awesome!! I've trained in choy lay fut for 15 years in England and our drills are identical!!! nice to see ither people suffering through the same pain as me!!! :D
Lee was one of the first to recognise the composite nature of choy li fut. It is a predessor of jeet kun do in that it is a hybrid of southern and northern shaolin systems. An excllent exponent of the system will dynamically interchange both linear and circular attacks and defence. Both pwun and Sow are deadly defensive and offensive manouvres. A truly beaitiful system. I miss it greatly.You guys have done it justice here and have demonstrated some classical training methods. Good work.🤜🤚
@@willmurray222 please provide your evidence for this, I have never read Bruce denigrate a particular system with perhaps the exception of his comparison between Karate and Chinese Gung Fu. "Choy Li Fut is the most effective system that I've seen for fighting more than one person. [It] is one of the most difficult styles to attack and defend against. Choy Li Fut is the only style [of kung fu] that traveled to Thailand to fight the Thai boxers and hadn't lost." Bruce Lee *1 *1.The Way of the Warrior: Martial Arts and Fighting Skills from Around the World, Author: Chris Crudell, Hardcover: 360 pages, Publisher: Dorling Kindersley (1 Oct 2008), Language: English, ISBN 1-4053-3095-3 ISBN 978-1-4053-3095-4.
Lee 's letters to someone he said some student should quit wing chun and go to CLF school because CLF uses the moves that wing chun throws out.. Just so you know I studyed CLF for 10 years( Wong Ha ).
@@willmurray222 Well will seeing as we are throwing credentials out there. I studied under Grandmaster Patrick Chang Law from the British Choy Li Fut association from 8 to 18 and I find your view on CLF very surprising. I will start with points of agreement. Without Doubt Lee's foundational system was Wing Chun ( which was astute of Lee, as imho it is without equal as a defensive system). To say they are opposites is a simplification. As you know Choy Lu Fut was a hybrid system from Shaolin, combining both the Long range Northern systems and the Southern shorter systems. Uniquely it fuses both linear and circular attack and defence ( Sow, Pwun, ect) This would explain Lee's higher regard for it. Grandmaster Law was a contemporary of Lee in Hong Kong at the time of his ascendancy. It is well known in folklore surroundings Lee's Life, that an early encounter with a CLF practitioner left an indelible impression on Lee and his thinking. As you also know, the root philosophy of Jeet Kung do is the incorporation of the effective of each style into your own fighting system. It is precisely because Lee did not engage in pointless quarrels about " best system" but utilised the best of all systems, that makes your take surprising. I have found no evidence that Lee had a poor view of Choy Li Fut, quite the opposite. It is arguably the forerunner to JKD.
US Wing Chun Kung Fu Academy - I noticed that too as well as the possibility of hyperextending the elbow on the wide hooks with a near straightener arm. Does Wing Chun has strikes like that?
Great traditional training .choy li fut has always been amazing fight art most knock out in south east asia Sifu Jack Tibetan Lama kung fu and liu ho ba fa studied under Grand master wai lun chois bare knuckle champion south east asia 1971 in singapore back then they fought 8 days out of 13 my teacher had many friends in choy li fut .
Your school is great pretty amazing students true kung fu warriors .much respect to your school your students and your teacher and your master and your style .
I'm 2 weeks into my choy lay fut life.(Lee Koon Hung Choy lay fut florida).. hard training is where it's at. Like that you guys are training very hard. You have a subscriber !
@choyleefutkid1 what was next? the white guy who you are laughing at and calling too slow and stiff competed in a sanda match a few months after this video was filmed and was able to win against his asian opponent who had 11 years more experience than him. Race means nothing
I agree with your viewpoint I was the only white guy in a fully Asian martial arts school and strangely my instructor told me the highest level of forms in combat because he saw me as the most loyal
Excellent training some of my friend s and students study choy li. Fut. I ts an amazing fight art . I think more people should study it. Traditional trainingis where it's at backin 1973 I began my training in chinatown chicago with only a few non Chinese I was turned down by chinese masters but not sifu Grand mater Wai lun chois I was lucky
good training. i like and practice Wing Chun , Choy Li Fut and Aikido. they have different concepts, i find that they are supplementary to each other. the important thing is to find a martial art(s) which suit you and you improve and learn and have fun. Cross-training is nothing wrong . thanks for posting.
Neat vid. Out of curiosity, that swinging punch that you do to the Century hit pad near the beginning of the video... what is the impact point supposed to be? Is that your outer finger knuckles, your palm, or the inside of your wrist? Thanks!
