 5 2 times. Taking it 3rd time soon.
I have fail lvl3 2 times now :(
Tunnel time anyone? That helped me tremendously
Did you guys finish aff?
Season eneded. Had now 3 hours of tunnel, planning to continue in beginning of May.
@@maxim_mahadeva wow! That's a lot. That's awesome! I have 17 jumps so far working on my A license. I'm a little sketchy about renting equipment so I'm trying to save up and get a rig. Full face helmet will make jumping so much less stressful too! I got a kiss and it's awesome!
No, but a mate of mine hails from there.
Where was the fail?
Great video, no music!
The most scary part was walk outside the plane
@K M, it's not for me
The scariest part of this is that fucking step they have to stand on, I'm afraid they'll hit their fucking chin on it. It's why I'm glad the planes I jump from, are just straight out the side of the plane, rather than out onto a step, then jump.
I would like to see the landing.
I’ll say before trying this do that indoor skydiving thing at least for a couple of months
Haha crazy guy open on his back:D
He looked a little special falling.
Yes it was. Do you have any affiliation?
I get anxious but yeah he was very unstable
I think I speak for everyone here, we all wanted to see the landing! Lol.
when doing my hop and pop I had my hand on the bar next to the door, the person who opened the door (twin otter) smashed my thumb between the bar and door it hurt like hell, I rolled out got stable and threw out my drogue and thus completed my hop and pop, after I landed I took off my glove and the thumb was smashed and bleeding I never worried about the jump I just wanted on the ground to get my thumb looked at. so I guess you can say I passed my hop and pop with flying colors (red)
sounds scary but at least you kept concentration and remembered what you had to do.
I certainly wouldn't call that a fail.
i would, he was flailing and trying to push the air with his hands to try to turn, and had a pretty bad canopy deployment. what he needs to do is RELAX and arch as much as he can so that he maintains stability and make small adjustments to maintain heading and turning.
Batemans Bay Australia! :) beautiful place.
Its close to Bateman's Bay. Its Moruya.
what camera?
I haven't jumped in many years, but I have to wonder at the quality of instruction going on now. I didn't see this level of poor control when I was jumping.
Mortgage, SENSW i think. I did an AFF THERE
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I am so afraid of heights there is no way I could ever jump out of a plane!!!
there must be a reason you are watching this then. Trying to get over your fears? then you should do it at least tandem
@@asserswelam im afraid of heights on ladders etc but im fairly certain i would have no problem jumping, i get drawn here to these vids!
AHAHAHAHA his face at 1.22 lmao. im doing my full aff course in may, cannot wait
I just finished mine! Woohoo so worth it. Posted all my vids too
This DZ is tough for student
all trees and water make it less forgiveness
If you're not relaxed when you jump then you're just not drinking enough beforehand. Try taking a couple of cans in the plane with you! 😜
these are some nice comments
Hope you have at least B license now an laughing at this jump;)
Is it really that hard to judge altitude when you're up there? I knew exactly how high i was when i went skydiving. I could see objects, buildings, cars, and what looked like ants now turning into people. Then I knew it was time to pull the chute. It's not that hard. You can see the ground. Is it not natural for people to have 4th dimensional perception while skydiving because we were not meant to fly? Is it because we're in a forbidden zone and we were never intended to fall from that high? Why is it I seem to have excellent ground/depth perception while almost everyone I talk to doesn't?
I agree, when I did my first aff jump I knew my altitude the entire way down, even though I forgot all of the hand signals lol, sensory over load lol, and now I'm waiting for the cold weather to go away to start jumping again
Perris? I'm going to be AFFing too. I'm waiting for winter too lol. Yeah i forgot to check my altimeter when I tandem jumped, but I always was altitude aware. I know how high up we were the whole time. Have you seen that video of two skydivers who forgot to pull their chute and their AAD fired at 100 feet up?
Mike Green no, I live in michigan, and yes I did see that video. Crazy how if the aad didn't fire they would have gone splat
I've only been one time but when I jumped I was so entranced by the free fall I completely forgot to pull until my instructor told me. I think I would have eventually but it probably would have been at an altitude where if something went wrong I wouldn't have had time to fix it. Also I have very poor depth perception so some one like me needs an altimeter I don't think everyone does though.
jordans92169 i wasnt able to tell how fast the planet was getting until my 4th jump, when i became aware of everything, body position,altitude,instructor location,ground rush.......
Whats the problem? Yes he was unstable but you both pulled in time.
The problem is he's not flat, stable, and holding a heading. He needs to relax, and smile.
How did you even get to stage 5 my dude lol That arch and position was terrible. But hey, people make mistakes, hopefully you pasted the second time
Lol, looks like a swim lesson, not AFF
A lot of comments on here telling the guy (girl?) to just relax, and I absolutely agree. Something that always worked for me was popping a couple of xanax about an hour before takeoff, then smoking half a joint immediately before I climb into the plane.
Just saying, it's actually against regulations to be on any kind of drug when skydiving, so if they are watching you smoke a joint, they are supposed to stop you from making the jump.
Why fail?
I don’t know how you avoid the urge to kick your legs in order to gain control. That’s my natural reaction
Some people react like they are in a swimming pool. If you think about it, after 5 jumps you have only had 5 minutes of freefall experience. I wouldn't call it a total fail, but safety wise he needs to calm down a bit.
Your his instructor and should have pulled for him.
Started a bad spin wen trying to pull handle
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I see swamp and crocs 😅
Why’s the instructor pissed that was his spot, he climbed out first he’s in charge and sometimes things dirty and students pull low, but no need to drop F bombs lol
Nobody heard him, calm down
@@bar4146 so far 278k have....😎
You're jumping out of a plane at 13k feet! It's ok to swear lol
Clap for those who think this is real fail 😅😅😅😅😅
Love all of the whiners. Stay home. Drink milk w your cookies …… actually statistically more dangerous driving over to the jump facility 20 min away than the actual activity. That is all of the enlightenment u will get out of this pilgrim….,you’re welcome…..
That wasn't a fail
It's okay tbh
good work, i mean you were not 100% stsble but you what you needed to do, so you should have passed that.
He pulled to low, that's an automatic fail.
What a terrible DZ. You have no options for landing off. Youre gong in trees or the swamp.
What a terrible drop zone.
I cant see you did much wrong?? The wind looked really strong so you were being blown off balance.
“The wind”
Bad instructor
@enta2k, if you say he's a bad instructor, tell me why. And also, if you say he's a bad instructor, try being a skydiving instructor and see whether it is nice and easy being an instructor.
Nice spot..not,
+JoakimVG That's why you check the winds aloft
Have the democrats do this without parachutes.
Fake & nonsense
Even with a fisheye lens its flat as fuk