Deff a style of KungFu from Both Northern and Southern China I heard about were a block can be used as a strike and a strike used as a block and it’s relies on relaxed power I wasn’t understanding the formes at first they were to me moved u learn by doing the moves over and over I had some Great instructors who worked with me on that this is how this is being used or what this can be used for but the Choy Lay Fut I go to I deff would recommend so looking forward going back
What do you do to keep from pulling or damaging your shoulders? I get not being fully extended, but these big circular motions that end in impact seem to be very hard on the rotator cuffs.
Damaging your shoulder is a possibility. To avoid it there are a lot of shoulder warm up exercises that should be done before training. Also just like a martial artist must do additional leg and hip stretches to be able to kick well, a choy lay fut practitioner needs to do quite a bit of upper body flexibility training. I also recommend additional weight training to strengthen the shoulders. Finally you have to listen to your body and build power gradually, if it hurts its wrong
+Michael Kowalski There's a video on our channel called "Preparatory exercises " those will help. There are more but I would recommend you find a qualified instructor in your area before you begin practicing these techniques
What would be the difference between Choy Li Fut and Mantis? I see a lot of those northern long ass arm reaching attacks with full body whole extension with both styles. Are they both primarily punching arts?
i heard that choy li fut is one of the most effective fighting systems for facing multiple opponents at the same time. if this is true, can you explain why? also, if one of the strikes shown in this video is intercepted with a straighter, faster strikes, then what is the solution in this system?
I'm practicing in a Hung Sing academy here in Brazil. But I think it's too low physical training. We just learn to repeat a few movements just like if it was a dance repetition. Everything is too controled and under commands that I cant have freedom to use the kicks and punches by myself. I concluded that Im being fooled because im not learning to be a warrior stronger but just a puppeteer. I'd like to kick and punch as you re doing and to really learn to defend myself Am I wrong to say this? In my opinion, the real kung fu is not like my academy shows to be
You seem want to think that Lee had a high regard for CLF. He was wing chun which was a rival style. Jut kun do has no CLF in it. I love CLF and so do you. We don't need Lee's approval. CLF will live on . Jut kun do will fade away.
All this condition is great and all, but is wasted training for competition since everyone wraps their hands and wears padded gloves. It's not like the old days where people bare knuckle brawl and this type of conditioning is crucial otherwise you just end up breaking your hands.
OK, but are these folks necessarily training for 'competition' ? Surely the ability to blast straight through someone's guard and backfist them in the face has to count for something on the street ? It's all academic, and comes down to the man not the art, but CLF wouldnt have survived this long without building a reputation for effectiveness where it matters. We can kick the can re BJJ / MT / whatever till we run out of keystrokes, but ultimately its just you and someone who wants to seriously hurt you - no referee, medical staff or timekeeper. I dont have a dog in this fight - I've never set foot in a CLF kwoon - but if these guys are serious, conditioning their hands and forearms makes a lot of sense to me. Next time you're in a club, check out the watches / bracelets and rings worn by some of the other male patrons - I dont know why the bouncers let some of them in, but that's what many of these techniques are going to have to smash through on their way to their intended targets, and that means conditioning.
This is me in a nutshell. I train in Choy Li Fut because I love it, but training for compettion is something I am definitely not interested in. I've visited boxing gyms too, and I know for a fact a lot of them train for health, not getting in the ring in front of an audience.
awesome!! I've trained in choy lay fut for 15 years in England and our drills are identical!!! nice to see ither people suffering through the same pain as me!!! :D
Hey Rob, what school and Sifu? I studied under Grandmaster Patrick Chang Law and Master Judd Whitelaw.
Lee was one of the first to recognise the composite nature of choy li fut. It is a predessor of jeet kun do in that it is a hybrid of southern and northern shaolin systems. An excllent exponent of the system will dynamically interchange both linear and circular attacks and defence. Both pwun and Sow are deadly defensive and offensive manouvres. A truly beaitiful system. I miss it greatly.You guys have done it justice here and have demonstrated some classical training methods. Good work.🤜🤚
Lee was wing chun. He wrote bad things about CLF. The two style are opposite.
@@willmurray222 please provide your evidence for this, I have never read Bruce denigrate a particular system with perhaps the exception of his comparison between Karate and Chinese Gung Fu.
"Choy Li Fut is the most effective system that I've seen for fighting more than one person. [It] is one of the most difficult styles to attack and defend against. Choy Li Fut is the only style [of kung fu] that traveled to Thailand to fight the Thai boxers and hadn't lost." Bruce Lee *1
*1.The Way of the Warrior: Martial Arts and Fighting Skills from Around the World, Author: Chris Crudell, Hardcover: 360 pages, Publisher: Dorling Kindersley (1 Oct 2008), Language: English, ISBN 1-4053-3095-3 ISBN 978-1-4053-3095-4.
Lee 's letters to someone he said some student should quit wing chun and go to CLF school because CLF uses the moves that wing chun throws out.. Just so you know I studyed CLF for 10 years( Wong Ha ).
@@willmurray222 Well will seeing as we are throwing credentials out there. I studied under Grandmaster Patrick Chang Law from the British Choy Li Fut association from 8 to 18 and I find your view on CLF very surprising. I will start with points of agreement. Without Doubt Lee's foundational system was Wing Chun ( which was astute of Lee, as imho it is without equal as a defensive system). To say they are opposites is a simplification. As you know Choy Lu Fut was a hybrid system from Shaolin, combining both the Long range Northern systems and the Southern shorter systems. Uniquely it fuses both linear and circular attack and defence ( Sow, Pwun, ect) This would explain Lee's higher regard for it. Grandmaster Law was a contemporary of Lee in Hong Kong at the time of his ascendancy. It is well known in folklore surroundings Lee's Life, that an early encounter with a CLF practitioner left an indelible impression on Lee and his thinking. As you also know, the root philosophy of Jeet Kung do is the incorporation of the effective of each style into your own fighting system. It is precisely because Lee did not engage in pointless quarrels about " best system" but utilised the best of all systems, that makes your take surprising. I have found no evidence that Lee had a poor view of Choy Li Fut, quite the opposite. It is arguably the forerunner to JKD.
i have to admit i am often verry critical of traditional martial arts but this realy impressed me.
I personally practice choy li fut. I gotta say, you guys are doing some impressive stuff down there.
Looks like a very effective system for the streets.
Definitely Yes!!!
@kwansao we also train to build strength and flexibility in the shoulders and waist. With proper training anyone could do it
Excellent video of some training techniques.
it look very powerful...
Awesome thank you so much for your sharing your CLF techniques, love it.
good training. you build a lot of power. very hard on the shoulders though, i couldn't really take it.
US Wing Chun Kung Fu Academy - I noticed that too as well as the possibility of hyperextending the elbow on the wide hooks with a near straightener arm. Does Wing Chun has strikes like that?
Great stuff. I used to do CLF but we mainly concentrated on the forms and missed out on this. Greats drills and conditioning.
Getting hit by a gwa choy is an eye opener for the sao choy. Boom! Nice footage and great technical execution.
I love CLF!
you can use the foreknuckles or palm. Because of the shape of that particular pad somtimes the whole forearm area hits it.
Great traditional training .choy li fut has always been amazing fight art most knock out in south east asia Sifu Jack Tibetan Lama kung fu and liu ho ba fa studied under Grand master wai lun chois bare knuckle champion south east asia 1971 in singapore back then they fought 8 days out of 13 my teacher had many friends in choy li fut .
Your school is great pretty amazing students true kung fu warriors .much respect to your school your students and your teacher and your master and your style .
Thats powerful hand techniques.
I'm 2 weeks into my choy lay fut life.(Lee Koon Hung Choy lay fut florida).. hard training is where it's at. Like that you guys are training very hard. You have a subscriber !
@choyleefutkid1 what was next? the white guy who you are laughing at and calling too slow and stiff competed in a sanda match a few months after this video was filmed and was able to win against his asian opponent who had 11 years more experience than him. Race means nothing
I agree with your viewpoint I was the only white guy in a fully Asian martial arts school and strangely my instructor told me the highest level of forms in combat because he saw me as the most loyal
Excellent training some of my friend s and students study choy li. Fut. I ts an amazing fight art . I think more people should study it. Traditional trainingis where it's at backin 1973 I began my training in chinatown chicago with only a few non Chinese I was turned down by chinese masters but not sifu Grand mater Wai lun chois I was lucky
Takes away the fancy fluttery grace movements in TMA. Nice! I want to see more of this in modern time
Good Drilling! My Choy Lee Fut, comes from Vernon Rieta Sifu (1975) student of Kong Buck Sam Sifu 😬
Very usefull stle ,strong, destroning,
who ever chose the music did a great job.
good training. i like and practice Wing Chun , Choy Li Fut and Aikido. they have different concepts, i find that they are supplementary to each other. the important thing is to find a martial art(s) which suit you and you improve and learn and have fun. Cross-training is nothing wrong . thanks for posting.
Principle very different in these styles. Pic a style and perfect its principles.
Ah, thanks for the info!
Neat vid. Out of curiosity, that swinging punch that you do to the Century hit pad near the beginning of the video... what is the impact point supposed to be? Is that your outer finger knuckles, your palm, or the inside of your wrist? Thanks!
Just started training. 😍💪
i remember dragonball z musik in the background , :D from the fight against freezer when goku build the genkidama
Amazing
Deff a style of KungFu from Both Northern and Southern China I heard about were a block can be used as a strike and a strike used as a block and it’s relies on relaxed power I wasn’t understanding the formes at first they were to me moved u learn by doing the moves over and over I had some Great instructors who worked with me on that this is how this is being used or what this can be used for but the Choy Lay Fut I go to I deff would recommend so looking forward going back
repetitive moves training tai chi means you can always look your opponent in the eyes and predict the strikes. very well done
What do you do to keep from pulling or damaging your shoulders? I get not being fully extended, but these big circular motions that end in impact seem to be very hard on the rotator cuffs.
Damaging your shoulder is a possibility. To avoid it there are a lot of shoulder warm up exercises that should be done before training. Also just like a martial artist must do additional leg and hip stretches to be able to kick well, a choy lay fut practitioner needs to do quite a bit of upper body flexibility training. I also recommend additional weight training to strengthen the shoulders. Finally you have to listen to your body and build power gradually, if it hurts its wrong
Thanks! Any specific exercises that you can recommend?
+Michael Kowalski There's a video on our channel called "Preparatory exercises " those will help. There are more but I would recommend you find a qualified instructor in your area before you begin practicing these techniques
+Hung Sing Martial Arts Association cool, thanks!
Warm up well, stretch and be patient witj your body.
@kustomhead You have to slightly bend your elbow when you do sow choy
Are you striking with the inside part of your hand or the forearm ?
For that "hook" strike in the end, what part of your fist are you supposed to land with ?
Grwat video!
With that music someone has to turn SSJ by the end of it. The video was good though.
Very impressive!
technical question - how do you guys feel about hitting those standing heavy bags vs hanging heavy bags?
Nice vid
Hi, in the last section, what do u fill Inside the white bag to strengthen ur hand ?
@K3hungsing in that case i didn't get proper training.
Love the Dragon Ball Z music. I really want to begin practicing this martial art someday.
What would be the difference between Choy Li Fut and Mantis? I see a lot of those northern long ass arm reaching attacks with full body whole extension with both styles. Are they both primarily punching arts?
mantis has more joint lock techniques and a lot sweep and takedown techniques.
i heard that choy li fut is one of the most effective fighting systems for facing multiple opponents at the same time. if this is true, can you explain why? also, if one of the strikes shown in this video is intercepted with a straighter, faster strikes, then what is the solution in this system?
Dont waste your time with kung fu, karate, etc...if you want really defend yourself in the streets, pratice boxing and brazilian jiu jitsu
@@lunaticpunter3560 Youre a dead man if you grapple on the streets
@@lunaticpunter3560 Choy Lee Fut has and will continue to be an effective art. As for BBJ I much prefer Judo and Catch Wrestling =D
@@lunaticpunter3560 go to chicago and defend yourself in the streets, let me know how that works out
nice vid
+like
I'm practicing in a Hung Sing academy here in Brazil. But I think it's too low physical training. We just learn to repeat a few movements just like if it was a dance repetition. Everything is too controled and under commands that I cant have freedom to use the kicks and punches by myself. I concluded that Im being fooled because im not learning to be a warrior stronger but just a puppeteer. I'd like to kick and punch as you re doing and to really learn to defend myself
Am I wrong to say this? In my opinion, the real kung fu is not like my academy shows to be
That all depends, how long have you been there?
Interesting horizontal close fist slap! kup technique? Don't practice it in R Lee
Koon Hung style
A lot of this stuff looks similar to Goju-Ryu training.
You seem want to think that Lee had a high regard for CLF. He was wing chun which was a rival style. Jut kun do has no CLF in it. I love CLF and so do you. We don't need Lee's approval. CLF will live on . Jut kun do will fade away.
Basic kung fu
Bin Kalp
Seeing to much bent leg in the side -horse. Straight like a 2×4
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All this condition is great and all, but is wasted training for competition since everyone wraps their hands and wears padded gloves. It's not like the old days where people bare knuckle brawl and this type of conditioning is crucial otherwise you just end up breaking your hands.
OK, but are these folks necessarily training for 'competition' ? Surely the ability to blast straight through someone's guard and backfist them in the face has to count for something on the street ? It's all academic, and comes down to the man not the art, but CLF wouldnt have survived this long without building a reputation for effectiveness where it matters. We can kick the can re BJJ / MT / whatever till we run out of keystrokes, but ultimately its just you and someone who wants to seriously hurt you - no referee, medical staff or timekeeper. I dont have a dog in this fight - I've never set foot in a CLF kwoon - but if these guys are serious, conditioning their hands and forearms makes a lot of sense to me. Next time you're in a club, check out the watches / bracelets and rings worn by some of the other male patrons - I dont know why the bouncers let some of them in, but that's what many of these techniques are going to have to smash through on their way to their intended targets, and that means conditioning.
This is me in a nutshell. I train in Choy Li Fut because I love it, but training for compettion is something I am definitely not interested in. I've visited boxing gyms too, and I know for a fact a lot of them train for health, not getting in the ring in front of an audience.
You can always use palm strike, forearm, elbows